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That sounds like heaven to me.
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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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Welcome back.
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It's sick in me. It's like a dust.
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No, I get it at a moment. This is such a Trans Am song.
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Oh, yeah.
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Iraq. Yeah.
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This is Peter. You gotta understand Van Halen. Maybe the greatest guitar player in the history.
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I'm familia worth his work in any van.
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Work.
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Yeah. I'm over.
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And then the first note you hear, I'm like.
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Is that we're on a.
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Tell me.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, God, please tell me I fixed the cough button.
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Look.
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Oh, you did what you do.
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Anybody have a mask?
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Oh, let's get this.
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Go.
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All right. You knew.
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By the way, Alan, it's a short train ride. By the way, Alan, you could literally leave at the next break. I bet. If you left at the next.
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Does this look awkward or. This will work, right?
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Alan, if you leave at the next commercial break. I'm not kidding. You'll make it here by like. I'll still. We'll still be on here.
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I put it up in the. Put a poll. Does. Do people want me to leave here, subway downtown and spend the rest of the show with Peter or tough it out with my guy?
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Are sinus infections contagious?
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We're gonna find out.
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Because all sinus infection. Because I was sick and after being sick with the flu, I end up getting a sinus infection. So it's a byproduct.
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Mm.
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And being old and just being discussed.
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Ask the people. What do they want? They want me to tough it out with Don. Take it all the way.
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Just.
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Just Thelma and see.
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But the problem is then when Don, like Donald, hit the cough button and he's coughing and doing all the things clearing his throat. But you. You're. But, Alan, you're right there. Should we still hear him?
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Yes.
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The mic still.
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I'm sorry.
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Now, Don, do you have any concerns about the call tonight? You think you'll be able to manage this?
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So people watch on YouTube. Can see hitting the cough button mid game.
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Have you had to do that yet? Don't.
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No, because I'm usually okay when I'm calling. Talking kind of clears it out.
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Oh, that's interesting. So it gets a little worse, actually, because that we. You have time when you're not talking. It builds back up, so.
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But don't jinx it.
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All right, let's not.
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So I'm thinking Eddie's so good right? At guitar, he's making it sound like synthesizer. Like that. That was my hope. No, no, he's playing keyboards. I'm like, what a waste.
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And it's so funny because it's so true. It worked out for them so well.
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I mean, it's.
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No, I'm sure it was a conscious decision. Like, guys, you've taken this hard rock thing as far as you can. You want more exposure. You want more of a. More album sales. You want more. You know, start selling out stadiums instead of arenas. This is the direction you have to go into. Hey, we've all made financial decisions, but I believe they lost their heart when they went in that direction, not just me.
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Bold statement, but I just look at it as two different bands, which is fine.
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Sammy came in because it was. Yeah, David Lee Roth was too significant for it not to change. Right. But as you said, starting with Diver dad, it started to go in that direction anyway.
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And David almost took the sound with him when he did, when he went solo.
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Well, here's the real quick.
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I've mentioned this before.
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Go ahead.
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Van Halen, hard rock, Sammy Hagar, whether it was a Montross or whether solo.
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Yeah, hard rock. Yeah.
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Van Halen goes pop. And then when David Lee Roth went solo, of course he went pop because he was never on board with the hard rock anyway. Where did the hard rock go? Like, it vanished. It only worked with David Lee Roth in Van Halen. Or they all just decided, listen, this isn't working. We got to do something else. Because David was huge, too, when he went solo.
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It was also where music was going at the time, of course, very synthesized, very studio electronic. And they were going. They just kind of went that way. Rather than keep playing the same old same old. That was big in the late 70s, early 80s, but wasn't exactly big by the time we got to the mid-90s, mid-80s.
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All right, let's. Let's bring the people in on the. On the Lindor Soto of it all. Let's get who's been on hold the longest. We'll start with Chris in Bayshore. What's up, Chris?
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Yeah.
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Hey, guys, how we doing?
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What's up?
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What's up, Chris?
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Listen, I, you know, I remember the rumblings about these two guys not getting along, whether it was like their. Their home countries or whatever last year and. But as far as the game and the play you guys are talking about, it might have something to do with the contact play, right? Nobody out. You don't send a guy, one out, you gotta go. So, I mean, I don't remember. I don't think the infield was exactly in the same position for both outs, to be honest with you.
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Maybe said that, right?
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Yeah, it was definitely in for the first out. Second out. They seem to be a little bit more back. It just felt like he could have made it. But I just keep wondering. The last time we were in that situation was the game before, in the ninth inning, sending Lindor being aggressive. That was probably not the brightest send in the world, but maybe that's why, you know, Leaper decided not to do it because of what happened. Maybe he was a little gun shy. You're probably right. Just all I was bringing up is there is a history of players not liking each other, doing that.
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So you're saying that it's not crazy, you're not saying it's happening. What you're trying to say is anybody that's dismissing this, oh, he would never do that.
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Ball players don't do that. They do.
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There is a precedent of it happening.
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Now, he wouldn't do it in the ninth inning with the winning run.
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You would hope not.
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But he could do in the first inning. You know, again, I'm not accusing him of doing it, but if you think it doesn't happen in baseball, it does.
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It has. I thought, though, Don. And the first one from two nights
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ago, when on Sunday.
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On the Sunday night one, which was. Who was in front of him? Alvarez. Yeah, I thought. I just thought it was a ball that hung up for a second. And Alvarez was slow going from second. Everyone was just a little bit slow. That's how. That's how I took it. And they were waiting to make sure it dropped because to me it really seemed like Lindor was gunning it as best he could at the end. I mean, it would be one thing if they caught him standing up. That would have made it kind of obvious. Right. But the fact that it looked like he was gunning it and he clearly made the big slide, I just didn't see it there. The one yesterday is a little.
