Hour 2: Worst Caller & Let's Talk About It

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 2: Worst Caller & Let's Talk About It

Date: February 24, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Main Theme:
This episode centers on the aftermath of the dramatic USA men's hockey "golden goal" at the Olympics, the role of legendary broadcaster Kenny Albert, the often fraught dynamic of fans and broadcasters, and a particularly infamous caller. The hosts blend sharp sports analysis, candid broadcaster insight, playful banter, and some pointed social commentary — all in the unique style that defines “Don, Hahn & Rosenberg.”

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Olympic Hockey’s Big Moment and Kenny Albert’s Call

Key Segment (00:55 – 11:40)

• The show opens still riding the emotional high of USA's Olympic hockey “golden goal,” called by Kenny Albert.
• The hosts heap praise on Kenny Albert’s performance as a play-by-play broadcaster, celebrating his passion, preparation, and career-long grind.
• Anecdotes emphasize Kenny's work ethic and “no nepotism” path, despite being the son of Marv Albert.
  • Notable Quote [05:26, Don]:
    “He worked his tail off…Nothing has ever been handed to Kenny. He has earned everything...”
• Discussion of the importance of Olympic participation for NHL players—how players “empty the tank” and the intrinsic value of representing their country.
• The hosts defend the necessity of players taking extra rest after the Olympics, urging fans not to expect instant returns.
  • Notable Quote [08:19, Alan]:
    “How any of these guys would be expected to be in uniform right away makes no sense. Give him a day, give him two days…”
• They analyze the awkwardness for the NHL of stopping its season but argue the Olympic experience benefits league exposure and player relations.
  • Notable Quote [11:43, Peter]:
    “You want a good relationship. I think the NHL was willing to make the sacrifice … to have these guys go and play.”

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The “Worst Caller”: Lang Debates Kenny Albert’s Timing

Key Segment (13:45 – 19:41)

• LANG from Connecticut calls in with a critique: He claims Kenny Albert took 1.75 to 1.85 seconds to call the winning goal, “ruining the moment” for him.
  • Lang [13:45]:
    “I’m having a hard time reconciling one thing … I’m seeing a 1.75 to 1.85 second delay on Kenny announcing it was a goal. … It kind of ruined the moment for me.”
• The hosts respond vigorously:
  • Alan and Don break down the broadcasting challenges in real time (visibility, checking with officials, etc.).
  • Don points out that accuracy must come before immediacy:
    • Don [16:10]:
      “The one thing you don’t want to ever do is get it wrong... The one thing you look for is when did the light go on ... If I don’t see the light go on, I’m not going to say it’s a goal unless I saw it go in.”
  • Alan and Don call out the “worst caller” of the day—with mock awards:
    • Don [15:52]:
      “Lang, worst caller. Put it up on the board.”
  • They consider the technical realities—slow trickling puck, unclear visual indicators, and even television directing choices that hampered viewer clarity, not just the broadcaster’s.

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Banter: “Let’s Talk About It” and Play-By-Play Nerd Arguments

Key Segment (21:04 – 27:18)

• The trio rehashes famous worst-caller moments with playful self-deprecation and drop-ins.
• They lampoon Lang’s stopwatch analysis and the tendency for some fans to “try too hard” to criticize:
  • Don [24:51]:
    “To have the less than two seconds to go out and get a stopwatch sounds like you’re trying too hard, bro, to hate it.”
  • Peter [24:37]:
    “…once you’re pulling out the stopwatch, don’t you think, what am I doing?”
• The group muses on the performative, attention-seeking negativity found in sports fandom and social media.
  • Alan remarks that people often attempt to “hijack the moment” to make it about themselves, rather than simply enjoy a shared cultural event.
  • Alan [28:17]:
    “When there’s a great moment, something special, something enjoyable … these are the narcissists out there. How can I make this about me?... Just be careful of people hijacking moments for their own agenda…”

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Social Commentary: Enjoyment vs. Agendas in Big Moments

Key Segment (27:18 – 31:10)

• Alan gives an impassioned speech on social media toxicity, especially those who twist happy, shared moments for self-promotion or controversy.
• He’s particularly frustrated with efforts to manufacture or amplify drama between men’s and women’s Olympic teams, relaying Jack Hughes’ rebuttal and harmonious behind-the-scenes reality.
  • Alan [28:20]:
    “People are so negative about things. … We were always around them. They were around us. We supported each other. That’s what it’s about.”
• The trio warns listeners not to let others ruin their enjoyment or manipulate their focus.

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Shift to Everyday Life: Snow Woes & Relatable Pro Tips

Key Segment (31:10 – 35:56)

• The crew shifts from hockey to friendly, relatable banter on dealing with New York snowstorms, snow blowers, shoveling, and street-parking legalities.
  • Alan offers a practical “pro tip”: spray WD-40 on your shovel to keep wet snow from sticking.
  • Discussion includes plow strategies, car battery worries, and general winter survival, with Peter and Don trading jokes about parking, dead batteries, and basic car-care.
  • Alan [32:21]:
    “WD-40 on your shovel and wet snow like yesterday. Doesn’t stick to it.”

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Follow-Up: More on Broadcast Delays, TV Direction, and Play-by-Play

Key Segment (37:41 – 41:59)

• Fred from Upstate NY calls to clarify that the confusion and suspense were largely due to TV camera choices, not Kenny’s call.
  • He suggests fans are “spoiled” by instant reactions but, this time, suspense built genuine drama.
  • Don and Alan reinforce that the technical aspects of hockey goals can create organic broadcast delays: sometimes even players and officials don’t realize a goal has been scored.
  • Example: Patrick Kane’s 2010 Stanley Cup winner—nobody realized it was a goal until his unique celebration.
    • Don [41:39]:
      “So he starts driving. Everybody’s just standing there… I was like, what is he doing?”
• The segment affirms the unpredictability and nuance of live sports calls—and the high bar for perfection.

