Hour 2: Talk About It

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast

Hour 2: Talk About It

Date: December 2, 2025 | Host: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg | Location: NHL Shop at Manhattan West Plaza, powered by Game Seven Brands

Episode Overview

This episode weaves through New York sports talk, quarterback woes, Giants team culture, the perils of Christmas lights, pop culture, and some viewer call-ins. The trio mixes comedic banter with insightful analysis and signature New York flavor, transitioning from NFL debates to personal holiday frustrations, always with candid, rapid-fire exchanges.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Weekend NFL Recap: Drama & QB Dilemmas

Timestamps: 01:38–06:15

• Wild Game Recap:
  Peter marvels at the chaos and drama of Sunday Night Football, particularly Marcus Mariota’s up-and-down performance.

  • “He makes an incredible play... and then reminds you why backups are backups.” — Peter (02:05)
  • Alan agrees that Mariota fits the “less is more” backup QB archetype.
    • “The more you see, the more you realize why they’re not QB1s.” — Alan (05:25)
  • They discuss the trend of backup QBs shining briefly but faltering over longer stints.

• Jets QB Frustrations:
  The group debates whether Mariota-type QBs represent progress for the Jets, given their chronic struggles:

  • “Isn’t that what they need? Someone a level above Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields.” — Peter (04:48)
  • Alan notes Fields' likely retention for cap reasons, leaving the Jets still searching.

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2. Overtime Rules & Philosophy

Timestamps: 03:23–04:48

• OT Criticisms:
  • Discontent at the NFL’s current overtime format:
    • “They didn’t do it for health reasons. It’s about not letting 1 o’clock games bleed into the 4:25 window.” — Don (04:11)
  • Agreement that if you can’t stop a TD in OT, “you don’t deserve to win.”

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3. Giants Culture & Abdul Carter Incident

Timestamps: 06:15–11:13

• Media Sound Bite vs. Full Context:
  Alan defends Abdul Carter after social media blows up a combative sound bite, emphasizing Carter’s actual remorse and context:

  • “While we hear this little sound bite... there was more in the conversation.” — Alan (07:55)
  • Peter and Don recall past Giants player issues, noting,
    “If his biggest personal flaw is tardiness, this is something we can work with.” — Peter (09:23)

• Team Culture & Leadership:
  Discussion about whether Carter’s tardiness reflects individual maturity or broader leadership problems within the Giants:

  • “You’re either coaching it or allowing it to happen. He was allowing it to happen.” — Alan (10:01)

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4. On-Air Banter: Acting as Yourself, Sports Movie Talk

Timestamps: 12:32–14:52

• Peter argues that playing yourself onscreen (“This is Hot 97”) is challenging, sparking talk about Lawrence Taylor’s performance in “Any Given Sunday” and celebrities in film.
  • “It’s hard to be natural when you’re being told to be natural.” — Alan (13:32)

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5. Call-In Corner: Giants & Jets Fans Chime In

Timestamps: 15:03–17:23; 18:01–20:24

• Giants Fan Lament:

  • Paul from NJ: Disappointed by the Giants’ game, frustrated over Abdul Carter, joking about drastic measures to ensure he gets to meetings on time (15:47).

• Jets Fan Perspective:

  • John from Mahwah: Gripes about Giants fan complaints, praises Peter's insight on the Jets’ perpetual QB misery, and suggests Mariota as a bridge QB.
  • Spirited debate ensues: “We’re lowering our standards so much that we’re willing to take a quarterback that isn’t terrible.” — Alan (19:02)

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6. Broadcasting Oddities: Name Pronunciations, On-Air Mishaps

Timestamps: 20:24–23:44

• Mariota’s Name:
  Noticing broadcasters’ hyper-correct pronunciation:

  • Peter: “Their commitment to saying ‘Mariota’... was incredible.” (20:54)

• Rodney Harrison Incident:

  • The group dissects Rodney Harrison’s odd on-air moment — was it fatigue or technical issues?
    • “If they leave a key, it’s basically holding the button down... you hear all the chatter in the control room.” — Alan (22:23)
    • Peter: “I would toss them under the bus!”— (23:40), debating honesty vs. being a good teammate.

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7. Holiday Life: Christmas Lights Headaches

Timestamps: 27:50–33:52

• The Painful Ritual:
  • Alan details the agony of setting up Christmas lights each year, battling with “polarized plugs” and non-uniform extension cords:
    • “It’s the dumbest thing, but it makes me crazy.” — Alan (30:27)
  • Don and Peter relate, sharing their annual frustration:
    • “I wish I’d just pay somebody to do it. It would look nicer, save the aggravation.” — Don (31:25)
  • The trio riffs on keeping lights up year-round (“the smart move?”), mirroring modern trends.

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8. NFL Flex Scheduling Confusion

Timestamps: 34:40–38:07

• December Game Times:
  • Adam Schefter’s tweet about “our first flex” in week 16 leads to confusion over why a game is at 5 p.m. Saturday.
  • Light, rapid-fire banter about “dead sexy” Packers-Bears, Eagles-Commanders late slots, and forgettable Sunday night matchups:
    • “Can I just flex out of the whole season?” — Alan (35:51)

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9. Rodgers Drama & Accountability

Timestamps: 38:29–39:16

• Rodgers’ comments after a tough outing get analyzed for leadership and judgment:
  • “Quarterbacks don’t generally mention receivers by name... that’s dumb.” — Peter (39:01)
  • “After I heard it, I almost wanted to take a bath.” — Don (39:13), transitioning into a tongue-in-cheek plug for Bath Fitter.

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10. More Banter: Soft-Rock Ozzy, Picks & Thanksgiving Losses

Timestamps: 43:00–46:21

• Music Chat:
  Peter admits preference for “softer” Ozzy Osbourne songs; the group discusses ‘80s rock, mixing sports, and musical nostalgia.

• NFL Picks Woes:
  Alan and Peter bemoan their poor Thanksgiving picks, especially losing faith in Detroit and the Lions’ perennial mediocrity.

  • “I don’t trust Detroit now at all.” — Alan (45:22)
  • Bears’ recent lucky streak is dissected, comparing them to last year’s Commanders.

