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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Hour 2: Phillips' Comments & Fraud Alert Friday
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Don LaGreca
We heard you.
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Peter Rosenberg
Nine years of bring back the snack.
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Caller
Wrap and you've won.
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Peter Rosenberg
But maybe you should have asked for more.
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Don LaGreca
Say hello to the Hot Honey Snack Wrap.
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Peter Rosenberg
Now you've really won. Go to McDonald's and get it while you can.
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Alan Hahn
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Don LaGreca
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Alan Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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Don LaGreca
Game time is brought to you by Tullimardu Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time, it's to time. You bet. Knicks visit the Pistons coverage immediately following us right here on 880 at 7 and St. John's host Yukon MSG with coverage on 1050 starting at 7:40.
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Alan Hahn
Big game, Don Hugh.
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Don LaGreca
Big game. I'm surprised we're not.
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Alan Hahn
How are we not even there in the breezeway?
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Peter Rosenberg
What a bad job.
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Alan Hahn
We should be on the court.
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Don LaGreca
Right? I don't know what we were thinking. Or do. The original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Iris whiskey. Be sure to grab a Telemore Dew or try the new Telemore Dew. Honey, during today's action, glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. I'm not sure if you heard any of this Harrison Phillips audio.
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Alan Hahn
Before we do that, Don, can I do a little Giant thing that we have not mentioned yet? Just quickly.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, please, please.
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Alan Hahn
And then we get into the Jet stuff.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
Because I found this to be interesting.
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Don LaGreca
Go ahead.
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Alan Hahn
Greg Roman is actually going to join the Giants coaching staff. Even though he didn't get the OC job. He's going to work with Matt Nagy. Does that, does that help at all? Does that make you feel better having veteran experienced coaches on the offensive side of the ball?
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Don LaGreca
I never felt bad about Nagy, but.
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Alan Hahn
Why a lot of people did, you know, there was a lot of. I didn't understand it. Yeah, I guess that's what it was. Right. But now you got two really like these are two experienced guys on that side.
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Don LaGreca
You know, I heard the promo that Bart had about Barton Carlin about that he thinks that the hiring of Reich was better than Nagy. But it wasn't like they chose. The Giants chose who they wanted to choose. Right?
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
Like Harbaugh got a guy that he wanted. I mean, I guess he could have made an offer to Frank Reich. He didn't, you know, so I don't think the Giants felt like they lost out and the jets got their guy. So I will find out who's better and all that at the End of the day, I think the Giants have a better chance to be successful. They've got a quarterback and the jets don't. But I think both hires are good. So I didn't feel bad, bad about the Giants hire, but why would. Why would this bother me? The more the merrier, right? Get as many minds in there as possible.
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Alan Hahn
I like seeing, to me, I go, I love experienced coaching staffs. I think there's something there. It's better for your team to have experienced coaches. They always use the word teachers in the NFL. It's great. I love when they. They always talk about, you know, I have a staff full of teachers. But I do think having experience, especially with a young group and that offense, that, that giant offense is young. Young quarterback, young running back, young wide receiver. Right?
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
I do think there's something to be said about having experienced guys with that kind of a group instead of, you know, younger coaches who aren't as experienced. It's a lot harder. It does work at sometimes, but I just feel like in the Giant situation, having that kind of experience in the house is very important.
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Don LaGreca
It is not going to hurt at all. So I like it. But again, I didn't feel nervous about it to begin with. So I think that's a good hire and I think the jets made a good hire and we'll see how it all shakes out. Now on the roundtable, I guess it's the roundtable podcast. Anthony or Harrison Phillips. Jet became a Jet last year. Had some interesting things to say about the team that he plays for. He said the jets have major problems.
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Harrison Phillips
I haven't played for forever, but I've played for a handful of years now and understand that somehow, some way culture matters. And you can't put five wins, 10 wins, three wins, whatever it is that doing it with people that you care about, it helps correlate to winning games. And so if I a connected football team, I would take that over a talented football team that wasn't connected. I think AG inherited a very cancerous, truculent group, top to bottom. It's not individual people's fault. I was there for one season. It was a very difficult season. And I almost wanted to waver on some of my thoughts and my beliefs and my optimism. And so I can't imagine being there for year after year after year after year and not seeing the results that you wanted. It tainted people because my coach is going to get fired, my teammate's going to get fired. I'm going to be a free agent. I might get fired. I got to play for me, I got to make sure that my tape's hot regardless of what the system is asking me to do, schemes telling me to do. And then young players come in and see, oh, that's my vet. And that's how they're acting. So I'm going to act like that too. And so it's, it's a, it's a long chain of things and it can't be fixed like that. I think AG's mindset of any coach I've been around to deal what we had to deal with this season, to be as consistent as he was to us through that whole thing was super cool to see. And I think that consistency making the jump from year one to year two as a head football coach, more of his people in the building, more of his thumbprint on the culture, I think we have to win more games.
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Alan Hahn
Wow. I'll tell you what, he used a big word there. Truculent.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
You know what he's telling us that that group of players wasn't really taking coaching well.
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Don LaGreca
No.
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Alan Hahn
Always quick to like that. That says a lot about the type of players they had in the room, more than it did about the coaches. It's almost like what, what he's saying he saw is coaches trying and players like this guy. I'm. I don't need to do that. I don't have to do that. Like, there's a lot of, there was a lot of opposition to things that was being presented to the players. And that tells me, I gotta get guys out of here. I got the wrong people.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
They were not receptive to coaching.
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Don LaGreca
And I think, you know, he had other quotes too here about, you know, cancerous idea that there's a cancerous thought to have. Because that's what happens when you join a team where the narrative is they're gonna screw it up. And the second something goes bad, it's almost like a script. All right, this is what's supposed to happen. The veterans roll their eyes like, you know, typical Jets. This is what we go through. You know, it's the same thing the Red Sox went through before they slayed the dragon, that we never win the big one. We're going to choke against the Yankees. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Right. We're never going to win here. So you sign with the jets, you think you're going to change it, and the second you get kicked in the gut, there's no getting up because join the long list of other teams and coaches and general managers that have Failed here. So the biggest thing to do is change that narrative. When they talk about changing culture, guys, that's what they're talking about. All right? It's not some rah rah speech. It's making sure that you get the right players to understand it's different here. Now we're going to get up, we're going to have our challenges, but we're going to be fine. And that becomes the biggest problem. That's what I think. Aaron Glenn didn't understand when he took the job. He thought the big talk and you know, all that was going to change everything. No, it takes a while. Like. Well, it really does take to be able to change 50 years of losing. Is it going to happen overnight?
