Hour 2: Super Bowl Fraud & NFL Binge

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast

Hour 2: Super Bowl Fraud & NFL Binge

Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Episode Overview:
This episode dissects the concept of “fraud” fandom at the Super Bowl, unpacks celebrity allegiances, debates the authenticity of halftime show reactions, and reflects on the NFL’s biggest night—from the Seattle Seahawks' win to the electric halftime show. The trio’s characteristic mix of sports expertise, humor, and New York flavor is on full display, touching on media, fan culture, and even the harsh February weather.

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Main Themes

• “Super Bowl Fraud”: Celebrity Fandom & Authenticity
• Halftime Show Reactions—Subjective or Pre-decided?
• The NFL Binge: From Pre-game Sports Filler to Game Analysis
• Sports, Weather, & Everyday Life in NYC
• Celebrity Culture at the Big Game

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Super Bowl Fraud": Celebrity Fandom Explored

Timestamps: 00:41–10:55

The Sandler & Bon Jovi Debate

• The crew kicks off with chatter about who’s a “fraud fan”—those accused of false sports allegiance, especially celebrities at sporting events.
• Adam Sandler caught flak for wearing what some thought was a Patriots hat; it was a neutral Super Bowl hat (logos of both teams).
  • “He’s a Jet fan who could go to a Super Bowl...because he wants to go to a Super Bowl.” (B, 01:10)
• Bon Jovi was scrutinized for introducing the Patriots as a known Giants fan but close friend of Pats owner Robert Kraft.
• Peter Rosenberg is adamant:
  • “To be out there literally brought them out on the field to introduce another team if they’re not your team. Fraud.” (C, 01:57)
  • The discussion gets nuanced as they debate friendship vs. fandom. “If you actually care about another team...and then you introduce another team at the Super Bowl...non-rival or rival, fraud.” (C, 04:19)

Celebrity Fandom is Different

• Don argues that for celebrities, fandom often mixes with professional and social circles.
• Alan's research reveals:
  • Bon Jovi’s been a Patriots “guy” since Parcells, and notably close with Kraft since the 90s, showing up at games before their dynasty. “He’s a Patriots guy. In his adult life.” (A, 06:50)
• The group reflects: most celebrities aren’t true diehard fans—they’re in it for business, relationships, and lifestyle perks.
• Memorable quote:
  • “It’s not that I’m like a big fraud; I don’t love it the same way I love football.” (C, 09:43, reflecting on his own changing allegiance in adulthood)
• Don: “Celebrities are a lot like politicians when it comes to sports. Whatever’s going to garner the votes.” (B, 09:13)

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2. Halftime Show: Real Reactions or Pre-determined Takes?

Timestamps: 12:04–16:36

• Caller Jose starts a back-and-forth on how halftime shows (this year’s included a live wedding) are received and whether reactions are genuine or agenda-driven.
• Peter: “There are people who came in objectively who were moved.” (C, 13:48)
• Don: “If you said ‘fire’ or ‘that was one of the best performances I’ve seen,’ I believe that’s less politically motivated than...‘it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen.’” (B, 14:39)
• The segment closes on the empowerment message behind “She Twerks Alone,” Bad Bunny’s performance, and the idea that true negativity is usually coming from those wanting to dislike it for non-entertainment reasons.

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3. The NFL Binge: Before, During, and After the Big Game

Timestamps: 17:24–46:38

Pre-Super Bowl Rituals & Filler Sports

• Discussion on how hard-core fans and guests pass time before kickoff: soccer and curling as unlikely amusements.
• Don: “Pre-games don’t do it for you...you got to find some kind of competition.” (B, 18:39)
• Shout out to U.S. mixed doubles curling team “The Corys” competing for gold.

Celebrity Culture & The Big Game

• The Super Bowl as a cultural event for people who rarely watch a regular-season NFL game—highlighted by a story about Ebro, who now announces for the NFL but hasn’t watched a full regular season game in years.
• The spectacle of over 600 private jets at the Super Bowl, underscoring the non-football motives of many attendees.
  • “How many people are there...who do not watch football?” (C, 25:57)

The “Fraud” Label Applied Elsewhere

• The group jokingly labels various celebrities as “frauds” for shifting public stances, but always caveats that jobs and opportunity often come first.

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4. Super Bowl 60 Recap & Critiques

Timestamps: 29:05–35:47

Seattle Seahawks Crowned

• Seahawks beat Patriots 29-13; detailed recap with audio highlights.
• Defensive play by Uchenna Nwosu clinches the win.
  • “Seahawks defense may have done it again.” (A, 29:41)
• Play-by-play critique: Don teases the Seattle radio call for awkwardly calculating “how many years” since last win.
  • “You’ve had basically since the kickoff to know your team was winning...Don’t struggle with the years.” (B, 30:49)

MVP Discussion

• Praise for Kenneth Walker III’s patience as a runner.
• Debates about MVP choices, with Alan and Don emphasizing the value of performance under pressure.

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5. Weather, NYC Life, and Sports Fandom

Timestamps: 36:00–39:51

• Tangent on NYC’s brutal February cold—a reminder of sports’ place in real-life hardship.
• Humorous diatribe about the city’s dog poop problem in snow and the civic duty to pick up after your pet.
  • “Snow is not a poop catcher...My block is covered in feces. Jail.” (C, 38:44–39:07)

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6. Celebrity Gossip & Athlete Relationships

Timestamps: 41:12–44:55

• Rumor: Cardi B and Stephon Diggs broke up during the Super Bowl.
  • “Saying she left the game...broke up mid game.” (C, 41:32)
• Comparison to Klay Thompson and Meg Thee Stallion’s “nerdy meets hip hop royalty” relationship.
• Klay’s legacy as maybe the greatest catch-and-shoot shooter in NBA history.
  • “For a guy that understood my role is to be the knockdown shooter, he’s one of the best.” (A, 45:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Peter Rosenberg on fandom:
  “To be out there literally brought them out on the field to introduce another team if they're not your team. Fraud.” (C, 01:57)
• Alan Hahn on changing allegiances:
  “He's a Patriots guy. In his adult life.” (A, 06:50)
• Don La Greca on politicized fandom:
  “Celebrities are a lot like politicians when it comes to sports. Whatever's going to garner the votes...” (B, 09:13)
• On Bad Bunny halftime show reactions:
  “If you said 'fire' or 'that was one of the best performances I've ever seen,' I believe that's less politically motivated...” (B, 14:39)
• On New York weather:
  “You couldn't have a Super Bowl halftime performance either. The whole thing would have been in question.” (C, 36:16)
• On dog owners in the city:
  “Snow is not a poop catcher…Jail. I want to say it again. Send them right to jail.” (C, 38:44–38:59)

