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Mets nationals underway on 880 so you can listen to it there. The Knicks host the Cavs game two of the Eastern Conference finals. Coverage on 1050 starts at seven and of course we have it right after the Met game and joining in progress on 880 and then the Yankees and the Blue jays will be at 7:05 tunnel more dew, the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew. Try the new Tullamore Do Honey during today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Tullamore do responsibly. Now it is getaway day in Washington, so I wouldn't be surprised as long as there's no weather delays that that game will be over lickety split and you'll be able to get Pat O' Keefe on 880, but you never know with these things. Wanted to give an update. Great game last night. Two great pitchers going between the Yankees and the Blue Jays. Cam on the mound for the Yankees and they lose the game 2 to 1. Game didn't start till after 9 because of the rain and Alan Will tell you all about that. But they did lose the game 2 to 1, and they lost Trent Grisham in the slide at second, right. Injured his knee. Not in the lineup tonight. He's going to get imaging. They're very optimistic that he's not going to be on the injured list, but no surprise, he's not in the lineup tonight for the Yankees against the Blue Jays, so something to keep an eye on. He's been good sound after the game yesterday. Trent talking about what happened on that slide at second. I don't really know. Just felt weird in my knee for a little bit, so it didn't feel like something I should mess with. So. Got a hell of a game, and we'll see tomorrow. And right after the game, Boone just gave his level of concern for the injury. Yeah, we'll see. I don't want to speculate too much, but, you know, he usually is, you know, for him to come out of the game definitely raises your eyebrows.
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So we'll.
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We'll see what we have and go from there. So there you are. Yankees lose a game against the Blue Jays, not, you know, a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but injuries to key players can be. And Judge, struggling a little bit also. Again, not the end of the world, but struggling just a tad.
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He got. It happens with him, though. We know that. He goes through these and you got to ride him out, and that's why you can't always rely on him, because you got to give him an opportunity to go through the usual slumps and stuff. When he goes through slumps, for him, it's not just. He doesn't like, you know, hit it in, hit it two people. He just doesn't hit it. He misses the ball. And you, Savage, by the way, I mean, we already know, like, he's. He's dangerous. He's really good.
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Yeah, that.
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That was a hell of a pitching matchup. Schlitler and Savage feel like they should probably go up against each other for years, right?
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Yeah, they should for sure.
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You know, that's what you would expect.
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They were a little bit more protective of him because he's coming off the injury, so. He only gave you six last night.
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Yeah, but he gave. He gave Judge a hard time, man.
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But, God, the Rays just keep winning. Beat Baltimore.
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Tell me about it. Boston, by the way, Boston's won four or five now.
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Yeah, Boston's not, you know, not bad. They're only five and five in their last ten, but they have won three in a row, so they're still five under. Blue Jays, still five under. So right now it's a two team race. But you know, again, the Rays are four back, four ahead of the Yankees. Crazy five in the loss column.
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It's just.
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Yeah, 33 and 15.
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Yeah, it's annoying. Very annoying.
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And so their winning percentage is.688 and that is the best winning percentage in Major League Baseball. The only one close, the Braves with a.680. They're 34 and 16. Braves have a nine game lead over the Phillies. And the Phillies have played outstanding since Dom Mattingly has taken over. They've won seven of their last ten and that's with a two game losing streak. So the Braves kind of running away with things. Rays aren't running away with it. But did you see that? I wish I wrote it down. I saw it on Twitter that like since 2010, the Yankees record is like through the first 50 games is always within 2 or 3 of what it is now. They're 30 and 20. They're always like, you know, 29 and 11, you know, or 31 and 9. Like they always seem to have the same start over the first 50 games. Even the year they missed the playoffs with all the injuries, in 23, I think they were 30 and 20.
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Yeah, the bottom fell out. We remember that.
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Right?
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And even last year, remember at, by, by June, I always remember because It's Flag Day, June 14, what their record was. They, I think they had 50 wins by then and they were. That's when they went into that series with the Red Sox and got swept. And it was just a disaster from that point forward. But I remember like just feeling every year it's like they have a good May and it's July and some of August where, you know, you go through the injuries and everything else, they always have to navigate the second half of the season and find a way to just be playing, you know, playing their best in September. But yeah, they, they generally get off to good starts. They do. They generally don't have bad starts. It's these finishes to the season that we all get frustrated by or there's
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always just some point where there's that lull that they seem to go through. Here's the latest from Brian Hoak. Trent Grisham said imaging showed no structural damage. It's a relief. He is hoping to be available off the bench tonight in an emergency. So that's, that's really good news. Really good news that he could be available coming off the bench on a night where he is not starting. But kind of crazy. You thought, hey, Red Sox starting pitching. Baltimore made some news. They get Alonzo and there they are like it's the Rays again and just off to. And then nobody else. The Blue Jays, who owned the Yankees last year, they, they're off to a terrible start. Now I do think the Blue Jays will get better. I don't know if Baltimore and Boston will, but as you said, Boston playing a little bit better as of late,
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but I'm always keeping an eye on them.
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It kind of just feels like now that I'm not saying that the Blue Jays can't make the plays, but as far as the division is concerned, it feels like it's a two team race with the Yankees trying to hang on here and just can't afford to let it slip away.
