Hour 2: Running It Back & That Guy

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – January 29, 2026

Hour 2: Running It Back & That Guy

Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Michael Kay (in for Don La Greca)
Theme: Knicks trade speculation, the Yankees’ strategy of “running it back,” the psychology of New York fans, the Hall of Fame Belichick snub, and “That Guy Thursday.”

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Overview

Hour 2 finds the trio digging into New York sports hot topics, centering on two polarizing debates: whether the Knicks should make a franchise-altering trade for Giannis Antetokounmpo, and if the Yankees’ decision to “run it back” with largely the same roster is justified. The hour features spirited back-and-forth with callers, a deep dive into Brian Cashman’s public relations tactics, and a hilarious “That Guy Thursday” with unexpectedly heartfelt admissions and sharp Hall of Fame takes.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Knicks Trade Talk: To Deal or Not to Deal Giannis?

(00:13–06:00)

• Caller George (00:53): Expresses skepticism about trading for Giannis, referencing age and injury concerns. Suggests building around existing assets and targeting different players like Sadiq Bey and Jose Alvarado.
  • “You don't get called the freak for, you know, being a mid player, but at the same time, he is turning 31. His Achilles is going to burst real quick.”—George (01:11)
• Hosts’ Reaction: The panel largely disagrees with George’s reading of Mikal Bridges’ comments; they interpret Bridges as self-accountable rather than disgruntled.
  • “He was putting it on himself that the message wasn't getting there.”—Michael Kay (02:14)
  • “If multi, benevolent judge, multiple takes are bad, one of them, one good one doesn't make up for it.”—Alan Hahn (02:54)
• Caller Flavio (03:07): Also doesn’t want to trade for Giannis, citing salary cap issues (the "second apron") and emphasizing the risk of trading away Karl-Anthony Towns (Cat), especially considering his rebounding edge.
  • “I just don't want that to be happening. You know, calf injuries are very sensitive now...getting somebody that's compromised, like, you know, we. If he gets hurt on our watch, then we're screwed.”—Flavio (03:54)
• Takeaway: The sentiment among fans and show hosts is to avoid desperation—valuing continuity and asset preservation over a blockbuster trade, especially given Giannis’ recent injuries.

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2. Yankees: The “Running It Back” Debate

(06:00–19:26)

• Yankees’ Offseason Moves:
  • Cody Bellinger re-signs; otherwise, the team remains largely unchanged.
  • Brian Cashman pushes back against the perception: “It’s not the same roster...we’ve had some additions, you know, from the second half that got their feet wet...” (as quoted by Alan Hahn, 06:19)
• The Hosts’ Take:
  • Michael Kay: Finds Cashman’s filibuster tactics strategic—he eats up time with verbose answers to avoid tough questions.
    • “He reduces the number of questions you ask, and he kind of lulls you into a place that he wants you to be.”—Michael Kay (07:58)
  • Alan Hahn: Suggests “running it back” is defensible because the team barely missed tying the Blue Jays, who went to the World Series.
    • “If you ran it back and then you have Cole, it should be good enough.”—Michael Kay (15:59)
  • Consensus: The frustration from fans is more about optics than substance—the core is strong, especially with injured stars returning.
• Caller Frank: Pushes back against the notion that “Yankee fans want a superstar at every position,” arguing it’s the loud online minority, not the average fan.
  • “I take exception with...this belief that Yankee fans want a superstar at every location. I don't want to win that way.”—Frank (19:35)
  • The panel acknowledges the tendency of shows and fans to focus on negatives; the noisy minority dominates the conversation.

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3. That Guy Thursday: Honest Takes & Hall of Fame Accountability

(23:26–37:19)

• Don’s Self-Reflection (24:00):
  • Don admits that, while he’s historically fought for the Olympics’ “best-on-best” hockey, he’s now dreading the NHL’s three-week Olympic break due to potential injuries and the disruption to an exciting regular season.
  • “I'm that guy...I'll watch it, and I'll be into it like I am every Olympics. But...I'm not feeling it, man. I am not feeling it, because I'm watching the hockey that's getting played right now...and we're going to shut it down for 18 days to go play in the Olympics...it just doesn't feel that important to me. And shutting down what's been a tremendous regular season to me is not going to be fun.”—Don (24:00-27:04)
• Alan’s “That Guy” (29:07): Calls out the Hall of Fame process for snubbing Bill Belichick, questioning why no voters have the courage to clearly state opposition.
  • “Can't somebody who said I don't think he should have been in just step forward and say, you know what? Like, in a way, Don, as I was thinking about this and Peter, you know, again, you haven't had a chance to have a take on this, but it's like, can't somebody who said I don't think he should have been in...just have the stones to say that?”—Alan Hahn (30:53)
• Peter Rosenberg on Belichick “That Guy” Issue (31:36):
  • “He is the coaching face of the modern era of football and you made him look like a yo yo...it does not change the fact that in my opinion, I think he's hands down the best in game football coach of all time.”—Peter (31:36)
  • Also commends those voters who put their name to their votes, but notes the cowardice of the majority who didn't.
  • “But what's the excuse of the other 10? Well, why aren't they coming forward?”—Michael Kay (37:04)
• Takeaway: The segment becomes a reflection on accountability—whether in sports decisions, award voting, or fan behavior.

