Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: Hour 3 - Bart Scott Joins the Show

Date: November 4, 2025
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Don La Greca
Guest: Bart Scott (former NFL player, ESPN NY host)

Episode Overview

This hour dives deep into two major New York sports storylines:

• The fallout and future implications of big New York Jets trades at the deadline—rebuilding, asset acquisition, and what’s next at quarterback.
• The ongoing drama surrounding the New York Giants, with pointed debate on Brian Daboll's coaching future, organizational direction, and pivotal personnel decisions.

Featuring guest Bart Scott’s passionate insights and trademark humor, the conversation moves from the personal impact of NFL player funerals to tough calls on Breece Hall and high-stakes hypotheticals about quarterback options. Giants coaching philosophies and Lane Kiffin’s name in the rumor mill are also scrutinized.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bart Scott Reflects on Nick Mangold and NFL Brotherhood

[01:18–02:41]

• The hour began on a somber note with Bart Scott reflecting on attending former teammate Nick Mangold's funeral.
  • “Unfortunately, you never want to get together like that, but it was good to be together and lean on each other in these type of tough times.” — Bart Scott [02:32]
• Personal grief is juxtaposed by the community of former teammates, showing the closeness of NFL circles.

2. Jets’ Blockbuster Trades: Core Reset & Future Strategy

[02:42–07:23]

• Bart unpacks the Jets' surprise decision to trade key players for picks, signaling a shift from "build around a young core" to asset collection and reset.
  • Notable quote: “You have to say, well, we tried it, and do we just double down on our mistake, or do we try and improve and reset?” — Bart Scott [03:17]
• Organization now stockpiles significant draft capital (seven picks in next two drafts, including multiple firsts and seconds).
• Core players like Sauce Gardner are scrutinized for performance and durability—Bart notes, “Sauce isn’t physical…isn’t willing in the run game.” [04:07]
• Trade theme: flexibility over emotional attachment—“You lost two great players, but now you can … get maybe potentially two great players." [05:00]

3. Quarterback Questions: Who Should the Jets Chase?

[05:09–08:33]

• Alan Hahn wonders if the Jets will use their capital to trade for a proven QB. Bart’s controversial suggestion: Kyler Murray.
  • "I would go Kyler Murray, man." — Bart Scott [05:50]
• Calls Murray’s contract “very tradable,” offering flexibility if things don’t work out: “If it doesn't work out, you can still say, hey, I tried…” [06:11]
• The hosts joke about Bart’s history of criticizing Kyler. (“You had a better [nickname], but I'm not gonna say one that's gonna get you in trouble.” — Don Hahn [06:07])
• Bart’s pragmatic: seize a bridge option, then reset for a future prospect if necessary—“kick the can down the road and you get Kyler Murray and you build your team.” [06:38]
• Deems this a cap-clearing move too: “They just knocked $50 million off the annual cap overall today.” [07:09]

4. Jets Fan Angst: Is This Actually a Positive Pivot?

[07:23–08:33]

• Jets fans are reeling from losing beloved young stars, but Bart insists this is the right move:
  • “It's the hand you’re a dealt. They tried to go all in ... Lost games early ... had to make a move. And I think this is a tremendous pivot.” — Bart Scott [07:44]
• They keep some building blocks (Garrett Wilson, young O-linemen), have draft ammo, and flexibility.

5. Breece Hall’s Future: Tag, Trade, or Pay?

[09:04–12:18]

• Alan raises the Breece Hall contract dilemma; Bart’s response: “I'm about to give Breece a nice bag. ... $14 million a year because ... Breece hall is in my opinion, top 10.” [09:22, 09:41]
• Prefers a three-year deal, front-loaded, over tagging him—cites cap flexibility.
• Peter presses: Hall is frustrated (“very frustrated in this system ... doesn’t feel like he gets the ball nearly enough.” [11:02])
• Bart retorts: “Jameer Gibbs is the centerpiece [in Detroit], why can't Breece hall be [that for the Jets]?” [11:47]
• Alternative: tag and trade Hall next year if it stalls.

6. QB Wishlist Hypotheticals: Burrow, Flacco, and More

[12:18–14:36]

• Rosenberg goes big dreaming: What about Joe Burrow?
  • “I'm reaching out to Joe Cool... bring you here, put you in New York, big market...” — Peter Rosenberg [12:44]
• Bart dismisses the idea as “a lot of money, man” [13:07] and says injury/turf history makes it a tough sell for top QBs like Burrow.
• Alan: “But damn, the upside’s better than Kyler Murray, no?” [17:08]
• Financial and injury risks keep this hypothetical from realism.

