Hour 2: Yankees & Talk About It

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 2: Yankees & Talk About It

Release Date: August 5, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

In the second hour of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, hosts Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg delve into a variety of engaging topics ranging from personal health updates to in-depth sports analysis and cultural discussions. This episode, titled "Yankees & Talk About It," offers listeners a rich blend of sports commentary, personal anecdotes, and thoughtful insights.

1. Personal Health Update: Peter's Knee Injury

The episode kicks off with Peter Rosenberg discussing his recent knee injury, providing a candid update on his recovery process.

• Peter Rosenberg [01:10]: “When I woke up, I naturally started making some adjustments in bed and I was like, oh, I'm moving it easier... It feels like it's trending the right way.”

• Chauncey [01:49]: “I'm glad it's getting better, which gives me an opportunity.”

Peter elaborates on the severity of his injury, his reluctance towards surgery, and the impact it has had on his daily activities. He shares a humorous yet reflective comparison to his aging dog, highlighting the universal struggle with physical decline.

• Peter Rosenberg [04:45]: “Is it fair to say you're jumping up the stairs? You know, game you play at work is done. Like, it's cooked. It's over.”

2. Listener Call-Ins: Yankees and Mets Analysis

The conversation transitions to listener interactions, with Ty Butler receiving calls from fans like Earl to discuss the current state of the New York Yankees and Mets.

• Ty Butler [07:00]: “We can't bring all that up. The Yankees are good enough to win right now. Let's be specific. How did they lose the game yesterday?”

Earl Butler criticizes the Yankees' bullpen management, specifically questioning the decision to overly rely on closer Devin Williams.

• Ty Butler [07:49]: “If it's not working, like Einstein. To try to repeat something that doesn't work is insanity. Just try.”

• Chauncey [13:04]: “If Tom Gordon were rolling, should Joe Capozzi have decided not to bring in Mariano Rivera because Tom Gordon's pitching?”

The hosts engage in a robust discussion about managerial strategies, pitcher utilization, and the broader implications of analytics in modern baseball.

3. WWE Segment: Engaging with Kadeem

Shifting gears, the hosts take a moment to interact with Kadeem, a listener interested in getting back into WWE fandom. Peter Rosenberg provides an enthusiastic endorsement of Rhea Ripley, one of WWE's standout stars.

• Peter Rosenberg [15:03]: “Imagine if China was like, how can I say this delicately? Imagine if China had a bit of a softer look. Shall I say, Rhea is beautiful and also really intimidating.”

He compares Ripley's charisma and athleticism to iconic WWE figures, emphasizing her impact on the current state of wrestling entertainment.

4. WNBA Toxic Culture and Disrespectful Incidents

A significant portion of the discussion addresses recent troubling events in the WNBA, where individuals have thrown sexual objects onto the court, reflecting a broader issue of toxicity and disrespect towards women's sports.

• Chauncey [33:36]: “It's become annoying and toxic that we can't even really discuss women's basketball without it being related to something that has nothing to do with women's basketball.”

• Peter Rosenberg [35:02]: “These are obvious not fans of the WNBA who are gonna be upset they can't participate as we continue to talk about it on a Tuesday.”

The hosts express their frustration with the backlash against the WNBA's success, highlighting the disparity between rising league metrics and the persistent negativity from certain fan segments.

• Chauncey [25:45]: “Caitlin Clark as like this superhero who was going to help them... she proved not to be what they wanted her to be.”

They call for stricter measures to prevent such disrespectful behavior, emphasizing the need to protect and honor women's sports leagues.

5. Aging and Physical Decline

Throughout the episode, themes of aging and the accompanying physical and cognitive challenges are humorously yet poignantly explored.

• Peter Rosenberg [31:10]: “The only thing worse than getting old is not getting old. But note, he says the only thing worse, meaning it's the worst. It's getting old is still the worst.”

• Chauncey [33:12]: “You got to hold your weight. My guy. Like, so Allen's got Knicks TV. Don's going to have Devils TV.”

The hosts discuss personal experiences related to aging, including Peter’s knee injury and the cognitive impacts it may signify, while also sharing light-hearted banter about the pitfalls of getting older.

6. Community and Relationships: Don La Greca's Role

Towards the end of the episode, the conversation touches on Don La Greca's involvement with sports broadcasting and his relationships within the industry.

• Peter Rosenberg [43:07]: “What happened? He was pushing boundaries... he's this good. So then when you hear that, not only does he get it, but it's the Devils.”

They celebrate Don's achievements and speculate on his future roles within sports media, underscoring the camaraderie and mutual support among the hosts.

7. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Topics

As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts tease upcoming topics, including a deeper dive into the Yankees' strategies and further discussions on the WNBA.

• Peter Rosenberg [48:19]: “That's going to be tough for you guys moving forward, I think, because that's...”

• Chauncey [49:07]: “It's your shot at greatness.”

They wrap up by encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast through subscriptions and upcoming segments, maintaining an open and interactive dialogue with their audience.

Notable Quotes

• Peter Rosenberg [01:10]: “It feels like it's trending the right way.”
• Ty Butler [07:49]: “Just try.”
• Peter Rosenberg [15:03]: “Rhea is beautiful and also really intimidating.”
• Chauncey [25:45]: “We're not going to turn this into some race war.”
• Peter Rosenberg [31:10]: “It's getting old is still the worst.”
• Peter Rosenberg [35:02]: “These are obvious not fans of the WNBA who are gonna be upset they can't participate as we continue to talk about it on a Tuesday.”