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4. Fun & Pop Culture Moments

(10:00–17:00, 37:46–45:09)

• Monotone Brian Cashman = “Bueller, Bueller” and game show host Ben Stein:
  • “At the Oscars in February, they should play a sound bite of Cashman when they need you to be done.”—Michael Kay (07:28)
• Anecdotes about Hall of Fame voting, hosts’ TV appearances, and the wrestling Royal Rumble:
  • Peter draws parallels between the Royal Rumble and March Madness—an event that draws in casual and lapsed fans (39:45–41:05).
  • “It is the one event that brings people back. Like even when I lived...with Bal and Elliott, they didn't have any interest in wrestling. But when the Royal Rumble would come on, they'd be like, ‘Oh, we watch Royal Rumble. Let's drink. Let's all drink some beers and watch the Rumble.'”—Peter (40:19)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On reading too much negativity into fan calls:
  • “It's the happy being miserable that I think happens with not just Yankees fans...I always joked that if the Knicks win the NBA championship, the next day, someone will go, well, they're not going to win two in a row because of this and this...You can't ever just be happy the Knicks or have optimism.”—Alan Hahn (21:22)
• On the Hall of Fame “cowardice”:
  • “Either you, he's the face, he's, he's the face now of the cowardice around this whole thing...for someone who's been that great to not get in as a first ballot, it's a disservice to your game.”—Peter Rosenberg (31:36)
• On Cashman's filibustering press style:
  • “Cashman’s voice is the music. He's his own Play it out music...it's sleepy time Bobos.”—Peter Rosenberg (07:17)
• On shutting down the NHL for Olympics:
  • “...there could be seasons lost because of what happens during that three week shutdown.”—Don (25:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Knicks trade calls & Giannis debate: 00:13–06:00
• Yankees “running it back” discussion: 06:00–19:26
• Fan psychology, loud minority issue: 19:35–22:45
• That Guy Thursday – Don on Olympics: 23:26–27:04
• Alan & Peter: Hall of Fame/Belichick: 29:07–37:19
• Pop culture & Royal Rumble talk: 37:46–41:05

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Tone & Style

Light-hearted, banter-driven, with classic New York sports radio energy. The hosts are candid, occasionally self-deprecating, and irreverent but always insightful. The segment is a mix of earnest sports debate, meta-commentary on fandom and media, and inside-joke camaraderie.

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Recap for the Uninitiated

If you missed the show, you’d come away knowing:

• Knicks fans and hosts alike urge caution in chasing Giannis, favoring health and cohesion over mortgaging the future.
• The Yankees’ “running it back” reflects pragmatic roster management, even if fans clamor for splashier moves.
• Brian Cashman’s leadership and media dance frustrate some, amuse others.
• The show deconstructs how the loudest, most negative fans set the agenda—despite often not representing the majority.
• “That Guy Thursday” spotlights Don’s internal wrestling with Olympic hockey, and the Hall of Fame’s jumbled Belichick snub draws sharp criticism from the panel.
• The vibe is equal parts sports bar and therapy couch, with pop-culture laughs and fiercely loyal New York energy.

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Memorable Moment:
“It's the happy being miserable that I think happens with not just Yankees fans.” — Alan Hahn (21:22)

“Either you, he's the face now of the cowardice around this whole thing.” — Peter Rosenberg on Bill Belichick’s HoF snub (31:36)

For More:
Hear the full dynamics and more of the crew’s jokes—and catch Peter dissecting the Royal Rumble/March Madness analogy—by listening to the full episode.

Transcript

[Don Hahn]

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[Michael Kay]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

402 in the big city with Don Lakreka and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800 now, 193776 is the number. We have that guy Thursday, bottom of the hour. We have Damian Woody at 5:30, and we have you and your calls at 800 now, 193776 here. We'll get into some Yankees momentarily, but let's get through a few more of these Knicks calls regarding Giannis and regarding the idea of standing pat and saying we believe in this team or biting the bullet and saying if Giannis is going to get traded, we can't afford to see him go to another team. We got to get him. Let's go to George in the Lower east side coming up next. Hey, George.

[George (Caller)]

Hey, what's going on, fellas? Listen, Allen, I love your take on Bridges, you know, after the game. Honestly, I think that that was a message. I think that right now it is. It's very clear that things are not going right with Brown. I don't like the calling out of players in the public eye. I think that some of that stuff needs to stay in house and I think that Mattel is letting us know that he's actually being traded and being moved, and I think that that's the worst case scenario. Giannis is a phenomenal player. You don't get called the freak for, you know, being a mid player, but at the same time, he is turning 31. His Achilles is going to burst real quick. And I think that if we got to trade anybody, and it has to be Cat, I think that there are some, some players out there, Jeremy Jackson included, where we could get a first pick for him, but we got to build around the team. And Sadiq Bay is another name and Jose Alvarado. Those are three players that I think we need to bring in. Giannis is not the one and had better teams over there in Milwaukee and has done less with them. So I think right now we stay pat. If we got to move Cat, then we move them for a better package.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, George. I mean, thanks for the call.

[Michael Kay]

I get it, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't know if I read that in Bridges. Did you? That he's not happy with, with. He said I wasn't being coachable. Right. That's what he was. That's what he said.

[Michael Kay]

I, I took it as the opposite of the caller. Yeah, that he was putting it on himself that the message wasn't getting there, and now it's starting to get very much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In other words, that call, I. I hate to say there's a lovely guy, but it sounds like what we're saying is potentially we take down the sign in the studio, and that's. That's a horrible phone call. I mean, if everyone on the show got it precisely wrong. Well, couldn't.

[Michael Kay]

What.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What makes it a worse call.

[Michael Kay]

But I like this Giannis take. But I didn't know the Bridges take.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the show?

[Michael Kay]

I'm just saying a bad call means it was a bad. You. You can't have some good aspects.

[Alan Hahn]

Good point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, fine, fine.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. It's. If. If multi. Benevolent judge, multiple takes are bad, one of them, one good one doesn't make up for it. Flavio in Brooklyn. Flavio, you're up next.

[Michael Kay]

What's up, baby?

[Flavio (Caller)]

Hey, how's it going? Don, Alan and Peter. So I.

[Alan Hahn]

In the.

[Flavio (Caller)]

On the side that I don't want to trade for Giannis. Now, Alan, you kind of touched on it earlier about. I think it was like the second apron. I know that was going to heavily impact the Knicks, you know, for the following year, and I just don't want this to happen.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Flavio (Caller)]

I think if we're going to trade for somebody, I would rather, you know, touch around the bench. The previous call has mentioned Jose Alvarado. I know he's a guy from Queens. I need somebody like that, you know, kind of like a bulldog mentality. If we are going to be trading for Cat. If we are going to be trading Cat, I. Which I really do not want because, I mean, this man was like a demon on the.

[Michael Kay]

On the board.