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Closing: Ratings, Last Laughs & Listener Callbacks

Key Segment (42:05 – 45:42)

• The show reveals the TV rating for the gold medal game: 26 million, an outstanding figure especially for a pre-9am weekend broadcast.
• Final callers poke fun at Lang’s infamous “1.75 seconds” complaint, reinforcing the show’s tongue-in-cheek spirit.
  • Mike from Hawthorne [44:38]: “That guy Lang stands up and goes, that call was 1.75 too late… that guy would have got thrown out of that bar on his head...”
• The episode closes on a high note, reminding listeners to keep perspective and simply enjoy the best moments in sports—and life.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Don [05:26]: “Nothing has ever been handed to Kenny. He has earned everything and every accolade that he gets off of this is so, so well deserved.”
• Alan [08:19]: “How any of these guys would be expected to be in uniform right away makes no sense. Give him a day, Give him two days, whatever it is…”
• Don [15:52]: “Lang, worst caller. Put it up on the board.”
• Don [16:10]: “The one thing you don’t want to ever do is get it wrong…If I don’t see the light go on, I’m not going to say it’s a goal unless I saw it go in.”
• Alan [28:17]: “When there’s a great moment, something special, something enjoyable ... these are the narcissists out there ... Let me hijack it and make it about me again.”
• Alan [32:21]: “WD-40 on your shovel and wet snow like yesterday. Doesn’t stick to it.”
• Mike, caller [44:38]: “That guy would have got thrown out of that bar on his head.”

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Timestamps of Import

• 00:55 – 11:40: Discussion on Olympic hockey, Kenny Albert, and Olympics/NHL synergy
• 13:45 – 19:41: LANG’s call, hosts’ response and the “worst caller” segment
• 21:04 – 27:18: Play-by-play and fan criticism discourse, social commentary on criticism
• 27:18 – 31:10: Alan’s social media “agenda hijacking” monologue
• 31:10 – 35:56: Snowstorm life hacks and banter
• 37:41 – 41:59: More listener calls on broadcasting, suspense, and memory
• 42:05 – 45:42: Nielsen ratings, closing calls, and laughs

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, playful, and ribbing—especially when dealing with “worst callers”
• Earnest sports analysis seamlessly blends with pop-culture banter
• Candid and passionate when advocating for the importance of enjoying sports and calling out social media toxicity

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This episode offers a masterclass in live sports radio—balancing deep insider analysis, broadcaster wisdom, relatable New York living, and the shared joy (and frustration) of being a sports fan. Even if you missed the broadcast, you’ll feel the energy and camaraderie that bring big sports moments to life.

Transcript

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[A]

Yep.

[B]

And the passion that he has for it and he's just flawless at what he does. And we were talking about this during the meeting and I'll add Kenny to it. You know, Kenny's still a very young man. He's not even 60 yet. He's just a couple of weeks older than me. His birthday is Michael's birthday.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Groundhogs Day, 2-2-2. So he was born 2-2.68. I was born 2-13-68. And so he's not even 60. So he's got a lot of big games, a lot of big calls left in. I mean he's. And he's had a ton. None will be bigger than that. That'll be the biggest call he ever has. And that'll be the biggest goal Jack ever scores. And maybe the Devil fans would be different if he ever scored a game winning goal in A Stanley cup for. For that segment of fans they'll look at as being bigger. But for Jack, for the world of hockey, for sports, it'll never get any bigger than that. It's a golden goal in the Olympics, as big as Doc's career. The golden goal for Crosby is probably his biggest. But here's the difference. That was for Canada. This is for the US and even what the US did in 1980, it wasn't in overtime. And I still haven't seen the rating yet. I don't know if anybody else has seen have not what it ended up doing, but just get it before the

[A]

end of the show, I think. Right. Usually it's late afternoon.

[B]

Yeah, I think so. And we'll probably get something because again, trying to be 27 million from 2010 in Vancouver. And we'll see if the early morning, you know, hurt or help it.

[A]

No way.

[C]

Hurt it.

[A]

No way that.

[B]

Well, it only hurt it because it's 5am on the west coast.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Yeah, you might have lost some casuals just because of the time of day, but how could it get any bigger than that?

[A]

Yeah, here's the thing though. Like that that's something that if you're a Devils fan, that's not easy to accept, but it's a reality. There'll be nothing that he does. Like, here's the reason why if you're a franchise like. Like the Devils have recency, relative recency when it comes to a championship. So if they didn't have a Stanley cup, then you could argue that if he had like, you know, the Bob nystrom goal in 1980. Right.

[B]

Like, right.

[A]

Then you could argue that maybe it's a. It's a. As big or bigger because it's a Stanley cup, it's the first one for the French, all that stuff. But I just don't know how you could possibly say there's something going to be bigger than that. And the same thing for Kenny. That's why I asked him, like, you know, you and I don. Know what he. As a kid, he was. This was his dream to call hockey. When I said that, it wasn't a joke. Kenny used to sit in his room now, remember his father's Marv Albert. Like he had in his house one of the great voices in sports.

[D]

I mean, as big as it gets.

[A]

And Kenny was someone who dreamed of being that and would practice in his room. And when Kenny talks about thinking of moments throughout his career, he's talking about calling games for the Baltimore Skipjacks because rather than. Rather than like have this notion of, well, you know, you went to NYU and you know, your dad is Marv Albert, so you should just get a job right away. Kenny actually did grind and do a lot of things where you're, you're doing minor league hockey. Not only are you the play by play guy, you also have to pick up the new guy we just traded for at the airport and drive him to, to his new apartment that we have and make sure he's set up like this. There's a lot of Kenny's story that people don't realize.

