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Hey, hey, Don 401 of the Big city. It's the Don show, also known as Don Hahn and Rosenberg. But when you don't have Han and you don't have Peter and you just have Don, it's the Don Show. And make no mistake about it, that that open was made to make fun of me because the Don show was said pejoratively. Because what Michael would bring up all the time is I sometimes I would take over the meeting and I would start talking about different things like movies and music and all that, and. And listen, I sometimes get going and they. Michael dubbed it the Don Show. That I'm sitting there, you know, giving my top 100 movies or, you know, talking about my weekend. And I think everybody in general enjoyed it. I don't think Michael did because he always hates it when he's not the center of attention. And because everybody follows Michael because they think that they can actually better their position at the station by liking Michael and agreeing with Michael that it had to become something that I made fun of. But we made it work, and I'm fine with it. And we're having some fun here on a Monday. Peter will be back tomorrow. Allen will be back next Monday. Juan Soto spoke. If you haven't noticed, and judging by the ratings, you haven't, the Mets have really been struggling. Lost two out of three to the Dodgers. And Juan Soto didn't play the last two games against the Dodgers because that calf is acting up again. He's got a strained calf. And Soto was asked, were you surprised about the MRI results?
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I mean, we were expecting something because obviously, definitely going through it a lot. I was in a lot of pain, but I was just keep pushing. And definitely when we got the mri, we know I gonna get some results now.
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He did play on it, as he mentioned. And do you regret doing that?
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No. I don't. I mean, I'm trying to go out there and have my team to win ball games. So whatever it takes. You know, sometimes it's tough. We were hoping that it goes the other way, that I got better and healthier and I could keep going, but it didn't.
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Juan was asked about his future this season. Do you expect to be back this season? Yeah, 100% that he'll be back this season. How confident are you in the team competing next season?
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I mean, you just look at the roster. We have a great players. You know, you just got to stay healthy and try to play better baseball.
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Well, he had me at everything up until that point. We have great players. They don't have great players. They shouldn't be 17, 18 games under.500 like they are. I guess they were 19 now they won yesterday. So they're 18 games under.500. It's embarrassing. This team might lose 100 games. A team that was predicted to win north of 90 is going to lose close to 100 games and finish in last place. I heard Michael mention this, that the Marlins have lost 12 straight and they're still ahead of the Mets. Well, Mets also had a what, 11, 12 game losing streak of their own earlier this season. So it all kind of adds up. But that's the latest on Juan Soto and there is this perception that Soto is not performing well. He's performing very well. I mean, could he perform better? Sure. And you know, he's had a calf issue and now he's going to be on the IL for the next week or so. But he's still a guy that's on pace. He was on pace to, you know, hit high 30s, low 40s and home runs over 100 reis on a team that stinks. He is clearly the best player on this team. Now, it hasn't been the first two years that he thought, or that anybody thought. Remember, without Juan Soto, this team went to game six of the league championship series against the Dodgers with Juan Soto. This will be back to back seasons in which they missed the playoffs. Not exactly moving in the right direction, but I wanted to get into it with Michael Kirk. Michael said this on his show from Chicago earlier today about Juan Soto.
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Do you think in a quiet moment, nobody around, no teammates, no media, no family, he's just sitting in his apartment or house, wherever he lives, staring at the ceiling, ruminating. If Soto doesn't rue the day that he made that decision, because this is one of the great hitters that we will ever see and he essentially Took two years of his career and threw them away. There were a lot of teams that wanted him. Toronto wanted him. If he'd gone to Toronto, he would have gone to the World Series last year again, if he wanted to sign a shorter term contract, could have gone to the Dodgers. They won the World Series and obviously it came down to the Mets against the Yankees. Right. If he'd gone to the Yankees, they went to the playoffs last year and in all likelihood, barring a complete implosion, they'll go to the playoffs again.
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Now, I'm not speaking out of school because I confronted Michael with this during the break on his show, giving him a heads up that I was going to talk about this on my show and that I asked him if he'd be able to join. To retort. Now, he had a very short window to possibly do that, but he's on the bus going to the stadium from the team hotel and they're stuck in traffic. And by the time he gets to the stadium, he's going to have work to do. So he will not be able to join us. Maybe he'll be able to join us tomorrow. It's not gutless or gutters. He's unavailable.
