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York app, and your smart speakers, Don Hahn and Rosenberg. More Hahn and Rosenberg. Today, we hope that Don is enjoying his vacation.
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I don't. I don't. I hope he's miserable and can't wait to come back. Just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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It does feel like you, though.
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See what I mean? Like, that's not really me. I was just. I was.
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I know. I was jealous.
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That was performance. That was performance the other day.
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You would have really been upset, too.
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What's. What happened the other day?
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Well, the other day, you know what? Don and I were in, and Michael was in studio, and he had us with him on the show.
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That's great.
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So just the three of us hanging out. You should have seen Don. I mean, he was just full on.
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Like, was movement. You know what?
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I don't even think there was so much movement that we got to the point of. There's no more movement because we're just stuck in place.
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It's just. It's just full, like, not even half step. Full. Full staff.
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Oh, yeah. Soiled yourself.
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Yeah.
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The flag isn't at half max. It is. It is.
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Flag is up and. And just flopping in the wind in your pants.
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Oh, there's no flopping. You just got to pledge allegiance.
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I've been flapping.
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Yeah, more like flapping, flopping. Good time.
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Yeah. Full disclosure, I probably took that too far with the whole jealousy thing. I thought it'd be funny, but it ended up.
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But now you just seem like a legit weirdo. Yeah.
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Yeah. People actually took it, like, I really felt away.
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I know.
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So I just.
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You are a psycho in other ways that are very real.
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Yes, but not that.
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But not that one.
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No, I.
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By the way, I can point out to everybody the difference between.
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All right, what's my. What's my legit psycho?
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All right. Some legit Alan psycho.
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I have an intolerance for some Things, and I make it pretty well.
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Like, for example, he can get so annoyed by a bad Nick's phone call that he literally takes his headphones off and leans away from the mic like, I've given up. Which is bizarre for sports talk radio. You just. You don't see it every day. It's unique.
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Can I say that this past season was pretty. This past season was pretty different than we've had in the past. And I probably chalked that up to a high level of expectation, which. Which was certainly deserved and a lot of consternation because it wasn't look like the whole thing with me and how the Yankees. It just doesn't look right. There were a lot of fans who said, this doesn't look right, and they ended up being right. Which is why at the end of the season, when Thibodeau was fired, I gave that mea culpa. Like, you know what? I was wrong. You guys were right. What you saw, maybe I was too close to it, and I didn't see it the way you saw it. It didn't look right.
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You had to eat it.
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And now we're gonna find out this coming season.
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What else? Anthony, what's the other thing? I think he's legitimate, like, legitimately psycho about. I'm forgetting right now.
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The General Hospital thing. No, I was kidding about that. No, I was just trying to get a rise out of you guys. Serious. Seriously, I. I was. It was on the screen, and I was trying to get Don's. Like, I wanted to distract Don, so I was trying to get him to look. And when he did, he kept looking at me going, what? Like, he gave me the what? The hands up. Like, what? And that's why I just like stone cold Steve Austin.
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What?
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Yeah. So that's.
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That's what I'll. I'll remember. The audience probably knows. They've heard me say it. There are other things about you that are psycho. But we're gonna learn as. As time goes on, you're just more. You're just more insecure than anyone would believe, considering your look. So that. But that's funny.
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I don't see any of that.
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Once I started. Once I started feeling that you have insecurity, that was when I said this last week while you're gone. Oh, that's when I started realizing this show could be something special. Because. Because I'll be honest, the idea of having, like, a totally secure, handsome, successful. It's boring. Yeah. Because what made Michael. What makes Michael really a genius is everyone will crush him. Because like, when he gets into it with, with, with like, you know, people online or, you know it when it used, buddy, great life. When it used to be Mushnick or whoever and everyone big. Why is he so thin skinned? Why? It's so that. That stuff that he did, okay, was so realistic and like, so honest. It's what made him a fabulously intriguing talk.
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You mean it's, it's like the true him?
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Yeah, because most, most announcers, you know, when you see a Michael K in the booth for the Yankees or you see an Alan Hahn standing on the court on msg, you're getting such a polished, professional product and no one wants that for four hours a day from their talk show. That's why I think a lot of people can't do, you know, that's what you guys do.
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That, that's the hardest thing to do when you come into this, this realm from that because you're so used to the, hey, you know, be polished, be professional, be straight up.
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Yep.
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And a lot of guys who step right into radio right out of the gate and understand it, they know how to, you know, show all the different parts you and be vulnerable, but also be brash and not be afraid of confrontation. Like, don't, don't worry about looking bad. Don't worry about being wrong. All those things that you're told, like as a journalist, you're told, no, get your facts right and be right.
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Right.
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And that's it. Like that, like, that's all it's supposed to be. Not, you know, don't be afraid to, to give an opinion that might not be, might not have a lot of fact in it, but you just feel something and then you're gonna be wrong. Like what I was doing with the Yankees, that takes a while to break. Then when you start doing it and then people start like, you just did that saying, like, well, you're a lunatic. It's like, whoa. But I don't really want that out there.
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But it's a very, I will tell you, it's a very blurry line. And I, you know, I've been doing this now radio my entire life. That was always what I wanted to be. Like from the second I was in college, I was like, I'm going to be. I'm going to be the hip hop Howard Stern. Like, I say anything, I'll do it all. I live my. If it happens in my life, I say it on the radio.
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Okay?