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11. Jason Garrett Conversion

Timestamps: 47:03–48:24

• Don admits Jason Garrett won him over as a color commentator during a Thanksgiving game broadcast after being previously unimpressed:
  • “I honestly had no use for the man as a coach or analyst on NBC... but I’m a fan.” — Don (47:43)

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12. Kofi Appreciation

Timestamps: 49:27–51:48

• Recognizing Superfan & Contributor Kofi:
  • Live on air, the guys highlight Kofi’s role as an unofficial stat-checker and historian for the show:
    • “Within seconds, there’s a tweet correcting us.” — Alan (50:12)
    • Kofi shares his journey to becoming a regular listener and fact-checker, emphasizing his curiosity for sports history.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On backup quarterbacks:

• “The more you see, the more you realize why they’re not QB1s.” — Alan (05:25)

On angry sports reaction:

• “If his biggest personal flaw is tardiness, this is something we can work with.” — Peter (09:23)

On Christmas lights:

• “It's the dumbest thing, but it makes me crazy.” — Alan (30:27)

On changing NFL schedules:

• “Can I just flex out of the whole season?” — Alan (35:51)

On alternative broadcasting careers:

• “It's hard to be natural when you're being told to be natural.” — Alan (13:32)

On show contributors:

• “Within seconds, there’s a tweet correcting us.” — Alan (50:12)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:38–06:15 – NFL recap, Mariota, backup QBs & Jets
• 06:15–11:13 – Abdul Carter, Giants culture, soundbites
• 12:32–14:52 – Playing yourself onscreen, sports movies
• 15:03–17:23 – Giants fan call-in
• 18:01–20:24 – Jets fan call-in, QB debate
• 20:24–23:44 – Mariota pronunciation, Rodney Harrison mishap
• 27:50–33:52 – Christmas lights struggles
• 34:40–38:07 – NFL flex scheduling confusion
• 38:29–39:16 – Rodgers postgame leadership
• 43:00–46:21 – Music, NFL picks, Thanksgiving losses
• 47:03–48:24 – Don's “Jason Garrett moment”
• 49:27–51:48 – Kofi's appreciation segment

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Tone & Style

Conversational, energetic, comedic, and slightly irreverent, with deep New York accents and a blend of sports insight and pop culture asides. The banter flows naturally but is always underpinned by expertise and experience from all three hosts.

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Transcript

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Has it aged well?

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I don't know. I can't. I'm still. You know what? I'm still on the fence.

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You know what this reminds me of? Like Stern when he did the deep voice thing in the movie and the woman sat on the speaker. I think, I think you should test this.

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Sounds like somebody didn't lock the door recently. His mind's wandering.

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Well, you know what?

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Let's, let's, we should test this. Next time we play it, just crank it up.

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Why not? Let's be great. Why be good when we could be great?

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Am I wrong? Yes, it's. It's deep.

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No, it's deep. But I, I.

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That.

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That didn't occur.

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It did. No, I didn't cross my mind.

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It occurred to me.

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But listen, he's wearing his quarters.

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Quarters of day today. I can do anything on a day.

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Like he's an adult man. He makes decisions.

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Speaking of NBC, did you guys. Did you guys stay in for my whole comedy game on Sunday night?

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Most of it.

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Not the end.

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No.

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Don.

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You're out to watch that?

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Oh, man, what a. What a fun.

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Saw it.

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I mean, you could have zero interest. What a ridiculous game that was.

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Of course it was. And the Mariota thing, which I always go through with him because it's like I want to like them and then I start to like them and then I'm like, nope.

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Well, well, he had unreal. The la. The. The. On a fourth down where the game would have ended. He's getting dragged to the ground and. And makes an incredible play that forces the pass Interference to continue the game. He gets down the field and then reminds you why backups are backups when on that last play, you gotta see the guy, gotta do it.

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But that bother you, though? It's like, like I know that you're.

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I wanted to win.

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Yeah, I wanted. It's a fun game, right?

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It's a fun game and you want to win. And the way I look at their whole. They're not getting some great draft pick. You want to, like, have Jaden come back and they've won a game and maybe they put a little something together to feel good about at the end of the year, they're not blowing this thing up. They got to try to figure out what they're doing. So got to know who's good. But at the same time, I respect going for it in that spot. Like it's. They've been playing for an hour, they've been playing for nine hours, the season's lost, you go for it. It's the right thing to do.

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Getting in the field goal range is so easy now. Right. So once it's the next possession, they're kicking the field goal, the game's over. Right. You want to win the game.

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There's giving up the points.

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Because I thought when you go back to the Giant.

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Oh, by the way, I thought the game was over. I need to tell you when, when Denver rolls in an overtime and scores, I'm like, oh, why isn't the guy celebrating that hard? He didn't even throw the ball into the crowd.

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Oh, you forgot the rule.

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And I'm like, oh, they let us.

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Oh, yeah.

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And then I went, oh, great. So we're not, we're not scoring a touchdown here. And then, of course, I still don't love the rule. It's hard to get you. What do you want? Just a period, I think play to 10 minutes.

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It's only 10 minutes. Right.

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And yeah, you might as well just play it at this point. And I always, why even bother with the sudden death? It's ten minutes and I.

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And I.

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You'd really bleed. To think about it, if you, though, were a possession type team, you'd really just bleed. That's still a lot, as much as you can. It's not easy to do. But.

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But with two timeouts, I mean, really, how long. How often do you see a drive? More than, than six minutes, maybe seven minutes. And with the two timeouts, you're going to get the ball. You may not get it with a ton of time.

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And if you can't, if you cannot stop them for 10 minutes. They kick a field goal, that's on you.

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Didn't deserve to win the game anyway.

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Right.

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But you know, I understood the 15 and listen, I always said that the reason that they went to the 10 minutes was because. Not because of, they said it was because of health reasons. Give me a break. Five minutes. They did it because they don't want these one o' clock games spill into the 425 window.

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That's right.

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But the 10 minute, most of these games go deep into the 10 minutes anyway, for what you said, they, they, they want that long drive, that first possession and then the other team comes down. Now they can go for it on fourth down if they're down by a touchdown or three. I just felt like, you know what, if you give up a touchdown in overtime, you don't deserve to win field goals with guys kicking 60 yard field goals. You do deserve to have the ball back. But this all stems back to that, the Bills Chiefs playoffs back in the.

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Day where it felt like you're robbed of. What I came away thinking that from that game locally though was if I were the jets and I had an opportunity, if they know they can't get their quarterback. Mariota is exactly the kind of thing you could upgrade with. But if you're the commanders, they're not letting him go. They've shown that they need to play him too much so you can't let him go. A backup quarterback is so important. But you guys, for the jets, if they're not getting a guy, isn't that what they need? Someone who's a level above Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields, who could at least let them play a season.

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The problem where you can have a.

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Presentable chance at winning less is more.

