Hour 2: Standards & The List

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary Episode: Hour 2: Standards & The List
Release Date: July 30, 2025
Hosts: Don Hahn, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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1. Team Standards and Consistency

The episode opens with Don Hahn and Alan Hahn delving into the topic of maintaining high standards within sports franchises, with a particular focus on the New York Yankees. Don emphasizes the Yankees' unique position in sports due to their consistent performance over the past three decades without the need to rebuild or face irrelevance.

Don Hahn [02:45]: "There is something to the fact that you are literally the only sports franchise in the last three decades that has never had to rebuild, never has been an embarrassment, never has completely bottomed out to being completely irrelevant."

Alan acknowledges the Yankees' consistency but contrasts it with other teams, highlighting the challenges that come with sustaining success without the cyclical rebuilds seen in other franchises.

Alan Hahn [03:28]: "But what's going to happen to the Chiefs is going to be the same thing that happened to the Patriots once Tom Brady's gone and Belichick leaves."

2. Salary Caps and Franchise Management

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the absence of a salary cap in Major League Baseball (MLB) and its impact on team management. Don points out that unlike the NFL, where salary caps require teams to make tough financial decisions, the Yankees operate without such restrictions, allowing them to maintain their star-studded roster without the need to relinquish veteran players.

Don Hahn [02:57]: "There's one great difference. The Yankees don't have a salary cap. There's no restrictions on them."

Alan adds that while high payrolls can sustain competitiveness, they eventually lead to challenges, especially as star players age and teams need to rebuild.

Alan Hahn [03:13]: "Difficult because you're overpaying guys."

3. Player Development and Accountability

The hosts then shift focus to player development within the Yankees organization. Alan criticizes the lack of accountability and the organization's failure to nurture young talent effectively. He mentions specific players like Gary Sanchez and Gleyber Torres, arguing that organizational shortcomings have hindered their potential.

Alan Hahn [05:28]: "I don't want to blame players like young players like Volpe. I don't want to blame Gary Sanchez... Where only Judge made it out of that group."

Don concurs, highlighting that while Aaron Judge has thrived, other prospects have underperformed due to the organization's mismanagement.

Don Hahn [07:44]: "The guys that had so negative potential, and instead they have become... they have never found their potential."

4. The Role of General Manager Brian Cashman

A critical part of the conversation revolves around Brian Cashman's effectiveness as the Yankees' General Manager. Both hosts express skepticism about Cashman's ability to adapt to potential changes like the introduction of a salary cap, questioning whether he can maintain the team's competitiveness in a financially constrained environment.

Alan Hahn [19:42]: "I'm saying I don't think so. There is something to that."

Don Hahn [20:22]: "Player development to me is their biggest weakness."

Don raises concerns about Cashman's strategies, especially in player development and economic management, suggesting that his methods may not be sustainable in a capped salary environment.

5. Comparing Yankees to Other Franchises

The discussion broadens as the hosts compare the Yankees' situation to other successful franchises like the New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs. They debate whether the Yankees' continuous success without rebuilding is a model or a potential liability in the long term.

Don Hahn [02:57]: "The only franchise that has not had to go through that in the last 30 years. That is something."

Alan counters by suggesting that this very consistency may lead to stagnation and challenges in adapting to changes, such as salary caps.

Alan Hahn [10:05]: "Once you start giving in on, okay, we can dial back the expectations then it can. The standard continues to drop to a point where..."

6. Listener Interaction and Trade Deadline Analysis

Midway through the episode, listeners Moose and Griffin call in to discuss the Yankees' bullpen and trade strategies. They analyze the Yankees' recent trades, bullpen depth, and the implications of these moves on the team's postseason prospects.

Moose [12:40]: "What’s going on, fellas? How are we?"

Griffin [15:18]: "I don't see them done. By the way, you have until 6 o'clock tomorrow..."

The hosts and callers debate the necessity of acquiring additional starting pitchers and bullpen arms, considering the competitive landscape with other teams like the Texas Rangers and Houston Astros also vying for top talent.

Don Hahn [17:16]: "This is going to be a battle royal tomorrow."

7. Future Prospects and Organizational Changes

As the conversation winds down, Don and Alan speculate on the future of the Yankees' management and the potential need for organizational changes to maintain relevance and competitiveness, especially if salary caps are introduced.

Alan Hahn [21:04]: "You'll have to believe though, just to put a bow on it, Rob Manfred in baseball have got to figure out how to get that team to Vegas because if current ownership cannot come up with the finances to do."

Don Hahn [20:53]: "So now, you know, my biggest concern going forward with the cap is the fact that I don't know if this is the right guy for a cap world."

8. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a consensus that while the Yankees have maintained high standards without the need to rebuild, this model may face challenges in the future, particularly with the potential introduction of salary caps and the evolving landscape of professional sports management.

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Notable Quotes:

• Don Hahn [02:45]: "There is something to the fact that you are literally the only sports franchise in the last three decades that has never had to rebuild..."
• Alan Hahn [03:28]: "But what's going to happen to the Chiefs is going to be the same thing that happened to the Patriots..."
• Alan Hahn [05:28]: "I don't want to blame players like young players like Volpe..."
• Don Hahn [07:44]: "The guys that had so negative potential... have become."
• Alan Hahn [19:42]: "I'm saying I don't think so. There is something to that."
• Don Hahn [20:22]: "Player development to me is their biggest weakness."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and viewpoints shared by Don Hahn, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg on the episode "Standards & The List," providing listeners with a clear understanding of the topics covered without needing to tune into the podcast.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

There's one great difference. The Yankees don't have a salary cap. There's no restrictions on them. But you know what I mean? Like, that's the part that makes it difficult. It is hard in the NFL. And once you get an older team and you have to reset, it's really.

