Hour 3: Baseball & GoT

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg - Hour 3: Baseball & GoT

Podcast Information:

• Title: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
• Hosts: Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
• Episode: Hour 3: Baseball & GoT
• Release Date: June 25, 2025
• Description: The podcast features ESPN New York and New Jersey legend Don LaGreca, sportswriter and broadcaster Alan Hahn, and Hip Hop veteran and WWE personality Peter Rosenberg. They discuss New York sports, entertainment, and more.

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with the hosts briefly mentioning the show's schedule and platforms before diving into the main topics.

Notable Quote:

• Peter Rosenberg ([00:04]): "That sounds like heaven to me."

2. Game of Thrones Discussion

The conversation shifts to the cultural phenomenon of Game of Thrones, exploring the hosts' personal takes on the series and its impact.

• Don LaGreca ([00:23]): Raises the question of whether he would enjoy Game of Thrones, sparking a discussion on the show's appeal.
• Peter Rosenberg ([01:04]): Expresses his affinity for revenge-themed narratives, referencing Braveheart and relating it to Game of Thrones.
• Don LaGreca ([03:00]): Shares his enjoyment of the climactic battle scenes, particularly against the White Walkers, despite widespread criticism of the final season.

Key Insights:

• Quality vs. Content: While some listeners criticize Game of Thrones for its last season, Don appreciates the development of the characters and major battle scenes.
• Sex and Violence: The hosts acknowledge the show's heavy use of sex and violence but agree that these elements are not the primary reasons for its acclaim. Instead, strong character development and storytelling are highlighted as core strengths.

Notable Quotes:

• Don LaGreca ([02:02]): "People act as if the whole season was bad when really the final couple of episodes felt rushed."
• Peter Rosenberg ([03:53]): "Good sex and violence, I gotta tell."

3. Baseball Analysis: Pitching and Analytics

A significant portion of the episode delves into the current state of baseball, focusing on pitching strategies, the impact of analytics, and the strain on bullpens.

• Pitching Dilemmas: Peter criticizes the modern approach to pitching, arguing that the reliance on analytics to limit pitchers' outings is detrimental to the game's entertainment value and the pitchers' longevity.

Key Insights:

• Historical Perspective: Peter reminisces about classic games, such as the 1991 World Series Game 7, highlighting how pitching duels were once a celebrated aspect of baseball.
• Current Challenges: The hosts discuss how modern strategies, like limiting pitchers to 100 pitches, are leading to overuse and increased injuries, ultimately weakening bullpens.
• Fan Engagement: There's concern that these changes are making the game less enjoyable for fans who appreciate strategic pitching and less predictable outcomes.

Notable Quotes:

• Peter Rosenberg ([05:06]): "Negativity and panic... seems to move the needle more than if a team is on cruise control."
• Peter Rosenberg ([08:22]): "These pitchers are programmed. 100 pitches, an arbitrary number. Got to get them out of the game."

4. Listener Interactions: Game of Thrones and Baseball

Throughout the episode, listeners call in to share their opinions and experiences related to the discussed topics.

• Call from Jacob ([02:15]): Confirms his strong affinity for Game of Thrones, albeit with reservations about the last season.
• Call from Ian ([21:10]): Shares his journey with Game of Thrones, starting late but quickly becoming engrossed in the series.
• Call from Flavio ([32:36]): Discusses the financial aspects of baseball analytics and its impact on the game's integrity and entertainment value.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian ([21:27]): "It was a phenomenal show... politics, power, legacy, betrayal. Everything that makes sports great, but on a global scale with real consequences."
• Flavio ([33:51]): "Analytics is ruining the game personally, and it's not for every team. For some teams, it works, but I don't know, I just not a fan."

5. Comparative Analysis: Game of Thrones vs. Breaking Bad

The hosts debate which series would be more engaging for a skeptical viewer, ultimately leaning towards Breaking Bad as a more universally appealing option.

Key Insights:

• Storytelling and Acting: Breaking Bad is praised for its compelling storytelling and outstanding acting, making it a safer recommendation.
• Engagement Factor: Game of Thrones, while rich in spectacle and intricate plots, requires more commitment and concentration, which might be challenging for some viewers.

Notable Quotes:

• Don LaGreca ([44:56]): "If I hadn't seen either of them, which one would you campaign the most for?"
• Peter Rosenberg ([45:07]): "Breaking Bad is amazing, and Don needs to get the lead out and watch it."

6. Final Discussions and Event Promotions

The episode wraps up with the hosts promoting upcoming events and reflecting on listener feedback, maintaining a friendly and humorous tone.

• Event Promotion: Announcement of the ESPN New York Beach Bash, including details about performances, giveaways, and guest appearances.
• Listener Feedback: Hosts read and react to online comments praising their discussions on Game of Thrones and baseball.

Notable Quotes:

• Don LaGreca ([43:21]): "It's him. I'm going to watch it."
• Peter Rosenberg ([43:49]): "Don, did you tweet rest in peace to Sydney Part?"

Conclusion

In this episode, Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg provide an engaging blend of entertainment and sports analysis. They offer thoughtful critiques of modern baseball strategies while passionately defending the storytelling prowess of Game of Thrones. Through listener interactions, the hosts foster a community-driven conversation that appeals to fans of both sports and epic television dramas.

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Highlighted Quotes with Timestamps:

• Peter Rosenberg ([05:06]): "Negativity and panic... seems to move the needle more than if a team is on cruise control."
• Don LaGreca ([02:15]): "Jacob, you revenge, you a Game of Thrones guy."
• Peter Rosenberg ([03:53]): "Good sex and violence, I gotta tell."
• Ian ([21:27]): "It was a phenomenal show... politics, power, legacy, betrayal."