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Alan Hahn
Well, it's 15 years of losing, let's be honest.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
But I'm just, I know what you're saying.
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Don LaGreca
Same old jets is something that's gone on a lot longer than 15 years.
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Alan Hahn
Oh, there's no question. Same old jets has gone on since the mud bowl.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
But I think what, what you're, what Aaron Glenn probably didn't realize is he didn't have the cachet to walk in and say, trust me, follow me, I know what I'm doing. And the guys are like, no. Like John Harbaugh is going to walk into the Giants meeting room and every player is going to go, I know that guy's resume. Whatever he says, I'm doing it. It's a lot different. That's why I've always said you can't keep hiring these first time coaches in New York. But again, what Phillips said now Brian Costello of the Post caught up with Phillips as well, who must be doing the rounds at Radio Row. And he just said to clarify everything he said because truculent is a, that's a strong word to use about your.
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Peter Rosenberg
Teammates and an impressive word.
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Alan Hahn
Well, very good word. Yeah. That is a strange poll, but a good one. He said that he made, he wanted is what Costello said. Phillips wanted to make clear he was saying the mindset of same old jets is what's cancerous, not the players. He said he wasn't trying to point out anybody individually. He said he felt when the jets started to lose, they slipped right into that same old jets sensation. Like you're saying Don. And the quote that Phillips gave to Costello is that's a cancerous thought to have. And that goes right with losing franchises. No matter if like some guys will say, well, that's not my history. So I don't feel that way. No. But once it Starts happening. You look at the jersey, you look at the logo, and you go, oh, that's how it is around here, I guess. It's hard to break. It's hard to break. And it took, you know, like, I think Jalen Brunson's the guy that came into the Knicks, put on the jersey, and he looked at, like, things that happened and why they lose. And he's the one that's like, no, no, that's not happening. Like I told you that night, Wednesday, Jamal Murray's trying to take over the Garden, and he's like, nope. Like, I'm not letting that happen. Because he's aware of it. That's. You need special people to break that, Don. It's hard to find those guys.
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Don LaGreca
And the young guys look at the veterans, and the veterans are rolling their eyes like, here we go again. It just takes time. And I think Glenn came in with the right attitude, but I think he realized more than anything else, it's gonna take a lot to change. Not going to change overnight. Just looking at the last 15 years, how many coaches, how many general managers. Aaron Rodgers couldn't change it, right? Rex Ryan tried, came close. Bill Parcells tried and came close. Like the history, it's. There's a. Because there's so. There's so many famous people that are Jet fans. It's become part of the culture where negative jets gets dropped in Curb youb Enthusiasm. It gets dropped in Adam Sandler movies, right? You can't hide from the fact that the jets are a punchline. And that doesn't change with one winning season or one coaching change or one great signing or trade. It comes with consistently winning and getting over it and bring. Making sure you're bringing in the right players that are ready for the long haul, that are going to fall on their face and get back up and try again and not say, same old Jets. It's hard to do, man. It's really hard. And I wish him luck. But it's not going to take one speech, one press conference, one upset win. It's going to take a lot, but it's going to be able to turn this around.
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Alan Hahn
It's going to take somebody. It's going to take a player like Schaefer going to the Islanders and the players just going, whoa, we got a guy. And everybody else kind of all of a sudden just kind of raises up like, whoa, we got a guy. We can do something. I think that's important. It's the same thing as. I mean, it's a smaller thing, but Like Scatter Boo injected a little bit of life and belief. You know what I mean? Like it did the sideline when Dart went into the game. I've talked about this. Dart checks in for the first time. The sideline was different. Right. Like, I just think for the jets, they haven't had that guy Rogers was supposed to be and then his Achilles.
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Don LaGreca
And he just got hurt.
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Alan Hahn
I think Rogers, he had guys leaning forward for a while, but then he got hurt. The jets haven't had a. That guy since when. Like, what's the last time they had somebody where the whole like it was Rex might have been the last time they had somebody there, but it was leaning forward and believed in it.
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Peter Rosenberg
But even when they had great players on that team, even when they had, you know, Revis and Cromartie and players you could, you could respect.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
I mean, even a Thomas Jones. Right. That, that, that team in the mid teens, they had good, legitimate players. But yes, they haven't had that, that spark like Reavis, one of the greatest of all time. He's not a spark to a team. That's not what he is.
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Alan Hahn
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's a shutdown. He does what he does.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
They. They have not. You're right. And. And Rodgers was the guy it could have been the injury happens and then he never got quite back to that. He didn't gel with their best receiver. It just never quite happened.
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Alan Hahn
Never.
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Don LaGreca
You got to bring in. What you got to do is you got to bring in winners. Yeah. You know, and. And that's why Parcels just walked in and do a thing. He's got his rings jingling and jangling. That's all the matter also.
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Alan Hahn
But Donnie, he did bring in some of his DNA guys.
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Don LaGreca
He did. But I'm saying is that all right? But. But instantaneously everybody's going to believe because Bill's done it.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
So when you bring in these neophyte coaches, what do they do? Listen, Aaron Glenn was a really good player and he played in a championship game. He was on some really good Jet teams. He hadn't won. Even in Detroit, he didn't win.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
That's not his fault. I'm just saying is you bring in guys.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
And that can change the culture and making sure that you bring in players that have kind of been there and done that. I think that's really, really important to a team that hasn't won in a long time. Let's go to Manny and Flushing your on ESPN New York. What's up, Manny?
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Caller
Hey, guys. How y' all doing good.
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Don LaGreca
What's up, baby?
