Hour 2: Tyler Murray & Fraud Alert Friday

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 2: Tyler Murray & Fraud Alert Friday
Release Date: May 23, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into the intense NBA playoff series between the New York Knicks and the Indiana Pacers. The discussion is enriched by a special guest appearance from Tyler Murray, the Knicks' new play-by-play broadcaster. Additionally, the hosts introduce their recurring segment, Fraud Alert Friday, which engages listeners through interactive conversations and humorous takes on fan experiences.

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Interview with Tyler Murray

Timestamp: [03:21]

Alan Hahn introduces Tyler Murray, praising his recent performance:

“We've been throwing flowers at this guy, and rightly so, all year long, and he absolutely nailed the Halliburton 2.”

Tyler Murray shares his excitement and insights as a first-year broadcaster:

“It helps a little bit that I don't necessarily have a professional point of reference, so I'm not necessarily losing my mind. We're just kind of taking it one step at a time.”
[Timestamp: 05:11]

Discussion Highlights:

• Handling High-Stakes Moments: Tyler discusses his approach to calling high-pressure situations, emphasizing staying calm and relying on his co-host, Monica McNutt, for perspective.

  “You just keep it simple, that gives you a good foundation where you don't have to overthink things.”
  [05:11]

• Knicks vs. Pacers Series Insights: Tyler analyzes the Knicks' strategy and the Pacers' resilience, noting the importance of key players like Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns.

  “They don't have an answer for Brunson, they don't have an answer for Towns.”
  [08:41]

• Player Fatigue and Team Depth: The conversation touches on the impact of player minutes and team rotations, with Tyler highlighting the Knicks' endurance compared to the Pacers.

  “The Knicks have been playing 40 minutes all year. They should be ready to roll.”
  [10:09]

• Broadcasting Challenges: Tyler reflects on the challenges of his rookie season, balancing enthusiasm with professionalism during pivotal game moments.

  “It's a very first season. So what was that like for you to call, when you think about this is something unlike anything anybody has ever seen.”
  [04:17]

Notable Quote:

“As long as the Knicks are taking it and I still got a lot of faith, I think it's going to be a long series and I'll take the Knicks against anybody right now.”
— Tyler Murray
[14:28]

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Game Analysis: Knicks vs. Pacers

Timestamp: [02:25]

Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg discuss the aftermath of Game One, highlighting both the Knicks' strong performances and the controversial ending that overshadowed their victories.

Key Points:

• Jalen Brunson’s Performance: Brunson’s outstanding statistics are acknowledged, yet critics focus on the game’s abrupt conclusion.

  “Jalen Brunson had a 43-point performance, his eighth 40-point performance of the playoffs, which is the most in franchise history.”
  [08:41]

• Defense and Strategy: The hosts debate Coach Tom Thibodeau’s strategies, especially his decisions to prioritize offensive play over defensive stability during critical moments.

  “It might be a case of, you know, I don't know what I don't know.”
  [07:08]

• Player Matchups: The effectiveness of player matchups, particularly how the Pacers are handling Knicks’ key players like Towns and Brunson, is a focal point.

  “The only surprising part was that the Knicks enabled them to hang around.”
  [06:17]

Notable Quote:

“Defensively, the starting five was not good to start the game. And when they were on the court together as a unit, they were not great defensively.”
— Alan Hahn
[11:10]

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Fraud Alert Friday Segment

Timestamp: [27:01]

The Fraud Alert Friday segment kicks off with humorous interactions and listener submissions questioning the authenticity of their fan loyalties.

Listener Interactions:

• Jorge’s Dilemma: A listener named Jorge contemplates his shifting basketball fandom, questioning if his renewed support for the Knicks after years of following other teams makes him a "fraud."

  “Am I a fraud? Sincerely, Jorge or George in Connecticut.”
  [27:39]

• Sean’s Confession: Another listener shares his long-term allegiance to the Cleveland Cavaliers and his brief, questionable stint with the Knicks, seeking validation on whether his basketball fandom qualifies as fraudulent.

  “Am I a fraud for choosing to support a non-local team?”
  [38:16]

Hosts’ Responses:

• Peter Rosenberg humorously declares the listeners as "frauds" while acknowledging their genuine experiences and changing loyalties.

  “I'm a fraud with a capital F.”
  [26:57]

• Alan Hahn and Anthony join in the playful banter, emphasizing the lighthearted nature of the segment while addressing genuine listener concerns.

  “It's fraudulent behavior, but we're going to let him go.”
  [31:31]

Notable Quote:

“Am I a fraud? By the letter of the law, technically yes, but it does seem genuine.”
— Peter Rosenberg
[30:18]

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter, calls to action for listeners to engage with upcoming games, and a reminder of the next Fraud Alert Friday. The hosts emphasize the importance of staying connected through various platforms and encourage listener participation.

Final Thoughts:

• Promotion of Mental Health Awareness: Anthony highlights BetterHelp's services, aligning with Mental Health Awareness Month, and underscores the show's commitment to supporting listeners' well-being.

  “We're all better with help.”
  [50:41]

• Upcoming Coverage: The hosts tease their extensive pre-game and post-game coverage on MSG Networks and ESPN New York, ensuring listeners are informed and engaged throughout the playoff series.

  “We'll be doing full one-hour pregame and postgame shows.”
  [15:37]

Notable Quote:

“This is the Dime on Han at Rosenberg podcast.”
— Don La Greca
[00:30]

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Key Takeaways

• Tyler Murray’s Fresh Perspective: As a new broadcaster, Tyler brings a grounded and analytical approach to Knicks' game commentary, earning praise from the hosts.

• Knicks vs. Pacers Dynamics: The series showcases strategic gameplay, player endurance, and pivotal moments that could define the outcome.