[B]

Roommates were Barry Trots because Trots was an assistant coach on the Skip Jackets. And so on the road, Skip Jack. So yeah, on the road he would be rooming one of the assistant coaches was Barry Trots.

[A]

Right. Anyone earned this, right, Don. Because of how much he had to. He did grind his way rather than just step right into it, like maybe a lot of people assume about him.

[B]

I gotta tell you that he's on an ounce of nepotism. He worked his tail off. Yep. And I remember being at sportsphone and we would get the satellite dish, the big satellite dish, and we would find like a Skipjacks game and like, oh, there's, there's Kenny there, there's Kenny Albert. That's Marv Albert's son, you know, and he, you know, and his and his two uncles made it big. Albert and Steve Albert.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you think so if you didn't know anything, you'd be like, well, of course Kenny is calling the Olympics because look at his family. He earned it coming up from the minor leagues and working his way up and, and, and really just grinding it out and respect. Still grinding it out and still making sure that he does the work. So nothing has ever been handed to Kenny. He has earned everything and every accolade that he gets off of this is so, so well deserved. I've never met anybody that's more focused and more prepared to do his job. And I don't care if it's a, if it's a preseason game or it's, you know, the gold medal game in the Olympics. He puts in the same work and the time and couldn't be a nicer guy either. So I could not be happier for him.

[A]

Completely agree.

[B]

Couldn't be happier for Jack and what, what, what he's going through right now. And it'll be interesting to see guys, because I'm just bracing for. We don't know what the availability is going to be for a lot of these American players coming Back you heard there were a couple of double players that hadn't made it back because of the weather from Italy. So you know whether. And I know that everybody wants to see these guys back in their games. Tage Thompson's got a big game for Buffalo taking on the Devils, and they've got a huge game because they're nine points out of a playoff spot. And expect Jack back. You know, I don't know if he'll be able to play. I don't even know if the Devils want him to play. It's possible he hasn't slept. Oh, don't crazy.

[A]

Honestly now. And Michael was actually talking about this today. The NHL is the 1 sport. I mean, the NFL too, but they don't play as much. You're seeing players rest in baseball, in the NBA. It's a sport onto its own, right? Playing and not playing and load management and all that stuff. But NHL players want to play, right? They want to play. They never will take time off unless they're really injured. When they miss a game, you know, something's not right. But this is one that I think if there's ever a time to accept load management or whatever you want to call it in the NHL, it's for those guys that came back from Milan. Like, every single team and every fan base should not expect these guys to be in uniform for the first game back, knowing the route they had to come back, knowing the fact that, you know, there's. First of all, we all saw it on social media, the partying that went down. And you can't blame them. How. How any of these guys would be expected to be in uniform right away makes no sense. Give him a day, Give him two days, whatever it is, and then get back in uniform.

[B]

And please don't compare it to an All Star game. Don't compare. World Baseball Classic.

[A]

Empty the tank.

[B]

It's the only these guys wanted to play in this. And listen, I'll be. I'll be the first to admit it's awkward. It's awkward for the NHL to shut down for three weeks to let this happen. It's awkward that there are guys that got hurt. I mean, I don't know if Sidney Crosby is going to be able to play in the Penguins next game. He couldn't play in the gold medal game on Sunday. Peter, you know, he would have dragged any body part that worked to be on that ice. And if he didn't, then he must be seriously hurt. So I'm sure Penguin fans are going to be like, oh, it's the Olympics, and he got hurt, and now he's hurt. Our chances of winning a Stanley Cup. It's an awkward situation, but once you accept it, these are the things that you have to accept. It is so important to these guys to play in the Olympics. It just is. And even if you grow up in the USA and Canada, where your first dream is probably winning a Stanley cup, but to be able to represent your country and go to the Olympics, it's a big deal. It just is a big, big deal. So they're allowed to party. They're allowed to take a moment. I know. Listen, the Devils need this game tomorrow, and there's. And the Penguins are going to need their game, and. And Connor Hellebuck's going to go back to Winnipeg, and they're going to need. But you can kind of understand. You almost wish that the NHL would just tell the. Tell the guys that came back from that game Sunday don't play. Right? So that nobody, Nobody feels like nobody's, you know, taking advantage of anything. Just like, listen, guys, because I. You hear stories about guys that win the super bowl mvp, like, they. They fly from wherever the game is to Disney World to do the parade, and then they go. They're on some talk show. Literally. Even Kenny's, like, he didn't get any sleep. He didn't even play in the game. So you just wonder if Jack, with all the things he's gone through, whether he's just probably on fumes and isn't it better as big as that game is tomorrow? I think you got to have to understand, if he doesn't play now. I'm not saying he's not going to, but don't you have to kind of understand it or. No.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, listen, I think every situation is different, but I'm sure there'll be certain teams where, you know, people really feel like the kind of year they're having, it's. This is of critical importance. It's over already. You celebrated. Can't you get back? But I think each situation will be different. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they get back and play. That would not surprise me.

[A]

Well, of course it wouldn't.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because that's. That's what these guys are about. But it's. And I'll say this, too, because, Don, like, you're right, it is awkward in a way. The NHL shuts down and these players go. And just like four nations. What we were making that remark, too. Right. Is you're pouring out your heart in these games. That but you're not doing that for my team. Right. Like, whoever it is that's playing my favorite team is not benefiting from you pouring your heart out in the middle of the season in a tournament that feels like the Stanley cup finals. But yet you come back, and now you've got to dive back into a season where, you know, we're a month and a half away from coming to the playoffs, and I got to make sure that you can still, you know, make a run for me. But I would. Wouldn't you guys both say that even though this Olympic break was not for the NHL, how much did it do for the NHL?