Conclusion

This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" masterfully balances personal stories with critical sports analysis and cultural commentary. The hosts' dynamic interaction and candid discussions provide listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful insights, making it a must-listen for fans of New York sports and beyond.

Transcript

[Ty Butler]

Are you feeling more fulfilled now that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You'Re back to work on August 15th?

[Chauncey]

No, I need a vacation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See the movie that critics are saying.

[Ty Butler]

Is an awesome look at that crowd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pleasing, fist pumping all out brawl of a film.

[Chauncey]

You're right about that. They're coming after our family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go fix this.

[Ty Butler]

Oh my.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nobody 2, rated R. Holding in theaters August 15th. This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. That sounds like heaven to me. Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. Time to wrap the knee again. It's been a while. Tell you what, that Advil's a hell of a drug, guys. That Advil's pretty good. They know what they're doing over there. Took some of that. I think that helps. It is Ty Butler. It is Peter Rosenberg. It is Tuesday, August be birthday to my dear friend Chauncey. It's his birthday today. I know you care about that, Ty.

[Chauncey]

Shout out Chauncey. So this, this knee situation, you said it feels a lot better than it did yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's a lot would be. A lot would be strong. But I would say with this morning, like when I went to bed, I had the feet, you know, I. I had the feeling of whatever, of pain as I went to bed. And when I was moving it as I was trying to sleep, I was like, ah. And when I woke up, I naturally started making some adjustments in bed and I was like, oh, I'm moving it easier, right? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like in the morning when I turned over, turning over was easier. Right now I'm sitting with my legs bent normally, like I'm in a regular chair. It doesn't hurt to have my knee bent right now. Like it's feels like it's trending the right way.

[Chauncey]

I'm glad it's getting better, which gives me an opportunity. And I know we got these phone calls to get to. I was thinking back on, on what happened yesterday, describing you and I just can't believe a grown man is jumping up the stairs. A. A grown man north of 40 years old like that just. And then you had the nerve to ask me. You don't sometimes when you're going to work, jump up the stairs. That's crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's crazy to you that I still.

[Chauncey]

Do it, that you still like. What do you. Why are you jumping upstairs?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can't. It's just a thing.

[Chauncey]

By the way, it's like six stairs. By the way, it's not three stairs. You went Back and investigated. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's hard to not because you.

[Chauncey]

Stare at it when you walk in. And I'm like. I was like. I don't remember it being three stairs, Ty. It's like six stairs. Did you try to do all the stairs?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think, you know, I think my move was from the bottom step, put my left leg up on the third step and then jump to the top step.

[Chauncey]

I don't feel confident that I would want to do that. I just don't understand, like, it's bad decision making, why it's happening, the place that it's happened. Like, if I'm at work and I saw one of my co workers just jumping upstairs, I feel like that's weird. Well, everything about it is crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't do crazy. You don't do anything like that. That's just habit. Like, you just. There's like fizz. Certain physio. So we did the topic today on. On Hot 97. You know, like, call up and tell us how you're washed. And, you know, people's stories are the best. Man. One guy called up. Were you listening to this?

[Chauncey]

I heard. Yeah, I heard the segment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You heard the guy call up and say that he twist the pickle jar. Anthony, this guy calls up and he's like, yeah, someone asked me. He goes, I tried to twist a pickle jar open. I blew out my back. And he's like, I've been opening jars my whole life. I'm the guy people come to to open jars.

[Chauncey]

Yo, what was. Was. Was there someone sneezed or coughed?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, not this time.

[Ty Butler]

But.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But there was last time. One was someone brushing their teeth. She bent over to spit out her. The water in the. In the. In the sink and she couldn't get back up. That was crazy. And then Shawnee reminded me of the time we got a caller who said that they dislocated their jaw chewing Bubblicious. That's a different level.

[Chauncey]

That was the one I was thinking about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that's. That's the highest. That means it's time. Maybe it's time for you to go, you know, maybe it's time to just wrap this whole thing up. So I'm going to get checked out tomorrow. Hopefully I'm on the mend. I really don't feel like surgery. That would not be surgery when you're not an athlete is just pathetic. Like, it's just. Come on, bro.

[Chauncey]

Is it fair to say you're jumping up the stairs? You know, game you play at work is done. Like, it's cooked. It's over.

[Ty Butler]

It.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's cooked. It is. It is fully over. I promise before. I will try my best.

[Chauncey]

This sec. This. This topic. Natalie, the wife, because she's got a ton of responsibilities around the crib, the baby, the dog. She annoyed yet? Or she's still, like, in, you know, caretaker mode?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Natalie, are you annoyed with my injury? She is. She just said yes. Did you hear it?

[Chauncey]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It wasn't even, like. It was, like, low and sad and she sounded annoyed. Yeah, you could hear that. Didn't sound great, as you could tell. So, yeah, women don't have time for their husbands to be injured when there's an infant to be cleaned and bottles to be washed and a dog to be taken out. And you know what I realized? I realized that I pulled a bear. My dog is 15 years old, and he still jumps up and down off the couch. And every time he jumps off the couch, his paws, like, he hits so hard. And I'm always like, my guy. Just like, drop off the couch. You don't need to get air each time you leave the couch. Like, just learn to plop off. But every time he goes up and crashes down, and I am no better than my dog. Like, I'm old. I can't jump stairs. It's over, man.