[Alan Hahn]

Difficult because you're overpaying guys.

[Don Hahn]

You have a cap situation. You gotta now make tough decisions. And when you have to move on from some veterans, you're gonna get worse. That is just how the cycle works. Excuse me, in the NFL, and they've been able, with Mahomes in Kansas City, they've been brilliant at it and be able to recycle around him and continue to put talent with him when they've had to do it. And Philadelphia is also showing you the same ability to do that, so they stay relevant year after year. So that's. That's where you get smart GMing. And I'm coming back to this one place, Don and I keep coming back to it because as a fan, I always try, you know, like, we always want to place blame. We always want to find what is gone wrong. Why. Why are things different? Why is the standard different and all that stuff. And I have reached a point where I don't want to blame players like young players like Volpe. I don't want to blame Gary Sanchez for not becoming what he should have been. And Glaber and anyone else that came through that was supposed to be part of the baby Bombers, where only Judge made it out of that group. Think about it. Only Judge made it. And it's because the organization failed them. And I go back to who's running this thing. Hal Steinbrenner writes the checks. He writes one of the biggest checks in the sport, year after year, willingly. It's the guy at the very top, who's spending the money, who is deciding on the style of play and how we're going to play and the methodology and on the development of the players. And have we found the Yankees in the last 15 years to take a young player in Their system judges the one guy that became a superstar. And that's the part of the standard that I'm talking about. When the Yankees became the Yankees again, it was because they got a core four plus one and they turned them into the new standard and a winning and the. And the guys that came up and it mattered to them and was important to them and they weren't going to accept kicking the ball around at Fenway park or playing the way they did in Toronto. They would never accept that. That goes on here now because you don't have a standard anymore. There's no demand anymore.

[Alan Hahn]

I could say, well, I don't even.

[Don Hahn]

Think it's not about just winning games.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't. I don't even think it's. Because I do think the fans hold them accountable and I do think the media gets on them when they should. But I think.

[Don Hahn]

But not nearly enough because you're right, they win every.

[Alan Hahn]

But I think one of the problems is it's very difficult to develop young players and win at the same time. I saw it with the Rangers, right? Capo Kako, Alexei Lafreniere. Maybe they weren't great players that deserve to be drafted as high as they were, but at the same time, I'm trying to develop that player and I'm trying to win games. So that means I might have to move them to different line. I just can't say, go out there and play. One of the things, unfortunately he's been hurt, but one of the things that's really helped Jack Hughes become a star with the Devils. When he first came up, there were no expectations. Let the kid go out and play. Let him play his 25 minutes, let him make his mistakes, whatever. Because winning wasn't the priority at that particular point. They were in the rebuild anyway and that helped him develop into becoming a star player. The guy that's drafted next is Capo Kako. Who? Listen, he's not Jack Hughes, but now he's on a team that's expected to go out there and win and compete. Same thing with Lexe Lafreniere. That's hard to do. Yes, it is. It's hard with the Yankees to develop young players. And oh, by the way, wait, if the Yankees were bad, Volpe could Just sit there and kick the ball around and be like, don't worry about it. He's just a kid. It doesn't matter. These games don't matter anyway. And maybe he develops into a star, but unfortunately, here you're under the pressure of trying to develop in the biggest market in the world, in every game, being sacrosanct. It's very difficult.

[Don Hahn]

Look, is the reason why the Knicks went from building through the draft to trading RJ Barrett and Emmanuel Quickley and all the other young talent that they were drafting that everybody fell in love with, and all of a sudden, Obi Toppin's playing for somebody else, and you know what I mean? Like, there's a reason why they flipped a roster of young draft players that the fans were falling in love with and turned it into a bunch of grizzled vets who knew how to win and understood standard and, you know, got them to a point now where they're one of the top teams in the NBA. That's just. That's a real thing. Because in New York, it's a lot harder to do with what they did in Oklahoma City. Right. So I totally understand that. But it also, along the way, not holding your young players accountable at all, allowed Gleyber Torres to become what he became. Allowed Gary Sanchez to become what he became.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

The guys that had. They had so negative potential, and instead they have become. Now, I know. I know Glaber was an All Star, but I mean. I mean, you know, come on. Like, you know, Sanchez, they have. They've never found their potential. And the only guy that really found.

[Alan Hahn]

It is Aaron Judge, generational player that was.

[Don Hahn]

I would credit him more than I.

[Alan Hahn]

It also helped him. I also helped. I think it helped Judge that he went to college. He was a little bit older.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, so that he maybe was a little more mature to handle it. And listen, you found the perfect guy.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

But as far. You can make the case.

[Don Hahn]

But Jeter can grow up around a group of veterans. He comes into a situation where the.

[Alan Hahn]

Rest of the team was.

[Don Hahn]

There was no kids around. He was the only one.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the one knock.

[Don Hahn]

And by the way, he wasn't great out of the gate. They had to work with him. They had to kind of push him a little bit.