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And for the most part, that's what I've done. Obviously, as I've gotten older. Some more serious things happen in life. And I don't believe in always taking everything, at least not in real time, to the air. It'll eventually always get to the air. It just may not be in real time.
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It takes time. Right.
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But I will say it is a really interesting line of like, oh, is that too vulnerable? Have I exposed myself? Like I talk about on my Onette podcast that I do with sypha sounds, I would say. And anyone listening out there knows, if you also listen to one amp, half of the show is me being open about, like, professional jealousy, frustration, anger, because it's relatable. But I also am. But then sometimes when I realize how well these people know me, they'll, like, say something in a comment. I'm like, oh, my God, I really do say everything.
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Yeah, you know that too. Yeah. I mean, I like, it's a tough balance. It is. And I believe. Did Howard Stern even said it took him a minute to figure that out. Right. Because in the beginning, he was just being a dj. And then one day he just snapped and said, the hell with this, and just started doing crazy, like, the crazy stuff that he thought, like, this is what I really want to do.
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But then, as you remember in the movie, he. There's that one powerful scene where, of course, he made light of his wife, his first wife, miscarrying.
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Yeah.
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And that's sort of the scene in the movie. And of course, Private Parts isn't, you know, it's not Citizen Kane, but it's a really good movie. So they don't, you know, they get through it relatively quickly. But it's an impactful part where he's like, oh, you do have to learn a line of where that is. And that's always one of the things I find interesting about Stern, this most recent iteration of Howard Stern, where he's really, you know, people, he's really cleaned up his reputation a lot of ways. People really call him one of the great interviewers. All kinds of stuff like that. He talks about his current wife, Beth. There's not much about his. Not often about his children, some. And his ex wife, never at all. It's like it didn't even happen. I just find that as from a radio guy standpoint, sort of fascinating. Although now as a divorce radio guy, I sort of understand. All right, so we did the tables while you were gone. And the tables are, you know, our version of quarterback tears.
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So the rankings of quarterbacks, starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
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And I'll give you my order, and we I just want to get your thoughts and listen. Please feel free to tear them apart, but also maybe you won't totally disagree.
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Is this in print form so I could follow along? Did you send this in an email?
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One of our crack staffers could hit print for you if they wanted to. Just.
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Just so I can follow along. Because once it's over with, you know, I have.
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It's. It's afforded.
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I forgot to take my Prevagen, if you know what I mean. Like, I. I just.
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Wait, what's Prevagen? You're a little older than me still.
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Prevagen is that that placebo pill that people believe helps your memory. And I. The joke is I forgot to take it because it's supposed to help you. Okay, thanks for making me explain that one.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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All right. So. So table. Table 1. I decided to spice things up this year.
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Okay.
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For the last couple of years, it's been, of course, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. I knew doing this, I would get roasted by some people. It seems like it's gotten probably a better reception than I expected.
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Okay.
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I have added, based on the fact that I believe he is the only other quarterback besides the four that I mentioned who could basically win a game by himself. I added Jaden Daniels. I do believe he is that dude.
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So. So give it to me. It's so Josh Allen, Patrick, Lamar Jackson, and Joe.
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And then I. And then I'm also adding, on account of, I'm sorry, three great win total seasons and a Super bowl mvp. I'm adding Jalen Hurts. Even if we don't. I don't think you and I feel as strongly about him as, say, Chris Candy does. I. I don't believe he has the arm talent of the other five guys I mentioned, but you got to give credit where credit is due for just simply winning repeatedly. And that's what Jalen Hurts has done. So I added Jalen Hurts, your Super bowl mvp, and Jaden Daniels to table one to join the big four from the afc. So we now have six quarterbacks that I'm putting in at table one.
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So six for. At a wedding table. That's a lot.
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Well, especially three couples.
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That's, you know, you're. You're going to do six to eight, I believe, at a wedding.
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No.
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Yeah.
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By the way, sometimes as many as 10.
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10. That's a big table.
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That's a big. Now table two, smaller, though.
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Okay.
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This might be a little cocktail table. You're eating some wieners together.
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Excuse me.
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Table 2. I have Justin Herbert. I have Baker Mayfield, who, I'm sorry, we just kind of can't keep denying when you're throwing up 40 touchdowns and going to the playoffs.
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Okay.
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A guy who I think is constantly disrespected. But again, I don't care if it's the weapons he has. Hey. Showing it year after year. High powered offense, Jared Goff. I'm putting him at table two. And then the other guy who, if he doesn't get it together this year, they don't do something. He might be sitting at table three. But I do think with the pieces there, he is good enough and deserves to be there. And that is Dak Prescott. I will put in the last chair at table two. Wow. Table three is bigger. Make some room. Clear out some space. We got C.J. stroud. We got Brock Purdy. We got Matt Stafford. Oh, did we move up Stafford. Anthony in the end or did I leave him?
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No, you moved up. Rogers. Two, three.
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Oh, God. Okay, thank you. We got Stafford.
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Stafford in his back. I think he's where he belongs now. Yeah.
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He can't be higher than 3.
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Stafford at one time was a table 1 guy, and then he even a table 2 guy as far as recent as last season. But right now, with the concerns about his back and his future, I think it's fair.
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The middle of the pack is, I think, fair.
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I think it's fair. Yeah.
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Even if we know he has. He has a way better track record than a lot of the people sitting around him.
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Sure.
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Including Trevor Lawrence, Jordan Love, who I think has a bit of a make or break season ahead of him.
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Interesting one there. Yeah.
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Caleb Williams.
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Whoa.