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Little sus. They are different. You're Right.
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They're different. Each situation is there. To me, the handshake is more damning than both.
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Yeah. When you watch it, in knowing the context of what we're talking.
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You saw it.
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You went and watched it during the break.
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It's. It's. It's a thing.
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Like if someone saw video of me showing up at the station, and I walk up and I give Anthony a big pound, and I see Alan, we dap each other, and we hug, and then Don and I kind of acknowledge each other with a look and, like, a light fist bump. You're like, what's up with those guys?
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Yeah, that's.
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That's essentially what it is.
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I mean, it's the. They were the first to meet each other, and their first reaction was a very cordial, and everybody else is getting hugs. I mean, Boba Shet's been there for three minutes. He was getting hugs.
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Yeah.
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So it's. It's hard not to notice it. There's definitely something there. I think that's fair. There's definitely something there. Whether it bleeds onto the field is something that I wouldn't blame either guy as much as I would blame the manager. That's up to you, man. That's your job. You got to make sure that that doesn't affect what's happening on the field. And if something stands out to you, as that looks funny, that looks a little weird, you got to call it out. You got to have the ability to do that.
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Let's not forget, this is. Don mentioned the precedent before. You guys remember the relationship between Ricky Vaughn and Roger Dorn in Cleveland? This gets extremely personal because Ricky Vaughn unknowingly slept with Roger Dorn's wife.
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It was knowingly.
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Well, that's. Sorry. It was knowingly, but not at first. Right.
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It was a revenge thing.
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What was the order of it again? Oh, I thought the first time he meets her, he's unaware.
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No, he's. He only finds out it's her till after.
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Yeah, it's after.
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Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, because he was in the bar. He was drinking a sauce. She's hitting on him to be there.
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Right.
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He didn't know.
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Yeah.
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Who she was. Right. And then a minute.
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And then she tells him after because she's trying to get back at her husband.
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Right.
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And cause all this.
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Right, right.
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But the thing is, in situations like that, a Jake Taylor, a manager, Lou Brown, these people have to get involved and pull this whole thing together.
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But. No, I agree.
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But Brown also peed on his contract earlier in the movie. I don't see Mendoza doing that. Brown.
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Brown made it clear he was not interested in any of the clauses in his contract.
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I believe he do that went out. Analytics killed all that
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Lou couldn't manage today. No, you know, you know, because I
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believe you know who really, by the way, you know who was really killed by analytics. Don't. Yeah, because there's no praying to Jobu when everything's analytics. You know what I mean? There's no need to sacrifice your chicken in the locker room.
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Best line of that movie from Louis. You may run like Hayes, but you hit like.
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Such a great line.
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Such a great.
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So simple. Let's go to Dave. By the way, guys, we were talking about Major League, the movie. If you're an intern here and you've never watched movies, we recommend you go check it out. Let's go to Dave in West. Hampstead. Yeah, we'll fill Don in. Hey, Dave.
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Hey, how are you guys?
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Hey, buddy.
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What's up?
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Question for you guys. Two questions, really. First of all, if you look at the Dodgers, they have a lot of talent on their roster. Somehow everyone respects Freddie Truman as the leader of that lineup. Do you think Soto and Dorr could take a page out of their book?
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You can't. Look, personalities are what they are. You know, alpha types and all that stuff. I just. I don't know. If you just show them a picture of the Dodgers and say, hey, why can't you be more like them? People are people like you are. They are how they are.
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And also, I don't know. Do we know. Has anybody given any kind of speculation on why they don't get along with each other? Or is it just.
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Well, there's speculation. It's. You know, again, it's. It's. Who's it? I think Soto came in there and you could tell that there were a lot of things that Soto didn't like about the Mets. Like, that's something. I think that is obvious. He went in there. We heard the story. I forget who told it, but there was the story of him. Him thinking about signing and then looking at the lineup and going like, what are we going to do about this? And that's the reason why Alonzo was signed, because he was uncomfortable with their lineup and who was going to protect him in the lineup. So that's part of the reason why Alonso got another chance. But there were a lot of things about the Mets that I don't think he liked. And I think leadership was one of them. The clubhouse was one of them. It's the reason why they, they did what they did to that clubhouse and took the personality.
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No, I, I, I understand, but I think he's had a lot to do with this.
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And Lindor sort of been the guy, I've been here a while. This is my team. This is how we do things. And Soto's probably like, he's a little buttoned up, like, I don't like the way we do things.
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Yeah, but I never, I, I, I, I would look at Lindor as the leader more so. And I, Peter, I think you'll be on board with this because that, that wasn't Alonzo's thing.
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Right.
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Pete Alonso just was, he was young when he first started. We talked about his awkwardness and stuff. It just, he didn't seem like he was ready to be the guy to be the leader. Lindor had already played the World Series with Cleveland. He was a little bit more of a veteran. And he comes in and I think he was the de facto leader, but I don't think he was the leader like Mark Messier was the leader of the Rangers or Jeter was the, you know, the leader of the Yankees, you know, making decisions off the field, telling them what they eat on the plane stuff. And I just think he was, hey, he's our leader. He's one of our best players. He's under contract here for a decade, you know, so if he had a problem with the way the Mets were run or the way the Mets look, why would you blame Lindor for that?
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Well, you can't.