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Is it a race if you're in? If you're five games back in the
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lost column, you can. I'll believe the Rays when I see it. But every year they're good. This time they seem to be special. I think the Yankees are more equipped to make moves at the deadline and change some things around a little bit. But it's, it's really interesting when you're worried about other teams. Rightly so with the Blue Jays and how they play the Yankees last year and it's the Rays that up being the problem. 1800-919-3776. Don't forget at the bottom of the hour we're gonna have that guy. Thursday at 6 o' clock we'll have ENN. But let's get back to the busy phones. Let's talk to Ant in Newark. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, man?
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Alan, Don, Peter, I appreciate y' all taking my phone call. Alan, you remember me on the Boston Fan. Had to get your opinion on what you said on Get Up. I'll give my prediction on series first. I think Nixon 5. I don't really believe in Cleveland that much. Just think the inconsistency will end up being a downfall. But what I wanted to get your opinion on is something that I heard on the morning show and I think it's a little prisoner of the moment. I guess people got into Jalen Brunson versus Patrick Ewing talk. As far as greatest Nick oh God. And yeah, oh God is right because I, I honestly think Patrick clears. But you know, you don't want to get into these conversations because it ends up poo pooing the other. But it's just like in my opinion, in my honest opinion, Patrick's team were Nothing compared to what these. What the Nick team is now, in my opinion.
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Well, the game.
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I just think Patrick's role was. The game is different. Right. Big men were more prevalent then, and
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I'm a young guy, so, yeah, they played some more. They didn't really.
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I'll be 30, my birthday.
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Oh, all right. So you didn't see it. So the game was not only slower, they. They played inside out. They also played. They didn't shoot the three nearly like the three was. If you were down late, you started taking threes. The three wasn't something you used at that kind of a weapon. The three was. Was more of like in situational thing. Not a. Not a. This is every plan. Every. Every offensive possession, the plan is if you can get a three, get a three. And back then, it wasn't that. Back then, it was get it in to get as close to the rim as possible. And so, like, it's just the. The game's completely different. But president of the moment is the best way to describe any type of conversation about that right now. Because you watched game one and you saw what he did, and we know. Look, the Knicks, since Jalen Brunson has been here, have had. This is their best run since Ewing's. Ewing's years, but it's four years. Patrick's was 15. They made the playoffs. They made the playoffs for over a decade. Like, you can't compare the two. The longevity of it.
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But also, you can't push him ahead this soon. Or you can just wait a few weeks. If they win a championship, that's that.
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Let's talk on my birthday. Yeah, let's talk on my birthday. You want to talk?
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We'll talk on my birthday.
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And then we can have that conversation.
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Because people may not know Allen's birthday.
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That's game seven.
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It's Juneteenth. It's game seven.
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It's always been a national holiday.
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That's right. And by that day, we may not have an answer, but we may have an answer.
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Yeah.
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If the Knicks are champions, I'm sorry, Jalen Brunson will have surpassed Patrick Ewing. That's how sports.
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Just based off of the rings, cultures thing. Yeah. I think you'd have to then say that. Just like I am not comfortable by saying, because I still think Clyde is the greatest living Nick legend. The greatest. And Clive will tell you Willis Reed is the greatest player in Knicks history. And Willis Reed always said. And I know this because I talked to him about it before he passed. Patrick Ewing is the best player the Knicks have ever had. But drop. But. But Willis's eyes were never, unfortunately, never got to see Jalen Brunson do what he's doing in a nick uniform. But that's what he always said. The captain, the. Willis always said that about Patrick.
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Well, this is. But I'm just telling you how especially the younger generation is going to look at it. Same reason why automatically Jeter is better than Judge. Because Jeter's got five rings and Judge doesn't have one. All right, so. So there is the ring culture. And also kind of a subplot to the ring culture is expectations.
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Right.
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All right. When Dave DeBusscher is jumping up and down when the Knicks win the draft lottery.
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Yeah.
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He's not jumping up and down a 15 years of consistently going to the playoffs and Patrick Ewing being one of the top players in the history of the sport.
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No.
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He's thinking, we're going to win seven championships.
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Yeah.
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We've got the best player in the. We've got the best player in college who's now coming to the NBA and he's going to change everything for us.
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And how rude this is and how unfair it is. There can be in certain circles a case made that Patrick Ewing did not live up to expectations that he was a bit of a disappointment because he didn't deliver the rings. And if Brunson can deliver a ring, Peter's right. They're going to look at it and go, well, he was able to do something that Patrick Ewing couldn't do, and that's actually win a ring. Now, nobody is ever compared the two players.
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No.
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You know, right now, if you came out with the, you know, the greatest players of all. We're talking about how Brunson is underappreciated in NBA circles.
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Right.
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Right. So he probably wouldn't make a list the way Patrick was guaranteed to make a list. But in the ring culture, as you put it, he would. He would be right up there. Right.
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Yes.
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So, of course.
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No, no. And that's. That's what you're waiting for. But like, it's such a premature conversation.
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Of course.
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Well, just because.
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Yeah.