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Segment Timestamps

• Celebrity Fandom/Fraud Discussion: 00:41–10:55
• Halftime Show Reactions: 12:04–16:36
• NFL Binge & Filler Sports: 17:24–19:51
• Super Bowl 60 Analysis: 29:05–35:47
• NYC Winter & Life Talk: 36:00–39:51
• Celebrity & Athlete Dating Scene: 41:12–44:55

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Tone & Style

• Sharp, banter-heavy, and self-aware.
• Intimate New York sports radio style with playful ribbing (“Jail!”) and candid takes.
• Mixes informed sports analysis with irreverent pop culture commentary and lifestyle gripes.
• Occasional forays into tongue-in-cheek exaggeration (especially re: “fraud” labeling).

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TL;DR

A classic Don, Hahn & Rosenberg hour: Sports fanaticism, celebrity culture, and New York realities collide. They expose the slippery nature of fandom in the era of celebrity access, break down the Seahawks' Super Bowl win, and celebrate the unfiltered feelings—from halftime show takes to the pain of living in icy Manhattan. If you missed it, you’ll come away with the big debates, colorful analogies, and the inside jokes that make this show beloved by its audience.

Transcript

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This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

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That sounds like heaven to me.

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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New.

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York app, and your smart speakers.

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It'll be a Rolling Stone song.

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It'll be a tough list. It's not easy.

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I'm going to try it.

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50 years, you could do. You could do one song from each decade and still be leaving out somebody.

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Oh, listen, I am going to. I am setting myself up for Pure Failure. I like it, though, on Wednesday. But so what? There's a good chance I would have failed anyway, so might as well just go out with a huge. Just huge bang. All right, a couple of things.

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I'm all for that.

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On the fraud side of things.

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Yeah. What's this about?

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One I don't think is worth discussing. The other I think is, I think Adam Sandler got unfair criticism for being a fraud because people thought that the super bowl hat he had on was a Patriot hat. It wasn't. It was a Super bowl hat that had the. Both logos.

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Logos, yeah.

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He's a Jet fan who could go to a Super bowl that doesn't involve the jets because he wants to go to a Super Bowl.

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Okay, got it. And it was a generic.

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And the angle they showed him, you saw just the Patriot look.

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I think they may have said on tv.

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I think Tirico said that he was.

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There supporting the Patriots.

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Yeah. Because he's from, I think, New Hampshire. Right. I know he's from New England somewhere.

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Right.

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And of course, he's got the Bruin jersey and Happy Gilmore. But if you know him, he's a Jet fan, so I thought that was fair. Shade. But how do we feel about Bon Jovi?

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I feel very strange now.

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I think it's worth the discussion because he grew up a Giant fan, but he's friends with Robert Kraft and he introduced the Patriots and he was obviously rooting for the Patriots.

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Fraud.

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Does that make him a fraud?

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Yes.

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Why?

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To be out there literally brought them out on the field to introduce another team if they're not your team. Fraud.

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I think that's worth a discussion. I think Peter makes a very interesting point. What is your feeling now, before I give you my feeling.

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Fraud.

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Or as Peter would say, nah, I gotta go, nah.

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I don't know.

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Fraud.

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How so I go, nah, because if Don, you bought a franchise, I'd support you.

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Even if it were.

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If you bought. Let's say, you. You become a billionaire, okay. And you decide you're buying. You're gonna buy the Devils. The Devils are In the Stanley Cup Final.

[C]

This is all a bad comp already.

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But why is it a bad comp?

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Because he didn't. He didn't know Robert Kraft before. Robert Kraft owned the Patriots, I'm sure.

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Yeah, that is true.

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They're friends because he owns the Patriots.

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All right, so you become.

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I just feel like, again, it's. It's a personal connection. I'm supporting you. Does that mean that I'm all in?

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Well, because.

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Because, like, how, like, first of all, I'm that guy. If I'm like, yeah, I'm not. I'm not rooting for you, team. Sorry, I can't do it like that. Come on, like.

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But he has to be over the top.

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They're close enough, aren't they, business partners?

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Yes.

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They're close enough in things that you're like, I'm here for you. Here's this yo, yo stuff with fans. Like, I, you know, grown men.

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I honestly don't know how big a Giant fan Jon Bon Jovi is.

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Let me guess. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go wild. Guess wasn't really. But he leaned into it because of the jersey.

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But let's just say for sake of argument, yeah, probably still a huge Giant fan. What are the Patriots to the Giants? It's a team you beat twice in the Super Bowl. There's that too, you know, I mean, honestly, they don't play in the same conference. Now, if you're a Giant Yankee fan, maybe you're like, I don't like Boston, so I hate the Patriots. I hate the Red Sox, I hate the Celtics. If I'm a Nick fan, so I'm going to hate the Patriots. But it's a team you beat, in some cases humiliated in the super bowl, you ended their perfect season. And you're friends with the owner. I mean, it's not like he's friends with, you know, Jerry Jones. And introducing the Dallas Cowboys, the Philadelphia Eagles.

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If you actually care about another team, because we don't know if he does. But if you actually care about another team and then you introduce another team at the super bowl, you are a non rival, even a non rival fraud.

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All right, so you're a big commanders.

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I would say so, yeah. Thank you.

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But you rub elbows with really famous people.

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Sure. And I love, and I love players on other teams. I would never be the voice to introduce the Giants into the Super Bowl.

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And you became friends with Woody Johnson. This became really just whatever. You did business together. You really love the cut of his jib. Just. You became close don't know how it happened.

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Okay, picture.

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But you become very close, and for a decade, you're like best friends. You hang out all the time together also.

[C]

Are they that close?

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I don't know. I think they're kind of close.

[C]

I mean, they can't be that. I mean, come on. Best friends.

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And you're. And you're a pretty big celebrity. And during those 10 years, getting to know Woody Johnson, But a tough time for you. You become a sensation. You become as big as Jon Bon Jovi.