This summary encapsulates the main discussions and insights from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Don LaGreca]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8:80. ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Five o' clock in the big city. Don Han in Rosenberg with you till 6:30.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, you just brought up right there, Don Kache. That could be the rest of the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What I brought up during the break?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, yeah, well, Don just asked me when we were talking about tv and Don just said, did I miss something with Game of Thrones? Should I watch it? And I love Game of Thrones. And now it has me thinking, would Don love Game of Thrones?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think I would, I just.

[Don LaGreca]

Do you have any. But I'm not the typical quintessential. You think I would love Game of Thrones either? And I loved it. I ask you, the people, would Don love Game of Thrones? What do you think? I need someone else to weigh in on this. Do you like any sort of medieval feeling, old timey?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I loved Braveheart, but that wasn't because it was old timey. I just liked the whole revenge angle. If you, if there's revenge.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, the revenge is a lot of Game of Thrones.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, well maybe that can get me into it.

[Don LaGreca]

Jacob, you revenge, you a Game of Thrones guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Big Game of Thrones guy, minus the last season, but big Game of Thrones.

[Don LaGreca]

By the way, do you mean that or do you feel obligated to say it? Tell me the truth. Like do you. You really didn't like the last season of Game of Thrones or. Everyone says that. So now we have to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no, no. So the way I started watching Game of Thrones was I tuned in during that break, that two year break of the last season. So I completely binge watched season one through seven.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, it was Covid too, right? Was that Covid or. No, right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pre Covid.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. Pre Covid. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I was, I was amped for the last season. So it was a couple of rush scenes and like little things. Oh no, there were production wise that they could have did better, but the story wasn't that great either. Like towards the end of it, I.

[Don LaGreca]

Still, I got to tell you, I still enjoyed like finally seeing the battle with the White Walkers. I still enjoyed it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that was a hell of a.

[Don LaGreca]

People act as if the whole season was bad when really the final couple of episodes felt rushed. But I personally loved it. So I'm. You think Don would like it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think I was telling Anthony just now, I think Don would make fun of the way they talk and, like, some of that thing. But in terms of, like, the actual story, not really. I don't think he'll be, like, grabbed into it because.

[Don LaGreca]

But it's so much sex and violence. There is, but there don. A lot of nudity.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like a slow roll. Like, that first episode is good, but then kind of like, what kind of animal do you think I am?

[Don LaGreca]

A man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, I'm not going to like a show, but because I'm going to see naked women, you know, I'm going to fight through it. He thinks you're barbaric. Like, the thing that really bothers me, like, one of my favorite movies. And I tell people this and they're a little taken aback by it, but I stand by. I put my top. Top five movies. One of the movies that would be in my top five is Boogie Nights. I think it's brilliant. I think it's an absolutely fantastic movie. When I tell people that, I go.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it was great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All the porn stars and all the naked women is like, that's not why I love it. And I'm offended you think that's the reason.

[Don LaGreca]

But that do you know. But, you know, animals. Then let's, you know, barbarians. Because people know Boogie Nights is a great movie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

No, people know that, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But do they think it's a great movie? Because there's Anderson. Yeah, it's amazing. It's fantastic.

[Don LaGreca]

But everyone knows that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know that. Obviously, you're not the people I.

[Don LaGreca]

Whenever I'm friends with, degenerates.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it may be, but when I bring that up, that the first thing they tell.

[Don LaGreca]

What I'm saying is you can't. You can't remove from Game of Thrones that there's a lot of edgy violence and sex.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can't.

[Don LaGreca]

It's in there. It's part of it. But that is not what makes it great. What makes it great is characters.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, well, that's what the heels out there. And I'm like, please.

[Don LaGreca]

No. It's a bonus, though. Good sex and violence, I gotta tell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You, as much as that can be pleasing to the male, if it doesn't fit in the plot and it just seems gratuitous, it could turn me off to the show.

[Don LaGreca]

I feel you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, what are we doing? This. This doesn't. This just seems like they're just trying.

[Don LaGreca]

We still have an hour before enn. And let's. Let's. And let's be honest. Can we just. Can we have real talk for a moment here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What real talk?

[Don LaGreca]

Obviously there's stuff to talk about with regard to the Yankees and Mets being terrible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Don LaGreca]

But at this very moment in time that we're living the only true sports subject that exists. I'm just being honest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, hear me out for a second, all right. I don't think I'm going to like this.

[Don LaGreca]

You have a Knicks coaching search that's going nowhere.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Don LaGreca]

It's nothing. So it's a nothing burger. And then the only other great sports topic of this moment is the fact that the two teams that our city cares about are God awful. It's not a bad time to have a Game of Thrones conversation. That's all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but I'm saying that's, that's your opinion. Could be also a bad time because there's a lot to talk about on what's wrong with these teams.

[Don LaGreca]

I know, but when the best thing to talk about is horrible news about both teams, it's unexplainable. Horrible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's not about. But we're not pom pom waivers. Like if we were the Mets or Yankees booster club, then I would say, you know, we're out of trouble.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't mean that it's not suffer for us to talk about. I mean it may not be stuff that the fan base is super excited to discuss.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Though I disagree. I think they're more hyped to talk about this than they are to talk about how good their team is. Dude, I've done this for a long time. And you experience.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, for sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Yankees are having a historic season. Judges hitting like a thousand home runs and all anybody wanted to complain about is why is Joey Gallo still on the team? Right. Because I think negativity and panic, whether it's artificial or real, seems to move the needle more than if like a team is on cruise control and like wake me in October because they're invested in these teams. That's the thing about baseball, is that there's no shutting down. If football, you feel bad after your team loses on Monday and then you kind of just reset and then come Friday you kind of hype yourself back up again. Basketball and hockey, as much as I do think it's harder to make the playoffs now because of the format in the NHL, it's hard to really get into full blown panic and you might go two, three days between games, so you kind of reset yourself. You never reset in baseball. Every day there's a game, every day there's a moment and right now, over.