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And to walk out of that game and it's game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, not the NBA Finals, and to walk out of that game and the first thing you want to do is find a way to push Brunson ahead of Ewing. It doesn't make sense. But you see, you're searching a narrative that isn't there. You're begging for a conversation that isn't there. It's not there. It doesn't exist. It can exist. It can in a week from now.
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Well, I think we've said this. We've had this conversation many times, and we've always prefaced it with if he wins. Yes, because there is no conversation unless he wins. But it's getting closer, man. It's getting real, realer and realer by the day. Even last night, the Knicks catch the break, the Thunderbounce back. They even the series. So they're locked to go five.
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Not only just that. Not only just that, Don, look at the injury report. Darren Fox still isn't like his, his ankle. Thing is, I mean, he might play game three, but we don't know. And now that Dylan Harper, you saw the. What happened to his ankle and he walked off. At least he walked off, but they got to get imaging today on that. I'm waiting to see what that's going to mean because they, you know, you can't keep losing players. And then on the other side, Oklahoma City, Jalen Williams is gone. He walked off. He had his hamstring wrapped up. That hamstring's been bothering him all season. So something happened to him there, and he's the second best player on that team. And then AJ Mitchell, who's been a phenomenal backup, like, he could be the next Brunson. AJ Mitchell, guys, is somebody that if he becomes a free agent, he could do what Brunson did, go to another team, make it his team and be an All Star. That's how freaking good this guy is. And he's their backup point guard, essentially. But he plays next to Shea in a lot of situations because he can handle the basket really good. He had something happen with his quad. Nobody is saying what it is. Just now. We don't know if it's like a contusion. Did he have a cramp? Something happened, but he left the game. So what you're also seeing is a series that's going to be a war and is already attrition starting to happen. And so whoever comes out of this series, what condition are they going to be in when they head to the NBA Finals? You talk about it falling into place. The Toronto Raptors won a championship over one of the greatest teams in the history of the NBA, and that's the Golden State Warriors. When they had Kevin Durant and had won two titles, how did they do it? Sure, Kawhi Leonard was great, but how did they really do it? Because Kevin Durant's Achilles popped and Klay Thompson's knee blew up. And Steph Curry wasn't really right physically. He couldn't do it all, like by himself. And so that's what you needed to have happen to let the Raptors win the championship. Nobody says it. Nobody puts an asterisk on. Well, it's not really a championship. You know, this happened. No, they won the championship. They have a banner. So that's what you're watching in this series is to see what's the attrition and what's left of either one of these teams when they get out of this series and go into the NBA Finals.
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Let's go to Sam and Montclair. You're on. Don Hahn and Rosenberg.
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Hey, what's up, fellas? Just wanted to touch on something real quick. I found it fascinating. Alan kind of touched on it over these last couple of days. I had to look something up. It's called the Illusory truth effect. Over these last couple of days, we keep hearing just how well Cleveland paid for 40 minutes. They played good for three and a half quarters. So much so that New York talk radio has picked it up. Even Don said it earlier, and we watched the game. We've seen Cleveland have less points in the first quarter than they had in the collapse quarter. They have more turnovers in the first quarter than they had in the collapse quarter. So how did they play well for 40 minutes if they was losing by 11 with five minutes left in the first half?
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Yeah, really?
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They played good for one, one and a half quarters in that. For two and a half quarters. You know what the only difference is?
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Brilliant. This is brilliant. Brilliant. You nailed it. Here's why. And this is what he's referencing, guys. It was 20 to 16 after the first quarter. They had 16 points in the first quarter.
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3. 16.
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Yeah, 23. They had 16 points in the in the first quarter. They had 18 points in the fourth quarter and 3 in overtime. So for the first, fourth and overtime, they scored 37 points total. In the second and third quarter, they scored 67 points. So really, he's right. The majority of the time, the Cavs did not play well offensively either. But they had a pop, as I told you, 21 to 5 to end the half. That little pop right there was what stood out the most. It got them back in the game. They had a two point lead at the half and then they were able to do some stuff in the third quarter that was reminiscent of what they did to the Pistons to win that game by 30 in game seven. But the idea that they had a really Good game and just couldn't finish it is not exactly true. And that's a great call.
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That's a good point. Well, even you and Peter went at it to start the show yesterday.
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Right.
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And that was Peter's point. It's like, well, like the Cavaliers were great. That just, that's how bad the Knicks were. Yes, that lends to. Still it took an epic run for them to be able to least force overtime.
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And all of that is what speaks to why I like the Knicks so much tonight. I just, I just think, let me, let me say this. I think that if the Knicks are as serious as we all think, this is not just some like fun, fleeting thing, but they're really making a go of this and they're going to compete for a championship. I truly believe we will see a different version of them tonight than we did two days ago.
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Alan Han. Yeah, it's all about the ring, right?
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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.
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I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend I'm
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talking about the yo yos who set
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themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans.
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Or know that one person I'm here
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with, my family who can't help but be he's not cool. His voice Is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying. That guy.
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I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that.
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It's time for that Guy Thursday. Hey, guys. Anyone want to play some ball with Don, Han and Rosenberg?
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He's just being that guy.
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It's, it's. It's the best intro on the show. There's no question about it.