[B]

It's going to be a renewed, good investment, right?

[D]

Yeah, I would think so. I mean, unless you lose, like, you know, Connor McDavid, God forbid, or something like that, I. I have to think it increases. They will do better numbers. I mean, I've done. I mean, Devils are definitely going to be up, no question.

[A]

Yeah. Early on.

[B]

Oh, for sure. I think that, you know, there was conversation about, like, would. Would any of the nationally televised games be given back to MSG because the Devils look like they were out of it. No, I think everybody's going to want to be broadcasting games involving Jack Hughes. It's. I don't know how you quantify it. Will the Stanley cup final have a higher rating because it's coming off an Olympic year, but your players got a chance to be involved? I don't know what. There could be a possibility that 30 million people watched your players play in the Olympics, and people that never heard of Jack Hughes before now know who he is, and will they pop on a Devil game the next time they're on abc? They got a game coming up in a couple of weeks against the Rangers on abc. Well, will they watch that game a little bit more? Who knows how to quantify it? But this is why. Well, there's two reasons why they did it, guys. They want exposure for the NHL, and also the players want to play in it. And they want to have a good relationship, the owners, with the players. So there's no more strikes. There's no more lockouts. There's no more work stoppages. You want a good relationship. I think the NHL was willing to make the sacrifice for the relationship to have these guys go and play.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And as far as, like. And it's good for the Olympics, too, because, you know, Kenny reminded us that he called. They haven't been to the. They have. The NHL players have not been to the Olympics since 2014.

[A]

Right.

[B]

There have been Olympics since then, and it doesn't hit the same.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know, that would have been thrilling had there been amateurs playing in that game. And I think it would have gotten a huge number and people would have gotten excited. But a lot of the reason they got excited is that there were some recognizable names there. People know who Connor McDavid is. People know who the. Who the Tkachuk brothers are, based on what happened at the Four nations last year. So it's. It's fun, it's interesting, it's conversation, for sure. Let's go to Lang in Connecticut. You're on espn New York. What's up, Lang?

[C]

Good. Gentlemen, I am as jovial as anyone when it comes to the USA putting our neighbors up north down in the Olympics. First time since 1980. I'm a big fan of Kenny's going back to his father's days. The legendary Marv Albert, as Alan mention and he called a nearly unblemished Olympics. I did want to run something. Volume. I'm having a hard time reconciling one thing.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I've looked at the play. I've recorded it with my stopwatch. I'm taking into account reaction time. But when it happened, I actually watched it live outside of the Knicks. It was the most exciting live play I've seen in recent memory. You know, I can't imagine having to watch that on replay or something. You got to watch that live. But I was a little bit lost as a viewer, and I'll admit I'm not a big hockey guy. I'm all in basketball, and I don't want to dampen the mood, but when they went in, I'm seeing a 1.75 to 1.85 second delay on Kenny announcing it was a goal. And I'm a little perplexed why that took place. I don't know if this other. If you saw the player skated in front of the player who passed it back, maybe he lost the puck. Maybe he froze in the moment. I'm talking about Kenny Albert. No pun. I wanted to get your take. Obviously, you do this for a living. And Alan, you're on the color side, but I think there was a delay and it kind of ruined the moment for me a little bit. So I wanted to get your take on.

[B]

Well, hi. Well, thank you. Lang with a phone call. How ruined I'm not.

[A]

1.7 seconds ruined the moment, guys. First of all, first of all, he's in the building. Second of all, it went through the pad, trickled through the pad. You're looking at the official to get confirmation that it went in. Even Jack Hughes said he didn't know. I didn't went in.

[D]

It trickled in.

[A]

And those of us that were watching on television, like you, the camera decided to pan to the crowd or the director decided to go to the crowd rather than follow the shooter. Like, we're so used to that. Did you even notice, Don?

[B]

Pete, I will tell you this. And Lang, worst caller. Put it up on the board.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Done.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Good for. Not because we disagree, but, like, it ruined the moment for you, really. Okay, great. Enjoy. Go enjoy your basketball. We're good.

[A]

1.7.

[B]

1.7. Which I don't even feel one seconds. As somebody that does play by play in that moment, the one thing you don't want to ever do is get it wrong. All right? And there's a couple of triggers to tell you. If the puck went in one, you see it go in. But that's not. That's not always the luxury that you have, right? Sometimes it bounces out quick, sometimes it trickles in. You don't know if it crossed the line or you just didn't see it cross. Indicators. What does the player do? Well, Jack skated away. What do the fans do behind the net? Do they raise their arms in unison? But the one thing you look for is when did the light go on? And that's what you really wait for. Honestly, if I don't see the light go on, I'm not going to say it's a goal unless I saw it go in. I'm waiting for the light to go on, because if the light doesn't go on, I can always say, well, the light didn't go on. So obviously they didn't think it was a goal. And if they find out it's a goal later, well, then, you know, tough luck that you kind of ruined the call. But it's not your fault. When I watched it live, I don't know how you guys felt about it.

[A]

I did.

[B]

I wasn't sure it went in right

[A]

away because how did you know?

[B]

Because you don't know, because I didn't see a light go on. There seemed to be a delayed reaction because of how the puck eventually cross

[A]

the line and the camera didn't stay on the ice where you'd see the referee vehemently pointing, right, adamantly saying, goal. We never saw that because all we saw were people in the car celebrating. That's when you're like, wait, did he score? Like you.