[Don LaGreca]

The last couple of weeks, every day there's a wine. No, no, I hear you. I'm just. I don't know, it's like I'm sensing apathy in some ways. Really, I'm sensing some apathy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, 1-800-919-3776 at what level are you.

[Don LaGreca]

But if you're really apathetic, are you going to call?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's interesting. I never like to have the phone call. Why don't people care about this? 1, 800, 912 then they must care, but they want in denial of it. But to honor the tease though, is that I'm going to sound like the old man in the club. But every time I think about what's happened to pitching in Major League Baseball, I think Back to game seven of the 1991 World Series. Now, a lot of you guys weren't alive. Anthony Pusick was not alive. 97. 91. Oh, yeah, I wasn't alive. All right. You were negative three. You might have been on your parents mind, but not first and foremost on their mind. When in a game seven of the World Series between the Twins and the Braves, John Smoltz pitched against Jack Morris. John Smoltz went seven and a third. Then Mike Stanton came in and then Pena came in and ended up losing the game. Jack Morris pitched 10 innings of shutout baseball and the Twins win Game 7 and the World Series 1. Nothing would not happen today. Can't happen today. Impossible for it to happen today. Like there's something wrong when you have a sport that one of the best parts of it is a great pitching duel. Two pitchers that don't want to leave the mound, that aren't thinking about pitch count, not thinking about tomorrow, going out there and pitching their brains out to win a champion. That would not happen today. Game 7 of the 2025 World Series, I would bet my life you would not see two pitchers, one of them going into the eighth inning, the other one going through 10, not happening. And not because these pitchers don't want to do it, don't have the heart to do it. They're told not to do it because we've got seven guys in the bullpen that can throw 100 miles per hour that are dying to get in. And you got managers sitting in the dugout like trying to find a vein to inject themselves with H to get them into the game. You almost twitch. You can almost see Boone and Mendoza and Francona and all the managers of baseball. They're twitching in the dugout. Can't wait to get to the bullpen by starting pitchers mowing them down. I got to get to the bullpen.

[Don LaGreca]

Did you say H?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right, lady.

[Don LaGreca]

H. Black tar heroin right into your veins. Yeah, sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you see it when they're strung out. That's where these managers are when they can't get to their bullpen. It's like, I need to get to the damn bullpen.

[Don LaGreca]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now the starters knowing that once they get to 100 pitches, the veins will come right out of their skin and explode blood that they don't feel like they want to pitch after a hundred pitches. And now you get to the bullpen and what happens, it's happening to the Mets and it's happening to the Yankees is that once you get to the bullpen every single day, getting 12 outs, getting nine outs, well, then you get to the end of June and now your bullpen sucking wind. How do you expect to survive? We've put in our brains here. And this is what was so misleading with the video that we sent out earlier. Like, I'm not getting on Boone for taking out Schmidt. That's the way the game is now. I'm getting on the game. I'm killing the game. Not the rule. Everybody has decided arbitrarily, by the way, and Michael talked about this today, piggybacking off what I said last week, that these pitchers are programmed. 100 pitches, an arbitrary number. Got to get them out of the game. They're going to get hurt. Guess what? They still get hurt. And now you waste your bullpen, and by the time you get to the money of the season, your bullpen sucking wind because your pitchers can't get more than like 15 outs, 18 outs in an outing. It's not. It's not working, man. And you are also robbing the fans of what could be a really great aspect of the sport. Remember the Blake Snell in Tampa where they're taking him out of game? Like, I want to see a great. What's the matter with a great pitchers duel? Everything's got to be about offense. Everything's got to be about home runs, winning games, 10, nine. Peter even. Even being a guy that's not a super baseball fan, you wouldn't sit back, watch. You watch a pitcher, like, pitch a gem. Like two pitchers going at it, one, nothing, a bunch of strikeouts, like, really looking good and just take in a rush to get him out. Or just saying, I wonder if he can get a complete game. I'm wondering if he could do something special today.

[Don LaGreca]

Of course, that's part of the game, if you enjoy the game at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it's supposed to be a part of the game. And oh, by the way, make it make sense to me, people. These are still the guys you'll pay $35 million a year to. And you don't want to get them hurt because you're paying them $35 million. But meanwhile, when the money part comes to the game, you're taking them out. You would think in a real world, If I'm paying $35 million for a pitcher, I'm going to want to see him go out there and pitch that seventh inning into the eighth inning. It's just ridiculous. And they're still getting hurt. If you were to tell me, don't look at it, these guys, when, when they, when we get them out early, they don't get hurt. But all the guys that pitched a lot of pitches, they get hurt. These guys still get hurt. So it's not working, but, you know, you're making the game less fun. Maybe people don't like pitchers duels. Maybe they've already programmed themselves to not care about it. But now I think it's hurting teams like the Mets and Yankees, whose bullpens are not getting the job done because you can't go out there and get out after out after out every single night. The Yankees right now, when they play today, will be their 16th consecutive day with a game. And my starting pitchers are only going to go five and a third, five and two thirds, maybe six innings. That means I've got my bullpen to get between nine and 12 outs every single night. And to Richard's point is that it's not like I'm bringing in a guy out of the bullpen. It's going to throw three innings. No, he's going to throw, he's going to hit. He's going to face his allotted three guys, and then he's going to be taken out for the next guy. Because you can't have a righty face a lefty, you can't have a lefty face a righty. So we got to do the whole matchup game. And even though they still have the rule that you can't, you can't be taken out with less than three batters face, they still end up going four or five deep in the bullpen. It's ridiculous. It's, it's. I think it's killing the game.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it's, it's. There's a lot of things right now that baseball is doing that is not making things better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Analytics do not translate into entertainment. They translate into what they believe is gonna help you win. But I always bring this up, Peter. If everybody's doing it, everybody can't win.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, that's why I don't understand it. Right. Everyone has the same analytics. So if we're all running the same thing, it's really giving you all the best chance to win.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How does that work?