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A lot of the reasons for, besides
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Lindor, you can't blame Lindor. But I don't know, again, put yourself in this situation. You walk into something and you look around, you go, you know, I don't like the way this is run. And they paid me a boatload of money.
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Well, you know, and I could, and
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I want it the way I want.
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All right. But you know what? Like, you know what it sounds like to me?
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What?
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That the Mets aren't the Yankees. Well, you know, you could stay with the Yankees. Yeah. You might have had to take a little bit of a discount. Yeah, you're, you'd have to pay for your own suite. But if I got him in Lindor, and he walks in here going, boy, you're not like the Yankees, man. Yeah, I like the way you run. You were, you didn't have to leave. Nobody told you how to sign here.
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Very interesting.
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You said, right, this is how we do things here. And if you don't like it, well, you knew, you came, you checked it out, and you took the little bit of extra money and you took the free suite, and now you're dictating policy. If you like the Yankees so much, you like the way they're run, then why didn't you stay there? Sound like you were making money, a decision all about the money. Now, again, I'm making this all up in the sense of like what Lindor would have said, but if Soto were. If I'm Lindor, and Soto walked in, said, I like the way this is running. So what? You didn't have to sign here.
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It's a great point. And that's. Again, this is the. The human nature of when you're building a team and putting a team together and personalities are all put in the same place and you're just expecting, oh, they're professional athletes, they're all going to get along. It's all going to work great. You don't know that because you don't know. You could take somebody that's a little more relaxed and laid back and doesn't really want to have the intensity of a room. And the other guy, that's all about. No, no, everything's got to be intense. Everything's got to be to a standard and all that stuff. And they're both. They both consider themselves to have influence. It's not going to work. So they're dealing with that right now. Again, it could. It could work fine as long as on the field, when I'm in third and there's a sacrifice to be made, you'll make it because we're trying to score a run for the team. But if it's bleeding onto the field in any way, even if. Even if innocently, like Lindor, he was hoofing it to third, had a smile on his face when he got there, let the third base coach know that I was already past second when you would give me the stop sign. So I was going right then. He stood there and he smiled. And then Soto gives him an opportunity to score and he doesn't. If that's innocent, fine. But it doesn't mean that Soto's not walking back to the dugout looking at Lindor like, what are you doing? No, like, that's an RBI for me. Why. Why didn't you go? I gave you a chance to score. And then he scores on the next one. You don't think he's sitting in the dugout now, thinking away. That's all stuff that if you are Carlos Mendoza, this can't be these Things that you just kind of dust aside, it's. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. You got to handle it and you got to handle it in April because you can't let it, you can't let it turn into something bigger in August. If it's a thing.
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Yeah. And it's hard to imagine it gets handled that quickly. But this is really what tests. I really think it tests the medal of Melrose and, and of Lindor, but. And of Lindor because he's supposed to be captain.
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Who's the big personality in the room that would do that? Who's the guy that's the problem with the Mets we saw last year. They really were pretty rudderless there. Wasn't that like a, again, a great example. CC Sabathi is a great example. Who's the vet? It wasn't Marte Soto, the guy that Soto clung to a little bit because everybody respected him.
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Oh, big time.
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Yeah.
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Right. So who's the guy in that room now that starts to see it, knows it's a problem and handles it with, you know, off night on the road, walk through the lobby and go, you know, Frisco, meet me here. Juan, meet me here. And they all end up in the same place. And you just sit there and we're not leaving until we have this out. And nobody else needs to know about it. But you gotta. Who's the guy that has that kind of gravitas to do that on that team? I don't think they have a guy like that.
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No. Because they're all, they're all kids or newbies. Right. I mean, Bouchette just got here. Beatty's a kid. Alvarez is a kid.
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Yeah, right.
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So it's up to the kid.
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So it's up to the manager.
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Polanco just got here.
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Who's going to do it?
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The manager's only been here three years or two, plus.
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And does he have it? Can he do it? GM isn't that guy or Cohen and
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the owner, like, listen, I paid you a lot of money, Juan. You get, get, get along.
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Paid the both of his money. Like, we're not going to have this. But what's the threat? Oh, I'll get rid of you. That's not going to happen.
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Well, that's ultimately, that's why the modern day athlete can't be coached like this.
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Too much money.
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Because there was a day that ownership would have sided with the manager, sided with the general manager, but now the player. Where's Lindora Soto going? They're not going anywhere.
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Nowhere.
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They're multi year contracts making tons of money. They're both unbelievable players. Listen, no offense to Mendoza. I think he's a fabulous manager. He's replaceable. He can find somebody else to do his job. I can't find another Juan Soto. I can't find another Francisco Lindor. And the players know that. So even if you meet with them, talk to them, they just roll their eyes, walk out of the room.
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Let's keep this convo going with the people. Mike in Jersey. What up, Mike?
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Hey, guys, how's it going? So the first caller on the top of the hour, he, he made my first point. But I did want to go bring up what Buster only said because I do think Buster is kind of a clown. You know, Francisco Lindor had David Wright's old locker. So, so locker assignments are pretty, you know, important and significant. Like, like Han said, you know, Soto's, you know, was very close with Marte last year. Dodo took Marte's locker this year. So I, I just see that as Soto being the guy who's gonna, you know, sort of be, be the support for, you know, those young Latin players. I think Buster is just trying to stir the pot and I think he's a moron.
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Well, wow.
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Well, first of all, I've got to defend.
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You gotta defend him.