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Why?
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I explained to you, Michael, you told me. Anyway, I'm defending Michael to himself or to drop Michael. I hate Don, but maybe. I'm sure Peter would be excited about this. Maybe we'll have Michael join tomorrow to talk about this. Maybe there'll be a wider window for him to join anyway. That's right, man. So I did bring it up to him. What are you talking about? Michael? All we did is talk ad nauseum when we knew that Soto was going to be a free agent at the end of the 24 season, that he was going to go to the highest bidder, period. Had nothing to do with winning, had nothing to do with market, had nothing to do with who the manager was, had nothing to do who his teammates were gonna be. It had everything to do with the last dollar. That's where he was gonna sign. I thought we agreed to that. Michael, we were arm in arm on
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when everybody else was saying, he's not gonna leave the Yankees, he's not gonna leave those bleacher creatures chanting his name. He loves the Yankees, he loves New York. He'll never go play for the Mets, he'll never go to LA and play for the Dodgers, he'll never go to Canada and play for Toronto. And we both said, Michael Bull, he's going to go to the highest bidder if The Arizona Diamondbacks outbid everybody. He'd be a Diamondback. He didn't care about anything else but getting the mighty dollar. And we didn't criticize him for that. Best player in baseball. He deserves it. Let him go out and get what he needs to get. He'll play hard. He wants to win. But first and foremost, he wanted the most money. And why did you think we came up with that opinion? Was it because we knew Juan, that we talked to Juan, that we had intimate knowledge of Juan Soto's thinking? No. He hired Scott Borris. When you hire Scott Borris, you want the most money.
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Period.
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End of sentence. And we agreed on that. And we talked about that arm in arm walk right down the street, Thelma and Louise, our hands clenched together as the Juan Soto vehicle went off the cliff. Just us. Everybody else talked about, he won't leave the Yankees. He's not just about the money. He wants to win. He cares about his legacy. Michael and I holding hands high. No, he's gonna go to the highest bidder. And now he's talking about he regrets going to the Mets, that he wishes he went to Toronto or LA or the Yankees. He didn't. Do you know why? Because the Mets offered more and they gave the little extras. He was looking for the sweet, his family to be treated special. He just wanted whatever team was going to sign him to do anything it took to get him. He did not want to say no. He wanted somebody to say yes. He wanted that organization, whoever is going to sign him, say, thank you, sir, may I have another? Thank you, sir. May I have another? That's what he wanted. That's what he felt like he earned. He could have stayed in Washington and make 400 million. He knew he could make more. So he left. He knew he wasn't going to make that in San Diego. Goes to the Yankees. If he wanted to win, you stay with the Yankees because the Yankees are always over.500. The Yankees are always in a position to win. The Dodgers were in a position to win. They were coming off a World Series championship. He lost to them. He knew the Dodgers and it wasn't like, oh, it'll be Ohtani's team. I just think he cared about making top dollar. That's all he cared about. Toronto wasn't going to go there. The Dodgers weren't going to go with the years. The Yankees were not going to say, thank you, sir, may have another. The Mets were. And he went to the Mets. So when I confronted Michael with this, Michael said, but he Said he loved the Mets future. He thought they had a better future. He was just saying that to deflect away from the fact that it was all about the money. Anybody that pays attention to Major League Baseball, especially a Scott Boris who knows baseball very well, could tell you the Mets have been very inconsistent. I could tell you that all you had to do is go to baseball reference.com Only once in the history of the organization or twice. Excuse me. Did they go back to. Back to the playoffs. 99 in 2000, 15 and 16, 60 years of existence. Only twice. If they've gone back to back years, they've only gone to the playoffs 11 times. You just had to look it up. Anybody would tell you the Mets are inconsistent. Anybody could tell you that the Mets aren't a guarantee for anything. Why would anybody go to the Mets? Because they've got a brighter future. Stop it. They have no future because they have no past. He went because they paid more money. Michael, we agreed to this for a whole year. We agreed. And now that he's not a Yankee, that he's a Met, he. You turn coat, you got to talk about, oh, well, he regrets going to the Mets. Oh, you know, he's. You're buying into all the garbage you argued against, even in the beginning of the season. Well, first year, oh, he's very sullen. Playing for the New York Mets because he's. They're not winning. He wasn't hitting. Since then, he's been hitting. Other than not getting along with Lindor, which obviously has a lot to do with things other than baseball, we don't know if he regrets anything because this is exactly what he