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Well, what a time.

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Take it.

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And Woody says to you, hey, we finally made it to the Super Bowl. Introduce us to the Super Bowl. You're going to say no, because I'm a Commander's fan, probably. Interesting.

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I think I would. Yeah. I mean, it's football. This isn't unrelated to the thing I'm passionate about. I'm very passionate about it. If I. If I had the audacity to introduce the Jets. Listen, how about this? If they asked me to host a regular season game unrelated to the Commanders, they're like, can you do the thing where you welcome everybody in, you shout everybody out at the end? We do it. We do a Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. They're playing Buffalo. Commanders play Sunday Night Football. We just need you to host a regular season game. Sure, sure. Not a big deal. Just a hosting gig. Going to the super bowl to bring them out onto the field. Nah, I can't do it.

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All right, here's a couple of things. Just doing a quick research.

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You're not wrong.

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Just quick research.

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He's doing some research, folks.

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Quick research. He got into the Patriots when Parcells got there. They play Living on a Prayer at Gillette. That's like the song, right? He and Kraft have been close since the 90s. He has been seen on the field at Patriots games for years, well before the dynasty even began. He's been around that franchise a lot.

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So the bottom line is, he's not a fraud. He's a Patriots guy.

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He's. That's what he's become. He's become a Patriots guy. In his adult life. Was there any connection to the Giants? There was because of Parcells and Belichick. And when they went, they. And he was like, those are my guys. And he just got into them.

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Okay, well, that's still a fraud. It's still a fraud, but I respect it.

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But here's why.

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He's not really that, like, he likes.

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Sports put into these celebrities. I think we have to realize there are a few celebrities that are truly Die hard fans of teams. But at the end of the day it's about business. Right. Because Sandler is supposedly a Ranger fan. So you would think in Happy Gilmore he. He would have wore a Ranger jersey and not a Bruin jersey. But the reason he probably wore a Bruin jersey was because that made the storyline made more sense because he was a slave to hey, I'm just trying to make a good movie. And it makes more sense for me to be a Boston guy wearing a Bruin jersey. Maybe that tested higher than the Rangers. I don't know. That's what it's all about. It's about business. Because you know what he cares more about? Sports, movies, being funny, being a celebrity.

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So that's the bottom line is that.

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When they, when the again, Spike has.

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Been around in Spike Lee loves the Knicks. He loves the Knicks, but he's been around like he's a he. Also baseball wise with the Dodgers, what was he wearing? Because of Brooklyn. Brooklyn Dodgers.

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And maybe not now, but you know what it'd be, it'd be interesting. And if he's listening, feel free to call because Spike's a friend of the show is now he could do whatever he wants because he's one of the most famous directors of all time.

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Right.

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But when he was making do the right Thing. Right. If there was a scene in which he had to maybe be anti Nick.

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You wouldn't do it, Woody.

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I mean that early in his career if he said, hey, you know, we tested it with audiences and that Nick jersey just didn't fly. So we need you to put another.

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Like what's the famous scene? And do the right thing with the Celtics. It's not a Knick jersey. It's about Boston and the Celtics about.

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Right.

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It was about a guy, a white guy wearing a Larry Bird jersey. Which by the way, talk about foreshadowing when it comes to Brooklyn.

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Yeah.

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In that neighborhood very early. Right. But still like that. But that's what he did instead of bringing Knicks element into.

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I think celebrities are like a lot like politicians when it comes to sports. Whatever's going to garner the votes for every, for every Giuliani that just was unabashed Yankee fan. Most of them are down the line because they want to try to get votes. They want everybody to like them. I think there's a more use sports for that. I think celebrities do the same thing.

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I think there's a more human thing. We're not, we're complicating this. If you're not an obsessive Fan with the team.

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That.

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And then you just become an adult. I got news for you guys. Look at me in baseball. It's not that I'm like a big fraud. I don't love it the same way I love football. So if you're Bon Jovi, and, yeah, you were a Giants fan, but then you became friends. You went to a couple games, then you became buddies with the people who were on the team, then you became an adult, and football's just not that important to you. Well, now it's just, who are you friends with? Who invites you in the suite?

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Think while he's introducing a very good friend. He has done speeches at Robert Kraft, like, honoring Robert Kraft and stuff.

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It's not like friendship.

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So for him, do you think he gives a damn that somebody's like, they don't get it. I'm a fraud. How's it working out?

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They don't get it. And you know what? Here's the comp for you, Celtic fan.

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Yeah.

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If all of a sudden, you know, you've even said, if the Knicks made a run, and the Knicks said, listen, game seven, Madison Square Garden. I want you to introduce the team. You'd be out there. You'd leave a vapor trail on your way to the Garden. They asked you, come on.

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I probably would not say no to that yet.

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Brunson and Hart have a big party after winning the NBA championship. They need somebody to be like a voiceover guy, spin some music. And they're like, you know, I'm not.

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I'm not enough of a Celtics fan, the way I'm a commander's fan, that I would tell them no. I'd be like, no, I'm going.

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Right.

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And my wife wants to go. And it's going to be fun.

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We want you to narrate the Knicks dvd. Championship dvd.

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Strong.

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Wow.

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In which, first of all, Allen.

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First of all, I'd have to. Then Alan's very. To find a way in. Freddy Kitchen's voice. Cut his tongue out.

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Right? Yeah. You got to do it in Freddy Keegan voice.

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Very select few people.

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Jalen Bruce want this big Mitch.

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Oh, no, he can't do it. Sure can. He can't do it.

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Knicks beat the Celtics in six.

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A team of destiny called the New York Knickerbockers by Freddie Keith. Their team philosophy, every night for 80s, some odd games. I think 80, 90 games.

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Whatever they played 82.

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They would come in and their attitude every night was, we go, kid. Yeah, I can see it. I can see it happen.

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That actually be Hilarious.

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That would be funny. All right, let's go to Jose in Connecticut. You're on espn, New York. What's up, Jose?

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My guys.

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What's up, man? I gotta say, first, I disagree with the thing where, like, if someone thought that halftime show was great, they're wrong. Like that to me. And not just about the music, but, like, there's, like. He just set the bar for, like, artists to tell stories in the halftime show. There was. There was a wedding, for crying out loud.