[Flavio (Caller)]

Yes.

[Michael Kay]

Yesterday.

[Alan Hahn]

With 22 rebounds. Yeah.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah.

[Flavio (Caller)]

And he cashed me in with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's it called.

[Flavio (Caller)]

Plus 750 for 16 rebounds yesterday. And I was very grateful for that. But, you know, I. I don't want him to be traded just because, like, you know, Giannis, the whole cash injury. My sister ended up hearing her Achilles playing soccer, and I just, you know, I. I just don't want that to be happening. You know, calf injuries are very sensitive now, and I feel like they're a little bit more frequent, and I just feel like, you know, getting somebody that's compromised, like, you know, we. If he gets hurt on. On our watch, then we're screwed. So.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah, that's the. To me, again, the calf injuries change everything. I thought, right, guys, like, I feel like that Just adds another layer to the, the reason to hit the pause button.

[Michael Kay]

No. Unless, like you said, it's performative out of Giannis to get a deal done. I just don't want to have to play and you find out it's not that serious. But, you know, that, that, that would be a character flaw to me. That'd be a red flag to me. I mean, I don't want to. I'm not going to sit there and pretend to be an altar boy, but I, I'm. That would be really bad guy level. If you're, you know, lying about an injury to try to make get a deal done, that's not cool.

[Alan Hahn]

One thing I want to point out about Towns, he's having a bad year. He's having a down year for him, right? He's. He leads the league in rebounding and he leads the league in double doubles, but it's a bad year. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's amazing to say those things, like he's the best rebounder in the NBA and he also has the most double doubles of anyone in the NBA. And yet this is a bad year. All right, we'll get back to this, the Knicks conversation later on. So those who are still on hold, we'll get to you. But we're getting the sense from the majority of people that they don't want to see the Knicks be desperate here. That's what the guys are saying on the show as well. So it seems like we all kind of have a consensus right now, but it's a story we'll certainly keep an eye on. In the meantime, guys, the Yankees, their roster is complete now. We know what they are with Cody Bellinger now in the fold. And there's a phrase that's being thrown around with Bellinger being one of them that said it, which is about the idea of how he's happy to be running it back back with the team. And it's a very similar roster to last year's team that wasn't quite good enough. So Brian Cashman had a problem with the idea of the Knicks looking like they're running it back. Here's what he said.

[Brian Cashman (quoted)]

Yankees, it's not the same roster. I would differ there. You know, we have some players at some point returning from the IL that are important players, Garrett Cole being obviously one of them. But we've had some additions, you know, from the second half that got their feet wet with the Yankees, some with success, some with failures or success. But, you know, once they'll now Be in a position to join us with their feet on the ground and getting their tea legs under them, you know, with a fully with the manager, too, learning how to utilize.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, you can go ahead and fade that out.

[Michael Kay]

No, I get it. I, I don't mind.

[Alan Hahn]

I agreed with it.

[Anthony (Caller)]

I wanted to make sure if you guys wanted to hear it, but I, I just, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Peter, do you approve of the use of the play it out music on this one?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, listen, guys, I always approve of the, not as much as Don, who would rather, he'd rather play the Play it out music than ever even hear the person. But I, I generally, Well, I, I.

[Michael Kay]

Was, that's what I was going to say, Peter. I thought if, if we, we, we went to Cashman and you just heard the music, I think you would have approved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's fine. I mean, Cashman, Cashman's voice is the music. He's his own Play it out music like he literally, it's sleepy time Bobos.

[Michael Kay]

Right At the, at the Oscars in February. They should play a sound bite of Cashman when they need you to be done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You want to get people, you want to get people to wrap it up. Just hear that monotone voice, you know, it's going to go on for 40, 50 seconds. I mean, listen, I, I, I niksho days, I always yearn for the occasional Hal Steinbrenner call because Hal would like, give us a little something like he, you know, and Cashman's a master of the filibuster. He just goes and goes and you rarely get anything.

[Michael Kay]

That's why I think if Brian ever heard us talk about this, at least I hope he would take it as a compliment because it's very strategic. He does that. He reduces the number of questions you ask, and he kind of lulls you into a place that he wants you to be. I mean, so that's why he does it, because I've talked to him. He's an engaging guy, he's a fun guy, but he knows how to get the most of an interview by take, you know, giving you the least he possibly can. But I don't know why he's so sensitive about the running it back, why that's pejorative. Why couldn't he just say, hey, listen, we're running it back? Because we had a damn good team last year that literally came within one game of being the Blue Jays, right? They tied the Blue Jays, the Blue Jays had the, the tiebreaker, and the Blue Jays went to game seven of the World Series. So I Don't know if the Yankees would have done that, but they would have had the opportunity had they had the tiebreaker, won one more game, they win the division, they've got the easier path, and they might be back in the World Series. And you're talking about a team that's gone to back to back World Series. Why are you blowing it up? But he's playing semantics or we're getting Cole back. Oh, we have the guys that we acquired during the season, like Jazz. All right, but when we say running it back, we're talking about running it back with the team that you had down the stretch.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, right.

[Michael Kay]

We're talking about McMahon, McGann at first, the third base. We're talking about jazz at second or wherever you end up playing them. That's what we're talking about. And Bellinger was using it as a compliment, like Happy were running it back. Because he's saying, I want to be a part of this team. I like the direction his team is going. What is so wrong with that? Now fans are going to look at it as a negative because they didn't add anything because fans want an All Star at every position. But why couldn't Brian just own the fact that this is the team he likes? Because then later on he goes, hey, I defy anybody to say this isn't a championship roster. So why are you even arguing about the running it back? Why not double down on it.

[Alan Hahn]

If you really.

[Michael Kay]

Since when do you care what the fans think anyway?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he does. We know he does. Right. And by the way, if they ever do a remake of Ferris Bueller's Day off, he certainly can do the Bueller. Bueller. Like he's got. That's the voice that he's got.

[Michael Kay]

What was his name again? He had a game show.

[Alan Hahn]

He was. Yeah, yeah, Peter, you remember his name. Ended up making some money. Did pretty well. Couple.

