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Don Hahn
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.
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Alan Hahn
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Don Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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Peter Rosenberg
Don Han Rosenberg, 880 ESPN New York. Peter Rosenberg, Alan Hahn. Don is on vacation this week.
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Alan Hahn
Are they going to say he's on assignment? Like, you know, the way you said that he's on. And I was like, don's on assignment. What is he doing? Can I give you a game chime brought to you by Telemar Do Irish Whiskey.
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Peter Rosenberg
Are you kidding me?
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Alan Hahn
And you know why? Because when it's game time, I like when he holds. It never gets old. The Mets open a series with the Mariner, with the Mariners. No, they don't.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, they just closed a series of the man. Yeah, it's confusing.
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Alan Hahn
I just. I just. They just. Ron Burgundy me, by the way.
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Peter Rosenberg
Go after yourself.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I'm just like. I'm just reading this. Like, Mets open is with them. No, they don't. Nobody plays tonight. That's game time.
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Peter Rosenberg
There you go.
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Alan Hahn
And tell them to do the original triple distilled, triple blended triple cast Bengals, baby. You got that? You do have that. Be sure to grab a Telemardu or try the new Telemurdo. Honey, during today's action, glasses up to enjoying Telemardu responsibly. So that is a Monday Night Football vehicle.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yes, it is.
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Alan Hahn
Have you heard that after the game, a new feature.
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Peter Rosenberg
What's that?
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Alan Hahn
Rich Eisen on SportsCenter.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's hosting. Yeah, so. Oh. Because on Mondays. Wait, but hold on.
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Alan Hahn
It used to be Scott Van Pelt.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, so? So SVP previously was doing the lead in the Monday Night Countdown and then Sports SportsCenter, which is a lot. That is a lot. And he does. He does the late Sports center every day. So, like, I can't imagine. If you're Scott, you really mind being like, no. In fact, I'm going to go a step further. Scott was probably like, please, please give. Rich, I am totally good to do the other nights. And then on Mondays, I can just worry about Countdown and not worry about SportsCenter.
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Alan Hahn
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
But we get the great Rich Eisen back on our heirs. That's exciting.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah. So he, he will be on after the game now, you know, again, the whole NFL Network, ESPN merger that happened and he's certainly part of it. So you're going to get that tonight as well. 20 years in the making. Back, baby, back and better than ever.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's hell of a talk show host, that Rich Eisenhower.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, so. So anyway, that's what's going on tonight.
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Peter Rosenberg
And now that he works with us, I'll pipe down on my takes on his play by. You won't ever hear it again. It's part of the family, for God.
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Alan Hahn
It suddenly has to change.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's here with my family.
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Alan Hahn
I was going to say, why change now? I mean, you, you are who you are.
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Peter Rosenberg
Because I'm a fraud. Because I'm a fraud.
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Alan Hahn
We don't all have to get along. Oh, let's see. Oh, we have a new. Don't take all of that, though, Anthony. So, yes, this is, this is the new script ready? No locals in action tonight. Oh, but ESPN will be covering Bengals. Commanders at it.
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Peter Rosenberg
There you go.
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Alan Hahn
Damn right.
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Peter Rosenberg
As it. As it should be.
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Alan Hahn
Oh, it's so good. It's Monday.
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Peter Rosenberg
It is Monday. Now, now, Alan, I know you don't want to have an I told you so moment because you hoped that you would be wrong and you hoped that the Yankees team was ready and built for a World Series championship run. But two months ago now, maybe more, you started to say you don't think this team is built like that. And now here we sit in August and in spite of the sweep this weekend, you're still not feeling it, huh?
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Alan Hahn
Well, I hate to use this phrase, what you're seeing now and what you're going to see because they have the weakest strength of schedule remaining for the rest of the season, which is benefit to them. I mean, they went through a tough stretch, they were playing a lot of good teams. But this is going to be fool's gold. And that's what I'm afraid of the Cardinals have done. They completely gave up. Their bullpen is worse than the Met bullpen right now. Like, they're really bad. And so the Yankees did what you're supposed to do. They beat up on bad pitching, scored a ton of runs, and it was fun. But I. Look, what I worry about is everybody going to now get caught up in them running through a schedule that's going to. You're going to see them playing some really bad. Like they're not going to play anybody good. They have the Red Sox this weekend. I'll watch that more carefully than anything else because that tells you more. But when you're playing the Nationals and the White Sox, you know, like, come on, man. Like, like I can't, I can't get caught up in series like that and feel like they turned the corner because they got a weekend sweep over a Cardinals team that you could look at how they played. Did they look like a team that was locked in? They didn't locked into the off season, whatever it is. Like, by the way, that is one of the best baseball towns in the country. Did you see how many people decided not to go to those games? It was Yankees. Cardinals. Yeah, the Yankees.
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Peter Rosenberg
Like normal year.
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Alan Hahn
Oh my God. That place should have been packed.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
And instead nothing. Fox had the game on Saturday and all the, and they just showed all the empty seats. They were letting you see it like, look, nobody came. Now I understand it was, you know, a million degrees in St. Louis, but that place usually fills for, you know, they're, they're getting 40,000 regularly.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, that's. It's an unusual Cardinals year.