• Engaging Community Segments: Fraud Alert Friday fosters interactive and entertaining discussions, strengthening listener engagement and loyalty.

• Holistic Content Approach: Balancing in-depth sports analysis with humor and community interaction, the podcast remains a comprehensive source for ESPN New York and New Jersey sports fans.

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For those who haven't listened: This episode offers a compelling mix of expert analysis, insider insights from a new broadcaster, and engaging community interactions, making it a must-listen for Knicks enthusiasts and sports aficionados alike.

Transcript

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[Don La Greca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

Please be smart. You know there'll be checkpoints. You know how it goes on a holiday weekend. Just don't do stupid things. Just be smart about it. And understand that if you've had a few, get an Uber. Ubers are easy to get these days. Stay off the roads and just have your fun. But just be smart about it. But seriously though, Don and we're gonna get Tyler Murray here in a minute to join us. I feel it's great to chat with him. What a call he had at the end of game one. But I want to mention just quick though, that's this series. Let's not glaze over the fact that Mets and Dodgers the like that's. Let's watch that series as well with with pay a lot of attention to it. If you know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of course. I mean, it's a rematch of the league championship series. The Mets, maybe.

[Alan Hahn]

It could wake them up a little, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's that?

[Alan Hahn]

It could wake them up a little, I think.

[Anthony]

Or make you feel terrible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, it can go either way, right? It could just be what finally spurs them on, or it just could dig them deeper into the abyss. They are not hitting. They finally put up five runs in the last game of the series at Fenway, but I think they've gone, what, seven straight games without hitting a home run. Alonzo hasn't a home run in three. Thirteen straight games. That's the longest for him. They're just not scoring. But I think even with the Knicks and everything going on, that should be a packed house at City Field. And there's certainly a lot going on this weekend, but please be responsible. We've been throwing flowers at this guy, and rightly so, all year long, and he absolutely nailed the Halliburton 2. He has done a great job of Monica McNutt right here on 880, ESPN New York, and on 1050 calling the games for Knicks radio. And he's Tyler Murray. He joins us here on Downtown Boys. There he is. You know the boys. How are you, sir?

[Tyler Murray]

Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Just about to head into the Garden. Hopefully a better result tonight, but thank you for the kind words as always.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Before Alan jumps in, I just got to ask you as a play by play guy, what was the indicator that it was a two? Everybody thought that that was a three by Halliburton. Did you see his foot? Was. Was the official the indicator? Why did you seem to be on it being a two from the get go when everybody seemed to think it was a three?

[Tyler Murray]

Yeah. You know, people say Zach Zarba has the best hair in the league. I think he's got the best hands in the league. Very firm two on the official's right hand instead of three in the air. And he was actually right behind Halliburton, so he was very present, at least from my angle. So, yes, shout out to Zach Zarba. Not a shout out to the back rim, though. That was. That was very upsetting to see it go through. But look, the Pacers, obviously, they've proven they can pull these things off in the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, you are in your first year as an NBA play by play guy, and the kind of year that you're experiencing, it's. I just want you to know it's not supposed to go like this. Like. Like the years of People who have done broadcasting for the Knicks, everybody that has come through here and maybe have moved out, like Spiro Dietis, like several other people, like, checking in and it's like, this is, you know, like, this is. Must be so much fun there, you know, it must, because they know what the, what the Garden is like, what the area is like when the Knicks win. But they, you know, also remember times when they weren't. What you're going through this year is amazing. But that game, though, because anybody can say to you, like, boy, have you ever seen anything like that? I know you haven't, right? Because this is your first season. So what was that like for you to call, when you think about this is something unlike anything anybody has ever seen. Those last three minutes, you know, maybe.

[Tyler Murray]

It helps a little bit that I don't necessarily have a professional point of reference, so I'm not necessarily losing my mind. We're just kind of taking it one step at a time. And I'm so lucky to have Monica in the booth with me that she can kind of give that perspective. But it has been interesting to, to see this Pacers rivalry renewed. Like, I grew up a Knicks fan. I still am, of course, but for me, it was. It was the Miami Heat that bothered me the most, and the Boston Celtics, because I'm a New England raised Knick fan. That was. That was pretty satisfying to knock them off. But now, especially after game one, the Pacers are absolutely there. And, man, would it be nice to have another comeback to respond to the choke signal like they did to beat Reggie Miller 30 years ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As you were preparing for this series, Alan reminded us too, this is kind of what the Pacers are. Maybe not as dramatic as what we saw the other night with the back rim and all that, but they've kind of made a living of doing this. So as you were putting it together, as surprised as you were at how it happened, was it all that surprising? They didn't go away.

[Tyler Murray]

The only surprising part was that the Knicks enabled them to hang around. We've seen the Knicks on the positive side of these playoff comebacks, and, you know, they've been digging deep into the tape to see what the Pacers did against both the Bucs and the Cavs. So that was the only surprising part. You figured the Knicks have been through so many ups and downs on both sides of these wild games this year that they would have that knockout punch, but, you know, they had to learn the lesson the hard way. And I'd be surprised at this point if it Happens again.

[Anthony]

When you go into a game like this. Obviously, Tyler, this is new for you. This level is a different thing. Any nerves for these games, does it hit any different? Or at this point, after a full season as the Knicks guy and having someone great like Monica with you, you just fully calm as can be heading into these games?