[Michael Kay]

I got to look it up. But yeah, because he was like. Wasn't he like, a writer for Nixon? He could have been Peter's dad, but on a Democrat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But not a writer for Nixon.

[Alan Hahn]

But not.

[Michael Kay]

But I'm saying your dad was the Democratic version of. Why can't I think of his name now? Oh, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Bueller. Hello, Bueller. He's sick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why am I spacing on his name, too? Come on, Don.

[Alan Hahn]

Don's got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When Ben Stein.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, Money. That was, that was the show.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, so.

[Michael Kay]

But your dad was the Democratic Ben Stein.

[Alan Hahn]

Right, but he was, he was much more entertaining.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I, I, I never give my dad's Leanings on the show, you know that.

[Michael Kay]

But McGovern, you know, it doesn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not hard to look up Don. The kids are so young. I don't even know who McGovern is, but it says it in the drop. Let's say it.

[Alan Hahn]

McGovern, Democrat for the people. For the people. For the people.

[Michael Kay]

Sometimes we got to beat our listeners.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Over to head, but honest to God, I can honestly say I think underrated. We've never discussed this. I think that's the RJ Santillo vehicle. And I think it's one of the most brilliant polls of all time because I didn't know it existed. So there was. That didn't come from anything except. Except Michael making fun of my dad for working from a govern. And then one day, RJ just dropping the audio of the real commercial from like. And we lost it. That was a moment, Alan. Picture that out of nowhere. You're just getting. I'm getting ragged on it for no reason. And then you just hear that clearly. 1971, two commercial. Ah, a moment in time.

[Alan Hahn]

And how do you lose to Nixon? Let's be honest, Like, they're like throttled now. Isn't that such a mad dog thing? I mean, how do you lose? How do you lose to Nixon?

[Michael Kay]

Come on, McGovern. Get your act together, McGovern. It'll sit right there for you.

[Alan Hahn]

They got a right better scraps. Guy should have won.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's another. That's another one of my. My friend Zach who grew up here. That's one of my friends. Zach's favorite all time Mike and Chris moments is when he heard them having a legitimate argument over presidents and doing it exactly like that. Like, you know, and no one talks about Harding, Mikey.

[Alan Hahn]

There's nothing better than if you just create their arguments or their debates. But put like over any historic moments.

[Michael Kay]

That maybe, maybe if Taft had a salad now and then.

[Alan Hahn]

So, but, but, but on the Yankee front, getting back to that, if I may, if you think about it, what they thought was going to be a team that built off of a World Series appearance they never really got to see because of the Cole injury. And then you add to it. Hold my call. If you add to it the fact that they did make adjustments to the roster mid season that everybody realized this team needs to get more athletic. They need the things they needed to do midseason, it looked like they finally addressed, you know, third base. Like all that stuff to me was addressed during the season, right? So when you look at them in totality, what is it. Other than everybody wanted them to do something with Volpe, what is it that they're lacking? Right. What are they lacking?

[Michael Kay]

It.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's what I want to know. What's not good enough?

[Michael Kay]

I think what they lacked and they tried to address. We'll see if it's enough, is to just button it up. The fundamentals, right. That's why they lost the Dodgers. They're kicking the ball around. Poor decisions run into bases. And that's why you try to strengthen the defense by bringing in Jazz and bringing in McCann at third base. Like you were trying to address that. Because that was the problem.

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Michael Kay]

I mean, listen, the offense always seems to disappear in the postseason. We know that they've addressed that. They. But the offense of the regular season, it seems to be more than enough. But they just didn't seem mentally like they were in the game. They seem to change that, and we'll see if. If that continues to move forward this year. But I remember you, like in the middle of last season, you were screaming that they didn't address the problem because they were still kicking the ball around, losing games, because they just weren't. They weren't mentally sound. But did you feel like that improved in the second half?

[Alan Hahn]

I felt like it did go away. It was. The Volpe thing took on a life of its own because he had the yips for a while and then we didn't know was the shoulder injury real or not? So you had that going on. You know, Jazz. Moving Jazz off third just seemed to be something you had to do. McMahon Definitely, you know, calmed that down, but didn't have the bat, you know. By the way, did you see that they're entertaining the idea of bringing Goldschmidt back? Yes, because he doesn't really. He hasn't gotten any. Any.

[Michael Kay]

Well, why? Well, why not? I mean, you have a first baseman, but you're telling me that he can't be a bat off the bench, play.

[Alan Hahn]

First base occasionally and you don't have to play him. Right. Like, if Ben Rice is your main guy, then if you have Goldschmidt and he's there, why not? I guess. But, you know, it does. You do have the versatility of Bellinger. But it'd be interesting because that's really running it back if you, if you bring him back at a cheap contract, one year type of deal.

[Michael Kay]

But what.

[Alan Hahn]

Tell me you're not running it back.

[Michael Kay]

Listen, I've. I've been at odds with Cashmere, and I generally agree with the fans when they rip Brian but if you, if you ran it back and then you have Cole, it should be good enough. Why wouldn't it be good enough? As two years ago when they went to game five of the World Series and they should be more buttoned up defensively. Caballero could steal the job from. From Volpe and that. Correct. Short. Right. You're better defensively at third. You figure out not having to play stand in the outfield.

[Alan Hahn]

Why like again, I don't. That's why. I don't know what is the outrage over running it back.

[Michael Kay]

Because that's what Yankee fans. And I'm not faulting him for this, but it's just a fact that when they fall short, they want major change. I went to the World Series. They lost Juan Soto. That's the other thing too. You went to the World Series, you lost. Juan Soto still went to the playoffs. You've got to make the big bold move when you come up short sometimes. Hey, we got Cole coming back. We got Rendon coming back. We've made some adjustments to the bullpen. We're going to have the guys we had in the second half all year. So we should be better to. I understand the knee jerk reaction to rip Bryan, but what did you want to get? The biggest thing during this offseason was to make sure you kept Bellinger. They did. And we talked about it yesterday. Peter. That he was very complimentary. Brian. On Hal. I think from a PR standpoint like, hey, Hal stepped up. We gave him the extra year. We didn't lose Bellinger. What was out there? Were you going. Who are you going to get? Who is the guy that you wanted that they didn't get?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah. And that you really could have gotten.