wanted to do. He doesn't feel like he was lied to by Cohen. And he's not a bad player. He's having a great year. He played at an injured calf because he wants to play and I think he wants to win. But he made it very clear to anybody that paid attention he was going to go to the highest bidder. So can we stop with, oh, he's regretting it. He had to know this was on the table. It's the Mets. You could have asked anybody. You could have bought a book. Ask your agent. Hell, they seem like they had a few. They sold me on the future. Now, the one thing that maybe he was duped on, like we all were, oh, Cohen's sitting on $23 billion. So you know they're going to spend money, but it hasn't been a lack of spending money. They got the second highest payroll in baseball and they Paid you everything that you wanted. And then it's just that they hired a bad general manager and hopefully one day they'll fire him. But if he regrets it, it's on him. He could have stayed with the Yankees and win. Could have went to the Dodgers and won the Blue Jays. Hey, listen, I don't know if anybody had them on their bingo card to go to the World Series last year and now they're 10 games under.500. So let's stop with the Blue Jays. He was never going to Toronto because Toronto wasn't going to go there. But it's just how deceitful Michael K. Is that he agreed with me. We were together on the Turncoat. And again, I'm not saying any of this stuff out of school because I said it to him. I might have left out Turncoat when I was talking to him during the commercial break. But I offered him to come on because I was going to say all this to his face. But he can't. He's stuck in traffic. I understand it's an open invitation. But here's the beauty of radio, Jacob, is that there are people don't realize how radio works. They think that because I didn't say it to his face that it's not going to get back to him, that I'm just throwing it out there in a vacuum. Believe me, he's already gotten a tweet from somebody that said, don called you a turncoat. So I know everything I'm saying to him, he's hearing. As a matter of fact, if I know Michael and he's stuck in traffic on the bus, he probably has the app and wanted to listen at 4 o' clock because I told him I was going to do it at 4 o' clock to find out exactly what I said. And don't worry if you missed it. I'm sure Michael's going to play some of this tomorrow during his show. And this is not performative because if anybody listened to the Case show two years ago, tell me I'm wrong. Jacob, you were here. Anthony, you were here. Michael and I were in lockstep when anybody called and said he's not leaving the Yankees. He loves the Yankees. They love him in New York. He's never going to leave the Bronx. And what do we say? He'll go if somebody pays more. And now he regrets it when he went to the team that paid him more. I'm telling you, what's the worst team? What's the most embarrassing team in baseball other than the Mets, the Marlins, if the Marlins, if Huizenka still owned the team and they gave him one more year and one more dollar, he'd be a marlin. Michael we agreed 20 years of doing four hours of radio every day, except for the summer of K and except that the Yankees had a day game. But otherwise, we were always together. We trusted each other. And that was the one thing that I thought we'd go to the grave. Both agree. We could disagree on politics, we can disagree on how to do a radio show, we could disagree about a lot of different things that we can't even say on the air. But the one thing I thought we'd always be together on was that Soto was going to go to the highest bidder. And now, less than two years later, you're telling me that he regrets going to the Mets. Maybe you didn't say it, but you probably thought it. You stay with the Yankees, he got protection from Judge. He'd be going to the playoffs. He wouldn't be on a team that's 18 games under.500 that announced that they're going to have fireworks night every Friday just to get people in the building, because for some reason, people still like fireworks, despite the fact that you see them 15 times a year. You still will go schlep over to Citi Field every Friday that they're home, no matter how bad the team is, because they're going to be shooting fireworks outside the stadium. You can go to a stop and shop and buy fireworks, but you're going to go, you know, pay 50 bucks to park to go see fireworks every Friday at Citi Field. Then he regrets it when you know damn well he went to the highest bidder and would do it again. He could say he wants to win and want he loved the Met's future. And maybe there will be a time, hey, listen, he can opt out, right? And maybe he'll opt out of his contract. And then he'll say something like, well, they weren't winning there anyway. But guarantee if he opts out, it'll be to make more money. And I'm not saying this. We said that a lot two years ago. I'm not saying that it's bad that he's only about the money, but the easy indication that he was about the
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money is
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he hired Scott Boris. When you hire Scott Boris, it's not to win a trophy, it's to get the most money humanly possible. That was the indicator, and I'm sticking with it. 1-800-919-3776 A lot of people Want to climb aboard on this? Jerry in South Hackensack. You're on ESPN New York. How are you, Jerry?