[B]

You look for the official, too. That's always an indicator, but the official's not always in your eye shot. Yeah, you know, so there, there's, like I said, there's the few indicators, but the one indicator that really counts is the light going up. All right? It's not like basketball where you see the ball go in, you see the ball go in, you see the ball go over the fence. In baseball, in football, you usually see him cross the line. And I have seen game winning touchdowns not get called right away because the official didn't put his arms up, even if you see him go in like. So Kenny called it the way it was called. It was delayed because of how the goal was scored. So it ruined it for you. I apologize for your day being ruined.

[D]

Worse.

[B]

Call it. At least you get that. So in the studio, that's something I want to see. Lang, Connecticut, worst call and how we signify it is 1.75 seconds.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah, that's. That's the line, which I doubt very seriously.

[B]

It was 2 seconds, but that was

[A]

the worst 1.75 seconds of a call we ever had.

[B]

Now, now the other side of it. The Keller goal for the women. That's easy. You know, she's got the puck right. She's coming in. Those are dreams for me as a play by play guy. A breakaway.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know where. All right, something's gonna happen here. It's gonna be a save. It's gonna be a goal shot wide. You're down to like three options and usually could see if the goal crosses the line. But in that moment, first of all, he's got to pick up Jack who just entered the screen. I didn't see that it was Jack until he turned and I quickly glimpsed at the 86.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Dude, dude, you were a nice guy

[A]

and he was polite, you know, he's a very nice guy.

[B]

But you know what? It was a polite, nice, worse call. And I hope it's up there for a decade.

[A]

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Did you say someone got shot?

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Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami, gunned down the key to this case.

[A]

It's Brian. An hour before he died, he was

[C]

on the phone arguing with somebody.

[A]

This might be a hit. You want the truth? They just want a conviction.

[B]

Being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us.

[A]

Murder at the U.

[D]

Listen now.

[A]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[D]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[A]

Catch this show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes you just can't take it anymore. This is let's talk About It Tuesday,

[B]

and it's a really.

[A]

With Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[D]

Every time I hear myself yelling, hang up on this idiot. I hear a man who's not doing

[B]

well in that moment hang up on unhinged idiot.

[D]

That was really. That's up there, Don. For most unhindered. I don't remember what it was about. And I was done.

[B]

I don't remember. I could guess.

[A]

Caller was named Ed. I don't remember what Ed was talking about.

[D]

It was. It wasn't as serious. I don't know how serious a subject it was. I think I was just incredibly frustrated. But I did not love Ed.

[A]

It was funny. I did not love Ed.

[D]

I'm. What I gather when I hear it is that I. I think there are a couple other drops in that moment. I. When I hear I don't think I love dead is what I'm getting.

[B]

Ed's dead, baby.

[A]

Ed's dead, baby.

[B]

All right, so who wants to go first?

[D]

I mean, do you want to just take care of Lang right now?

[B]

I got to say about Lang that he was on hold before Kenny came on.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

So he was obviously, you know, definitely motivated.

[C]

I am as jovial as anyone when it comes to the usa. Looked at the play. I recorded it with my stopwatch. I'm taking into account reaction time.

[B]

I missed. I missed the part where he had the stopwatch out. Dude. Dude. High virgin nerd. Now, usually you don't wow the triple threat.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you nerds usually don't get high. They're, they're, they're, they're too straight laced.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But this guy is high as a kite. He was high on the call. I think he was high Sunday. So high before 11am too.

[A]

Wow. That's a lot.

[B]

You got an issue.

[D]

That's a lot. That's a lot.

[B]

But if you were as jovial now, if you Just sit. He did say he wasn't a hockey guy, but he said he was excited about it. It ruined the call.

[A]

Ruined it.

[B]

I don't get it.

[A]

Kind of ruined it for me now

[B]

because of the circumstances. Like I said, the Keller call is probably the best of the two because it's a breakaway and you see it go in. But I think everybody was kind of delayed. And you're right. I don't know why they pan up to the fans. And that was just a choice that NBC decided to make. But you took out the stopwatch.

[C]

I'm seeing a 1.75 to 1.85 second delay.

[B]

I gotta tell you that when, when. When the virginity is broken, you're lucky you last that long. How about that? When you pull out. I thought it would have gotten a better reaction. I'm surprised. I'm really surprised. I'm hoping that Alan was in such, like, guffaw that there was silence for a second. I thought I'd get a better reaction from Peter.

[D]

Can you say it again?

[B]

The virgins are coming. The virgins are coming. I just said, I have accused him of being a high nerdy virgin. So he took out the stopwatch between 1.7 and 1.8 seconds. I said, well, when you do end your virginity, you'll be lucky it lasts that long. But it didn't hit the same the second time. I don't know if you're gonna see, you know, Jerry Seinfeld out. It's like, let me repeat his jokes. Let me repeat.

[D]

Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The reason I don't love it is because you're giving a lot of credit for the virginity ending at some point. It's a lot of credit and hope for positivity.

[A]

You know, I mean, listen, sometimes I love chairs.

[D]

I love chairs. But, buddy, once you're pulling out the stopwatch, don't you think, what am I doing? But, yeah, what am I doing?

[B]

Here's why I'm attacking.

[A]

Trying too hard, bro.

[B]

All right, you can not like the call. I mean, it's all subjective. You could say, I thought, you know, it could have been better. Whatever. I get it. We were all. We're all criticized in some way, shape or form. But to have the less than two seconds to go out and get a stopwatch sounds like you're trying too hard, bro, to hate it. Yeah, sounds to me like because you're a basketball guy, not a hockey guy, you weren't as jovial and you're looking for a reason why Was to have it ruin the call. That call could have been in Spanish. How did. How. How did it ruin the moment for you, man? Come on, brother. Come back to me. I want. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out and buy a frame.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And I'm gonna frame and put it on the wall.