[Michael Kay]

That was. That was realistic. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it's better to just leave it alone and let the team that you thought last year could be something and then added to it that maybe just say give this team a chance. I still don't like the approach. I don't like. That's all the other stuff. The but that's philosophy.

[Michael Kay]

That's not going to change.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't like any of it. But. Right. It doesn't mean that this team once they get healthy. And by the way, let's remind everybody they're not going to be healthy out of the gate. We know this. But if they could get it on track with health, with a healthy roster going into August into September, then I need to see what it looks like that. That's why I don't. I don't have A problem with running it back this year, the Grisham thing. All right, so you got. You got got. But if he can just give you another season like he did last year, and he should, because he should be motivated with the fact that, okay, I took my qualifier, but I'm going to be a free agent, so I need to keep putting numbers up. If you can still get another good.

[Michael Kay]

Year out of him, great.

[Alan Hahn]

If you don't, okay, now you're. You got a problem. But that was the only one of the off season that made you, made you like.

[Michael Kay]

That was a miscalculation on his.

[Alan Hahn]

But it didn't cost them, Bellinger. I was worried it might, but it didn't. They still were able to keep him.

[Michael Kay]

So it didn't cost you anything. Yeah, I mean, it cost you. Was it 21 point, whatever. But that was a philosophy, Peter. That was just a miscalculation.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it was.

[Michael Kay]

And he thought he wouldn't take it. He took it. But. But if he puts up the numbers he put up last year, then nobody's going to complain about it. If he reverts back to what he was early in his career, then that's gonna be a problem.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's get a couple calls in on this. 800-919-3776 on the Yankees. And Frank in Westchester, he's happy with running it back.

[Frank (Caller)]

Yes, I am. Good afternoon, everybody.

[Alan Hahn]

Good afternoon, Frank.

[Michael Kay]

How are you, sir? Hey.

[Frank (Caller)]

Yeah, so, like, I take exception with, with only one thing you said. You guys, like, you got my blood boiling, and then you dialed it back. Talk about Yankee fans want a superstar. That's horse crap. I feel like that's. That's the extremes that live on sports radio. That's not the average Yankee fan. I'm a partial season ticket older and I consider myself a big fan. And, yeah, there's some things I wasn't excited about. Grisham and I know we got to work out. You know, Volpe, you got to figure out if he's going to hit or not. Have you got the yips if it's a shoulder, what the issue is? But I'm all for running this team back for every reason you guys said. And the only thing I take exception with is, like, this belief that Yankee fans want a superstar at every location.

[Michael Kay]

I don't want to win that way. I can only live in the world that I'm in. And being on a show with Michael K. Where we talked a lot of Yankees, even on this show last year, the people that call are those people now, maybe they're the vocal minority. They probably are. We need more callers like you people that look at it a little bit more logically. I'm not telling you not to be upset, but sometimes I think at least the Yankee fans that call and tweet, they get irrational. And we can only react to those because that's what we hear all the time. Right, Peter? That's all we heard on the Michael K Show at least.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And everywhere. I mean, come on, it's the Yankee fan way.

[Michael Kay]

We. Again, I keep reverting back to this, but, Alan, you weren't there. Just that whole year, the judge was breaking the American League record for home runs, and most of the conversation was, why is Joey Gallo on this team? That's all we heard all the time, all we talked. Dude, don't focus on that. He's a bad player. I get it. But you're like 20 games above.500. Stop. But it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the happy. It's the happy being miserable that I think happens with not just Yankees fans. I do think there's a loud minority of New York.

[Michael Kay]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

That are just happy being miserable because it's the easiest way to do it. Even in the good times. You've, like, I always joked that if, like, like the Knicks win the NBA championship, the next day, someone will go, well, they're not going to win two in a row because of this and this and like, you know what I mean? Like, instead of just enjoy. You can't ever just be happy the Knicks or have optimism.

[Michael Kay]

The Knicks are one of the perfect examples of what you hear from callers isn't necessarily what the fan base feels.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Michael Kay]

Was Carmelo Anthony. We would take phone calls all day. Mellows a cancer. You can never win with Melo. Blah, blah, blah. And meanwhile, I'd watch Knick games, and every time Mellow touches the ball, the building was like, electric and they were cheering them and now they want their number retired. Yeah, because it's the. It's the vocal minority of fans because, let's face it, just like social media, you're probably going to call to complain more, to call and rave about your team. Right? You're going to find something to complain about. That's usually what moves the needle. Finding the negative. We're guilty of it, too. Sometimes we'll lead with the bad story than the good story because we know the reaction to the bad is going to be way better than the reaction to the good.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, the calamity. Right. That's. That's What?

[Michael Kay]

No, you're right.

[Alan Hahn]

Love to live in that world.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm talking about the yo yos who.

[Michael Kay]

Set themselves on fire and bathe in.

[Don Hahn]

Pork and beans or know that one.

[Michael Kay]

Person I'm here with, my family who.

[Don Hahn]

Can'T help but be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not cool. His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.

[Don Hahn]

That guy.

[Michael Kay]

I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that.

[Don Hahn]

It's time for that Guy Thursday.

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, guys. Anyone want to play some ball with.

[Don Hahn]

Ton, Hahn and Rosenberg?

[Michael Kay]

He's just being that guy. It's our bestie. That gets you every time, doesn't it? It's so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, it's so good. Bathe in pork and beans.

[Alan Hahn]

I know.

[Michael Kay]

What is that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How does he.

[Michael Kay]

How.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How does he do it?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that guy Thursday. And I don't even want to waste any time because Don said he has a big one. Yeah. Which it's always good to brag about. So let us know. What do you got?