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Who I believe is on the rise.
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Okay.
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Young Bo Nix. Sam Darnold.
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Yep.
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His counter. His counterpart in Las Vegas, Geno Smith. And then lastly, I did agree to put personal bias aside after what happened here. And I kept Aaron Rodgers in the last seat at table three.
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Okay.
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All right. Because he did have great numbers last year, even though those of us who watch them know it's a little misleading because it never really felt great while it was going on. But you can't deny the fact at the end of the year, you look up, whatever it is, 3,900 yards.
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Yeah.
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It's hard to deny table four. And I get it. Talent wise, this guy could be as high as 2. But too much has gone on with Tua Tangovaloa. And that's why I have him in the best seat at table four. Joining him at that table is a wide variety. Justin Fields, Russell Wilson, Michael Penix Jr. Bryce Young, Kyler Murray and Drake May. Drake May sitting in the last seat at table four. We'll see what happens if he's sitting at any table next year. And then table five, where people are basically just drunk and laying face down on the table. The essential rookie. He's not, but he is J.J. mcCarthy. You have the actual rookie, Cam Ward, who have no body of work. And then you have. I guess now we have an answer. It used to say Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones. We now know it's Daniel Jones and.
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Then it's whoever the hell the Saints and Browns are going to throw out there on a given week. Right.
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We don't know Whoever wakes up from their pool of vomit from the Saints and Browns, that is the rounds out. Table 5.
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So you're still probably putting Flacco there anyway.
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Oh, yeah. No matter who that is, he's there.
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Table five doesn't matter. Out of those groups. Yeah, I mean that. All right, so I'm going to do some editing.
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I don't hear major. I'm not hearing any massive disagreement.
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I let you. I wasn't going to interrupt you.
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Wow.
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So I'm taking notes. That's why I asked for a printout, which I got, because you're professional. So I'm taking notes. And now, now I'll go through it with you and I'll tell you what, why I disagree with certain ones. So all Due respect, Table 1 is cut off at Jalen. Hurts as much as you love him after one season, it's too soon. Like, it's as if table one's the family. Right. And you're gonna let like a friend that you've known for a year sit with the family? We're not doing that. We know each other a year, not that long. Can't put you with people that are like, in my life that have proven to be loyal to me. Not yet. So maybe next year he'll earn his way to that table one, but right now he's got to be because table two has. Still has big value. Keep in mind, table one is table one, but table two is next to table one in the front. So table two is still a high value place to sit when it comes to quarterback tiers.
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So. So Jaden, you're putting now would you put Jaden at the first seat? Table two.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Seat one, Table two.
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Okay, listen, I'm not gonna go screaming. And I think, I think you and I are saying, you know, 50 cents one way, half a dollar the other, but yes, that's fine.
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I just feel like it's just important. I'm very big on delineating the importance of like. Like, I think elite is a word we throw around too much. Elite should be the best of the best of the best. It's platinum. You can't get a higher status.
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You got to blame Michael K for that. Why is that the whole Eli Manning elite.
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Oh, yeah. Well, but. But I. Anyways, so I would put Jaden Daniels with that table, too. So, you know, the whole who you taken out, in fact, table two. I'm not. Because I agree with you on Baker Mayfield. I think he actually has earned it. I think Dak Prescott, when he's healthy, is up there. Jared Goff, you're right. What he's done now, we'll see how he does what he does without Ben Johnson. That's going to really be something to watch now in Detroit for sure. But you can't argue with the last couple of years. And then Herbert, you know, we already know how good he is, but I'm adding a body. Oh, four is not enough at table two. Five, I should say, because of Jaden Daniels. We need an even number, so we're going to go to six.
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You had C.J.
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C.J. Stroud.
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All right. Again, not going to have a big C. Yeah.
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C.J. stroud belongs in table two. Okay. So there. Now we cut it off at that point.
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Back to back playoff appearances. Yes, he was down a peg last.
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Year, but CJ But a lot of that wasn't on him. A lot of that was on some injuries to his receivers and, you know, the league figures you out again. I don't. We'll see if Jaden learns this, but that's what I'm going to do there. So that's a good group. Now, the table three part, here's where I've got a lot of. There's a lot of red, red ink right now.
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Oh, no. It's a bloody mess.
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It's a bloody mess. All right, because first thing I'm going to do is, you know, it's always, who you taking out. Caleb Williams cannot sit at table three. He belongs in table four.
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Yeah. You know what? I don't hate this edit. I don't hate that edit.
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The next one that's out is Sam Dar Arnold, who, by the way, is listed as Sam Arnold, which is all I need to say about why he doesn't belong at this table.
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It's a great. By the way, he's. He's cooking. Let the man cook right now, all.
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Right, so he's got a. I do.
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You don't think Sam Darnold deserves to sit the bottom of table three?
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No, no. Because table four still has some good, good, good guys in it, and he could be the best of those. But I need to see more from him as well. All right, so table three. Brock Purdy. Yes. Stafford. As we already talked about, there was a time he was a table one guy. There was a time he was a table two guy even more recently than last year. But now with the back and he's getting older and you could just feel like the end is near. And I think he's. He's. He's a prominent member of table three. He's the guy everybody sits down and goes, oh, Matthew's here. Nice. I like this. You know what I mean? Like, it makes you feel better about the fact that you're not sitting at one of the front tables. But at least we got Stafford with us. Trevor Lawrence hanging on by a thread in table three right now. Jordan Love, prominent table three member who at one point was in consideration for Table 2. But I need another year. Bo Nix, very much. Table 3. I felt for you solid. Because not everybody is. Not everybody has Bo Nix in mind. And he could have a big year this year. They have a lot of belief in Denver and he has a big part of that. So if I'm taking out two, as I mentioned, and Gino. I'll give you Gino. It's almost like a lifetime achievement award for Gino. You can't make him any lower than table three. He's a vet. He's been around. He's done good things.