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With players like this, the more you see them. Yes. The more you remember and the more you realize that, okay, it's always the less is more thing. I mean, the great backup Tyrod was the same way. He was the same way. I mean Nick Foles, let's be honest, like he had right the playoff run. You go, run. But you weren't ever going like, oh, he's got to be our number one. Go. No. Everybody knows, like, no, that was a run and he's not that guy. But that's just so I, I did, but I played that game though. I played that game with him like I did with Winston. And I'm going like, you know, it's still better than anything we've got. But the more you see, the more you see the issues, which is why they're better as backups. Because in short stints, they're great. But once you give them the long Runway, that's when you start to realize this is why they're not QB1s.

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But the cap ramifications with Fields probably keeps them on the roster, at least next year.

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Yeah.

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So the question is, is he your backup is your third string, and you're probably going to end up being Don Hahn and Rosenberg. Coming to you live from the NHL shop at Manhattan West Plaza. And it's all powered by game seven brands. We started the day talking about the Giants and the issue of blowing it up. And we want to take your calls that at 1-800-919-3776. But Abdul Carter, I think, and Alan, you brought this to my attention, was, I think, painted in a really poor light.

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Yeah.

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By social media. Because there was a lot more contrition after the game. We think a lot of people believe.

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I think, it back in the studio, they have the clip that has been circulating. It's short of Carter sounding really combative with the reporters and the question and answer about what happened, that you were benched for the start of the game. If you guys have it, let's play it. Second time in three weeks, happens what happened. I ain't gonna get into detail once that happens. Why, like, for asking the same question I just answered. See, that sounds like somebody that is combative, that doesn't want to deal with it. I watched the longer version of the interview. He actually did give thoughtful answers. He actually did have contrition. There were times where I got to be better. You know, like, he. He did answer a lot of those questions. Now, he didn't tell you the detail. He didn't say what happened. And he wouldn't go into that stuff. Neither would Kafka, neither would Burns. Nobody else would say exactly what it was. But Carter did show remorse. And he said the part that bothered when he was sitting there watching the team and them giving up points is he felt I let my team down because I couldn't be out on the field to help them. That's on me. He said stuff like that. So while we hear this little sound bite and we all want to react to this bad kid, we have to understand that there was more in the conversation. And I'm sure he got to a point where he's like, how. How many more times you want me to say this? Like, all right, I've said everything I can say here. So I do want to make sure. Everybody understands that that little clip that's running around social media is not all that was said in his media address.

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I'm glad you said that because it's very easy for us to become that guy. And that's what yo yos on radio do. And they start screaming when really, I'm not ready. It's a terrible. It stinks that this has happened twice. I need to remind you guys of some of the character problems the Giants have had over the last decade. All right? They have had guns abusers. There have been real character problems.

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You could go back to Jeremy Shockey before you even mentioned Plaxco Burris. Oh, and.

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But I. And even just in the last five years, they had one after another that you go, what are you. What are you exactly doing here? DeAndre Baker, Josh. What's his face, the kicker.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Josh Brown. One after another. Let's not. If Abdul Carter, maybe I relate to him too much. If his biggest personal flaw is tardiness, this is something we can work with. Oh, yeah, let's make. Let's just.

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Let's not throw.

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Let's not throw out the baby with the bat. However, it shows a problem.

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Glad you're saying this.

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It shows a culture problem.

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I have heard people talk about like, this is who Joe Shane brings in. This guy's garbage. You got to get him out of here. And I'm thinking, wait a second, he's a talented player that you just got to get his head right. He's got to mature. Like, that's what you do. That's what you do as an organization. You say, okay, this guy's talented, but he's got some flaws. But these are workable flaws. And we just got to get him to understand, have him mature, grow up. We got to get some leaders around them because clearly that's not happening. And maybe it is. And the leaders are going, you know what? This kid ain't listening.

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But that's a problem. I still think bad leadership.

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This is a residue of Brian Dable allowing is that we always say, you're either coaching it or allowing it to happen. And to me, what we understand is he was allowing it to happen. So now when they make the coaching change, Mike Kafka goes, we're not allowing it to happen anymore. And he's just like, whoa, this is what I've been doing all year.

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I've been getting away with it. I get that, and I'm glad you brought it up. But to give you the other side, where I think it reflects poorly on Shane is. Remember when he first got drafted, he wanted number 56.

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Yeah.

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Oh, you can't have. How about 11?

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11. Yeah.

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You know what? Play better.

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Yeah.

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All right. He had a lot of Lawrence Taylor and Phil Sims in the history of the sort because hasn't exactly really impressed people in his rookie year. Okay. And that's what really baffles me about Dable is like, I gotta play the kid. Well, he's not playing well. Like, I understand Bill Barcelos had a different set of rules for Lawrence Taylor because he might have five sacks in the game, two strip sacks and a touchdown. You know what? I got to get that guy to play.

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I mean, did we notice Carter on.

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The field when he did play?

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Great.

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Fair point.

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We did. When he got into the game last night, you know what he needs? Right? I just realized. You know what? He needs better help. He needs Lawrence Taylor in the steam room.

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Sorry that. You know what?

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Any given Sunday. Now that scene, by the way, which he ad libbed is one of the great scenes in sports movies history.

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It is.

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And that speech is literally what he needs to say to Abdul Carter.

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Better help.

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Peter and I have had intellectual conversations about acting. Do you get credit for acting well, playing yourself?

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This is a great. Well, I say no hesitation. Yes.

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Because not as easy as you think.

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Because. Well, just because so many actors play themselves anyway, you know, they're a version of themselves. It seems all the time in every movie. I had a season, if you remember, Don, of a reality show about Hot 97 called this is Hot 97. We did eight episodes.

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Brilliant name.

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How'd they come up with it? The brilliant minds of VH1. In fact, you can watch the entire season on Amazon Prime. And it was an acted show, was not a reality show at all. You're acting every single scene. There's not one moment of it was reality. And I will say I find playing yourself to be challenging. Okay. I didn't have an acting coach. They don't have anyone training.

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They don't technically have writers telling you to be natural. And it's hard to be natural when you're being told to be natural.

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What I was doing.

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Here's what's going to happen. Generally, we want you to get here and there. And we had a lot of fun. And there's some great scenes that came out really funny, but it's hard. It's not. It's not a nothing for sure. Yeah.

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Just because he is really brilliant in that scene.

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Yeah.

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I think that, that that movie is very underrated to me anyway.

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Agree.

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Because it gets. Because this. Listen, there's a lot. If you're. If you're a football nerd, you. You have to swallow a lot of mistakes in the movie. Okay. They took some liberties and there's a lot of things.

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We know how you feel about continuity.

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Right.

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Things.