[Chauncey]

That's a. I'm no better than my dog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am no better than bear the dog. It's a fact.

[Chauncey]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Phone lines completely jammed. You know what? Let's talk to Earl, who wants to talk some. Some Mets, because we can't forget when talking about the Yankees being terrible. We can't forget that the Mets at this moment suck as well. Let's. Let's not leave them out of the conversation, For God's sake. Anthony Pusick sent a picture of the stairs in question to the chat. Natalie, if you want to see the chairs where the damage happened, feel free. Anthony has sent a photo. Maybe we can post that on social media.

[Chauncey]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I guess I jumped to the third step and then took the next jump. Yeah, that's like seven steps. That's stupid.

[Chauncey]

I have to put this. Can we put this on? On. On.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's fire that up. All right, Earl. What's up, man? Let me go. Let me go to Earl. What's up, Earl?

[Ty Butler]

What's up? What's up, Peter? How you doing, Ty? Hey, I just want to talk about the Mets. We. Right now, we're in a. We're in a double. A double thing. We can't hit right now with Runners in scoring position. We can't get nobody out from the pitchers mile. Right now we're in a little funk on both ends, offensively and defensively. But I think as the season wraps up, Mendoza, get the right people in the right situations in the right place, and we'll start driving in the runs and we'll start getting those batters out. You know, the pitches will come around. We got some nice starting pitches. We did some good things on the relief job the last week or so, so I think they've come around. Also, Peter, you're not right for throwing a little. A little curveball at Ty. He's not a substitute teacher.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, you're misunderstanding.

[Ty Butler]

I get you. I know. I. I get you. I get you. But you still put a little curveball in there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But by the way, it wasn't just Ty. It wasn't just Ty. I said it about my co host in the morning, too. It's about it being a softer spot than going back to work.

[Ty Butler]

That comes from you. That comes from you working with. With. With Mike and Don. You know, they always throw those side jokes. Don't. Don't hit time.

[Chauncey]

Didn't it feel a little racial, too?

[Ty Butler]

With your knee?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, Peter. Peter, with your knee? With your knee. Ask the doctor for me. Lexicon. 100 milligrams. Me, Lexicon. I had a hip replacement one year. One year ago. And the lexicon just eases the pain all through the day. So when you go and get the little checkup tomorrow, you probably give you a 50 milligram on my Lexicon or 100 milligrams to see how. Just how bad the pain.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How old are you? How old are you, Earl?

[Ty Butler]

I'm 61. I'll be 62 in October. Basketball. I referee college basketball 15 years, but I still do everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. So is that. Is that how the hip. Is that how you had the hip go pretty early? Because 60 is pretty young for the hip.

[Chauncey]

Is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was it a reffing thing?

[Ty Butler]

No, no, the hip just went away. Went awol when I was stretching, that I was at a school in Chicago, stretching in the locker room. And I just stretched right before the game. And the next morning, I couldn't wake up. I was in Cook County Hospital. The doctor told me I need a hip replacement. And I waited and waited. Got therapy, did therapy for like six months. And then I couldn't take the pain. The pain was this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Damn.

[Ty Butler]

Earl, you know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Appreciate you sharing, because I got to tell you, man, that is a pretty washed story as well. I Mean, my man was stretching, couldn't wake up. The next day, he died. He Earl stretched to death and then literally came out of like a coma and was like, what happened? My hips gone. Yo. My man Earl, that is awoken from.

[Chauncey]

A coma to a different hip. That's crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's so crazy. He went to sleep and then he laid down. Let me stretch out for a second. The next thing he knew, he was going under to lose his hip. That's so insane. 1-800-919-3776 let's go to up it could it be Richard?

[Ty Butler]

Hi, Peter. Hi, Ty. Peter, good to hear that your leg is getting better. That's great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you. I hope so.

[Ty Butler]

And good luck tomorrow when they diagnose it. So that's a great thing you're doing now. Great night last night for New York. First baseman. Seven for 10, four runs scored, five RBIs and two homers. Goldschmidt and Alonso. Now here's the problem with sports talk radio. Something goes wrong with the Yankees and everybody calls up about Steinbrenner, about Kirschman, about Boone and all the past things. You don't bring all that up. The Yankees are good enough to win right now. Let's be specific. How did they lose the game yesterday? They lost the game because they had three relief pitches each coming in. Do a great job. One, two, three, 10 or 11 pitches each. Weaver, Doval and Bednar. And all three times, Boone took him out. Why? Why take him out? They're pitching good. Leave them in. It's not Williams fault that he blew the game. It's the Yankees fault for bringing him in because they didn't need to bring him in. But they have in their mind that he's the closer and the ninth inning he's going to come. Why don't they change the philosophy a little bit? Just try it. Let me go on the bench. I'll tell them who to bring in, who to keep in. Any of those three guys. If you left them in, they could have pitched the second inning just as perfect as the inning before. You only take out a pitcher if he's not pitching. Good. Leave him in. They go to five relief pitchers yesterday, they might have been fine with killing leaf pitchers. We'll never know. Texas didn't knock out the relief pitchers. They did three out of the five. They knocked them out. I don't know why. In their mind, a pitcher could only go one inning. Try it. Just try it. Instead of firing Boone, isn't that easier? Instead of firing Cashmen, isn't it easier just to be specific, game by game?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, Richard, they live for. They live.