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Caller
I'm good, man. Listen, by the way, I can't wait for the Knicks game tonight. Knicks and Pistons. Hopefully that we see our. Hopefully that we can get a win tonight. Get a ninth in a row. Listen, that's just player Phillips I don't really blame. Because when you, when you're a team that has 50 straight years of not reaching the playoffs and 10 straight years of not getting a winning season, you know, at some point, you know, you, you know, the, the masses need to stop. I mean, you know, the madness need to stop. I mean, it's hard. You know, it's. The madness needs to stop. I mean, it kind of reminds me what the Knicks have been through back in the 2000s and really into the 2010s. I mean, ghost and changes, GMs come and gone, players coming guarded in, you know. You know, you know, so, you know, listen, that player playoffs, I don't think it was. I mean, it was harsh, but at the same token, you cannot blame him because I don't think he has never been in team which it was so dysfunction through.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Caller
Through the front office and the ownership.
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Don LaGreca
Well, there's nothing wrong with being honest about honestly assessing the problem. Right. I mean, there's no, there's no sense in sugarcoating it, Manny. You know, and I didn't like a lot of the headlines that came out of this. Phillips says cancerous attitude in jets room. You know, even the way we slugged the cut that we played made jets have major problems. He was coming from a place of, hey, here's the issue, let's fix it. He's telling you the reality that exists. No bs. And this guy's been around a while. You know, he came, he came from Buffalo. He played places where they were on the cusp of winning. So I, I think there was value to everything that he said. Chris, in the car. You're on espn, New York.
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Caller
Hey, how's it going, guys?
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Don LaGreca
Good, baby.
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Alan Hahn
Chris.
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Caller
I just wanted to call as a longtime suffering jets fan. You guys asked about could you root for Darnold? And I just don't see how you guys couldn't or how anybody couldn't. If you think about the last four that we picked, right dances, Gino, Darnold and Wilson. By far, Donald is the most likable of the four. He always said and did the right things. I feel like he had the least amount of help. His number one receiver was Robbie Anderson and he never blamed the jets for his struggles, which he easily could have done. Zach said the wrong things. Gino had the thing with his draw and Sanchez, I just felt like they were winning in spite of him instead of because of him. So for me, Donald is. I'm 30 years old. For me, he's the guy that we've drafted that I grew up with, that I've been able to root for the most. And I wish him nothing but success for the rest of his career.
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Alan Hahn
Like that. That was the player. And Anthony is. Anthony was with me those. Those days when I was on at night. And Sam, obviously Josh Allen, but those were the guys. Lamar, that I was, like, really locked in on going into that draft. And the fact that when the Giants took Barkley and the jets were picking third, and I just went. I was watching the draft going, oh, my God, they're going to get Sam Darnold. Like, I didn't think they had a chance to get him, and they got him. And so for me, that's like the. One of the very few players in jets history that I really immediately connected with because I had watched him so much at USC for two years. And then, you know, the joke sucked for Sam and all that stuff was going on at the time. But I really was watching a lot of him and Wyoming football and obviously Lamar Jackson at Louisville, and I just, you know, I really wanted it to happen. And so the fact that it didn't was really frustrating. And to see him have success, it's easy for me as a Jets fan to watch that game Sunday and just be like, good on you, Sam. Like. Like, if he does it, I'll be really happy for him.
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Don LaGreca
Now, listen, he's right about Geno. Got punched out by ik.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
Wilson was a mess. Team gave up on him. Coach gave up on him.
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Alan Hahn
He gave up on him.
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Don LaGreca
You know, Sanchez was different. Like, Sanchez had his moments. There was some toolish behavior. Nothing really bad. I. Listen, what's happened to him recently, that doesn't have anything to do with the nose.
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Alan Hahn
Don, do you know, he was.
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Don LaGreca
He was a pro. He was pretty. I mean, there were. You know, there were little things. Like, remember he came out after the one game, had all of his comments written down. Like, there were. There were wacky things. I never thought he was a bad guy.
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Alan Hahn
Do you remember? So you were around a lot for that stuff. Do you remember, though, that it started to become that free Sanchez thing, where it was. There was a fan thing that was. That. That was. Schottenheimer wasn't opening up the playbook enough.
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Caller
Oh, yeah.
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Alan Hahn
And that he should do more and he could be a top 10 quarterback in this league and he should throw more. Everything he did was play action. You remember they were very heavy run team and he would play action. And because he was so good at it, he looked really good in play action. But you were always playing the run on the jets when they. It felt like Rex fell into that open up the playbook, let him throw more. And once that happened, man, you started realizing like, nope, that was not the right idea.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah. And I always felt too with Sanchez that. And unfortunately now his life's kind of got away from him and hopefully he'll be able to get things back. But he probably thought he was all in, but he probably wasn't a little bit too laid back. Wasn't really a New York guy, but again, not. Not a bad guy. I'm not saying Gino and Zach are bad guys, but, you know, one guy lost the room and, you know, Gino's getting into a fight with ik. None of that happened with Arnold. He was a good kid. Just didn't work out here. And you should be happy for him. Right. Because I always felt like he gave his all circumstances just weren't right. And it's just one of those things. You're far enough removed from it that I think you can feel a little bit better about yourself, about the situation. John and farming. What's.
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Alan Hahn
I'm sorry, I was going to say Jim there. Jim, I want to hear this story.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, Jim in New Jersey. What do you got, buddy?
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Caller
Hey, thank you.
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Don LaGreca
When Rob Sala was hired, my wife and I went out to dinner and we saw him and his wife at the, at the restaurant right behind us. On my way out, I said, hey, so happy to hear.
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Caller
I think you guys should keep Sam.
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Don LaGreca
Donald and use the picks or something else. He goes, yeah, he's a good quarterback. We'll see. I'm like, okay. And then that's when they, they let him go. But I thought in his fourth year that he was doing a much better.
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Caller
Job and had the jets kept him.
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Don LaGreca
And use those draft picks or something else, it would have been a much different situation. And then, you know, these guys get better at different times in their career.
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Caller
As well as you can see.
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Don LaGreca
I mean, but even, even Testaverde, he wasn't good until he was in his 30s.
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Alan Hahn
Really?
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Don LaGreca
Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I don't think, I don't think Robert Sala had anything to do with it.
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Alan Hahn
No, he didn't.