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No, he's been good enough.
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And Rogers, you know, again, you put Rogers there too, because he'll tell some good stories. You like having Roger, table three. So I took two out. It's all that. Who you taking out? Who you replace him with? 2, it belongs to table 3. 2, it belong. He's. That's why cannot overlook the fact that when healthy, he's really good.
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No, no, it's fine. I'm not going to fight you. But you understand what I'm saying? The lack of availability. Such a detractor.
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Your reasoning makes sense, right? Two is the guy that you're like, if I put him at table three and he doesn't come to the wedding, then I wasted a good seat at that table. I can never believe. I can't trust that he's going to be there. So that's what you're thinking, right? You have that friend of yours, the guest that you know is like the good guest but the guy's oh, the guy always says he's not sure if he can make it. So I don't want to waste a good seat at a good table but I think Tua deserves it. The other one is Kyler Murray. See Caleb Williams and Sam Darnold have to come out and the two that go in is Kyler Murray and Tua Tungaville. Kyler Murray's really good man and he had a good year last year. He's, you know, he early in his career a little bit of a knucklehead. There were some issues with him. He is kind of small but you can't argue with the numbers and the performance. Kyler Murray's really good. So Tua and Kyler Murray go to table three. Sam Darnold and Caleb Williams go to table four. And they join Justin Fields. Russell Wilson, boy, I'll tell you for Russell Wilson that's a real drop off. Part of me wants to put him at three.
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I know out of respect but do you really believe he's going to be there?
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But after what I saw in Pittsburgh, it's hard to say yes. Now that could change with the Giants. Pennix, boy, Pennix can almost go to five. Bryce Young could almost go to five. Drake May, by the way, I'm telling everybody this, he's a folk hero already in New England they love him and that's a guy to watch going forward. Man, they, there's a big belief going on in New England. They got their guy and he's the goods like as far as the personality. He's got to follow me smart like and Vrabel's a good coach. The Patriots are, they're going to be a team to watch this year and May is a story to watch as well so. But I like that as table four and then table five. We all know the way you described it is perfect. That is the table that nobody wants to go back there. Even the bride and groom won't go back to say thank you for coming. They're just like no, no, no, don't go back there.
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It's toxic back there, you know, or I was that. Or it's like one of the parents friends that neither person in the couple even knows. I mean these are just, they're like oh, mom invited her mahjong friends. I don't even know who these people are. But like I guess we gotta have.
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I like though I like better that it's like the couple that always fights. We do, you know, the other, the other couple, like, one's an alcoholic and then the other one, you know, like, they're all a mess. All of them are a mess. And, you know, just don't go back there. So that's that table. And it's, it's, you know, there's always the one like Cam Ward who's like, why am I at this table? I gotta get out of here. You know? And that's.
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And hopefully you will.
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Yeah. You never know. J.J. mcCarthy. Right. You'll get a couple that, you know, maybe in a year will get out of there. So you're not. You weren't too far off. I just had. I felt like adjusting a little. I think you do love your commies. So, Jaden Daniels, you wanted so badly to put them right up there in the front with you, but table two is still respect. Very respectful for where I think he is right now. And he's in very good company, so.
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And you would agree also, by the way, he turns in the same performance next year, or let's even call it slightly better. You put him at table one.
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Slightly better. I mean, yeah.
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Last year, Last year he didn't have a ton of passing yardage. And his number, his TDs, throwing. TDs could have been up. That's what Don kept being on. But I kept pointing out to Don was. I'm like, don, he rushed for 900 yards.
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I don't care. I think, to me, I think we overstate the quarterback who threw how many total touchdowns. It's like I always say, what's your Touchdowns vs. Turnovers, meaning fumbles and interceptions and touchdowns total, meaning ones you rushed for and once you threw for. And I don't care. You're like, well, it's not fair because Hertz, they do the tush push at the one. That's a cheap touchdown. I don't care. It's still a touchdown.
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You got to count it.
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It still counts. So I want to know your total touchdowns rushing and passing versus your total turnovers, which is fumbles lost and interception.
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He had 31 touchdowns total to Jaden.
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Okay.
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He had five inner. Sorry.
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Nine interceptions and he. Fumbles lost.
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And how many fumbles lost did my guy have? Where do I have. Where do I find that again?
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The fl.
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I think I know, but it's not in the specific. Here it is. It's not in the.
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Okay, there it is.
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Five. Is that right?
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14. So 14 total turnovers.
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Yeah. To 31 scores. Yeah, that's a plus. 17.
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That's again, I mean that's all I'm looking for. That kind of, that, that is the balance that you're looking for is twice as many. More than twice as many. That's a pretty good year.
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If a rookie.
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I'll take it. Pretty good year. So, yeah, good tables. I like it.
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I think we, I like the work that's that we've put in here as.
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A family, made an effort and now we'll have a good wedding. Think about it once tables are better than tears. I agree. So much better.
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Give me a little flexibility, you know what I mean? And let's, let's, let's have a conversation.
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Right.