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But it's. There's some great performances. I thought Pacino did great. I thought. Lt was great. Jamie Fox. There's a lot of great performances and it's a, you know, it's a movie about football. You can't go wrong with that. But I was just kind of curious because basically Lawrence Taylor's playing himself.

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My. But does he. Is. Is he Lawrence Taylor?

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He's not Lawrence Taylor, but he's playing. I. I think he's a line. I think he's a linebacker, you know, but. But he's playing veteran.

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Veteran superstar, you know, who's, you know, who's done this a lot, but actually with themselves. Their own name. Because they have to. It's the only way. Tyson. Yeah, Tyson's been Tyson.

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A good point.

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The movie. You ever seen the movie Black and White?

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No.

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From like 2000.

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No.

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This is when he was in his craziest era. And in the movie, he plays himself in that craziest era. He's fantastic.

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Right.

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But in Hangover he's a little bit of a goofier version, I think true of himself.

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Yeah.

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All right, let's get well for him.

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1-800-919-3776 Paul in New Jersey, you get us started off. Rosenberg.

[C]

What's up?

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Hey guys, how are you?

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Big fan, Big fan.

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Cool.

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So I'm, I'm talking about the Giants. I mean I've been, I've been following them since they first moved to jersey. I'm 57 and seeing that game yesterday was so, so disappointing. I thought they were going to get.

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You know, get close when the kicker, which I thought, I thought it was at first I thought it was a.

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Fake, a fake field goal and they were going to score a touchdown out of it. But then I realized it's not a fake field goal. So I, I was just.

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I'd rather have them lose by three.

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Points or by a touchdown in the fourth quarter than to see that debacle yesterday. And Abdul Carter, honestly, I would probably.

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Pick up his bed and put it.

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Next to one of those meeting doors and have him wake up when it's.

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Time for the meeting.

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Honestly. Smart.

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That might get him there on time. But it is amazing that moment right before the kick, that kick would have made it a seven point game. Like you still feel like you're right there in the game. Right. You don't feel like it's overwhelming, but that happens. The next thing you did a blink, it's like the game feels like it's over.

[B]

They had a drop pick that could.

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Have been a pick 6, 24 to 7.

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There's a few things. But, but again, I feel like we give the Giants credit for being in games and you take a look around the league and it seems like everybody's in the game.

[A]

Everybody's in game.

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The jets haven't been blown out all that often. Right. I mean they hung around with Baltimore. Right. You know, they've won three of their last five games. But I wouldn't put. The jets is a good football team, but they, they haven't had that many.

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Leads in the fourth quarter.

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They have.

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It's not like these, you know, fugazi like late touchdown that cuts it to seven, you know, or one score game and stuff like that.

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Now, you know, now the rubber hits the road. You're playing on national television.

[A]

Yeah. And you embarrass yourself and you're playing against a team that came into this game with a purpose. And there's like the Patriots. We're really killing the Giants. The Giants got ambushed last Night like you saw they from, from the opening kickoff, they were ambushed.

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Right.

[A]

They got jumped. They got punked. The Patriots played that game like it meant something extra to them and they wanted to show the league. We're 11 and three, the best team in the league. We're going into our buy with that in our back pocket. Feeling good about their chances of having the number one seed in the afc. Think about that for a minute and.

[B]

You would think that the Giants would have played with a bit of a chip on their shoulder as well. Right. They get their starting quarterback. They're playing on Monday Night Football. They almost beat the Packers. They almost beat the Lions. Hey, let's, let's show something here. And before you sit down at 17 of it.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know. Yeah. So they made it close, but still they spotted right now the best team in football. 17 point lead in their own building. And then we're supposed to. Oh, well, it could have been a one possession game here and it could have been one possession game there. Well, you know what? Maybe if you, if you, if you showed up to start the game.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You might have been in a position to win it. John in Mawa, you're on ESPN New York. What's up, John?

[C]

Hey, guys.

[B]

As a Jet fan, lifelong Jet fan, listening to Giant fans complain, it's making me throw up.

[C]

Having said that, I've never been the biggest Peter fan, but I just became.

[B]

The biggest Peter fan. Wow. He is. When he. No, seriously. When you mentioned.

[C]

And I watched Marcus Ben riot in.

[A]

College, I wanted the jets to draft.

[C]

Him however many years ago that was.

[B]

If he were to be the bridge.

[C]

Quarterback to whoever we draft this year, I would be. Peter, I love you for saying that.

[A]

I would, I would die. I got to be honest. John is a fellow. But as a fellow. That game was great.

[C]

Game was great. The other day.

[A]

I got to tell you, as a fellow Jet fan, I think you're crazy because I watched that.

[B]

You may think I'm crazy.

[A]

Oh, I love Mario College.

[B]

Alan, I've been a. I, I've been.

[C]

I've been a Jet fan since you were.

[A]

Well, since 1968. I would be. I am the craziest Jet.

[C]

I would love Mario just as the.

[A]

Bridge, not as my story. I, I get it, but maybe you know what it is. This is what's happening to us. We're lowering our standards so much that we're willing to take a quarterback that isn't terrible.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But again, I thought Fields might be that. Oh, he, at least he won't be Terrible. No, he actually is terrible. Accuracy is awful.

[B]

All right, so you got.

[A]

But you're right about that. What are your options?

[B]

Yeah, because. All right, so Justin Fields, you take a. Cap it. If you let him go, he's an option. Kirk Cousins is an option. I'd like to see people put that to bed already. I'm not.

[C]

All right, you don't want to do that.

[A]

No.

[B]

Mariota looks pretty attractive. The two options I just gave you, right. You would take Mariota over those. Of those three, you would take him.

[A]

You know what? I would. I would take Joe, Floyd, Flacco at 42.

[C]

Over. Over any of them.

[A]

Over anybody.

[C]

No.

[B]

You're wild.

[A]

I know it's wild. But you know what? When he's healthy, he's good. He's still really good. And you have a decent enough line that he doesn't have to worry about running around you. Come on, what he did.

[C]

I'd rather have Mariota.

[A]

The numbers he put up in Cincinnati.

[C]

Yeah, but that's. That's what. Two of the best. Two of the five best receivers in the NFL.

[A]

You didn't see Mechi and Mitchell play this weekend. I'm told that they are the second coming. What do you mean?

[C]

This is.

[A]

This is Al Toon and Wesley Walker.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know if he's going to be able to do that with what the jets have. We'll see where Garrett Wilson is next year, of course, but it's a tough spot.

[B]

No matter.