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Alan Hahn
But when you're getting 20 for the Yankees, that's a problem. So I like, I hate being the wet blanket. I understand it. But my concern is that all this is going to be is sort of a filter over what you're really, what the Jenkins really about. And while they're going to play Tampa and Tampa is also kind of in that same place where, you know, they are. The Tampa's a pain in the ass. You're playing at Steinmer in a field. It's two games. They better take care of business. You want to go into that series with the Red Sox and if you're not alpha blood, then you're that team we thought you were, which is a team that is rudderless, has flaws and they get exposed against good teams. That's what I see. I'm sorry, I am not fully bought in on everything that they've done. They got better at third base defense. Yes. No question about it. He's. He's been really good. They survived, I guess the judge injury and now it sounds like he's going to be on the field again. That's a good sign. Volpe has clearly gotten over his problems. He's actually been excellent in the field. Very good. And that's also a positive. But the guys are banged up. I mean some of the guys even got. Got hurt right away. Rosario. So you know I just don't feel like this team is worth my emotional investment. They have not earned it. And them beating teams like the Cardinals and White Sox and stuff like that's not going to make me suddenly feel like they've turned the corner. They found it. No, their schedule, their remaining strength of schedule is the weakest in the entire league. They're going to benefit from that. Now, can they take advantage of it and win the division, which is critical. It's if they have even a shot at trying to get to the back to the alcs. Yes. Because if I think that, if I personally believe, if they're a wild card team right now, they don't look like a team that could find themselves in the World Series through from starting from the wild card. I just don't see it. They don't have the starting pitching.
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Peter Rosenberg
Their bullpen is questionable. Give me a ceiling. Give me a ceiling. Give me a, Give me a realistic alcs.
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Alan Hahn
Alcs. If they can win the division by taking advantage of a weak schedule, but they got a lot of work to do. That's, that's, you know, what, what am I, what I'm saying is, is, is right now outrageous, but Toronto is, you know, starting to come back a little bit. So it's still there, but it's a lot of work. I just love the fact that Cashman spoke last week, said a lot of obvious things and one of the things that he did say was to make sure to take the pressure off Aaron Boone and admit that for Boone this has been tough because Boone has had to face the music after every single game, which is true. It's not easy and it's not fair that he's got to do it. So the fact that Cashin went on the road trip and spoke, that's good, that's important. But he had to make sure that he took some of the pressure off Boone and put it on himself. But have you noticed, Peter, that more and more former Yankees are saying are getting louder about their criticism of the Yankee approach when it comes to using analytics as the be all, end all? It started like, you know, Jeter has suggested it enough and started with some, like, peripheral guys that you kind of heard of but didn't really know who they were. And then all of a sudden, David Cohn, little by little, has mentioned it a couple of times on the broadcast, especially the national ones, about how like, you know, because by the way, no one believes in analytics more than David Cohen. He recites chapter and verse, all the different numbers because he's so into it, he loves baseball. But then Cohen also brings up the fact that, you know, some things can't be quantified by numbers. Some things are about fact, feel and emotion and. And all that stuff. And I think him saying that lends credibility to it. But then Joe Girardi starts saying it. Joe Girardi had to follow the book, too, when he was managing. But Girardi, on a recent broadcast, was also talking about the same thing, that, hey, I get it, that the numbers tell you that if you just do this every time, majority of the time you'll win, so you're going to have losses, but. But a majority of the time it'll work to your advantage, so just stick with it. And he said, but you can't always go with that because, like I've always said, like, analytics can't tell you about a guy, a guy's mental state on a certain day having a bad day. So the analysts go out the window, right? Or I got a toe injury that now affects the way I swing the bat. The analysts are out the window now because that's a variable that you never, never account for. So he says that then in the broadcast of the game on Old Timers Day, not the Old Timers game, but the broadcast that game from the game day against the Astros, Joe Torrey comes to the booth and, boy, Torrey was. You talk about preaching the gospel about the importance of still having a feel for your team and just knowing. I know I shall. David Cohn came in a game, and he is. His numbers were bad, but I just knew he was right for that moment, and it worked like he told the story. And so sometimes you can't go with the numbers. You got to go with, I know my player, and I trust him in this situation. So you're just hearing it more and more. And that. That tells me that it's just the rebellion against, you know, Brian Cashman's death star, which is that room where he keeps his. His numbers, nerd numbers, and all those guys that are crunching on numbers every. Here's the lineup we need today, and here's how you play today, and here's you don't play today, and all that stuff. The rebellion is getting louder and stronger, and at some point, Hal Steinbrenner has to hear it and has to decide, okay, we got to blow this room up, and we got to do it differently. So I'm hoping that that's the case and that's, you know, that's what you have to expect, that if a Season continues to go the way it is, which. Especially when you get to the playoffs, which I think they're going to make the playoffs one way or another. But when you get there and you play the good teams and you get exposed by the good teams the same way you get exposed every year by the good teams, eventually some of these voices have to be heard other than Brian Cashman's.
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Peter Rosenberg
Now, if. If, if they are on the outside looking in, which is app. You know, you think they're making the playoffs, but it's clearly on the table that they cannot.
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Alan Hahn
It's. It's on the table. But I mean, I got to be honest with you. I mean, it's. It would take an epic collapse that I don't see.
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Peter Rosenberg
Peter, the schedule, it. Short of epic, but. You mean because of how bad the schedule is?
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Alan Hahn
Schedule is a joke. Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, because the schedule.
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Alan Hahn
It's a joke.
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Peter Rosenberg
Okay. But if it were to happen and they don't even make the playoffs, could that finally be the moment where they go, we were in the World Series last year. This year, yes, we dealt with injuries, but so did every. So does everybody. And we also got great play from our best player. They don't even make the playoffs. Would that be enough to finally be an impetus for actual change? Or you think no matter what, short of them going over the rest of the year.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah. You see, what you're. What you're doing here is you're setting up a scenario for fans to root for losing. That's what you're doing. I'm not saying you're. You want it. I'm saying what you're suggesting is basically a form of where fans almost. It's better if they don't make the playoffs?
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Peter Rosenberg
Or how about. How about there's at least a silver line if it were to happen?