[Alan Hahn]

But you can make the case that guys have digressed that Gleyber Torres looked like an absolute star when he came here from the Cubs. Right. I thought he was going to be digressed right out. And then he leaves, and now he goes to Detroit and he seems to have found him. Pressure's off because there's pressure, but there's also, you know, the ability to develop when winning isn't well, what also happens because again, you talked about lack of accountability. It's because there's so much accountability that these guys end up having their growth stunt. Because in other markets Volpe wouldn't be getting booed. He wouldn't have to shy away from social media. You say there's a lack of accountability and maybe to some of the writers, cuz it's not like back in the day where the vang the claws are out. But in this market, believe me, man, it's tough to struggle here, more so than in other places.

[Don Hahn]

But I don't mean again, I don't mean you're supposed to be tough on the kid. Again, I'm the one who said, you know, you don't, you can't boo Volpe into playing better. That's not what you do with a young player. But for the organization to kid gloves him while it's, while he's showing obvious struggles rather than like have a heart to heart, you know, we're going to.

[Alan Hahn]

Sit you kid because you got to.

[Don Hahn]

Get right, you're better than this. And let's focus on it. Instead of we're gonna go six weeks and then finally now have to acknowledge it, which is only gonna make it worse, not better. That's the only. So again, I don't wanna belabor this, but Don, when we talk about standard, this is, you could say all you want that it sounds like a spoiled fan, but for me, I just know that you just once you start giving in on, okay, we can dial back the expectations then it can. The standard continues to drop to a point where all of a sudden I forget, I just.

[Alan Hahn]

You're right, we can meet halfway in the sense that it's still a lot harder to win than back when the standard was developed. You know, the standard was developed for the Celtics and the Canadiens and the Yankees and.

[Don Hahn]

You mean in the 50s?

[Alan Hahn]

When, when, when. Yeah, when there was five, there wasn't a lot of team. There was eight teams in each league. And even now the standard that was built 25 years ago is different. We're getting to the age now, Alan, unfortunately, that you look back at 2001, 2002, 2003. It's just yesterday it was 20, 20 odd years ago. Times even changed since then. Just look, we haven't had a Repeat champion in 25 years. In baseball, the NBA has had several different champions. Over the last seven years. You're right. So the parody has struck especially baseball pretty hard. But that comes at the expense of the dynasty.

[Don Hahn]

But you still have the. There's a new definition of dynasty, which is the Chiefs are always there. The warriors were always there.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

There's the certain that's changing in the.

[Alan Hahn]

NBA now because Golden State's kind of going through it. As those guys are getting older, they're tougher to replace. And you said salary cap's a problem. I'm telling you, Kansas City is going to take a dip. As soon as Mahomes and Greed are gone, they're going to take the dip.

[Don Hahn]

Of course.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. It's just going to happen. It's inevitable. There's no way around it, especially in those cap sports. And even though baseball doesn't have a cabin, by the way, for now, they probably will have one. That's probably so brace your set and get ready.

[Don Hahn]

That's why I'm so tight. Well, maybe because I know that's coming. It's going to make it even harder because I don't trust this GM to operate with with a budget, but I don't trust them.

[Alan Hahn]

But. So the new dynasty is. Can you be relevant every year? Can you stay afloat every year and you still matter every year?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. In a cap. Brian Cashman, are you sure now that.

[Alan Hahn]

That I'm not sure, but I'm saying I don't think so. There is something to that.

[Don Hahn]

Then you really got to develop the other story.

[Alan Hahn]

Is the Met playing right now against the Padres game scoreless in the first inning? No. Juan Soto took a foul ball off of his foot yesterday. Not in the lineup today. Here's what Mendoza said before the game about how Soto is today.

[Don Hahn]

Better.

[Alan Hahn]

Better, but still sore. Getting treatment. Let's see where we at. He hasn't done anything. You know, he's in the training room. Hopefully he gets in the cages and see if he's available or not for the game.

[Don Hahn]

But a little bit better.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, do you feel that he dodged a bullet or you dodged a bullet with a soda situation?

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

So right now, talking to Juan, just looking at his face and things like that, I think we dodged a bullet here. So we'll say, and again, he's not playing today. 1-800-919-3776 let's go to Moose in Jamaica. You're on ESPN, New York. What's up, Moose?

[Moose]

What's going on, fellas? How are we?

[Alan Hahn]

Good, man.

[Moose]

How's it hanging with this weather? Oh my God.

[Alan Hahn]

We're inside right now. Everything's good.

[Moose]

You talking about Smash Burger and I'll get to my Yankees point but I'm waiting for one near me or someplace I can locate that's not in Manhattan with 30,000 people online for a Smash Burger because it's a West Cali thing.

[Don Hahn]

Order ahead and pick it up.

[Alan Hahn]

Ah.

[Don Hahn]

That's all you got to do. You get the app, you order it, you walk in, it's right in the. It's right in one of the cubes. You just grab and you go do it.

[Moose]

Just another one. But one for the Yankees later is a bit of a. And you discussed it. You touched on it how judge may or may not return to the field till whenever he does this season. And we need right handed hitter balance. But Stanton, I guess they came to the conclusion it's best for Stanton not to do it or maybe on a random occasion. But here's the thing. I'm going to see this and I don't know how the division is going to play out. And I'll read my call with this. We win the division. We don't. Let's say we go into a wild card series. Even if we win the division because we might not get the best record or top two records in the league, we're going to still have to, you know, have Rodin and Freed pitch the wild card series. But you still need four starters. We still need to get a top of the line starter. We can't be done yet with the deadline regardless of the bullpen. Thanks for taking my call.