[C]

Hey, speaking of this game, by the way, did either of you notice or watch long enough to notice that someone clearly said something to Tirico and Collinsworth at some point during the week? Someone said to them, hey, by the way, his name isn't Marcus Barriota, he's Hawaiian, and his name is pronounced Mariota. And they. Their commitment to saying Mariota, Mariota for. I've never heard anyone else say it.

[A]

Well, we've heard the commissioner call a Marioto.

[C]

That's. That is certainly famously happened. But their commitment to it was incredible. I was like, someone told them five minutes before the game started, only call him Mariota. From the second I turned it on, I was like, wow, look at you, Chris.

[B]

And you watch every second. So they didn't. Did they disclaimer it at all and.

[C]

Say, no, they never said anything.

[B]

The origin story, then I think you almost have to do it. Otherwise people are going to think, what are you doing?

[C]

Well, I wonder if when they met with him, they. Maybe because he's starting. They met with him that week and they were. He was like, hey, by the way, you know, people throw it away because I'm not always starting. My name is Marcus Mariota.

[B]

If I don't know. This happens in hockey all the time. Guys decide, you know what, Pronounce my name this way. Right. It happens.

[C]

Right. Whatever's going to be easier for you.

[B]

You know, a guy comes in the league, he doesn't want to bother anybody. All of a sudden he signs a contract, he starts making a name for himself and he's, you know what? Or sometimes it's the parents are watching the game in Sweden and they complain. Oh, you know, it's Jesper, not Jesper, you know, but when that happens and I'm going to pivot like that, I'm going to tell people why I'm doing it so they don't think I had a stroke. Right. I mean. Right.

[C]

Well, speaking of which, you see everyone going crazy about Rodney Harrison during the game, too.

[B]

Yeah, that was odd.

[A]

No, but you've had that.

[C]

It was noise in his ear.

[A]

Clearly he had a producer or somebody had a key open because that happened.

[C]

Sorry, Anthony.

[A]

He said he was fatigued.

[B]

Well, that's not. See now.

[C]

Okay, well, you know what?

[A]

Never mind.

[B]

You take it all back.

[C]

Well, hold on. There's one or two things. Either. Either I take it all back, he was dealing with something more serious than just fatigue, but he doesn't want to say it.

[A]

True.

[C]

Or he's the best teammate ever and doesn't want to throw his team under the bus. That they just left a pot open and people were just blabbing in his ear.

[A]

Yeah, that can happen. And it's happened to me. I'm sure we've all dealt with this because we have those IFBs in, and if they leave a key, it's basically holding the button down and it stays locked. You hear all the chatter in the control room or in the truck, and what you don't realize is in the truck, it's chaos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This guy's yelling and screaming about this, go to this, go to that. And so that's happening in your ear while you're also.

[C]

Somebody's talking. Alan, last week I called half of a main event of evolve while 2yo yos, God bless them, I don't know who they were.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Were in. In the. In one of the trucks somewhere having casual conversations that at one point included them talking about me.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

I could hear their entire conversation in my left ear. They were just not real. It wasn't good or bad. They were Just like, talking about random things all in my left ear while I'm calling play by play in front of me.

[A]

Brutal.

[C]

Very difficult to do.

[A]

That's when you got to just say it.

[C]

Well, they don't give these jobs a shit. Let's just be honest.

[A]

You got to throw it.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

So let's say awful announcing has that video.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you look like Rodney Harrison. Are you throwing them under the bus or you're going to say I was fatigued?

[C]

I'll be honest. They're getting tossed right under the bus.

[B]

And here's why I agree with you. Because it really looked like something was wrong with him. And there was a little tinge of irritation as well. You almost have to explain why that happened. So he said, I'm not falling on the sword.

[A]

Here's what he said. He said that he was working on a few hours of sleep because he. He watched his son play Saturday night. Only had 3 hours sleep on Sunday because he had to work all day. He said, I was suffering from exhaustion. He said, but I'm good.

[B]

I think he's being a good teammate.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's because he's been doing it long enough. We've all had, like, a lack of sleep. Three hours is not that devastating.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

To have that kind of reaction.

[C]

Not at all.

[B]

Like, slept in two days. That'd be different.

[C]

Exactly. But one night off, three hours. We've all done that. That's like, now I. Can I just assume that what he's saying is face value. He's completely fine because that's what he's saying.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I would like to say that he's completely fine. And he confirmed what I've always thought. He's exceptionally untalented at television. And it just came out in that moment.

[A]

Geez.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

There's that about there. Yeah.

[C]

I'm allowed to. And he's a patriot, so I guess what, I double hate him.

[A]

You're.

[B]

You're. You're paid to have an opinion.

[C]

And I've been watching him for 20 years. If you. If you pay attention. I am not nice to the NBC broadcast with the exception of Collinsworth, who I think is a gem, and. And Tariko, who I feel good. I really like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And they have other people. I think Maria Taylor is very good. They have people who are good, but they've had some people. Dungy grinds my gears.

[A]

You love Garrett.

[C]

Oh, Jason.

[B]

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[A]

Don, do you hang Christmas lights?

[B]

I do.

[A]

What do you, how, how, how deep do you go into this thing? Like what's the, what is we? Well, what's the extent of it? You said you do it yourself. You're not hiring someone.

[B]

I'm not hiring anybody. The extent is blow ups in the front yard.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And the lights over the. I've got. I've got bushes on either side of the stairs leading to the front of the house.

[A]

So the portico.

[B]

So it's like a. It's like those blanket lights.

[A]

You kind of throw bushes and the.

[B]

Netting and you know, hang some of that stuff there. That's. That's the extent of it.

[A]

Right. Okay. And how does that go year by year? Like you gotta. You take it out, whether it's in the attic or wherever you store it, unpack it. For me, the frustration of year after year of I have my setup, like every year it's the same. We do the same thing. Like, it's very simple, but it's. It's elegant, it looks nice. And every year I am going to the store to buy new lights because half the net is not lit up anymore. Half a line is not lit up anymore. Then there's this thing. We got to talk about this.

[C]

What, What?

[A]

Do you know what a polarized plug is? Anybody out there listening?

[B]

Polarized? I'm assuming it is a. That it gets charged by the sun.

[A]

No, no, no, that's. That's solar.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The polarized is one of the polarized. One of the plugs, whatever they're called, the one is larger than the other.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So that it fits in.

[C]

It.

[A]

It fits in a certain way in the outlet. Right. And it's only one way it can go. Go in.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

The problem is it's some Christmas lights. They don't have that. So when you're trying to connect from one set to another set and so everything's on one.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Exactly.

[A]

Gotta fit in.

[C]

Yes, I've been here.