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Who takes a bow for that? Anthony.
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Is that. Is it a brown shirt? Anthony Vehicle or combination?
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Oh, brown shirt. Two people in the studio are pointing at brown. Sure. Good for you, man. It's the hidden things that people don't think about. Imaging guy, what is that?
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We don't know.
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Well, I mean, we do a radio station.
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We don't know.
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It's. It's. But, but did Anthony send him towards. I'm talking about the people who set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans. Did Anthony sent you that?
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He must have said, you gotta use
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because that, that is the brilliance of the whole thing. I don't remember Don saying it, but the way he says it is as if there are really people who do that. Like the casualness, you know, I'm talking, You know, the kind of people I'm talking about, the ones who set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans. Who. I mean, I know he's vaguely referring to the Buffalo Bills and maybe himself. There may be Rapug Don that he's referring to. Zoo Bas Don, as it were, or.
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No, because I, I loathe pork and beans. My mom would try to sneak them on the plate when we were kids. I just. I wouldn't have it. But keep an eye on the Bills. Maybe that you will see that, you know, diving into tables and all. Maybe you'll see them jump into a vat of pork and beans.
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Yeah, it's on the table.
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And you know, they're listening to the show because apparently according to them, they are local.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, you never know.
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Depending on though. They're not though, because they're. They're. They're a Toronto suburb. Let's be honest.
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But ball, in all seriousness, it. Toronto suburb of Jay.
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You know what I mean?
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They're like twin cities. They. Buffalo.
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It's like Minneapolis and St. Paul.
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Buffalo and Toronto are honest, honestly. Minneapolis, St. Paul, ajays separated by a lake. The Toronto. The people in Toronto love the Bills and go to Buffalo to go to Bills games. And there are Buffalo people who travel to Toronto all the time. Obviously, they're not Leafs fans because you have some baseball. Oh, but they'll watch the Blue Jays. Exactly. Go check in and take out it. Taking a Jays game. Wear their Cedo Gaston shirt now.
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I just like that.
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I just like referencing Cedo Gaston.
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I don't think Barfield.
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Well, it should be appreciated.
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He won two World Series.
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Yeah, and he was a real villain in Baltimore. The Cedo suck shirts were a big, big thing in Baltimore. By the way, speaking of that guy, I have one to get to, but let me just give it up to Major League Baseball, who's perennially that guy, as we're watching, as Anthony put it. You didn't know that in Washington today at Nationals park, it was dress up as a seat day because all you see is seats. Because I got news for you. Some people. I know that we're struggling in this country. Some people still work, though. And so who can go to a game at Thursday at 3:00'? Clock? Here's the answer. Nobody. It's empty. So you know the Mets and the Nationals are playing what looks like the city's been shut down. Yeah, 80% of the world's working.
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The other 20 come out of here. It's a playground. I can't say the whole thing, but one of the great rants in the history of sports.
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A
It's yo, yo. The whole thing is yo, yo. But it's 00, Mets, Nationals.
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C
That's right. Bottom two. You know, kicking the ball all over again. Because they just are awful at what they do.
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A
By the way, Ben's just had a horrible attempt at catching a ball in foul territory.
- [26:38]
C
He was afraid of slamming into the wall that was 15ft away.
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A
Yeah, it was. It was not. It was not great. It Don. You know what? Don's aging. Don's takes earlier this week are aging great. They still seem like the Jabronis. They always are.
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B
That's too bad. I was kind of hoping things were turning no me.
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A
I'm not saying they can't. I'll say this, though, it kind of makes today an important game. I mean, you did have something going here. And obviously a split with the Nationals is not ideal, but it's certainly better than losing the series to the Nationals.
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B
Yeah. Ballard series are important.
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A
Ballard is being that guy to me.
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B
Okay. Oh, no.
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A
He texted me saying, I know we're partial to our errors, but Ewing right now isn't on the Brunson level. Brunson has taken over so many playoff games. Ewing did that. Sometimes the stats have to bear this stuff out anyways. I said, here's, here's my response. And I think, I think I nailed this.
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B
Not enough time.
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A
Here's what I said. And this to me is all you need to say. I said, but if they don't win this year, and God forbid Brunson were to get hurt next year and then fall off, he didn't surpass Patrick. It hasn't been enough to surpass Patrick. It wouldn't, guys, obviously I pray that doesn't happen, but if it were to all end and they don't win a title in 30 years, people will not talk about Brunson more than Patrick Ewing. There's two finals trips there. There's a really long, sustained period of time. And year after year. Is this year four of Brunson or 5?
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B
Year four.
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A
This is year four. You cannot forget how many years Patrick Ewing was the band for the Knicks.
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B
Can I, can I just give you, I'm going to give you a five year span for Patrick Ewing.
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C
Go ahead.
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B
Okay. Because you got to go. It's unfair to like do his first two times in the playoffs because he was still a young player new to it and all. So I'm taking the first two years out. His next five years were from 1990 to 1994. His averages were 29.4, now 16.7. They played three games. They were knocked out quick in 91. And then Riley came in 22. 7, 25. 5, 21 9. Put on top of that, it was an average double double.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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B
10 rebounds. 10 rebounds. 11 rebounds. 10. 11 rebounds. 12 rebounds. Okay. And then blocks. 2. 2. 2.6. 2.1. 3.