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He's fabulous at what he does. If you listen to the cut, he's like, listen, I haven't been there, but from what I heard, the lockers were move from each other. He was just giving us information. He wasn't saying, this is the reason they don't get along with each other. He disclaimered it by saying, listen, I haven't been there, but I've been told the locker's been moved as. Just like I telling you that this, this seems to be a thing. Here's an example. But come on, man. Even if he's not saying things you want to hear, Buster Olney's not a moron. He's fabulous at what he does. He's as inside as anybody that we know. Major League Baseball.
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I agree on all those things, especially with Buster. Huge respect for him. A guy that is, you know, he's done great things covering the sport. I do though think that one of the jobs as a beat writer, and we can easily find it, is when you notice that Soto has a new locker and it's far away from Lindor. You would think that the question would be to Soto, why'd you move your locker? It's a very simple thing, Right. Whether he gives you a straight answer or not, these are the things. This is how you get to the bottom of everything. This is how you get the answer. It's a very innocent question. Hey, I noticed your lockers over here. What'd you move for? Like, what made you move it over here? You like it over here? Better, like, whatever.
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It might give you a good answer.
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All right, there you go.
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You could rearrange everything if you wanted to, you know, but like, the caller said that Lindor got rights. Old locker, just. And that shows you the leadership. Right. It was Captain America, David Wright. So there was obviously a significance of him taking over the locker. And if Marte, who was kind of the leader of the Latino players, was way on the other side, the ball
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player to you and me.
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Yeah, listen, but I don't think Buster came on with breaking news to say, I know there's a rift because their lockers were moved apart. He was asked a question, and he just gave you some context. Well, I heard the blocker's removed. He was told by somebody. Right. But I don't think he was saying anything definitive. He was just giving. Adding a little color to the conversation. But I don't think he was making any kind of proclamation or guarantee that they do have a problem. But he did hear that. It was a bit of a thing.
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This all started. Mary. Joel Sherman was the one that really revealed a lot of the clubhouse issues that were going on with the Mets last year. Because we said, there's something not right about this team. Like, we saw it all last year. Just something's missing about this team. And I think dysfunction's probably. It's probably not the right word to use, but, you know, they were. But even circling the drain at times, and you're like, somebody got to grab this team by its throat and say, we're not doing this.
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But even that was kind of speculation, right. Of, well, the reason they broke up the team. Was there a chemistry problem? But Stearns can go back and say, listen, I think I could do better than Nemo. I think I can do better than Lonzo.
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Right.
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I think I can do better than McNeil. We tried this core. It didn't work. Now let's bring in some new pieces. And then people who are on the whole bandwagon that there's bad chemistry say, see, look at the bad chemistry they got rid of. They got rid of a bunch of players. Well, maybe they would have gotten rid of those players if they all loved each other because they weren't Winning with Nimmo at center field and McNeil playing second base and Alonzo playing first base. And we'll see if it works out. The three and one so far, far from any kind of conclusion, but this is all speculation on how much they don't like each other. But there's. There's a lot of evidence there, guys.
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That's what it is.
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It seems to be a thing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't like. I don't like the amount of smoke, you know?
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No, there's smoke and you know, when they're smoke, there's some bar. Oh,
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no, it's bad.
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It's like, goodbye, get away from me.
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Don't forget, though, Don, I've had my moments. Knicks and the rockets with coverage. 1050 at 7:30. The Isles and the Sabres in Buffalo at 7:30.
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Down.
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On second thought, use the button. Sorry, I thought. I thought the drop was me coughing. I didn't know it was more of you coughing.
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When I said, get away from me, I was talking to the drop button, not Alan.
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I thought you told me to do that.
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If you know why, you see it when I said. I said, get away from me and
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I push the button. No, when you do that, it makes me stay even more.
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That's right. He wants to lean in.
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That's it.
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You should take line one first before the break, Anthony.
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Wow.
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All right, let's go to line one.
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Let's go to John and Queens dance producer boy.
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Yo, yo, monkey boy. Make people go laugh time. John in Queens.
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Hey, guys. What's going on? Big fan.
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What's up, bro?
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So I. I hate this. Allen, take this. Sounds so like. And Alan, I love you, but, like, this is so, like, backhanded Yankee fan thing.
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Like, making it bigger. Oh, no, no.
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I thought, just to be fair. No, no, John. Allen. John and I are talking. What's that, John?
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If.
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John.
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I was gonna say that like, if you. If you look. Bird's eye on the two personalities. Lindor's fun, loving. He smiles, he hugs people. Yeah. Soto, I love him. He's awesome. But he's kind of a curmudgeon, like Bird's eye view. Don't you think so, Peter?
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I do. I. I think Lindor is the.
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He was hugging everybody else when they came by.
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True. And he was hugging everybody. Soto was fun in the Bronx, too. He didn'. Have that.
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See, I think the fair thing you could accuse me of is not the Yankee boy thing, but this is me loving tabloid stuff. Ah, he does. He does. Like this. I. This is. I Appreciate.
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This is so, this is reflective. I appreciate this.
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You know, 15 years of it where you just sit there and you're going, what's today's story? And you see something like that. That's, that's the thread on the sweater that you pull and it could go all season long.
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The Post and Daily News writers are dreaming of this to last all year.
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This, this has got to become a thing soon, right?
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Because three and one, so what? Lindor and Soto have problems.
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Oh, and you just keep going with it. And on the slow days when nothing's really happening, you go back over. Well, by the way, what made you move your locker? Like you keep that in the holster just in case you have a slow day or rain out. Maybe there's like a rain delay. So you got to have an early story almost. This is, this is mana from heaven. So I'm more you can accuse me of when I see something like this, it, it sort of catches my interest. Like the, the poll, the, the, the Yankees and skiing story that came out over the weekend. Like that's another thing that I love because not only was it an interesting story from the Post that made you like lean forward and go whoa. And it looked like a big scoop. Good. Sorry.