[A]

So I had to get a new net on one of my. On one of the bushes because for whatever reason, this year when I plugged it in, didn't work. And I still mess with every bull. You know the whole thing. When you try every bulb and I'm done, I'm griswold. So I go get a net and now all I got to do is just connect them all. Nope. Because it's not polarized. So it doesn't fit in. And if you try to jam that thing in, you're gonna electric.

[C]

Oh, no, you can't do that.

[A]

So what do you do? What do you do?

[B]

There's got to be a way.

[A]

There's no way to connect it. They don't make out. They don't make extension cords that do that, that connect. It's all Polarized. So it drove me crazy, like, to a point where I was so happy because it's. It's a joyous thing to do. Set up the lights. Nobody was home. The girls were out. They were going to come home. It was going to. It was dusk. They were going to see the lights. It's a very exciting thing, Right? Did it all from the gates up top all the way down to my door. And this one. This one line couldn't connect, so half of it would not light up.

[C]

So what happened? Nothing.

[A]

I had to figure, you know, what I figured out. Doing the net that doesn't work. I used it as basically an extension cord. So there's just a not working net laying on the ground now. Connecting to.

[B]

No, I've. I've had that.

[A]

It's the dumbest thing, but it makes me crazy, so I have to. I had to get that out because we all put the lights up and we all get frustrated. Right. Rigging up the lights is something we all do that celebrate Christmas. And it seems like it's easy, but it's. And they make jokes about it in every Christmas movie, but it's real life, and it puts you in. I was in such a bad mood.

[B]

I want to do it where I just called.

[A]

It's the dumbest thing, right? It's the dumbest thing, but it is dumb. That one stupid plug, and no one makes the same one. How do I get. Like, I was sitting there for hours.

[C]

To be able to help.

[A]

I went to Home Depot, and I'm arguing with a guy like, no, that's not what I need. And I could not explain it to him. I. It ruined the day, so I had to get that out. Yeah, I.

[B]

And I love doing it because it gets me in the holiday spirit. But I wish I would just pay somebody to do it. It would look nicer. It would save the aggravation. But I do think it helps get me into the spirit.

[A]

It does.

[B]

We did. Because I had a Sunday home this week, so I didn't have to travel or anything. I had the whole day home. The weather wasn't great. We actually put the tree up on November 30th. We've never done it that early, but it was the last chance because then next, you know, all these other things going on, and it was perfect and we got the tree up, but because it was raining, I couldn't do outside. Yeah, forget about doing outside now or the next day because you can't. You can't do it when it rains, Peter. You can't do it the day after it rains because the ground's all saturated.

[A]

I did this on Black Friday, and.

[B]

I do it every year, the same stuff. And yet whatever combination worked the year before now all of a sudden does work this year. And you're right. I've got all these different kinds of extension cords and everything.

[A]

Not everything works.

[B]

I Jimmy switch it together, and because I'm. When the season's over, I just disconnect everything and put it all back. I should write down what I did. It would make it so much easier. I'm like. But I'm just. I forget about it next year, who knows? And the next year comes, and it's like, I don't remember how to do any of this stuff. And it's. It's right. This. This doesn't fit into that. And this isn't working.

[A]

Makes you crazy. Like, you're not supposed to be in a bad mood. Everything's supposed to work. And so you. It's like, everything's great. You put that one in. You're like, jesus, this freaking thing. Well, how is this now? It makes you. It makes you crazy. And then it won't fit. And then you're trying to see, like, can I just find a way, man? It's the dumbest thing. And the only thing I could think of was, let me take the lights that don't work, and I'll use that as. Basically, it's the dumbest thing. But during the day, you see it, at night, you don't. Whatever. But it put me in a bad mood. And you know what my sister does? She bought these lights that everybody's buying now off Amazon. Amazon, that you leave them up all year and you can use them, see, as regular lights.

[C]

Just.

[B]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[A]

Or like, Fourth of July, they can do a whole display. It's all these LED lights. I don't want to leave lights up on my house all year round, all year. But there are people doing this, and they're just like, now you don't have to rig them up anymore.

[B]

It's the smart move.

[A]

You think it is.

[B]

Yeah. Because it just saves time and aggravation.

[A]

But then in the summer, you're seeing lights sitting up on. But.

[C]

But if you.

[B]

If you can find something that could be orange during Halloween or Thanksgiving, that's what it is. Or find something that could be a little more festive.

[A]

In the summer, it changes colors. St. Patrick's Day green. Like, it'll do the whole thing.

[C]

The whole time Alan was talking, I've Been looking for this because all I wanted to find is in the background. Yeah. Wait for it. Wait for it. Not the. Not the Holiday Road. The actual theme from Vacation. This is the actual. Like that is. It plays during multiple parts of the things when Clark is doing like Clark.

[A]

Like at the beginning of the movie Christmas Vacation.

[C]

No, no, but this is from National Lampoon's Vacation.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Remember the beginning of the movie, for example, when he goes to the dealership and buys the car from Eugene Levy?

[A]

And the.

[C]

That whole thing is playing in the background.

[B]

The family's truckster truck.

[C]

And then they're playing the video game and it's don't kill the. Don't eat the Truckster. Russ. Thank you, Audrey.

[B]

That whole part I'm trying to understand.

[C]

Griswold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Adam Schefter just tweeted this out.

[C]

Who did.

[B]

We have our flex. We have our first flex. Who?

[A]

Oh. Oh.

[B]

But I'm trying to understand this.

[A]

All right, I'll help you through it.

[B]

The December 20th, week 16 Packers Bears game has been moved to 8:20 Eastern.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

That makes sense, right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Eagles commanders now will be played that day at five.

[C]

I'm very offended. At five.

[B]

Five? Why five? Why is it just move to one or.

[A]

It's got to be a scheduling reason for it.

[C]

Well, December 20th. So this isn't even a Christmas Day game. This is the regular December 20th Sunday.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Why would they move it to five?

[B]

Yeah. Why? I don't understand five. Unless. Unless he typed it wrong.

[C]

I've never heard of an NFL game.

[A]

No, December 20th is a Saturday. Yeah.

[C]

Still usually 4. 4:30. I don't. I don't recall a 5 ever.

[A]

Yeah, that's a Saturday.

[C]

The old set, by the way. What's up?

[B]

Oh, it's not the first flex. I'm being told about the first flex. I noticed.

[A]

You know why?

[B]

Because my. My team stinks. And it's not. Be kind of out of.

[A]

Can I just flex out of the.

[C]

Whole season, by the way? How about this?

[A]

Can we just sim.

[C]

How about this? That game.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Might not be. Be a nothing burner depending on where the Eagles are going and what the Cowboys do on Thursday night and what we see with the Cowboys. That's not a compares though. Oh, no. Packers Bears has become dead sexy for sure.