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Hey, Don, thanks for taking the call. I agree with you 1000%. A matter of fact, when you use the Marlin, however you want to call it, I use that on Michael's show when I called him up because I
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got sick of people saying, you know,
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he wanted the sweet. He want.
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He took the most money. And I've got no problem with it, Don.
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No, I don't need it.
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He put himself in a position, right? He put himself in a position to get the most money.
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God bless America. That's what America's about. Don't tell me it's about a sweet
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or mom gets roses every time she walks in the shit.
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I don't want to hear it. It's about the money.
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Well, okay. But the one thing I will disagree, Jerry, I do think that was also important to me him, because I think he wanted to be treated differently than everybody else. The Yankees, I don't think we're going to give him a sweet. That was an advantage the Mets had. There were allegations that it was told that he didn't like the way his family was treated with the Yankees. So I can't agree with you there. I do think the suite and the way the family was treated was important because he wanted to part of the money. When we say all about the money, listen, he can live on what the Yankees are going to pay him, what the Dodgers are going to pay him. With the Blue Jays, we're going to pay him.
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Okay?
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But it is. It's a way they keep score. So when you say it's about the money, it's about the prestige of being the highest paid player, how you feel that you're being pursued in that way. So I do think the suite and the treatment of the family, not that the Yankees treated his family poorly, but they weren't giving the family things like a suite. The Yankees weren't going to go there. The Yankees had a line of demarcation they weren't willing to cross that was unattractive to Soto. Soto wanted to know that the team was going to give whatever he wanted. So I disagree with that portion of it, but I do agree with the overall sentiment that it was about the money. Let's go to Tim in South Carolina. You're on espn New York. What's up, Tim?
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Hey, Don. How are you today?
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Good.
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Hanging in. I enjoy doing the show once in a while.
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It sounds that way.
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I 100% agree with you. We knew he was going for the most money, 100%, you know, whether it was a Swede or his family or this and that, we knew he was going for the most money with that said. What did Michael say, Anthony? Carrie got the drop.
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Is that possible?
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Which drop?
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The drop of Michael saying that, well,
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what, what I just played before about him regretting to go to the Mets.
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No, just in a quiet moment.
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Oh, yeah.
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Would you think? Oh, I think that was his point. I think he's kind of over that. I mean, look, I wasn't happy. I'm a Yankee fan. I wasn't happy left, but I understood it, you know, but like if you're great player like that, do you want to be playing baseball like this right now?
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But you had to know, but you had to know, Tim, that by leaving the Yankees there was a chance that whatever team you were going to land with, that this was a possibility. The Yankees, this was not a possibility. They never have seasons like this, ever. The Yankees do not do this. They may not win a championship, but they're never going to embarrass themselves. He was willing to leave because there were things that were more important than that.
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I know. And that was what was the biggest frustration with me when he came out with that for cocktail line of, oh, well, I think they have a brighter future than the Yankees.
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I never believed when he said it.
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You.
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Yeah, and I mean, we all did.
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I mean, we knew what it was at the time.
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I mean, you guys talked about on the show, like, I think Michael's point is just like in, in a quiet
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moment,
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is it possible that he goes, oh man, maybe I messed up?
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No, I mean, I, I get what you're saying about like, I can't. Well, here's the, here's the deal. And, and listen, the reason I'm upset with Michael is if it was all about the money, then two years later, all right, he's having a good season. He played through a calf injury on a team that's losing. So I'm not saying that he's selfish, but what I'm saying is he's somebody that wants to be able to get his numbers. He was sullen when he first came to the Mets. They were winning. And he was sullen because he wasn't hitting. Juan Soto, if he's hitting and he's making his money, he'll find happiness. He's only in year two of a 15 year contract. As bad as the Mets are, they will have winning seasons. Like, they're not going to go the next 13 years of being under.500. But he had to know once he left the Yankees, this was a possibility. And all he had to do is look at the Mets history. 60 years of Mets baseball. 11 times they made the playoffs, only twice they made the playoffs in back to back years. So he had to know this was on the table and still took their money. And two years later, just two. A year and a half later, in a quiet moment, he's staring at the ceiling, regretting his decision. Or is he upset that his calf is hurt and he's not able to go out there and perform? What makes more sense?