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Don LaGreca
You know, it was all about, honestly, the owner and Douglas deciding it wasn't just keeping Darnold and not picking Wilson as do we give him the fifth year option. And remember it aged well for the jets in the sense that Carolina gave Darnold the fifth year option and he fell on his face and it was like, well, see, jets did the right thing. Maybe they shouldn't have drafted Wilson, but they did the right thing with Sam. And nobody was thinking anything in San Francisco when he rode the pine. Then all of a sudden he's in Minnesota. It's like, yeah, but then Minnesota gives up on him. So it's like, oh, maybe it's just an aberration.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's the crazy part.
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Alan Hahn
That's where they know something. Yeah, that's.
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Don LaGreca
They must know something, Peter. Right? Like, all right, they won 14 games of it, but they must know they can't get to the promised land.
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Peter Rosenberg
But to watch him go step by step and you know, I remember Don, we first brought it up when he was in Carolina, you know that like hey, you know, year one all right, not, not great. Year two starts to look better. Has a winning record, more touchdowns than interceptions, but the numbers just aren't great. But you started to see a little something and then, yeah, I mean barely gets a sniff, throws the ball 45 times in San Francisco. The crazy thing is in Minnesota it then happens and then they still don't believe. It's like that's what makes the story dead sexy. They didn't believe again.
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Don LaGreca
So listen, we can have fun with the jets that they had the franchise quarterback in the room, but so much time and so many teams later, it finally comes up where you're like, how long could the jets could have waited, right? And we all thought that going to be with Rule in Carolina was going to help him. And you know what happened to Rule?
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Alan Hahn
I wish that call was better. I thought he had, I thought he had a good story. I just like he would have had a good story and that was a very non good.
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Don LaGreca
Well, the reason I didn't is because again I don't think Robert Saleh had anything to do with it. Robert Sala was a defensive guy. The feeling was this was a, it really was a Johnson thing, right? He, I think he wanted Wilson.
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Alan Hahn
Conspiracy theories, I still believe, but that.
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Don LaGreca
That'S a conspiracy theory that I, I would bet money happened.
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Alan Hahn
I was just hoping that the caller would have had a better like solace at this. Right. And that would have been a little more exciting.
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Don LaGreca
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Alan Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?
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Peter Rosenberg
I'm a fraud with a capital F.
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Alan Hahn
Is your friend a fraud?
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Peter Rosenberg
I have been a complete and utter fraud.
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Alan Hahn
Are you a fraud?
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Don LaGreca
What is fraud?
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Alan Hahn
Let's ask Dom McGregor.
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Don LaGreca
Screw.
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Peter Rosenberg
Go scratch yourself.
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Alan Hahn
Brought to you by D' Agostino Law.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh yeah, you bet your ace you do the gavel. Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Alan Hahn
The judge is ready.
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Peter Rosenberg
Fraud. Fraud. Fraud Alert Friday Brought to you by Dagostino Law. How's everyone feeling?
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Don LaGreca
Good, I think. I feel like I'm going to judge very harshly today.
- [24:51]
Alan Hahn
Harsh.
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Don LaGreca
Unforgiving. Today I feel very unforgiving. I feel like Gene Hackman and Unforgiven.
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Alan Hahn
Did we have from the earlier in the week that we wanted to bring back to Fraud Friday? Why? Am I thinking of something? Yes, there was. There was something.
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Don LaGreca
Anthony, Anthony.
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Peter Rosenberg
Anthony, Anthony.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, sure. Wasn't there something we discussed during the week? Definitely. Maybe even. Was it talk about it Tuesday or something? There was something we said. We got to bring this back for fraud Friday.
- [25:28]
Harrison Phillips
That sounds right.
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Don LaGreca
He doesn't remember.
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Peter Rosenberg
What he's saying is he has no idea that.
- [25:32]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, our show really just is so hard hitting that everything that we say is just.
- [25:36]
Peter Rosenberg
That's the thing. It's too much. Tuesday ago, one of the emails I got in the fraud alert mailbag I did just send to our group chat. I don't know if I'd call this fraud alert, but it is a troubling graphic from msg. Don, we missed this during the week.
- [25:51]
Alan Hahn
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
Don, you want to tell everybody what's going on there?
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Don LaGreca
It's the. It's the Mercedes Benz Knicks post game show.
- [26:02]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, it's not a good.
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Don LaGreca
They've the great Alan Hahn as Wally Zerbiak. Now some may look at that as a compliment.
- [26:12]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, some may.
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Don LaGreca
But really all that matters is Alan Hans feeling on it. Did you take it as a compliment?
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Alan Hahn
I don't care.
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Peter Rosenberg
How could it be a compliment?
- [26:20]
Alan Hahn
Well, why wouldn't it be a compliment?
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Don LaGreca
No, it's not a compliment, Zerbiak.
- [26:24]
Alan Hahn
Listen, if I was. So what if I was at the bank, it'd be a compliment. Correct?
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Peter Rosenberg
Alan. Alan got the only way it makes sense. Right. But if, if, if at the bank they handed him the money and said, thank you, Mr. Zer. Oh, otherwise it's. It's nothing but an incident.
- [26:40]
Alan Hahn
Here is your safety deposit box, Mr. Oh, thank you.
- [26:44]
Don LaGreca
By the company. Right.
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Alan Hahn
It was a mistake. Here's why. I was not supposed to be in the opening segment. Normally I am. I was on the court during the interview. And then I go into the locker room to do more interviews. But Wally was filling in for Monica McNutt on the radio call. Of course, everybody knows. And so he wasn't able to get down to the studio in time for seg1, so I jumped in. Fonting was already done and the graphics editor just, probably just was like, yeah, nobody will notice. No, I don't know. It was a mistake.
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Don LaGreca
Somebody did.
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Alan Hahn
It happens.
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Don LaGreca
But there were good though, by the.
- [27:23]
Alan Hahn
Way, I look pretty good there. Gotta admit, you look.
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Peter Rosenberg
You look fantastic. That's Alan. That's my point. To even say that it would be a compliment to call you Wally Zerbiak is in fact an insult because it's saying Zerbiak's an upgrade from you. What I'm saying is Zerbiak wants to be called Holland. That's what I'm saying.