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A
Oh, wait, hold on. Are you, are, wait, are you remembering a part of the game called defense?
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B
I mean, yeah, you're saying that should
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A
be factored in sometimes. And rebounding, that's, that's, that's a, that's a big thing he did.
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B
So I'm, I'm trying to just say, like, those, like, that's as good as you could get for five years in Nick history. Five straight years. And one of those years they were bad. They were bad. The 91 team was garbage. They were not good. They barely. They made the playoffs. They were out quick. And Patrick, you know, obviously wasn't playing well. They weren't playing well and they had to get a new coach. In comes Pat Riley. And in three straight years, they are just, They're a juggernaut. And they ran into Michael Jordan all three times and couldn't win.
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A
So keep in mind that multiple things. This is what I would say to Ballard, multiple things can be true at one time. I came on the radio yesterday and I stand behind this and said that what Jalen Brunson did at the end of that game puts him in air with people like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. That's the level of clutch takeover. Huge respect that Jalen Brunson has. I give him the utmost respect. But you also have to remember how good and how sustained a period it was that Patrick Ewan was the man in New York. And we all agree that living in the championship culture we live in is if Jalen Brunson leaves this, leads this team to a title, he immediately becomes the man. That's just that. That's how it is.
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C
Right. But let's not make this ring culture something new. Ewing had to live with it during his career.
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A
Yeah.
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C
You know, 30 years ago now, Patrick didn't help himself with the guarantees and I guarantee and win over the Pacers. Then it's his finger roll that doesn't go. But it was. He's going to bring us a championship. Like so. I think it's gotten worse over the years with the ring culture where it's like nothing else matters but winning the ring. You're seeing it with the Yankees now. You're watching a singular, talented Aaron Judge not be appreciated by certain segments of the Yankee fan base because he doesn't have a ring. But it's always been a thing about
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getting a ring 100%. They're just doing. Sorry. Don was looking at me and didn't know why I was looking up. They were doing a compilation of horrible defensive plays from the Mets in the series so far. It's like the Bad News Bears.
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C
It's going to continue through the game because they only had, you know, only a couple of seconds between pitches. They could do a whole. You could do roots.
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A
It could be like the baseball documentary, right? Oh, why am I forgetting my man's name? Come on.
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C
See, because you don't remember it now. Ken Burns.
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A
Ken Burns.
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B
Ken Burns.
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A
It could be Ken Burns. Jazz. Love the amount of highlights they have. Of course. Or low life.
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C
The Civil War one.
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A
Yes. Yeah, exactly. Civil War is classic now.
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B
Good for sleeping.
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A
So for my. For my. That guy. I was on the phone with the guys today. We were having our. Our meeting. I was stuck on. In traffic on Spring street. Moving like it.
- [31:52]
C
Which is. I could. I could roll. Yeah. Baseball, too.
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A
Yeah. I was right. It's a seconds away, but I was moving in a stand.
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B
Abandoned your car and you would have made the meeting on something.
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A
That's right. And so I'm on the phone with the guys. We're having the chat on the telly. Oh, wow, look at that. A defensive plate handling. Someone got thrown out. Can you believe it?
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C
This Met game is getting in the way of.
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A
Yeah, I'm sorry. You never.
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B
Sorry.
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A
Wait, have you ever seen Peter get this distracted by baseball? It's May baseball, and I'm locked in. So some guy rides by my car on a motorbike. You know, I don't know what these things are anymore. They're somewhere between a bicycle and a motorcycle.
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C
Is it like a electronic bike?
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A
It was like.
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B
It was not an E bike, was it?
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A
No, it wasn't an E bike. It was more like.
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B
Like a. Like a.
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A
It was more like a mini Vespa. It was more like a mini motorcycle type deal. And. And when he goes by me, I don't know at what point. I guess I was blocking him in some way in my car on the street made for cars. But as he goes by, he takes his right hand and he just hits my side view mirror as he drives by and like, throws up a hand in anger.
- [32:54]
B
Huh? How dare you put your rear view, your side view mirror in my way.
- [32:58]
A
It's blocking me from going around traffic illegally or they have a lane. Oh, no, that's what it was. Ah, I know what it was.
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B
You were in the bike lane, weren't you?
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A
I turned into the bike. There was so much traffic that.
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B
So you were that guy.
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A
I was. I was, technically. Well, I don't care. I have no respect for bikers. I take your lane. Guess what? I take your lane over and over again. 10 times out of 10. I drink your milkshake. Yeah, I. Sorry. Drink it right up. Traffic's bad. Sometimes you just got to squeeze. And we're getting. Because. I'm sorry. These roads were meant for cars. And even though the government here in New York City believes that they can get rid of cars and they. No, you're gonna suck our money in the meters. You're gonna suck our damn toll money. You're gonna charge us a lot for lots. But then you don't want us to drive. Well, guess what? I was in traffic. I'm trying to drive. And I guess I blocked a moment for this guy. I don't know. So as he drives by, but here's the guy. This guy, obviously, Don, if he hit my side view mirror in anger. This is obviously a guy who cares about the rules. He wants you to follow the rules. He didn't like that I was blocking his lane because I was breaking a rule.