[Tyler Murray]

Yeah, I think more the second part. That's a good question. And it might be a case of, you know, I don't know what I don't know. So maybe if I had done, you know, 10 years of, you know, lottery teams and then done this, maybe I'd be a little more amped up. But as far as I know, this is how it works as a Knicks broadcaster, and I know how fortunate I am for that. But then you just keep in mind that, like, I've listened to Knicks on the radio for years, driving back from, you know, the minor league baseball games or the college games I used to do. So I know what it's like to be a listener and all that really matters is are the Knicks winning and if not, can they come back? So if you keep it simple, that gives you a good foundation where you don't have to overthink things and think about the, the big audience or anything like that. So you can keep it pretty chill in those circumstances.

[Alan Hahn]

Knicks radio voice Tyler Murray. That sounds good, doesn't it, man? He's joining us right now on the show. And the Knicks play tonight in game two. That feels like a must win. We know it certainly isn't, but after the way things went in game one, you feel like, got to get back on track. They have to get this win tonight. I keep trying to say that there were good things that happened in game one. Jalen Brunson had a 43 point performance, his eighth 40 point performance of the playoffs, which is the most in franchise history. But because of the way the game ended, we don't look at that. Kramphony Towns, a bit of a breakout game in the playoffs for him, hit four threes. Is there one thing that you saw during the game that you feel like if they just continue to do this, they'll be successful?

[Tyler Murray]

Yeah, they don't have an answer for Brunson, they don't have an answer for Towns. And the only annoying part is did that game show Indiana what they need to change and still give them the 1 oh series lead because they were playing a center on Towns pretty much the whole game. And like he's done all year, he torched them. So I guess you have to hope Rick Carlisle is still willing to to keep Turner and Bryant on Towns because he's averaging like 30 and 10 against the Pacers for the last 10 years or so, apparently. So that's something to consider. The Mitchell Robinson and Deuce McBride lineup, they were on the floor when Brunson got his fifth foul to go on that 140 run. So I think that's something maybe you can lean on a little bit more if things aren't going your way. But this is finally a series where your superstars have the advantages you've hoped they would all year. They had a grind out that series against Boston just because of tough matchups for Brunson and Towns. But there's been easier offensive flow in this series than at any point of the playoffs, Pistons included. So that gives you a lot of hope because I also think on paper the Knicks can have a better defense than Indiana if they're, if they're clicking and communicating as we know they can.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pacers feel like their pace can wear this Knick team down. But is this where the minutes the Knicks play are going to help them and not hinder them the way they would to maybe another team?

[Tyler Murray]

That's really interesting. And I wonder how much of their late game comebacks have to do with their deep rotation. They, if they play Jairus walker, they're an 11 man rotation. They threw Ben Shepard out there for seven minutes only in the fourth quarter just to guard Jalen Brunson. That was an interesting wrinkle, but because of Brunson's foul trouble, the Knicks only wound up having to play three guys over 40 minutes. And because of the overtime, the Pacers had two different players over 40. Nancy Yakim. So so far it's pretty even. But I know what you mean, Don. It almost felt like a mini win even just getting it to overtime for Indiana because they'd be putting more miles on the Knicks. And was talking to Clyde Frazier after the game and he reminded me that only one day off between these games all series long. So that should favor the Pacers in the long run. But I don't know, I still kind of lean on the side of the Knicks have been playing 40 minutes all year. They should be ready to roll and they're not going to leave anything on on the table here with what's at stake in the series.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's like condition for it, right? Like that's the part of it. But it's amazing that Rick Carlisle kind of keeps talking about it. Halliburton mentioned it. Thought he saw Fatigue in the Knicks late in the game, which for me, first of all, two of their starters played 40 or more minutes. Three Knicks starters played 40 or more minutes. Brunson played less minutes than Halliburton did. Like, so I think it's like a little mental warfare kind of thing, because they know it's such a topic here. It's like you just keep kind of feeding that idea that, you know, oh, you're going to be tired. It's almost like, you know, holding up the watch, swinging like a pendulum and saying you're getting sleepy. Like, the more I talk about it, the more you'll start to believe it. But it is always about, like, the fourth court execution. That is what we've seen in the playoffs. I have noticed one thing, though, from game one, from watching it back, and it is that defensively, the starting five was not good to start the game. And when they were on the court together as a unit, they were not great defensively. That has been an issue for them throughout the playoffs. But it feels like Tyler, it's. It's much too late into the playoffs to start making dramatic changes with your lineup. But it doesn't seem like Tom Thibodeau has been going with that starting five for extended minutes. Once they get through the first, you know, the first shift, as they say of the game, it feels like he really scatters the seven or eight players that he plays.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Tyler Murray]

And you're paying more and more attention to Brunson and Towns on switches, kind of getting challenged one on one. And I think it's been, for me, better than expected because they almost never had a chance to defend primary ball handlers one on one because they would. They would drop on everything. But, yeah, this Pacers offense, it's different than the Celtics. Like, let's say Towns switches on to Tatum. You're going to get seven or eight, Tatum dribbles and then a step back a lot of times. If I know that, you can bet Tom Thibodeau is telling Karl Anthony Towns about that. And they're watching tape together. This Pacers offense, the Knicks haven't seen them since February, so maybe it takes a game to figure out, okay, you know what? Halliburton's going to get the ball, and he's either passing or going to take it to the basket. And you have to be ready for those quick decisions, quick movements. And once you adjust to that, hopefully you kind of get the effect of Game 5 against Boston when they started playing faster into Game 6, when the Knicks figured Out everything they needed to with great transition defense. Yeah, you talk about the starting five. I go back to game four against the Celtics. For me, the biggest game or the biggest quarter of the playoffs. Third quarter, Knicks were down 14. It looked like the Celtics were going to tie the game or tie the series, maybe even win the series. And then the Knicks went gangbusters and had maybe their best quarter of the year because the starting five played the entire quarter. But then you think about the fatigue and eventual game ceiling bucket, Andrew Nemhardt on the back cut. You know, maybe there was a little bit of fatigue on the back end there, just giving up that wide open layup in overtime. But I think that's somewhat excusable. Not every game, but you can see maybe they were huffing and puffing at that late stage.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Tyler, man, you're having, you're great to listen to. Have a ball, enjoy it, man. We're looking forward to listening to it and hopefully we get to keep doing this for the next month.