- [27:43]
Don LaGreca
That's strong. Bill looks good too. He decided to go with the jacket open. That's always a nice.
- [27:48]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, listen, Bill's in a tough spot. Bill's in a tough spot. Sitting next to. Sitting next to Wally and Allen. It's.
- [27:54]
Don LaGreca
It's tough, select, tough.
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Alan Hahn
He does it very well.
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Peter Rosenberg
There's no question.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, he does it well. That's a funny faux pas. I heard about it. I did not see the actual fonting. So that's. That's funny to look at.
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Don LaGreca
There you go. All right.
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Peter Rosenberg
So also in the inbox, a lot of fun things. Someone wrote to tell me that Anthony Pusick's a fraud. I. But I didn't understand what he meant. I looked for it. I couldn't figure it out.
- [28:18]
Alan Hahn
Well, that's.
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Peter Rosenberg
Someone sent some fish information up for us, all right, Explaining that they do a lot of covers. They said that their biggest record is Tweezer. That was from Pete. He sent us that Michael wrote us and told us to stop being cavemen and that we're all big time gentlemen and we need to live in the lap of luxury that is ad free YouTube. And once we pay for it, he says we will only be angry that we didn't do it sooner.
- [28:46]
Don LaGreca
Okay, So I heard this Friday, today. What's going on?
- [28:50]
Peter Rosenberg
What are you trying to say?
- [28:51]
Alan Hahn
What's going on here?
- [28:52]
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, hey, relax over there. Judge, we just got a lot of emails. I'm trying to communicate with the people.
- [28:56]
Don LaGreca
I just told you.
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Alan Hahn
Court clerk telling the judge to settle. I love it.
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Peter Rosenberg
Calm down, Judge. Here we go. Good afternoon, Judge Lagreca. Bad guy fraud here. Thankfully, I'm still married to my wife, even though I let her down a few weeks ago. But I was wondering if you saw the Jet fan who asked Sam Darnold on media day if he can switch teams from the jets to the the Seahawks. I know he's a fraud. Even though Donald gave his blessing. There's vomit fraud, stalker fraud, inheritance fraud. And I'm bad guy fraud. What kind of fraud is he? The man who asked Darnold can he switch from the jets to the Seahawks?
- [29:36]
Don LaGreca
He's attention fraud. Now, what was it McKenna's mom was called? A name that we couldn't say on the air.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's right.
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Alan Hahn
Yes.
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Don LaGreca
So you'd be attention that name Fraud.
- [29:52]
Alan Hahn
Wow.
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Don LaGreca
Attention bore fraud. Because that's all that was. Look at me like me. Please, dear God in heaven, acknowledge my existence because I've done nothing in my life. So please give me gift me my 15 minutes. Please, dear God in heaven. And that's that. That is right up there is the worst kind of fraud.
- [30:11]
Peter Rosenberg
One of the. It's One of the worst kinds of fraud. Right? Why can't.
- [30:14]
Don LaGreca
We can't say that word.
- [30:17]
Peter Rosenberg
No, you could have. If you didn't give the whole setup of the McKenna thing and you would just said, oh, that guy's an attention whore, you would have been fine.
- [30:24]
Don LaGreca
Oh, well, there you go.
- [30:25]
Alan Hahn
You can say that Bart said that once we were told never say.
- [30:28]
Don LaGreca
Bart and Rick play by way different rules than every other.
- [30:31]
Alan Hahn
That is. That is abundantly clear, as we know.
- [30:34]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, well, they're trying to. With Bart, they're just trying to stop.
- [30:36]
Don LaGreca
That's called management fraud.
- [30:44]
Peter Rosenberg
All right, so here we go. 38 years old. Like many baseball fans living in New York, I inherited my team from my dad. He was a die hard Yankee fan, and I've been a die hard Yankee fan for as long as I can remember. Watch every inning of every game.
- [30:55]
Don LaGreca
Oh, got a life. What?
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Caller
What?
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Peter Rosenberg
My dad did. I almost said it.
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Don LaGreca
No life.
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Peter Rosenberg
My dad. What my dad did not have was a football team. So I basically had to choose whatever team I wanted to root for as a kid. And as a five year old, I chose the Patriots for admittedly the kid reasons that in 1993 made sense. They had cool new uniforms, Drew Bledsoe threw the ball a lot.
- [31:16]
Don LaGreca
Whatever.
- [31:18]
Peter Rosenberg
As I learned more about football, my diehard Pats fandom remained. As a kid, I would watch whatever game was on in NY just to see the Pats score roll across the bottom and would eagerly circle the national games on the calendar. In fact, as the Pats became a dynasty, the proliferation of national games was almost as exciting for me as the winning. As soon as I turned 21, I started going to bars and restaurants every Sunday to watch the team. And between that and the ticket, I've watched every down of New England football since all the way back. I've never actively rooted for another team or switched allegiances in any. In any sport. And have both the Yankees and Patriots logos tattooed.
- [31:58]
Caller
Oh, that's.
- [32:00]
Peter Rosenberg
And yet I'll often be called a fraud for cheering for a team from New York and a team from Boston, even though they're in different sports. I certainly don't see myself as a fraud, but I'd like an official ruling.
- [32:17]
Don LaGreca
Absolutely no fraud. He chose the Patriots. Why he would choose those uniforms. I hated when they went to those uniforms in 93. And he has stuck with them through thick and thin. He's tattooed his body, his. His dad was not a football fan, so he was left to figure it out himself. Yeah, I guess being from New York, you'd think Maybe jets and Giants, but, you know, for whatever reason, he went with the Patriots, stuck with it, Absolutely no fraud.
- [32:43]
Peter Rosenberg
You know why? It's really a couple of things. Number one, it's funny. This kind of stuff happens all the time because, like, you meet people who root for your. Your team in one sport, and then they root for a different team in another sport.
- [32:57]
Don LaGreca
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
And like, you, you find it annoying unless you're the person who's like that. But in New York, it's particularly. Particularly silly to think about because half the Yankee fans, even if they root for New York teams, root for two different teams. You know what I'm saying?
- [33:16]
Alan Hahn
Yes.
- [33:16]
Peter Rosenberg
Like, yes, I know most Yankees fans are Giants fans, but not always.