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Time now for the weekend recap and it's brought to you by Neutral. Now here's my weekend recap. I'll give you two, but I'll start with what happened to me on Saturday. Now you know I'm from Hawthorne, New Jersey. So if you know anything about Hawthorne, New Jersey, it's known for two things. One, it's where Deborah Harry grew up from Londy. And the Hawthorne Caballeros. Hawthorne Caballeros were a big, big deal marching band. They play Giants Stadium for Jets and Giants games. They played Yankee Stadium. They've won tournaments all over the country. They're very, very well known. Well they had a competition over in Mount Olive on Saturday and that's where my sister in law is from. And so we went to see my wife's cousin. Norm Norman is an alumni of Hawthorne Caballeros and the current Hawthorne Caballeros were competing with teams around the region. There was a marching band from Kings Park, Connecticut, Princeton, Dover, and there was one from Reading that actually won the event. And then the Hawthorne Caballeros alumni, they perform after and so we go there to support and it's actually a fun time. I know it sounds kind of nerdy to watch Marching bands, but if you get good ones and there's a bunch of people and these kids really put on a nice performance. And it was a beautiful day, and they've got food and everything. So we went. I'm sitting next to a guy that is the doppelganger for Joe Judge, the former head coach of the New York Giants. I mean, to a tee, had his hat backwards. Just the way he presented himself, everything. Not that I have that much of knowledge of Joe Judge, but, you know, for the couple of years that he was here, I saw him. I wasn't thrilled with his performance by any stretch of the imagination, but he seemed like a nice enough guy. We interviewed him on the K show. I saw him at Eli Manning's retirement, talked to him there. So I feel like I got to know him a little bit. I'm telling you exactly the whole time, it was like two and a half hours, I'm sitting next to this guy. I'm like, this is Joe Judge. Joe Judge is the quarterbacks coach at Ole Miss. His son's playing as quarterback at Ole Miss. So I'm like, it's late July. They probably are starting training camp. Why would he be in Mount Olive, New Jersey, on a Saturday night watching marching bands? But I'm telling you, it looks just like him. I couldn't let it go. So when it was over and we're getting up to leave, I said, I'm sorry to bother you. You look so familiar to me. Is your name Joe? He goes, no, my name is Mike. And his son was in the Hawthorne Caballeros, and he was from Succasan in New Jersey. And we talked for a little bit, parted ways, guys. I think he was lying. I think it was Joe Judge. Because if you're Joe Judge and you're in New Jersey, would you want to be recognized? Like, would you want people to know that you're Joe Judge after the two seasons he had as the Giants coach? I think we're all over it now. They had a failed coach after that, and now we've got John Harbaugh and we've moved on. We got Jackson dart and all that. But was the taking the knee at the goal line against the commanders that unforgettable that he's incognito in New Jersey now? He wasn't wearing sunglasses and he wasn't trying to hide himself. But I ask you, Anthony Pusick, as a Giant fan, do you think that was Joe Judge and just didn't want to admit it because he didn't know which way it would go.
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So I have more faith in you than this random man that looked like Joe Judge. I do believe that it was Joe Judge. The only thing that I am questioning is what he was doing at this event.
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Well, that's a big thing to question, right?
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I would think so, yeah.
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But you don't know. Like, who knows why? One of the biggest things I get, because I don't live in New York City. I don't live, like that close to the city. I'm more in Central Jersey. So when I get recognized in Central Jersey, the first thing I get is, what are you doing down here? It just doesn't seem conceivable that why would I be in Central Jersey when I work at a New York radio station? But not everybody lives in New York City when they're working in New York City. But no, that's the. That's the difficult thing. Like, why would he be in Mount Olive, New Jersey, just like on the eve of training camp opening at Ole Miss, and the last I checked, Mississippi and Mount Olive, New Jersey, not close. But you never know, man. Right? I mean, is it possible that he just knows somebody and he did have a free day and he did make a lot of money with the Giants, so hopping on a plane and checking something out. Like, could he have had a relative in the Hawthorne Caballeros? And figures, all right, I got the day off. I'll go visit some family. He's from Philadelphia. Anthony.