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Okay everyone on it.
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It was the fact that a day later was it clappich just dumped cold water on it. Absolutely not true. Did not. I love tabloid wars. Like that's the stuff that I live for. And for some reason baseball does it better than any sport, at least in New York. Probably because of the daily coverage and the amount of press it get both teams are getting. That's the stuff. So if you want to accuse me of anything, it really isn't. Honestly, it is not a Yankee boy thing.
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No, I like more huge back page story, very honest. And I heard, I heard Alan and Carlin in our pre show meeting. They were both like just being very old school New York. You know, sports media types of like oh, this is sex. This is it. This story. It's all over it and I get it.
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So this is back page.
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Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes you just can't take it anymore. You're done. This is let's talk about it Tuesday with Don Hahn and Rosenberg.
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Talk about it Tuesday. I'm gonna give you guys. I have something
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I've got maybe the best one I've ever had.
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Well, I don't know. You know, we may battle. We may be. We may do battle here. Look at you too. Yeah, this we got stuff going on today.
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All right.
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I don't have a sponsor for this. No.
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Well, that's on them.
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And I don't have a game time and I don't. I do have a game time. We won't do it right this second. I will take this moment, though, to shout out the DNR couchcast, which is coming up on Thursday, April 23rd. Don counting down the days. Don.
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Can't wait for this.
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Don has an advent calendar for this.
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Yeah, there's a. There's a couple of Advil. Every time I open one, the it's
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gonna say he opens it up.
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I love that.
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Each one, there's a different shaped volume.
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There's a. There's a. There's an Advil. There's Tums, there's an Emodium.
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So obviously a lot of big New York football picks in the draft, so Rick and Dave will have the couch cast all night long. Your second screen. Don't be locked in popping a modium ad.
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Lock it in.
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All the real time reactions it takes, it's all going down. April 23rd at 8pm presented by Calandra's Bakery. You don't want to miss that. What'd you say?
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I told you he would have hated the binge.
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What do you mean? Oh, yesterday. Oh, yeah, yesterday we were doing a lot of draft speculation. I would have pooh, poohed it all.
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I saw the text thread. I was disgusted.
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The binge was fantastic.
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We went today. We're breaking down rounds four through seven.
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Why are we still doing this? Why does no one respect me on the show? I said I didn't want to do the draft.
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Right. We were predicting what you would have said.
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Now if I could just simply cartoon porn.
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But if you.
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No, let's.
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All right, never mind. We're gonna do this later, though, Peter.
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All right. You want to bring it back?
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We got. We have to bookmark this clown. Bookmark this because you're going to see. I'm going to get him to submit, isn't it.
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What?
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Oh, you're going to tap out when I tell you what we talked about.
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They're doing a rookie throwback game on the NFL Network right now.
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Okay.
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It's a Roethlisberger Rookie season game. CBS. What year's Roethlisberger's rookie year? Like, oh, five.
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That would be 04.04.
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He was in this. Was he in the Eli draft?
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Yeah.
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It's crazy. It's crazy how games now, like, from 04, you're talking about early. You're talking about the early days of hd. So it's still an hd, but there. But they were, like, figuring out the tech. Bonnie Bernstein's on the sideline. Hello.
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The other day, the Bonnie situation.
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The Bonnie situation.
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I saw. I saw Bonnie last week.
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How's she doing great? Terp. Bonnie Bernstein.
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Yeah, doing great. She was. She was at get up working on. She was doing a. I don't know if it's documentary or something, but following around an athlete. So. Yeah.
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All right, well, here's my. Talk about it. I want your guys feedback. I wasn't going to do this, but I just. I think you guys will be intrigued by this, by a real life thing that happened.
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Okay.
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I'm not going to. As tempted as I am, I'm not going to air the person out personally. Oh, no. I don't want to, you know, any problems, but I do want to share this with you guys and tell me who's that? Maybe you'll say I'm that guy. I don't think so. And I may die fighting if you do.
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Okay, I'm ready.
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So, as you guys know, my living situation was not ideal. We were not. We were not happy with the situation. We were not happy in the place that we lived. We were not happy with the realtor, the realty company that showed us the apartment and didn't tell us certain things about the apartment when we were moving in. And then we, you know, found a way out of it, fortunately. Right. And everybody agreed to it. We got out of it. The same realty company that found us the place found new people who think they're moving into a good place and they're now moving in. And as of tonight, I will be sleeping back in my old haunts. Okay.
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Okay.
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So we reached out to the broker who showed our place to try to get her to find out whether the new tenants wanted the same stuff that we bought when we got into the place four months ago, which is the. The window units. The, you know, this is all very New York stuff. But there were window units that are already in the windows. There's window dressings that are already on the windows that make sense, guys?
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Yes. So it's a beautiful window treatment.
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It's a. I don't know if it's a beautiful window treatment, but they fit the ones and they're already there. So you. It's a rental. Do you guys want the stuff that's already there? Because we're leaving. So when we reach out to the broker, the broker does not respond after three days. So now we get to Friday and we're leaving Tuesday. So I reached out to the. The guy who runs the realty company, the boss of the broker, and I said, hey, dude, so and so will not respond to us. We want to find out if the next tenants want the AC units. We have curtains, bar stools, etc. Can you please help us here? He wrote, hey, I'll find out. I wrote, thanks, dude. Sooner the better. If possible, he wrote back. How long did he wait? About three minutes later, he wrote back, that comment didn't land with me the way you probably intended, so I'll let it go. I will find out. First of all, I just want to be clear. If you say that it didn't land the way you wanted to, but you quote, I'll let it go. You're not letting it go. No, that's not how letting it go works, moron.