[Alan Hahn]

We'll see who's available. You know, there's still some.

[Don Hahn]

Everybody's looking for bullpen.

[Alan Hahn]

Everybody but starting pitching. A lot of teams are looking to add that too. Because he makes up a good point. I mean if you win the division and you finish with one of the top two records, you could probably get away with just three starters. But if you're going to pitch in the wild card and then have to play a best of seven, a best of five series in the second round, you're going to need a fourth starter. And right now who would be their fourth starter? Right? Because you'd obviously have if you could line it up, Freed, Rodon, and then who's starting game three.

[Don Hahn]

Jeez.

[Alan Hahn]

Then there's the dip, right? Schlitler.

[Don Hahn]

It's amazing what he's been at. Warren. I would trust Slitler more than I.

[Alan Hahn]

Would trust if Strowman continues to pitch. He wasn't on the postseason roster last year. But considering what I have is if he pitches well down the stretch. Is he my game three guy? Listen, no other way around it. You're going to need another starting pitcher. We'll see if they can go out and do that. Griffin in Connecticut, always fun to talk to him. How are you, buddy?

[Griffin]

I'm good. By the way, the Yankees are not done. I don't, I don't see them done. By the way, you have until 6 o' clock tomorrow. So I think these, I think. I think what people don't realize is tomorrow is what everything's going to go crazy, that tomorrow's when you're going to start getting a lot of things because all the GMs and stuff are on the last minute trying to get things done. So I don't think the Yankees are done. I don't think the Mets are done. I don't think a lot of teams are done. I think these fans want it to happen now, but it can't happen now. It has to happen whenever, when you can figure out things. It can't happen when you want it to happen.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, I want to go, yeah, Louise, heel is the other. And we'll let you finish, Griffin. But you look at, with you look at Mania Montas and how they've been treated since coming back. Not going deep in the games like you hope that he'll comes back in time, that when you hit the playoffs that he's a guy that's going to give you six, seven.

[Don Hahn]

You got to give him the whole month of September.

[Alan Hahn]

Could take some time when you haven't pitched in so long.

[Don Hahn]

I completely agree.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going to wait and see. But you're right, he can be that guy.

[Don Hahn]

But Griffin's right in this sense that, that there is, there's moves that are going to be made. And you know, the most important thing is the bullpen, for sure, they are getting bats, especially righty bats, to help balance out the lineup and give them depth in the outfield and in the infield so they can move pieces around and have a little bit more of a versatile lineup game after game. But we also know that the bullpen thing, that is a major part of this. Everybody is battling for the same pool of players. Everybody is. The Texas Rangers are now back in it where they like, they really want to go for it. So they're going to be involved. And you know, the Astros are involved, the Red Sox are involved. The Dodgers, believe it or not, because they're, they, they have not been. Their pitching has really struggled. They're going to be involved. The Mets and Yankees could be fighting each other for the same pitchers. Like, think about this for a minute.

[Alan Hahn]

Like it's.

[Don Hahn]

This is going to be a battle royal tomorrow.

[Alan Hahn]

You are going to see who wins.

[Don Hahn]

The deadline, could win the World series.

[Alan Hahn]

Under 26 hours. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch this. Call him in the Bronx. You're on espn. New York.

[Griffin]

What'S going on, Hollywood?

[Don Hahn]

Han, Don, what's up?

[Griffin]

The points, the points you guys are making. I agree with a lot of what Don saying. You know, you take, you take the Yankee fandom out of it. You look at any other team you're playing. If I was a Giants fan or, you know, you as a Jets fan, Alan, if you told you you were 30 years above.500, you would be ecstatic. I would be through the moon if any success of any other franchise. But the thing that gets me so aggravated about the Yankees is, yeah, the money cures a lot of the issues, but you look at every, every move that they make. More often than not, it's a bad move. We could go chapter and verse through all the bad prospects that they didn't develop. We could go chapter and verse of the bad players that they waited too long and finally figured out. Even with judges contract, they should have done what Atlanta did, signed them earlier. They waited too long. They had to give them the big money. Everything you can point to is just too little too late. And everybody, all the fans, you guys, Michael K, everybody on espn, everybody with a podcast, they are blaringly yelling at the issues and then all of a sudden the Yankees figure it out so late. And then they look at us with such arrogance like they know better. And it's just like we know we're doing. That's what's the worst part about it.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, listen, there's flaws, man. And I think if they ever did institute a salary cap, which I think column, it's coming, definitely at least 50, 50 chance that's going to be happening at the next CBA that there's going to be a major challenge because now it's really coming down to who's the smartest general manager because they're all working from the same pot. So I've got, I've got no problem hammering Brian Cashman. I've been on the air saying that maybe it was time to move on from him. All right, so I'm not defending. I'm not defending anything. I agree with what a lot of Allen is saying. I'm just saying that sometimes if you took your Fandom out of it. And looked at the grand scheme of things, it's not that awful a position to be in compared to all the other teams in sports. But at the same time, you got to grade these guys. And listen, is it fair to say that the Yankees are probably in it every year because they have such a high payroll?

[Don Hahn]

Yes. Organizational depth.

[Alan Hahn]

And Michael always used to say that the second Brian Cashman gets let go, he'll have a job in 10 seconds.

[Don Hahn]

I don't know. Yeah, you know what I don't know about?