[Tyler Murray]

I'm in, I'm in. As long as the Knicks are taking it and I still got a lot of faith, I think it's going to be a long series and I'll take the Knicks against anybody right now.

[Alan Hahn]

One guy I know is never going to get fatigued, it's Tyler Murray. When you're in a rookie season like this, you never want it to end. I'll see you over there, Ty.

[Tyler Murray]

All right, thanks boys.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, remind everybody, not only he's on the call tonight and of course we have full coverage. It'll be on 10:50am and of course on the ESPNY app with a full hour long pregame show starting at 7, right after we're done. But on MSG Networks, which of course you know is the home team, we have a one hour pregame as well on MSG and a one hour post game tonight. So we're going full one hours before and after bookending the game, which as you know is on tnt. And we're doing it for every playoff game from here on out. So make sure you join us at msg networks at 7:00 tonight. And then immediately following the game, the minute the buzzer sounds, you go right to us, you get all the interviews, statistics, insight, all of it from myself, from Wally, from Bill, Monica as well joins us. And you never know who's going to pop on. We've been with you all season. We're going to finish the season with you as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I didn't know, Ed. I didn't know. Of course I knew Ed Cohen and he did a terrific job before, but I didn't know Tyler at all when he took over for Ed, and I've just been blown away from the get go. And apparently he was a listener to the K show back in the day, so he kind of knew me more than I knew him. And we got to know each other a little bit. He'd come to some Ranger games because he wanted to be a part of it all, man. And I know that because of his, his travel, because of his first year here and a new child and all that, that he's kind of been going back and forth through his home in New Hampshire that he sometimes just swing by a Ranger game, just get to know everybody. And I have a feeling he's going to be a part of this thing for a long, long time. Man. He's young and he's this good. He's not going anywhere unless he chooses to.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's. He reminds me, you know, when Brendan Burke stepped in with the Islanders his first year and you just heard him like do a couple games, you're like, oh, yeah, he's good. Like, you just knew, right? Like, he's really good. And you knew it wouldn't take long. He'll be doing some national games as well. And like, you hear Tyler and you just, you hear how good he is and you're like, yeah, it's not gonna be long. Like, he's really good, but he'll keep that job the rest of his life because this is his dream job.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it goes by. You don't, you don't realize how money that was. That in his call, he had that as a two. Yeah, like that is his. That is so huge because it's so easy. Kevin Harlan is as good as it gets on television too, man. He had it as a three. I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking that that's a three. He backed up to take the three, you know, and everybody's looking at the ball, but for him to know, hey, the officials right behind him, it's a great indicator whenever it's close to being a three or a two. And I learned that from the few play by play games I did last year is, you know, what does the official say? Clear as day. He's holding up two fingers. But it's so, it's so easy to get caught up in the moment of watching the ball and the flight of the ball and not seeing all the other indicators that can really help you in that call. And I'm telling you, as somebody that has done this, and Alan, you've been a part of it, too. That, that. That's as good as it gets, man. To be able to spot that at that age, that young, that's an experience call, man.

[Alan Hahn]

To train yourself to look, check with the referee and not assume anything. Now Harlan's on the court. Might have been harder for him to see it and maybe even to see Zarba, but it's. It's. Yeah. For. For Tyler to, To train himself to make sure you look at the ref. Is the hand up or is it two hand, two fingers forward? And that's when you know what the shot is going to be in a. In a big moment like that instead of just watching the ball. Yeah, no, brilliant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, and it's usually an analyst's job, right. Like is. Greg Buttle told me that a long time ago is like, the problem fans have is they follow the ball. When you follow the ball, you're missing like every key moment of the game. But as a fan, you're going to follow the ball.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the puck. Same thing the puck.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like Dave would tell me, too. Like I say to Dave during a break, like, how'd you catch that? He said, because you're calling that, you're calling the game. You got to follow the puck. I'm watching everything around. So I saw that trip away from the player. I saw how. How that opened up. Yeah. Yeah. You ever hear during an opponent's goal when they're playing the highlights of a Ranger game and you hear Dave go, oh. Dave always goes, oh. Like five seconds before anything happened, you all of a sudden, Peter, you all of a sudden go, Dave go, oh. And then you'll hear my call like, is it two on one? I picked it up from the two on one.

[Anthony]

His.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, oh, there's going to be a two on one. Like, that's how. And for, you know, a kid, I'm just guessing how old. I don't even think he's in 32. 32. Barely in his 30s. And the reason I bring up Harlan is not to criticize, just saying, listen, you could be doing this forever.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And not pick that little indicator up. So I'm glad we were able to get him on, kind of get a flavor for, you know, what's happening tonight. And also tells you the work. The guy, he's walking into the garden and we're four hours from tip.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe we're getting a little inside window on why he's as good as he is, guys.

[Alan Hahn]

He's fired up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. That's awesome, man. He's, he's, he's pretty special. I want to get him on a little bit more often as this run continues. 1-800-919-3776. Let's go back to the busy phones and talk to Mark in Harlem here on Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[Caller]

How you doing, guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's up, baby?

