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Peter Rosenberg
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Peter Rosenberg
Of the big city. Don Han and Rosenberg. Take a little 6:30 and then it's Rangers, hockey Rangers in Ottawa to take on the Senators. I just want to throw this out because I know I'll end up forgetting, but. So I'm doing the game last night or getting ready to do the game last night, and an individual by the name of Anthony Corona came by and he runs the podcast Running with the Devils that I was on and Kenny's been on, you know, several times. And if you're a Devil fan, you certainly know it. And I was on his podcast during the summer to promote me taking the job. And he. It was really nice. He gave me some gifts and what he did was he got me a couple of Jim Korn hockey cards because I said that Jim was one of my favorite players. So he gave me those and he gave me the media guide, the media edition media guide. So it's all professional. It's in like the little binder of the 86, 87 season. That was the season in which I went to my first Devil game. So he gave me that.
Alan Hahn
That's tremendous.
Peter Rosenberg
And then I told him the highlight of my career outside of being on Don Hahn and Rosenberg was doing game one of the Stanley Cup Final in 2014. And so he gave me a. A game one puck from that. That series the Kings and the Rangers.
Don Hahn
That's crazy.
Peter Rosenberg
And he got me a ticket from that game one. And I thought that was just. That's really nice.
Don Hahn
Can I go on this guy's podcast? I want to get stuff. You got to talk about Devil's hockey.
Peter Rosenberg
But running with the Devils, Anthony Corona. Thank you so much. It was really nice. The fans of the arena have been great and. But he gifted me some really nice stuff. And I thought that was.
Don Hahn
I could talk. Scott Stevens. I could talk.
Peter Rosenberg
Stevens was a former Capital. You knew that.
Don Hahn
By the way, if you get the music ready, you never know what strange poll might come out when we start talking Devil.
Alan Hahn
No. Scott Stevens. Isn't he.
Don Hahn
No, it's not I'd have to go deeper.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Could you.
Peter Rosenberg
What's the strangest poll you can give me of a former devil?
Don Hahn
Burke isn't a strange pole.
Alan Hahn
Randy Vilacec.
Don Hahn
Yeah, Sean Burke's not a strange pole, is he?
Alan Hahn
No.
Peter Rosenberg
I want to hear the music again.
Yeah, but now you put the pressure on him, it's gonna be too hard.
Don Hahn
I got it. And the thing that's frustrating is, you know what I'm do. I can't. I'm not coming up with a strange poll organically. I'm gonna sort of cheat, look one up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look up a team, and then I'm gonna tell you what. Oh, well, yeah, that's the cord.
Alan Hahn
If he's not.
Don Hahn
Is that even a straight.
Peter Rosenberg
I wouldn't say that's a strange one.
Alan Hahn
I'm just coming up with names.
Don Hahn
All right, so here's what. The first name that popped up, what I saw is what I remember well, but I think it's strange. Paul, get the music ready.
Let's talk a little Kirk Mueller, shall we?
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Alan Hahn
Oh, that's not.
Peter Rosenberg
That's not it. He was a captain of the team, for God's sake.
Don Hahn
You think I gave at 8 years old? You think I realized that?
Caller
Kirk Mueller.
Peter Rosenberg
How about.
Alan Hahn
How about you could do better?
Don Hahn
How about Patrick Sundstrom?
Peter Rosenberg
Okay, that's not bad. That's old school.
Alan Hahn
How about. Do you have this memory? Colin White.
Don Hahn
I know.
Alan Hahn
No, that doesn't. Doesn't move you.
Don Hahn
That's cool, man.
Peter Rosenberg
The trivia question, right. The other day, speaking of Sean Burke, the question was, who is the all time Devils leading scorer? Not drafted by the Devils.
And I. And I got it. And don't even rack your brain. It's Bobby Holik, people. Bobby Holik was a Hartford Whaler. The Devil traded for him early in his career.
Don Hahn
Remember Bobby Holy?
Peter Rosenberg
Pat Verbeek for Bobby Holy.
Alan Hahn
And did Holy finish with the Rangers or something?
Peter Rosenberg
He played for the Rangers. Whether. I think he did. No, he finished with the Devils. He came back and played okay. He was a Thrasher. He also was a Ranch. They.
Alan Hahn
The Ram Charger.
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Scott Gomez, one of those. They. The Rangers did sometimes take some old Devils. Bruce Driver was a Ranger. John McClain was a Ranger. Kind of happened a little bit down the stretch, but I just wanted to thank him. And that was really.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, those are great gifts. Hey, you know, just to do this, because Peter loves when I do this. You know, I did cover the 2000 and 2003.
You know, if he wants to have me on. Talk about some old days.
Don Hahn
That's a great point.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know if a gift he'd fit.
Don Hahn
Imagine the gifts you could get.
Alan Hahn
Could get a tooth, right?
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think he gifted me because I went on the podcast. He's a really good guy.
Alan Hahn
Game.
Don Hahn
I. You don't think it's both ticket?
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't. Well, unless he gave Kenny something earlier, I didn't see him give.
Don Hahn
I bet he did ask Kenny.
Alan Hahn
Well, that was awesome.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I thought that was really cool.
Alan Hahn
Very cool.
Peter Rosenberg
So very nice of him to do that. 1-800-919-3776. Let's go to Alice in Verona. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Alice?
What's up?
Caller
Hello?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, we got you.
Caller
I'm calling because I'm a Cowboy fan and I would not pick Dallas, even though they are, you know, for three and a half points, I still wouldn't pick Dallas, only because they don't usually win big games in December. It's been a very long time since they won a really big game in December. Their Decembers are kind of like the playoff games.
Also, I'm not sure if Pickens is playing tonight. I didn't hear anything more about his injury.
Peter Rosenberg
We could probably have Anthony look that up.
Don Hahn
You say that's the kind of thing I should probably know before I call picking him.