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Alan Hahn
It was. It was Ty Butler who said a couple of weeks ago with me, he said, is winning the World Series the worst thing to happen? Oh, I'm sorry. Reaching the World Reaching the World Series the worst thing that could happen? Because it set an expectation of a team that wasn't really that good. But somehow they got there because Cleveland wasn't good either. Right. Like, it was just. Was a poor American League. And that's like, a really interesting statement because as a fan, you're like, no, making the. Getting this to the Final Four, like, reaching the championship round, that's a great season. But did it. Did it buy more time? Did it create this belief of, see, told you the numbers work. See, told you our way works. And sometimes when you want to just finally put an end to a death grip like they have with this analytics controlling the Yankees the way they do. And if you read stuff around the league, every team around the league knows this. Teams around the league kind of almost mock the Yankees for how much they buy into it, how much they put into it. That's ridiculous. So them not making the playoffs. If you told me, like, you had to guarantee me that Hal, like, behind the scenes has said, if we don't make the playoffs, I'm firing everybody, which is. That's a George thing more than it is a Hal thing. But if you told me that, there's a part of me, I hate it, but there's a part of me that might be like, yeah, I hope they lose every freaking game because maybe we finally get out of this. Right? But. But I don't believe that. I don't. I don't know that Hal would do that because they have all the excuses to built in to say, well, you know, I mean, we lost Garrett Cole and then Judge lost some time and he got hurt and Stanton had the elbow thing early. Like, they'll find reasons that'll. That'll cover up the mistakes and they'll just keep on pressing on.
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Peter Rosenberg
By the way, speaking of what you just said his name. Is there a chance we're about to be in a Giancarlo Stanton nightmare as well?
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Alan Hahn
Nightmare?
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Peter Rosenberg
What do you mean he's now missed multiple games?
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Alan Hahn
Well, he.
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Peter Rosenberg
And they're. And they're unsure. You know, it's just. This is a not great situation. You have the Judge. That's not great. Stanton having to play the field is already not great to start out with.
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Alan Hahn
You already know if you already know that.
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Anthony Pusick
I mean, yeah, if Judge can't play the field, then Judge has to dh. And if John Kyle Stanton can't play three days in a row in the field, which he did, and then he needed a full week off to a full weekend to recover, where Boone did say because of how. And look, you saw Bellinger misplay a ball yesterday, and he's a great fielder. That wouldn't have looked. It would have looked even uglier if Stanton was in the outfield. So even if he was healthy, he probably wouldn't have been able to be in those games this weekend. But if Judge can't play the field, you're without one of your better hitters because he's hitting.300 since he came back.
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Alan Hahn
They have a crazy record when the two of them are in the. In the game together, like the Yankee Yankees are just expenditure exponentially. A better team when Stanton and Judge are in the lineup together. But they. The problem is that they rarely are. And that's an example of it. I was reading Jack Curry's book on the 98 Yankees, and I saved a quote because this will again, Peter, like, this explains it. Anybody listening explains it better than anything. He tells a story about early in that season. Everybody remembers the Yankees were one in four. You know, they got off to a bad start. Believe it or not, the 98 Yankees got off to a bad start. And there was a lot of concern about, you know, Torrey's job and everything. It was so stupid. Just early in the season. But they had a meeting, and Torrey had finally reached a point where he got frustrated enough to raise his voice in the meeting. Imagine today, right? Oh, my God. He raised his voice. He yelled at professionals.
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Peter Rosenberg
You're not allowed to do that as a manager.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah. And this is coming off again. They won a World Series and then lost, and they were coming back mad about losing in 97 the way they did to Cleveland. So he. He raises like, he really got after it with the players about how pissed off he was at them and the way they were playing, and they had to snap out of it. And David Cohn spoke up. Now, he had a voice in that room because he was a vet and respected one. And so he decided to take a little page out of Dave Parker, who did this one time as well, and said something about Edgar Martinez in the previous game, like, just swinging from the heels. They were up for nothing late in the game. And here's this guy trying to tack on, look at him disrespecting us. And he admits, like, no, he wasn't disrespecting us, but I was just trying to find a reason for us to hate the Mariners be mad that day. And he said, this is the quote. This is all you need to know. Number crunchers won't like hearing this, but I've seen those meetings work. I don't know how to quantify it, but I've experienced it. Those things work. Not all the time, but they can't hurt. So he said, is there an autochemistry to getting out of those slumps? I don't know whether it's true or not. You really do hate your opponent. It doesn't matter. That approach can work. You can tell everybody, hey, we're going to go out there and beat their ass today. And that's exactly what the Yankees did. But he's saying that the numbers sometimes can't answer the question. Sometimes it is just one of those. Come from the heart, fire up, you know, your teammates and everybody just lock in a little bit more. And I just don't see the Yankees ever doing that. They all talk it. They all say what they got to say. But in the end, this team might not have that in them, which is why this series against Boston, the two days against. These two games against Tampa mean nothing to me. These four against Boston, they're going to give me all the reason to whether I can think. All right, maybe there's something happening here or. No, see, look, they're the same team.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's why I mentioned, you know, they're only half a game behind the Red Sox right now. It would be if you could win three or four. Obviously, you're having a conversation.
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Alan Hahn
Boston's been. They've been dipping a little bit as well. So, you know, they.
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Peter Rosenberg
But my concern. But my concern with the Stanton thing is, so you don't play him for three days or yesterday. He comes in and pinch hits, Right. But it's Giancarlo Stanton. At any moment, them talking about him having lower body soreness. Okay, he pinched hit yesterday. Yes. You can say they just rested him. This is what makes sense, because he's in the field. You're telling me, Alan, that at any given moment, that can't turn into something worse. And then we're like, oh, we don't have standing.
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Alan Hahn
Of course.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's always on the table.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I completely agree. And that's why, again, like, there's all the reasons to be concerned about when you get to the postseason. And he has been your best offensive weapon in the postseason stint.
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Peter Rosenberg
Although hot take. Although hot take. They're never going to win a World Series if that continues to be the truth.
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Alan Hahn
That's a great point.
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Peter Rosenberg
He cannot. It's great for him. And he gets. He's. He's earned his stripes with Yankee fans. And I think they went from being constantly mad about his contract to being like, that's playoff G. At least he delivers and it's cool. And it got them to a World Series. But for them to win a World Series, we know who has to be the best player on this team.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, of course.