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But wait a minute, what did you say? So let's keep going.
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Let's keep going.
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Okay.
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I wrote, let what slide? I said, thanks, dude. The sooner the better. If possible, we're moving on Tuesday. And so. And so has been non responsive. This has not been a good time for us. I'm asking for some help here. Thanks again. He wrote back, good luck then. At which point I pick up the phone and call.
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Of course.
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Because now.
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No, no, it's getting lost in translation.
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We got to have a chat.
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Let's just.
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Let's chat this out. He sends me to voicemail. He immediately texts your aggressive do this now tone on a Friday night when this is the first I'm hearing of, this is not appreciated. I don't work for you, my friend, and have been nothing but kind and respectful and helpful without any thanks. I will reach out and let you know what they say. Good night.
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You literally said thanks.
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I literally said thanks. And please. And if possible, what are you like, why don't you just tell me that you're not happy with how you're endowed? Why are you saying that? I'm treating you like I'm your. No, no, but seriously, that me saying, the sooner the better, if possible, in your head you heard, hey, punk, you work for me. I said, tell me right now, like guys. So let me ask you, am I being that guy or is this guy a lunatic?
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No, he's a lunatic.
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No, he's unhinged.
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Because even if for some reason he's in a bad mood or whatever and just took it the wrong way. Yeah, as somebody in business, you're gonna always lean towards that.
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Probably.
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I'm probably taking it the wrong way. I'm probably reading it wrong. Err on the side of you're the nice guy because the customer is supposed to be always right.
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Although he told me he doesn't work for me and I'm like, I guess, yeah. No, you don't work for me, but you did make money off of me getting this very expensive apartment. That did not work out because you guys didn't share information about the apartment. I'm being nice about that part, bro.
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But the proper way to do it is err on the side that I'm taking it the wrong way. Be cordial, be nice, do what you can. And if you still don't want to let it go, then maybe after the fact, you can send an email and say, by the way, I just didn't appreciate your tone or whatever. Or at the very minimal, if you're taking it the wrong way, at least talk to you to find out. Am I missing the tone? Because that's the thing about tweets and texts and emails, is that you never can recognize tone.
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Let me give you guys the final close here by.
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Oh, boy.
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So I responded. I responded, there is no aggressive do this now tone. My wife asked me to reach out to you since she hasn't heard back from so and so and so and so works for you. Never said you worked for me. Although you did broker this deal for us. All good, though. No need to help with this. Take care.
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Right.
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He responded, quote, the sooner the better, demanding. If you can't see that, then I feel bad for you. I will ask them. But seriously, step back and think about how that comes across to a person who's only been kind and respectful to you. All right, I didn't know kind and respectful was renting me a dumpy apartment where you didn't tell me about tons of flaws, and I hemorrhaged money for the last four months. I don't know know if I consider that kind of respectful. But anyways, guys, that's my talk about it Tuesday, not that guy Thursday. You get the idea.
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Sooner the better. If I want that to play devil's advocate, all it does is just send a sense of urgency. Because there was a sense of urgency.
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But as my. As my brilliant philosophy professor best friend Chauncey said when I sent him the text, he said, when you wrote the words, if possible. It takes all the sting out of the sooner for better. Sooner the better.
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He's. He's taking it out on you. Something else that's going on in his life.
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Yep. He was already in a bad mood. You send him this, and he's like, I can't even. Just chill out.
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All right, Don, I don't want to. I don't want to do what I've done, though, which is you Then have a great when we don't get to it. So I want to hear your talk about it.
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Well, I just think that we could talk about, you know, bad teammates. You know, we're all work at the same radio station, care about each other. I know this is somebody who I deeply care about and I've known forever. One of the first updates I did at WFAN back in 1996, he was the board op for that update. I consider him part of my family.
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Part of your family. I love when he goes that far. Okay.
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And that's Chris Carlin.
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Oh, boy.
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Salt of the earth.
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Don's son, I'm sure, is a lovely
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kid with a bright future in front of him. Future voice of the New Jersey Devils. Clearly, I'm gonna make mop the floor with this kid. And again, I had no problem with that because he was complimentary and he was also telling the truth that Marco's holy cannoli is as cute as it is, adorable as it is. Stood no chance at Carling almost, you know, Carlin almost dying on the air, and it's showing in the voting where he's got a significant 79 to 21.
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Oh, man, that's big.
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So Marco is not going to make it into the sweet 16.
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No.
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So Carlin, much like St. John. Go. He's got a now tweet.
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Yeah.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah. I had a feeling this was going to be.
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This is tough right now.
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All right. This is a friend.
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A friend. Family. You said a family member.
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And I remember before the kids were born, like, talking to him about it and how nervous he was.
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A really.
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A real gentleman.
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Yeah.
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He tweets, let's send this kid packing and move on.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, he said that.
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How old is Marco?
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Eight.
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Yeah, he's eight years old. Get him out.
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This kid, like, so dismissive. I'm not even gonna get into the fact that he's compromised the voting because, let's face it, you didn't have to. You didn't have to cheat on this one. But my God, how. What. What kind of a loser are you that you gotta take this win?
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You've got to take this. This victory. No, no.
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To call my son this kid, you know, stomp on his grave. Oh, listen, it's a nice little drop. I get it, but Carlin's is epic. Might win the whole thing, and it's gonna break Marco's heart that he lost this. But you know what? He's got another drop.
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Is he losing?