[Michael Kay]

Well, that guy Thursday. My. That guy is me. I'm that guy. I am that guy because I was always the guy that would fight with Michael K. Oh, you're missing out on the Olympic hockey, man. It's just so good seeing the best on best and America versus Canada, and it just. It's so much fun. Yeah. Shut down the league. I get it. Because you got to do it because the players want to do it, and you want the relationship with the. The. The PA so that you have no problems with any CBA or lockouts or strikes. No, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. And listen, I'll watch it, and I'll be into it like I am every Olympics. But I got to tell you, as we're getting closer and closer to it, I'm not feeling it, man. I am not feeling it, because I'm watching the hockey that's getting played right now and how wide open these races are and how important the regular season is. Now we're getting closer to the trade deadline. Teams are starting to make moves. There's a bunch of teams in the Eastern Conference that could actually make runs, and we're going to shut it down for 18 days to go play in the Olympics for games. Are going to be at 2 o' clock in the morning. Like I was all for. It was in Salt Lake, in Vancouver. The games were at a normal time. And I was talking about with John Forsland when I was in Seattle. And John Forsland, one of the voices of TNT and he's the television voice of the, the Kraken, is that we don't know what this is going to look like when we come back. Guys, there's going to be like 25 games left. Who's going to get hurt in the Olympics? Who's going to be stale coming out of the Olympics? I mean there could be seasons lost because of what happens during that three week shutdown. And the league's got to sell it, right? So guys get hurt. Like when Jack Hughes got hurt in Chicago and cut his finger. Oh, he's gonna be out four to six weeks. Don't worry. He'll be back for the Olympics. I don't care about the Olympics. I want to be back for the Devils. I want him scoring for the Devils like you. Don't you see that, Alan? Sometimes it's like all. But everybody says he'll be ready for Team Canada. He'll play.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Michael Kay]

I'm sorry. I think it's important. I understand the logic of it and I will probably watch because I'm that guy. But right now, as we sit on January 29, I'm way more excited about these regular season games and how important they are for a lot of teams. I understand Rangers are out of it. So Anthony Pusick may have a different opinion because his team's out of it. And if I'm a Blackhawk fan or if I'm a Vancouver Canuck fan, I might be looking forward to it. But I love the NHL. I love the NHL's regular season. It's not broken like in some sports. And this year more than any other, especially with the games being in Italy and in hearing that the arena is not ready and all. I'm good. I'm that guy because I'll watch. That's why I'm that guy. And I've always been very supportive of the Olympics. But this year it just doesn't feel that important to me. And shutting down what's been a tremendous regular season to me is not going to be fun. Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a take. But I agree with you. That's the hardest part about it. And the difference in the NHL playing in the Olympics versus the NBA is the NBA plays in the summer, so it doesn't. No effect on the season, you don't really think about it. So when they are playing in places where the live game is going on and it's, you know, it's mid afternoon here, like, you don't really seem to care, but you do worry about losing a player in the Olympics, especially if you have hopes that your team's going to be good. And I think that's a big part of it as well. Like you, like I. I love that they playing, but I don't want my guy to get hurt or don't rush back from an injury just so you can play in the Olympics when you probably wouldn't have rushed back if it was a regular season.

[Michael Kay]

Now that's been, that's been happening a lot, too. And listen, guys, that's why I said I'm that guy, because I'll be watching and I'll find myself getting into it. And if it ends up being Canada, US like it was the Four nations, it might be a home run, but it also could be Sweden and Finland and no one's going to care.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Michael Kay]

And we're all twiddling our thumbs waiting for the damn regular season to start back up again.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Michael Kay]