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Peter Rosenberg
And as good as Dan is, it just can't be.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, no. Judge clearly has to be. And then you have again, I mean, you mentioned Bellinger. He's been very good this year. Like, they have some guys that can carry an offense, but I think just equal to the Mets, the bullpen is such a variable. You have no idea what you're getting from game to game. They walk a tightrope. Devin Williams, now, what does he become? Like a six inning guy, seven inning guy? Like at times like you, you want to just say that it's settled in and then you have to remind yourself, no, they're playing, they've played a bad team this weekend. So look, the good news is, is that Volpe's not kicking, not throwing the ball over the field, that they, they have calmed down, that third base is no longer a problem defensively. And that's important. But I, I'm not completely bought in like that. All these moves have suddenly turned them into a true contender. I don't see it. I don't see it. I want to see, but I don't.
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Peter Rosenberg
1-800-919-3776 your thoughts on the Yankees. I don't. The thing is, Alan, though, I just don't see anyone disagreeing with you. I, I don't think you're going to hear from tons of Yankees fans.
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Alan Hahn
Wow, God bless. Thank you, thank you. You're allergic to baseball.
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Peter Rosenberg
You got a drop, guys, it's 422 and Alan delivered. But I just don't think you're gonna get calls from Yankee fans going, oh, you're out of your mind, Alan.
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Alan Hahn
I think the problem, who's defending that, that's what, you know, what you saying it, that's, that's probably what I should be saying here. I'm way too relaxed right now. You could tell I'm very laid back because I'm not really attacking anybody. But who, honestly, who is going to defend the Yankees right now and tell me this is a true contender? Who's going to do that? And give me a reason why I.
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Peter Rosenberg
Keep calling you down and I apologize, Alan, who, who even out there is super emotional right now.
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Alan Hahn
Like, well, you know, it's funny, it's.
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Peter Rosenberg
What we said about seeing a lot of emotion around this team.
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Alan Hahn
What we said about the Giants last year, it's, you become almost numb. You don't care. Like the apathy. And I've always said this as an owner, apathy is the biggest thing. You worry about fans booing. No, that's all right because they care, they're saying something. But when you have the apathy of like what you have in St. Louis when nobody's showing up, nobody's. I don't even want to go to the game. Think about that. I'm so sick of them. I Don't even feel like going to the game. That is the biggest concern now. You don't get that at Yankee Stadium. That still isn't going to happen because Yankee fans, they love this team. You invest in them. You go to games because there are stars and you want to watch them and all that stuff. But when it comes to true belief in October, who is going to argue with me what I'm saying? Not much has changed. Really. Not much has changed. There is still a lot of variables that are in that bullpen. You are getting some guys back. I think, like, Will Warren has been nice. Like, you watch him and you're like, all right, he's holding his own. Schlitler has been a great story. He's holding his own. Max Freed, by the way, that blister, that blister changed his whole season. He was going to win the Cy Young. Now, since the blister that he had, I mean, my God, he still struggles. So it's. It's hard to imagine in October, this all suddenly changes just because they're the Yankees. And I just. I worry about it. I worry about it for them as a team. I like that they're, you know, they're trying to steal bases more. They're trying to be more athletic on the base path. I like that. I don't mind that. It's good. Put pressure on opposing teams, especially opposing pitchers, opposing catchers. Like, that's good. They're trying to. They are trying to change some things, but, my God, there are times where there are at bats where all you need to do is just pop it over the shortstop and score the run from third. And you got guys just swinging up out of their shoes, because that's what we're supposed to do, is hit home runs.
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Peter Rosenberg
All right, we'll talk to you next. 1-800-919-3776. And also we got to talk about the kid for the New York Mets.
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Alan Hahn
Oh, we got a binge. We. We gotta binge.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, we gotta binge first.
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Alan Hahn
We gotta binge, baby.
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Peter Rosenberg
We're gonna binge on football. Take delicious meaty chunks right down our gullet. Then after we binge, we do gotta talk. New York Mets.
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Alan Hahn
Can we just reword that? I'll work on that.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for.
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Don Hahn
Listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. This is the NFL binge.
- [27:54]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, like you dream about. The NFL season is right here, kids. Two weeks from Thursday. They're gonna get the old pig skin on the field. We're gonna run right, we're gonna run left. We're gonna run it down their throat and up. And I don't, I don't know what they say, an old timey football, football, but it's all happening. Let's get into today's NFL binge driven by Ramsey Mazda. With that, I pan the baton to my Fearless producer Anthony Pusick.
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Anthony Pusick
Well, Peter, they didn't have announcers back then because as Don always says, we were in war. Now granted, when football started, I have looked it up, there were no wars, but I'm sure that there was a war that prevented.
- [28:31]
Peter Rosenberg
I love that you've looked that up. I love that you've heard Don say it so many times.
- [28:34]
Anthony Pusick
Me and Jacob looked it up and said what war was going on the year that Don's talking about? He said none.
- [28:39]
Peter Rosenberg
Okay, not there.
- [28:40]
Anthony Pusick
Well, we were at war and that's why the goal posts were in front of the end zone and not the back. This is the NFL binge, everybody. There's no better way to start than that. We mentioned Shador Sanders a little bit today. Dylan Gabriel, the other first, not first round quarterback drafted by the Browns. The quarterback that was drafted earlier by the Browns.
- [29:03]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [29:03]
Anthony Pusick
Actually caught some heat for something he said on WEWS 5 Cleveland. Let's hear it.
- [29:10]
Dylan Gabriel
It's just part of it. You know, there's entertainers and there's competitors and I totally understand that. And my job is to compete and that's what I'm focused on doing. Of course we're doing this mid game, but you know, it's something that I'll get used to and just want to be the best team that I can and create an environment where we can all go do our best work. That's all we want to do.
- [29:29]
Alan Hahn
First of all, Wew that. That sounds like another wrestling circuit. Woos.
- [29:37]
Anthony Pusick
We actually just bought that too, by the way.
- [29:39]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, we have them on the. The app.
- [29:41]
Anthony Pusick
Yes.