[Caller]

All right. I have a question for Allen. Alex, make me understand Thibodeau always go with the guys that get him the lead that he says playing good at the time. I don't understand why you put Brunson back in the game, but you made me understand that.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, Jalen Brunson's a three time all in. He's a three time all NBA player. He's your best clutch player. He in fact was the clutch player of the year. And it was in clutch time that you don't leave the franchise player on the bench. It's just what you do. You put him in the game. Like Mark, that's. He's the best player on the team. You don't leave him on the bench. You put him in the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But as we talked about yesterday, Mark, you're not wrong for thinking that.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I get the defense part. I get the defense part. I totally understand what you're saying, but it's still. He's the best player on the team and he's the clutch player of the year in the NBA. Which means. Right, Mark, you know what it means when you're the clutch player of the year? It means you're the best player in the last five minutes of the game. So he went in the last five minutes of the game to close the game. That's what he does. It's his job. Like so, you know, like it's easy. The hindsight thing I get, and I totally understand it because that group had played well and you think, let them just finish the game. But it's easy to say, I'm looking down the bench and there's the franchise player putting him in the game. I'm finishing the game with my best player on the floor because he has 40 points and he deserves it. Right? Like, so that's all you're thinking. It's, it's not like, it's not like you put in Alfred Peyton. Like you put, you know what I mean? Like you put, you put in one of the best players in the sport. So I don't think it's that outrageous.

[Caller]

Takes out Brunson and chat once in a while on his four defense because they are liability.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he, he does that in matchups late, like in the last possession type situations. He'll put his best defensive five out there for a possession. But when you are going, when there's no stoppages and you're just going up and down, like with three minutes to go, you're putting your best player on the floor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what you do. You know, you gotta make it easy.

[Alan Hahn]

But Again, Mark, the 14 point lead in the NBA isn't really a big lead.

[Caller]

I know you're right.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Like so. But I'm just saying like Mark, could you really in good conscience leave your best player, maybe one of the best players in the history of your franchise on the bench and feel good about it?

[Caller]

Maybe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mark, you just brought up. I think the reason it's more of a conversation is because he's got 5,000 further compromises him defensively. Yeah, and, but, but Allen's, I guess, you know, part of having a good defense is a good offense. You want to score too.

[Alan Hahn]

You got to get the good possessions and he guarantees you good. But no, again, I've heard brought up and it's, there's no right answer. So when you ask why. I tell you why. Like I'm not saying you're wrong for asking. I'm just saying this is why. Like it's, there's. This is the exact reason why. And so the I. But, but to ask it is fair, especially in hindsight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think the conclusion we came to yesterday when this came up is, is that I don't think anybody's wrong to bring it up and I don't think it's wrong to defend it there. It's not a no brainer. Like how did he not. Why did he bring him back? No, no, no. And to say of course you got to bring him back, I don't think that's right either. I think it's very, it's a very fair conversation to have. 1-800-919-3776. Guys, it's Friday. You know what that means? Fraud alert. Friday.

[Anthony]

Finally. All week I've been waiting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It has been dubbed by like if this was a movie on the movie poster, it would say the best segment of the week. Peter Rosenberg.

[Anthony]

That's right. It would say, come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It would say best segment of the week, dot, dot, dot, cap. And then it would say Peter Roseberg because he loves this.

[Alan Hahn]

I like, I have one. I have one, I have one.

[Anthony]

Oh, you have one. You want to bring it to the table.

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[Don La Greca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Anthony]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don La Greca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

[Don La Greca]

Is your friend a fraud?

[Anthony]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Don La Greca]

Are you a fraud?

[Anthony]

What is fraud?

[Don La Greca]

Let's ask Tom McGregor.

[Anthony]

Screw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go scratch yourself.

[Anthony]

All right guys, welcome to Fraud Alert Friday. You wait for it, you dream about it. And now here we are. It's Friday. It's 4:31. It's the day of a monster Knicks Pacers game two. It's Donhand and Rosenberg and we are here with your Fraud Alert Friday emails and calls. 1-800-919-3776. You can email dhrespnmail.com and the first one comes from J O R G E. Are we going George or Jorge?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would say Jorge.

[Anthony]

Anthony, where do you land?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it feels like Jorge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I say Jorge. I guess you're because you know why? If it because otherwise you spell it.

[Anthony]

With a G. Because if it was George, why play these reindeer games?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Anthony]

By the way, I think Don is just saying I say Jorge could be a drop. How about that doesn't make sense, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It could be fun.

[Anthony]

Is his name. That's a great question. All right, what's up guys? My 8 year old daughter Genesis is a huge fan of Fraud Alert Friday. She's becoming a great baseball player and just made her second consecutive Little League all star team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about that?

[Anthony]

She loves the segment and we listen to it every Saturday afternoon on our way home from her little league games.

[Alan Hahn]

Nice.

[Anthony]

She always gets a chuckle at Marco's what is fuan? So when she asked if I could write in for a segment, I couldn't say no. Especially since over the last few weeks I've had some inner turmoil with what feels like fraudulism. Growing up in Connecticut, I grew up a huge fan of both the Yankees and Giants. But oddly enough, early in childhood I loved the Celtics at a time when they weren't the greatest in the late 90s and early 2000s. But when the draft class of 2003 with LeBron, Wade and Melo enter the league, I essentially gave up my Celtics fandom at 10 but didn't really claim a team and gained more interest in the great players of the league overall and didn't call myself of any fan of a team after that point. Before the 201617 season when Durant decided to join the Warriors, I swore off the NBA altogether and genuinely had zero interest in the league ever since then. That is until recently. Being a regular listener of TMKS over the last few years and now DHR over the last few months, the Knicks run thus far in the playoffs has piqued my interest and for the first time in years, I've watched a few Knicks games and find myself rooting for them. Now being 32 years old and rooting for the Knicks when I was a big time Celtics fan at 10 years old, I myself feel like a fraud. Don, am I a fraud? Sincerely, Jorge or George in Connecticut.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now it hurts me to say, but by the letter of the law the answer is yes. But you know, recovering fraud maybe can get up from fraud, mild fraud, however you want to put it. I said you got to declare at 8 he was a die hard Celtic fan at 10. So that's two years into my self proclaimed age. Now he took a very interesting journey. I guess the right thing to do if he fell back in love with the NBA would be to go back to the Celtics, but. But that's not why he didn't fall in love with the NBA, fell in love with the Knicks. So it does seem genuine. So by the letter of the law, technically he is a fraud. But I have a lot of trouble calling him a fraud. This was, you know, 22 years ago. He was done with the NBA and the Knicks brought him back. So what is he supposed to deny himself a chance to follow a team because of a decision he made 22 years ago at the age of 10 or even before the age of 10? That's when he kind of stopped following the team at 10 years old, you know what? By the letter of the law. But I don't want to go there. I'm gonna allow it.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm with you.