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Speaking of which, I'm downright, I'm downright, I don't even want to say it. Borderline visibly excited about the list that Allen has promised next. All right. He is going to bring it. The songs of summer.
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It is the songs. This is from the last 25 years because we said there's no song of the summer this year. This was something my buddy Ben pointed out during my hanging out at the lake. Just, you know, having a few, sitting on the, the pontoon out on the lake, sun's going down, we're playing music and he's like, what's the song this summer? We couldn't figure it out and we've learned there is not one this year. And so I was like, I wonder, you know, like, was there always a song this summer? And I went back just the last 25 years, let's be Current and Billboard, I use them as the basis and I discovered okay there every year there certainly was. And so I said, well, what were the, the best, the most, the most successful songs of the summer. So the top five according to Billboard in the last 25 years.
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And if you want to weigh in with just your all time songs of summer, whatever they may be, bring it on. And also guys, let me let you know that Rascal Flats Life Is a Highway tour is coming to UBS arena on the 29th of January and the Prudential center on January 30th. Allen's going to both. He wants the country one night, the western the next night. That's how we do it. ESPN New York has your chance to score tickets to the venue of your choice on the ESPN New York app. You just got to scroll down to contest. Submit your entry. It's all brought to you by Live Nation. Tickets go on sale this Friday at 10am@ticketmaster.com the list is next and we'll talk to you as well right here on Don Hanna Rosenberg More Mazda buyers choose Ramsey Mazda during the Mazda More to move you sales event. Get 1.9% financing on a new 2025 Mazda CX50 no payments for 90 days or lease for $239 for 33 months. Start shopping now at Ramsey Mazda.com, choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda 833-853-2970 for lease details Vin SN 319033 MSRP32785 0 Security Deposit APR $17.48 per 1000 Finance ends 9225 this is an ad by BetterHelp these days it feels like there's a vice for everything. Cold plunges, gratitude journals, screen detoxes. But how do you know what actually works for you? With the Internet and information overload about mental health and wellness, it can be a struggle to know what's true and what actions to take. These days, using trusted resources and talking to live therapists can get you personalized recommendations and help to help you break through the noise. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. And it works with an App store rating of 4.4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews. As the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Talk it out with BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com timeout. That's betterhelp.com timeout.
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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
B
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. You just made the list, buddy. This is the list with Don, Han and Rosenberg. All right, so Don legreca normally does this. So I will say full disclosure, I am a little bit. I'm a little tight. I gotta be honest.
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All right. Why?
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Well, because this is, this is Don's and I don't want to ruin it. I don't want to mess it up. I want to get it right. I put in the research, I put in some work. I just like, I'm, I'm just feeling like, you know, I'm like a little, I'm nervous, anxious, all those things because Don does these very well and we always talk them out. So as I mentioned earlier, we spent some time you And I did earlier this week, discussing the. What's this year's Song of the Summer? People called in. What we learned from the calls is that there were so many different offerings that it suggests there isn't one. And so I was curious enough to go and say, well, what were the songs like? Did we always have one? Or. We just think we do. For the majority of the last 70 years of music, we have had a song of the summer that. And when I say song of the summer, it's the song that was number one for the majority of the summer. So. So six or more weeks. And some of them, when you see the title, you're like, oh, my God. Yeah, that's an earworm. It just gets stuck in your head. These are songs you don't necessarily have to love. Now, everybody. You personally. But you can't deny that when you hear it, you know? Right? Oh, yeah, I know that song. Everybody knows these songs because they played so much in the summer. They're mostly pop songs.
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All right?
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So just understand that. And the statistics tell me these are the best. I couldn't go all the way back to the 50s because it just would have been too much. So I decided, let's stay current.
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All right?
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Because you know me, if I picked my favorite songs of the summer, It'd be all 80s and 90s music. And that's. Yeah, exactly. And nobody, God Only Knows, might have been on that, too, by the way.
B
Great point. That'd be a good choice. What was. What was the concert we make fun of you for going to.
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I don't know.
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Remember, we have the great.
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Oh, the Counting Crows. Counting Crows at Jones Beach.
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Drunk in the Rain. The Counting Crows. Exactly.
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I had a great time. All right, so just. Just. With no further ado, I want to just point out again, we use Billboard as the basis to select songs. They ranked the top five most popular in the summer of each year. And it's all based on, like, you know, how long at number one and all that stuff. So I decided to cut it off at May. If the song was released in May, so it debuts on the chart in May, it counts as a summer song. So before that, no. So we have some songs from April that might have been number one through the summer, but I can't, because you can't count everything. So let's begin with number five on this list of the top summer songs of the 2000s.
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All right, here we go.
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Now, this is drake. This is 2018 summer. This spent 10 weeks at number one, and it debuted in July. And you know it in my feelings Now. Everybody knows this song. This is an earworm. And everybody knows the line. Yeah, just. You just heard it the. Kiki. Yeah. You love me.
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Man. It's been a long time, though. It's so funny. Drake has these hits that are such monsters that for some reason, and I don't know, maybe people will disagree, but I feel strongly about this. Not all of them, but some of them, they all of a sudden, when you hear them again, they sound a hundred years old. I feel like I haven't heard that. I feel I haven't heard Kiki, do you love me in a million years? Jacob, do you disagree, or is it an age thing? You feel like it's right there.