[Ty Butler]

They get complicated. We don't need all these changes, all this upheaval. But when you play each game, learn from your mistakes. And they made mistakes yesterday. They took out three pictures who were perfect. But, Richard, does that make sense?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They live for the analytics, Richard. This is what they do.

[Ty Butler]

If it's not working, like Einstein. To try to repeat something that doesn't work is insanity. Just try. And that's why all your callers are talking about Steinbreak, about Cashman, about firing Born Music.

[Chauncey]

Let me ask you a question, Richard. Richard, I have a question for you.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Chauncey]

If Tom Gordon were rolling, should. Should Joe Tory have decided not to bring in Mariano Rivera because Tom Gordon's pitching?

[Ty Butler]

Well, Ty, it depends on that moment. I have to analyze it then. I can't. I don't deal in fantasy. I deal in the specifics of what I saw, Ty, what I saw yesterday, perfect relief pitches.

[Chauncey]

I think we're not the EAs. He's now arguing against how baseball is played, which is not unique to the Yankees. Well, but against closers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But isn't it. Isn't it. In some cases, it's situational. Like. Like when you're talking about pitch count, for example, maybe there is someone who, like, they have a really. They have a really set rule on. That's it. They're not breaking, you know, 30 pitches from so and so. But maybe there's some other pitchers, Ty, where there's some more gray area, and you have guys who are saying, hey, you know, I had another inning in me. But they're like, no, that's not what we do. So maybe there is some flexibility there.

[Chauncey]

But he's going to his closer. You can disagree with Devin Williams being the closer. He's got an ERA north of 5. So I like, that's not good change. Oh, no, that's. That's not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait. I haven't been paying attention for a long time. I know a lot has changed in baseball. How do they feel about the era of over 5?

[Chauncey]

Over 5? Pete Alonzo broke that man last October. So I get if your criticism is, yo, remove the closer title from this guy because he clearly can't handle it. But if we're trying to change how baseball is played and we're saying the manager of the team, Michael K. Always says this, and I 1000% agree. The job of the manager is to turn over a lead to his closer. Once you've done that, you've done your job. Telling the closer to deliver. And last night, Devin Williams did not do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, let's keep talking to the people. Let's go to Kadeem in the car. What's up, Kadeem?

[Ty Butler]

Afternoon, gentlemen. And let me take this moment to welcome back my man, Peter Rosenberg. Good to have you back, brother. We missed you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Kadim. I appreciate you.

[Ty Butler]

I got you, brother. Enough of the New York Yankees. That's depressing. Now, this WWE talk that we've been going on this week is outstanding. It's excellent. I am like Ty, where I grew up in the Attitude era. My Mount Rushmore, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, the Rock, and Stone Cold. So, you know, I haven't been as into it as I, you know, I wanted to since then, because that's what I grew up on. And my friend shared the same sentiment until he went to SummerSlam both nights, Saturday and Sunday. He called me yesterday. He's like, kadeem, we gotta. We gotta get back in. And this is. This is electric. Like, it has to be done. So I'm open to it. And it's someone like yourself, Peter, who is, you know, a savant in the current state of the wwe. If you could just give me a quick elevator pitch to help me kind of get back in it, that'd be appreciated. And lastly, I'm very happy for them. I see her man's. And he would rip me apart like Deadpool. Like Juggernaut did Deadpool in the movie. But if anything is to go awry, okay, you gotta promise me that you tell Rhea Ripley about me. That's all I got.

[Chauncey]

Love, y'.

[Ty Butler]

All.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you, Kadeem. So, I mean, the question is, Kadeem, if you already not only know Rhea Ripley, but you. You want to get in the conversation should her relationship go awry. I don't know why I have to give you an elevator pitch. The Rhea Ripley should be the elevator pitch. And by the way, she would be part of my pitch. For people who haven't watched wrestling. Like, Rhea Ripley is one of the most jump off the page charismatic athletes. Her look is. Had you seen her before this weekend?

[Chauncey]

No, I had not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And did you immediately, like, take notice of her when she popped up?

[Chauncey]

Yeah, because she's got a, you know, she's got a unique look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The only way. The way she's best described by people probably is. Is if you recall China.

[Chauncey]

I was just thinking of China.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Imagine if China was like, how can I say this delicately? Imagine if China had a bit of a softer look. Shall I say, Ria is beautiful and also really intimidating. How about that? Is that a good way describing it?

[Chauncey]

Yeah. I was immediately thinking of China before you said that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Like she. But like, if you. If you watch the show Unreal, it's hard not to fall in love with Rhea Ripley. She is a very lovable person and personality.

[Chauncey]

China. But China had more of a. And I don't mean to speak ill of her, but like more of a meaner personality. Is that fair to say? No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, Ria's been different things, and China was both good and bad at different times. I think. I think China was a little physically, maybe a little rougher around the edges.

[Chauncey]

That's what I'm trying to get to with that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for let's Talk About It. Sponsored by Better Health. Mental health is health. Now, Ty, you wanted to talk about something specifically that I realized had, you know, I hadn't been around for it, but I'd heard some about this subject and felt similarly, I believe, but the floor is yours, my friend.