[A]

I thought you were gonna, like, embroider it so, like, it's there forever. Hang it up in the band caller hall of fame.

[B]

I might put a stake through the wall to keep it on there.

[C]

There.

[B]

He. There's no chance that's ever coming down ever as long as that building.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Wait, so what's your prediction of how long it lasts?

[B]

I. How long do I plan on doing this show?

[A]

Well, the last one was two months, and that was bad.

[B]

Call my breath for two months. That's. That's. That's something that's gonna be up there. I want a load bearing wall.

[A]

Here's what I put it on a load bearing wall so it can't be removed. What I don't like is it feels like sometimes these calls are like the motivation is exactly what we're doing. No, it's like, make them react. Like I need to come up with something to say that no one else is saying because I want to sound profound and smart and then hope that we'll end up talking about it. And that's part of the personal enjoyment, so to speak.

[D]

Is you get off to play devil's advocate against us. Maybe there's some people out there just sincerely don't care about, like, play by play the way we do. I mean, let's be honest. This is a call of three nerds who care about play by play and color commentary. Right?

[A]

Well, we're sports. Maybe they're supposed to care.

[B]

Right?

[D]

We're sports broadcasters. We care about this. Maybe they're like, I like sports. I don't give a damn about the broadcasters. Let me just come up with something to ruffle their feathers. In which case, mission accomplished.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Just taking a dump on Kenny's call, which I thought was maybe the best of his career, but here. But here we are. Alan, who do you have that guy or.

[A]

No, no, let's just talk about it. Thursday's that guy. But I want to. What I want to talk about is to just put. Put a final bow end and complete the discussion from yesterday with anyone that just wanted to try to ruin the moment, especially ruin the moment for Jack or pull him in many different directions. Did you see him on Good morning America?

[D]

I have not seen it.

[B]

I heard about it. I didn't see it.

[A]

He. One of the things that everybody got upset about was the whole disparaging of the women's team and that the men laughed and all that stuff. And did they hear everything? No. And what Jack said is something that is a story that of course these kind of things get completely overlooked. That's the problem here, is that only when it is something that is lightning rod that I can take and use for my agenda so that it's no longer about the athlete and you're now paying attention to me and I hijack the moment. Cause that's what social media is about. And I'm telling you, I'm inches away from hitting delete. Boys, I'm really close.

[B]

I got the picture all loaded. I'm ready to go.

[A]

You know what? I might put the same one. And so Jack said. When Jack was asked about the women's team thing, he was annoyed by it. But then he explained, he said, our relationship with them over the course of being in the Olympic Village, we were so tight with them after we won the gold medal. We were in the cafeteria, 3:30am in the morning with them. We go from there, pack our bags, we're on the bus. And he said, people are so negative about things. He said that they. We were always around them. They were around us. We supported each other. That's what it's about. And then he added this other part of it, which is like, everything's so political. We're athletes. We're proud to represent the U.S. and when you get a chance to go to the White House and meet the president as proud Americans, it's patriotic no matter what your views are. We're excited to go to the White House and be part of that. And that's all he's saying. What he's basically saying is, there's nothing more to this than just that. That's pretty cool. I'll do it. I'll go there. And the thing with the women's team, he wanted to shoot that down right away and say we were always around them. They were around us. We hung out, we supported each other. They won gold, we celebrate with them. We won gold. They were there with us three o' clock in the morning, like there is no issue. There is no whatever the disconnect they always want to do and the divide they want to create. So all I want to talk about is just to reiterate what I said yesterday. And anyone listening, if you are getting tired of this, just understand what happens? This is when there's a great moment, something special, something enjoyable, that everyone together in unison, whether it was for 1.75 seconds or not, you smiled. So one thing every American had in that moment that was watching, we all agreed on one thing. That's pretty cool. Then it became from several people, I told you, these are the narcissists out there who. How can I make this about me? Let me create an agenda so that you're no longer paying attention to handsome young Jack and these American teams and this fun you're having and let me hijack it and make it about me again. So you're clicking like and retweeting me so I become the story again. That's the problem that we have right now with social media. And then you're driven to it and drawn one way or another because you see it and now you're reacting angry or supportive, whatever it is. Just be careful of people hijacking moments for their own agenda and getting caught up in that and forgetting that the whole reason why you were there was because you enjoyed something. You're allowed to enjoy things in life without it becoming an agenda. And because there's narcissists that want to control it. Be careful with that when you are on social media.

[B]

Well, here's the thing.

[A]

And talk is dead.

[B]

Did anybody. Did those people enjoy it or were they. Did they not get any enjoyment out of it and now want to try to get garner something out of it by making it about something else? And it's just. It's sad. Well, I got all that off our chi. The other one I was going to talk about is like people that for whatever reason seem to want to use the snowblower and blow the snow into the street. It's disrespectful.

[D]

How does that work though?

[A]

It's also.

[D]

As opposed to what. What are you supposed to do with

[B]

the, with the blower, I mean, onto your grass. Unless you got yours from Fisher Price. What you do is you can turn in which direction the snow is gonna blow, right? So you put your angle it. So it either goes into the other person's yard on the grass where there's already snow, or shoot it forward, don't shoot it back into the just newly paved street. So there's now a pile of snow I've got to go and deal with.

[A]

Yeah, it's. That's. That's a. That's a real thing. By the way. By the way, Pro Tip WD40 on your shovel and wet snow like yesterday. Doesn't stick to it.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

Yes. Because that's the most annoying thing a lot of people when you shovel and you try to throw it and it sticks to the shovel and then you got to hit it with your hand.