[Anthony]

So you're playing the alarm. It's technically fraudulent. But you're good with it is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I think there has to be some wiggle room, right? So what's the right answer, Peter? Deny yourself.

[Anthony]

Don't ask me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get back into the NBA. I mean this seemed, this falling over the Knicks seemed genuine, right?

[Anthony]

Don't ask me. Hey dude, don't ask me. I rooted for the Knicks, the Celtics last week. So, you know, I'm probably not the best person to ask.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, not you. I'm With Don, though. I. I think this one, you know what it is, it's fraudulent behavior, but we're going to let him go. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's got to be nuance, right, guys? Come on.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I think that's what you.

[Anthony]

That's some. Some. It's just got to happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Anthony]

All right, let's keep going. We got a lot today. By the way, I'm going to do my best to get through these because we have some wonderful, wonderful emails. Here we go. Don, Peter Allen, Anthony Jacob, Loyal listener who logs in three plus hours a day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Love it.

[Alan Hahn]

Love it.

[Anthony]

The show is. That's. That's. That's a P1 to you and me. Show is top of the food chain. Thank you for the entertainment. I need Don's ruling on something that's been plaguing me for over 330 years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whoa.

[Anthony]

With the Knick so relevant at the moment and the advent of this segment, the time to potentially clear my conscience is now. I've been a New Jersey born and bred Cleveland Cavaliers fan since 1977.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Anthony]

Yes. Yes.

[Don La Greca]

How?

[Anthony]

From Austin Carr to World Be Free to Ilgauskis to LeBron to Mitchell, I have been a fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was that Richfield Coliseum?

[Alan Hahn]

He went from World be free to LeBron. What happened to Mark Price and Brad Dougherty?

[Anthony]

Yeah, well, he just. He hit Elgauskis.

[Alan Hahn]

He did say Elgauskis, which was like in the 2000s.

[Anthony]

He skipped.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He missed the 90s. The Jordan shot wiped his memory clean.

[Alan Hahn]

He doesn't want to claim the 90s when they were winning 50 games a year. Yeah, I'm skeptical.

[Anthony]

Go to this client, Gerald Wilkins. I mean, what's going on here? All right, here's my situation. Oh. During the 90s, I lost touch with basketball.

[Alan Hahn]

There it is.

[Anthony]

I was focused on football and living out my 20s as an active musician. Back then, there was no way to watch the Cavs on a regular basis. So in early 94, I started watching the Knicks and I started falling for Ewing, Starks, Mason, Oakley. So as the Knicks were working their way through the playoffs, I proclaimed to my friends, I am no longer a Cavs fan. I am now a Knicks fan. So I ended the 94 season as a Knicks fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Anthony]

By the time 94, 95 rolled around, I came back to my senses and went back to being a Cavs fan, even with a 43 win season and have never looked back, no matter how high the highs or low the lows. So I asked Don, will this momentary lapse of reason categorize me As a fraud. For the record, I have eaten hot dogs all the way at Clixies, drank nips at Gypsy Pond, and my word, when someone throws a ball fast is indeed whip truth. Stay golden, boys.

[Alan Hahn]

He's trying to. Now I know he's trying to sway the judge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I will not be swayed. I appreciate his listenership and all of the vernacular he throughout that I've said over the years, no, sorry, fraud Jeffrey Dahmer ate just one person. It still happened, right? Like, I'm sorry. You don't get that opportunity. You sit there. I'm a die hard Cavalier fan. Boy, have I lived and died with this team except during the 9495 season when I jumped on the Nick bandwagon for a year and then came back to the Cavaliers. Hey, I'm not going to deny that you're a big Cavaliers fan and I'm sure you do live and die with the team, but what you did was very fraudulent and will not ever be forgiven and will never be able to go away.

[Anthony]

Never forgiven, you say?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never. But it happened, Peter. And he was a grown ass man when it happened. You know, we're talking about the other guy, like making decisions at 10. This guy was a fan since like 1970 and 24 years into his fandom of the Cavaliers, for no good reason, just decides to hop on the nick bandwagon. Oh, one for 19 later. And you all got to go back to the Cavs. No, no, no, no. So listen, I'm glad that you love the show. I'm glad that you remember the, you know, Gypsy Pond and I say he whips the ball and all that stuff. Great listener, great guy, tremendous father. Fraud.

[Anthony]

You'd still be friends with him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, and I do welcome his listenership again. I saw my best friends are frauds. But I'm sorry that year happened. It did not happen. And what if a couple of those Starks shots go down and they win the championship?

[Anthony]

Does he ever go back?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Does he go back to the Cavs or all of a sudden now, let me see how, let me see if the Knicks can follow it up here and in one year becomes, you know, a whole generation. So no, it happened. I'm sorry it happened.