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A real wedding. That was cool.

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Real weddings. Pretty.

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Pretty sweet.

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That was very cool. But didn't Kendrick tell stories? No.

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Even Peter could admit there was way more stories in this one than last year. There was. There were cameos, businesses, cultural references. Like, it was great. And not. Not just saying that for him. But I would love another artist, let's say, even like a. Let's say you have a heavy metal. I want to, like, tell stories, like, do some callbacks, cultural references that Don will get and tell a story about. You know what I mean? So that was just my take on.

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By the way, again, I. I'm. I'm not. I'm not here to tell somebody how they're supposed to feel about it. If you felt great about it, great. I'm just saying there are some that are just like. Like, Don said it. The best story was already written. Just waiting for it then, so I could hit send, right?

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Yeah, but no, you're.

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You're premeditated.

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But no, there aren't.

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That's necessary.

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But there are some people who just, like.

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There are other people that. I'm not saying I didn't like it.

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No, no, no. But, like. But I'm saying there are people who didn't write the story beforehand. Like, my brother's a good example, doesn't care about Bad Bunny, did not have an opinion on it. Like, unlike me, didn't go to the concert and, like, texted me immediately off afterwards. Like, yo, that was fire. Just completely on his own. He's not. He's not even. He's barely on social media. He's intentionally not paying attention to politics for the last six months. He was just like, yo, that was fire. So I just disagree that you couldn't come away from it objectively. Be like, I thought that was an awesome performance.

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I think you could feel it was visually great.

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But I think you're. You're. But that this is your personal was. It just didn't move you. I'm telling you, there are people who came in objectively who were moved again.

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Because I don't want to. Because you're not. Things are today. I'm not saying I wasn't moved. I'm not saying I wasn't interested. I didn't get up. I didn't be like, I'm good. I didn't do any of that. I just hadn't watched it. Like, it's cool, right? Like, it was interesting. A couple things that happened. Like, okay. And you know, like, I'm not saying.

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I'm not saying you're wrong for that. I'm just saying the earlier on the show, we basically said if you felt a really strong way about it, you'd already decided that.

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Yeah.

[C]

I'm saying no, that's true of the people who hated it. Not there are people who loved it.

[B]

Who.

[C]

In earnest.

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People that are saying they loved it.

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Sure.

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Saying it true. Because it's the same thing.

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To die honestly. And again, I'm neutral. I don't know anything about Bad Bunny. I did not know any of the songs.

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Right.

[B]

If you said fire or that was one of the best performances I've ever seen, I believe that's less politically motivated than if you just said, it's one of the worst things I've ever said. There's no way anybody could have watch that.

[C]

That's my point. You're making my point better.

[A]

It's terrible.

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And say, that's the worst thing I've ever seen. No way. There's no way you can have that opinion unless you are politically driven to that opinion.

[A]

There were so many things.

[B]

Maybe it didn't move you. Maybe you thought, eh, but. But despite it, there was no way you looked at and said, that's terrible.

[A]

Let me just put it this way. Even if, like, you're like, I didn't understand a thing he was saying. First of all, I didn't really understand half of what Kendrick was saying last year either. So don't mind the language thing, but I'm talking about if there wasn't one thing, which maybe you like the wedding thing, maybe you like the fact that there were a lot of beautiful dancing Latinas out there.

[C]

Because I did notice that.

[A]

I mean, if you did not like that.

[C]

I tried to say, but that's a you problem. Leading up to it, I tried to say, well, I think if you're not.

[B]

That doesn't bother me.

[C]

You're still going to be interested.

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I tried to tell them, bother me.

[B]

There was a woman at the party that translated one of the things. It was either on the board or he sang. Okay, that was. She Twerks alone, I guess. Yes, yes, yes. Right. So I mean, that song.

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So that song, that is like a women empowerment song. We're basically. It's like the concept, and I've had this explained by Laura is like, the concept of it is like, fellas, sometimes girls go out and they want to party and basically twerk on their own. Leave them alone. Like, sometimes girls just want to have a night to be girls. And it was a controversial song when he did it because he did the video and dressed up as a woman. That's who bet. Like, he pushes boundaries.

[A]

He didn't do.

[C]

He did not come close to doing it. A straight couple got married in the middle. It was a really down. Your point. It was a very down the middle. Easily, easy to like. And to Alan's point, if it's not your kind of music, easy to be like, ah, give me the nachos. I don't really care. But hard to come away from it being, like, angry. Oh, my God.

[B]

It was pretty nice that you were gonna have that no matter what.

[C]

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[A]

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[D]

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[B]

So I told you, we're at the party. And there were. There were two separate rooms that had the TV on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now we got to the party, it was after four. So we're still two hours and a half.

[A]

That's way too early when you have.

[B]

Nothing on the nick game was already over. You'd be surprised what you find yourself getting into. They had. You know, I'm not a soccer guy, but they had Real Madrid on espn. Oh, boy. Versus Valencia. There's two nothing final Real Madrid one. I found my getting into it when there was nothing else.

[A]

You Were into the game.

[B]

When.

[C]

When was this? Now.

[B]

Before the Super Bowl. Before. So this is like five o'.

[C]

Clock.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then somebody turned like channel NBC. They had an app. So it was like YouTube TV thinking they're putting a Super bowl on. But instead it was NBC. They were showing curly.

[A]

Oh, just the best.

[B]

Once you start to figure out what they're trying to do. I found myself kind of interested.

[A]

So it's so good.

[B]

Now this is what happens when. Because. Because this unfortunately. And no one, no one on this planet has done more pre and post than I am. But this just tells you if you're a die hard sports fan, pre games don't do it for you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So you got to find some kind of competition. And if you're watching curling, then you're into competition because it's.

[A]

It's curling sweeping.

[C]

Right.

[A]

It's cleaning up.

[B]

But if that's all you got. Kind of like we talked about before, about how that, you know, the poinsettia ball becomes a big deal when you're stuck at a party and. And you don't really know very many people. But that college, that rogue college football around. Steve.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It hits tip all of a sudden. Now you're like totally in on that game. That's. I found myself into the soccer and curling.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When you're not a big pregame shout.