[Chauncey]

All right, so let's get into this story that's been circulating, that's been talked about, but I haven't really delved into it yet. And it's about these morons throwing, let's call it, sexual objects on these WNBA courts. And people are like, wow, I mean, anything to go viral, like, that's the response. No, this isn't about them going viral. This is, to me, reflective of a more toxic culture that has been created in our society where you really want to take matters into your own hands, showing an entire league how little you think of them in the most obnoxious and offensive way possible. And I think that it's. It's become annoying and toxic that we can't even really discuss. Not that we do a lot but discuss women's basketball without it being related to something that has nothing to do with women's basketball. I just find it weird that there is this growing population of people that are pushing back against the success of the wnba. Like, why does that bother you? It's just odd to me when you go on social media and you see people tweeting out, well, this is how profitable the league has been. Ratings are up, attendance numbers. You go into the comments and it's all discourse, it's all pushing back against it, and I just can't quite understand it, like, doing everything in your power to discredit the prosperity that they've experienced. And now it culminates in an incident, a multiple incidents, where you're throwing sexual objects on the court. Like, this is where we've gotten. Where you're comfortable showing paying money to go to a WNBA game and doing that. It's just. It's crazy to me. Like, where do you draw the line? Are we going to start doing this in the high school women's games? Middle school women's games? It's crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I. And I saw that the. The. The threat back was like, you know, lifetime suspension from going to games. You. You need to come up with a threat for these people that has meaning, because it's not like they were like, oh, I love the league. It's just every once in a while, I get the desire to express my love for the league by throwing a sex toy on the floor. No. So you have to get the buildings that house the games to really lay down the law so people don't show up to do this. Because the fact of the matter is, Ty, you have to be a complete and utter psychopath to want to do that, to want to show up and show disrespect to this league. Like, do these people not have any women in their lives that they care about? You don't want your daughter to be able to see women playing a game. Also, they have to just view everything as sports is something for men. What is going on? And by the way, us just having the conversation. I can hear the keyboards clicking now. Oh, Ty and Rosenberg had to get woke and start telling us to not hate the wnba. God forbid. Now they finally have some marquee stars. And of course, they've had stars in the league before, and hall of Fame players, Olympic heroes, all those things. But they now have marquee stars who transcend the sports. Hardcore fans. And now, Ty, is when you're getting the real. The hate, because there are these transcendent stars that you can really talk about that people know, you know. So now here comes the hate.

[Chauncey]

Listen, I'm trying my best to be disciplined here. That those clowns who would type on their keyboards, engaging in the whole, you know, these guys are woke. Listen, you know what woke is banning textbooks that. That teach American history. But we won't go there. What I find to be interesting is there are a lot of people who looked at Caitlin Clark as like this superhero who was going to help them like, like, weaponize their attack. And then she proved not to be what they wanted her to be. Like, they were over protecting her because they felt like this was going to be our weapon. This was our ammunition to fight back against that, you know, that black league. And she was like, nah, we're here to play ball. We're all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I love this league. I love the players that built this league. And I'm just happy to be part of it.

[Chauncey]

I'm a part of it. Yes, I can be the face of it. It's all well and good, but we're not going to turn this into some race war.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's a very interesting point, though. It's like people thought they were going to have one angle of hate, and that didn't work. So, like, you know what? Just go to the store, get some sex toys, throw them on the court. We got to do something. We have to hate on this league somehow.

[Chauncey]

Nuts. And this dude got arrested. You're going to jail. Do it like you're willing to risk going to jail.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Your kid is gonna have. One day, your kid is gonna have to explain to friends. My dad was arrested for what? Well, you remember the story about the sex toys getting thrown on the floor? Yeah. My dad, he. He spent your family's money on sex toys to throw at a basketball court. Now, it's. It's. It's. It is. It is wild. It is. We. We are living in. In wild times. It's funny because we just got the call from the Kadeem, who was talking about Rhea Ripley, and I was telling you how, like, how great she is. You know, that has been a really cool thing to see develop in WWE over the last few years. Like, I. I've been a really huge active fan, obviously, when I was a little kid. Then I came back around in 05, and I was a fan of WWE when the women. The main way they used the women were to basically just be half naked and do silly things as an excuse to just get men to keep their eyes on the tv. And I watched the women's evolution become this thing now where the women's matches and the character of the women is a huge deal that people legitimately admire. And it is so cool being there and seeing all the little girls dressed up as their favorite, like, superheroes, essentially. And all you have to do is go back 15 years, and if your daughter wanted to dress up as one of the divas, you'd be like, over my dead body.

[Chauncey]

Lita.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Lita's different, though. Lita. Lita was actually pushing boundaries in terms of, like, well, A, being a great wrestler and B, like, having her own style. She just did it with a thong sticking out of the back, but that was a different vibe.

[Chauncey]

Her pants was pulled down a little bit. But the Trish Stratuses are the worst world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And although, listen, God bless Trish. Great, you know, great talent. But, yes, the characters that she played and the looks that a lot of them had to have. So to now have women in different positions, I just never. Now that I have a daughter, it just hits so different. Like, I used to always appreciate it you guys know me. But having a daughter, I want my daughter to be able to aspire to play basketball. And, you know, whether that means she becomes a big Knicks fan or a big Liberty fan or both, I don't really care. But to know that the option is there, that it's something you could reasonably pursue, and to see that the league gets more and more interesting, particularly here in New York, where the Liberty do this one thing that other teams can't do here, and that's called win a champion.