And then you'll come back and go, oh, well, it's a big game tonight for the Islanders, but, you know, I'm just trying to think of who, who could be out there because it won't be Soroka and there's no Russian team, but you know what I'm saying? Like, all right, like the Devils, like, the Devils are going to need it. Oh, but Jack's not going to play the first couple of games back because his knee was sore because he blocked a shot against Sweden. And these important games coming out of the break, he might be like, those are the things that are going to be accentuated if it ends up being, you know, Switzerland versus Latvia in the final. But if it ends up being Canada in the USA and you get a great game like you did back in the day with the Four nations, it could be looked upon a lot differently. But I just feel like people that are really into this regular season are not looking forward to this break.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, let's hope that it is everything he said it said it could be. Because what we saw last year at Four nations was so much better. But it also helped that those games were, of course, here in North America.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Those games are prime time.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. But Don, I wouldn't call you that guy, but I like the accountability. You're following the lead from Mikhail Bridges last night, and I absolutely Love it. I have that guy. It's an obvious one. It's my ability to bring back a conversation that we were having yesterday so we can include Peter in this. Okay, so the, that guy, what I miss that that guy is Bill Polio. Oh, yeah. So we can't get the story straight now, right? We just can't get it straight. So first he tells Don Van Nada that he can't remember with 100% certainty if he voted for Bill Belichick to be in the hall of Fame. And Peter, I know this is nothing. Breaking news now because Bill parcels. Bill Belichick will not be in the hall of Fame as a first ballot head coach despite six championships and everything else on his resume. And the story, as it goes for those who might not have seen this at ESPN had the story is simply that there were some people in the voting process that had a discussion and some indications whether Polian was the one that was pushing this, saying, you know, he should serve penance and wait a year because of Spygate and Deflategate. And that's again, now you're having a God complex. So he first says that he can't remember. But what's weird is that he also did an interview with SI and si, he said, that's totally and categorically untrue. And the quote, I voted for him, end quote. Which do we believe? Are you changing your story over the, over the criticism? Is anybody going to have the sack to step forward and say, you know what? Like, in a way, Don, as I was thinking about this and Peter, you know, again, you haven't had a chance to have a take on this, but it's like, can't somebody who said I don't think he should have been in just step forward and say, you know what? I don't think he should have been in. You guys can all disagree with me, but I think when you preside over something like Spygate, that is something that is a, it's a mark on the game. He got punished for it by the league, which shows you it was pretty serious. And, you know, we need to, we need to acknowledge it. Just have the stones to say that. But no one will but Polian kind of go misremembering you being that guy, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Either you, he's the face, he's, he's the face now of the cowardice around this whole thing. And you guys know, bad. Look, I have no love for Bill Belichick. No whatsoever. I, I, he throttled my team 52 to 7. I'll never forget it. He, I thought he could be a bad sport. Thought he was a nozzle with the media. Thought he's made a complete fool out of himself the last two years with this 16 year old girlfriend or 21, whatever the hell she is. The whole thing I think has just been. He's not covered himself in glory the last couple years. There's no question about it. It has not been a great post run. Tom Brady goes to Tampa, wins the Super Bowl. Brady looks like a complete buffoon chasing around a college age girlfriend. The whole thing's been weird. He goes North Carolina, it's Alan. We had a moment where he thought it's going the right direction. That'll get bombed the next week. It's not happening. It's terrible. All of that being said, Spygate, name it, they're all that guy for this guy not being a first ballot hall of Famer, he. It does not change the fact that in my opinion, I think he's hands down the best in game football coach of all time. There's. We watched him do it over and over again, guys, that Patriots team, it varied in levels of talent. I don't think at any point it was the most talented super bowl teams we've ever seen. Those teams were brilliantly coached. And I would still argue to this day, even though Brady went and got the ring without Belichick, that without Bill Belichick, there is no Tom Brady. I truly believe that. To me, whatever the reason was that they decided you better have a damn good one. And you're right, Alan, we should know what it is for someone who's been that great to not get in as a first ballot, it's a disservice to your game. He is the coaching face of the modern era of football and you made him look like a yo yo. Now, normally for Eli Manning not to go in first time around, two time super bowl champion, whatever.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But this is the greatest coach of the modern era, period. And maybe, and I think many would argue the greatest to ever do it. To me, the whole thing is that guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, just to add to it, there was one member of the media who was a voter representing the Kansas City Chiefs. He's a Kansas City Star columnist Vay Gregorian. He said he did not vote for Bill Belichick, but he said it was not to do with Spygate and all that other stuff. And he said that, you know, there was this idea that people were trying to talk other voters into doing things. He said none of that stuff ultimately influenced my vote. That's what he said. What he said the reason why he didn't vote was because he felt, he said, duty bound to vote for the richly deserving seniors who most likely won't ever have a hearing again as more senior candidates enter the pool and fresh cases get made for others. And he said Belichick is inevitable soon as he should be. But he said, at the risk of contradicting my own vote, really, he shouldn't even have to wait. And he understands why people are offended. He wrote this column in the Kansas City Star. He said that he felt more compelled by what I perceive to be the last chances and looming lost causes within the system as we have it. A system I hope the hall will see fit to change now. So his explanation for not giving them the vote was, as we were talking about yesterday, Don, that it's like, well, he's probably going to get in. I want to give these other guys votes because they might not have a chance to get in later.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's reasonable.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that the right way to do this though?

[Michael Kay]

No, because it affects someone else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't you think, Don, Everyone votes. Everyone has their own way of voting and their own way of deciding when is appropriate, when is not. I don't know that we're allowed to decide and sort of be the moral police on when you're supposed to vote for someone. If he feels we're going to lose these people, then I understand wanting to vote for them.

[Alan Hahn]

At least they deserve to stay in it. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a reason and he's, and he's putting his name with it. I don't hate that, Don.

[Michael Kay]

Alright? No, I, I, well, the fact that he came forward, I think you got to show some respect. It shows you the system's broken. That somebody would have to do that in order to get Elsie Greenwood into the hall of Fame or Roger Craig into the hall of Fame. Those were a couple of people that he had mentioned that he didn't want to get passed over and he figured, I'll sacrifice the guy not getting into first ballot. But are you telling me the other 10 that voted against them all did it for the same reason? All right, so that explains one of the 11.

[Alan Hahn]

There you go. Right.

[Michael Kay]

But if all 11 came forward and said that that was the reason, I'd say, well, we got to figure something else out. But for some reason I don't think that'll be an issue when Tom Brady's up who's considered the greatest quarterback of all time. But when the greatest head coach of all time who wasn't nearly as likable as Tom. All of a sudden, it became an issue. All right, I didn't expect every. I didn't expect it to be unanimous. There's always gonna be one or two guys. That's why you don't have to go in at 100%.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Michael Kay]

But what's the excuse of the other 10? Well, why aren't they coming forward?

[Alan Hahn]

The Belichick 10 need to step forward.

[Michael Kay]

So it sounds to me the majority of those 10 probably did it because they were persuaded by Polian, who looks like a really bad guy.

[Alan Hahn]

But the easy thing for them to all to do now is just follow. Follow what Gregorian said and just said. I felt the same way. All right, well, that. That guy Thursday. This was a good one. Really good one. Don himself on the stand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was. That was a lot.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

Midnight at the Oasis. Isn't that where you are? Isn't it midnight at the Oasis right now for you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It is nearly 1am at the Oasis.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it's after midnight at the Oasis, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the point is, it's late at the Oasis. Okay?

[Alan Hahn]

It is very late at the Oasis. This was covered in a movie, wasn't it? Wasn't this. Was this, like. Was this in the Wedding Singer or something?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was in Lost in Translation.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought I heard this, like, as one of the. Like. It was obviously. Whatever. It doesn't matter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Prom scene. In a prom scene in America.

[Alan Hahn]

American Pie. Maybe that's what it was. All I know is that that song was for you because you're staying up past night for us to be part of the show. And we. We thank you for it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I enjoyed it. I'm gonna join. Be back on again tomorrow at the top of the show.

[Anthony (Caller)]

Peter, why are you in Saudi Arabia again?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, Anthony, I'm so glad, because if you have ESPN Unlimited, Anthony, that means on Saturday at 2:00, clock, you can watch the Royal Rumble on ESPN Unlimited. Now the Countdown show, which I'm on, starts at 12 noon. You catch that on ESPN Unlimited or on YouTube, wherever you feel like getting it. And then we roll right into the Rumble, which is, Anthony, as you know, in the. In the eyes of many, as. As exciting an event as exists on the wrestling calendar. Some put it above Mania.

[Anthony (Caller)]

So we tried.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like that.