[A]

Out to our mixed doubles team, by the way, they're going to compete for the gold medal. The Corys. The Coreys won today against the reigning defending gold medalists in Italy. And now they get a chance to get gold. And we've never had a medal in mixed curling. How about that? The Corey's getting it done.

[B]

I don't know how one gets into curling.

[A]

You like to sweep.

[C]

You got to be just into sweeping to start out with.

[A]

I don't think we have a training facility. I think those are Minnesota, Wisconsin. Like they've got them. They have them. I'm sure there's one in Connecticut, but we don't have them here. I think there might be one in Connecticut that I've heard of. Any place where there's hockey arenas. Yeah, if you've liked those winter sports, you probably have a curling arena somewhere.

[B]

Yeah, it's crazy, man.

[A]

Probably a fun game.

[B]

Let's squeeze in. Dan in Saratoga. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Dan?

[D]

Hey, what's going on, guys?

[B]

It's all going.

[D]

Hey. So last night I thought the halftime show was actually pretty good. I was indifferent going in. Wasn't sure what to think. I had a lot of people telling me how ridiculous it was, but I kind of went in with the open mind. I actually enjoyed it. But me, let's be real here. The real winner last night was Joe Burrow. Go ahead, you guys. You guys have seen who he brought to the Super Bowl. Let's just put it that way. No, I mean, this guy.

[C]

Hold on. I'm going on the Twitter right now. Is it.

[A]

Is it something on his arm?

[D]

I mean, I'm not sure. I know he was spotted at some parties the night before and I was just looking on Internet. I mean, he's a real winner of last night, let's just put it that way.

[A]

A real mvp.

[D]

But you know what? I would love to have seen do a Super bowl halftime.

[C]

I have one thing to say. I just looked at a picture and I'd like to say one thing.

[B]

God bless.

[C]

God bless. Who? It looks like influencer Sophie. Julia. I don't know who that is. I don't know. I know one thing. God bless.

[B]

I thought.

[D]

God bless me bless.

[A]

Yeah, I thought he. I thought he was involved, but apparently.

[C]

Oh, he's involved.

[A]

No, he is.

[C]

That's your ace.

[B]

You thought he was taken. So, Sophie, what is it?

[C]

Sophie Julia.

[A]

Yeah, he was.

[C]

He.

[A]

So this story says he was linked to a SI model previously, but now. Oh, do you know how old she is?

[D]

And 10 years older than him, too. She's 37, apparently.

[A]

No way. Not a chance, right? Yeah, she's 37.

[C]

This woman is 37 years old, man.

[A]

He's got the Macaulay Culkin look going.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

You see this one?

[B]

She spelled Julia J, U.

[C]

But meanwhile, Don won't see it till Thursday. But God bless.

[D]

So you know who I would have loved to perform? That's impossible now. David Bowie.

[C]

It's going to be tough to get him at this point.

[D]

Well, I know it's impossible. Maybe he would have been really good if you saw.

[A]

Did you see some of the AI commercials? There was the one commercial that. How did you miss him? To all the 90. All the 90s actors.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All interacting.

[B]

Who's to say we just don't end up getting hologram?

[A]

Yeah, just go there. You can have anybody perform now.

[B]

Yeah, David Bowie would have been interesting, for sure.

[C]

Yeah, he would have been a good one, man.

[A]

Yeah, he would have. He would have got some people clutching pearls, you know.

[C]

Oh, for sure. You don't know what he would. Shut up looking like.

[A]

People like to. Like to have that selective amnesia. Yeah. They don't have greats Give me somebody good like David Bo.

[B]

He believe me.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He dressed like a woman back.

[A]

Yeah, he wore a dress.

[C]

The king of Andrade.

[A]

Yeah. And makeup.

[B]

I was just saying for the people that have problems with that in the early 70s, you would have had a lot of problems with rock and roll, I will tell you.

[A]

Great point.

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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[C]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[A]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[C]

This is. We're gonna rub football all over ourselves today.

[B]

I did consume a lot of football back in the day. Pre kids in my underwear.

[A]

The NFL binge.

[C]

You watch. Enrique baby, are you watching? Oh, like you dream about, folks.

[B]

Our final one, right?

[C]

Well, no, we're gonna keep it going. We don't stop. You know, it's. I don't know if you know this, Don. You know where the super bowl is.

[A]

Next year and we sofi. We host.

[B]

Football.

[A]

All espn. It's gonna be great.

[C]

So speaking of which, ESPN and ABC are in the midst of the handoff. The handoff in recognition of our company being the host of Super Bowl 61 next year at SoFi in LA. Starting last night with SportsCenter, with SVP, and currently with NFL Live, we've been live with exclusive reveals and original storytelling. Keep your eye out for more exciting reveals. In the lead up to Super Bowl 61 in Los Angeles, I'm sensing next year is a return to super bowl week. At least for me. I feel like I want to go next year. LA may be the year.

[A]

Radio Row.

[C]

Yeah, why not? I mean, I was. I brought it up to all of us, like six months ago, was like, hey, should we go back? Like, does it feel like the right thing to do?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we didn't get a whole lot of movement. My feeling is next year we'll be able to get a little bit more movement.

[A]

Thanks. So. Huh.

[C]

I would. I would hope.

[B]

So.

[A]

So you in the Giants are in it?

[C]

Oh, yeah, for sure. But just in general, I felt. I did feel a little left out this year. I mean, like, in one sense it looked annoying and I was happy to not be there. And then other moments, depending on the picture that was posted, it would affect me differently. How crazy is it? By the way, I made fun of Ebro for this the other day. Ebro has not watched an entire NFL game. Not out of any sort of principle, just out of sheer busyness. He's a Raiders fan and they stink. He's got kids and on the weekend he's just got too much going on. Just doesn't watch full games except the super bowl, which he watches in person every year. How many people are there, you think, who do not watch football?

[B]

Probably a lot of people in that game.

[A]

How many PJs were parked at the airport? Did you see that photo? The aerial photo?

[C]

I did not.

[A]

Oh, my. Dude, it was.

[C]

It said over 600 private jets.

[A]

It was embarrassing. How many of them all parked in like this giant cluster, like it was a car parking lot. And then there was this live graphic that was sped up, of course, of just one by one after the game, them just taking off, everybody just going back to wherever the hell they are.

[C]

Destroying our environment together as a team and all.