[Chauncey]

And look, just to be candid, I'm not here being fraudulent and saying, like, I'm the world's biggest WNBA fan and, you know, you're going to see me tweeting about it 24 7. All I'm asking for is to not live with such hatred for a basketball league that we show up with sex objects and throw it on the court and then risk being arrested. I just think that that's stupid. I know that's a hot take, but that's dumb.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I. And I do. And I really do think it has to be a. You know, someone wrote, y' all need to get a sense of humor.

[Chauncey]

Oh, that's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's really how you view humor, that you really thought it was just a great joke? It's a great going joke that people have. You don't think there's anything loaded into people doing what they're doing?

[Chauncey]

Wait, fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe.

[Chauncey]

Says, when he says y', all, is he talking about the officers who arrested this dude? Because I would imagine those officers don't have the same humor he's asking us to have because that dude got put in jail. He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he was hauled off in cuffs. And it needs to go beyond ban of the league. It has to be ban of the buildings overall, because. I'm sorry, it's obvious. These are obvious not fans of the WNBA who are gonna be upset they can't participate as we continue to talk about it on a Tuesday. I'm just. I'm just tired of getting old. This is. This is. This is. I'm, as in Jay Z once wisely said, the only thing worse than getting old is not getting old. But note, he says the only thing worse, meaning it's the worst. It's getting old is still the worst. And you really. You don't realize it, Ty. It hits you quick. And listen, I know you're having a physical renaissance. You're running half marathons. You're in the gym at 5am every day. And it's great, and I hope it lasts a Lifetime. And even if it does last a lifetime, you're still gonna have that moment when you go, whoops. Something that was so easy that you completely took for granted in your teens, your 20s. Because, Ty, you're 32. Is that right?

[Chauncey]

Yeah, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't welcome you to the Washed club until you crack at least that 35th birthday.

[Chauncey]

I was gonna ask you, like, what number? Like, where's that line of demarcation where you really start to notice it, where it's not like, you know, it becomes obvious like you've arrived.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's a great question. And I'd be curious for, like, listeners to weigh in on when they felt like this was the age when they could no longer do the things that they used to do or at least had to be mindful. I think late 30s is when it starts to, like, kick in. I mean, you might already have a moment now where, like, you know, I don't know. Are you. I know that you do a lot of working out. Are you playing ball?

[Chauncey]

Nah, but see, but the reason why I don't play ball is because of things that happened to you yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's what I was gonna say.

[Chauncey]

I'm so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That.

[Ty Butler]

That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that can happen even in your early 30s. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah.

[Chauncey]

I don't think we can count yesterday. I saw those stairs. That was just a bad idea. But it was just. That would have been a bad idea. At 25, that would have been a bad idea. 35, it's definitely a bad idea.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now that's a lot of stairs, by the way. This is a very interesting take. So Anthony is saying I'm actually maybe not as washed as I think. I'm also dumber than I think. No, no, no.

[Chauncey]

Which might be a win. You can't count stairs. That's a big problem.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I heard three stairs yesterday.

[Chauncey]

There's like seven. How did you get that wrong? And so significantly wrong. Cuz now no one's clowning you for this. No, I'm not clowning you for getting hurt on those stairs. Yo, my guy, you said three stairs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is there any chance that they have security cameras that make it to those stairs? I'd love if it was. Could someone ask? We need someone to go down and ask. Is there. Because I can give you the exact time. I mean, they could find it in two minutes.

[Chauncey]

Anthony, I need you back for a moment. I'm over here because we're a family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chauncey]

This is what. Once the symptoms start, you begin asking questions. So this man yesterday couldn't also Also couldn't figure out the floor we worked on that was a problem. Now he's not remembering the amount of stairs. So this could be a sign of a bigger issue. This is all perfect for talk about it because the getting old part, I just don't think, as you pointed out, Ty, you might be right. The injury is the least concerning of the things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the cognitive.

[Chauncey]

I didn't know what floor we were on. I didn't know how many stairs there were. That's a big problem. It's. There's a lot going on here. So there might be some cognitive decline that is just kind of being masked by this whole knee injury we've uncovered something else is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is worrisome. I do want to find that if our building has security footage, because I'd like to see what I did. It felt like I did a stutter step. Do you know what the real truth is, though, guys? My thought is coming off of a month of vacation where I was like, I'm going to be healthy for all of vacation. I wasn't. I was eating loosely. I probably gained, if I'm being realistic, probably gained 5, 6 pounds. It's possible over a month, especially two weeks when you're out eating every meal out of the house. Granted, the food is a lot healthier in Europe, but I was still eating lots of it. Plus, I'm drinking, you know, I'm having. You're having to. Yo, guys, when you're. I was on vacation. I don't know how you guys get down on vacation. I'm order. We're walking everywhere. So I'm ordering drinks at every meal. There's just extra calories, right. I wonder if it was just the knee being like, hey, ho, my man. You put a lot of weight on these things.

[Chauncey]

Like, we're trying to affect your brain.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you still think it's the choice.