- [33:19]
Alan Hahn
Well, no. Again, just going back. Look at Alan, going back to the original premise. Yeah. I don't make sense either. And a lot of my stuff is defiance to my family.
- [33:28]
Peter Rosenberg
A lot of people's stuff is that.
- [33:30]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, which. Which causes all kinds of issues. But no. What. As much as it pains me, I think Don making that call is the right call. And we are in a world now where, I think as we grew up, there was this sense of, like, you know, it was very provincial when it comes to teams you root for. And that has gone away more and more. It started, I think, in the 80s, maybe late 70s, because you had the Cowboys and the Steelers and the Dolphins, and you were able to watch a lot of them. But now, especially with the ability to consume sports any, anywhere, anytime, it's a. It's less and less likely that you would just be there as a provincial sports fan. But so rooting for a team in Boston, being from New York, and also rooting for a team in New York, that's not fraud.
- [34:16]
Don LaGreca
But there's three reasons why you become a fan. One, you inherit it from your family.
- [34:21]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
The other is that you decide, I don't want to root for the local teams. They stink, so I'm going to root for somebody else. Was somewhat fraudulent, if that's the reason you do it. But then this one is truly organic, where he just found it out of self. He wasn't guided by his father. And obviously it wasn't like the Patriots were winning a bunch of super bowls. It was 1993. They were. They had bled, so. But they weren't like, you know, the Dallas Cowboys. If he chose the Cowboys, I'd say it's kind of fraudulent. He hopped on a bandwagon. He didn't hop on any kind of bandwagon. How do you like organic?
- [34:54]
Peter Rosenberg
How do you like this. So. So AI now has a thing in, like, email where it will recommend and it will suggest replies for you.
- [35:02]
Don LaGreca
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
The suggested AI reply to this email from you suggested by AI was. Hey, Brian, no fraud here. You inherited the Yanks, chose the Pats. Makes sense. Okay, well, AI is sort of in lockstep with it.
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Don LaGreca
Are you trying to say that AI.
- [35:20]
Alan Hahn
Replacing the judge with AI? Let's see your time.
- [35:24]
Peter Rosenberg
They have a suggestion on this next one, too.
- [35:26]
Don LaGreca
Let's see.
- [35:28]
Peter Rosenberg
All right. Hi, guys. It's in quotes, so they mean, hi, guys. I've got an interested fraud question for Judge legreca. Although it's not about anyone in particular, I think it's fairly common to see fans of a team wearing jerseys of players from past eras. On the surface, it seems fine. What's wrong with repping one of your team's best players from years past? However, I think it's a little.
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Don LaGreca
Yo, yo.
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Peter Rosenberg
Wearing the jersey of a player who won a championship with your team before you're even born just feels kind of like trying too hard, bro. And dare I say, fraudulent. For example, one Christmas, my sister gave me a T shirt with the names of a bunch of 86 Mets players on it. The problem is, I was born in 87, so I didn't get to enjoy that team. Ultimately, the 86 Mets can't hold the same place in my heart as they do for someone like Don, because I didn't live it. Wearing that shirt or a Keith Hernandez jersey is just a reminder that I've yet to see the Mets win at all. Ultimately, I will respect and adhere to Judge LaGreca's ruling, but I think I'm onto something here. Love you guys.
- [36:30]
Don LaGreca
Now, as much as I'm not going to call somebody that wears an Ed Kreampool Jersey, and he's 16 years old, a fraud, I do see where he's coming from.
- [36:41]
Alan Hahn
That.
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Don LaGreca
It does feel a little trying too hard, bro. I can't go as far as fraud. I'm sorry, Dagostino, but it does have a look at me. I know the history, I'm kind of better than you vibe that I get from it. But not fraudulent. But I totally hear what he's seeing. So I don't know if that ruling makes sense. Ruling is no fraud, but definitely kind of that guy.
- [37:11]
Alan Hahn
It. Is it. Okay? Is it that guy? Well, it depends on the franchise, because if. If, like. And I'm gonna. I'll be that guy if you. If I. Mickey Mantle jersey. I'm not a jersey guy. Let's just say I wore, I was a jersey wearing fan wearing a Mickey Mantle jersey. Of course, not with Mantle written on the back.
- [37:33]
Don LaGreca
Well, you do see that, which is.
- [37:35]
Alan Hahn
The height of yo yo Frog again. Well, yeah, that is the height of yo yo Frog, but that's just celebrating the, the rich history of the team that I love. Don't you think?
- [37:46]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, I, I, I.
- [37:47]
Alan Hahn
Wearing an Emerson Boozer jets jersey has really, you know, there's really two things you benefit from. Number one, it's Emerson Boozer was part of a Super bowl team. Number two, it's his boozer on the back and I'm at a bar and kind of a.
- [38:01]
Don LaGreca
Cool. Yeah, but all right, if I, I think it's kind of pretentious and if you're a Yankee fan and you're walking around, why is it pretentious with a 3 jersey?
- [38:12]
Alan Hahn
Why is it pretentious?
- [38:13]
Don LaGreca
It doesn't. Because it's all. What are you doing?
- [38:15]
Alan Hahn
What am I doing? I'm celebrating the history of my team.
- [38:17]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, but you can stop. There's plenty of modern day history. You don't have to go there. It's almost like you're showing off. Like, oh, I know. It's the equivalent of a scientist walking around with the science book. Like, look at me, I'm a scientist. I've got the book and everything. I know that Babe Ruth played. It's being that guy.
- [38:35]
Alan Hahn
It's not being that guy.
- [38:36]
Don LaGreca
But if you're a Devil fan and you've got a Lane Chevalier jersey, you almost enjoy the irony of, like, you know, that's kind of cool. He didn't pick a great devil, but it's an old time Devil. It's kind of funny, you know what I'm saying?
- [38:50]
Alan Hahn
I, I do and I don't. I do.
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Don LaGreca
All right, Jet, let's keep it. If you're franchise specific, Jet fan, you got Nemeth. You're, you're kind of showing off off. You got a Buttle jersey. I think you're cool. I want to have a drink with you.