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Yeah.
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We don't know if he necessarily sold his house in, so.
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No, but he could have. Right? So he's from Philadelphia. He might have family there and figure, oh, there's something going on in New Jersey. Now, Mount Olive's not close to Philadelphia, but, you know, it's a lot closer than Mississippi. I mean, is it. Listen, it probably wasn't him, but I'm telling you, if I had any more room on my phone, I would have talked to him long enough to say, hey, you want to take a picture? It would have been weird and creepy, but at least I'd have evidence.
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It's a much better story if it
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is him, though, and he lied about it. But do you think he'd have to lie about it, though?
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Listen, he was not the best with the media here.
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No, he was not.
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I could say that he in a moment going, maybe I should just lie and say no, because who knows where this is going to go?
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But he was so bad with the media that I think if it was actually Joe Judge, he might. He might run instead of just. Instead of Quickly saying, no, my name is Mike and I'm from Suck Asana. So I think it wasn't him, but I swear to God, I look just like him. And it's not like Joe Judge is like, has a common look.
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No.
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Anyway, that was very random. The other thing everybody knows I killed off Sidney Poitier. Unfortunate for those of you that do not remember Jacob or Anthony, do the honors. And this was a Don. Did you tweet Rest in peace to Sidney Poitier.
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Yeah.
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92. He passed away. It's his birthday today.
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No, no, no.
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Oh, turns 92. Dear God. Now that was genuine, like shock reaction because I was convinced he died, not just because I just can't read. That's my problem. That it was his birthday. He has since passed away, but at that moment. But I, it was, I tweeted it out. Five minutes later, Peter calls me out on the air about it. It's. It's clarified. So everybody knows how much I love the 80s Countdown and 80s on 8 on Sirius XM. And I especially love it when it's the early 80s. And this year or this weekend it was 1981. Next weekend it's 1980. Whoa, I'm over the moon. So 81, right? My wheelhouse. Really good music because I love all that yacht rock and great stuff. So the number two song this week in 1981 was Betty Davis Size by Kim Karnes. You all, I'm sure, are very familiar with the song is one of the biggest songs of the 80s and it's number two. So if anybody that's not familiar with the 80s on 8 Countdown is they take the. All the DJs on 80s on 8 are from MTV. So Alan Hunter, Mark Goodman, and they're, they're the DJs that, that do it. And Nina Blackwood. Those are the three. And they alternate introducing the songs. So it was Alan Chance to do it. Alan Hunter is the DJ that's going to announce the number two song. And he guys, he says this song, it's sad to look back on since the recent passing of Kim Karnes. I'm like, I didn't hear she died. So I look it up and no, she's still alive. She's 81, but she's still alive, still with us. So I'm thinking maybe this is Friday night, the first time they air it. So I'm like, maybe she did die just like within the last day. And they haven't updated or whatever, or it was just a mistake or whatever. They'll edit it out. They'll change it. They re air it at 11 o' clock on Saturday. I happened to be in the car. Listened. They never. They didn't edit it out. Replayed it again at five o' clock on Saturday. Still there. Replayed it twice on Sunday. Still there. So he makes the mistake of saying Kim Karns is dead and it's it lives for the entire weekend. Nobody edited it out. There was no retraction. There could be people that actually think Kim Kard's died because it kept getting repeated over and over again. Mine got corrected in five minutes. I was embarrassed, but at least it got corrected. And I was able to go back and take down my post rip for Sidney Poitier when it was actually his birthday. Odd. I wonder. I have it on my app. Will it ever be taken down? I think that's egregious.
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You think someone should. At some point, someone should take it down. Peter corrected you right away.