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You used to hear it all the time. No, I agree with you. And I was telling Alan, I was like, this is one of the songs. I was like, it gets stuck in your head, but I absolutely hate it. Yeah, it does, but it does. You'll walk away later. Like, I. Actually, Jake and I were doing this before the show, then we went over to our kitchen area to get a drink, and I heard him. I forget which song it was you were singing. Right. But it was stuck in your head. It might have been either Blurred Lines or. Yeah, it might have been. Well, speaking of blurred lines. And by the way, this is the list driven by Ramsey Mazda. So the fourth most popular song. So again, In My Feelings by Drake in 2018, spent 10 weeks at number one starting in July. Clearly song of the summer. Number four. This was from 2013. This spent 12 weeks at number one starting in June. So that's a true song of the summer if it starts in June.
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Oh, yeah.
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And this is now gonna get stuck in Jake's head again. Robin Thicke, T.I. burrell. It's a great song. You don't like it at all, do you?
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No, I like Floodlights. I actually think it was. I thought the lawsuit was unfair.
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Oh, yes.
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Even though I do think it's clearly influenced by Got to Give It Up, Part 2 by Marvin Gaye. Hear the influence. I thought the lawsuit was a bit unfair. I love Robin Thicke. He's a great dude. The video was obviously. The video birthed Emily Ratajkowski.
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I did not know that.
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It was a topless Emily Ratajkowski, I believe.
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Well, that'll do it.
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That. That set that video on fire and set her career on fire.
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Robin Thicke had another song that I loved. That it. The video of him riding a bike in New York City.
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Well, his other biggest song besides that is probably lost without you.
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No, it wasn't that song. It was another kind of. It used Beethoven. Was it a. When I get you alone. Yes, when I get you alone. I love that song.
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Is it. Is that from then?
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I love that song. It might have been older. It's like from 2002. Yeah, it's old.
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Way older.
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But that's just one of the. That's, like, when I. If you're going to ask me, like, what song by him, I like, that's the one. Okay, moving on. I don't know why I shared that. I just felt like it.
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Thank you for sharing.
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You know what I mean? All right, so number three now, biggest summer songs of the 2000s is one that debuted in 2009, spent 14 weeks at number one starting in July of 2009. And this band was hot this summer.
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Oh, man.
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I mean, did anyone. Did they. They just blew up. Black Eyed Peas. This is.
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This is a tough time for me.
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This one gets stuck in your head too, doesn't it? We decided to go with the long intro or.
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Or the instrumental, which would be even stranger of Jacob. Jacob been. Long intro or instrumental?
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Long intro. Yeah, that would have been worse.
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Here we go. Here we go.
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But come on. Like, this is. This is a great party song. It's a great summer song. You put this on, everybody's getting happy, right?
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You can't. You can't deny it.
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I know you probably think this is very cheese.
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Oh, yeah, it is.
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But it, you know, like, this is a feel good kind of summary song, right?
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Oh, yeah.
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There's a big party song with the bass drops. Forget.
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You can't. You can't. Listen, it's. It's a forever wedding banger, right? There's no question. It might annoy me. Black Eyed Peas do annoy me a bit, but they can't. Come on. What can you do? This is smash. It.
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It's fun. It's fun. This was a smash hit. I consider this to be a real big time earworm song, and it just gets stuck in your head. And for a lot of us gringos like me, you know one word and it doesn't matter. It's the only word you need to know. And every time they sing it, you sing it, and then you just go. Because you don't know the rest of it. So this hit the charts in 2017, in May, spent a whopping 16 weeks at number one, so basically dominated the entire summer. And whenever I go to Besito in Huntington, I sing it. Justin Bieber in This too. Exactly, exactly. But it's such a feel good song, isn't it? Although I, I don't know what it's about. Jay, can you help me? What's it about?
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Does Jake speak Spanish?
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I'll let him reveal. Yeah, I'm, I'm like half in, half out. It's a great song. It really is a great song. But imagine that, 16 weeks, that's the whole summer. Yeah, but it's a, it's a song that. What it's a song about, you know, doing to do with your lady.
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Was that what it's about? Mm.
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Okay. And that's a problem.
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I just, I didn't know what it was about. Okay, so.
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So that was number two, believe it or not, in the last 25 years. So that means there's only one song that could be number one. Well, there's a lot that you think could be number one. This surprised me, but didn't surprise me. This song, in just last summer, spent the most time in the summer at number one.
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All right.
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Released in July. So it spent most of the summer then well into the fall. 19 weeks at number one.
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He's like Casey Case from this guy.
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I, I, I. I'm in this one.
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It's been 19 weeks at the top of the chart.
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This one goes out. I'm stalling because the minute I play it, everybody is going to roll their eyes and throw up. You ready? The number one song of the summer in the 2000s so far, Shaboozi. I don't know how people just love this song. Apparently. I couldn't believe it was only a year ago we had a song of the summer of all time in this century. How do you feel about it?
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My feelings on this song are immensely complicated. Yeah, same like it's repulsive. The idea, as if at the time, my. With my underground hip hop leanings. There's no way to describe how much I hated Jaquan Tipsy at the time. Now, in retrospect, Tipsy is a pretty great fun song. Of course, I was being a hater.
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And come on, Everybody in the club getting tips. That was more that, that was way more fun.
B
That's a, it's a fun song. But. But the idea that you could tell me in 2025, tipsy is coming back as a country song. I would have said, well, and what? And the world is also on fire, by the way. I might have been right. It might have actually.
A
Wait, hold on.
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It actually makes perfect sense. It is a song for right now, the country Tipsy Is exactly where we are.