[Don LaGreca]

Doesn't someone have to come up with a new strategy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I have.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm getting information. You, you're getting information? It's the same information. I just don't know if that's always going to. And then, by the way, let's just be honest. We look back at the last. If you look at the last six years of champions, Don, in that how many of them were strictly analytical?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they're all some, but strictly some.

[Don LaGreca]

No, but which ones are the most?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, here's the thing. The Dodgers are as analytical as the Yankees. But I have seen times where they, they will break from that. Red Sox, too, and certainly the Texas Rangers. You think Bruce Bochy's all in on analytics.

[Don LaGreca]

And even the nationals in 2019, they weren't a super heavy duty analytical team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's starting to get to the point where that's just the way the game is right now. And everybody's doing it. Even, you know, Richard said, you look at the box scores, the Yankees and Mets aren't the only guys that are pulling their starters early. Now, Montas, I understand yesterday, he's, he just came back and pitched all year. I get that. But nobody's giving you innings. Nobody. And they don't want you to listen.

[Don LaGreca]

When we were a kid, we wanted people to pitch, pitchers to pitch for innings, and we wanted hitters to hit for average. Go look in a box score, you know what you're not going to see done innings or average. It's all, everyone bats 240. Honestly, it's the things that we thought were important and they don't prioritize anymore.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's pretty crazy. 1-800-919-3776, Rodney in Denver. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, man?

[C]

Hey, Don. Hey, Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's up?

[C]

This is a great, this is a great topic. And I just wanted to bring up the financial aspect. I mean, analytics, I'll put that on the side. But I think it's all related. You know, baseball has been making so much money over the last 20 years where the valuation of these organizations jump from millions to civilians. And you Know these guys, they treat their players like assets. Like they're, they're valuable assets that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars over five, seven, whatever, ten years. And, and they just suck the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Out of the game.

[C]

They treat them like assets, so they.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bubble wrap them up.

[C]

They, they try to minimize injuries, which.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ironically, like you pointed out, you know.

[C]

They get injured more. It's just, it's a, it's frustrating because we all love baseball and we all see, we all watch the product and it just looks so mechanical. It looks so. I mean, when you see a guy constantly trying to swing for the fences.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like Voltie, and he's not a home.

[C]

Run hitter, it's not fun. It's just not fun.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If Aaron Judge is swinging for the fences, it makes sense. He's one of the most prolific home run hitters in the history of the sport. But when I see Jazz Chisholm do it, I say, come on, it's ridiculous. But just like the three pointer in the NBA, this is the way to win. Home runs can't be defended. If I hit a home run, I don't have to worry about moving the runner over. I don't have to sacrifice anybody. But home runs lead to more strikeouts, and nothing happens when that, when, when, when you see a strikeout. Allen Morristown, you're on. Don Hanna, Rosenberg.

[C]

Hi, how are you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good, man.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, Alan.

[C]

So I, I agree with you guys entirely. I think analytics could be important, but when an athlete is hot, an athlete's hot. And like last night, Boone took out the pitcher. God knows why he took out that pitcher. Rodin didn't want to come out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he did. That's, that's the difference. We found out later on he asked to come out of the game.

[C]

Okay, but, you know, generally those starting pitchers, I think, look, I think they should stay in longer. I also will say that all these pitchers do throw with a lot more velocity than they did 20 years ago. And I think that is affecting their.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, well, that. But that's also, you know, like, I always went through this with deGrom, right? Like, it would bother me. It's like, all right, he's pitching lights out for six innings and then has to come out. And now my bullpen ends up blowing it for him. Remember, deGrom would lose all these games, one nothing because the Mets wouldn't hit. And. Or the bullpen would give it up after he left the game. And I'm like, why don't you dial it down just a little bit so you can pitch the Seventh and eighth inning. No, no, no. This is what he does. They'd rather have him lights out for six than maybe compromised a little bit through seven and eight. Well, exactly how good are you, Peter? Imagine if there was a quarterback out there that like, wasn't able to finish the game. Like, then obviously you're not good enough. All right, you're great for six, but there's still nine more outs I need to get. And I'm losing a lot of games because of just. It's frustrating. Yeah, he was lights out for six innings. All right, now the game, scoreless going to the seventh. And what did it matter because now you're not available Because I had to throw the hundred mile per hour slider instead of maybe dialing it down just a bit so that I can economize my pitches to where I can be there in the seventh and eighth inning.

[Don LaGreca]

I know we had some audio from Rodin. Do we, do we know what his actual logic was? What did he say? Hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't. I. We. All we have is Boone. Did you think about sending Rodan out for one more inning?

[C]

No, no.

[Don LaGreca]

Once he came, I knew he was.

[C]

Kind of done on 100 degree night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like that, you know, steering.

[C]

Steered pretty good at bat against him in his last time he was done there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well, here he is, Rodon, on his out his outing.

[C]

Wells, you know, had a good game plan up there and just went up there to execute and defensively, you know.

[Don LaGreca]

Had my back again and got through six and just, you know, I thought.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a clean game.

[Don LaGreca]

Were you done at 88 pitches?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aaron felt pretty strongly about that.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, I mean, I was. Usually I'm going back out kind of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thing, but I was, I was huffing and puffing a little bit.

[Don LaGreca]

Usually I go back out there and I want, I mean, in most situations, want the ball.

[C]

But, you know, I could tell just.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, I was gassed after they.

[C]

Had some good at bats and had.

[Don LaGreca]

Some long at bats and it was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just one of those days where, you know, the energy was coming out of me quick. Well, that's not good. I mean, I mean, 88 pitches, I understand it's hot. And like, listen good on him. He didn't want to put the team in jeopardy. Hey, Skip, I don't got anything. He did the right thing. I'm not going to kill him for doing the right thing. I'm just going to ask, why were you gassed?

