Hour 3: Adam Schefter & The Beach Bash

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 3: Adam Schefter & The Beach Bash
Release Date: June 23, 2025

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1. Championship Game 7 in Oklahoma City

The hosts delve into the recent Game 7 where the Oklahoma City Thunder secured their first championship. Alan Hahn offers a nuanced perspective, highlighting the resilience of the Pacers and the impact of Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles injury.

• Alan Hahn [00:59]: "The Pacers probably didn't get enough credit for what they did and how close they came to unseating a really good basketball team in the Oklahoma City Thunder."

Hahn acknowledges Oklahoma City's historic achievement while emphasizing the tough competition they faced, noting the potential difference Halliburton could have made had he remained healthy.

2. The Prevalence of Achilles Injuries in Sports

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the alarming number of Achilles injuries across major sports leagues. The hosts compare the frequency and impact of these injuries in basketball and NFL, drawing parallels to the UCL issues faced in baseball.

• Don LaGreca [00:19]: "The Achilles has become this injury. It's almost become like the UCL that baseball deals with with pitchers."

Hahn reflects on the increasing trend of such injuries, attributing it to the evolving nature of sports and the heightened physical demands on athletes.

3. Insights on NFL Offseason Storylines

Transitioning to the NFL, the conversation shifts to offseason developments beyond the high-profile Aaron Rodgers saga. The focus turns to unsettled contractual situations involving key players like Ray Hendrickson, TJ Watt, and Terry McLaurin.

• Alan Hahn [04:52]: "Aaron Rodgers certainly hung over the NFL for a long enough period of time. And I think now we're onto some of these unsettled contractual situations that are out there."

Hahn highlights the growing complexity of player contracts and their implications for team dynamics and league narratives.

4. Terry McLaurin's Contract Negotiations

A deep dive into Terry McLaurin's contract situation reveals the tightrope the team walks between acknowledging his immense value and navigating financial constraints.

• Alan Hahn [06:09]: "Terry McLaurin has numbers that rival anybody's. So he can make a claim for whatever money he wants. He's allowed. But he's also got a year left in the contract."

The discussion underscores McLaurin's pivotal role as both a statistical leader and a franchise face, suggesting that the team will strive to reach an amicable agreement to retain his talents.

5. Giants' New Quarterback Jackson Dart

The podcast examines the Giants' draft of Jackson Dart, exploring the expectations and uncertainties surrounding his integration into the team's quarterback room.

• Alan Hahn [07:12]: "I would expect the quarterback room to look like Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Jackson Dart."

Concerns are raised about Dart's off-field behavior, specifically his history of speeding tickets, and how it might influence his role and development within the team.

6. Screen4Type1 Movement Awareness

Alan Hahn takes a moment to spotlight the Screen4Type1 Movement, emphasizing the importance of early detection of type one diabetes during Men's Health Month.

• Alan Hahn [14:00]: "My wife Sherry's type one diabetic. I've seen what she goes through managing this disease on a daily basis."

He urges listeners to consult their doctors about screening, providing resources for further information.

7. Changes in the New York Jets' Organizational Culture

The hosts discuss the transformative changes within the New York Jets, focusing on the centralization of communication under Aaron Glenn's leadership to curb previous issues with leaks and fragmented messaging.

• Alan Hahn [11:48]: "He [Aaron Glenn] has made it very clear they don't want all these voices talking the way it's been in the past."

This strategic shift aims to create a more unified and controlled narrative for the team, signaling a new era in the franchise's management.

8. Planning and Ideas for ESPN Beach Bash

A spirited segment involves brainstorming for the upcoming ESPN Beach Bash event. The discussion highlights ideas like incorporating a Family Feud-style trivia game to engage attendees.

• Peter Rosenberg [28:28]: "It's going to be a good time. We're going to have a ball and we're all going to be together because it's not that often we're all Together."

The hosts express enthusiasm about interactive segments and live audience participation, aiming to enhance the event's entertainment value.

9. Discussion on Pitch Counts and Athlete Injuries

Addressing another facet of athlete health, the conversation turns to pitch counts in baseball and their correlation with injuries. The hosts critique the arbitrary nature of pitch limits and their effectiveness in preventing arm injuries.

• Don LaGreca [40:40]: "It's just a real thing now because it's different than it used to be."

They argue that despite regulations, injuries persist, questioning the efficacy of current preventive measures.

10. Listener Interaction Segment

Engaging with listeners, Richard from Manhattan shares his thoughts on the dramatic impact of injuries in critical game moments across various sports.

• Richard [43:51]: "I think what we watched last night was historic."

This segment underscores the broader implications of athlete injuries on game outcomes and fan experiences.

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Notable Quotes

• Alan Hahn [00:59]: "The Pacers probably didn't get enough credit for what they did and how close they came to unseating a really good basketball team in the Oklahoma City Thunder."

• Don LaGreca [00:19]: "The Achilles has become this injury. It's almost become like the UCL that baseball deals with with pitchers."

• Alan Hahn [04:52]: "Aaron Rodgers certainly hung over the NFL for a long enough period of time. And I think now we're onto some of these unsettled contractual situations that are out there."

• Alan Hahn [07:12]: "I would expect the quarterback room to look like Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Jackson Dart."

• Alan Hahn [14:00]: "My wife Sherry's type one diabetic. I've seen what she goes through managing this disease on a daily basis."

• Alan Hahn [11:48]: "He [Aaron Glenn] has made it very clear they don't want all these voices talking the way it's been in the past."

• Peter Rosenberg [28:28]: "It's going to be a good time. We're going to have a ball and we're all going to be together because it's not that often we're all Together."

• Don LaGreca [40:40]: "It's just a real thing now because it's different than it used to be."

• Richard [43:51]: "I think what we watched last night was historic."