[A]

And all of them, I would say, are probably in the same category of I don't really watch the NFL, but I'm not going to the Super Bowl.

[C]

No, the super bowl is a good time. That's a great point. I guess in my life, Ebro's the only one.

[B]

Yeah, but suggesting he's a fraud?

[C]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Not at all. I mean, he could be a fraud about.

[A]

Don't know you.

[C]

He's a fraud about many things when it comes to sports, but not because his job has him go to. If you want fraud. Now, here's the fraud part. The fraud part is Ebro was Mr. Anti NFL, okay. In the Kaepernick era, right? And last night, literally, his voice was the NFL thanks you for watching halftime. He's literally the voice of the NFL now. That's fraud. It's your job, though.

[B]

It's your job of the NFL. Or is he the voice of.

[C]

It's the voice of Apple. But in that moment, they don't say apple thanks you. They say the NFL thanks you. That's you.

[B]

That.

[C]

That means you're.

[A]

You're working at the door, taking the blood money.

[C]

Now, listen, I would take it, too, of course. A great. He was. He was in the suite with Bieber, Dave Grohl. I mean, Kendall Jenner. So.

[A]

By the way, Justin, everything's good. Because wasn't there some stuff.

[C]

Justin Haley.

[A]

Yeah. After the. The Grammys, there was some.

[C]

There are always stories.

[A]

I saw them together. I'm like, oh, wait, they're good.

[C]

I think they're fine. I think everyone's always got a story that things are bad with Justin. Like, it's. It's weird.

[A]

Wanted. They don't want.

[B]

It's weird.

[C]

It's weird.

[A]

I mean, this is the most stable he's been in a long time.

[C]

He puts off an energy that's aloof and weird. But I. Ebro said he seemed fine.

[A]

Good.

[C]

I want to. So in case anyone's concerned, I was. I have it directly. Ebro said he seemed good.

[A]

He's good, right?

[C]

JB to you and me. All right, guys. Well, we've been talking about it just a bit. The Seahawks beat the Patriots in such a Memorable Super Bowl. 29 13. Win Super Bowl 60, 29 13. That's a cover to you and me, folks.

[A]

So memorable, I forgot.

[C]

A defensive battle for much of the.

[A]

Game, like you dream about.

[C]

But Seattle appeared to be the better team most of the night. Started to pull away when Drake May started making mistakes.

[A]

And the Patriots, they continue to live. First and 10 at the Seattle 44.

[C]

Here comes the blitz. May handsy tries to throw. Ball comes out going the other way with it turning up field. It's Chananowsu. And he scores. Touchdown, Seahawks. The Seahawks defense may have done it again.

[A]

That is very good. Not steppage.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you could hear how Betty wanted to step. Oh, yeah, he giggled.

[C]

It was the clincher. It was the super bowl clincher.

[A]

He went boom. But then he knew. Shut up. Right? That was well done.

[C]

Let's hear how they did on the final call. This is from Seattle Sports. 7, 10, single receiver, right May dumps it off underneath. Ball is caught. It's the running back. It's Henderson. He is tackled in bounds. 3, 2, 1. Seahawks, they're bringing it home again. For the second time in less than 12 years, the Seahawks win Super Bowl 60. They are bringing the Lombardi back to the Northwest. And the party begins at Levi Stadium and in Seattle. And it won't stop for days.

[A]

Don, your thoughts as a play by play guy?

[B]

Oh, who am I?

[A]

Come on. You're Don Leggrae.

[C]

You're just Don Pucks.

[B]

I. I'm in no position.

[C]

But you didn't care for it, did you?

[A]

You didn't like it.

[C]

Well, you're hesitating.

[B]

It was a lot.

[A]

How about let's just let the crowd like, like, lay out of it?

[B]

No, if I had a critique, it would be you've had basically since the kickoff to know your team was winning the Super Bowl. So don't struggle with the. The years. Like he was doing the math. Like he was doing the math in his head.

[A]

So glad.

[B]

You should have that, like, already worked out. Right. So that's all I would say, right? No, that's all I'm saying. It's like you knew otherwise. You know, it's great energy, all that. He just decided to just do the math in real time. He actually did a very good job. It's just that you could sense the little bit of the delay and why. Why burden yourself in that moment to do math?

[A]

Well, you also had two weeks to know that it's been either 12 years or not 12 years.

[B]

Yeah, I would. Dozen hits different.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Wouldn't you have also pre scripted something like. Even with bullets? Just a couple of things that if it happens, this is what I want to hit.

[B]

Right? Yeah. I don't believe in scripting it because you want it to be natural, but you still. It should be like an outline. If I'm going to go with how long it's been, let's nail down the number. Because if I had to do math in front of a live audience like that, Peter will tell you it never goes well. No Super Bowl.

[C]

Oh, for example, we've got drops.

[A]

We have drops.

[C]

There are several, several drops of Don and math that just are not. It's not positive. So you Want to do the work in advance?

[A]

What you're saying we have drops of Don failing at math?

[C]

Of course we do. Several.

[B]

Two that I can think of.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

I already guess. And then add 1060. Then divide it by 4 12. No. 20. No. The Yankees have played seven doubleheaders this year. Don and Peter, that's 14 games. What do you think their record is? 6 and 1. So as you can see, Don needs time. And that's why you should take the time and you think.

[B]

Right. Do it in advance.

[C]

Also, can I just say that I do think we live in an era where sometimes, occasionally, and I was glad Tirico didn't do it yesterday. Sometimes I think the final like championship call is too scripted. People have gotten very focused on. You have to be like. And like birds of a feather, the Seahawks come down from the sky to grab 60. Well, it's like sometimes just.

[A]

They won. I get that. And if it's a close game that needed like, that has a big finish, a moment. Of course you're not going to script that, but you had most of the fourth quarter to like have in your head. This is probably what. So then one of the commercial breaks, you got to be like, all right.

[C]

What am I doing here?

[A]

Let me just type out something real quick and just fall. Okay. I get an idea of what I want to say. I don't mean read it off the page, but now I get it in my head. All right, Now I know what I want to do once this thing hits zero.

[B]

That's all.

[C]

Yeah. Especially because you're not getting very. A lot of fun, exciting.

[A]

It wasn't terrible. I just was curious.

[B]

I thought.

[A]

I was wondering if Dom would have caught that pause at the. And you did. So that's why I asked.