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Right away. And you know what? It was embarrassing. But I'm glad he did it because otherwise my post would have been up there. And then if I didn't notice then it might have been a whole weekend that that was up. Now. Who is it that died with Total Eclipse of the Heart? She just died last. Bonnie Tyler. I think that's who he confused it with. Kind of around the same age, same genre of music. So maybe he confused Bonnie Tyler passing away with Kim Karns. Okay, I can't read he misremembers. Nobody went up there and corrected it. I wonder if anybody else had heard that or was there any kind of retraction. He's not on social media. Alan Hunter. So I don't know how he would have gotten that message out there, but I don't know. Kind of a quirky weekend for me. I miss I confused somebody for Joe Judge. I call out Alan Hunter for killing off Kim Karnes. But maybe it was just a case of, hey, I want to feel better that I'm not the only one that kills off celebrities. That was your weekend recap brought to you by Neutral. Keep it tasty with neutral vodka seltzer made with real vodka and real fruit juice. Enjoy. Responsible.
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You don't know how close to right you are, Don.
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What's that?
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Because apparently Jacob has found out something that this may be closer to the Sidney Poitier story than you even realize.
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Go ahead. Kim Karnes, her birthday was July 20, so probably he probably meant to say happy birthday and just. No, no, no.
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Didn't.
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Oh, turns 92. Dear God, are we allowed to play any serious stuff?
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Probably not.
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Probably not because I want to be able to air it just so people, you know, what happened was I. The reason that I kept going back and listening is like, am I misunderstanding this? But yeah, maybe. Maybe he saw the post that it was her birthday and assumed that maybe she was dead. Maybe that's a thing that people have. Probably. Also, two weeks ago she put out a Facebook post to remember Bonnie Tyler. So it could be also that too, so. Well, Alan, I can empathize with you, buddy, because I've done the same thing. We kill off celebrities. It's all 1, 800, yeah. I wonder when somebody like did Nina Black would call him and did he go, oh God, I wonder what his reaction was. Well, obviously his reaction was to call somebody and edit out the replays because it stayed in there all weekend.
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B
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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A
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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B
Catch the the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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1-800-919-3776. Back to the busy phones. By the way, Bob was shoes and will join us at 5:30. Talk a little jets and just general hijinks. It's always fun to talk to Bob. And at 6:00', clock, Anthony Pusick is going to handle ENN. Jonathan is in LA. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, guys.
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F
Hi, Don.
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How are you?
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F
We, we love the dance show the vehicle only done. We left on. We gotta love that. We love this only Don show. Johnny. I think Michael meant that if he regrets that Juan Solo regrets that decision. I know we all know he was gonna go to the highest bidder, which he did. But now does he regret going for the highest bidder?
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Example, when I was a teenager, 20
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years old, I had a good job for two years. All sort of good job. But then I got offered a job that I was getting paid a bit more. I went to that job and what happened? Two weeks later I quit and I went back to my old job because, you know, I was like, it's, it's, you know, I just, it wasn't the same. Even though it was for more money, it wasn't the same. So I think that's what Michael meant, you know, regarding the money, putting everything to the side. Does he sit back and sometimes regret that decision?
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Well, let me ask you this, Jonathan, because I think this is the crux of the argument. Let's say two years ago the Chicago White Sox offered Way more money than anybody else. What if he had said no? I know the White Sox are in first place right now, but White Sox had 120 loss season. The other like they awful one championship since 1917. Like would he have said no because you guys never win or what? Are you taking the money?
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No, I think he would have still taken the money. I think it's a natural thing. If you ask anyone, if you offer that amount of money or whatever, a big amount of money for whatever compared to whatever you win, your course you're gonna say yes. But then eventually you're gonna regret that. I mean, I'm not just saying it just because it's the Mets. No, it's not. But I think he's starting to regret it. Especially now because you got players like Bryce Harper and, and Mookie Betts talking about the team and then there's drama in the team and all that. It could be whichever team. But I think he's looking back and oh my God, I should have just kind of stayed where I was at. You know, it was kind of the sort in the same figures. But you know, that's what I think.