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Conclusion

In this episode of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast, the hosts provide insightful analysis on recent sports events, highlight pressing issues like athlete injuries, and engage in thoughtful discussions about team dynamics and organizational changes. Additionally, they emphasize important health initiatives and actively involve their audience in upcoming events, blending professional commentary with community engagement seamlessly.

Transcript

[Don LaGreca]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers. This is the NFL Binge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Adam Schefter is nice enough to join us here at 501 on the Don Hahn and Rosenberg show. It is, of course, the NFL Insider for espn, and he's with us on behalf of the screen for type one movement. Adam, it's Don legreca. It's Peter Rosenberg. Hi. Alan Hahn.

[Adam Schefter]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are you, Don?

[Alan Hahn]

Peter Allen. How are we doing today, gentlemen?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good. We got like, so many different places we can go, but I guess topical thing is, and you were engaged in it last night. Game 7 Oklahoma City wins their first championship. But what is your lasting memory of what many people believed was kind of a ho hum final?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I thought that the Pacers probably didn't get enough credit for what they did and how close they came to unseating a really good basketball team in the Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean, if Harry Saliburton hadn't torn his Achilles on that play, you just wonder how different the game would have been. And that's not to take away from what the Oklahoma City Thunder did at a historic season. First title in franchise history, first major league championship for that city. They deserve it all. But Tyrese was off to a torn start. This Pacer team, as everybody in New York knows, was incredibly tough. And I think they would have given him a game. I really do. I don't know that it would have been enough to win, but, you know, moment I saw the ESPN pregame show, NBA Countdown show, everybody picking the Thunder. Whenever I see that, I'm like, oh, boy, here we go. And then there were the buses. You know, the parade was playing. Rick Carlisle is using that as motivation, and we'll never know. And it's unfortunate for Tyrese Halliburton now. You know, he'll miss the better part of next season as well. We saw three great NBA stars tear their Achilles during this postseason. I mean, that's a lot too, isn't it?

[Adam Schefter]

By the way, all number zero. It's very weird. Shefty.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, there were several in the season that the Achilles has become this, the injury. It's almost become like the UCL that baseball deals with with pitchers. It's become that in the NBA. But Shefty, I wanted to ask you from a football perspective because there was some debate, although most people felt Halliburton, it's, this is the ultimate game of the season in your career, there's no guarantees you'll be back. You know the risks. You gotta play. You know, he wanted to play, but there are some that say, you know, they should have protected him from himself, he shouldn't play. Is there. I can't remember a time where a player at this stage was like, I can't risk injury. I'm not playing. Can you think of a situation, football, where a player didn't play in the super bowl even though he was healthy enough to play, but there was concern that an injury could happen that could be catastrophic?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you know what I think of is guys that have gotten back to play that game and they were not at full strength, but somehow made their way out into the field. I remember Rod Woodson did it back in the day, I believe, for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Dwight Freeney did it for the Colts against the New Orleans Saints. There always seems to be somebody that's trying to get past something. I mean, it would have been really interesting to see if Aiden Hutchinson have made it back for Detroit. Now, I don't know what the risk of re injuring is, but in this particular case, Tyrese Halliburton was dealing with a calf injury. And you know that when you have that calf, the strength calf, that would sideline most players for a month. I mean, you just know that that's part of the risk here. He's not oblivious to that. I don't know if they fully spelled out to him, hey, if you play, there's a 18% chance you're going to tear your Achilles. Even if they had, my guess is athletes in the heat of the moment, they're always going to say, you know, we're 48 minutes from the championship. Like, I'm going to. I'm going. And you know, it's terrible, it's regretful, but the fact of the matter is I don't think that he would change it.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, you just, you're not. You don't often have three games already won in an NBA final that, that may never happen for, for a lot of these guys ever again. Turning towards the NFL, Shefty, what do you think's been the. What is the most interesting storyline in this off season? It sort of feels like somehow we got into a place where the fate of Aaron Rodgers didn't even really feel like that big of a deal. So in your world, what has been and what sort of is the biggest story in this NFL off season?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, well, Aaron Rodgers certainly hung over the NFL for a long enough period of time. And I think now we're onto some of these unsettled contractual situations that are out there. Ray Hendrickson didn't show up to a mandatory minicamp. TJ Watt didn't show up to mandatory minicamp. Terry McClaurin didn't show up to the off season program. You know, it's one thing to miss in the spring. It's another thing if camp gets underway in another month or so and they're still not there, then becomes more of an issue. Now it's, it's fodder for people to talk about. It is worth paying attention to. But I think it gets ratcheted up to a new level. If and when they're not in training camp next month.

[Adam Schefter]

What, what's going to happen? I'm a commander's guy, the Terry McClure and things. Interesting. I personally feel as someone who follows this team constantly, there's probably no one more deserving of money on this team. He's been there through everything, played with complete jabronis at quarterback. Now they're finally there. He completely delivers. Last season for Jaden Daniels. Everything's moving so positively for this team. Are they just ultimately going to be fighting over a few bucks here or there? How do they not work this out?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, of course, I mean, that's why it's not worked out, because they're obviously disagreeing on money. And we've seen big contracts get awarded this offseason at the wide receiver position to T. Higgins and Jamar chase in Cincinnati, DK Metcalf in Pittsburgh. And Terry McLaurin has numbers that rival anybody's. So he can make a claim for whatever money he wants. He's allowed. But he's also got a year left in the contract. So, you know, the thing that is interesting here is not only is he a great player, but he's like the face of that franchise. I know Jayden Daniels has morphed into that, but Terry McLaurin is such a popular, respected leader that it's hard for me to imagine that the two sides won't figure out a way to get this done when it really matters.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The other thing intriguing with the Giants is the draft of Jackson Dart. They go back into the first round. It looked like he had a good minicamp. Do you have any kind of feel on when we might be able to see him and what is that quarterback room going to look like week one?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I would expect the quarterback room to look like Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and Jackson Dart. That's what I would expect. Early on and it doesn't matter. You know, their plan is to bring Jackson Dart along slowly. And the truth of the matter is Russell Wilson is really going to determine how quickly Jackson Dart is or isn't brought along. If Russell goes out and they're winning football games and he's playing well, then they can afford to hit Jackson Dart as long as they want, hopefully for the whole season. If Russell doesn't play at a high level and they're not winning, that'll expedite things. So nobody can say right now how well Russell is or isn't going to play, how much the team is or isn't going to win. I know most fans probably don't think they're going to win, but I would say that the roster's got talent. They're capable of winning. Tough division, but they've got a lot of talent, and we'll see how it all works out.