[C]

All right, here's Drake May. Do you think your shoulder may have limited you in this game?

[B]

I think it'd be hard to say.

[C]

That I was feeling good enough to be out there.

[B]

I wouldn't.

[C]

If I'm out there, I wouldn't put the team in, you know, harm's way to not be, you know, myself and just didn't make plays tonight.

[B]

That's the way to answer.

[A]

Yep. Yeah.

[C]

What else are you gonna say? Right?

[A]

Well, I could say offensive line sucked.

[B]

It's hanging off my shoulder. I shouldn't even have been out there. They should give me the Lombardi Trophy just cause I made the effort.

[C]

Well, let's ask Mike Werbaugh what went wrong.

[B]

Coach Vabel, we couldn't gain any rhythm Field position.

[C]

We got to get into drives better offensively, defensively, we've been really good against the run lately and we weren't, you.

[A]

Know, again, we were just playing catch.

[C]

Up and we did a great job in the red zone. I think the turnovers, you know, ultimately costed us and I appreciate the way that the guys offensively battled and completely, but just, just not enough consistent execution.

[A]

It really is surprising that they struggled against the run when you would think that the game plan should have been, well, if they're going to beat us, it's because Sam Darnold is going to throw a 300 yard game and we're going to bet that if he's got to throw that much, he's going to turn it over. You know what I mean? Like, we're taking the runaway. Like, there's no way Kenneth Walker's beating us. No chance we're letting him beat us. And yet they ran all over them.

[B]

But it was almost like they did diagnose the run. I think he did a really good job of like, even Torico mentioned it. Not to Rico Collinsworth, how patient he was where sometimes he just waited it out, waited out the blocks and didn't panic and just, you know, go for the first hole that he saw. Like, didn't you see, like he used the whole field and just got to the sidelines. Burst of speed. Like. I think the Patriots did a good job diagnosing it originally, but give him credit for reading it and reading it and finding. Finding lanes that I don't think were originally there. He did a great job. Like, to me, he had to be the MVP.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

If I'm giving a kicker an MVP.

[A]

That would have been something.

[B]

He's kicking a 70 yard field goal against the wind. Oh, by the way, I sent this out on the text. Can you imagine that the New York super bowl was yesterday.

[C]

Oh, my Lord.

[B]

You could make the case.

[A]

Wind whip cancel.

[B]

You couldn't play it.

[C]

You can't make people say fan standpoint.

[A]

It was my. If it was a. Feels like minus six at one point yesterday evening, you.

[C]

You could not.

[A]

And the wind was whipping.

[C]

And not only that, you couldn't have a Super bowl halftime performance either. The whole thing would have been in question.

[B]

I don't think I would have been able to play the game.

[C]

Also, also, I'd like to say this real quick. If, if mother nature is watching right now, I just like to say that.

[A]

Of course she's watching.

[B]

It's happened.

[C]

Yeah, you got this. You win. You got it. You got it. I don't want any problems with you anymore. You won, I lost.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

You're stronger than me. You are Mother Nature. We are peons. You've proved your point. I can't take any more guys. I'm telling you.

[A]

Guess what you're going to have to do.

[C]

Take more of it.

[B]

More?

[C]

I'm telling you guys right now, it's one of those for everyone out there, anyone out there who moved to the burbs, and you left your friends in the city, and you, like, have a constant fight with your friends from the city who kind of like, look down on you for moving to the burbs. And you're always trying to convince them, just move to the city. And they're like, no, I don't want to be old. And you're like, trust me. Trust me. This is the time to call your friends who still live in the city and rub it in their face. Because it is pure, unadulterated ass living in the city right now. It is awful. As bad as it is, what temperature.

[A]

Right now different would you take? If you take a number that is reasonable for this time of year, 35, 6, and 1. Melt the snow around my car. You're gonna get 35.

[B]

That was your car, by the way.

[A]

Later in the week.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

It's an. It's in a block of ice.

[B]

I've only gotten in to start it.

[C]

I've started.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I started.

[C]

I pulled back and forth in the space to see if there was any movement away.

[A]

The exhaust a little bit. Okay, good.

[C]

When are we getting 35?

[A]

Oh, no, we're going to get 35.

[B]

Later this week for, I think, a high of 42. Wednesday.

[A]

Seriously?

[C]

Are they saying that?

[A]

38.

[C]

38.

[A]

38. But we. By next week, it's gonna be balmy.

[C]

I'm gonna hit 42.

[A]

41.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

But rain.

[C]

Is it rain or snow? When I saw this. It's snow.

[A]

Looks like rain to me.

[C]

I would love rain. I would love rain.

[A]

Melt things down in the morning.

[C]

Also, I know it's not.

[A]

Wintry mix. I'm sorry, what? Don't get excited.

[C]

Wintry mix. I know it's not Thursday, and I know it's not Tuesday, and so maybe I'll just give you a preview and save it for tomorrow. I mean, I'll do that. Remind me, please, Anthony, do this tomorrow.

[A]

Do what?

[C]

Just. Just because there's snow on the ground, that doesn't mean you don't pick up your dog's poop. Snow Snow is not a poop catcher.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Snow is not.

[B]

Snow is not. We've all given up. That's complete chaos.

[C]

It's.

[B]

No.

[C]

It's just a different layer of ground. You can't just.

[A]

You can't.

[C]

My block is covered in feces. Jail. I want to say it again. Send them right to jail.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

If you don't at least make the effort. No, listen. A couple of days, but if you. If you don't. If you literally don't make the effort, like, it happens to the best of us.

[B]

You don't.

[C]

You forgot your bag. So now you're looking around for someone else to come. It's freezing out. You got to give it a minute. See if anyone comes. If no one comes, then you got to start looking around on the ground and going, is there anything else I can use to pick this up? You have to do everything possible to at least try to make the effort. That is what it is to be a part of this city and be a good person.

[B]

I'm a part of society.

[C]

I mean, a huge. A human.

[A]

Wait till you move into a cul de sac and people have dog walkers and the dog.

[C]

They just let the.

[A]

Leave it.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

We put bags on the light. Post on a light. We. You want to bring bags, we'll give you back now. You have no excuse.

[C]

And they still do it.

[B]

Jail.

[A]

Yeah, jail.