[A]

So that.

[C]

That's not a nothing game.

[A]

So your. Your games that weekend. This is now. We're talking about week 16. So two weeks from now, Rams Seahawks is your Thursday.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

Let me think. I'm thinking through this. Ram Seahawks relevant game.

[A]

Yeah, that, by the way, by the.

[C]

Way, smells like a Sunday night. Give me my Sunday night on a Thursday.

[A]

Seahawks is definitely a legit game right now. They're both 93, so that. That Eagles commander's game is 5pm on Sunday.

[C]

What else is there?

[B]

No, Saturday.

[A]

Saturday, Saturday, 5pm there's also that. Yeah, and then. So that night.

[C]

What?

[A]

So that's why they're doing five and then 8:20.

[C]

Wait, wait, there's no early Saturday?

[A]

No early Saturday. No, those are the two games. So that's the early slot.

[B]

Five.

[C]

Well, they couldn't just make that game. How about three o'?

[B]

Clock?

[C]

If we're gonna choose an odd time, why five?

[B]

Carry over into the next three hours.

[A]

You take your ride into the lake.

[C]

What time is the next kickoff?

[A]

8:20.

[B]

8:20. They don't want to gap.

[C]

It's gonna go past it, though.

[A]

I mean, three hours.

[C]

Yeah, but the way they usually do, the Saturday night game. The what channel is the Saturday game?

[A]

Fox. Oh, both are on Fox.

[C]

Okay, got it. Okay.

[A]

That's why you make it 5.

[C]

There's no football night in America or anything. It's just a regular Fox double. Listen, it's weird. Let's not play games Saturday, 5 o'. Clock. I have no memory of Don. I've been watching football for 40 years. 40. No recollection of a Saturday, 5 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

But then you have on.

[C]

I'm fine with it.

[A]

But then Sunday Night Football. Sunday Night football is Bengals at Dolphins.

[B]

All right, we got to give up. How is that not flex?

[A]

What? Like, what is that? And your Monday night game is Niners, Colts, which is not enough.

[B]

It's not nothing but it.

[C]

But it sounds like crap.

[A]

But what could you flex out of Bengals, Dolphins?

[C]

Plenty, I'm sure the Dolphins.

[B]

You know Roland Dratch, right? From msg?

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

Big Dolphin fan. He's still talking to me. They're gonna run the table. And they barely beat the Saints. Well, they are playing coming up this.

[A]

Week, but I gotta be honest, they are playing better.

[B]

Yeah, but the chances of that being an attractive game is still kind of tough, right?

[A]

Yeah. You got 4 and 8 versus 5 and 7 right now with two weeks to play.

[C]

For the record, I watched the Dolphins three weeks ago against the Commanders in Madrid or on Mars, wherever it was. They were not very good. I watched. They were not.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, no. They're not good. You know what?

[A]

Well, I'm looking at the schedule.

[B]

Playing like 7 seed in these conferences. Usually they're not very good.

[A]

There's nothing else on Sunday worth moving also. So.

[C]

By the way, Aaron Rodgers, this thing is, this thing is coming off the hinges. The way, the way you dream about.

[A]

You think, you think it's sailed.

[C]

He's getting, he's getting smacked around. He's throwing receivers under the bus. I, I've sort of seen this. Yeah, you've seen something.

[A]

He said he did take accountability.

[C]

What after he threw receivers.

[A]

He did, he did put it on him. So I got to be better, I got to make better throws. He, he did call himself out. But of course the clip that goes around.

[B]

It's different when you call yourself out among everyone else.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You always have to add.

[C]

And if it's the day after, you are like, quarterbacks don't generally mention receivers. That's kind of the by name. That's not dumb.

[A]

Especially by name.

[C]

Wait, it was by name?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

It, you know when, after I, after.

[B]

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I didn't tell you about my pivot. I gotta call bring that up and.

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I didn't ask Alan my question.

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All right? Oh, yeah. So that, that's what we call teas in the business.

[A]

Yeah.

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What song?

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What song is it?

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The shot in the die.

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That's what that was? Yes.

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I don't know.

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Lousy Osborne.

[C]

That's on you happy about it?

[A]

I don't know that's a good song.

[C]

Turn it up louder. But don't lie. It's gone.

[A]

This is like more like. What is it? Like mid mid 80s.

[B]

I was like, yeah, mix.

[A]

Yeah. Different sound.

[C]

I like. I like the softer. I'm sure I'd have, like, no use for like the hardest. Hardest Ozzy. But like the ones that I hear that are a little softer. I gotta tell you, I'm a fan.

[A]

Him and Lita Ford.

[C]

Not familiar, but I might like it.

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Yeah.

[B]

You kiss me Deadly.

[A]

You like that?

[C]

I don't know if I know it.

[B]

You know it, Jacob.

[A]

Well, that's leader Ford. I'm talking about Ozzy. With.

[B]

With. Right. What was it? The closing Deadly.

[A]

No, Close your eyes.

[B]

Close your eyes forever. I'm not a fan.

[A]

No, but. But I'm saying he likes the softer stuff, so I was giving him an option.

[C]

I love changes so much that I.

[B]

You know that that's what there's a song in. I believe it's after volume four. I think it's on technical ecstasy. I'm gonna play for you. I'm gonna have Jacob play. I think you're gonna like. I listened to it this morning.

[C]

You think I want.

[B]

I like. I think I specifically said to myself, I think Peter's gonna like this.

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Yes. Well, $50 cash.

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Yes, Alan.

[A]

That was a tough Thanksgiving.

[C]

Did I ruin it? Did I ruin Thanksgiving?

[A]

That was a tough Thanksgiving.

[C]

Like, were you able honestly, like how.

[A]

Though my stats were right. It's just I. I had the wrong Dallas or Lions. They'd never win on the same day type thing like it just. I. I picked the wrong side at le. At least Cincinnati saved me a point on the table.

[C]

They did. That was big.

[A]

0 and 3 would have murdered me. But I mean I'm. It's. We're in a fight now.

[C]

Now it's.

[A]

We're in the fight.

[C]

We're going to. We're going to battle now down the stretch. Packers had me feeling good most of the day.

[A]

That was just. I mean Dallas, first of all, I don't trust Detroit now at all. Can't I just. And I wanted to. And this is what happens. Right. They turn the thing around there. They start to win. They give you a 15 win. That. That loss to your commanders in the playoffs at home broke said a lot about that team. And now what are they this year now they're just mediocre. They're a good but mediocre team.