[Anthony]

All right, here we go. Sean says fraud Master Sex A Don. Hope Peter appreciates the reference I did to wrestling thing. I'm a born and raised New Yorker who inherited a love of the Yankees, Giants and Rangers from watching games every night with my dad. NBA was never something he had much interest in, but my mom went to Providence, so big East, March Madness, etc. Was my main attachment to basketball. By age 10, I decided to pick an NBA team and rather than root for the Knicks like every other kid, I decided to follow my favorite player to Seattle. I loved Kevin Durant in Texas, so I opted to choose whatever team he was drafted to and haven't looked back once they landed in Oklahoma City. Durant's move to Golden State fractured my fanship of his, but galvanized my love for the team when I realized how hurt I was by the betrayal. I've remained on board throughout the Westbrook experience and slow return to relevance. So, on the brink of a potential OKC NYK Finals, I have to ask the question, am I a fraud for choosing to support a non local team?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No fraud. He did not have an NBA team. It happened organically where he's like, I love Kevin Durant, whoever drafts him. And he stuck with that. Stuck the move from Seattle, Oklahoma City, a lot of ups and downs during that period of time. Even stick stuck with the team after Durant left. I was waiting while you were saying that. Oh, then I started rooting for Brooklyn. Started rooting Golden State. No, no, no. That was got. That was his introduction to Seattle. He followed through with the move, continued with the team even after Durant left. Did not declare a team, declared an NHL, mlb, an NFL team, not an NBA team. And when he did declare, he stuck with it. No fraud.

[Anthony]

All right, my last email for the day. I'm going to keep every single one Knicks themed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love it.

[Anthony]

Sean writes us. Hey fellas. I grew up in Albany in the 90s and have been a solid Yankees and Giants fan from an early age. You seem to find everybody was able to find the Yankees and the Giants, huh?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, right.

[Anthony]

I never latched on to the Knicks, mostly because my father didn't watch watch a lot of basketball. By the way. You know why that is? Everyone keeps saying that. You know my father didn't watch a lot because your fathers were frauds and the Knicks weren't winning. When I was nine, the Bulls won their first championship and Jordan fever took a hold of me. For the next seven years after he retired, I didn't really follow basketball other than following the playoffs and the finals. In 2005, I moved to Pittsburgh. Great city. I appreciate the love it got on the show. Peter, you need to go to a game at PNC Park. And I started to download podcasts of TMKS to keep up with the Yankees and Giants. Through listening to the show, I started to follow the Knicks more closely and started to actively root for them in the Carmelo Amari Linsanity years. But never publicly say I was a fan because I was a Bulls fan in the 90s and I was very aware of the pain Knicks fans went through at the hands of the Bulls. Over the past five years, I found myself more engaged with the Knicks and having moved to a college town and State College, Pennsylvania, coming into contact with a variety of fan bases. I now refer to myself as a Knicks fan and engage in trash talk with fans of the other teams. I still have this nagging feeling that I am a fraud because my 8 year old self succumbed to Nike's market. Or as Don would say, Circumflex to Nike's marketing machine. Am I a fraud? Additionally, if I'm not a fraud, are there dispensations for children who fall under the spell of generational talents? Jordan, LeBron, Griffey, Gretzky, Montana. But return to their geographical teams in adulthood? Love the show. Thanks for all that you do, Sean. In State College, Pennsylvania.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sorry, Fraud. Matter of fact, play it, play it again. It's almost textbook fraud. Fraudulence. So no, there's no getting up again. Very nice. Trying to explain himself and you know, go root for the Knicks. Go, go, go. And the trash talk bothered me. Like, he knows that that nagging feeling is I'm a fraud. And then he's got the nerve to trash talk too. No, no, fraud.

[Anthony]

See, that's why you have to. You guys should pay attention. Watch the lessons I'm giving you in fraudulence. Right. I'm rooting for the Knicks. Won't use the word fan. Still refer to it as they. And you, you gotta, like, if you've been loyal elsewhere, you gotta mind yourself, mind your p's and Q's. Now the difference is, unlike me, he doesn't root for a team week to week. This has been several years, so I get it. But it is hard to have memories of cheering on Jordan beating the Knicks and now try to trash talk to someone else on behalf of the Knicks. That is tough. And that will do it for Fraud Friday. On this Friday, May 23rd. Alan, I know you have one, so maybe later you can throw yours at him.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know. I don't. I don't really. No, no, I honestly, I don't. I had something else in mind, but it's not really fitting in. Fraud Friday. So no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What if we come back and do it?

[Alan Hahn]

It was, it was. It's not related really to fraudulism. When it comes to fanhood and stuff like that. It was just something I saw today that I just wanted to call out. But it's not a fraud thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, you know, we can do that when we come back.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's not sports related either. It's just something that I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is more about Guy. Like, you explained it perfectly. Like, so if he's hanging around with a bunch of Knick fans and they start talking about how Jordan broke their.

[Alan Hahn]

Heart, what does he say?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is he going to say? Oh, no, no, I was rooting for Jordan. Then goodbye. They get thrown out of the barbecue wherever you are. Yeah, you know, Memorial Day? No, though.

[Alan Hahn]

Did he. Did he ever out his out himself to his friends or do they not even know?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They probably don't know. Well, now they know. Hopefully they're listening. All right, Alan's got something that I don't know if it's going to, but it does intrigue me right now.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't, don't, don't. Don't tease it. It's not that I'm gonna.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I already.

[Anthony]

This has really gotten weird.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know.

[Anthony]

Let's just go to a break. For God's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Didn't he seem, like hyped to bring these? I got one. He said I got one.

[Anthony]

Listen, haven't you learned over the last couple days, Don, he is weird. That's. You gotta start accepting he is weird.