- [29:43]
Alan Hahn
Dylan Gabriel kind of showed you how, how he feels about all this. First of all, the Cleveland Browns quarterback situation is a dream scenario for any reporter.
- [29:53]
Anthony Pusick
Well, Joe Flacco starting. We got that going for us.
- [29:55]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, they had to do that, announce him just to get this over with. But Gabriel played okay. It wasn't bad. He played okay and he was feeling himself and so he tried to be funny and didn't really think and now of course it made him look bad. But I, I do think it's much to do about nothing. But it's the interesting choice of word that he had and I love how. How about this, Peter? He. He wanted to make it better by saying no, no, no, I wasn't mocking him for being an entertainer. It's about you guys.
- [30:27]
Anthony Pusick
Oh, we have it.
- [30:28]
Alan Hahn
Want to hear that? Oh, yeah, please. This is.
- [30:31]
Anthony Pusick
Here we go.
- [30:32]
Dylan Gabriel
All you in this room are entertainers and you have a job to do and I respect it. Right I'm a competitor, so I have a job to do as well. And I think, you know, just understanding that that's how I've lived by. And I've said that multiple times, so definitely not a new quote, but something that I've definitely said before.
- [30:49]
Alan Hahn
Play them out, play them out, play.
- [30:50]
Dylan Gabriel
Them out about our team.
- [30:55]
Alan Hahn
See, here's where. Here's where you lost me. And this is. Again, there's. I'm. What's surprising, I'm wondering. Dom would have blown his top if there would have been like. Chuckles, media. Laughter. Right? Because the minute he said, because that's what you guys do. And I respect it. No, you don't. A, that's not what we do. B, you don't respect it. When you say entertainers, you're talking about the talk shows, espn, the debate stuff. You're talking about those guys. You're not talking about us. Because those that are standing before you are covering your team. They deal, in fact. That's what they deal, in fact. And information. And for him to say that as if it's going to make it better and then say, I respect it, he's full of crap. So he just basically created for himself animosity that he doesn't want to deal with. That Cleveland media that, like, I hope that espn, Cleveland, I hope they're shredding this kid now and not saying, oh, it's okay. He was just talking about the media. And anybody in the media that says, that's not me. Yes, it is. He thinks all of you are this. And the fact that he said, I've said this before. Two things. One, you might have said it before, but guess what, Dylan Gabriel, nobody was listening because nobody knows who the hell you are.
- [32:12]
Peter Rosenberg
That's right.
- [32:13]
Alan Hahn
So you saying I said this before also doesn't make it better. It just says, you are a noslam. We're learning this about you.
- [32:20]
Peter Rosenberg
There are so many fails here. I love it. It's like. It's like the fact that he went from saying, I didn't mean it about Shador, I meant it about you. It's like, someone be like, dude, I. No, no, I was not talking about your wife. I was talking about your mother. You're not making it better, dude.
- [32:37]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [32:38]
Peter Rosenberg
And like, you know what, though? In a lot of ways, especially with the quarterback position and how important it is to make the right choices, especially considering. And I know Alan will enjoy this as a fan of him. I said it last week. Shador has done nothing but impress me so far at the podium. You Know that I don't be surprised, guys. I would in my brain when the number is four quarterbacks. I. Dylan Gabriel. I could see it. I could see the number going down to three.
- [33:06]
Anthony Pusick
I don't.
- [33:07]
Alan Hahn
Bad. Interesting.
- [33:08]
Anthony Pusick
I don't necessarily want to defend Gabriel here.
- [33:11]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh but.
- [33:12]
Anthony Pusick
But you have to see where he's coming from in one respect. I mentioned this earlier. He was drafted earlier than Shador.
- [33:21]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [33:21]
Anthony Pusick
All of the attention. Rightfully or wrongfully so, however you want to put it. Because he's a emphatic figure is on Shador and nobody's talking about Dylan Gabriel. So you know, he probably feels away about it.
- [33:35]
Alan Hahn
You know why.
- [33:36]
Anthony Pusick
And said something, albeit probably something he shouldn't have said out loud in front of a camera after he came off the field while Shador is not able to play due to an oblique injury. And now he regrets it. But I could see where he probably feels the way. Hey, listen, I was drafted too.
- [33:52]
Peter Rosenberg
Of course we.
- [33:53]
Anthony Pusick
Of course I could possibly get this backup job.
- [33:55]
Alan Hahn
First of all, dial it down. You were third round pick.
- [33:58]
Anthony Pusick
Okay?
- [33:58]
Alan Hahn
Second of all, the guy that's it has Handor. Has handled himself very comfortably and confidently.
- [34:10]
Anthony Pusick
Agreed.
- [34:10]
Alan Hahn
Publicly agreed.
- [34:11]
Anthony Pusick
Yes.
- [34:11]
Alan Hahn
And your first opportunity to do you decided that I'm gonna be. I'm gonna say something really brash and obnoxious.
- [34:18]
Anthony Pusick
I'm not gonna tell you it's a.
- [34:19]
Alan Hahn
Great look, but think about it. Think about it. Shedor has handled it with class and dignity.
- [34:24]
Anthony Pusick
Yeah.
- [34:25]
Alan Hahn
Everything. And your first opportunity, coming off the one time that everybody was watching you play and you chose to be obnoxious says a lot about you.
- [34:37]
Anthony Pusick
I think he also knows that nobody.
- [34:39]
Alan Hahn
Plus he's also five, six or whatever he is. He's tiny.
- [34:41]
Anthony Pusick
I also believe. I think he knows that nobody believes that he's the better quarterback. And it's just that he was drafted.
- [34:46]
Alan Hahn
I guarantee you he doesn't. Because these guys know, like they're all competitors. I get it. By the way, Peter, you've been in this business a long time and you wouldn't be in the business a long time if you weren't something like this. Don't you love it when an athlete looks at you and goes, you don't know what it is. We're competitors. And you stare at him going, bud, have you seen how far I've gotten in this business? How do you think I got here? Not being competitive? Are you out of your mind? You think competition is just physical? Bud, we all deal with competition, all of us.