[Chauncey]

You didn't sleep. That didn't help.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, by the way, that is true. I was legitimately. I was not in a great place emotionally. Yesterday before the show, I was clearly. Yeah, I was mentally completely fried. Because, like, have you guys ever had the feeling most people would want to say this publicly, but this is what separates me. You ever had moments when you really haven't slept and you literally feel like a baby? Like, little things affect you to the point that you're, like, about to break down?

[Chauncey]

Yeah. Well, you're just overtired. It's like the slightest inconvenience is going to be a big problem for you that day. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if you get into an argument with anyone or you're feeling anything emotionally, it's like deeply affecting in a way that you're like, I just need to sleep. That's sort of the place I was in. And oddly, I guess that was maybe part of the decision making. Like, why would I have done a double jump up seven stairs? And here we are. And now I'm going to be missed for the playoffs as we get. It's unfortunate. This is one of those things, you know, like when your favorite player, your favorite team is missing a player. What happened? Oh, they were playing around with a remote control helicopter and they, and they cut their finger.

[Chauncey]

Ironically, this happened to Aaron Boone. Oh, man. That's the a. That's how a Rod got got here. That's the story of a Rod's Yankees genesis. They voided his contract because he got hurt playing pickup basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But no, wasn't it beach volleyball? Was it beat it? Was it. I thought it was.

[Chauncey]

I thought it was basketball. I thought.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think you're right.

[Chauncey]

I thought it was a trampoline. He walked in and said the knee was barky.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, the knees bark. No, let me tell you, the knees barky. I certainly for the first time in my life. All right, we got to get some specification on the injury to Aaron Boone from 25 years ago.

[Chauncey]

That number.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Chauncey]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. You know Funk Flex is getting the key to New York on Thursday.

[Chauncey]

Yeah, I heard about that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pretty cool show up there too. Us in Orchard Beach. I think Rakim, epmd and a Boogie sounded pretty cool actually.

[Chauncey]

You pulling up?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I'm gonna be doing this fine show with you as the issue.

[Chauncey]

Oh, so you feel like I'm in the way of you wanting to do something?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't say you. No, the show. Well, are you. You're like becoming the new Alan Hahn.

[Chauncey]

No, I'm playing that. I promise you. I'm just playing that role. I'm just playing that role.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You play it really well.

[Chauncey]

I'm just playing that role.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now before we, before we talk to the people more and do some more of the baseball, which people are very motivated on 1-800-919-3776 is a Boone is a Cashman. What the hell's going on with the New York Mets? It's all there for you. Whatever you want to talk about.

[Chauncey]

Pick up basketball, by the way, my man Chan just hit me was pick up basketball for Boone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was basketball. Okay. Before we do that though, you have any concerns about the the jets so far in in preseason?

[Chauncey]

Listen, it's not great when you follow the reporters on Twitter and they're detailing how back to back practices Justin Fields has looked awful. I don't think that's good. Great. Especially for an offense that we watched the last what decade be putrid outside of the Fitzpatrick year. So look, I'm not heading into the season with high expectations, but the like. Would I be excited if I heard he was doing great? Of course. So I guess the flip side to that is am I down to hear that he's been awful then I guess I have to be right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you want to hear from Aaron Glenn?

[Chauncey]

Sure, let's do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, here's Glenn on field again as far as the way his command.

[Ty Butler]

Was of the offense and know exactly what to do was outstanding.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Some of his throws wasn't on point.

[Ty Butler]

All right. But again, a lot of them were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

On point, and guys got to make plays for him, too. So that kind of showed up today, and we got to get ready to fix those things.

[Ty Butler]

So it goes hand in hand with quarterback and receivers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He has to deliver the ball, and.

[Ty Butler]

They have to catch it.

[Chauncey]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You hear that?

[Chauncey]

Strong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You hear what he said?

[Chauncey]

Very strong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So they have to catch it, too.

[Chauncey]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not just one.

[Chauncey]

Now, when. Whenever you're hosting shows, right, and you ask a person, do you want to hear audio? Has the person ever said no?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Don.

[Chauncey]

Every time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you mean? What Don? Don would have said no just then. He would have said, I'm good.

[Chauncey]

Did you guys just don't play it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It depends. Sometimes I go, really? And then sometimes I go, all right, Peter.

[Chauncey]

Well, I feel bad, and I just curl up in a ball, and I don't play the audio. Wait, Don's anti audio and anti guest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Chauncey]

Don just wants to talk to you. I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don just wants to talk.

[Chauncey]

I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don wants to have the whole experience. Can you believe, by the way, Don voice of the New Jersey Devils.

[Chauncey]

Yeah. We didn't text me back when I congratulated him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's tough, by the way.

[Chauncey]

That's it. That's a rough one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's gonna be tough for you guys moving forward, I think, because that's.

[Chauncey]

Which is crazy, because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can you read the text? Do you read us the text? Because that's probably. I'll rate the tech because maybe it's really. Let me hear it. Because maybe I won't even think it's worth replying to, respectfully.

[Chauncey]

So just to back up a little bit, he congratulated me on getting the S and Y gig. So I said, thanks, man. Couple weeks later, I say, congratulations, my man. Four exclamation points. That is fantastic. You're gonna crush it. Awesome, man. So thrilled for you, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, Anthony. My early thought is that's a pretty strong. That's a strong text. There's emotion built in there. That's not just a Congrats, man.