[Don LaGreca]

It does seem like Dart is, I don't want to say favored son, but I mean, it's always the quarterback that you draft, you're putting so much energy and effort into. But during camps and everything, there've been really positive reports about what he's, how he's looked, how he's interacted. I've heard great stories also about when they, when they were going through the draft process and they were asking people like, like at all these different, you know, you know, the Senior bowl and everything else, any of the workouts combines. It's like, hey, if there's a guy that you would love to have as a teammate, he was always like one of the names that everybody brought up. It's as if he's like the most popular guy in the room. Are there just intangibles about him? Despite the fact that he wasn't their first, first round pick, he was, he was the second guy they took. But it feels like there might be a little more. Like, Carter is a special talent, but it feels like Dart, there's something more special about him that they're hoping turns into their next star.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's what they're rooting for and that's what they need to have happen. And we'll start out with the fact that I haven't heard of any instances in which he's been pulled over for speeding going to 101 miles an hour. Right. We'll start with that. And then they need him to be that. And really, you know, by and large, the most successful quarterbacks in the league are like that. They just fit in. They, they get along with everybody. That, you know, they just kind of get it and those are the early signals. But they haven't played a game yet. They haven't played a preseason game yet. Nothing's gone wrong. I don't know. I'd be very concerned if I heard information to the contrary in OTAs about a rookie. Like, to me, everything should be hunky dory right now. It would be alarming if it weren't. But yeah, the early signs are encouraging for whatever that's worth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you brought it up with Chador. I never seen anything like it. To see a potential third overall pick drop to the fifth round of the team that drops them looks like it's a hostage video when they do it in the war room. Have you been able to get any kind of closure, any more information as the months have gone on since the draft, on how something that spectacular could have possibly happened?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think some teams just didn't have them rated as high as people in the media world or the public world thought. I mean, there was a team I was talking to the Monday after the draft, they're like, yeah, you know, where we had shoulder right about spotty head. He won in the draft.

[Don LaGreca]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

So, I mean, you know, there was a lot of conversation, a lot of people that loved him and I think he's got a real chance to be a really good quarterback in the league. But there were some teams that didn't view him like that, which is obvious the way the draft hold it.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So guess what? None of it matters. He gets the chance to go out now and show everybody that they made a mistake. Not off to great start so far. You know, you can't have two speeding tickets like that. You can't be going 101 miles an hour.

[Adam Schefter]

Not ideal.

[Alan Hahn]

Not ideal. I mean, again, there are certainly worse things, but you have to show a certain level of maturity and responsibility at that position. And obviously he's going to have to earn and prove that shefty.

[Don LaGreca]

On the jets side of things, it's amazing because for me, the last couple of years, the last two years especially the jets just feel like they have been a daily story for obvious reasons that go even just beyond just having Aaron Rodgers. There was just so much going on there. It has gotten so quiet at Florham.

[Alan Hahn]

Park right now on purpose.

[Don LaGreca]

Can you. So what should we expect this to be where it's Aaron Glenn, that's the front man, that's the voice of the franchise. It's a very strong voice, clearly. And that's it.

[Alan Hahn]

He has clear to the team. Okay. And the organization. Guys, we don't want anyone talking like, you know, I'm going to stand up here and I'm going to represent this organization. I mean, I'm just telling you, like, there are people there that haven't returned my call. Like, I'm like, okay, fine. Okay, I got it. You know, clearly they want, you know, one voice speaking for this team. They don't like everybody, you know, all the things that have happened in the past, new regime, new perspective, new outlook, and they want to approach this in a different way. And I don't think it's coincidental that everything's been quiet because that's the way that the lead man wants it done. And that's going to work for a while now. Inevitably, inevitably. You know, it'll soften up some. It has to over time. But right now, he has made it very clear they don't want all these voices talking the way it's been in the past.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Obviously, it didn't age well, Adam, but you still just wonder what would have happened in had he not torn his Achilles on the fourth play of their season. And I know we look at it as typical jets embarrassment. How can they do that? How can they hand the whole franchise over the Rodgers? But in that quiet moment, obviously it wasn't worth it. But I still understand why they did it. They needed a quarterback and it all went to hell for no other reason but the fact he tore his Achilles on the fourth play.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, if we go back to that summer, that spring, I mean, was there a time that we could remember that had to be the most excitement, conversation, hype surrounding the jets since the late 1990s?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, easy. Easily. I mean, maybe. Maybe, Rex, but I'm with you. It was Camelot. I mean, it was the. The honeymoon was incredible. Shifty. It was hard knocks, all of it. You loved it. You will. We were eating it up here in New York. Eating it up.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like it's 25 years since there have been that much hope and anticipation for a Jet season.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