Peter Rosenberg
But you know, Alice, it's interesting because you've got the road situation and you're right about December, and that to me, is kind of a Dak Prescott thing. We've. We've had as much as I'm a Dak Prescott fan where like the first half of the season, he's mvp, and then he saved some of his worst performances. Matter of fact, you know, Tony Romo was like that, too. That's like the whole team in general doesn't feel like that. They really rise to the occasion in a big game in recent vintage. And tonight would have definitely be looked upon as a big game.
But that's a Cowboy fan saying December road.
Alan Hahn
See, that's what that is, though, right? That's the. That's the emotion part of it. Oh, we never win big games. It's December now. This is when we never win. Like that. That's. That's what. That's the emotion part of it.
Peter Rosenberg
But the thing too is, is that it might not be a choke job. Detroit might be better. You know, they're home and, you know, Detroit hasn't played great recently, but they're still a really good Team that's desperate for a win too.
Alan Hahn
So that's the part right there.
Peter Rosenberg
Dallas could play great and just still lose the game.
Alan Hahn
This is going to be an over game, right boys? Because it's two. Two high scoring offenses.
Peter Rosenberg
You have to think so big time.
Don Hahn
Well, or is it one that you absolutely think that you settle down, you're all ready for the scoring and then it 17, 16.
Alan Hahn
Remember though, because both like you, you astutely pointed out that 54 and a.
Don Hahn
Half, by the way.
Peter Rosenberg
That's hefty.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that is. But think about it.
Don Hahn
You.
Alan Hahn
You normally a Thursday game, some teams are playing from Sunday. Right. Short week kind of thing. Not that neither team's playing short week. Right. It's a. Nor should have been a normal week for both of them.
Don Hahn
Yep.
Peter Rosenberg
No, this is going to be a great game. Let's go to Griffin in Connecticut. How are you, Griffin?
Caller
Hey, guys.
By the way, yesterday's ENN probably was one of the best ENNs ever. Like we had everything. You name it, it was. It was homemade. It was amazing. Peter, you.
You have.
You have your bar really set high today.
Don Hahn
Oh, thank you very much.
Means a lot coming from you. Thank you, Griftster.
Peter Rosenberg
Did it get out of hand after I left? Did anything good happen after I.
Alan Hahn
We didn't go back to the. To. What did we call that, by the way? It was the. Was it the Cool. We said. We called it something.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, what? The song.
Alan Hahn
The Cool Man. Like we had something.
Don Hahn
Yeah, yeah, the Cool man song. The record. No, that was it.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. But anyways, it was fun. But no, we didn't go back.
Don Hahn
Thanks, Griff.
Peter Rosenberg
Cool man.
Caller
There's something also to keep in mind with tonight's game. The Cowboys offense is a little more different when they are on the road, when the. Except when they're at home. And also the Lions are going to have their offensive line fully healthy tonight. That is what Jeff Darlington said on SportsCenter today, that they are expected to have their whole offensive line fully healthy that they haven't had in a while. And also the Lions schedule. If the Lions can win this game, their schedule does favor them I think moving forward just like the Cowboys. So both teams will be in a very good spot if they can pull out this win. I think it's clearly get one of those final. One of the wild card spots because their schedules are very more favorable down the stretch for both teams.
Don Hahn
Maya, can you say mama?
Yeah, I'm with you, buddy. That's why. That's why I'm so locked into this game, even if I hadn't picked it, I mean, it's just.
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
Don Hahn
It's quite. It's quite literally like you dream about.
Peter Rosenberg
And this is. And thank you for the phone call, Griff. This is going to be a series of games because we'll talk more about it tomorrow when we're focused on the rest of the lineup for week 14. But there's a ton of games where it's going to be live and die. The loser is going to be out, and the winner is going to get a stranglehold on things because. And it's going to be like that the rest of the way. It's just. This is the parody that has hit this sport, and it is going to be just. Even though I'm not thrilled with it, and I don't think the quality of football has been all that great, it still makes for compelling football at the end of the season, because the more games that have meaning, the more you're going to be interested.
Don Hahn
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
You're not going to sit there and break down the quality. Just, hey, this is a meaningful game.
Alan Hahn
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
And that's why the playoffs are so compelling, because.
Every week it's a game seven, it's a win or go home. And that's the way week 14 through 18 is going to be. This last month of the football season is going to be fabulous.
Alan Hahn
You. You've had these. We've had games in every sport where it's like a bad game but a great ending. This could be for the NFL. What has been. You know, it's been a kind of a bad season with a great ending.
Peter Rosenberg
And. And it just could be the luck of the draw, Right. Because it could turn out to be an amazing super bowl with two compelling teams, or it could be one of those years where we get, like. It might be competitive, but it might not be very sexy.
Don Hahn
Mm.
Peter Rosenberg
You know, if you get, like, a Carolina Texan Super Bowl, I'm good.
Alan Hahn
Did you really say that? Carolina, Texans. A lot of. A lot of things have to go wrong for us to get that.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you say that, but they. You wouldn't be shocked if those teams are in the playoffs.
Don Hahn
The playoffs, not in the playoffs. Super Bowl.
Alan Hahn
I mean, what that would. Some really bad things had to have happened, including maybe like an entire stadium was swallowed into the ground on a sinkhole that we didn't know about, and two great teams just disappear.
Don Hahn
Well, you'd hate to see a sinkhole.
Peter Rosenberg
But right now, forget about the history.
Alan Hahn
Went right into the stadium.
Peter Rosenberg
The popularity of the teams. All right. But if you get. If. If Denver represents the afc, I'm sorry, you can't really say that's overly sexy. Now, the Broncos do have a huge following, but, you know, Bo Nix is not getting people out of their seats to go, oh, I got. I got to watch that game. They don't really play that compelling a football. You know, they're a great defense, offense. Eh. So. So if it's a Denver. So who would be like that in the nfc? Oh, if you get a Denver, Chicago, super bowl, forget about the fan base. Is that. I don't know if that's going to get a lot of blood flow.