[Don LaGreca]

Because it was hot. Why were you huffing and puffing? Because a couple of that's the thing. I hated hearing from Boone. Yeah, well, you know, the last at bat was pretty tough. You can't. People have tough at bats. That's part of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But again, not everything's three pitches tough at bat. You still threw 88 pitches. If you had thrown 120 through six, I'd say, you know what? You know, that's a lot of pitches. I guess they really worked counts. They must have fouled a lot of pitches off. It's 88 pitches.

[Don LaGreca]

Don the Babe would be halfway through his night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The only thing hot was the cigar he was smoking between innings.

[Don LaGreca]

That's right. And the chick he was waiting for after the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I don't know if you need.

[Don LaGreca]

To go, you know, he's halfway to 176.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what he's doing?

[Don LaGreca]

That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not. But I'm not asking these guys to throw 200 pitches either. It's just that. So it's acceptable. Not. It was just hot. They worked. I just couldn't do it. Okay, well. Cost the team a game. Ian or Ian? Not sure. From Cranford. You're on ESPN New York. You've got a Games of Thrones opinion. You think I'd like it? I think you'll love it.

[C]

It's Ian from Cranford. First time, long time, boys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can't believe my first call is going to be not about sports here. That's all right, Don. I think you're going to love Game of Thrones. And this is coming from a guy who really, kind of wasn't even really into it.

[C]

Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't come in until the Red Wedding. And then I was like, oh, a show that's gonna be like this. All right. I gotta see what it's all about.

[Don LaGreca]

You showed up at the Red Wedding. Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

So then I went back, I powered.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Through it, and, man, it's little alligation done. If and when you finish it, you.

[C]

Might adjust the list a little bit. That's how strongly I think you'll like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's the thing.

[Don LaGreca]

It is iconic.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the thing. Whenever I come up with a list and this happened with Breaking Bad, like when I had the greatest television characters of all time on Covid. During COVID I didn't have Walter White. And I remember Carlin jumping me. And now I regret not having it. I just hadn't seen it at the time. Would I include Game of Thrones on my list? Game of Thrones gets thrown out and, you know, the other show that gets thrown out a lot. When I ever talk about great shows.

[Don LaGreca]

What's that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Wire?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, always.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Always everybody throws that out. So. But let me just ask you this, and we'll move on. So is it just because it's medieval and dragons and all that, is it just awe inspiring? Like, is it eye candy or is there, like, real great storytelling? Is the acting incredible or is it just kind of a wham, bam, thank you, ma' am? Like, it is just so spectacular for the eyeball. But is there real storytelling? Is there real acting in it?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, Game of Thrones is everything, right? It's the best storytelling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, that's it.

[Don LaGreca]

Here's the thing. Someone like Michael, for example, he's out. He's not paying attention. It's. It is a show where if you get on your phone, you will not know what's happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

All right. You are not watching it between breaks. I'll say that that makes it different. You would agree, guys. That is the separation between that and Breaking Bad. You're not watching during commercial, Don. You're sitting down at night. You're going to give yourself an hour. You're flying on a plane. You need to concentrate. Because learning the characters, remembering who's related to who, it. There is work that needs to be done with the show. I would say the payoff is so worth it. I mean, even the first season, guys, and I disagree with even Jacob, it's not hard to get in early because early on, when they start letting you know who's in a relationship with who, you're like, wait, who's dating?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, once that happens. And then you find. They find out. And then.

[Don LaGreca]

And then, yeah, when you find out who's dating earlier, you go, wait, are they supposed to be dating? And they're like, oh, but. Oh, and then other people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like that. I want to be able to think, I want to be able to remember. I think all that's important.

[Don LaGreca]

I think there's a segment of our audience who would be very excited with Don. Game of Thrones updates. I think there's. Don't you think there's a segment that's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Usually I have to feel like Breaking Bad better. Listen, once I saw Breaking Bad, better Call Saul, like, immediately. Even El Camino, I had to throw that in, too, because I was all in. I was completely. But I was in going it.

[Don LaGreca]

El Camino was fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think I felt like I had to watch it just because I didn't want to be left with it. But it wasn't like, oh, my God, I can't believe they shot Howard in the head. It's great storytelling and great acting.

[Don LaGreca]

The shooting of Howard, you just reminded me of that. Was that in El Camino?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it wasn't.

[Don LaGreca]

That was a. That was one of the worst I. Period. Well, no, no. You know, was the pure evil about it is that the whole relationship with Howard and Saul. Saul was so bad to him. He was so. It was so cruel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was so cruel. And in a lot of ways, I kind of enjoyed Better Call Saul a little bit more. Maybe that's recency bias because.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, that's interesting because it is much slower. Much slower than Breaking Bad, the fourth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Episode when Mike is talking about the death of his son. And listen, Jonathan Banks is a fine actor. He has been in a ton of stuff. He was the bad guy in Beverly Hills Cop. That's the last time I saw him before all of a sudden he showed up in Breaking Bad. Right. The acting in that scene, the story, it just didn't. It blows you away. So it isn't any eye candy. It's all just. It's just incredible storytelling and incredible acting. That's what's going to win me over. If you tell me it's in there, then I'll. I'll check it out. It's how many seasons? How many episodes?

[Don LaGreca]

We talk seven. It's seven seasons.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's HBO, so it can't be.

[Don LaGreca]

More than 65 episodes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they're all an hour, obviously.

[Don LaGreca]

Maybe 70. Yeah, all. An hour.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, all hour. You know what? Sit down. We'll see. He's considered you're Some Thrones. Is being considered the Thrones.

