Podcast Title: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Episode: Hour 2: Peter's QB Tables
Release Date: August 13, 2025
Hosts: Don Hahn (ESPN New York), Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Introduction
In the second hour of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, the hosts delve into a heated debate surrounding their rankings of NFL quarterbacks. The discussion is sparked by a caller who introduces his own quarterback tables, challenging the hosts' perspectives and shaking up the conversation with bold assertions.
Quarterback Rankings Debate
Table 1: The Elite Quarterbacks
The focal point of the episode is the establishment and contention of "Table 1," which features quarterbacks deemed capable of single-handedly winning games. The caller presents his version of Table 1, listing Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson as the top four, with a notable exception.
Caller:
"[...] with one exception, every one of these guys can go out on his own and essentially win a game."
[00:27:57]
Don Hahn:
"You can't put Jaden Daniels on the top list. You can't do it."
[00:28:22]
The inclusion of Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts in Table 1 ignites a strong reaction from Don Hahn, who questions their placement based on consistency and performance metrics.
Don Hahn:
"I'm out. I can't be out."
[00:28:40]
Debating Jalen Hurts and Jaden Daniels
Don Hahn challenges the caller's decision to place Jalen Hurts alongside established stars like Mahomes and Allen, arguing that Hurts hasn't consistently demonstrated elite quarterback performance.
Don Hahn:
"He's not an elite quarterback. Well, no list has him in the top five."
[00:29:20]
The caller defends his stance by highlighting Hurts' achievements, including a Super Bowl MVP and significant contributions to his team's success, while also acknowledging the talent of Jaden Daniels.
Caller:
"Jaden Daniels has the ability to win every single game he plays, no matter who is on the field with him."
[00:30:21]
Don Hahn:
"At least admit he'd be the..."
[00:30:38]
The back-and-forth continues as Don Hahn emphasizes the importance of statistical performance and consistency, while the caller prioritizes game-winning capabilities and team impact.
Tables 2 and 3: Rising and Established Talents
The conversation shifts to Tables 2 and 3, where emerging quarterbacks like Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott are discussed alongside veterans like Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers. The caller argues for the inclusion of newer talents based on recent performances and potential growth.
Caller:
"Baker Mayfield's 41 touchdowns or whatever the hell the number is. It's insane."
[00:32:52]
Don Hahn counters by underscoring the need for sustained excellence and questioning the long-term viability of these quarterbacks in securing their positions.
Don Hahn:
"They are not going anywhere unless this situation gets resolved."
[00:03:14]
The debate highlights differing philosophies on quarterback evaluation—whether to prioritize current performance metrics or potential and leadership qualities.
Controversial Opinions and Host Reactions
Don Hahn's frustration becomes palpable as he grapples with defending his rankings against the caller's passionate arguments. The discussion underscores the subjective nature of sports rankings and the challenges in reconciling different evaluation criteria.
Don Hahn:
"Chris Russo meant every word that he said."
[00:19:42]
Caller:
"I love what you did with the list."
[00:36:10]
Wrapping Up the Rankings
As the episode progresses, the hosts and callers continue to dissect each quarterback's merits and shortcomings. The dynamic exchange offers listeners a comprehensive look into the complexities of sports analysis and the fervent opinions that drive passionate debates.
Don Hahn:
"I think Rogers deserves, I think you're probably right."
[00:37:12]
Caller:
"But Jalen Hurts is getting bonus points for being Super Bowl MVP and having that team where they are."
[00:48:43]
Conclusion
The second hour of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" showcases an intense and engaging discussion on NFL quarterback rankings. Through spirited dialogue and differing viewpoints, the episode offers listeners an in-depth exploration of what makes a quarterback elite, balancing statistical performance with leadership and game-winning abilities. The passionate exchanges between hosts and callers underscore the subjective nature of sports discussions, making for a compelling and thought-provoking listen.
Notable Quotes:
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Don Hahn:
"You can't put Jaden Daniels on the top list. You can't do it."
[00:28:22] -
Caller:
"Jaden Daniels has the ability to win every single game he plays, no matter who is on the field with him."
[00:30:21] -
Don Hahn:
"He's not an elite quarterback. Well, no list has him in the top five."
[00:29:20] -
Caller:
"Jalen Hurts is getting bonus points for being Super Bowl MVP and having that team where they are."
[00:48:43]
This episode provides a nuanced perspective on quarterback evaluations, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts seeking diverse opinions and in-depth analysis.