And so, you know, it didn't work. Unfortunately, the Achilles changed the trajectory. I remember that night. I was at that game and I remember, you know, some of my Jet fan friends being all excited they won the game and overtime. I thought to myself, hold on. Like, don't you realize what just happened here, people at the moment? It took a little bit of time to absorb everything, but they won the battle that night and lost the war.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, tell us about the screen for type one movement.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I appreciate that. Look, it's a great time of the year. It's Men's Health Month this June. So it just gives me another reason to come on here and talk about partnering with Sanofi to raise awareness about the importance of screening for type one diabetes. My wife Sherry's type one diabetic. I've seen what she goes through managing this disease on a daily basis. Type one can't be prevented, but it can be detected early. And that's why I've urged people and been doing this for a long time now. The screen Meet with your doctor. Screen screening can give people the valuable time that they need prepare. And so in my perfect world, I just want to tell people to go talk to your Doctors about type 1 diabetes and tell them you want to be screened. Go to screen4type1.com. That's screen4type1.com for more information. But again, with this being Men's Health Month, great time to do it. Go to screen4type1.com.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know why you wouldn't, obviously. I mean, we've got so many things up against us as we get older. It just. It's crazy that these guys just don't want to do it. It sounds like it's a simple thing to do. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Meet with your doctor, tell them you want to be screened.

[Don LaGreca]

That's it. You got to go anyway for the check. That's true.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think going to the doctor is the hardest part for some guys. Right. I think that's what it really just.

[Alan Hahn]

Comes down to, you know, if it means anything. I got a physical with my doctor set up for next week. So I've been screened, and I urge people to be screened themselves.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. We're looking forward to the football season. This is always the conundrum for me. I love the summer, but in order for the summer, the football to come, summer's got to get out of the way. So we'll enjoy these couple months, but it'll be here sooner or later, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. For me, July 4th always ends, the unofficial end of my off season, July 4th. So coming up on us quick, and people are seeing ready for the season, and I always say, let's not rush it. And I still feel that way for the final couple.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thanks a lot, man. Really appreciate it.

[Don LaGreca]

Appreciate you, Shane.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that's the NFL binge. You know, it was so funny when he said that the jets aren't returning his calls. It's like, you know, yeah, they've shut it down like they are.

[Don LaGreca]

They are by design. It's so true, Don, and it's by design. And it also does tell you a lot about how the jets realized that over the last couple of years, things got completely out of control. Way too many voices, way too many whispers, way too many leaks, way too many sources. Right. That all had to stop. And Aaron Glenn, and this is very much out of the Parcells book. Very much. There's one voice. I'm the only one. If anybody needs to know something, I'll tell them that's it. And so far now, again, we're in infancy stages of the new regime. But you can see what Shefty's saying is like, this is exactly how they want to run things here. And it's going to be interesting once we get the training camp and we just start to see what will this team look like? What will they be a defense, first team that runs the ball a lot? Probably it's going to look a lot different. Will they be highly competitive? Probably. But will they be a winning team? That's the part we don't know. We don't know what they're going to be in a tough afc, but they are definitely a different franchise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We know it's not going to be a great season. And I think that's why they've done everything that they've done, is that they've lessened the expectations. They win a couple more games than you think that'll be looked up upon. Its a great season. What I want to know is what happened first? What came first? The chicken of the egg. Because I look at organizations that aren't buttoned up and I look at the owner and I say, when there's lack of leadership with the owner, that's when the ship starts to leak. When Aaron Glenn came in, was it a case of Woody Johnson saying, I've got to shut this down. This is the way we're going to run things, or was it the other way around? Ryan Glenn's like, if this is gonna work, we're gonna have to shut all this down, you know, so Woody, button this ship up here because that's the only way we're gonna be able to move forward. Because looking from afar, I got way more information about your organization than I should have. That's probably coming from you. So if I'm gonna take this job, you're gonna have to let me make sure that we button this stuff up here. Like, so I have a feeling that it more came from, you know, during the interview process. Of coaches saying, hey, am I. You're going to have my back here? Because it's easy enough for me to run a ship, say, you know, loose lips, sing ships. But if I don't have your back, if you're not going to have my back here, then it's not going to work. Because I really do believe weak ownership is why these teams can't keep their mouth shut.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, it has to be, because you see the coaches change, you see the players change, and time after time it's the same thing. So the question is, will the vibe we've been getting from Aaron Glenn of Mr. Joe Football A, will that be the vibe that he keeps as time goes on and will that be effective? So I'll be honest, Robert Saleh, even though he was very likable, he was essentially Mr. Joe Football, he just did it in a sort of really nice, friendly, Christian guy kind of way. But he was very much just like football, football, football. That's what it is.

[Don LaGreca]

But he also was a bit of a Chatty Cathy also. He had a lot, you know, you could clearly, you could get stuff out. Clearly that was going on. Come on. Clearly.

[Adam Schefter]

Wait, do you mean in terms of speaking to who.

[Don LaGreca]

Whoever had access to him.

[Adam Schefter]

You mean letting some things out?

[Don LaGreca]

Probably. I, I mean, how could you not. How could you not think that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the problem. Over time, oh, my God, this is what I got.

[Adam Schefter]

But that wasn't that the Rogers of it all, though. Over time, the pressure that the Rogers things put on him, even prior to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Roger, I just think what ends up happening, first of all, we got to see how losing looks. Because usually when you start to lose, then people start circling the wagon and that's when it all starts to fall apart. It's all, it's all great. When you first start the season, you're oh, and oh, it's all great. But the impression I got from Salah is that there was a little bit of like me there. And when you have some like me, you start maybe giving a little bit more than you should sometimes and you don't. You think it's harmless. You really have to go under the assumption when you have a sport as big as football and a team as popular as the jets is that people are going to try to get information from you without, like seeming like they're interrogating you. And that little piece that you might text to somebody, like a certain talk show host.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm just trying to help you out. Anyone just trying to help you out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Trust any you think you Trust them?