[C]

Now how about this on the flip side of that coin, the Chicago Bears. I remember the first time I saw Jim McMahon you. Last year, if you recall, the Hail Mary against the commies ended the Bears season.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

They never won again. It was a nightmare this year. The jaden snap fumble at the end of that game that they can't. The Bears have been running ever since. It's been a complete reverse.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And now the Bears are really the commanders of this year. All they do is win close games and at late in the year they're showing their.

[A]

So you're. Are you telling me that next.

[C]

We gave them the power.

[A]

Well, a lot of teams have that though. They have that little magic of winning the close games. And it does. It can flip. Amazing that 3 and 9 season could be 9 and 3 when there's just a few possessions that you win instead of lose.

[C]

But the Bears are a better. They're a more complete team and they seem. They got the head. They got a. You know, Dan Quinn's a nice leader of men. Ben Johnson is a football mind. It's a different.

[A]

Brilliant.

[C]

He's. He's very good.

[B]

All right. My pivot. And you can ask the question to.

[C]

I already did.

[A]

He did.

[B]

That was it.

[C]

Come on back. It's.

[A]

Come on with a. With a smirk on his face.

[B]

I think that was teasable. But that's okay. I don't know if my pivot is teasable.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. By the way. Let's find out.

[A]

You better bring it.

[B]

So Thanksgiving night.

[C]

All right.

[B]

All right. We land with the Devils in Buffalo.

[C]

All right. That was.

[B]

God love Buffalo.

[C]

Name of my seventh book, by the way.

[B]

God love Buffalo. We land with the devils, 17 degree wind chill. It's Thanksgiving night.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

We said, let's get together in the lobby. Let's see if there's something open to watch Bengals and Ravens in Buffalo.

[A]

Everything's open.

[B]

And I just, like. I got off the bus. I'm like, no, I'm just gonna stay in. So I stayed in and watched Bengals, Ravens, and Jason Garrett turned me. I'm a fan. Wow. I honestly had no use for the man. I had no use for the man as a coach or as an analyst on NBC. Why did NBC hire him? Don't understand.

[C]

You said it was the ginger, but he filled in.

[B]

He feel. How do you say what Jake? Aspen's like 10ft away. Yeah.

[C]

By the way. Staring right at you.

[A]

Jake knows. I didn't have to tell him. He feels it.

[B]

And I'm like, he fills in for college ginger is Thanksgiving. And I'm like, I didn't recognize the voice. Matter of fact, only Jet fans might appreciate this. You ever listen to any Jet radio? Eric Allen, he did some sidelines. Sounds exactly like Jason Garrett.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I don't know if. If Anthony has the time or the wherewithal to play.

[C]

Probably not.

[B]

Audio doppelganger.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm like, he's. He's doing a terrific job. Completely engaged.

[C]

So you are important.

[B]

I mean, no use for the man to know. Becoming a fan.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's.

[C]

You're following him on Twitter. You're commenting on his gram.

[A]

So he's in. So Booger McFarlane still has a chance. He still has a chance.

[B]

Oh, I guess we'll see on tomorrow.

[A]

Right on tomorrow.

[C]

Well, the difference is, though he doesn't hear. The difference is he doesn't workshop.

[B]

And the whole sentence.

[C]

He doesn't talk to. But he doesn't talk to Jason Garrett. The difference with Booger is Booger doesn't have any use for Dom.

[B]

None.

[A]

Yeah. No. No.

[C]

So it's difficult while he. While.

[A]

While.

[B]

While he's literally being paid to be engaged. But Jason, I'm a fan. As an animal. I don't love him. On the. On the deus at the desk, not a fan, but he. But from a color commentary standpoint, that was a tease.

[C]

Worthy.

[B]

You think you. You thought that was over, man, There was no shot.

[C]

Well, after you buried mine, simply because you weren't paying attention, then he came back around and threw me under the bus like I did something. I thought it was worthy. Alan, we. The picture Something we do on the show. It's worth revisiting.

[A]

We do, but if I.

[B]

If I was disengaged, I'm just.

[A]

I'm. I'm acting out how I. You're acting.

[C]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

So we only have a second. Kofi, sit, please.

[C]

Oh, you're bringing Kofi because.

[B]

Kofi.

[C]

No, come on.

[B]

Kofi has corrected errors on this show, supplied information on this show. We've called him our statistician. He makes no money from us. Zero.

[A]

Why would you say that, by the way?

[C]

Most of the people who know. Because he doesn't work from us.

[B]

He's helping us for no money just because he's a fan of the show. He's a good man, and I wanted to give him some love.

[A]

All right, let's get on camera.

[B]

Set.

[A]

Like a general on the headset. There you are, Kofi. Oh.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Kofi, how are you?

[A]

Bring that up on the floor. I'm good. I was expecting you guys to put me on a spot like this.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

No, but you.

[B]

You deserve it. For whatever it's worth, you deserve it because you don't have to give us the information. Like, I'll. I'll ask a question.

[A]

Bang.

[B]

I look at Twitter, and there's the answer right there. Well, let's start with.

[A]

You must listen every day from three to seven. Well, for the most part. For the most part, it feels like it. Because every time we have a question, within seconds, there's a tweet correcting us. I'm just. That's. That's how I've been. Because I was a history minor, so I've always been curious about history, so. Especially sports history. So that's. That's just one of the things I was curious about. Sports has always been a curiosity mind. So just to learn anything, you know, that's. That's.

[C]

So when did. Kofi. When did you become a big listener? So I don't remember, like, the year.

[A]

When I showed up on the show. That's what he said. So January 6, it was. It was. It was funny because at the time I had an internship with the Devils, and there was. It was just on. And I was like, oh, you know, I. I. You know, I was more of. I was more of the fan of the WFN show at the time, but I was like, oh, give it a shot, Michael K. Because I was also working the. With the Yankees at the time. So I was like, you know, I'll give it a shot. And then I was, you know, someone entertained because, you know, you guys had good rapport with Michael and all that. So I just became a fan and I just kept, you know, listening every day.

[C]

Won you over one by one. What?

[A]

Day by day? Yeah, pretty much.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

By day? By day.

[B]

Oh, I think because now I throw things out just for the heck of it, knowing that Kofi will correct me. So I'll get the proper answer. I wanted to give you some love. We got Mark Messier.

[A]

Yeah, I just saw him.

[B]

So all the things you've tweeted me over the years, you never guaranteed anything. So Messier is going to be joining us next. Don Hahn and Rosenberg coming to you live from the NHL Shop at Manhattan's West Plaza. And it's all powered by Game seven brands.

[A]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more. More of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.