Don Hahn
Listen, it's not blood flow.
Peter Rosenberg
What is.
Alan Hahn
What is a Super bowl that you could have? Because I don't know if we've got any like, you know, again, the Chiefs were like an America's team type thing because of all their popularity.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Alan Hahn
And then there was people that were sick of them. That one. So there. You're going to dribble. Give me a matchup right now of two teams that if they met in the super bowl, maybe the hatred. Enough of these two teams would draw as much interest as.
You know, just their fan bases being excited because you got to have a. They got to have a notorious. Again, Cowboys. There's people that love them and there's people that hate them. There's one Cowboys.
Peter Rosenberg
Patriots.
Don Hahn
Cowboys. Patriots have a lot of hate.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you know what? We're sick of them. Based on that number on Thanksgiving.
Don Hahn
Kansas City Chiefs.
Peter Rosenberg
Cowboys, Super Bowl.
Don Hahn
No, that's. I got. I'll tell you this. Chiefs, Cowboys. If the Chiefs went on a run. Because by the way, both teams are currently on the outside. If they both made a run. You are talking about easily the most watched super bowl of all time.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Don Hahn
It crushes every metric humanly possible.
Alan Hahn
I think you might be right.
Peter Rosenberg
But there's one.
Don Hahn
I mean, there's not a lot there. If you're being realistic.
Producer Anthony Pusick
If you guys wanted to know. By the way, Don's horrifying. Who suggested Texans, Panthers.
Don Hahn
That was done.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Yeah. Don suggestion. You can get on DraftKings for plus a hundred thousand.
Don Hahn
Don, put a dollar on it.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I got a dollar. But like you look quarters.
Producer Anthony Pusick
I can find the odds for any of the teams. By the way, if you ever want to put up a.
Don Hahn
If you look right now, it's on.
Producer Anthony Pusick
DraftKings on the name the finalists in the futures. In the futures tab.
Alan Hahn
Look at you.
Don Hahn
But if you look here, guys, at everything available realistically, let's start the afc. Let's, let's just try to see what the options are. We all agree New England could potentially go right?
Producer Anthony Pusick
They are the favorites.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, they're the favorites. Right.
Don Hahn
I don't believe in Denver, but they're on the table.
Peter Rosenberg
They could be a one seat.
Don Hahn
So Jacksonville, any of us think are going?
Producer Anthony Pusick
No, they're at plus 1100.
Don Hahn
Ravens anybody? I'm not buying at all.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Plus 850.
Peter Rosenberg
I lost a lot of confidence against incident.
Alan Hahn
That's what it is. It's a confidence factor.
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it's.
Don Hahn
It's not right. He's not right. Listen, their defense was already bad. If the defense is bad and Lamar is not right, there's no team. That's it. There's no reason what's going to happen. What about the chargers?
Producer Anthony Pusick
No, they're plus 2,000.
Peter Rosenberg
No, chargers are right.
Alan Hahn
Isn't there their offensive line injuries, like. Yes, but I will say this, just.
Don Hahn
I will say this.
Alan Hahn
Got the broken finger or whatever he's got going on in his hand.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Yeah, he has a broken hand.
Peter Rosenberg
No, the difference, the difference between the Chargers and the Jaguars is that most people can find LA on a map.
Don Hahn
Well, and, and at their best, the quarterback in LA is better than what we've seen so far.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. But both of them are just like, you know, good looking guys. People know who they are.
Don Hahn
But I do not think Trevor Lawrence is good looking. I'm gonna push back, bid time. All right.
Peter Rosenberg
But, but he looks like a holy blonde hair. He's got the Fabio look to him.
Alan Hahn
He's also. Yeah, he's got the Fabio hair. Ugly Fabio looks like the movie Avatar. But a football player.
Producer Anthony Pusick
I was gonna say both could play sunshine, don't you think?
Alan Hahn
Well, well, but don't you, don't you think when you look at him, you know the Avatar movie, like that's what he.
Don Hahn
Yeah, yeah, he looks very Avatar.
Alan Hahn
And then he just put hair on.
Don Hahn
No movement though whatsoever. No, no, but, but, but Chargers is a little sexier just because it's Herbert and it's la. But you're right, not sexy, Indy. Not sexy.
Peter Rosenberg
No there. Which is a shame because Born for us would be sexy.
Don Hahn
The Colts thing would be fun here in New York because of the Giants thing would get people so annoyed. So that's something. But not really. And then lastly, the sexiest team in the conference is sadly a team who it's wide open for. And the Bills, I just don't think have it this year. That's the. They are obviously guys. They're the sexiest play in the league. And Buffalo Detroit would be the most fun game that the average football fan could get.
Peter Rosenberg
Somebody, somebody's going to win their first Super Bowl.
Alan Hahn
That right? Like, that's right. Somebody's winning their first Super Bowl. Done. And it's also the opposite of the, of what would be the Dallas Chiefs one, which is. You're going to have a lot of hate involved and I want to see them lose. The, the other one is, is seeing who wins. Like it's, it's more of the, the positive. Seeing which team ends the, you know, ends the drought, ends the curse and all that stuff.
Peter Rosenberg
Like it's, it's got a.
You know, the Cubs, Indians, World Series too. Right? Like, yeah. And that, that could be a lot of fun, but we got a long way to go. But still, all those teams. Listen, you laugh at me when I mentioned Carolina and the Texas. If you're in it and this is that kind of year where you're in and who knows what could end up happening.
Don Hahn
Well, that's why, that's why I end up liking a team like a Green Bay or an. Even if they get their San Francisco well coached.
Alan Hahn
Well coached. Yeah.
Don Hahn
Well, the Rams, we know. I mean, the Rams are a favorite, right? At this point I'd say, Anthony, tell me who's more of the favorite right now, the Rams or the Bears?
Producer Anthony Pusick
The Rams are the favorite to win at all at + 450 on DraftKings.