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, listen, will he consult? Will he have a. Yeah, but as far as judging him, listen, if I'm the Pirates, I might say, listen, I don't have $300 million to play with, and you did, and you've won once in the last 25 years. So maybe I'm gonna look elsewhere.

[Don Hahn]

And what's the evidence that Brian Cashman can show you that he can do things economically? I don't have that evidence. Because anytime he's tried to be cute about moves, they've never.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's the thing. That's the $64,000 question.

[Don Hahn]

Player development to me is their biggest weakness.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that why if I'm the smartest guy in the room and I've got all the analytics figured out and I've got the best general manager in sports, why in God's name do I have a 300 million dollar player?

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Alan Hahn]

I thought the money was supposed to compensate for not being very good at what we do. Right. Just like you're using the analytics when I don't have a lot of money to work with, you know, it's being, you know, you're the hottest girl at the club and also you got to be the smartest too, you know, like, why are we doing both? If you don't need both, why are we doing both?

[Don Hahn]

So now, you know, my biggest concern going forward with the cap is the fact that I don't know if this is the right guy for a cap world.

[Alan Hahn]

It may not be.

[Don Hahn]

That could, that could turn the Yankees then, but to the place that we don't ever want to see, which is a team that can't compete.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to get sick to your stomach? Yankees are one of the teams that are clamoring for a salary.

[Don Hahn]

I know.

[Alan Hahn]

So I don't know if they agree with you. No, I'm probably not. They probably don't.

[Anthony]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast casts.

[Alan Hahn]

Just made the list, buddy.

[Don Hahn]

This is the list with Don, Han and Rosenberg.

[Alan Hahn]

The list. We love the list.

[Don Hahn]

Love the list.

[Alan Hahn]

List was sponsored once upon a time. What happened? What happened to the guys over at bet365 sponsored by lists. They. They're done. They were cooked.

[Don Hahn]

List single. Did you forget it?

[Alan Hahn]

Please say you forgot it, because then I feel bad. Like, Jake's laughing. He knows.

[Don Hahn]

Mets made a. Made a move.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, Mets made it. While we're trying to figure that out, yeah, the Mets traded three players for Tyler Rogers. I used to be a Giant. Now with the Cincinnati Reds. He's the. He's the Submariner, if you remember. Little frustrating. The thing I remember about the Giants was like a lot of walks. And I kind of felt that. Now with the Giants, he did pretty well. 64 strikeouts last year, 22 walks. You'll take that. That's 3 to 1 ratio. But this year, 34 strikeouts, 19 walks, that's 2 to 1 ratio. That's not great. But overall, the Submarine guys, though, are.

[Don Hahn]

Like the Yankees at Rich Hill. Like those guys, you bring them in and it just changes things up a little bit. It's a different angle.

[Alan Hahn]

It's really a pain to have to deal with.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

But he's working at 2.45 earn run average. 2.40 the year before with the Giants. That's good. Yeah. So. So goodbye to. To Tidwell. Remember, what was it? Blade, Tidwell, Bhutto also gone. Anthony, who was the third guy that they got was Bhutto, Tidwell and Gilbert. So again, just another arm, which I like. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle. He does have that funky motion that can kind of disrupt things. You know, he's. He's a. He's a lefty. Another lefty they bring in because remember, they brought in. Soto was a lefty. Rayleigh came back off injury. He's a lefty. So they are collecting a bunch of lefties, which are pretty important. So again, doesn't do a lot for you. But it's not bullpen.

[Don Hahn]

You need pieces. This is what you're doing. You're rebuilding your bullpen.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, here's the list. And the idea came from Anthony Pusick. And this is the trade deadline. If I were a player, who are the five teams? The top five teams I would have on my no trade. I don't want to go there.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. So I got a no trade clause. I got five teams. Here are my top five teams that I would not want to be trading.

[Don Hahn]

You can do them in order or just five.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going to give you the five to one.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Go.

[Alan Hahn]

Number five would be the Angels. Now you say Southern California.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. What are you doing?

[Alan Hahn]

Because the team never wins. And you're not only the second team in town. Like how many people really care? So you're going to a great place to live. I agree. But I'm paying a ton in taxes. The team never wins.

[Don Hahn]

Orange County.

[Alan Hahn]

I had two of the best players in baseball and didn't come close to them.

[Don Hahn]

That's good.

[Alan Hahn]

Point Trout's been in the playoffs once his entire career. So I would have the Anaheim, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim at number four. Five, number four again, same theme. The White Sox.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, I love Chicago. It's one of my favorite cities. Great sports town. But nobody cares about the White Sox. They all care about the Cubs. They don't. Don't care about the White Sox. So why would I want to go someplace that a, they don't win and they're. No one cares. So kind of the Angels and White Sox are kind of 5 and 5A there. But those are. Those are 4, 5 and 4.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Number three. Not feeling the Orioles at all. Great ballpark, but. God, it's humid there in the summer. Not a great fan of the city. I've been there. It's okay. It's not great. Okay, but. And they also don't win well.

[Don Hahn]

They don't spend well.

[Alan Hahn]

They. They should start spending, but I. I'm not. I'm not feeling both.

[Don Hahn]

They had a whole bunch of young talent, and they just. Yeah, it's really.

[Alan Hahn]

Levels not well run. And the humidity there.

[Don Hahn]

It's true.