[Don LaGreca]

Nope.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And again, I don't think all these people like, listen, I knew Joe Beningo. One of the reasons I'm here today is because of the chances he gave me when I worked at the Fan. But that's not a guy you should be texting with if you're a coach in the NFL and trust that it's not going to end up on the air or that he's not going to say something because, you know, not that Joe's untrustworthy, but if a coach is telling a talk show host something, things are going to slip out. He's going to say something to somebody who's going to say something to somebody else. The only way to keep a secret is to shut your mouth.

[Don LaGreca]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The second you tell anyone, there's the chance that it's going to get out. Especially when it's information that people are longing for that desperately need to find out. By the way, shut it down.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you Anthony for reminding me as I, as I spoke about Robert Sala and used the word Christian that he's Muslim. I meant religious, but just use Christian absentmindedly. That is a good point. Thank you. He was the first known Muslim head coach, I believe. And I said Christian so that shows, that shows how little I care about religion. But you know what I meant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My correction, he's a bad an eye. Does that make me a bad guy?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, no, because you know what I meant.

[Don LaGreca]

What did I do wrong?

[Adam Schefter]

No, you just know that I meant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like he had the wrong. I mean was he practicing? I know he was, but was he?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, what I meant. Well, I think he's pretty all in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think you should beat yourself up over that.

[Don LaGreca]

When you said it, I was like, oh, I didn't know he was Christian. Like that's all I thought in my head. I'm like, I didn't know.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, he, no, he has a sort of. His way about him is a good godly man. How about that? Can I use that God fearing kind of person? That's all I meant by you got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Your God and your Christ confused.

[Adam Schefter]

But can I tell you what, the books are all pretty similar. Man, the man loves God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But there is a distinction between God and Christianity. Christ.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, but you, but, but Christians love God and Christ, they both exist.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Understood. But if you say that you're a Christian then you're suggesting. But can you.

[Adam Schefter]

But you can still be a God fearing man.

[Don LaGreca]

Of course, of course, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I didn't say Christ, love it.

[Don LaGreca]

I think everybody believes in a God whether Whatever you call him.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, if you're religious, yes, usually.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay, all religious people believe in a God. It's just that there is. Of course, Christians also believe there was the Son of God. And not everybody believes God of Jesus.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, I'm Peter. Say it again.

[Adam Schefter]

Which one?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everything.

[Adam Schefter]

The whole thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even think you should apologize.

[Don LaGreca]

You just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You didn't mean anything by.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, no, he didn't tell me to apologize. He just corrected me. Because it's your fault. It's Anthony.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, you know what?

[Adam Schefter]

Anthony?

[Don LaGreca]

Anthony's the guy on Twitter that runs to his keyboard to tell you you were wrong on something.

[Adam Schefter]

No, I think he did the right thing. I literally referred to him. I mentioned. I used Christian almost as an adjective. And he's Muslim. That's a bad job.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he's also been fired. And Jeff fans don't care anymore.

[Don LaGreca]

Don't care.

[Adam Schefter]

No matter what religion it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not gonna see too many old.

[Don LaGreca]

Ass, no breaks T shirts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter says, year of our Lord all the time. Got news for him.

[Don LaGreca]

Not his Lord. Yeah, apparently not our Lord.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't even know what year it is.

[Don LaGreca]

That's my Lord.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've noticed many Jewish people say, jeez.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, that's a good point. Everyone's very, you know, it's very loose.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg Podcast.

[Adam Schefter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don LaGreca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The ESPN Beach Bash is back. It's coming up Friday, June 27th at Bar A in Lake Como, New Jersey. Head down to the Jersey Shore. Join the Michael K Show and us starting live at 1pM with an appearance for D. Pietro Rothenberg, Bart Carlin and more. We'll have plenty of giveaways for fans in attendance and music from Suit and Mai Tai and Overboard. It's all brought to you by flight by yingling, Spiked Aid, NJ Lottery, and Schefferhofer Grapefruit. Goes. Here comes the happy. You must be at least 21 years or older to enter. Now. The song that I wanted to do that Alan overheard and was a big fan of.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was told Overboard is not prepared to do it. So I'm going to have to try to get in touch with them and figure out what song I'm going to be able to.

[Don LaGreca]

What does that mean? They're not prepared to do it? Well, not in their wheelhouse.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. I don't. I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

So you got to know what they, what they play and then you got to pick something out of their catalog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The band this is what's interesting. The band that I wanted to cover, they do songs by the band. They just don't do this song, which surprises me because not it's not an it's not one of the first songs you think of, but it's not a rarity.

[Don LaGreca]

It's one of their. It's one of their songs that, you know best songs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For me, I think it's pretty good, but we'll figure it out. But it's going to be a good time. Right now we're checking out the weather. Looks like it's going to be in the low 70s.

[Don LaGreca]

But the so it's going to be comfortable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The rain chances are pretty slim. But come on out, it's always a good time. We're going to have a ball and we're all going to be together because it's not that often we're all Together. And by the way, Michael's got baseball. I don't get to see the morning guys all that often. Every once in a while.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, we're doing mashups, right? I hope we're doing the mashups where guys are jumping in the show. We're going to have like four Horseman style segments, people jumping in. I believe we just tag in. We're going to have different. We'll have Rick, we'll have Dave, we'll have Bart, we'll have Carlin. Well, all of them will jump at K. Will jump in. We'll do the whole thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not going to be your typical.

[Don LaGreca]

Maybe don't push me aside and have K step in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, like he dream.

[Adam Schefter]

Like he dreams about, quite literally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, are we going to do the trivia with again with me and Dave and Rothy?

[Don LaGreca]

What do you think? How does that play?

[Adam Schefter]

Sorry, I was just distracted. I did saw it, in case you missed. It popped up on my screen that Michael had a big phone or with Frank the Tank. I didn't. I didn't see that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Has Michael walked with Frank?