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Is it not outrageous, though, that as we were wondering what the song of the summer was here, that there was only the biggest one of the. Of the 2000s. Just was last year. 19 weeks. What is wrong with our.
B
Wait, that's the biggest since 2000.
A
Yes. Of a song that was released in May or later or in the summer, it had the most weeks consecutive at number one. I looked every. I went to Crazy in Love. I'm looking at songs like. Wait a minute. I'll give you a couple of songs that you thought might have been on the list. Like this one, right. 2023. That was Taylor Swift. That was the summer of Taylor. Everybody was going to see her show. Right.
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I don't know this record like that, though.
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Well, I'll tell you what it only spent. It was only number one for seven weeks. Is Devin William the Taverny G. Okay, how about this one? All right, this was. This was a song of the summer, wasn't it? This was a power song. 2003. And how many released in July?
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Okay. And how many weeks at the top?
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8.
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Wow. It's crazy that Tipsy crushed.
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Thank you.
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Crazy in Love.
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Like, there was, like, there had been much better music than this song at that time. Hard to believe. Okay, now you and I both have an appreciation for this artist, Harry styles. This is 2022. 15 weeks. But you know what? It was released in April, so it didn't count. It's a great song. Dominated the summer that year.
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Way better than Tipsy.
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Way better than Tipsy. And then last but not least, I.
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Like Shaboozi, by the way. He seems like a cool dude.
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Oh, he definitely seems cool. But the song is cheese. All right, anyways, speaking of country and, you know, the mix and all that stuff, this also was one that felt like a song of the summer. 19 weeks at number one, but released in April, so I couldn't count it. I mean, remember how this song wouldn't go away?
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Oh, do I ever. It never ended.
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19 weeks. What is wrong with us as a society? This is the best we could do in the summer.
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Horse.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently, as a country, we suck at songs of the summer.
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Well, I mean, listen, popular. This is why, you know, Don and I, for example, have a tendency to get snobby about pop songs because, you know, as much as we can all enjoy some pop music, when you find the stuff that really lives at the top, some of it is just.
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It's amazing.
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You're like, wow.
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So I only did. Yeah. And you're right and I agree. But I did. Instead of the songs that I felt like, I said, no, let me call out society because people were calling in on Monday and giving us different songs. And I thought, let's, let's hold the mirror up to America and say this. This is what you people love. This is what you love. And that's the list.
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Well done. I love the work that you did there.
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It was an effort. I'm sorry.
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No, you really did. I thoroughly enjoyed this.
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Well, if you agree, disagree, or have any other songs that you suggest, 800-919-3776. Of course we can always debate and consider. I can tell you if any of your songs that you suggest or say, wait, that was a big song. I can tell you statistically where that song ranks. The list was driven by Ramsey Mazda. It's the experience of driving a new Mazda and buying a new Mazda from Ramsey Mazda. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Checking off the boxes on your to do list is a great feeling. And when it comes to checking off coverage, a State Farm agent can help you choose an option that's right for you. Whether you prefer talking in person on the phone or using the award winning.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. I love that as an intro. I know you like that, Peter. I know it's I know it's old, but still A Fifth of Beethoven. You've heard. I mean, I know your dad knows that song.
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A Fifth of Beethoven.
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Yeah, that's what this is. Sampled. A Fifth of Beethoven was like a Beethoven dance music thing from the 70s that. This is sampled in this song.
B
Oh, yeah.
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It'S fantastic. Anyways, that's a pop song, right? Yes. No.
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Yeah, this is by the original one, Walter Murphy and the Big Apple Band.
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Yeah, there you go.
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Right, that one.
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That's really good. Very 70s sounding with obviously the Beethoven twist.
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You're using the word good again, I think a little loosely.
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Yeah. You really, you. I love when you go snob. When you go snob, like, with music, I actually respect it.
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Well, I'm not, like, I'm real. I really do have plenty of, like, quote, unquote, guilty pleasures. Like, I'm down. I really am.
A
Too many guilty pleasures. That's my problem.
B
Yeah, you're all guilty.
A
I'm really bad.
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Don't even feel guilty anymore. You're gonna be beating yourself up all day long.
A
I'm old. This happens when you get old, is that there's just a lot of music you've heard in your life. You know what I mean?
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Let's. Let's talk to the people. Wow.
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I didn't realize we'd get this big of a reaction, but let's do it.
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Yeah. People. People want to weigh in. We got calls on foosball, but first, let's hit the list. And then the top of the hour, I think. Five o'. Clock. Allen, we talked to all these people about the football.
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Yes.
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Talk some expectations. Giants and jets and whatnot, we will get. Danny from Long Island's been on the. On hold for a minute. We love you, Danny. We'll get to you in a minute about the QB tables, but let's go to. Let's start actually with Steve, though, in Middle Village, who wants to weigh in on songs of the summer? Steve, what do you got? I'm gonna be the old person. Because the way you did that. I think I did a sample tape years ago of summer songs, but again, I'm 72 years old, but I'm just gonna read to you from Billboard the top summer songs. Just one for each year from 1960 on. See if anybody, if you recognize the people. I thought that there would be a lot of beach songs on, but I guess I'm being too literal. The number two song in 1960 was Elvis Presley, it's now or Never, which was Based on Osolo Mio 61 Tossing and turning by Bobby Lewis. 1962. I'm not going to do.
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We can't do Ray Charles. Yeah. We can't do every year.