[Don LaGreca]

And then, by the way. And then there is now a prequel that I love as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

That were two seasons in. You watching that, Jacob?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, I'm tuned in.

[Don LaGreca]

I think it's fantastic.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The fact that we got to wait 20, 26, though, is not.

[Don LaGreca]

They're saying 26.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, 20. Somewhat 26.

[Don LaGreca]

Summer 26. Let's not get crazy a year from now, okay? That's upsetting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It'll be here before you know it. Before you know it.

[Don LaGreca]

I know. And Maya's going to be talking by then. I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She's going to be watching with you.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

Excuse me?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Swap aside would also be swap aside. That's not that. That wouldn't. I didn't sound like a character.

[Don LaGreca]

No. Swap aside. Almost.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What about what I just did? No. Yeah. I don't know.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know why it's not. And they do sound British. They do have British accents, but he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Got lost in the aisle somewhere, maybe. Swap aside. We should ram the thunder. Swap aside. Did you ever see Scrooged?

[Don LaGreca]

Of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The classic, right?

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or the Bill Murray vehicle when he goes to the homeless shelter and they think that he's the Shakespearean actor and he pretends to do this. It's kind of like that too. And they're all like, that's how you.

[Don LaGreca]

That's how you. Can I. Can we. I want to take this call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Don LaGreca]

Kyle in Denver. I'm really interested in what you have to say.

[C]

Hey, guys, what's going on?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, this is Kyle from Denver. I've been a Dan Levitard show in the morning, afternoon drive the ESPN in the afternoon for better part of a decade.

[C]

So, you know, it goes on there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter, I love when you show up on there. It's like my world's colliding. Don, they just don't understand you.

[Don LaGreca]

They're so curious about Don.

[C]

So curious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So curious. I love when they. When they bring him.

[Don LaGreca]

I would describe them as.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I mean, who is it? I actually followed your guys show after.

[C]

The case show because Don McGregor is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Actually my favorite media member of all time. There was no way, number one. How about that? Thank you. The crazy thing is you share the same birthday as my father, believe it or not. February 13th. And he also reads like really weird biographies. Wow. So I don't know if that's an astrological thing, if it's an Aquarius thing or whatever. What year was he anyway? Let me get. He was 1962. All right, so only. Only six years. A little older. Yeah, a little older. Yeah. I guess the difference is he doesn't like metal, he doesn't love hockey. So maybe you could be. You're my radio dad and he's my regular dad. So anyway, on Levitard, they're playing the game, very, very fun game of who's.

[C]

The most famous person you've ever urinate next to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I was thinking, you know, Don's had a burger with Gretzky, Peter's got a roll deck. So you guys probably have good answers. But my. While you guys are thinking, my answer is actually Michael K. It was at the beach bash about eight or nine years ago before I moved away. And it's true. The rumors are true. Giant head. Giant head on the guy for sure.

[Don LaGreca]

But seeing as you urinated next to him, I was concerned that's not where you were going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, no, you know, that's exactly.

[C]

Where I was going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I was definitely interested in both of your guys answer on this. I love the show. Love you guys. I'll hang up and listen.

[Don LaGreca]

Famous urination.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I don't know if I have one.

[Don LaGreca]

Here's the thing. I definitely have. I have Something, but I just don't remember them because if it not to be that guy, but I'm going to be. Let me just get this out of the way. But it would have been like I knew the person, so I wasn't thinking about it as, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm sharing a bathroom with them. Does that make sense?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

It would have been like whatever artist it was who I was, you know, hosting a show for them. And we went, you know, in wwe, I share a locker room, you know, with everybody, but I can't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think there's ever a time that I just like happened to be urinating and looked like, oh my God, I can't believe that.

[Don LaGreca]

So, but so and so's there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But was I with a famous person and we just happened to both need to go to the bathroom at the same time? Probably. But again, that doesn't register with me.

[Don LaGreca]

Because I mean, otherwise I may be tied with the caller. I mean, it could be Michael K in terms of people I can only remember, but like, I just don't remember. Could someone remind me of that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a good one, though.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm sure I would have said something to a friend at some point, but yeah, I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Flavio in Hawthorne. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, buddy?

[C]

Hey, guys. Great show as always.

[Don LaGreca]

Thanks. Flavio.

[C]

Before I. How you doing?

[Don LaGreca]

Good, buddy.

[C]

Before I get into the Cowboys, the Cowboys thing, and I've been a giant fan my whole life, watched them in the 70s, 80s, up to now. Before I get into that, the analytics of baseball, especially as it pertains to the Yankees, when the Yankee dynasties won all those World Series, there were no analytics. They won because they played the game of baseball. Now with taking Devin Williams out after nine pitches, I totally agree with the guy that called earlier. I think analytics is ruining the game personally, and it's not for every team. For some teams it works, but I don't know, I just not a fan and I think it's really. It's damaged the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I agree. For the Yankees specifically, I think especially for an older crowd because it's been going on so long. Flavio, there's probably a younger generation that, that this is all they know, but for guys like us, it definitely has done damage to it, for sure.

[C]

Exactly. I mean, my daughters, you know, they watch baseball. They don't know analytics. It's just part of the game that they, you know, that's what happens now, but you go back, you know, to the 70s and 80s, and, you know, people pitched 120 pitches. And the reason why some of these guys that are going out there pitching 10, 12, 15 pitches are getting hurt because they're only pitching 10, 12, 15 pitches.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it.