Don Hahn
Okay, so the Rams are the favorite, but if it doesn't happen for them and we get a version of that we got this past weekend and they lay an egg. You could randomly see all these NFC teams.
Producer Anthony Pusick
You get value on the Niners, Peter. They're plus 2800 to win the Super Bowl.
Don Hahn
Plus 28. That's a fantastic number for a team that routinely just shows up to the playoffs and goes on a run.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Don Hahn
Like, I'm sorry, that's just what get.
Alan Hahn
Healthy at the right time would be the biggest.
Don Hahn
Who knows?
Alan Hahn
All right.
Peter Rosenberg
Not sexy with the right coach. No, not Sexy that the 49ers once upon a time were dead sexy. Not sexy anymore. They're, they're the 60 year old model trying to make it work.
Don Hahn
Now. Can I ask you guys a question? We're transparent with our audience and they watch us on YouTube, we hope on ESPN New York. And if you're watching us on YouTube, you could see that we're in different locations today because there's, there's parent teacher conferences.
Peter Rosenberg
There's important things going on today.
Don Hahn
So Is it when you guys are at home? Is it just me? I have to have my volume turned up to like, 14 to comfortably listen to you two. And then when Anthony jumps in, it's as if God is punching me in the face.
Producer Anthony Pusick
It's a problem.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, he's punching my inner ear.
Don Hahn
You guys are going through the same thing.
Alan Hahn
Yes, we are.
Don Hahn
What is that?
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Why? Anthony really comes off aggressive.
Don Hahn
Oh, my God. It's like he wants to kill us.
Producer Anthony Pusick
No, it has nothing to do with me. Shockingly, it's a processing thing.
Don Hahn
Yeah, no, I figured.
Peter Rosenberg
I do the answer a plus 28.
Don Hahn
Okay, buddy. All right. Go with the Niners. Break. Go to break.
Producer Anthony Pusick
No, you're good right now.
Don Hahn
I'm very. But I'll tell you for once, the whole thing pisses me off. The whole thing pisses me off because of all the years for my team to have a setback, injury ridden. You'd be sitting. If the Commanders were the same team they were last year, we'd be going, wow, this could be their year to win the Super Bowl. And instead they're doing absolute Jack nonsense.
Alan Hahn
That's got to be the most maddening part of it, right?
Don Hahn
It's wide open.
Alan Hahn
Your team is too banged up to.
Peter Rosenberg
This is definitely the year to just. You stumble into it. And who the heck knows? Let's go to Danny on Long Island. You're on.
Don Hahn
Oh, we love Danny.
Peter Rosenberg
Hi, Danny.
Caller
Good afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah, when. When. When. When RJ jumps in, I. His name is. It sounds like John Forcenza, the voice of God.
Don Hahn
It almost blew my ear.
Peter Rosenberg
We'll let you finish. Wrong guy.
Alan Hahn
Wrong guy.
Peter Rosenberg
I know.
Alan Hahn
Wrong guy.
Podcast Announcer
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Peter Rosenberg
No, no, but, but, no, but not just RJ or whoever it is. It's Anthony Pusick.
Don Hahn
Anthony Pusick.
Caller
The great Anthony Pusick.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but don't mock the man.
Thank you for the phone.
Don Hahn
Thank you for the call.
Peter Rosenberg
1-800-919-3776. Don't go after my guy to say, oh, R.J. or who? No, no, that's Anthony Pusick, damn it. This guy makes things happen. He makes no money. He comes in longer hours than we work. He works way harder than we do. He makes this show great. Remember the man's name. Say his name. That guy. Thursday next, ESPN New York. Go to hell.
Caller
Damn right.
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He's just being that guy.
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And I want to go to Boston, if I may.
Peter Rosenberg
Go ahead.
Don Hahn
Oh, please.
Alan Hahn
Because they introduced a new pitcher.
And people in New York might recognize this name. His name is Sonny Gray.
Don Hahn
Okay, Sonny Gray. Look what they've done to my boy. I want to talk to you about my. My son, Sonny Gray.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don Hahn
He says you've been very unreceptive to me.
Alan Hahn
Well, this Sonny.
Let'S put it this way. When he, when he. Whenever he pitched in New York for the Yankees, it was always a rainy day and it was raining, probably home runs. But he decided that now that he has signed with the Red Sox, that now he can start throwing shade towards New York. Listen to this.
I
It feels good to me to go to a clean now where. You know what? It's easy to hate the Yankees, right? It's easy to go out and have that rivalry and go in it with full force, full steam ahead.
Alan Hahn
Easy to hate the Yankees. Sonny, it's easy to hate you because when you were a Yankee and Pinstripe, you sucked. You couldn't handle New York. Like, I got to say this, him going to Boston, I have no expectations, and I promise you, he'll still let me down.
And so here's the best part. This again. This. This more about Brian Cashman. Remember, this was supposed to be a big deadline pickup, right? Brian Castron believed this guy can pitch in New York, he could be a Yankee. And here's what Sonny Gray said about when he found out he was traded to the Yankees.
Peter Rosenberg
New York was.
I
It just wasn't a good situation for me. Wasn't a great setup for me and my family. I never wanted to go there in the first place when I was getting. When that was kind of happening and we were in Oakland and, you know, I was getting traded. That was a long time ago. I never wanted to go there. So then I was there, and it just kind of like.
Caller
It just.
I
It just didn't really work for kind of who I am.
Alan Hahn
So. He never wanted to be here. Boys. Look, I get it. He wants to be punchy and feisty, and he's a Red Sox now. So the thing to do when you're a Red Sox is to talk about how much you hate the Yankees and all that stuff. But don't you think he's kind of being that guy? Because you know what? He's not. He's not that guy. No, you're not that guy that you signed somewhere like the Red Sox, and now you can start, you know, hurling these types of things about the Yankees. After the time that you had in New York, which was embarrassing, you'd want people to forget that you pitched for the Yankees, not remind them, who's this Sonny Gray? I remember that dude. He was terrible like this. He's being that guy in this press conference. Don't like it. And I can't wait till he's on the mound in the Bronx against the Yankees.