[D]

It makes a difference.

[A]

On the WD40 spray. Yeah, spray that. Also on your snowblower, spray the. What are they? The, the rotors. Spray that before you go when it's dry and you won't have that. Snow yesterday was very sticky and very heavy and a little pro tip, that's all.

[D]

Here's a pro tip. Don't do what I did because.

[A]

What'd you do?

[D]

I'm in trouble. I did nothing.

[B]

Don't do nothing.

[D]

My car got completely hammered again and. Oh, I mean, I just got it out after three weeks and now it is in bad shape. I've done the. I've. I've wiped off the back window. Do you know what I'm doing, guys? Do you know, do you want to. Here's a pro tip. This is what I'm doing to my New York City car that's just parked on the middle of the street. I wear my jacket, that's a waterproof kind of jacket. And I just take my arm and literally just clothesline the snow off the car.

[A]

Do I need to get you a scraper?

[D]

That's what I have.

[A]

What'd you say I get you a telescopic handle scraper?

[D]

That, that's the thing. All I have is the hand scraper. Not doing it right now.

[A]

All right, wait, Peter, park on the right side of the street. Oh, no.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Did you put. Which side of the street are you parked on?

[D]

I'm on the left side.

[A]

That's good. At least you weren't plowed in. Yeah.

[D]

So is that it? The left side? The side you want to be on.

[A]

Because on the right, if you're going down a two way street, the plow has to go to the right because it's the only way that it wouldn't go on the other side of the street.

[D]

Well, I'm not on a two way

[A]

street, just in general. The plow doesn't move. The plow is not going to move the way it's going. It's going to always be on the right side of the plow is always going to be angled the street certain way. And you want to be on the left side because on the right side you're getting all the snow right up against you, which is why there's people like two feet of snow. Over their cars right now. As opposed to, like, the people on the left side have a lot, but not that much. Peter, you're going to need a new battery, or at least you're going to need to, you know, get it. Charge it up.

[D]

Frozen and covered with snow repeatedly.

[A]

You haven't driven it much in the last month because.

[B]

Well, no, I had it out.

[D]

I mean, there was. There was a good week between storms where I was out and about, so I did a full week of driving.

[A]

Okay, all right.

[D]

Now I'm back.

[A]

Okay, but now you're back in the icicle.

[D]

I am back in the icicle. I got it tonight. I got to do some damage so I could try to make it to Bristol by tomorrow night.

[A]

Yeah. Flamethrower. Try that.

[D]

Is that what you think?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Honestly.

[D]

What is the pro tip at this point, though? What do you do at this?

[A]

What's worse, the front or the back? Yeah, the front. Okay, so shovel out the back. Yep. So that you can at least back up. Yep.

[D]

Oh, you mean which. Which sides worse to get out?

[A]

You mean like just. Just thinking about getting out of a spot. Right. So you're not going to shovel it all out, which is. Which has less snow in front of the car, behind the car?

[D]

I can't tell yet. I'm concerned with this.

[B]

He doesn't know the car might be dead, Right. The car is replaced by two dead camels. He doesn't know. I don't know.

[D]

But Don's right. Could be a dead animal.

[B]

Could you. You have remote start, right? No, real. I don't pay.

[A]

No, you got to do that because if. Although before you do that, clear away the exhaust.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't want to, because that'll go right back.

[D]

Clear out the exhaust. You got to make sure there's no snow on the exhaust.

[A]

Well, you don't. You want to make sure it's clear because if not, you, you'll get in the car and then you'll be dead.

[D]

Oh, because it's being blocked by snow.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And it's shooting the stuff right back into the car. So you're committing suicide. You're pulling a driveway, a garage suicide by pretty much.

[A]

Right. Without even realizing it.

[D]

That's a pro tip. How do you save that one? That's the real pro tip.

[B]

Saving lives. That's what you're trying to do there.

[A]

Well, I didn't realize. Yeah. I didn't know how bad the snow situation was for you.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

All right, let's hear from you. 1-800-919-3776. Let's go to the busy phones. Talk to Fred in Upstate New York. You're on ESPN New York. Hi Fred.

[C]

Good afternoon gentlemen. How we doing?

[B]

Good.

[C]

As a longtime listener and first time caller, I've taken a real chance and I'm not defending Lang, but I would like to clarify something that might help him out. Yes, the suspense added by the delay in the camera change left us sitting there unsure. Just like Kenny's, unsure whether or not it went in. I think that's the might deserve commentary more than Kenny's call, which isn't the relevant part of it, but we all sat there for whatever amount of time that was. I didn't have time to grab a stopwatch wondering is it in or is it not? Looking for the puck on the ice or wondering if it gets Set out of play. That suspense was something that I haven't really lived. Being accustomed to live calls giving us that answer so quickly.

[B]

But. But the camera angle didn't affect Kenny. I think the way the goal was scored affected everything.

[C]

I completely agree. But as observers on the tv, we couldn't react. We didn't know. And we're accustomed to being spoiled that that answer comes so fast. This answer we waited for. It was well worth the wait. But there was a pause where we just weren't sure. Are we celebrating this?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But. But. But why.

[D]

But my only question for Lang is what does it have to do with Kenny, though, like that.

[C]

I agree with you. I said my yes. I think he's barking up the wrong tree. You know, there was a way. The delay was interesting. It made great suspense. However, we got the answer we were hoping for and.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I think we've all just. Lesson would be we could be a hair more patient.

[B]

I got. I would say this, Fred. This is my guess. And we're having fun. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. I just had a problem that it ruined the call for him.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Here's my allegation. I don't think he saw it live. So he knows the goal was scored. So he goes back to watch it and it's like, well, why was it so delayed? Because he knew the goal was already scored. But in that moment, because I think, like basketball, you see the ball go in, right? It's. It's. It's obvious. But in hockey, the goal is not always.