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Is it already 7921. It's over.
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It's. It's. It's tough.
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Stop it. It might be the first ever drop that we. Stop.
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Throw the damn towel.
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Throw the towel.
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So this is tough. I don't.
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I mean, so it was unnecessary to begin with, but listen, it's good for Marco to learn how to lose and all that. It's probably. But that's not what he's trying to accomplish here. Trying to step on my son's soul to win. Drop madness.
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Drop madness.
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Yeah.
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That's tough language. But that is a weird. You know, it's a weird hill to die on for Chris.
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Listen, I want to win. I get it. But it's drop madness. And it's this kid, this and this kid packing.
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Like, it's easy. It's like a stranger on the street.
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Like, you don't know me. Like there's no connection.
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Yeah.
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Like, what if. What if he said, let's. Let's send this sweet boy packing.
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I love Marco, but it's, you know, it's. It's moving day. All right.
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Right.
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Different.
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Sure.
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Like, how affectionate he was on the air, talking about what a great kid he is. Yeah, I get it. He soft shoot it a little bit. This one was just hardcore.
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Yeah.
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And again, I just circle back. I need another word to use. I said loser. Like, if this is something that you want to hang on the rim for, then, you know, that's sad.
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Cut his fat ass.
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Whoa. That. That wasn't about Chris.
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I know. And why would you do that? I need to know how many chances
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you get out of context. That was dangerous.
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That was. You know what, Chris?
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That was dangerous.
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I'm not mad at whoever hit that button.
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It was, well, time. It was.
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No, it was exceptionally well done.
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Look at this guard.
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But I was not going to go. I don't want to have it on record that. Because you know how it's going to work. Oh, Don called Chris.
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Yeah.
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Cut his fat ass.
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He thinks.
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No, no, no, That's. No, I just called him a loser because. What a loser.
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Oh, my third time needs to hang
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on the rim to advance to the sweet 16 to drop madness
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at the
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expense of my son. And all the time that Alan and I especially defended. Not playing that.
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Yeah, because we didn't want to hurt
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Carlin because we've all been there, and I don't want him to have to go through that. But again, circling back, what kind of loser wants to hang on the wrist? That drop.
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He's called it four times.
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Well, Peter points.
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Yeah, no, I Hear you.
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What does that have to do.
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Is my son Ladon James.
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This kid.
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Yeah, this kid is tough.
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Yeah, let's send kid.
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So you know what? If there's any people out there that hate a loser and love a young kid, let's. Let's change this fold. Let's turn it around.
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Oh, my God. You're trying to fight his soul out. Oh, my God.
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Let's end him.
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You're trying to. You're trying to. Now tip the scale back.
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Tip it. No, I'm not putting a toe on the scale. I'm busting the scale with a baseball bat.
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You want to turn Marco, vote Marco.
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Oh, if you don't vote for Marco, you hate me.
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A vote for Marco is a vote for Don.
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This is so you're more than tipping the scale. You're stomping on the scale.
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Stop the scale of the work.
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This is no longer about job, man.
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We have to find the another way to weigh.
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This is about what's right.
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Yeah, I cross the line.
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All right, we got a break, but I just don't want to see. Oh, no. All right. Controversy has erupted here. That is talk about it Tuesday.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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What's the what's going on here, Jacob, jump in line.
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Work it all the time.
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My girl's name is Sonora I tell you, friends, I adore her and when she dances.
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Simple lyrics.
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Yeah.
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Another jump song.
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I love jumping, folks. Let's see. So has Don's scale tipping?
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No, it's. It's too early. You won't feel this till about 545.
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Should I retort on social media?
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Well, that's. That's how you really try to fight it. It's. It's still 78.6 to 21.4. But let me ask you a question.
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It would take a lot.
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But here's the thing, Alan. As much as we may agree that, that, you know, Carlin was crude on. On. On Twitter when talking about our sweet Marco.
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Yeah, we love Marco.
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Don't. As far as the integrity of drop madness goes, we all know that Charlie Carlin choking or Charlien coking should advance.
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Well, that's why I said coking would probably be an interesting.
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Are you kidding me?
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Honestly, I think Carlin was the first one to misstep by saying that doesn't
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mean just because he's wrong. Two wrongs doesn't make a right, Alan.
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You know, I'm sorry. I think what we're trying to do here is level the playing field. If you're already campaigning for yourself on your own show, getting your people, your listeners to be aware that this is coming and you vote for me and then you go on Twitter and double down, what is Don supposed to do? Well, Marco's not here to defend himself. Marco's not here to be able to take on big Carlin or Charlien or whatever you want to call him. He can't do it.
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Loser.
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He's busy.
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So I don't even have a problem.
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Ball's got to step in and protect his son.
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I don't have a problem with him tipping the scales because it wasn't needed. Right. It's like the 27 Yankees, you know, cheating against the Washington Senators. Senators. Back in the day, Marco had zero shot.
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None shot.
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None shot. I just don't like him dismissing my son as, you know, this kid.
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This kid has a name, right?
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And his name is Marco.
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And he likes cannolis.
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I don't even know if he knows what.
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He doesn't like it.
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He doesn't like cannolis?
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No.
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He's got a very discerning palate.
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Well, but it happens.
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He.
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He was really excited.
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Has he tried. Has he tried the fried calipar?
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I was going there. He's going there.
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Because if he hasn't tried the fried
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calipari and the baked patina with. Yeah.
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Are you kidding me?
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Like, you dream about.
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I'm having some issues with our page right now.
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Are you? I think it's an X issue. The best Twitter. That's really good, dude.