[Alan Hahn]

I never saw him.

[Anthony]

No, he doesn't. He just looks like. You think he's Joe Blow.

[Caller]

Normal New York City radio.

[Anthony]

Do better. But at the same time, don't let this looks fool you. He's a weirdo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it is. He's underrated weird. There's no question about it.

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[Don La Greca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Anthony]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don La Greca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tune in tonight at 7pm for the next free game show brought to you by Infinity Experience the Infinity lineup at your local retailer today. And of course that could be heard on 1050. Coverage will begin at 7 o' clock. Just give you the lay of the land. We're here on 880 until 6 30. Then we'll pass it over to our Mets coverage. Mets and the Dodgers over at Citi Field. Then we'll be on 1050 from 6:30 to 7 leading you had O' Keefe for the pre game of Nixon Pacers. Jake April, son of Max April Dr. Max April 29th birthday today. So happy Birthday.

[Anthony]

Oh hey there. Happy birthday kid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Big Islander fan. I might have GM so good for them. But right now everybody is just waiting at the edge of their seats to find out what Alan Hahn had for fraud alert Friday.

[Alan Hahn]

No it's not. It's. It's again it's. It wasn't fraudulent behavior. It was more of just behavior that I just felt I needed to call out.

[Anthony]

Okay, cool.

[Alan Hahn]

Remember Peter, Monica McNutt gave a commencement speech at the School of Journalism at Maryland, correct?

[Anthony]

Oh yeah, she sure did.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Do you know who gave the commencement speech to the entire university?

[Anthony]

Oh I sure do.

[Alan Hahn]

Kermit the Frog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think that's cool.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, now Jim Henson is a Maryland grad. So the late Jim Henson get the connection.

[Anthony]

It's a pretty good one to have.

[Alan Hahn]

But this college students gonna sit there and you have a guy like like this. Really? But Peter Rosenberg, you're not even invited on campus, Pete.

[Anthony]

No, I'm not even welcome. They didn't even.

[Alan Hahn]

Would you like to come and be part of the ceremonies? You know, you could. You could. We'll give you a robe and, you know, all the different sashes they have you wear for all the many degrees that you have. Something, anything. No, they didn't even invite you. But a puppet at the podium for graduation. That's what they're going to do. They ran out of things to do. They didn't have any clue. What are we going to do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what this is.

[Alan Hahn]

Who's going to do the commencement speech? You know what? Let's go back to the Jim Henson well one more time. Let's have Kermit do it. And if you're a graduate that year, by the way, were you not sitting there going like, this is. This is my inspirational speech.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, this is what I'm going to sit. I'm going to remember this rest of my life. What was that. What was the really inspiring thing that was said? It ain't easy being green. That's what. That's what he told me.

[Anthony]

I just put up a tweet. I just put up a tweet.

[Alan Hahn]

Alan, I'm having a hard time with this for you.

[Anthony]

No, listen, just because of what you said, I put up a tweet. I think you guys will think it's appropriate. It strikes the right tone. It's fair. It's just. And it's what needed to be said. Tell me what you think.

[Alan Hahn]

I need to see it.

[Anthony]

You'll see it. Just open up your. Your handy Elon Musk app. It'll be right there for you. The Musk machine.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what? Also, it's the. For you and all that. Oh, here it is.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

How many times you getting.

[Anthony]

We gotta see. See who I addressed.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't say hey, at you of Maryland.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

How many times you getting Kermit to speak before you holler at your boy? And then the picture is, of course, the. The. The gif he used. By the way, Don, is Kermit sipping tea, which. Well done. Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You see?

[Anthony]

You see, it plays twice.

[Alan Hahn]

I like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does have that feel of.

[Alan Hahn]

We don't know anybody. We don't know anyone else inspirational. Who has had success leaving our college to talk to these graduates. So let's do it. Let's just go with a puppet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does have that on the marquee puppet show. Spinal Tap moment to it. Right. I told them to put Spinal Tap first, but it is Kermit the Frog. It is cool and To a generation of people. He's. Listen, if Jim, what generation?

[Alan Hahn]

This generation. This generation?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I was saying their generation. But I mean, 20, 22 year olds.

[Alan Hahn]

All are like, oh, yeah.

[Anthony]

I mean, I don't think Kermit's ever lost it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you know, I'm not saying he.

[Anthony]

Lost it, but he's still big out here.

[Alan Hahn]

That big.

[Anthony]

I mean, listen, I think Kermit is pretty forever. Now, listen, in all fairness, I didn't even go to the main commencement. It's. It's at this football stadium. It's stupid. I didn't even go. But I went to my journalism school, the one that Monica is speaking at. And by the way, you guys know how I feel about Monica. She's going to be a legendary talent. She's amazing. Can I just say something, though? Monica's like 10. She's like 10 years younger than me, I think. And listen, she's better than me. I get it. She's moving faster, as she should, but she's been on the scene years shorter than me. And here's the really sad part for me, me. She went there for grad school.

[Alan Hahn]

She's a Georgetown girl, not even a four year type.

[Anthony]

So she went to grad school. And she's been tremendous. But, like, I couldn't have gotten a call at any point, says, no time.

[Alan Hahn]

No. You know, honestly, like his quote, by the way, is the truth is, dreams are how we figure out where we want to go, and life is how we get there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. See?

[Alan Hahn]

It's heavier.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what, Alan? You made Peter feel uncomfortable. I'm surprised you even brought it up.

[Anthony]

Kermit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1-800-919-3776 is the number to call.

[Alan Hahn]

Peter needs some help.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nick's baby. Game two. Let's talk about it right here on 880, ESPN New York and the ESPN New York app.

[Anthony]

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[Don La Greca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good.

[Don La Greca]

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