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B
Fair, then.
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A
So we pull up to the next light at Spring and 6th Avenue. 6th Avenue. Pretty big street. Red light. He stops, looks both ways, and runs the red light.
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B
He broke a rule.
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A
No.
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C
No.
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A
And by the way, in the eyes of the law and the Lord and in the eyes of God himself or herself, you can't compare me being slightly in the bike lane to blatantly running a red. Blatantly running a red is spitting in the face of the law.
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C
No, they don't think that they can follow any rules, but you have to follow all the rules.
- [34:32]
A
Let's just be honest, people. This isn't. I'm not speaking to all delivery guys, because there are certainly some delivery guys in Manhattan who are on their bikes and they're on their motorbikes, and they're doing the best they can to get people their food. It's not a glorious job. It's hard to do. Some of them do the job well without putting people in danger by riding on the sidewalk or fighting with drivers. But a lot of people on bikes and motorbikes in the city are the scum of the earth, and I hate their guts. I hate them with every fiber of my being. The only thing I may hate more than the people on the motorbikes are the people who are such avid bikers, but they have to put on their skivvies and their helmets and go riding like they're Greg bleeping LeMond on Lexus.
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C
That was. I'm sorry. That is a strange bull. He's a big name, but Greg Lamont.
- [35:22]
B
I mean, he could have gone Lance Armstrong, you're saying? But he went Greg.
- [35:26]
A
No, Everyone does a hat. Goes Lance Armstrong, a sportsman.
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B
I know who Greg LeMond is, but. But.
- [35:32]
A
But. But seriously, you're such a big. You're such a big bike guy, but you can't go out to New Jersey or Westchester or Long island and ride your bike. You got to do your riding right through Manhattan. God. But how do you. But. Okay, fine.
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B
I hate cars. That. You know that, right? Oh, that.
- [35:50]
A
I get it. And I don't like you either. I don't go try to nudge your bike or.
- [35:55]
B
You were in his lane. You were in his lane.
- [35:57]
A
There is so that guy.
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C
I'm really hoping one day and I. I would be the bad guy, right? But sometimes I. I got the. Right away. Their lights red, and I'm walking across the street, all of a sudden, oh, yeah. A bike will just, like, buzz me
- [36:13]
A
yeah, they don't care.
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C
So what happens if I see it coming and I just. I level kick him, knock him right off his bike? Well, I'd be the bad guy, right? You know, but he could run me over. Like, I understand. Like, but I. If I'm riding a bike and I see nobody's coming, would I go through the red light?
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A
Probably, yeah, sure.
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C
No, I'm not buzzing people walking across the street. I mean, there's times where they. I could stick my hand out. I could totally close.
- [36:41]
A
There are people walking dogs. There are people pushing baby carriages. There's like a lot of stuff.
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C
These.
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A
The bike thing that has been happening the last several years. I wonder what the stats meet out in terms of how dangerous it has been for the city. Pedestrian was. I mean, some of these motorbikes, guys, they're going 25, 30 miles an hour on the sidewalk.
- [37:00]
B
They don't. They don't. They definitely don't. Well, a lot of them are delivery. It's all the delivery.
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C
And I get it quick and all that. I understand.
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B
The biggest complaint I've seen is how they. They congregate a lot of times in certain areas on side streets, waiting for the next call, you know, stuff like that. And they just hang out and there's people that aren't very comfortable with that.
- [37:22]
A
Oh, that's a thing too, huh?
- [37:23]
B
Yeah, it's. It's a thing. Yeah. Certain areas where it's just. They kind of just. They wait for the next delivery to go get or whatever it is.
- [37:29]
C
They.
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B
A bunch of bikes all just kind of stacked up in one area.
- [37:33]
A
There's one. There's one up near me on the Upper west side at the, you know, the McDonald's at like 71st, usually by
- [37:41]
B
a busy fast food restaurant because they know they're going to get a lot of calls. And usually, like late afternoon, you'll start posting up, knowing that people are.
- [37:50]
A
Dude, it is awkward. I've gone by there before, the McDonald's on the upper west side. I'm like, why are there 40 dudes with their bikes outside? Like, it just. It's not the vibe you're looking for.
- [37:59]
B
Yeah, but people want, you know, nobody wants to actually go anymore to a restaurant.
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A
Just follow the rules.
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B
They want somebody.
- [38:06]
C
We can all learn to live together. But I'm in a hurry. There's. I want to get home. I don't run the red light. Right. I don't commit crimes to do what I got to do. I mean, just, hey, obey the same traffic laws. Don't ride on the sidewalk. Don't go through red lights. I'll stay out of the bike lane. Why do we stay out of running lights?
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A
One more. That guy. While I'm at it. Okay, I want to call him out by name since he's tweeted me a million times over the years and it loves going after me at every turn. You've probably seen this yo yo on Twitter. Brian Stabnik as a.
- [38:44]
C
Ring a bell?
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B
No.
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A
I see T, A, B, N, I K. Brian Stabnik.
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D
Brian.
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C
His.
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A
Of course his picture is a. Is a Derek Jeter highlight. Jeter celebrating.