[Alan Hahn]

Just not. Not good. Number two. Sorry. I love the city. Oh, I want to go to Tampa. You know, where you might. Where am I playing? All right. Am I playing in a minor league stadium? I going to end up moving.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Like. And. Yeah, they're. They're run very well, but they. They're not winning anything, and they're kind of irrelevant in the city. So I would have Tampa at 2. Number 1. Number 1. I've got the A's.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know where I'm playing. I'm going to play in Sacramento. Am I going to Vegas? I'm hearing stories that Vegas is a ruse. That's not happening. So am I going to be bouncing all over the place? Not know. Am I going to be in Nashville? I want to. I got a family. I got twins, man. I want to know that I'm going to be. Going to place and at least for the length of my contract that I'm going to be there. And the team's going to be competitive. Right now they're a laughing stock playing in a minor league stadium in Sacramento for now. And May. May play in Vegas, may not play in Vegas. God knows where. They'd be number one on my list. So I've got Angels, White Sox, Orioles, Rays and A's. My top five.

[Don Hahn]

All right. I made a list, too.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

We have three of the same. And two.

[Alan Hahn]

Interesting.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, so mine, in order. Five. Kansas City.

[Alan Hahn]

Hmm. Very hot.

[Don Hahn]

It's just brutal.

[Alan Hahn]

There is a. At least now.

[Don Hahn]

Now they have a good. It's a good base.

[Alan Hahn]

Nice stadium, nice day.

[Don Hahn]

All that stuff is great. But it's like. It's in the middle of just.

[Alan Hahn]

I could see that.

[Don Hahn]

I'm good.

[Alan Hahn]

I could see that. All right.

[Don Hahn]

I'm good. Number four, Pittsburgh. What am I like again? Great stadium, nice sports town.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

No chance.

[Alan Hahn]

No chance of winning, but I thought about that. I thought about that, like baseball should do.

[Don Hahn]

So get him the hell out of there. They're never going to win.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

They're never Going to.

[Alan Hahn]

But I do, I do love the stadium. And I swing by, watch Penguins.

[Don Hahn]

Why the hell would I want to play there? I didn't say I didn't want to live.

[Alan Hahn]

I might miss. I might miss games early in the season to. To catch the Penguins, watch them hockey. Because I know October I'll be free. Like I'd rather, but maybe late in the season.

[Don Hahn]

So you want to be a pitcher?

[Alan Hahn]

No, these are. I like. I like both of them.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. So. So, so Pittsburgh for sure. Right. Then we're on the same wavelength. Three for me is Tampa. For all the reasons you said, the stadium issue, even when they rebuild the roof, that place is not a great place for baseball. I have. I've gone to games there. It's God awful. It just. Come on. No chance are they ever going to get a stadium. Probably not. It's a difficult area for them to build a stadium. Number two, I'm with you as well. Chicago White Sox, great town, but why would you want to be the Brooklyn Nets of baseball? You're in a town where 5% of the population cares about you. And that. That's got to be tough as a player to not feel like you're ever really relevant. And number one is the same as yours. The Oakland, Sacramento, Las Vegas. Because you just don't know what's going to happen there. And the only thing I would say is this is like Sacramento right now. It is a cool little vibe, small ballpark. You know that that little vibe might be kind of fun if you're a younger player, but if you're a vet trying to win, you're not going there. But don't you have to believe though, just to put a bow on it, Rob Manfred in baseball have got to figure out how to get that team to Vegas because if current ownership cannot come up with the finances to do.

[Alan Hahn]

It, baseball's got to do it.

[Don Hahn]

Somebody's got to do it. It right.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

You can't fail there. You've got to get to Vegas. You got to put a baseball team in Las Vegas, don't you? And it's got to be in a dome.

[Alan Hahn]

Obviously, you have to. Well, yeah, you can't get there, but.

[Don Hahn]

They have to do it, don't you think?

[Alan Hahn]

No, they have to. And baseball, you're right, needs to get behind it because. Yes, you, you. How? A home run for the Golden Knights expansion team. Never mind the fact that they won right away, but still, that building's full every night.

[Don Hahn]

People love it.

[Alan Hahn]

They love it. It's perfect. And then the Raiders completely rejuvenated now going there. The building's full. They care. Listen, they got a long way to go as far as putting a product on the field, but they made the right. The vagabond of la, Oakland. They found a place in Vegas. And it makes a lot of sense. I think the NBA is eventually going to get out there, figure it out. But baseball getting there, I just think it makes perfect sense, especially with a dome stadium.

[Don Hahn]

Because if you think about it early in the season, you can open it up latency. And if you ever get to the.

[Alan Hahn]

Playoffs, you got to retract it. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

How fantastic would it be if you could open it up now?

[Alan Hahn]

How.

[Don Hahn]

Especially if you can get like the lights from the Strip. I mean, are you kidding me?

[Alan Hahn]

It would look really cool.

[Don Hahn]

So it's. It feels. I mean, an All Star game, It feels so obvious. And if you're Rob Manfred, this has to be something that. We can't let this fall through the cracks. We can't let it fail. And if the current ownership can't get it done for whatever reason, we have to find people and invest in.

[Alan Hahn]

What they got to do is if they can't make it happen with the current ownership, then they've got to expand there. They're going to expand. All the leagues that have 32 teams, NBA and the major League Baseball will file, Will go with way. It's gone with football and hockey to get 32 teams.

[Don Hahn]

Did you see the NBA is again doubling down on what we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Adam Silver talking about Europe.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

And potentially forming a league in Europe. The NBA announced they're going to be playing regular season games now in Europe in the next couple of seasons.