7. Jets Trade Fallout: Locker Room & Division Trade Philosophy

[38:42–44:15]

• Jermaine Johnson posts on social media about staying with the Jets; Alan and Peter discuss the emotional toll and business side.
  • “He sounds like a guy that knows that he was on the table and if somebody would have made an offer, he would have been gone.” — Peter Rosenberg [39:33]
• Woody Johnson is speculated to have blocked in-division trades for Breece Hall; considered “bad business” by hosts.
  • “That's bad business... it wouldn't necessarily be bad business to Bart’s point because maybe Hall can be a part of the future.” — Alan Hahn [41:48]

8. GIANTS: Dable on the Hot Seat, Organizational Turmoil

[23:15–36:46, 47:12–51:02]

• Giants’ incompetence and culture under Brian Daboll are argued. Alan is relentless in calling out repeated two-win seasons:
  • “What stability? Two and seven, Three straight years. Two and seven. ... The guy can't coach. He's a good offensive coordinator. He works well with quarterbacks. But he stinks as a coach. He's got to go out. Goodbye.” — Alan Hahn [48:04]
• Mel Kiper Jr. is quoted (audio and recaps) as saying Dable and GM Shane should get a reprieve, but Alan and Don destroy this logic. [24:19–31:22]
  • “You cannot...bring Brian back on the last year of his contract and see what happens.” — Alan Hahn [26:05]
• Don wonders if Dable played the rookie QB card “too early,” losing the organizational honeymoon period. [27:11–29:16]
• All agree: Keeping Dable, just for a young QB’s “stability,” is delusional after so much dysfunction (“I’m on a cracked chair...but the chair’s falling apart.” — Alan Hahn [48:05])

9. Lane Kiffin as Giants Coach? Reality and Risk

[33:13–36:46]

• Lane Kiffin is openly speculated as a prime coaching candidate due to his connection with rookie QB Jackson Dart.
  • “Lane Kiffin is an infinitely better coach than Brian Dable. I don’t think I need to convince you of that.” — Alan Hahn [33:19]
• Discussion of buyout, NFL salaries, and marketability.
• Skepticism due to past failed college-to-NFL transitions and potential for “meltdown” moments.
  • “How amazing would he be in this market though?...Every day, we’d have to play audio.” — Peter Rosenberg [35:02]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I had a lot [of nicknames for Kyler Murray]. Mighty Mouse. Depends on the day.” — Bart Scott [06:02]
• “You either go with the draft or you go Kyler Murray, because the contract is already locked in.” — Bart Scott [14:29]
• “The only thing that could really kill him for sure is if the quarterback completely falls apart. ... jealous of the Jets today because they found their direction.” — Alan Hahn [30:55]
• “We really need to let. Take the deep dive. 2 and 7 every year.” — Alan Hahn [49:33]
• “Sometimes it's just right there. It's just right there in front of you.” — Peter Rosenberg [49:30]
• “He works well with quarterbacks. But he stinks as a coach. He's got to go out. Goodbye.” — Alan Hahn [48:04]
• [On in-division trades blocked] “If you got a chance to get a pick for a player you don't think is a part of your future and you didn't do it because you didn't want to make the Patriots. ... I worry that’s what happened.” — Peter Rosenberg [42:20, 43:04]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:18 – Bart Scott joins, reflects on Nick Mangold's funeral
• 02:42 – Immediate reactions to the Jets’ trade deadline activity
• 05:09 – Quarterback targets: Murray, bridge concepts, and contract impact
• 09:04 – Breece Hall’s contract future, strategy, and frustrations
• 12:42 – Big-splash QB ideas: Burrow, Flacco, hypothetical plans
• 23:15 – Giants coaching debate: Is Dable done? Mel Kiper Jr. audio
• 27:11 – Did Dable play the rookie card too early?
• 33:13 – Lane Kiffin as possible Giants hire
• 38:42 – Locker room fallout and division trade refusals
• 47:12 – Callers, fan frustration, and the illusion of coaching “stability”

Episode’s Tone

• Classic New York sports radio: passionate, irreverent, combative, and thick with black humor. Bart Scott’s “fluency in Bart” and the hosts’ Knicks/Giants heartbreak lend authenticity and occasional hilarity to heated debates.
• Hahn is analytical and relentless. Rosenberg is emotional and big-idea-driven. Don La Greca keeps the banter moving and leans sarcastic.
• The hosts pull no punches—whether discussing the pain of trading stars, burning through coaches, or the “curse” of New York football turf.

For listeners seeking an inside look at Jets and Giants chaos, and the mindset of reeling (yet ever-strategic) New York sports media, this episode is essential.