[C]

Every other game, you know, they're not out there. So I'll tell you. I'll tell you a thing about the Cowboys. So growing up as a Giant fan, obviously, you know, you know, the 70s, 80s, early 80s, it was. It was terrible. And you watched the Cowboys, they had the best quarterback, they had the best coach, the best running. They had great players. But the thing that really irritated me the most is when they called them America's Team. And I don't know how many other old Giant fans there are out there, but every time they said America's Team, they got most of the Monday Night Games. It was just. It was so irritating. They were easy to hate. Now, the Eagles, for me, are easy to hate because now they got Barkley, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they're also good again. And it's been a while since the Cowboys have been, like, a legitimate super bowl threat. They haven't won too many playoff games over the last 25 years. Now, Flavio, I usually don't do this, but I want to. I want to give. I want to give you some flowers. You. You do a great job with the Town Cast podcast. You actually do it with Willie Wilson. And why don't you promote what you got coming up? You had asked me to come on, and unfortunately I've been able to stay in touch. I can't make it work schedule wise, and I apologize. But why don't you just promote what you got coming up here? I want to be able to give you that opportunity.

[C]

You know what? You're making me emotional now. I'm gonna cry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't cry.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, boy.

[C]

Well done, Don. We had asked, because he's a Hawthorne boy, Don and Dave, we asked if he can come join us on a. On an event that we do about three or four times a year. We try to plan it strategically, but the podcast that I have, the Town Cast, we do this thing called Guys Talking Sports, and we get a bunch of knuckleheads from the area. Willie Wilson, myself, Mike O' Hagan. We got Pat DeMarco coming on now from Bogeys Hoagies, right in Hawthorne. And we always try to get a special guest. We've had the GM from the New Jersey Jackals. We had a couple of guys. We had an old Yankee On. So we wanted to extend it to Don. And Don, it's always open to you anytime you can make it. We'd love to have you on. We're doing it on July 13th, which is a Sunday at 12 o' clock. We're doing it right before the All Star break And it's at 12 o' clock at Shortways Barn in Hawthorne, New Jersey. It's absolutely free. We have a lot of great giveaways. We're giving away tickets to Towncast Day, which is going to be at Hinchless Stadium. Jackals are playing the New York Boulders on July 26th. And we have a lot of great giveaways and people donate stuff and. And we're always willing to get an autographed picture of you guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, we'll make that work.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. We'd love to have them. We'll raffle those off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, we want to, you know, Hawthorne helps Hawthorne. And don't forget on August 23rd, we've got the Mark Sasso. We'll have more information on that as we get closer. But I just wanted to be able to give you a couple of minutes to talk about that because he did ask me and David to go. But I'm going to be at Rick Springfield the night before and just can't make it work for that early on Sunday.

[Don LaGreca]

I just love you go into Rick Springfield. It's just perfect.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I love the fact that our Pinnitz suit, John Winthrop, was like giving us what? I thought he was dead. Well, you don't know anything about music.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, I mean, he's only been to one concert. No. Celine Dion. What do you think of the beverage I gave over there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

McLaus Fowler. They were a sponsor. And I love this grapefruit. I'm not a big grapefruit guy, but this is really good.

[Don LaGreca]

Isn't that delightful? I know my guy. Now, people are weighing in online about you in the game of the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tell me, what are they saying?

[Don LaGreca]

Um, let's see. So what DJ Free says so Don Rosenberg. I was never big on fantasy type movies. I. E. Never saw Lord of the Rings. I started Game of Thrones after season five hype. Ended up binging all five seasons in a weekend. Phenomenal show. Also just finished Breaking Bad slash Saul for the first time. Saul. Greater than breaking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

TP says Don LaGreca. The acting is incredible. Plus, it's a political drama wrapped in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Swords, which is a fair way of putting, I guess. I gotta be honest. I will probably do it, but I'm not feeling it like I anxiously anticipated Breaking Bad. Like you were telling me so much about it, so many people were talking and it just felt like it was more up my alley. This doesn't feel like it's up my alley, but I want to be open minded.

[Don LaGreca]

Then we have Brian who says Peter is in the wrong industry. Oh my God. This is a sports talk show. And all he wants to do is not do a sports show. I don't understand how he thinks this plays because he doesn't have the skill set. Management, wake up, it's getting old. I, by the way, you show me the sports talk show where they are unable or unwilling to ever go into anything else and I will show you a show I would never listen to on a bet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think people realize that by now.

[Don LaGreca]

But like what? But think of the all time greats. Like even if you talk about Mike and Chris, some of the best stuff that I hear people wax poetic about is when they did other stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All I will say is everybody and their mother would tell us doing a sports talk show is talk like you're at the bar with your buddies. No.

[Don LaGreca]

And when you're at the bar and your buddy changes subjects, you go shut up and go back to sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're watching the game. We're going back to the game. We don't talk about movies.

[Don LaGreca]

Don't point out a woman over there. More sports, please. More sports, please. Can't bring up a TV show, for God's sake.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1-800-919-3776. ENN's coming up at 6. Mets baseball at 6:30 on ESPN New York.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, you know what? When I get upset like moments like this, I think maybe BetterHelp. How about an ad by BetterHelp? It's okay to struggle. Real strength comes from opening up about what you're carrying and doing something about it so you can be at your best for yourself and everyone in your life. June is Mental Health awareness month. And men today face immense pressure to perform, to provide and keep it all together. So it's no wonder that 6 million men in the US suffer from depression every year. And it's often undiagnosed. With over 35,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. And it works with an App store rating of 4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews. As the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Talk it out with BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first [e-mail] timeout. That's betterhelp.com time out. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The ESPN New York Beach Bash is back. It's coming up on Friday, June 27th at Bar A in Lake Como, New Jersey.

[Don LaGreca]

It's two days from now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Head down to the Jersey Shore and join Michael K. And us starting at 1pm with an appearance from dpa. Joe Rothenberg, Bart, Carlin Moore are going to be there. I know Ty Butler is going to be there. We're going to have a lot of fun. We'll have plenty of giveaways for fans in attendance and music from Suit and Mai Tai and Overboard. It's all brought to you by flight by Yingling, Spiked a New Jersey Lottery, the Good Life Transportation Company, Schefferhofer Grapefruit. Here comes the happy. Must be 21 years of age to enter, so we're looking forward to it. I picked my song out, Peter.