[Alan Hahn]

Berlin and London.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And Paris. And so, like, they're. They're legit looking more to Europe than they are to places like Seattle and Vegas. But I think they are at 30 teams. I think they don't think they need more than 30 because unlike other sports, especially football, I don't think the NBA. I don't think there's enough basketball talent for 32 teams. I think it would water down the league. I know that sounds crazy, but it's a real thing. There's not enough superstar talent to fill out two more teams, two more franchises. I think it would weaken the league.

[Alan Hahn]

I. I want to apologize. I got the brothers confused. There's Tyler and there's Taylor. I was looking at Taylor stats. They got Tyler Rogers. All right, now I catch a break because they are brothers and they're Twins. And they're twins. They're twin. Right. So that makes the brothers recently. And they're. But yeah, and they're both within the last hour. Right?

[Don Hahn]

So Taylor was just traded earlier to the. To the Pittsburgh of all places, apparently.

[Alan Hahn]

And they both got traded and they both were Giants. One currently a Giant and. But the difference is one's left, this one's right handed. So lefty and righty. So they're twins.

[Don Hahn]

All right, so give me the. Give me the walks and strikeout. Here we go ratio.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. We got that straightened out type out. So this is. This is. I think, I think we're in a. I think we're in a better place.

[Don Hahn]

Feel. Feel better about this.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. How about this? 38 strikeouts, four walks.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God. That's very different.

[Alan Hahn]

Last year, 51 strikeouts, six walks. See?

[Don Hahn]

And you just traded it like.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't even want to do the math, but that's where. That's good. It's. That's not.

[Don Hahn]

I don't think you have to do the math.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, let's listen. 3 and 38, I think we're like. Yeah, you're like 10 to 1 ratio. Strikeouts to walks. Now that's a much. And a 1.80 earn run average. So listen, I do apologize. But you see where the mistake was made, right? They are twins. They both were Giants.

[Don Hahn]

They may be Giants, but one, but.

[Alan Hahn]

They got the better Rogers. Right? There was. There was a guy, God love him. Bob. Bob. Not. Not the Bob Grikowski that worked at the Garden. There's another Bob, Bobby G. We used to call him. Worked at Sportsphone.

[Don Hahn]

Bob.

[Alan Hahn]

Love Bob. I don't know if he ever ran into Bobby G. He's such a character. Was a stringer for a long time. Big Ranger fan when I first met him back in the 90s. Yes, Anthony, in the 90s. He was cutting out the Ranger box scores and putting them into a marble notebook. Like that's how much he loved the Ranger. And he'd always be like, we always get the wrong guy. We get the wrong oar. Right? You've got Colton Orr instead of Bobby Orr. Right. They got the wrong Messier with Jody Messier instead of Mark. Then they eventually got Mark Messier. You know, we got the wrong hall. We always get the wrong. We always get the wrong guy.

[Don Hahn]

Rocky Trachea.

[Alan Hahn]

Rocky was a. Was a first round pick of the Devils. You remember Rocky's trachea. Not like his brother.

[Don Hahn]

Wait, wait, there's others.

[Alan Hahn]

No, there's so many others.

[Don Hahn]

There's Well, I mean, this Brett Lindross. Right, Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, but. But the Rangers didn't get him. They actually got the right. Yeah, but. But just always complaining. We always get the. We always get the wrong guy. We got the wrong whore. We got the wrong hull. I got the wrong Rogers, but the Mets got the right Rogers. Checking out these stats, so. So thank you. I appreciate. Did you catch that? Or was it. Was it. Was it called in? Was somebody tweet what happened? Tell me. Tell me how. I was. A couple tweets about it, by the.

[Don Hahn]

Way, for a minute. Can we call out his parents?

[Alan Hahn]

And what's that now?

[Don Hahn]

One's named Taylor, the other one's Tyler. Are you really trying to confuse people? Like, honestly, did you have to make it that close? Taylor and Tyler, I mean, Don, it's very easy for you to mistake one for the other. They're. They're twins and their names are one letter apart.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but one's right and one's left.

[Don Hahn]

How'd that happen? Yeah, how about that? Is that normal?

[Alan Hahn]

But the righty's better than the left.

[Don Hahn]

Well, that's fine, but is it normal.

[Alan Hahn]

That I don't see that's.

[Don Hahn]

Are. Have the opposite hand.

[Alan Hahn]

Are they. Are they. Are they identical? They look identical if you're right. So how does that happen?

[Don Hahn]

I don't know. Isn't that interesting? One's lefty, one's righty.

[Alan Hahn]

Curious. I apologize.

[Don Hahn]

Apology accepted.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, well, you should be excited because I think they got the. They got the better Rogers. They got the better twin for once. The better Giant. The better. You can't say the better.

[Don Hahn]

They helped the bullpen, and that bullpen was. Had issues. Brazabon, they had to. They had to send him down. Too many walks. Brazaban, Bhutto, these guys, high walk guys, they have got to get more control. And this will certainly help that. Those numbers tell you he does not walk a lot. He does get you strikeouts, different arm angles. This is what you do to build up your bullpen. A good move for the Mets.

[Alan Hahn]

So again, I'm embarrassed. Anthony's gonna do the show the rest of the way.

[Don Hahn]

Let it go.

[Alan Hahn]

Let it go.

[Don Hahn]

You are a legend.