- [35:14]
Peter Rosenberg
It's such a great and underrated take.
- [35:18]
Alan Hahn
I can't stand that when they do that. Oh, well, you know, we're competitors. We're. We're out here competing. What do you think we're doing?
- [35:27]
Peter Rosenberg
Last week there was a big story moving around because the great Denzel Washington, Spike Lee movie, highest to lowest, which is out Friday. I can't wait to see it.
- [35:35]
Alan Hahn
Yeah. Yeah.
- [35:36]
Peter Rosenberg
And Denzel had a line about, you know, going after the sports media.
- [35:40]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [35:40]
Peter Rosenberg
Which is super funny because he also was a guest on First Take. Yes, but. Which I thought was interesting, but, you know, everyone was. I don't. I don't mind that Denzel said it's, you know, whatever. He's an actor. He's not in this world. But he basically did sort of the old, you know, if you can't.
- [35:57]
Alan Hahn
Oh, no, it's the. Those who can't, do. Yeah, those who can't do, teachers and.
- [36:00]
Peter Rosenberg
Those who can't do, do.
- [36:02]
Alan Hahn
Yeah, yeah, do.
- [36:04]
Peter Rosenberg
Talk. Whatever it is. And it's like, wait, wait. Did it ever cross your mind that some of the people talking, what they can do is talk? It wasn't that they failed as athletes. It's that they wanted to talk and entertain. I. Well, it really is. So it's such an interesting point to act as if there's no competition, no one can understand.
- [36:26]
Alan Hahn
Oh, my God.
- [36:26]
Peter Rosenberg
Goes through. You know, they're the only ones you care about competing.
- [36:29]
Alan Hahn
You guys just. Do. You guys just wake up and say, hey, I want to. I want to be on first take. And you just walk in and they go, yeah, here's your seat. Yeah, dude.
- [36:37]
Peter Rosenberg
No. And by the way, there's no. There's no. There's no. Salary isn't delineated by anything. It's communism. We all get a hundred dollars a day.
- [36:45]
Alan Hahn
Yep. That's it. It's. It's. It's so easy.
- [36:47]
Peter Rosenberg
No, I keep binging. Keep binging.
- [36:50]
Alan Hahn
This was a good topic, though.
- [36:51]
Anthony Pusick
Well, it's. There's a couple of interesting things I want to get to here. Alan, we've been talking about. Remember? And you were here for this. This is when we were all together.
- [36:59]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [37:00]
Anthony Pusick
The first ever time. There was a little sprinkle of Terry McLaurin possibly. I don't know if he's gonna. And Peter said, I'm not worried about it.
- [37:06]
Peter Rosenberg
Why did it just become Spike and St. Pete discussing, by the way?
- [37:09]
Anthony Pusick
He's still not worried about it. However, a team that should be worried is the Bengals.
- [37:14]
Peter Rosenberg
Why?
- [37:15]
Anthony Pusick
Because the Trey Hendrickson thing, that's not going anywhere anytime soon. And now, apparently they are listening to offers for their star defensive lineman Dan Orlovsky on first take saying Bengals need him.
- [37:28]
Dan Orlovsky
I firmly believe that no player outside of quarterbacks can change the variance of the four and ceiling to their team like Trey Hendrickson can for the better. The Bengals, without him, I do not believe they're a playoff team. This was their best defender last year, Trey Hendrickson on the historically bad defense. To remind everybody, this is a team that won three and four last year. Three wins, four losses. When they scored 33 or more points, the rest of the NFL went 79, 7. In that regard, they're the first defense and team in the history of the NFL to lose four games in a season when they scored 33 or more points.
- [38:03]
Peter Rosenberg
Points.
- [38:03]
Dan Orlovsky
So we're talking about taking the best player off of a defense that was bad. So without him, I do not think that they're a playoff team with him. I think they can win super bowl because the offense is that good. So we're talking about a variance of. Michael Parsons is going to impact. Yes, no question. Slightly, in my opinion. McLaren, I think Washington takes a big step back, but I don't think Washington is a legit super because Joe and Jamar and T are so good. This is a Super bowl contender if they're on, but without them, they're not a playoff team.
- [38:30]
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, I know how we emphasize a great defender up front. I'm so aware of what that means. But, but Allen, super bowl to. No, I don't, I don't know. I mean, maybe every, every piece helps, right?
- [38:43]
Anthony Pusick
Because remember, they were bad last year.
- [38:45]
Peter Rosenberg
With them, but that's, they had him healthy all last season.
- [38:48]
Alan Hahn
You also got to keep Burrow healthy.
- [38:50]
Anthony Pusick
That, that, that doesn't hurt.
- [38:51]
Alan Hahn
And that offensive line garbage.
- [38:54]
Peter Rosenberg
So I, I, that's, it's a, it's a big take. That's a big old.
- [38:57]
Alan Hahn
But, but I will, I will agree, though. The Bengals are notoriously cheap. Notoriously cheap. Like, why are you being cheap with this guy? Like, just sign him. You know you're gonna have to sign. There is no winning this. What, what's the win that? He takes a little less than, than, than he wanted. Then what now you got a disgruntled, unhappy player. You got a guy that knows the franchise doesn't value me at all. They value Joe Burrow and no one else. And they clearly don't value Joe Burrow that much because they aren't spending a ton on the offensive line. They can't get it right.
- [39:33]
Peter Rosenberg
Again, this is, Windows are always closing.
- [39:35]
Alan Hahn
Oh, no, that's a great point. And here's, here's all that matters. Now, if I am Cincinnati, my biggest concern is about how much longer Joe Burrow will put up with this crap because it might be Trey Hendrickson and that's on the defense. And if you, you know. Oh, it doesn't affect. Oh, it does.
- [39:54]
Anthony Pusick
Oh, you missed this. While you were away, we did a deep dive into Jamar Chase on the K. Adams show.