[Don LaGreca]

I have to walk with Frank a week or two from now. I think I have a scheduled walk with Frank. I'm very excited about it.

[Adam Schefter]

It's like the man just picks up exercise partners who happen to be.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, listen, I love walking. I'm all in on helping that man continue his weight loss battle. That's a beautiful way to say that.

[Adam Schefter]

Can someone get him some new pants?

[Don LaGreca]

If you see his Mets. Yeah, he's really struggling with the Mets. But. But seriously, like, if we. With the Mets or the pants, everything, the. The trivia battle between Don and Dave.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

It needs to be like, if we produce it. Right.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

It could be very entertaining.

[Adam Schefter]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

Game show. Ish.

[Adam Schefter]

I tried last time. I was a little bit out of my own. No, it was fun. It's just a little tough. I have, like, I'm dealing with Michael at the time, getting bored and like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why can't we do this? All right. They play Family Feud in the morning. And Michael has always dreamed about doing a sports Family Feud feud. That was always his thing. He was going to try to pitch it to espn. What if we did that because we have the right number?

[Don LaGreca]

How do we poll people?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because like, right now, Twitter poll. You got Arthur. We could. Anthony could probably figure this out or however they do it on the morning show, but just make it more specific.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, Bart and I used to do it like this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

In the morning because Bart loves Family Feud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Okay, good.

[Don LaGreca]

And so in the morning, like early in the morning. Right. And Jake remembers, like, so Ray deanhan and I would come up with like five questions to ask people. We would put up Twitter polls in the early and have it, you know, you get a certain amount of hours before the show and then you'd have, you know, like your top three, four answers because the best you could do is four. And then you would see if he could guess what number one answer was and if he didn't, we would tell him what it was and he would debate whether or not it's the right answer. That's what we would do. So you would be able to get a poll people that way. The problem is, is that it's only going to be four. There's no other way to do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But we can get the families together because we'd have. We'll have eight personalities there. Right. So shows Alan K. Say because you want to try to keep the time slot.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, wouldn't you want Kate to host, though? Isn't that his dream to host or want to be on.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't want. He's not Richard Dawson.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are we going to divvy this up? Because then it would be Dpietro, Dave, Bart and Carlin. We would. We're light. Who could host? Unless you're not going to leave somebody out, actually.

[Adam Schefter]

But Kay has a solo show so he could host.

[Don LaGreca]

What's Grosser doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

What's your guy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

How about we take. We take the night guys. We take Butler and we take Grasser with us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll tell you what. In the afternoon's going. I'll get fine. I know Ty's going. So if Ty's going, we can have Michael host. Ty can be on our team. Bart and Carlin could be on the morning show. Team four against four. Michael Hutch.

[Don LaGreca]

There you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then we could do. I think that'd be fun.

[Don LaGreca]

I like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Family Feud.

[Adam Schefter]

I just want to point out, I feel like. Sorry. This whole thing makes me sad because I'm seeing Don come up with a great idea and. And I'm seeing the childlike wonder in.

[Don LaGreca]

His eye and then.

[Adam Schefter]

And then he forgets that he works here. Anything good? We come up with some. Someone will come running in at the last day, tell me I'm wrong. Don. Someone will come in and tell me why the legality of it doesn't work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, because they've.

[Adam Schefter]

There's someone who's gonn.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They do the reason I don't believe that's going to be the case. They do the Family Feud in the morning. Allen just told you he did it with Bart.

[Don LaGreca]

We did it with Bart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So there's no legality there.

[Adam Schefter]

Are we going to have just a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Matter of Anthony or Jacob or whoever wants to producing it is putting the poll up? We'd have to make sure that we. I guess we don't look because then we'll know the answers.

[Adam Schefter]

Four people on each team. We said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Four across on each side with Michael in the middle. Michael's two step.

[Don LaGreca]

Michael's the host.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And we play for points. And then the winner gets whatever. The eternal gratitude of the gods.

[Adam Schefter]

By the way, it would be. By the way, it'd be really fun. You could do multiple segments. It'd be take up most of an hour.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But this is what makes it fun because the Beach Bash is really for the people that go. Right. But listen, it'll still sound good on the radio. We want to entertain those people. We did a great job last year. We had all these different things going on. Remember? It was fun.

[Adam Schefter]

I think Michael hated everything I came up with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He. He did. Because I don't think he cares for you. But, you know, he'll be into the Family Feud. Here's the thing that's crushing.

[Adam Schefter]

Here's the thing that's just very, very tough.

[Don LaGreca]

Where's the ice?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know, he's into the Family Feud. Just don't make it seem like it was your idea.

[Don LaGreca]

Like, get him a stick mike, the whole thing.

[Adam Schefter]

Hook it up, make him feel good. Like he came up with it and it's his thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he did come up with it. His idea, but trying to utilize it for the show, trying to make it work for the Beach Bash. All right, so can we make this happen, guys?

[Don LaGreca]

Let's do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jacob. Jacob again. We get the nod. Like, yeah, if you need me to do it. I guess so. But I'll be one. I'll be in the studio three. Jacob's already got a clock counted, counting down to six on Friday like he wants. He does.

[Adam Schefter]

Come on, Anthony.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you in?

[Don LaGreca]

Way to get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jacob's out. Jacob's already gave me the face.

[Don LaGreca]

Is Anthony going to get out of having to go to the Beach Bash again or is he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anthony is going to be at the beach.

[Don LaGreca]

You're on site, but on site. Shirtless.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He is on site.

[Don LaGreca]

No. Love it. All right, he's ready.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Does this sound doable to You? Yeah, absolutely.

[Alan Hahn]

I think we can make it. I think we can pull this off.

[Don LaGreca]

In the morning every day, every week. We can make it work.