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Yeah. But I mean, I think the biggest year, and I think the most appropriate. One of the most appropriate to them, the rolling stones in 1965. I can't get the Satisfaction.
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Yep.
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And then Light my fire in 1967 with the Doors.
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That's a good one.
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Exactly. Thank you, buddy. Thank you for taking the call. I appreciate it.
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Good stuff, Steve.
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Listen, these are great songs, Steve. There's no question about it.
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I was worried that we were gonna do, like, you know, 70 years straight of just the number one song.
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And then in 1964, the Beatles return to the top. Let's go to Garrett, New Jersey. What do you want to say, Garrett? Listen, Don's not there. I got to tell you, that list stinks. That's a terrible list.
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You know what, Garrett? It's not my list. It's.
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What facts.
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It's the. It's a factual list based on how many weeks at number one. That's what's scary. You're right. The list sucks.
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I mean, it didn't suck it. I agree with Garrett that Don't.
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Oh, yeah. Don would hate it because it's. It's. None of us. Like, this is not our music. But this is a mirror. Don't.
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Don't back down, Alan. Don't back down. Name the songs again real quick. Hold on, Garrett. Alan, name the songs on your. On the five.
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Well, five through. All right. See My Feelings. Drake, Blurred Lines.
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You don't. You don't hate? In my feelings, I don't hate it.
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But it's not like I'm not listening to it. It's not. I don't have it on any of my.
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Blurred lines.
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Blurred lines. I like it. I like it. I got a feeling I can't listen to it anymore.
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But.
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No, but Despacito. I like. You like Despacito, but it's not something I'll always go to. And then the Shaboozi Bar song, like, I'm good.
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Yeah, it is, mostly so.
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But it's a. It's a mirror of our society.
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That's right.
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This is what people like.
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This is you, Garrett. This is what your people love. This is what I gotta say. A majority of the people in this country have a very bad taste in music. You're not wrong. Not wrong.
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He's not wrong. But it's. It's. It's kind of scary, isn't. Really? Is like you don't realize this is pop music. This is what's selling. This is what's number one. This is what's making money. Those songs in the last 25 years, the most of a summer now, not all time. Because we know, right, that there are summer. The top five of the last 25 years is much different list. I was just saying song of the summer because we don't have one this year. And it's rare to not have the hit of the summer. We don't have it and we're in August now.
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Now, to be fair, there is great music that comes out. None of it seemed to really be on that list. But I'm very excited. I will tell you, if you're a hip hop fan, you're listening. If you're a fan of the true school, as they say, that Ghostface is dropping Supreme Clientele 2 on Friday. And I've heard it, and it is, it is just an absolute hammer. You're gonna love it. So please just don't sleep on the fact that some of the artists we all love are still putting out music.
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Right?
B
But I think what happens is, Alan, so many people get caught up with their life and listening to their kids. You know, they're so busy listening to like Ms. Rachel or. Or Bluey in the background of the car every day.
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That's your life.
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That they don't realize that the stuff's actually happening. But great music is coming out.
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Agree. Thanks for listening to the Don, Han and Rosenberg podcast.
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I don't want to know how the.
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This episode centers on two main themes:
Listeners are treated to insight, debate, playful ribbing, and a blend of sports and pop culture nostalgia with the hosts’ characteristic New York humor and candor.
Don La Greca is on vacation; Alan and Peter banter about missing him (00:52–02:11), mock-jealousy, and their own idiosyncrasies in radio.
Radio vs. TV Authenticity:
Peter presents his NFL quarterback “tables”—a reimagining of the typical “QB tiers” into wedding table seating assignments (a funny, relatable metaphor). Alan pushes back and offers adjustments, sparking debate over where key quarterbacks belong.
Table 1 — The Elite Six:
Table 2 — Next Best:
Table 3 — Solid, but not Elite:
Table 4 — Question Marks/Potential:
Table 5 — Unproven/On Thin Ice:
Premise: Alan explores if there was a clear “song of the summer” in 2025 (there wasn’t), and runs back the five biggest Billboard hit “Songs of the Summer” over the last 25 years, using weeks at #1 as his yardstick.
Shaboozey – “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” (2024)
Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee ft. Justin Bieber – “Despacito” (2017)
Black Eyed Peas – “I Gotta Feeling” (2009)
Robin Thicke ft. T.I. & Pharrell – “Blurred Lines” (2013)
Drake – “In My Feelings” (2018)
Alan: “Apparently, as a country, we suck at songs of the summer.” (44:02)
Both hosts mused with some dismay at what dominates the charts vs. actual musical quality:
There’s an open, friendly challenge for listeners to call in with their own nominees and nostalgia from previous eras (48:17–51:59).
Numerous callers react to the “Songs of Summer” list, mostly critiquing “the list sucks!” (50:00). The hosts clarify that the list is factual, not their personal choice, and empathize with listeners’ sense that recent summer hits have been culturally “meh.”
The episode is rich in New York sports talk banter, and self-deprecating humor:
This episode is a quintessential “Don, Hahn & Rosenberg” blend of sports debate, authentic and revealing personality, and pop culture commentary — from deep cuts on the emotional demands of sports radio to playful arguments about quarterback hierarchies and cultural taste in music. Whether you’re seeking NFL hot takes or a side of nostalgia and musical crankiness, it’s all here, seasoned with New York authenticity.
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If you missed this one, you’ll come away knowing exactly how the hosts feel about both quarterback stardom and pop radio, and you’ll be ready to argue your own “tables” or “song of the summer” contenders.