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Twitter. Did Twitter just literally break down on us?
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I think. I think Carlin might have gotten to the xp.
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No, I'm not kidding.
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Tell me it's coming back, though. I. When I looked again, I was able to get back into. It never comes back.
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I never wanted something to die more in my life.
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Right? Like, let's be honest. If breaking news, it was that Elon's like, I'm done. I'm done back in this thing. I'm out. I don't want to sell it. I want to kill it. And it just. Boom, gone, dead, dead. Killed it dead. How many of us are like, all right.
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Oh, like, it just doesn't exist. It would be great because, like, it just evaporates.
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Are we all going like, oh, no, I can't. How do I live now? What do I do? Or you just go, all right, let me delete it.
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Would feel like life just started again.
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You know what I mean? Let me just delete this.
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It would be so beautiful to just have it end like.
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Like, it.
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Like.
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Let's just say, like, what is it? Meta? Is that the parent company of Facebook and all that stuff?
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Yes.
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They if, like, Hostile Takeover took it and then. All right, so, Mark, what do you want to do with it? Oh, we're going to kill it. We're just going to completely delete it. It's not going to be an engine anymore, and it's just, poof, gone. Would we all just sit here and just, like, like, talk blissfully about the wonderful days of Twitter and how we're gonna miss it? Would there be, you know, video tributes and all that stuff? Or would we just go, all right, let me just delete that?
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Like the song by Merciful Fate, talking about how much he hated somebody. King diamond was the lead singer. I'll be the first to watch your funeral. I'll be the last to leave.
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Oh, wow.
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That's the way I would be with X. And then party.
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You'd love.
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You'd never seen it before.
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I'll be there. Yeah. X would be the one I would probably choose to get rid of.
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Number.
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Number one choice. There was a big landmark case the other day, guys, by the way, affecting. Affecting meta and YouTube, where they. Yeah, basically that they're they could be liable in terms of people's addiction, problems with social media, death penalty. I mean, by the way, it's ruining people's lives. I mean, social media is. Social media is ruining the men. The mental state of human beings of all backgrounds, ages, everything. No question.
A
So I don't know if any of you guys use Snap, right? Snapchat. I have it because my kids do. And it's our way of just daily sending. Wherever we are, you take a picture, you snap it, you send it. And so we have our streaks. And that's it. It's only family. I don't have connections. Yeah. I don't connect with anybody else. Yeah, they have it for their family.
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The kids are doing their phone. God knows what's happening with Snapchat.
A
But I only have it for that. I don't use it for anything. I don't scroll on it. I don't follow anyone. Nothing. Right? If anybody tries to add me, I do not add back nothing. It's amazing how this app tries to draw you in to scroll and look at things. Oh, yeah, and the stuff they put
B
in your algorithm, how well they know you, buddy.
A
Where it's like if I just add a key, I just, just hit the one button and you just look and you're just looking at things. You're like, oh, I know. Like, I'm no idiot. This is, this wants me to look. And it's. It's things that you know. What do you think a middle aged man would want to.
B
Boobs and fights?
A
Lots. Lots of it. Lots of it. And it's. And I'm saying I don't follow anything.
B
No, there's.
A
You have no evidence of anything that I would be interested in. Hey guys. Anyone want to play some ball? That's all I care about. Show me some hoop.
B
There's some hoop, baby.
A
So that just shows you again.
B
No, it's bad. It's.
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It.
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They, they. It's. It's.
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Okay.
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So it'd be great if it died, but in the meantime, go vote right now for whoever you want to vote for.
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Thanks for listening to Badan, Han and Rosenberg podcast.
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I don't want to know how the
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sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter. Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
C
I sold my car in Carvana last night.
B
Well, that's cool.
C
No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong.
A
So what's the problem?
B
That is the problem.
C
Nothing in my life goes as smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.
A
Maybe there's no catch.
B
That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.
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Wow.
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You need to relax.
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I need a knock on wood.
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Do we have wood? Is this table wood?
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I think it's laminate.
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Okay. Yeah. That's good.
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That's close enough.
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Date: March 31, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Main Theme: Tension between Mets stars Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor, debates on team chemistry, and “Drop Madness” bracket hijinks.
Hour 2 of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" dives into rumors of discord between New York Mets stars Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor. The hosts analyze key on-field moments, body language, and the wider implications for clubhouse chemistry and leadership. The show blends deep sports conversation with signature New York banter, and pivots in its second half to “Drop Madness”—a playful radio bracket featuring memorable show sound bites, resulting in a mock “feud” over voting and radio producer antics.
[38:03 onward]
On Clubhouse Tension:
On Leadership & Modern Baseball:
On Tabloids & NY Sports Coverage:
On "Drop Madness" Contest:
On Social Media’s Fate:
The hour is classic New York sports radio—mixing deep baseball nerdery with irreverence, sharp wit, and a knowing wink to the city’s media circus. The hosts openly embrace speculation and thrive on drama, but always with self-awareness and respect for the human dynamics driving the story. Their banter is good-natured, often self-deprecating, and built on years of friendship and city sports lineage.
Hour 2 opens up the “Soto–Lindor chemistry crisis”—are the Mets’ superstar teammates at odds, and does it threaten the season? The show explores on-field moments, body language, locker room politics, and the manager's tough task, all while reveling in the media’s penchant for making mountains out of molehills. The latter half delivers a hilarious “Drop Madness” showdown, as Don and Alan take on Chris Carlin’s unapologetic gamesmanship, before closing with musings about the world’s love-hate affair with social media.
Memorable, insightful, and distinctly New York—a slice of sports talk radio at its best.