[C]

That's my feeling.

[B]

Jail.

[C]

That'll do it for your NFL binge, folks. We'll get into some more audio and things during ENN special start time, one hour from now. 5:50. We'll do ENN.

[A]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[C]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[A]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want.

[C]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

Well, this would not be on my.

[A]

List, although it's good.

[B]

Gets played at, like, every club. Not a huge fan.

[A]

You don't, like, took me all night long is not your thing.

[B]

No. She was a fast machine because it kept commercialized. You go to clubs back in the early 90s and they would play this song. The DJ would play it all the girls would go crazy. And it's like.

[A]

It's kind of like knocking me out with those American thighs.

[B]

Everybody's. Everybody's.

[A]

That's a bar.

[B]

I'm good.

[A]

Jake. That's a bar.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

Right?

[C]

That is stripper music.

[A]

If ever there was knocking me out with those American thighs, that's. That's. That's saying something. It definitely is. Listen for it's like the Brits coming over going, oh, and for a guy. For a guy who loves thighs and speaking to me.

[C]

Double meaning.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I think it's just the one meaning.

[C]

Yeah, just the one. Speaking of which, by the way, we're talking a lot about athletes. It's. It's the bottom of the hour, for God's sake. I mean, they're saying Cardi B. And Steph broke up during the game last night. If so, we've never. This is new. Uncharted territories of celebrity breakup we've never seen. She left the game, they're saying. Broke up mid game.

[B]

What could be going on during the game that you would break up?

[C]

Another woman showed up in a better seat. He had another woman there that he invited. Apparently, though, there's a video that would do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, no, listen. You said. What is the one thing.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

That's probably a bridge too far.

[C]

No, that would be the thing that, like, if you came out and they go, what? Where's Cardi? They go, she left. And you go, why? She found out you invited the other chick.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, what are you gonna do?

[A]

What are you gonna do now?

[C]

There's a video moving around of a couple of days ago and someone said, cardi, do you have any words on the red carpeted event? Cardi, do you have any words of encouragement for Steph in the game? And she just went, good luck, and kept walking. So it appears there's been trouble in paradise.

[A]

She gone.

[C]

But like, this guy. There's. They're gonna study this guy. I would never see anything like this. There are people saying he has more baby moms this year than receptions in.

[A]

The super bowl made three.

[C]

He's. I think he has four baby moms this year.

[A]

In a year?

[B]

Yeah, just about.

[A]

He's crown.

[B]

And all at the same time. Around the same time.

[C]

Cromartie. Cromarties with his wife, though. I don't think. Cromartie.

[A]

I think. Yeah, all 10.

[B]

I think.

[C]

I think Cromartie was just unstoppable.

[A]

For real? Yeah, she's. She's the real mvp. My word.

[C]

This. That's. I mean. But yeah, we never. This is.

[B]

It's nothing. It's the withdrawal.

[A]

It was almost like he got her pregnant when she was already pregnant then.

[C]

Damn. Basically. And did you guys see. While we're on this. Thank you, Jacob.

[B]

I thought it was a gem.

[C]

I was. It was under the radar. That is something about depositing and returns.

[B]

I said. I said the deposits. One thing it's the withdrawal that's really.

[C]

That. No, that's a big deal. Every time. The only one that. Actually, I never heard it referred to that.

[B]

Listen, I. Oh, no, we heard it.

[A]

Don worked in a bank, so it's. He's got that kind of.

[C]

Everything all makes sense. Well, it's. It's the pharmacy also.

[A]

I would like their own while we're at it.

[C]

Yeah, maybe they should have stopped by Don's pharmacy. Oh, no, that's too soon. Klay Thompson. I just want to say God bless now.

[B]

What?

[C]

No, he's with Meg Thee Stallion. There are pictures of his birthday party. She got Bone Thugs in Harmony to perform in his birthday. Every video you see for like, for every Cardi Stephon Diggs that you see of just a disaster. Clay and Meg just seem. I mean he's the nerdiest least sort of like for. For a stud player, he's a pretty good looking guy.

[A]

He's not hip hop.

[C]

He's not cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's not the dude. And he landed Meg the Stallion and she's head over heels. Every video she's cooking for him, she's doing. And like, this is no loser. Meg the Stallion is very successful in her own right.

[A]

But he's, he's so. He's chill. And that's the thing.

[C]

Like, he's just a good guy. Winning is what it seems like. It just feels like.

[A]

What's wrong with that?

[C]

No, you love to see it because I don't love how things are ending for him from a basketball standpoint. I don't know if it'll end in a great place.

[B]

Basketball seem like.

[C]

But guess what? Got news for you. I don't think he cares anymore.

[A]

No.

[C]

Think he's kind of good.

[A]

Yeah, he's got rings.

[C]

He's got rings.

[A]

He's good.

[C]

And now, by the way, his brand in post career will totally change because of this. He has a chance to like really elevate himself because people like, he pulled me the Stallion.

[A]

And he's very like, he's very similar to Adam Sandler where he's like, I don't need to impress you. Like, whatever. Like, I do that.

[C]

His vibe.

[A]

He's very just. I don't do anything to try to like live up to whatever standard you care about, like whatever you need for. That's fine. That's you. I. He's very.

[C]

Is he the best chill about? Is he the best criticism pure? When I say this, I don't mean that no one else has ever been able to shoot a Basketball as well. But in terms of your job is literally shoot the basketball. Has there ever been anyone better than Clay?

[A]

Steph Curry.

[C]

But Steph, I just. It includes a little bit more. I know what you're saying.

[A]

He's the best shooter in the history of the game. Steph Curry.

[C]

Well, best, but you see what I'm saying, that Steph has other jobs. Steph the brawl runs through Steph constantly. Yeah, Clay. It's like if you get Clay the.

[B]

Ball, I would catch and shoot.

[A]

I would say for his role. Yeah, he's. For a guy that understood my role is to be the knockdown shooter. He's one of the best.

[C]

Yeah, he's way up there, right?

[A]

He's one of the best.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I can't even think of the name of who would. Because if the first name you had to go to was Steph, that already speaks to how good, you know, Ray Allen.

[A]

Ray Allen is. And Ray Allen on the Heat was very similar to Clay. Like, Ray Allen didn't have to do really carry an offense. He just had to knock down shots.

[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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