Peter Rosenberg
Hmm.
Don Hahn
I respect this. I agree with it. You can't argue against it. Absolute that guy moment. I just always loved the name Sonny Gray so much. It wasn't because it's not just the Sonny, it's the Gray. Like, both of them work from a Godfather standpoint. Because I think, you know, you think Mo Green. So, like, there could have been multiple sonnies. You know, the Sonny left, the Sonny Green. Different Sonny's. You have to think about the Sonny Gray. Listen, how do you how do you go through that guy Thursday? And Jacob, you didn't cut what just happened, did you? Did you cut it yet? I didn't ask you to, so I can't blame you. But if you. Oh, you do have it. Yeah, because if you, if you weren't listening a few minutes ago, something happened on the show and listen, I, I'm going to play it for you and then I'm going to take you through my mental on. Okay, this should be good, but there's no question it's appropriate for that guy Thursday. You have it.
Peter Rosenberg
Now, Jacob, that's Anthony Pusick, dammit. Say his name.
Don Hahn
Well, I mean, do you have, do you have the part by any chance that Danny actually. The crime that was committed?
Peter Rosenberg
No, I think we, we took a.
Don Hahn
Call from Danny and anyone who listens to the show, you know Danny, you know, Danny's like, he's like family, but every once in a while we have a family member, you know, who you love. But at Thanksgiving he gets drunk and throws up on the table or I never have decides to bring up politics and get into a big fight with everybody when everyone's having a good time or whatever the thing, whatever the party foul is, invites, you know, his friend over randomly shows up with a prostitute at Christmas. We've seen it all before and Danny has had a rough couple of weeks now. We were just coming off of when Danny acted a little, a little disrespectful towards me. Went on another show, the morning show. Not another show. Our guys DNR in the morning, disrespected me a little bit. We had a whole thing. He came back, he apologized, we welcomed him back with open arms and then this happened.
Peter Rosenberg
Who the heck knows? Let's go to Danny on Long Island. You're on.
Don Hahn
We love Danny.
Peter Rosenberg
Hi, Danny.
Caller
Good afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah, when, when, when, when RJ jumps in, whatever his name is, it sounds like John Fasanza, the voice of.
Peter Rosenberg
We'll let you finish. Wrong guy.
Caller
Wrong guy.
Peter Rosenberg
I know.
Alan Hahn
Wrong guy.
Caller
I'm.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, but, but, no, but not just RJ or whoever it is. It's Anthony Pusick.
Caller
Anthony the Great Anthony Pusick.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but don't, don't mock the man.
Don Hahn
Thank you for the, thank you for the call.
Peter Rosenberg
1-800-919-3776. Don't go after my guy to say, oh, the RJ or who. No, no, that's Anthony Pusick, damn it. This guy makes things happen. He makes no money. He comes in longer hours than we work, he works way Harder than we do. He makes this show great. Remember the man's name. Say his name.
And I started out saying, I'll let you finish. But then the sarcasm after I was not gonna tolerate this is, you know, just throw. Then there's nothing wrong with rj, don't get me wrong. But don't, like, confuse RJ with Anthony, whatever his name.
Alan Hahn
No, not.
Peter Rosenberg
There's no whatever his name.
Don Hahn
Yeah, the RJ part. If he had just said, oh, I'm sorry, I meant Anthony.
Caller
Yeah, no problem.
Don Hahn
We're moving right on.
Peter Rosenberg
Right. And then he does it with whoever. And I was still gonna let it.
Don Hahn
Go, but the great Anthony.
Peter Rosenberg
Sarcasm, mocking. Goodbye.
Don Hahn
No, I'm a no movie for this. I'm going to shockingly defend Danny in this movie.
Peter Rosenberg
You make me sick.
Don Hahn
I think, Alan, tell me what you think. I think when he said the great Anthony Pusick, I don't think he was mocking. I think he was more mocking the way that we always say the great about people. I don't think he was trying to. Further. Now, I still agree with Don's decision to hang up on. It was a bad move. It was a bad moment. It was a tough to get up for a moment when you go, oh, whatever. He is like, Anthony. Anthony didn't just show up last week. At this point, respectfully. Respectfully, if Tom Bauer or Joe Leo or Boombaka or Harvey or whoever was filling in, I'm sorry, it's not polite, but whatever his name is is appropriate. They're not here every day.
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
Don Hahn
Anthony's the backbone. He's got blood in the ground. Take a sip.
Peter Rosenberg
And the thing.
Don Hahn
He can't do it.
Peter Rosenberg
He literally calls every day. Unless he's been suspended and talks to Anthony.
Alan Hahn
That's right.
Don Hahn
Every day. Anthony, can I ask you a question?
Producer Anthony Pusick
Hello.
Don Hahn
How often would you say, like. Like, when. When Danny calls, do you guys chat, or is it a straight. Put them on hold? No. No convo.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Yeah, no, we talk pretty much each time.
Peter Rosenberg
Pretty much.
Producer Anthony Pusick
You know, people still call up and say, hi, Andrew. You know that, right?
Don Hahn
Yes, I'm sure.
Producer Anthony Pusick
So, like, it's not. This isn't like a new thing.
Don Hahn
No, I'm sure. But still, that doesn't make it right.
Producer Anthony Pusick
When they say that, I say no, and then they just get very confused.
Alan Hahn
Mm.
Peter Rosenberg
But. But he was on for a long time. You both have A's in your first name. It's. It's. It's all I got here.
Alan Hahn
All I got to say here is. Is just two things. Number one, I agree With Peter, I don't think the great Anthony Pusick, which is what he said. I don't.
Don Hahn
It wasn't a double down.