- [40:01]
Peter Rosenberg
This may, this may take us through the rest of the show.
- [40:04]
Alan Hahn
What is this?
- [40:05]
Anthony Pusick
I got, I got to find it, but.
- [40:07]
Peter Rosenberg
All right, we'll do when we come back. You should hear it, though.
- [40:09]
Anthony Pusick
Oh, and by the way, Washington Commanders running back Brian Robinson, he's not going to play tonight, Peter, because he's probably going to get traded. I just wanted to throw that one in there before we closed out.
- [40:18]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not exactly understanding what's going on with that. I like B. Rob a lot. I don't see what. I don't. Maybe they're not seeing something in camp.
- [40:24]
Alan Hahn
But by the way, I don't know.
- [40:26]
Peter Rosenberg
Tinkering with an offense that was pretty good. I don't know.
- [40:28]
Alan Hahn
The, the Bengals, by the way, according to ESPN Bet, are equal with the commanders when it comes to super bowl odds.
- [40:38]
Anthony Pusick
Both teams with contract issues plus 1800.
- [40:42]
Alan Hahn
And only they are. I believe it's sixth. Yeah. They're both tied six highest odds.
- [40:50]
Anthony Pusick
So I think this is good. When we get back, we'll have the Jamar Chase and the Joe Burrow in their first preseason game and Alan will get to react to it for the first time. Peter, he was disconnected. He did not hear any of this.
- [41:02]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm excited for him to hear it. It's very. It is.
- [41:04]
Alan Hahn
Let's go.
- [41:04]
Peter Rosenberg
Interesting. A piece of audio, as you'll hear. 109-19-3776. Any football thoughts you have, by the way, guys, I'm telling you right now, this is the time of year in mid August when if you're a fan of a team in another market that you know, we don't ever talk about when it comes to football, Mondays and Fridays because we're so deep in jets and Giants, you want to talk about your team, it's a great time to call us up. Talk your ish.
- [41:25]
Alan Hahn
No, your team stinks. Exactly.
- [41:28]
Anthony Pusick
Peter. I think you'd be responsible.
- [41:30]
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'm going to close out. I'm going to close it all out first because it's kind of man I am. The NFL binge, of course, was driven by Ramsey Mazda and it's the experience of driving a new Mazda and buying a new Mazda from Ramsey Mazda. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. How'd that make you feel, Anthony? Good, right?
- [41:46]
Anthony Pusick
I feel really good about it.
- [41:49]
Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [41:52]
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [41:54]
Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
- [42:01]
Peter Rosenberg
All right. It is Don Han and Rosenberg. It is.it's Alan Hahn. It's Peter Rosenberg.
- [42:08]
Alan Hahn
Yes, it is.
- [42:08]
Peter Rosenberg
On assignment.
- [42:10]
Alan Hahn
You have the Survivor pool information?
- [42:13]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I do. But you want to do it. If you feel excited about, you should do it.
- [42:16]
Alan Hahn
No, I just wanted to remind you.
- [42:18]
Peter Rosenberg
No, you said it. You should do it.
- [42:20]
Alan Hahn
I really don't want to do it.
- [42:21]
Peter Rosenberg
All right. Call them all. Football fans, enter the ESPN New York voice.
- [42:26]
Alan Hahn
Come on.
- [42:27]
Peter Rosenberg
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- [43:04]
Alan Hahn
Said you'll be eliminated in that voice, it definitely sounded like death was a possibility. See, right in that voice. Why does it sound so sinister? But be careful. One wrong pick and you'll be eliminated. I don't want to be eliminated.
- [43:22]
Peter Rosenberg
I know. It's like squid games. All right, let's, let's, let's. Anthony, you got the old, the. You guys got the audio queued up there of Jamar Chase?
- [43:30]
Anthony Pusick
Oh, of course.
- [43:31]
Peter Rosenberg
So Jamar Chase is on with K. Adams. Now, I want to tell you real quick what you're listening to. Allen. You're going to think that when he's keeping all that, when he's heaping all the praise, you're going to assume he's heaping it on his quarterback, Joe Burrow. But listen closely. He's actually heaping it on Josh Allen. And Kay Adams tries to sort of jump in, but, like, just, just listen.
- [43:57]
Jamar Chase
Honestly, I feel like he has it all. The timing, the accuracy, the placement, the speed, the awareness.
- [44:04]
Peter Rosenberg
He has it all.
- [44:05]
Jamar Chase
The field recognition. I mean, what else he. He audibles in the backfield. I don't.
- [44:09]
Alan Hahn
I mean, well, I get this idea.
- [44:11]
Jamar Chase
It's different from Josh Allen's tape. Completely different. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. People. People game playing against Josh Allen, not against Joe Burrow. They play against his game with us. You know what I'm saying? So that's the difference.
- [44:24]
Alan Hahn
Whoa, take it in.
- [44:27]
Peter Rosenberg
They don't game plan against Joe Burrow.
- [44:30]
Alan Hahn
Not against his weapons.
- [44:31]
Peter Rosenberg
They game plan against his right weapons.
- [44:34]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [44:35]
Peter Rosenberg
Can you.
- [44:36]
Alan Hahn
Well, you know what he's doing there?
- [44:38]
Peter Rosenberg
Bearing his quarterback.
- [44:39]
Alan Hahn
No, no. It's also. That's why I'm over.
- [44:41]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [44:42]
Alan Hahn
Me and T. Like, this is why. This is why we're important. That's why you got to pay us.
- [44:46]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Because our quarterbacks. Whatever.
- [44:48]
Alan Hahn
Because he's, you know, he's just an arm.
- [44:49]
Peter Rosenberg
Not Josh Allen.
- [44:51]
Alan Hahn
You're not seeing Joe Burrow scampering around, just jumping over people. It doesn't sound like that. He's saying, like, we are, like. Like we're the reasons why he is who he is.
- [45:02]
Peter Rosenberg
Sure.