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C
Okay,
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A
his the first tweet that pops up on his page because I swear to God all he does is tweet me directly. So when you go to his main page. I just clicked on his page. There's only a few tweets today. Have fun in Newport, Rhode Island. Real Michael K. It's incredible. Next Next post. Happy birthday, Michael K. Next post. It was an honor sharing the field with H. Dumpty 39.
- [39:24]
C
Oh, so this field?
- [39:26]
A
Yeah, it looks like it was some.
- [39:28]
C
Did he come to the Sasso Softball?
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B
How long ago is this?
- [39:31]
A
No, it looks like an adult. Did Rick play in like an adult men's baseball league or something?
- [39:40]
B
Yeah, he does.
- [39:42]
A
Yeah, it's some. It's some sort of adult men's baseball league game. And yet the only. So he loves Michael K. Loves Rick D. Pietro. Both great guys. And the only time I must have heard from this guy 50 times over the years always to say something so obnoxious. Earlier it was God, Peter is so insufferable. Once music gets brought up, he gets on this moral high ground. My Lord. Shut up. Just talk sports. So he goes mute.
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B
I gotta protect my burner better. Yeah.
- [40:13]
A
Anthony, I could tell this is you. What was. It was the Jeter picture that gave it away, wasn't it? What was my insufferable music tape that I said I didn't agree that Isaac Hayes is known second for a South Park. It's just a disagreement with a friend.
- [40:26]
C
Maybe. Why are you giving it the time, man?
- [40:28]
B
Yeah, I was gonna say you're putting air into something you don't need to breathe oxygen into.
- [40:32]
A
I know, I want to. I want his friends to go. Oh, you're a yo yo weirdo who is obsessively in love with real Michael K and just wants to go at Rosenberg periodically. Cuz you're weird. You're weird, bro. I want your friends to know you're weird. By the way, you're in an adult men's baseball league. You're already weird.
- [40:51]
C
Well, wait a minute.
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B
That's not weird.
- [40:53]
A
Yeah, Is it?
- [40:55]
B
No, it's not.
- [40:55]
A
Get a job, for Christ's sake. How much time do you have, Rick? Doesn't count. Because the man's a freak. He never. The man literally sleeps five hours a day, DVRs every game, coaches seven teams, and then goes and plays in a men's league. He doesn't count.
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C
Well, we're out of time. Oh, well, you know what? I'm willing to bring this back because.
- [41:16]
A
Wait, you have more? The way you were asked me during the break, I thought it sounded like
- [41:19]
C
you didn't know, but it sounds like Alan had one.
- [41:23]
B
It's fine.
- [41:24]
C
No, we're bringing it back.
- [41:27]
A
No, I don't want to bring it back.
- [41:29]
C
We have the technology.
- [41:30]
B
I don't want to bring it back.
- [41:31]
A
We're not even on radio.
- [41:32]
C
I don't care if you want to or not. We're bringing it back.
- [41:35]
B
Want to do it?
- [41:35]
A
Do we get to hear the intro again?
- [41:37]
C
Yes.
- [41:37]
A
All right.
- [41:38]
C
Yes, absolutely.
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A
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B
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C
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B
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C
It could be anything.
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A
Canva helps you make that thing a thing.
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B
Canva is a simple online tool thing. It's a way to design with our magic AI tool things you can social
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A
media your thing, generate images or videos of your thing, make decks or presentations to show your thing. Whatever needs to be done for your thing.
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B
Canva can make it an even better and bigger thing.
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A
Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing. This is what everyone's talking about.
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B
Everything's on the table.
- [42:44]
A
This is what champions come to.
- [42:46]
C
Take.
- [42:47]
A
This is what everyone came to see.
- [42:51]
B
No do overs.
- [42:52]
A
No second chance.
- [42:54]
B
No more Mr. Nice Guy. This is winner take all.
- [42:59]
C
And it's all happening now on the
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A
home of the NBA Finals. Don't miss it. June 3rd on ABC and the ESPN app.
- [43:08]
B
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
- [43:12]
A
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [43:13]
B
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend.
- [43:27]
A
I'm talking about the yo yos who
- [43:28]
C
set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans.
- [43:31]
B
Or know that one person I'm here with, my family who can't help but be.
- [43:36]
A
He's not cool. His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.
- [43:42]
B
That guy.
- [43:43]
C
I didn't know it was banner night. We won't be out for that.
- [43:46]
B
It's time for that Guy Guy Thursday. Hey, guys, Anyone want to play some ball with Don, Han and Rosenberg?
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C
He's just being that guy. Now. If Alan wanted to be that guy, I'd understand. Or me, because we're bringing it back. We played it again because I didn't want Alan to get shut out because I know what that feels like. There was like a four straight week span where I never got my talk about it or, or that guy in because you guys gobbled up the time and I didn't want that to happen to my guy. Allen so carved out some time for you to be able to give. You're that guy.