Alan Hahn
He didn't say with an eye roll. That was him, like kind of. He, you could tell he got caught in something that he thought was going to be fun. Like he, it was dismissive to him. And, and then he realized, no, wait a minute, I just, you know, I just said something about a family member and I better now get out of this. And he couldn't get out of it. Right. So he tried to like dismiss it fast. That wasn't in an eye roll. I think for that point now he was backpedaling and he popped, he popped the hamstring.
Peter Rosenberg
That's Anthony Pusick, dammit.
Alan Hahn
Right.
And by the way, the beauty of it is we, we got that. But I also will say that Anthony and we have, we have, all three of us have encouraged this and we continue to need to. Does need to jump on the mic, especially when as his Voice of God thing he's got going on today. And I think that also is something that more, the more he does it, the more listeners will know his name. I think he's been a little too humble on this show. He needs to start flexing a little bit.
Don Hahn
But he's still, it's.
Peter Rosenberg
He's in it enough.
Alan Hahn
And that is quite how you do.
Don Hahn
It, by the way. I'm not trying to say no, Anthony, he'll take this the other way and think I'm now saying we get too much of him. I'm not saying that. But he's not like sparse. He's on the show every day. He talks every day on the show. There's no question.
Alan Hahn
When he went in last week on the Giants, that was pretty special.
Don Hahn
Well, that was different then. He really stepped in. But Don, you would say. I would say you might hear Anthony's voice every hour on the show and then he answers the phones.
Peter Rosenberg
You got to know.
Don Hahn
So it's, it's got now. I just don't know where do we go here from Danny, as we're doing that guy Thursday and this is now. He's been that guy now two out of the last three or four weeks. I love the guy, but what do we do here? I'm worried he's never going to call us again.
Peter Rosenberg
No. Well, then that's his choice. I'm not banning him, I'm not suspending him. I just got mad at him in that second and I just, you know what? I didn't care about his point. And you know what? I'm in the kind of mood where, you know what? If I don't like you, I'm going to disconnect. I have that power.
Don Hahn
So you're saying.
Back to the family analogy. He knocked over the wine glass all over the white rug. You said, you know what? Get out. But it doesn't mean you're not invited next year. You're just saying, get out right now. You're drunk and you made a fool of yourself.
Peter Rosenberg
It's like in A Bronx Tale. You put the mush in the bathroom. They never threw him out. He was always there.
Alan Hahn
He was always invited back. He just wasn't allowed around.
Peter Rosenberg
When there's a you gotta go.
Don Hahn
I really think my comp with spilling the wine was much nicer than shoving the mush in the bathroom again. I think that's making it worse. I'm trying to make it better. I don't care if I'm making it worse or better.
Peter Rosenberg
This is Danny from Long Island. He's a regular. He's a member of the family.
Don Hahn
Why do I gotta walk on eggshells?
Peter Rosenberg
I'm mad. We had a little bit of something. It'll be over tomorrow, right?
Don Hahn
Okay. All right, good. But what we all have to go.
Peter Rosenberg
Is Danny gonna forget. Listen, he might want to kill me.
Don Hahn
He'll still call. Now, the thing is, there's only one person out there in the world who wholeheartedly agreed with his sentiment of whatever his name is. And of course, that person is Anthony Pugh.
Producer Anthony Pusick
That's right.
Don Hahn
That's the trouble.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Didn't care at all that this happened.
Don Hahn
Didn't care that it happened. Agrees with him. Feels the same way he does.
Peter Rosenberg
But that, to me, that makes my point.
Alan Hahn
You know what, Peter? I think you need to pick up Anthony, don't you? Right now. Just pick him up.
Producer Anthony Pusick
I see what you're doing. He didn't pick up on it.
Alan Hahn
Wouldn't you want to just pick him up right now? He needs to pick up.
Don Hahn
In moments like this. In moments like this, you want to pick up the people around you or ship them out. If only it was as easy.
Producer Anthony Pusick
Call it Bart. He knows a guy.
Don Hahn
If only it was as easy to pick up Anthony Pusick as it is to do Amazon pickup with my packages. That's the thing. Give me that single shot right here. This solo right here. This is my camera. Okay, good. It's the only one that's here. Let me tell you about Amazon pickup. Alright, I'm gonna put my glass on for this One. Guys, we all know that Amazon's already a part of your life. But Amazon Pickup takes it to the next level. Especially during the holiday rush. Oh man. You're on the go like I am. In fact, you might not even remember where you live these days. But with with Amazon, it's easy. You send your orders.
Peter Rosenberg
See here.
Don Hahn
Think about it like this. I just moved. I barely know my new address. Guess what though, guys, I didn't move far. It's the same pickup location. So it doesn't matter that your address changes because you're sending it to your Amazon locker and counter. It's that easy. Located near you. No matter where your day takes you, your package is ready when you are. For me, Amazon Pickup gives me that flexibility to grab the gifts or packages, whatever, this holiday season when I'm on the go. Alright, simple. You order online and at checkout. You just choose the pickup location that's most convenient. You get an email confirmation when it's ready with instructions to pick it up. It's quick, it's secure, it's always at no extra cost. Check it out for yourself. Go to Amazon.comupPMVP to learn more. That's Amazon.comupup MVP. Wow, Alan, thank you for picking me up.
Peter Rosenberg
That was great. Cool, man.
Alan Hahn
Always here.
Don Hahn
I just got an excited feeling, by the way, that hit me right in my soul. Because not only.
Peter Rosenberg
Here comes the happy.
Don Hahn
Not only do we have an Incredible Thursday nighter 5:30, we got our guy, Damian Woody.
Peter Rosenberg
Yay.
Don Hahn
Yep. Yeah, I look forward to talking to him like he's family. Now if he hasn't watched Napoleon Dynamite, we got problems.
Alan Hahn
There's no way he won. Let's. Let's call it right now. Zero chance he was.
Peter Rosenberg
Zero chance. And I'm mad about it. Did you just give Anthony fraud?
Producer Anthony Pusick
I did not.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, gutless.