[Alan Hahn]

Let it go.

[Don Hahn]

You're allowed to make a mistake. Don't be like Volpe. And it gets in your head.

[Alan Hahn]

I can start getting the yeps now.

[Don Hahn]

You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

All kinds of mistakes.

[Don Hahn]

You're gonna second guess everything you hope.

[Alan Hahn]

I hope that doesn't happen.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, come on. You're a legend. Laugh it off. Keep it moving.

[Alan Hahn]

We got lots to do here on Peter Han and Don on the Fan.

[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alan Hahn]

The one song I don't like by Metallica dropped today in 1991. I should say I don't like the song but I hate when this is like always the song they reference when they talk about Metallica has nothing to do with Mo Rivera, me not liking the Yankees or whatever. Although Billy Wagner used it too. It's a good song but like I.

[Don Hahn]

Think it's a great song but dude, the intro is insane.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on. The build up.

[Don Hahn]

You don't like the intro and the.

[Alan Hahn]

Build up and then the intro build.

[Don Hahn]

Up and then it has oh my God, drop the beat. Drop. You know it's coming. Everybody does the air drums to this.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to hear songs?

[Don Hahn]

Come on, let the come on. Do the air drums right now. You're driving. Let go of the steering wheel and do the air drums right now. Ready?

[Alan Hahn]

This is. Come on. This is. I let not fire. You know what this is? This is. This is kids metal. This. This is what you start off the kids with so they don't get too crazy. You want to.

[Don Hahn]

Yanni need them whenever. Tell Yanni need him a story. He and Roman have a look at it. We're like, oh, Roman, he listens to hard rock too. And it's like, Nina was like, the music I listen to would make you cry.

[Alan Hahn]

There's a guy, Sean. Sean Rourke, over at the NHL, writes for the NHL.com. he told me that he was in the middle. He. He lent me a book that Yanni Nienama lend him. I think I told you about this, about Norwegian metal.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And how these, like, people, like, they burn churches. They're nuts. There's a band. Burzum guy went to prison for, like, murder. But the music's, like, really good. No, seriously. No. Because OJ and then there was the band.

[Don Hahn]

He was a really good football player.

[Alan Hahn]

And we were gonna.

[Don Hahn]

We were gonna really play.

[Alan Hahn]

We were gonna do the list, like, the top five album covers. And it popped into my head, there is a band. This is. This is. This is perfect for 1050. That there was a band called Mayhem.

[Don Hahn]

I've heard of that.

[Alan Hahn]

All right.

[Don Hahn]

I've heard of me.

[Alan Hahn]

And they were again, that Norwegian metal stuff. And one of the guys shot himself. One of the other band members found him, took a picture of it. Next album cover, the hour. Yep. People claim it's fake. If you want to go search it, be my guest.

[Don Hahn]

I'm doing it.

[Alan Hahn]

Look at Jacob's already, like. He's basically, like, staring right at it. Like, that's the kind of metal that Yanni Ninima used to listen to.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I believe it when you said, no, no. But he's like, I listen to. Where's the drop? Do you have it there?

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Make you cry Play, Play the Alan Hahn drop About the Yanni Nina. Jacob's hunting it down now. Never mind making you cry make you wet your pants He.

[Don Hahn]

He laughed at his hammer, like, was naming bands. And Yanni's looking at him like, please. Like you said, children's music. That's what that was.

[Alan Hahn]

But.

[Don Hahn]

But listen to a check in a fin. Arguing over heavy metal was hilarious.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm just saying, as a Metallica fan, I listened to that song. It's like training wheels metal.

[Don Hahn]

The type of music I listen to would make you cry.

[Alan Hahn]

I think would make you die is what it would do. Now let me, let me educate the listeners for a second because you don't get a chance to do that because all you guys know more than me. We just found that out. The last segment when I had the wrong. The wrong relief pitcher getting traded to the Mets. You throw battery up. Metallica batteries. He's like, I like the way the song starts and then it goes into air. Drumming. Yeah. No, Throw battery up there. And then. And then you tell me this is about.

[Don Hahn]

This is the album.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you think of that?

[Don Hahn]

Holy crap.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's not good. Not good. Not good, Bob. But you know what? The album's pretty good.

[Don Hahn]

Dawn of the Black Hearts is the name of the album. This poor guy is just.

[Alan Hahn]

Now you got battery there, Jacob. Because I want to. I want to educate Alan. I'm like what a good Metallica song sounds like. Go ahead.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

You hear the build up.

[Don Hahn]

Very similar.

[Alan Hahn]

They make you wait for it.

[Don Hahn]

Really want to make. They make you want it.

[Alan Hahn]

You never heard this song?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So when I think of Metallica, man, I got. We can get stuff off a killer all too well.

[Don Hahn]

I mean, here you go, right in your face.

[Alan Hahn]

Off to Never Neverland. Never Never Land. Yay. We're going to Neverland. No, it's this. Just. That's every one of those things. A punch in the face. Listen now, now it's going to kick. Now. Now you can now you get knock.

[Don Hahn]

Don's doing kickboxing right now in the studio.

[Alan Hahn]

I love it. Neverland. We're off to Neverland. God, I hate that song. Play some Creeping death. How about something off of Kill Them All Four Horsemen? Come on. Oh, they made a video and a train hit metal. It's so aggressive.

[Don Hahn]

I wasn't talking about the video. I was talking about the intensity of the build up.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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