[Adam Schefter]

For the record, doing the morning is going to be different than having all eight of us competing on stage at a live show.

[Don LaGreca]

Just keep it moving. We can keep it moving.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm not worried about the time. We have all day.

[Don LaGreca]

Rhythm.

[Adam Schefter]

What else do you do on these shows? Awkwardly take phone calls from Richard in front of 400?

[Don LaGreca]

We're doing a live from alert Friday, that's for sure.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, no, no, no. That's great. I love what you're thinking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that makes perfect sense.

[Don LaGreca]

I think having mashups is good. You know, just have my. My whole thing is. Is that we have done these. We. We have seen people come out. They have a lot of fun. There will be a video element. People need to know. We have. We have brought a video element to what we do on the show.

[Adam Schefter]

And you think there's gonna be a video element on Friday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can write out of. As you know, you are. You are. Any of what he tells you are wrong.

[Adam Schefter]

Alan is literally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if he's wrong.

[Adam Schefter]

He's spe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His age.

[Adam Schefter]

No, he's speaking out of his ace.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is what he's doing. He's got no idea why I'm saying it.

[Don LaGreca]

Because now we got to do it.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, we got to do it. One would think, right, Alan, the only way it's happening is if you and I steal cameras from ESPN's offices down the street and bring them with us and we film.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Set up an iPad, Radio shack somewhere of GoPros.

[Don LaGreca]

Just live stream the whole show.

[Adam Schefter]

That's our only choice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now we've got the main mic where the band performs during the commercial breaks.

[Don LaGreca]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's always a mic.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then Michael hosts there. We just have to come up with some sort of way to buzz because the two people will go up.

[Adam Schefter]

See, now we're getting into the critical stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just saying it's not that difficult.

[Adam Schefter]

But there are things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But let's get to work. It's Monday. There are people, by the way. I don't want to call anybody out, but there are people.

[Adam Schefter]

Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who work in promotion that their job is to troubleshoot these things. It's Monday. The event is Friday. Let's get to work.

[Adam Schefter]

I like what you're saying.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm motivated.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm going to say something right now to everyone who can hear my voice. The possibility of there being buzzers of some sort existing on Friday. Even if you got what's less than zero? I got a bell.

[Don LaGreca]

How about a bell?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Even if you got one of those staple no buttons. Yeah, that could work.

[Don LaGreca]

I get a bell.

[Adam Schefter]

A bell. I think you'll have to do what we do on Laura never loses every morning which is whoever knows it first just says their own name.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Raise your hand and then Jacob will be listening back here and he can say who he heard first. If it's close. That. That's. That's it. That's all you can do now. By the way, I'm also. I hate to be this guy. If Michael was using that mic on the middle of the stage. We're wearing wired headsets. We can't go up to the stage. Michael has to do it from the middle of the desk from where we would have headsets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We will work out all these bugs. But it's going to be spectacular. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're doing it.

[Adam Schefter]

I like this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And also this mashup. Is Michael going to allow any mashing up between one and three or is he going to want to do his show and take calls on the in Yankees who might have lost the game? Rush and try to keep everybody from jumping off the George Washington Bridge because I want to mash up from one to six. Right. Get all different things.

[Don LaGreca]

Who do Yankees playing Friday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. They're playing the Reds and then I. I didn't look that far ahead. I'm sorry.

[Don LaGreca]

The Rams? No, the Chargers. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Adam Schefter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don LaGreca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

Athletics are at the stadium they're home to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, because Michael's not working it. Is it an apple vehicle Friday or is he taking the Series off that?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know either.

[Don LaGreca]

Got a guess. Apple's taking age Yankees.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that'd be.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't have any now suffering.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jim reminds us that there was a on SNY when they would have the Mets TV versus the Mets radio for Mets trivia. Carlin one time hosted that, but I think Michael's going to want to host, so. No, no offense to Chris.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I mean, wasn't that. The point of it is that we know Michael loves family fee? Wasn't that part of it?

[Don LaGreca]

Isn't it the only reason to do it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, we.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, it's a fun thing to do.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm not in the business of doing things just to make Michael happy. Respectfully, yes, you are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, Brian tweeted schmidt was averaging 15 pitches an inning on Saturday. Two more innings of that and he's at 133. That's absolutely malpractice. And Boone should be fired if he ever allowed a pitcher with Schmidt's injury history to throw that many pitches. All right, then you don't let it go to 133. He was at 103. So let him start the eighth. Maybe he gets out of it in five, six, and then you get to pitch him in the ninth and he doesn't go to 133. I just. Again, you say it's malpractice. Why? How many pitches, Brian? How many pitches did he throw on Saturday in warmups, in between innings? To know that that would be ridiculous. Breaking point, because we're told, again, I'm not killing Boone, but isn't it. I'm just killing the whole philosophy that we have just decided. And it's arbitrary because these guys get hurt anyway. The whole job of rules. You come up with innings and all that, which are which you have no problem thrown away once the game becomes meaningful, once you get into the postseason. While we arbitrarily come up with these numbers. So, Brian, you look at and go, oh, my God, 133 pitches. He'll die. Do we know that? Now, obviously. What's the expression? The horse is out of the barn. So we'll never go back to the way it was before, but we just arbitrarily come up with. That's the number. That's the line of demarcation. If he throws over 120 pitches, he will have Tommy John. His arm will explode. But you threw him 103 pitches. So if you're talking about his injury history and the fact that he's Coming off an injury this year, wouldn't you think maybe 103 might be too many? So are we going to kill Boone if he ends up getting hurt later on in the season by saying, hey, remember that day he had the no hitter, threw seven and they sent him out there in the seventh inning when they could have got him out with like 86, 87 pitches. Like, what's the line? And it just, to me, it just so arbitrary. And if you're telling me you're saving these pictures, you're not. They all end up getting hurt anyway. So that's my point. You're coming up with another. Oh, it would be malpractice. 133. Why?