- [45:03]
Alan Hahn
Josh Allen is the be all end all of that team.
- [45:05]
Peter Rosenberg
I can't believe that he does it and completely buries now.
- [45:13]
Alan Hahn
They gave him $160 million, so he's definitely feeling himself proven his contract. Like, that's what. It's definitely sounding like that. Now. These guys go back to college like they. They're boys. All right, so the audio.
- [45:28]
Peter Rosenberg
Do you have the audio of Joe Burrow now? All right, so then Burrow. This is what Burrow was asked about the. The game, the touchdown to Chase.
- [45:37]
Alan Hahn
Yep.
- [45:37]
Dylan Gabriel
It was a good rep. Unbelievable play by him. Obviously, he makes that play consistently. So just try to get that guy the ball. You got two really good players, and, you know, sometimes the simple plays are the. The ones that are the best because you. You rep them so many times, you know all the nuances to them.
- [45:54]
Alan Hahn
What's wrong?
- [45:54]
Peter Rosenberg
Did you hear anything there now? Do you. Do you think there's anything there responding or. No.
- [45:59]
Alan Hahn
Did you guys hear anything there?
- [46:02]
Peter Rosenberg
We dug into it. We spent some time breaking it down.
- [46:05]
Alan Hahn
And we found some time together.
- [46:06]
Anthony Pusick
Nobody did but me.
- [46:07]
Peter Rosenberg
All right, Anthony, give him your explanation. I thought it was decent.
- [46:11]
Anthony Pusick
What I said was, you heard what Jamar Chase said about how Allen could do so many different things. He could. He's mobile. He could throw on the run. And then you hear Burrow a day or two later, say, in his press conference on a touchdown.
- [46:25]
Alan Hahn
2.
- [46:25]
Anthony Pusick
Chase. Sometimes the simpler plays are the ones that you have to make. So, yeah, I may not be as flashy as Josh Allen, but I'm still getting you the football, and I'm still throwing you touchdowns.
- [46:36]
Alan Hahn
And, oh, by the way, I beat Patrick Mahomes. How's that guy doing? That's the only flex you need. So I didn't. All right. Yeah, you really gotta. You gotta. You really gotta slow down the film to see the. The second shooter. If you really, really want to believe in the conspiracy here. A burrow throwing shade back by just giving you that little, like, you know. Well, sometimes you keep it simple. That's the best way to win. I don't have to jump over a linebacker. I'll throw it right in the window. But I think Chase was making a point of why he got paid. This is why I'm getting paid. This is why Buffalo doesn't invest in wide receivers. Right? I think that's what he's doing there, and I think.
- [47:29]
Peter Rosenberg
So it's a shot at the wide receivers. They don't have good weapons there. They do. So it's. It's a. It's. It's like a triple whammy.
- [47:35]
Alan Hahn
It's like. It's like. It's like Josh Allen is everything. Is their whole offense. Whereas here, Burrows, weapons are what you worry about because he's got so many and he can use them. That's what I read. I wasn't reading Jamar Chase throwing shade at Joe Burrow. I think what he was saying was Buffalo doesn't. They don't invest in wide receivers. They don't invest in weapons. They just. Everything has to run orbit. This one guy. Whereas our guy has these weapons and he knows how to use them.
- [48:08]
Peter Rosenberg
Either way, it's. It's a pretty crazy back and forth. How.
- [48:12]
Alan Hahn
How big did this get? Did this get? I don't know the story.
- [48:16]
Peter Rosenberg
No, not huge.
- [48:16]
Alan Hahn
Did anybody have to answer it? Did. Did Jamar Chase have to, you know, Mayor Copa, this thing?
- [48:22]
Peter Rosenberg
We never found that, right, guys? There was never a direct. Was there ever a direct response by either?
- [48:26]
Anthony Pusick
I didn't see any.
- [48:28]
Peter Rosenberg
Not that we saw.
- [48:29]
Alan Hahn
So they didn't make it a big deal there. Although there's plenty of controversy going around in Cincinnati right now.
- [48:34]
Peter Rosenberg
I'll tell you what, though, if that. If that happened here, oh, my God, forget it. Can you imagine if Malik Neighbors, if things looked really good in two years right, between Jackson Dart, Malik Neighbors? And he was like, well, listen, team's got a game plan for Jaden Daniels, you know, but with. So with Jackson Dart, it's about his weapon.
- [48:52]
Alan Hahn
So I'm reading just to see if there's anything that followed up earlier, right before this cut, when talking about Burrow, he said, I feel like he has it all the time in the accuracy, the placement, the speed, the awareness he has it. Field recognition. I mean what else? He audibles the backfield. So he's talking about how great Burrow is as a true quarterback. Whereas again, I think what he was saying about Josh Allen is like he's, he's the whole. He is the system. It's almost like you could say it's like Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson. You game plan for Lamar Jackson because you know, take him out. The weapons aren't going to beat you.
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Peter Rosenberg
That is true.
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Alan Hahn
Whereas the, the Bengals off.
- [49:33]
Peter Rosenberg
Clumsy as hell. Maybe it was just clumsy as hell.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I think it was.
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Peter Rosenberg
And, and maybe privately he was like, dude, I did not mean it.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I'm sorry I wet blanketed that. But I, I did not get the same read you did.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, that's. You know what, that's a good, that's a good wet blanket. I think it needed it. I still think it may not be true, but I appreciate the effort either way. We're going to continue this conversation, talk more about the foosball. The, the, the, the baseball. We have to after five talk about the New York Mets.
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Alan Hahn
Yes.
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Peter Rosenberg
Who did, who did have a good weekend and certainly saw something very promising. And also can we please get into this baseball realignment conversation?
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Alan Hahn
This, I will say this right away would be the dumbest thing and this is saying a lot that Rob Manfred would ever do and that's saying a lot.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
- [51:13]
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to know how the.
- [51:14]
Alan Hahn
Sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good.
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Don Hahn
Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.