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Well, listen, I, you, you might be right and Michael might be right, but I just think after a year and a half, it's been a tough season. I get it. But when you're going to go to the highest bidder and a year and a half later you're regretting it. He had to know. If I leave the Yankees and I go anywhere else, there's the potential of a bottom out season. Look what happened to the Diamondbacks after they went to the World Series. Look at the Blue Jays go to the World Series. They're under 500. San Francisco Giants won three championships in six years. Where have they been since? They've been one of the worst teams in baseball. Look at Kansas City, back to back World Series a decade ago. Where are they right now? Texas Rangers. I understand they're in first place, but they're only two games above.500. They're two years removed from a championship. Didn't make the playoffs last year, may not make the playoffs this year. Seattle, same thing. They're one of the best teams in baseball last year. They may not make the playoffs this year. Everywhere there's inconsistency. Except two teams, the Dodgers and the Yankees. And he said no to both. And I'll take the Dodgers out of the equation because they weren't offering as many years. He knew that if he stayed with the Yankees, they had just come off A World Series that I am going to be in contention every single year. How do I know this? Because they've been in contention for 30 straight years. I'm going to the Mets. Yes, they have a new owner, but under that owner they haven't won anything. 11 playoff appearances in 60 years and now a year and a half later. Well, I regret that now. The one caveat to this, and I'll bring this up with Michael Oviatman tomorrow, is his regret listening to Scott Boris. Because I think sometimes these players forget that the agent works for them, not the other way around. And I think sometimes these agents lead these players by their nose and they just don't think I'm going to go to the most, I'm going to make the most money. I have an obligation because of the kind of player I am to take the highest money so that the next guy could do the same thing. Let's think about the future with these players. If I start taking discounts, then other teams are going to offer discounts to other players. Scott Boris would have never let Judge take less money to stay with the Yankees. Boris would have had him go to the San Francisco Giants for one penny more just because that's what Boris does. So is there a regret being led by your nose by Boris? Possible. But then all of a sudden now he's found religion. 18 months later he's found religion when all he wanted was top dollar and he had a team that could offer him winning every single year or close to it. And he left. And 18 months later he now regrets it. No way. Let's go to Joe and Putnam Valley. You're on espn, New York.
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E
Hey, Don, thanks for taking my call.
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Always.
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Yeah. So I just want to come at it from a little different angle that I haven't heard discussed before. And I apologize because you won't be able to watch the video in real time while we're talking. But I, because I'm a die hard Yankees fan, love the Yankees. Juan Soto's a beast. And he already won a title, Right? He came to the Yankees, they hadn't been to the world series in 15 years, right. He has a great postseason and he hits probably one of the more. If they had gone on to win the World Series, one of the more epic home runs in Game 5 against the Guardians. So everyone's been talking about. Yeah, and everyone's been talking about money. Right Now I'm gonna go slightly different. Go a little bit ego, right? Because he's an alpha. He's an alpha baseball player, right? An alpha athlete. So he does all this. He actually caught the last game, I mean the last fly ball, like the last out of Game 5, and was so excited to get on that podium, that post game show, right? And they didn't even ask him a question. Like they talked to Judge because he's the captain and they talked to Stanton because he had a monster postseason. He was the mvp. They never even asked Juan Soto a question on that postgame show. I don't know if you remember that, but again, I remember it clearly. I remember thinking in that exact moment that, wow, this guy's probably sitting there thinking, I just hit one of the biggest hits in Yankees history and they didn't even ask me a question. Like, so I think it's a little bit. I think he might have chose the Mets apples, you know, like the offers weren't that far apart, but maybe he just was like, you know, I might have always thought I might be in the shadow of the Judge, but now, like even they didn't even ask me a question even after Stanton, like, maybe, maybe I should go to my own team and build my own. Maybe that's just my take.
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Listen, you may not be wrong, but here's what I would say, Joe, to that. He signed a 15 year contract. If he signed a 15 year contract with the Yankees, matter of fact, you even heard rumors that he would have signed a 16 year contract. It just wouldn't have been for the same money, wouldn't have been for the same AVV or aav. I forget what it is. He would have outlived Judge and Stan, certainly Stan, I mean, there would have been like eight, nine years of that contract where he's the man in his prime. Because you know, how many years is Judge going to be judged? 2, 3? Stanton, he may not play again this year. Who knows what Stanton's future is. So by like year four of that contract, with 11 years left on his contract, he's the man. He would have been the man on a team that always wins. And he's the man now. Is it not good because the team's losing? But he's the man now. He was the man last year. They didn't go to the playoffs, but they won 83 games. They were in the race. So if it's all about the ego of being the man, he's certainly that. But he would have been the man with the Yankees if he just waited a few years after Judge and Stanton are gone. He would have been the best player on that team for a decade.
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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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A
I don't want to know how the
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sausage is made, man. I just want to know what's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.