[Don LaGreca]

It's the same argument people are making about Halliburton's injury last night. Not that he shouldn't have played in Game 7, but the fact that we're seeing so many Achilles injuries now, it's just become a thing. I think there's 10 or more this season in the NBA. There were three, two major players in the playoffs this year. And the complaint is from fans. They're just playing too many games. Too many games.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you hear the Colin Cowherd? He thinks that they should go to best of fives instead of best of seven. These guys are blowing up.

[Don LaGreca]

It's stupid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So everybody's just coming up with it's.

[Don LaGreca]

Just a guess, but the game's different. Just like pitching is different than it was 30 years ago when guys could throw 150 pitches in the first game of a double header and be available in the bullpen in the second one. It's different spin rate, snap. All the stuff that they're doing now with pitching is so much different. It's the same as basketball. The wear and tear and the overuse of a lot of the lower extremities with the moves that they've added to this game. The speed of the game, the pace of game, it's just a different game. We have to learn to accept that that's a real thing. Like, I'm old school like you dog. I'm the one that feels like you know what you're doing. You're taking no hitters now and making them even more rare than they were before. And that sucks because you could be at a game, you could be there, the only game you could afford to go to this year, and you take maybe your son or your daughter, and you're at this game and there's the pitcher and he's five innings in and he hasn't given Up a hit and you tell you you might be able to see history.

[Adam Schefter]

You won't believe this.

[Don LaGreca]

You dialed in, now you're rooting for every out. Here's the problem. Next thing you know, gotta look and go. Wait, Nah, he's at 95. No, he's not gonna get it. What do you mean he's not gonna get it? Dad, he has. No, no, it doesn't matter. They're not gonna let him finish it. What do you mean they're not gonna let him finish it? That sucks. But it's just a real thing now because it's different than it used to be. The same thing as in basketball. Some of these moves that we are watching, step backs, they're just. They're not normal things that you do on a basketball court anymore. High stress moves where you're extending your leg back and pushing off with force. That's going to lead to injuries like that Aaron Rodgers Achilles injury was a matter of somebody falling on him. Much different.

[Adam Schefter]

Completely freaking.

[Don LaGreca]

This is when it's non contact like we've seen from Kevin Durant and several others. It is a simple step back and it pops.

[Adam Schefter]

That was Halle last night, just.

[Don LaGreca]

He just went for a step back push off and it pops. That's the way the game is being played now more than it used to be. It never used to be played like this. Pitching same thing. The way they throw the baseball is different today than they used to because they put way more emphasis on spin rate and the ability to snap the baseball and make it move versus blow it by you at 105 miles an hour.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But they will tell you that they have done the science that tells you X amount of pitches is too much because of this.

[Don LaGreca]

Because of the snap, right? Because of the way you have to snap your wrist and put the force on your ucl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But yet I still see guys get hurt. And then you say, well, why did they have him throw too many pitches now? He was throwing the normal about pitch. He just got hurt like they still get hurt anyway, you know. So everybody will look to Johan Santana. There are 135 pitches and then the next game a million home runs and his career was over. As to see there. But I could tell you the job rules where they treated the kid like he was made of China and he still ended up getting hurt because it was just inevitable.

[Don LaGreca]

He had a porcelain. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Richard of Manhattan. You're on ESPN New York. How are you Richard?

[E]

Hey, Don. Peter Allen. Fellas. Each year for you answer this question. All right, Suppose if Clark Schmidt, Clark Schmidt had 103 pitches after eight, what would have happened in the ninth?

[Don LaGreca]

He would have come in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, they would have probably said.

[Don LaGreca]

And the minute he had trouble, they would have pulled him out right away.

[E]

Peter, what do you think?

[Adam Schefter]

You said 100, 300ft like he had after seven. But let's say, I think, I think after eight you do it at that point.

[E]

Yes, he would have went to the ninth.

[Adam Schefter]

I believe so.

[E]

First batter he walks on seven pitches.

[Don LaGreca]

He'S out of the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that I can understand because now you're doing the math and saying, you know what, for him to get this no hitter, it's going to get out of hand.

[E]

You know what you watched last night? In my opinion, you guys have really pooh, poohed it. But I think what we watched last night was historic.

[Adam Schefter]

Please explain.

[E]

I will. 65 years of watching sports, I have never seen a game. Seven now they've only been 20. Basketball, probably in my lifetime, maybe 12 or 14. But all three of the majors, a game seven and the Super Bowl. So that's 58 right there. Where one player's injury in that seventh game. And I'm not talking about a guy who maybe or maybe not would have been valuable in that game. He was valuable. He had nine points in seven minutes. His injury changed the whole game. I don't think in my memory. Maybe you guys can point it out. In football, it would have had to have been a quarterback. It's never happened. Hockey, I don't know who it could have been. Don. It couldn't have been somebody who could influence a game that got injured in the seventh game of a playoff in the three dream series. And in baseball, it would have had to have been a pitcher in a game seven of a World Series. Can you guys ever imagine?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's interesting, Richard. I can't think of one. I'm sure it has happened. But of somebody of that significance getting hurt early enough in the game to affect the game. It's a good question. Enn's good too. It's coming up next year on Don Hunter Rosenberg on ESPN New York. You want to get the most for your money. That's why more Mazda buyers choose Ramsey Mazda lease a new 2025 CX90 preferred plug in hybrid for 299 for 24 months or buy with 1.9% financing for up to 36 months. Start shopping now at Ramsey Mazda.com choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda call 833-853-2970 for details excludes tax, title and registration. 0 Security Deposit VIN S 1194-329, MSRP 51825 and 63025 thanks for listening to.

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