- [39:05]
Alan Hahn
Oh, wow. Okay. So now it depends on whose jersey you're wearing.
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Don LaGreca
Well, because again, it's not you. Are you, no offense to Greg, but are you really showing off or you just be like, you know what? I love Greg Buttle. Well, let's some hit different than others, you know what I'm saying?
- [39:21]
Alan Hahn
I buy that jersey.
- [39:22]
Don LaGreca
I do.
- [39:23]
Peter Rosenberg
Of course. No, they're not, they're not, they're not all equal. I'll tell you what. I, I've been gifted and have now a couple of Redskin jerseys from the 80s teams before I was on board, which was 87. I have. I have a Riggins. I do feel a little fro. Like not fraudulent, but when I wear it, it does feel like a little bit more like, oh, it's. This is a demonstration. Like, look at me. Not like that's just.
- [39:52]
Alan Hahn
That's.
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Peter Rosenberg
It does that.
- [39:54]
Alan Hahn
That is.
- [39:54]
Peter Rosenberg
And by the way, and while we mention that, can I just say rest in peace to Sonny Jurgensen. RIP Great.
- [39:59]
Alan Hahn
I didn't see that 91 run, though.
- [40:02]
Peter Rosenberg
Hell of a run.
- [40:03]
Don LaGreca
But I would.
- [40:05]
Peter Rosenberg
If you want to see what old timey football looks like, kids, just Google Sonny and see what he looked like with that single bar across the face mask.
- [40:13]
Don LaGreca
The.
- [40:13]
Peter Rosenberg
The single bar face mask. But for. But for me, he was. What made him amazing was his years in the radio booth.
- [40:21]
Don LaGreca
He was right.
- [40:22]
Peter Rosenberg
Just him sitting there smoking the cigar in the booth, having a drink. I got to work at a radio station. My first talk gig was the station that had the Redskins at the time. So I got to watch like two or three games just sitting in the back of the booth. It was a dream as a kid. Anyways, we have some callers if we want to get to on the other side, but that'll do it for fraud for Friday for right now.
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Alan Hahn
That was good.
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Peter Rosenberg
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- [41:08]
Don LaGreca
Bite back.
- [41:11]
Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [41:14]
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [41:15]
Alan Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever. Subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
- [41:23]
Don LaGreca
Little salsa on a Friday. It's Bad Bunny. I didn't even know.
- [41:30]
Alan Hahn
Listen, I don't have to know what he's saying. I just know it moved me.
- [41:37]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, there's plenty of songs where it's not. I don't understand. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the song.
- [41:45]
Alan Hahn
Right?
- [41:47]
Don LaGreca
Heck, you know, half the thrash metal songs I listened to in college, I couldn't.
- [41:50]
Alan Hahn
You know what?
- [41:54]
Don LaGreca
Still enjoyed it.
- [41:55]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, they wrote this now. Almost makes like, think about it halftime. Play this, make some guac, bring some chips out. You know, get in the mood. A little Modelo. I'm feeling good.
- [42:10]
Don LaGreca
Like, what are you doing for the Super Bowl?
- [42:12]
Alan Hahn
I'll be driving home From Boston. I'm calling the game. Nick. Celtics for ESPN Radio. Myself and Mark Kestischer.
- [42:19]
Don LaGreca
Oh, how about that? So, Mark, I said hello. He's a gem.
- [42:21]
Alan Hahn
Guesty. Love him. Talked to him yesterday. And so once that game's over, like, seriously, I'll be like the wind. Just get to my car and get down I95 home to New York, hopefully. I doubt it'll be in time for kickoff, but I'll. I'll be in.
- [42:38]
Don LaGreca
Well, the game's what, at 12:30?
- [42:40]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [42:41]
Don LaGreca
You have no post game?
- [42:43]
Alan Hahn
No post game, no nothing. No obligation.
- [42:44]
Don LaGreca
I find Boston fairly easy to get out of after a game. And you would never gone to a Celtic game. But I've gone to a Bruins.
- [42:52]
Alan Hahn
Insufferable. Gonna be in Boston with the Patriots in the Super Bowl. You know, in softball, that building's gonna be. But I imagine everybody's gonna be indoors at that point. Right. Nobody's gonna be out and about, so it should be able to, you know, hopefully scoot down i95 reasonably enough to get back to Long island on the couch in time for most of the.
- [43:16]
Don LaGreca
First half, and you'll be able to listen to the start of the game on the radio.
- [43:20]
Alan Hahn
So.
- [43:20]
Don LaGreca
Absolutely big of a deal.
- [43:22]
Alan Hahn
Sure will I.
- [43:23]
Don LaGreca
1-800-919-3776. Colin in West Orange has a fraud question for the judge. What do you got?
- [43:32]
Caller
Yes. Happy Friday.
- [43:33]
Don LaGreca
Happy Friday.
- [43:35]
Caller
Pretty. Pretty sure we got a case of fraud here, but if so, I'll embrace it. Growing up as a kid in New Jersey didn't really have that university athletics around. I was a Duke fan.
- [43:48]
Don LaGreca
I even came with, you know, went.
- [43:51]
Caller
Through some health stuff, got a personalized note from Coach K. Always meant a lot.
- [43:55]
Don LaGreca
I was a. I was a die hard all through college till I met my wife around 2012.
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Caller
A school out in Pennsylvania called Merriwood. Okay, so not a D1 school.
- [44:09]
Don LaGreca
Didn't mean anything with athletics. Right.
- [44:12]
Caller
So meet my wife in 2012. She's also from New Jersey.
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Don LaGreca
She's a die hard Seton hall fan.
- [44:19]
Caller
I start to go to a couple games with her. We're going about a bunch.
- [44:24]
Don LaGreca
We go to the Big east title and MSG.
- [44:26]
Caller
And 2015, I think it was.
- [44:31]
Don LaGreca
It's.
- [44:31]
Caller
It's given me that local flavor I.
- [44:33]
Alan Hahn
Always kind of wanted.
- [44:35]
Caller
When Coach K ends up retiring, she pretty much demands that I declare my new allegiance. And I think I have to admit, my allegiance now does fall with Sean Hall.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, I think you. Am I fraud? Your own question. Yes, of course you're a fraud. Again, I Don't understand the whole, I love Duke, even though I never went to Duke. Believing that aside, you decided to be a Duke fan and you made a zipper key.