Don Hahn
Fraud.
Peter Rosenberg
Fraud, fraud, fraud.
Producer Anthony Pusick
I'll choose to be on Damian Woody's good side. And I think that's a good place to be.
Don Hahn
Did you just. Did you just call the same man that you just defended and hung up on someone for him? Did you just turn around and call Anthony Gutless immediately? It's very fluid. Everything's very fluid on this show.
Peter Rosenberg
But at least I know I'm calling Anthony a fraud, not some guy. Rj.
Don Hahn
Whoever.
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, whoever, producer boy, if I get.
Producer Anthony Pusick
A gg, that would be impressive.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, I get a gg. Get a. Oh. Who are some of the old ones we can throw out?
Producer Anthony Pusick
Grasshopper. Didn't he pick up phones for the show?
Peter Rosenberg
Grass? I picked up Phones.
There's a. Oh, the guy that's in Tampa now. Can't think of his name.
Don Hahn
Is he a charger?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, well, I'll think of his name.
Producer Anthony Pusick
But he says John picked up phones for the show.
Peter Rosenberg
John did pick up phones for the show, for sure. But it's. It's just a bad, bad look for our guy. But Derek in Washington Heights wants to support Anthony.
Caller
Oh, hey, guys.
Don Hahn
Thanks for taking my call.
Peter Rosenberg
What's up?
Caller
So are we still doing the worst call of, you know, are we still doing that? Oh, because I think Danny. I think Danny from Long Island. What are precipitous fall from grapes.
Don Hahn
Am I wrong?
Alan Hahn
So.
He'S on the banned list until someone else gets banned as a worst call, you're saying. Oh, he's released.
Peter Rosenberg
Interesting.
Caller
Am I wrong about that? Peter, this is mute.
This is.
This is as bad as Tarantino calling out Paul Dan. I mean, like, this is like, out of left field.
Peter Rosenberg
That is.
Don Hahn
You're.
Peter Rosenberg
I saw that too.
Don Hahn
Wait, I. I didn't.
Peter Rosenberg
I want to get.
Caller
This is like a great. Calling out another great. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing right here?
This is.
This is Anthony Pusick. This guy is on ENN half the time. No offense, Peter. I love you.
Don Hahn
But that's a good amount of time, though.
Caller
Yeah, no, no, no, no. That was an exaggeration. But I mean, I think also your. Your analogy about Thanksgiving dinner with, you know, him at the.
Peter Rosenberg
At the table.
Caller
I mean, I mean, I think Danny didn't, you know, he didn't spill a glass of wine. I think he might have had an accidental excavation on the white carpet. You know what I mean? Like, I think this is too. We got to put him on some kind of. What do we, like, Is there some kind of, like, super secret probation that we're doing here? Something.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to go that far. I just. I was. I was irritated with him in the moment, but I think Anthony does appreciate the support. We appreciate that you supported Anthony Pusick, but he brought up the dance also.
Caller
I just. Just. Just one last thing. I think he called him the great. I gotta believe that. Sarcastic is like you dream about.
Peter Rosenberg
That's how I talk.
Caller
It's like you dream about.
Alan Hahn
I didn't feel. I didn't.
Peter Rosenberg
I. I. We can. We can listen to it back.
Don Hahn
Wait, by the way, what was our caller's name just now? What's our caller?
Alan Hahn
Derek.
Peter Rosenberg
Derek.
Don Hahn
Well, I'm a big.
Peter Rosenberg
Derek Washington Knights. But he. He brought just quickly, the Paul Dano thing. Quentin Tarantino said There Will Be Blood. You know. You're familiar with the movie guys, right?
Don Hahn
Sure, I sure am.
Peter Rosenberg
And I know you're would have had a chance to be his greatest film of the 21st century. Talking about Paul Thomas Anderson if it didn't have Paul Dano in it. It's supposed to be a two hander, but Dano is weak sauce, man. He's such a weak, weak, uninteresting guy. The weakest blanking actor in saga.
Alan Hahn
Sounds a little personal.
Don Hahn
Oh boy, that's gotta be more. I mean that sounds like.
Peter Rosenberg
If you're joking, you took the joke too far.
Don Hahn
Yeah, I mean, no.
That'S, that's. That shades of Peter Rosenberg at 655 on Tuesday show. You know what I mean? That's, that's.
Producer Anthony Pusick
I don't know what you're referring to.
Don Hahn
Yeah, no one does. No one does.
Peter Rosenberg
I did stumble upon that. You know, I'm a big fan of that film and I thought Paul Dano was brilliant in it.
Don Hahn
Well, guess what? Quinn's not a fan. And by the way, let me say this. Quinn's an all time, you know, great director. He's also shoved himself into movies in horrible acting roles. So. But that's, it's.
Peter Rosenberg
But he's also a snob. He's a movie, of course. And, and I think that's where that comes from is that he's, he's got.
Don Hahn
Listen. You know, I have. Sometimes people just love a craft so much that like they just. There are certain people they hate for their performance. They just like really low. I mean I was pretty harsh the other day on Rodney Harrison because I really find his style on television robotic and bad. It's not for me. I just don't like it. It's not nice of me. It's whatever. But it's visceral. I love the crap.
Peter Rosenberg
Weak sauce.
Don Hahn
Now I know I wouldn't have gone that far.
No. What did he say? The worst member of sag. I mean, that's tough. I mean he brought up the whole guild, for Christ's sake.
Alan Hahn
The whole Guild? That's the whole Guild?
Don Hahn
Yeah, we're all in the Guild. That's Guild on Guild crime is not what you want to see.
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Peter Rosenberg
Don on a Rosenberg until 6:30. Then it's Rangers hockey. Don't forget coming up at 5:30, our weekly spot with Damian Woody and of course, CNN. Coming up at 6. Let's go to Gil. He's in the truck. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Gil?
Caller
Yo, Don, I love you, man.
Peter Rosenberg
I love you too.