[C]

But was he rewinding this to find

[B]

out a score and then find out it wasn't a goal?

[A]

There's no doubt. He. He's probably went back and wanted to time it, which. That's, I think, why we reacted the way we did. It's like, my man, just like, there's a lot else to. For you to be concerned about. All I can say, I don't know how anybody else feels. I gotta be honest. I never heard Kenny's initial call.

[B]

No, I didn't.

[A]

You know, you play it back on social media to hear the call, which was phenomenal. But we were all like, come on. I mean, were you watching? If you were watching alone, maybe you were alone. But we. I had. The whole family was on the couch and we all just started yelling like we all went crazy. So we didn't hear the call.

[B]

But there's no question there was a delay in reaction because it wasn't. It wasn't so clean. You didn't see the net. Like, like again, all the little indicators, the light going on, the crowd reacting behind the glass.

[A]

Yeah, there was, there was a goal, Donnie. The Patrick Kane's game winner against the Flyers for the Stanley cup, for the Blackhawks. No one saw that go in.

[B]

Nobody. He only. He did. Only he saw it.

[A]

When he started celebrating. That's when you realize that he scored. But I remember that distinctly. Like no one had that call nailed down because no one could see it.

[B]

I, I was in the building for that game in Philly and I thought it. It. When I saw him react because he scores the goal. I don't know if you remember this goal, Peter. The Blackhawks Flyers. It's. I, it was game six over time.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Patrick Kane scores. No one knows it went in except he saw it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he starts driving. Everybody's just standing there, there and he's throwing all his hero. So I'm thinking, what is he getting attacked by bees? Like, I didn't know. Like him scoring wasn't like I, I was like, what is he doing?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then people finally figured it out. Like, so it's not. That's the one thing you always hope for as a play by play guy. Just please let the goal be clean.

[A]

All right. Don, have you looked at the text? Say yes or no. Did you? Yes or no? Don't. Don't look at it. Don't look at it.

[B]

I didn't see it.

[A]

All right, you didn't see it. Get. We have the number.

[B]

Oh, for Sunday.

[A]

Yes. Peter, have you seen it?

[D]

I just did.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Couldn't help myself.

[A]

All right, Peter's out. Don, over. Under 25 and a half.

[B]

I would say over 25 and a half. I think it's over.

[A]

Over.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

26 million.

[B]

It was affected by the time.

[A]

You're not happy with that?

[B]

Well, because it's still lower than 2010 and I, and I really do believe

[A]

it peaked at 26 million actually is what it combined 20.7 and 18.6 million live.

[B]

It had to be affected by the time in that game. If that game was. If that game was at 2:00 in the afternoon.

[A]

Yeah, it goes well, you can do the math.

[D]

If that, if that game was later in the day, it gets over 30, but it's still close 20. Hell of a number.

[A]

Here's NBC is pushing it. This is from PR NBCPR. They're saying it's the most watched pre 9:00am Eastern time sporting event on record in the US there's a lot of qualifications there.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

That includes some stuff there's stuff.

[A]

And 2.1 million viewers watched encores of it. So people who didn't watch it live watched it back. You know, that's.

[B]

Listen, I was talking to Bryce Salvador today. He's like, 8 o' clock was perfect for me. Game's over at 11. I got the rest of the day.

[A]

Yeah, it was great, but.

[B]

But you're still talking about, you know, central time zone. That game's at seven. All right, Mountain, it's at six West. It's five in the morning on a Sunday. Like, I'm sorry, that's gonna be tough for people to get up at 5. You got to really be a die Hard, like, hockey fan to set the alarm for 5 o' clock in the morning.

[A]

LA Market probably wasn't.

[B]

Yeah, they DVR'd it and started watching. But the problem with that is you get up and you probably see a bunch of text messages telling you what

[A]

happened, and that's why it peaked at 26.

[B]

Well, by 26 we're talking about. It's after 10:30. So that's 7:30 in the West.

[A]

That's.

[B]

But listen, it was something that everybody watched. Everybody thought it was awesome. Except the except line ruined Lang's day. I don't know what to tell you.

[C]

It's kind of being a 1.75 to 1.8.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

1.21.

[B]

Let me squeeze in Mike and Hawthorne. You're in ESPN New York. What's up, Mike?

[D]

Hey, guys.

[B]

How are you doing? Good, good.

[D]

I.

[C]

First of all, I want to thank alan for the WD40 because I was ready to throw my shovel over much of. Much appreciate that, first of all. And second of all, I was. I almost drove off the turnpike listening to whatever that guy's name is and thinking, don and I grew up in Lang. Don and I grew up in the same town. I'm a couple years older than Don, but I know all those. All of the friends that Don grew up with because my sister is younger than I. And all I kept thinking is that we're sitting at Shortways Barn or Kirker's Inn or somewhere in town, and that guy Lang stands up and goes, that call was 1.75 too late. I think we should call Albert. This guy would have got thrown out of that bar on his head. Right in our town. Yeah, he'd be right, right.

[B]

Right in the middle of Gothel Road. Right, Mike?

[C]

Right in the middle of Golf Road. Right in front of the plows. We'll find you in April.

[A]

Are you out of your mind.

[B]

I'm hurry.

[C]

I'm very happy I got on because I could not make a worse call than that. And again, Alan, thanks for the WD40, brother.

[B]

Appreciate it. Oh, man, good luck with it. I wanted to squeeze in Mike.

[A]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[B]

I don't want to know how the

[A]

sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don, Alan and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.