- [45:02]
Alan Hahn
Even wrote you a personal letter, right? And then you're like, I'm good. Zipper key shows up. And I'm.
- [45:07]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, zipper key shows up. You know? No, no letter from, I guess, P.J. carlissimo. The timing wouldn't be right for that.
- [45:14]
Alan Hahn
We can work it out, though.
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Don LaGreca
I mean, I think he knew. I think he knew what the answer was going to be.
- [45:20]
Alan Hahn
Speaking of Seton hall, can I shout out the women's basketball coach, Tony Bozzella?
- [45:24]
Don LaGreca
Sure.
- [45:24]
Alan Hahn
He's done a great job there. Good friend of mine, known him a long time.
- [45:28]
Don LaGreca
They're doing well.
- [45:29]
Alan Hahn
They're very competitive. Very competitive.
- [45:33]
Don LaGreca
We've got a very interesting comment from Matt in South Florida. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Matt.
- [45:41]
Caller
Hey, fellas. Hey, fellas.
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Alan Hahn
How you doing?
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Caller
Happy Friday.
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Don LaGreca
Good. Happy Friday to you.
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Caller
Hey, I just, you know, I called in because now you guys have been together for a year, and I wanted to see if you were going to lock in the clown show for next year. And Anthony tells me that. Peter, congratulations. You' up as a clown this year. Yeah, I had no idea.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah. No, it's official.
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Caller
When is it? When is this clown show happening? And have you decided on your clown? Clown makeup yet? Clown get up.
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Don LaGreca
That is a really good question. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate that question. When is it? I don't happen, guys.
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Peter Rosenberg
Clown show.
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Don LaGreca
Clown show. Clown show. Now, the idea is, do we do it, like, do we wait until the Beach Bash? Ooh, very hot. Uncomfortable. But at least to be in front of a live audience, that seems very cruel. That's my vote, though.
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Alan Hahn
What if we did it at the Big east show?
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Don LaGreca
The Big east in the middle, Right in the middle of Penn Station, right?
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Alan Hahn
Monahan right there talking St. John's Yukon like Richard dreams about, right? Get the Big East Commish on, and Peter's in a clown suit. Pictures all over social of you with the Big East Commish.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, I mean, the good news is people would go. People would go, who's that guy with the clown?
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Alan Hahn
Respectful.
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Don LaGreca
Very good.
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Alan Hahn
I see what you.
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Peter Rosenberg
I, I. Listen, I can't. I can't make the choice here. You know, I think it's not up to me.
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Don LaGreca
I think being a remote. Don't you agree, though, Peter?
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Peter Rosenberg
Yes, I agree. It should be a remote Beach Bash feels far off to pay off the football bet.
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Alan Hahn
I agree with that. Yes.
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Peter Rosenberg
So don't we have two coming up. Potentially.
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Alan Hahn
We have a potential. Oh, the other one you're suggesting would be really funny. Can't discuss it. But it is one that is. I think it's also a good possibility. Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
I think in some ways that may be the better fit in terms of, like, if it's what I recall, it's us watching a game together. Correct?
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Don LaGreca
Yes.
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Alan Hahn
After. After we do a show.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
I love this idea.
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Peter Rosenberg
So that, that combo of you get the show and then it's incentive for people to come hang at the event.
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Alan Hahn
With us like this.
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Don LaGreca
But do like this. But it's from a humiliation factor, which is what you want the punishment to be being at Moynihan right there in front of people, our fans and just passers by.
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Alan Hahn
And Richard, most likely.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it's.
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Don LaGreca
I, I, I'll tell you my thoughts.
- [48:02]
Peter Rosenberg
I only have one third of a vote, I think.
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Alan Hahn
I, I don't know, Don. I'm feeling the other one. If it happens. And is that one scheduled? Like, we'll know right after Dead or not is like, we'll know soon.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
If that's.
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Peter Rosenberg
We'll know soon.
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Don LaGreca
I don't.
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Alan Hahn
I do.
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Don LaGreca
Because it's up. Because one's up in the air and, and the other that is the one that's not up in the air we're locked into is the Big east, and it's in a public place.
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Alan Hahn
It is, it is, but so is the other one. And the other ones also.
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Don LaGreca
Yeah, but this is. Listen, the foot traffic. Right, but we're talking about a train station.
- [48:36]
Alan Hahn
If we're trying to attract people to an event and we put there your ability to take pictures with Bozo the Clown. Sorry. I know why we gave him a name.
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Don LaGreca
I, I can't get classier than Bozo. Right?
- [48:53]
Alan Hahn
That's. I mean, I just gave you a comp. Doink. Peter, you're doing. I put you.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I'll be doing.
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Don LaGreca
Or Dink or Crusty.
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Alan Hahn
Crusty. I didn't call you Crusty.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, Crusty was Jewish. It may be a bit.
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Alan Hahn
That is true.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
But anyway, I'm just saying like, that, that, that feels like a good, A good draw. My opinion.
- [49:14]
Peter Rosenberg
Let's. Let's find out from the Pinheads if the event is happening and then make a call.
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Alan Hahn
Okay.
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Don LaGreca
One of the best. Listen, I fell out of. It's probably 92 when I fell out of the Simpsons, but one of the great lines in the Simpsons is from Krusty the Clown, where they're. They're talking about. They're talking about something and one of the mothers goes to Krusty. You know, don't talk about that in front of the C h I l D R e n. He's like sex cauldron. That's right. Don't talk about sex in front of the C h I l D e R n sex cauldron. All right, we'll figure it out. I vote for Moynihan. Just because it's a lock. Because then what if we miss the Big east and then the other one falls through? And then what?
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, no, we decide before sooner.
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Alan Hahn
Well, no, it's sooner rather than later. I guess.
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Don LaGreca
That's my vote. I'm already early ballot. I early voted.
- [50:13]
Alan Hahn
Fair enough. We'll see.
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Don LaGreca
All right, Big five o' clock hour. Ian at six. Donna Rosenberg, ESPN New York well, real.
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN. The ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.