Caller
You are true, teammate. Every sense of the word, man. And you know, not for nothing, man, that's a Danny, bro. Nobody else disrespect you guys all the show or Peter or my man apart, okay? Put some respect on his name, all right? Come on, man.
Because none of us do that to you guys. You know what I'm saying? And then you're gonna get sarcastic, okay? Thinking that they could do that and try to get three seconds of fame. Come on, man.
Peter Rosenberg
Anyway, there's momentum building towards the sarcasm, so I'm glad you agree with me.
Caller
Yeah, man. Yeah. And Pete, don't do that. Stand down, man.
Trying to, you know, protect his. His teammate. Ap, you should have ripped Danny too.
That came in and spilled and. And vomited all over the most.
Don Hahn
I agree. I agree. I agree. And I. I agree with. I agree with Don's. I agree with what Don said. I agree with what Don said. I just felt me jumping in at this moment, bro. No, no, I'm not.
Peter Rosenberg
Hold on.
Don Hahn
See that? This is a problem with our. With our nations.
Caller
Go ahead, explain yourself. Go ahead.
Don Hahn
We.
Peter Rosenberg
We don't.
Don Hahn
That way we don't have to paint this with a broad. A broad brush. I was as defensive of Danny's making mistakes when it was about me. I still chose to kind of see the other side of it. I. I am trying to be Danny. A previously tenuous relationship.
Caller
You were contact with your wife.
Alan Hahn
Thank you.
Don Hahn
I appreciate it. I'm just trying to keep things cool.
Caller
And I respect that.
Don Hahn
I'm just trying to keep things cool that I hear what you're saying. He was out of line. There's no question. He was out.
Caller
Okay, Two last things. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off my man. You know that. No, Han, that was a beautiful drop. The sinkhole drop. That was beautiful, man. Don, the 60 year old 49ers, the 60 year old model trying to make a comeback. That was another one. That was great, man. And the way you are the glue, Pete. You're keeping everything flowing smoothly. You're not. You're not trying to overshine, you know, I'm saying you just go with the flow. You like passing the baton on, you know, on a long stretch run, you know what I'm saying? So keep up the good work. I love you. Guys, you guys got the best show, man.
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks, man. Thank you, Gil. I appreciate that. That was good siding with me on that. But I don't want this to become a thing. It was just the one. Danny, please call back tomorrow.
Danny, center point. You're on espn. New York. Center point. Port.
Alan Hahn
Port.
Peter Rosenberg
Sorry.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, Port.
Caller
What's up, boys? I mean, listen, I don't want to continue this because I don't want to give the guy more air time than me. And you know, guys, how much I respect you and like you guys, right? But you know, I, I got a bone to pick with you guys now because, you know, you let this mama Luke back in the family circle again, okay? And he showed us, he showed his colors again, okay? So you know, I've got that drunk uncle that, that says too much and drinks too much. And you know what? At some point you to stop talking to him or you don't invite him back to the, to the Thanksgiving table. And you guys let this guy back to the table. If he completely disrespected Peter and now he's doing it again and it's the sarcasm. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and it's ridiculous, man. I mean, it was totally disrespectful again, to a guy that he speaks to every day, man. I mean, give me a break with this guy already. I'm not agreeing with you guys letting him back in a circle. I know he's a good. But you got plenty of good callers, man. We don't need nonsense like that. So I'm sorry, guys. I disagree with you letting them back in a circle and I would second guess it before you let him back, man. I really would. Han, can I get the one jet point?
Alan Hahn
Always.
Caller
Thank you. Listen, man, I'm going to go on stage right here and say it right now, Alan, I believe in this coach. I think this coach has got what it takes. I'm not going just off of one the wind. I just again, I know you guys talk about they're supposed to show up and play, but this team is playing for this guy. They believe in this guy. And you know what, Alan? If it wasn't for a couple of really lousy quarterback spots and a hard fought loss in week one, this guy would have a couple more wins and maybe he would be five and six.
You know what I mean?
Maybe he would be six and six, which would be. Oh my God. I think that's far fetched. But he's legit, man. His pedigree shows that he can do this. He played this game at a high level. He went scouting on the low end, you know, driving his car. He was an assistant. He was a D coach. This guy has what it takes in my eyes. And I'm going on the point saying, this guy's going to be our coach. And I think he's got what it takes to turn this thing around, man. I truly, truly do. When I was with you, Allen, the other day, I was standing there watching that field goal. I told turn to my wife and said, there's no way he's making this kick. And of course he makes it, and that's just the way things go for us. But it felt good to see that kick go through and these guys rejoice over a win. You know what I'm saying? But I was sitting there there saying to myself, God, if he makes it, so be it. If he doesn't, who cares? This team played hard today. They showed up, and we'll get the loss that we probably should have had instead of winning, because that's what the jets do. But I'm still going on point that this guy is going to be our coach. And I think he's got what it takes, guys. I really do.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, Danny, God bless you. You know I love you. He wears jets passion on his sleeve. He does not hide it. And you can see him into it. I said to say same thing as you. He makes the field go. I clap my hands together and said, all right, that was cool. Now we keep it moving, but that's it. The Dolphins are in town. And again, you want to keep showing something, that's one of those teams that show me something. You're at home against the Dolphins are gonna be a lot of Dolphin fans in the building. Show me something.
Peter Rosenberg
Don't pull a Giants and get everybody hyped up and lose by 30 to the Dolphins on Sunday.
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Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Producer: Anthony Pusick
Podcast: ESPN New York
This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" dives into the huge Thursday Night Football (TNF) matchup, potential playoff scenarios, NFL Super Bowl storylines, and features the fan-favorite "That Guy Thursday" segment. The hour is jam-packed with energetic banter, listener calls, inside jokes, and classic New York sports radio moments—marked especially by a bubbling debate about loyalty, respect, and sarcasm within the listener family.
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For more, listen to the full episode or catch the show live weekdays from 3 PM on ESPN New York.