[Anthony (Caller)]

We tried we, we equated, obviously, Don and Allen not as big wrestling fans or fans at all. Not quite equated the Super bowl to WrestleMania. And Jacob and I tried to comp what the Royal Rumble was. I said divisional round of the NFL.

[Michael Kay]

Weekend, I believe is conference championship weekend.

[Anthony (Caller)]

And it doesn't have to be football. Just what is the comp. Where do you comp it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's one of the best questions you've ever asked.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I, I tend, I tend to go, I tend to go with Jacob and it being like conference championship, like, but, but it also. There are some people who would call it the super bowl just because the, the way it's done with the 30 entrance in each match and the countdown and the surprises and you don't know who's showing up. It's. It's different. Like, it is the one event that brings people back. Like, even when I lived, when me and Ballard used to live together, none of those guys who I lived with, Bal and Elliott, they didn't have any interest in wrestling. But when the Royal Rumble would come on, they'd be like, oh, we watch Royal Rumble. Let's drink. Let's all, let's all drink some beers and watch the Rumble. Like, it's just like you, you could have not watched wrestling for 20 years.

[Alan Hahn]

Is it the, Is it like a, like March Madness? Is it your, Is it your NCAA Tournament? Not. Obviously, it doesn't take six weeks to complete, but you know, it's sort of like I haven't watched college basketball all year, but I'm watching this. Right? Is that kind of what it is?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a.

[Alan Hahn]

So it's not super bowl, right? Because Mania is Super Bowl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because WrestleMania has to be the Super Bowl. It's the, it's the culmination.

[Alan Hahn]

But the NCAA Tournament, like March Madness.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like that.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the next biggest event that we have, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, No, I like that as a take. In fact, you can hear me talk about it tomorrow at 9:15 on get up. I think you'll really enjoy.

[Alan Hahn]

Really? Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

More I'm in up the seat for Alan Hahn as he gets ready for his vaunted return to get up second.

[Alan Hahn]

Half of the season next week. And by the way, I want to.

[Michael Kay]

Get on get up one day.

[Alan Hahn]

And on your chest you can. Why couldn't you.

[Michael Kay]

I got on first. I, I got. I, I got a. What would that, what would that go. It was like a I feel sorry for you moment in first take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We all did well.

[Michael Kay]

No, no.

[Alan Hahn]

But no I, I, I, it was.

[Michael Kay]

It was a mercy book. Oh, on first. No, no, it was because it was because they were doing all the radio shows, so Michael got to do it, and it was. It was Rick, Peter and me. They, they, they, they took three people because they're like, we can't have just Don, and we can't have just Don or Rick or just Don and Peter because Don looks awful and his takes are even worse.

[Alan Hahn]

So.

[Michael Kay]

But we have to have. Monique been at the station for 20 years.

[Alan Hahn]

Was you. Were you repug Don at this time? Because Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Michael Kay]

I was. Boy, I might have just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Plugged on.

[Alan Hahn]

There he is. He couldn't have been replaced.

[Michael Kay]

Pug Dong, Whatever it was Peter, they felt sorry for me. They had to put me on. But they put me on with two other radio. It was the only first they were doing that had multiple radio hosts.

[Alan Hahn]

No, they were doing that back then because they had me.

[Michael Kay]

Yeah, one person. Just Michael K. Or just whoever. They put three. They had to have two buffers for me.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, we're gonna. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what.

[Michael Kay]

I don't need them. I don't want them. I'll say no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you want to let unavailable, this started. Hold on. This segment started with. This all started Allen with him going, I want to go on get up. And it ended with him going, you know what?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want it.

[Michael Kay]

Let Bristol know I'm unavailable, but I don't have to worry about that. They'll never, they would never put me because I'm a hockey guy.

[Alan Hahn]

He gave him the Heisman.

[Michael Kay]

16 years doing jets.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so you don't want to be on first. You don't want to be on get up. We can get you on. Get up a little bit.

[Michael Kay]

We can.

[Alan Hahn]

Once we get into, like, the, you know, the teeth of the hockey maybe you know what? See Olympics. Did you hear?

[Michael Kay]

He did it again. Did you hear? You're one of them. That's the problem, Alan. You're one of them.

[Alan Hahn]

Wait a minute.

[Michael Kay]

Oh, well, we'll get you on.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, watch your mouth when it's because I'm not on during football season.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's getting off.

[Michael Kay]

Don has no other takes on anything else.

[Alan Hahn]

Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Because the same thing happens with the NBA. I have to sit and watch football on that show forever, and now they're calling me. Now they want me. The Super Bowl's over.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that is true.

[Alan Hahn]

How many dates could you give? They don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They don't they don't bring Allen in for just football.

[Michael Kay]

They.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're all. There's always basketball there.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, man.

[Michael Kay]

So it's the same bringing them in.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the.

[Michael Kay]

But it's the same thing bringing them in.

[Alan Hahn]

And now with the Olympics, it's a perfect time for Don Juan legreca to come on and talk about hockey.

[Michael Kay]

I love happening in the middle of the day. Hockey guy. But when I get described as a hockey guy, it. It's. It's at the level of you suck insult to me. When I. When I. When I'm referred to that way. Oh, Don, he's a hockey guy. You're basically, the way I hear it is you suck at what you do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Don, how about this? I'm on a sports talk show, and the people will call up and go, you know, Don, the way you love hockey and. And Peter and wrestling, it's like, I don't even watch sports.

[Michael Kay]

No, you should. That is an insult. You should take it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is an insult. Oh, I do. You know what, Don? I'm skipping tomorrow on your behalf.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, protest. Let him know he won't be there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll be there, guys.

[Michael Kay]

Bristol, these are just jokes.

[Anthony (Caller)]

Early for you.

[Alan Hahn]

We're just kidding.

[Peter Rosenberg]

These are jokes. These jokes.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it's great to have you back, Peter. Enjoy the rest of the night. Get some sleep, and we'll watch you on get up tomorrow. And we'll look forward to having you back on the show tomorrow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll be around at least for fraud. Friday. I love that.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's for sure.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.