[Don LaGreca]

He did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's so interesting how things come full circle. The song that I'm gonna do Friday is the song I wanted to do last year, but the band didn't know it. So I pivoted to another song this year. The fan knows the song, the band knows the song, and I'm gonna perform it. I think you're gonna like it.

[Don LaGreca]

Am I gonna know it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, I do sometimes. Just because I, on that guy.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Have to kind of sometimes go a little offbeat.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. You're gonna do Renee and Georgette Magritte with their dog after the war.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. But like last year, rocking in the free world. That, that, that's a song people know but not everybody knows.

[Don LaGreca]

Not everybody knows, you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's gonna be in that vein of everybody's gonna know the song more.

[Don LaGreca]

Closer to the LL Cool J.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, not the same genre.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But everybody's gonna know it and they're going to be able to sing along with it and have a good time with it.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

Stars like John Frenchy, Fuqua Udeki. Is that his name? Udoko.

[C]

And I know Zack Zarba. He was a crew chief. He's a Brooklyn guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

I love that. Yeah, your opportunity to rub shoulders with the true near greats. Like for the key Mr. Unlimited.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

Don, did you tweet rest in peace To Sydney part?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. 92. He passed away.

[Don LaGreca]

It's his birthday today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no. Oh. Turns 92.

[Don LaGreca]

Dear God. Phatic Fest 2025. So yeah, if you're just hearing about a big event coming up, all those names are going to be there. It's going to be amazing. Manny writes, peter, I hate you. LOL. But I agree with you. 100. Game of Thrones is amazing and Don needs to get the lead out and watch it. Get the let out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, get the let out.

[Don LaGreca]

Sorry. Number two. Love how you mix it up with the other topics. Oh, that's nice. P.S. also love how Boston is having a fire sale. So. So he's really back and forth between loving and hating me. It's confusing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is a love hate relationship. The razor's edge, apparently. So now would you let me ask you this?

[Don LaGreca]

All right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which one would you say I had to watch more? Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones If I hadn't seen either of them, which one would you campaign the most for?

[Don LaGreca]

Breaking Bad or Gaming Throne or Game of Thrones?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I'm surprised. Taking this long to answer. So I guess it's tough. It was a good question.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I think knowing you, I would have said Breaking Bad's probably definitely right up your alley.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

Whereas Game of Thrones requires a little more work. I do think it's more. It's more work. Like if you were to say, I watch Breaking Bad, I don't get it. I'd go, you're a moron. If you were to say I watched Game of Thrones, I don't get it. I'd go, oh, well, you just didn't pay quite close enough attention. I understand. Don. Til the very end you're gonn to confuse who certain characters are. It's just the nature of the beast. Okay, but both are fabulous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, we'll see how the summer mature.

[Don LaGreca]

It could happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sam in New Jersey. You're on ESPN New York.

[C]

Hey, Don. Hey, Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How are you guys? Good.

[C]

Listen, don, like, about 10, 15 years ago, I put on Game of Thrones, and the very first scene is very misleading. So I just want to make sure. Because, you know, they show without getting into it. And Ice Alien, which are called the others. Don't stop watching when you see that. Because Game of Thrones is the greatest book and TV show ever done. You've got dynasties, family dynasties. It's not your typical fantasy fluff. It's not just dragons and swords. Politics, power, legacy, betrayal. Everything that makes sports great, but on a global scale with real consequences.

[Don LaGreca]

But I don't understand. I don't understand the call. What's his name? Yeah, I don't know if in the book it's. I didn't read the books, but I. I don't know. The open. The scene that you're referring to is a White Walker, and.

[C]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

You're saying. Why is that misleading? That the show is sort of. It's not misleading because.

[C]

Because the scene right after that delves right into, like, what most of the show is about. Politics between two Warren families.

[Don LaGreca]

Got it. And the White. The White Walkers are a backdrop for the show, but they do show you right from the beginning they're there. Know that they're there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[C]

But the thing was, I saw that, and I thought the whole show was gonna be about stuff like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I think. I think I have a kind of an understanding of what it's about, so I think I'll be able to fight through that.

[Don LaGreca]

Where do you stand on incest? You fan?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not really, no.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay, well, you're gonna power through it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don LaGreca]

It's in there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll look.

[Don LaGreca]

Imagine how. Well, imagine how badly things could have gone if done. Done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just couldn't help wasn't paying attention. Oh, yeah. Big fan.

[Don LaGreca]

Big fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Real quick. Dan in Saratoga. You're on ESPN New York.

[C]

Hey, what's up, guys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How you doing? Hey, buddy. Man.

[C]

Hey, Don, are you sure you're not gonna do a little Jim Crochet to Beats Bash? Little Operator?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that'd be a good one. I do like the song, but, you know, the idea is to kind of get everybody going, and that's not a song that gets people going.

[C]

No. Quickly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter.

[C]

I got a Percy for Peter, if I don't mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, Peter.

[C]

I want to gauge your level of fandom here. I'm giving you two of the next three Super Bowls going to the Washington commanders.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[C]

Or I'm giving you you reclaiming a 247 champ belt for the next two years and you get to defend it once.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And when. What are you doing? How about that? You got a Peter?

[Don LaGreca]

I think I'm going to commanders.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Interesting.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm going. I care more about the commanders. I've already done the 247 championship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You didn't get a chance to defend.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I mean, if I got to have like a promoted match, don't get me wrong, that'd be pretty sick. But no, it's, it's. I'm, I'm invested in the commies.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? He's also invested 45 years enn and it's next. You're on Don Hannah Rosenberg on ESPN New York.

[Don LaGreca]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sausage is made, man.

[Don LaGreca]

I just want to know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's good.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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