- [44:20]
B
Well, I'll try to be quick here it was. As you guys know, yesterday's drive home to Long island was a challenge because of the storm that came. And you know, it's amazing to think that a highway that handles so many people, the minute we get some rain, they just have no drainage whatsoever. There's no ability to move water away from any part of the road. Possibly especially when you have some areas that, as, you know, go into a little bit of a rut underneath a, you know, a bridge, overpass, whatever, it just turns into a lake and you can't go anywhere. And that's what happened in this storm. And so there was a lot of cars just stacked up by one particular overpass where there was no possible way to, to go through, so you had to stop. But there was a way to get off the highway if you needed to, if you had to, to go, you know, to this, the service road, whatever it is, and find your way home. But to do that, you had to be able to get access to the exit ramp. So a lot of people that were in the right lane, very easy, they were able to find their way off. But I was in the left lane, so I had a harder time to get across. And so I also had a good friend next to me in a gigantic 18 wheeler truck who I couldn't go under him. And so I had to wait as other cars way ahead of us were finding their way back. Like, almost like going backwards on this on the shoulder to get to the exit ramp. Right. But as you Know, more cars slipped out, it opened up, it loosened up the gridlock. But this truck in the middle lane. Every time a middle lane car would exit, he would move up, and it's like, are you not paying attention? People are trying to escape, my man. Why are you blocking everyone? And so he was being that guy, as if to say, if I got to be stuck here, you all have to be stuck here. But I wasn't having it. Oh, switch you car in front of me smartly, when. When something loosened up, nosed in real quick so the truck couldn't move up. And then he was able to navigate around the truck, literally, like, almost perpendicular, and then got out. And I rode this dude's bumper as much as I could. Yeah, I know, okay? But that's what I did.
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A
Do whatever you got to do.
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B
You do whatever you got to do to get home. You know what I mean, boys? And so I then knew the truck wasn't gonna be happy with this. He sees me doing it, lays on
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A
the horn,
- [46:59]
B
and so it's pouring out. No one's happy, right? Everyone's miserable. No, I've been sitting there. We've been sitting for over an hour and 20 minutes in park. So that's. We've had enough at three hours sleep. So I'm like this. I have two choices to make here. What would you do? I'm gonna go. And if this guy drives right through my fender, all right, we're gonna be here a lot longer, aren't we?
- [47:25]
A
Taking the risk, you know what I mean? Run into the play.
- [47:28]
B
So I. I open my sunroof, the moonroof, and I yell, I'm going. And he gives me this dirty look.
- [47:39]
C
All right?
- [47:41]
B
And he beeps the horn again. So I beat my horn. I go. I'm going to let me go. So I start to go. He edges up. Like, it's almost like the threat. And, like, you hear the air brakes twice. Like, he's like. And then the whole truck is, like, shaking. I'm like, is he trying to intimidate me? So I just yell, like, what the hell is wrong with you? Like, as loud as I could. And he yells at blank you. Oh, that's. That's.
- [48:07]
A
Now we're having a conversation.
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B
So now I went, mike, that's it. Hit me. Hit me.
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A
And nothing.
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B
Nothing. Gutless went right around him. Navigate. Now he's holding down the horn the whole time. So I'm like, It's. It's echoing everywhere. But I get around him. I have to go back a little bit, get up the ramp. And within. Within 35 minutes, I was home. Thank God. Now he's being that guy, is he not? Because, like, why wouldn't you just have the courtesy to understand there's, like, let people out, loosen this up a little bit. But instead, he's like, no, if I. I can't do that because my truck's too big to do that. So if I'm stuck here, you're stuck here. And I really felt like that's all I was thinking in my head. I'm going, he's being that guy. You don't have to be that guy.
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C
You can be a good guy, and
- [48:54]
B
you could block off everybody, let all these people out. Let him out. There's no way to get. Because there was nowhere to go. So that's it. What would you do in that?
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A
You live to see another day is the point. I mean, listen, you got to pick those. To me, it's all about picking and choosing who is the person I'm about to scream at.
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C
And be careful, though.
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Yeah. Do I think I could die here?
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C
Yeah.
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Because if so, I'm gonna lay out.
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B
I mean, the truck had some markings on it.
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A
Well, like, what those markings are is important.
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B
Yeah. Because it told me with phone numbers and. And vehicle numbers that I took a picture of just in case.
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C
Right.
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See, there you go.
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That. I'm like.
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You know what it's called? That's called keeping it real while keeping it safe. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. It wasn't like, you know, look, if this was like, you know, a windowless van, I'm probably not doing it. But it was in the end, and good. I'll say this. I'm sure he was really frustrated, and we all were.
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We were all at wit's end, and
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everybody's at their wit's end, and everybody wants.
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But you didn't mean to be that guy. You didn't need to be the guy that. He's leaning on the horn.
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He's freaking out, make it easier for everybody to just be able to get where they have to go. I want to go with positive. I want to. I want a positive. That guy. And that guy is Eddie Scazzari. He's retired from WFA and 37 years there. I got to work with him for five years when I was over there.
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And the Eddie Scazzari.
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The Eddie Scazzari. So I know we're all in the same business here, and we've all crossed paths, and I think it's great that he's able to retire with his wife and his dogs and do it on his terms. So I wanted to just take that moment to say congratulations on an amazing career. Eddie Scazzari decided to hang up the headphones after 37 years at the Fan
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thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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I don't want to know how the
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