[Chauncey]

Ty thought that they had something going there. I thought we had something going, and the relationship was not exactly what he thought it was. Yeah, Come and I messed around and.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Found out, and that is just nothing. Eggs.

[Chauncey]

Just no response to this day because I'm, like, legitimately happy for him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was. It was truly about as happy. And I think Michael said the exact same thing. I texted K. I was like, can you Believe it about Don, how I said. I think I said, how happy are you? And I think Michael said, I'm as happy as I could be for anybody. Not me.

[Chauncey]

That is such a Michael text.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? Which, by the way, is exactly what Anthony and I both said also. But coming from Michael, it's just so on brand. It hits different from Michael because we know he's always rooting for him. But I just. It's like so deserved, obviously, like I was trying to find when I called into the show. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think it was a brilliant call in one of the great. One of the great call ins that's ever happened in radio. And I think I delivered the message I wanted to deliver. But it was hard to even fully quantify how happy I am for him because I have felt for a long time that Don not being used for television hockey and slash or national hockey coverage is just. Just a shame. Like, to me, Don legreca could. I think this is what he would want to do the most. But I also could have seen him becoming the next and American Barry Melrose. Like, that to me was always on the table. He literally looks like Barry Melrose. Like, and. And knows the game as well as anyone is passionate. We know how funny he could be. And like, if you put him in the right setting where you let him have the personality, in some ways, I could argue that with the right studio show, you know, Don could have become the Charles Barkley of the NHL. Like, filled with personality and knowledge. There so many different things he could do. And it guys, I sort of. I was starting to give up. I was kind of like, I just don't feel like it's going to happen. Like, once I. Once the Rangers thing moved around, I'm like, oh, this just isn't happening, I guess. And in my brain I didn't understand. I'm like, how dumb are people? How could he get overlooked? He's this good. So then when you hear that, not only does he get it, but it's the Devils. Like, the only thing that's kind of more perfect than the Rangers for Don is the Devils. It's like when Carmelo signed with the Knicks and we got the. It's coming home.

[Chauncey]

I'm coming home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm coming home. The song by redacted yeah, it's like that.

[Chauncey]

Here's the best compliment I can, except.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tom's really from New Jersey. Carmelo is like, kind of from New York.

[Chauncey]

So I'm not the biggest hockey guy. Like, I enjoy it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh no, you've. In fact, you've offended Don in arguments about hockey.

[Chauncey]

I have. Which it was unintentional. I'm not the biggest hockey guy, but I enjoy it. Pusa could tell you. Like, I'll text him when I, when I need some information. Rangers are doing well. I, I'll be riveted by it. Don is so good at doing hockey play by play on radio or on radio. There were times, and I'm not making this up, where I parked my car and I legit just like had to sit there and continue until the next stoppage just because he just had me captured. That's how good he is. Like, he makes the game sound fun. You can tell he's having fun. It's interesting. Like he's unbelievable at it. And I've got mad respect for people who are able to do hockey play by play on radio because I can make the argument it's the hardest to do of any sport.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh no, I don't think there's an argument. It's. It's. To me it just seems like a whole different skill set. Like it's just now listen. Baseball's hard too. You have a lot of time to fill. There's a lot to do there. But it's slow.

[Chauncey]

But it's, it's constant moving.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the names, not only that. I mean, I know this sounds basic, like, not to sound like such basic itches, but like a. The game super fast and be. The amount of random Russian, Slovakian, Czech poll like so many different names that you're like. It's just an incredible thing that line changes.

[Chauncey]

It's so, so much is happening that you're on top of and, and you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Know, by the way, easier job for Don too. He's moving to tv so you get to do play by play. But the beauty is people are watching so you don't have to call it. It's a different art form, you know, one that he'll be I'm sure as good at, if not better. But like just another moment since I, I didn't. I wasn't here at the time to say how proud and excited I am for Don. By the way, though, I should be talking though. I should really have my, my agent call. When you think about it though, because Ty, let's think about it selfishly. For me. Alan's going to be have.

[Chauncey]

Nick's gonna go here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love you were going the same place.

[Chauncey]

I love how we're on the same page. I would say so now it's time for that uncomfortable conversation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Alan's got Knicks. Don's going to have Devils. They will have nights where they're both in action and both busy. Who is going to be in the studio? Anthony. Holding it down every night, huh?

[Chauncey]

But I was also going to go here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Chauncey]

Like, is there a little bit. Anthony, weigh in on this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, jealousy.

[Chauncey]

No, no, not jealousy, but you got to hold your weight. My guy. Like, so Allen's got Knicks tv.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Chauncey]

Don's got Devil's tv. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Chauncey]

It's the play by play announcer of WWE Evolved.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are you talking.

[Chauncey]

What do you mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Chauncey]

What do you mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's on Tubi. Hello.

[Chauncey]

Don't even, Ty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't even have to worry about a pre and post show.

[Chauncey]

You can watch the actual show and you'll find Peter. You got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a good point. Ty doesn't know that I do things in wwe, though, because he watched the show and specifically turned it off before my incredible posture.

[Chauncey]

I didn't know it was happening. I didn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Unbelievable.

[Chauncey]

Listen, this is what substitute teachers do. They clock it. They clock out right after it's over.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well done. Thanks for listening to the Don, Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know.

[Chauncey]

It's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Chauncey]

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