Hour 3: Big Mets Test

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary Episode: Hour 3: Big Mets Test
Release Date: June 17, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, the hosts—Don Hahn, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg—delve into the New York Mets' critical series against the Atlanta Braves. They analyze the implications of this matchup on the Mets' pursuit of the division title, offering insights, debates, and personal anecdotes that resonate with both die-hard Mets fans and casual listeners.

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Generational Reflections on the Mets

Peter Rosenberg initiates the conversation by reflecting on "Generation K," a trio of pitchers—Wilson, Isringhausen, and Pulsifer—that once energized Mets fans. He nostalgically recalls fans eagerly anticipating their performances:

"You’ll remember Generation K... You met fans waiting with bated breath for these three amazing pitchers to all show up at the same time." [01:02]

Don Hahn and Alan Hahn join in, reminiscing about the significance of these players in Mets history and their enduring legacy 30 years later.

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Steven Matz’s First Game Experience

Peter shares a personal story about attending Steven Matz's inaugural game, highlighting the emotional connection and the importance of such milestones:

"I was at Steven Matt's first game... I had like a 10 game package that I ended up getting." [04:33]

This segues into a light-hearted debate among the hosts about the relevance and impact of players' debut performances on their careers and fan perceptions.

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Analyzing the Mets vs. Braves Series

The core of the episode centers on the upcoming seven-game series between the Mets and the Braves. Don Hahn emphasizes the strategic importance of this series in determining the Mets' standing:

"If the Mets can take care of business here, say win five of the seven games they could put the Braves to sleep as far as being anybody that could be a threat to them winning the division." [12:XX]

Peter Rosenberg concurs, noting the Braves' precarious position at eight games under .500 and their diminished threat to the division crown:

"Braves are not a good team. They're eight games under .500... Hopefully, the Mets can get back on track, take care of business and put the Braves to sleep." [15:XX]

Alan adds perspective on the Mets' resilience, comparing their current momentum to last year's successful season turnaround:

"Last year they started off, and they were steadfast. They were buyers. They made the right moves. They wrote it all the way to the NLCS." [17:22]

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Current Performance and Key Players

The discussion shifts to key players influencing the Mets' performance. Pete Alonso’s batting prowess is lauded, while the management of pitching rotations, including Stephen Matz and recent injuries like Sanga's, are scrutinized:

"Pete Alonso versus last year, he has a hot bat now. Not lately, but he has a hot bat to start the season." [17:XX]

Don Hahn underscores the importance of a balanced rotation and bullpen to sustain the Mets' competitive edge:

"They are piecing together a rotation that they believe can work and a bullpen that they believe can work." [17:XX]

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Yankees vs. Mets: Division Race Implications

The hosts explore the dynamics between the Yankees and Mets, contemplating whether both teams can remain atop the standings by July 4th. Don Hahn questions the likelihood:

"Can you believe, do you believe in your heart of hearts that on July 4th there'll be two first place teams playing against each other when the Mets and Yankees meet again?" [15:14]

Peter Rosenberg supports the possibility, citing the Yankees' weaker schedule against the Mets' stronger one:

"Yankee schedule is weaker and the Mets have a tough schedule. But again, the Braves are the bridge. They're nine games under .500." [15:23]

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Listener Interaction: Mike’s Call on Bill Pulsifer

Listener Mike from Floral Park calls in to clarify Bill Pulsifer's current role as a pitching coach at a Long Island facility, helping to resolve earlier confusions about his background:

"He actually, he's a pitching coach at a training facility out in Belport on Long Island." [33:09]

This interaction underscores the hosts' commitment to providing accurate information and engaging with their audience.

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Debate: Best Player to Never Win a Championship

A thought-provoking segment where the hosts answer the question, "Who is the best player to never win a championship in all of sports?" The discussion spans across various sports, highlighting legendary figures like Ted Williams and Dan Marino, and contemporary stars such as Chris Paul and Aaron Judge:

Don Hahn: "That was my answer. Ted Williams." [44:56]
Alan Hahn: "Dan Marino. It's damn." [45:00]
Peter Rosenberg: "Chris Paul’s going to the Hall of Fame." [46:52]

The conversation delves into the complexities of defining "best" based on individual prowess versus team achievements, reflecting diverse perspectives among the hosts.

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Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Events

As the episode wraps up, the hosts maintain their engaging banter, touch upon upcoming baseball games, and tease future topics. They reinforce their passion for the Mets and provide listeners with a sense of camaraderie and anticipation for the team's prospects.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Peter Rosenberg on Generation K:
  "You'll remember Generation K... They all had their moments." [01:07]

• Peter on Steven Matz’s First Game:
  "I was at Steven Matt's first game... I had like a 10 game package that I ended up getting." [04:33]

• Don Hahn on Mets vs. Braves Series:
  "If the Mets can take care of business here, say win five of the seven games they could put the Braves to sleep..." [12:XX]

• Peter Rosenberg on Yankees' Schedule:
  "Yankee schedule is weaker and the Mets have a tough schedule." [15:23]

• Don Hahn on Ted Williams:
  "That was my answer. Ted Williams." [44:56]

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Conclusion

This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" provides an in-depth analysis of the Mets' pivotal series against the Braves, intertwined with nostalgic reflections, player performance discussions, and engaging debates on broader sports topics. The hosts' dynamic interactions and meaningful insights offer listeners a comprehensive understanding of the Mets' current trajectory and the factors influencing their potential division triumph.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

501 big city don Han and Rosenberg with 6:30. Then it's Mets baseball, Mets and the Braves. So the Mets take on the Braves. They have a chance to put the Braves to sleep. They really do. But this caught my eye on Twitter, guys. And Peter may not be able to relate and certainly Anthony and Jacob will not be able to, but I think, Alan, you'll be able to relate even though you're not a man.

[Don Hahn]

Okay?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You'll remember Generation K. Oh, yeah. Wilson, Isringhausen, Pulsifer.

[Don Hahn]

Pulsifer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You met fans waiting with bated breath for these three amazing pitchers to all show up at the same time. And right. They all had their moments. But, you know, Isringhausen ended up becoming a closer for the Cardinals and Wilson had his moments elsewhere. Bill Pulsifer just tweeted, oh, boy, 30 years ago today, I suited up and towed the slab for the very first time on a major league mound. Hard to believe it's been that long ago. 30 years. And of course, to let Anthony know because he gets upset, 30 years ago was 1995, the 90s. He was only a year old. Now, listen, I know it wasn't yesterday, Alan. I know. And if I did the quick math, I'd say, yeah, it's probably been around 30 years. But just like I see it in print, generation K was 30 years ago. Dear God, man, where's the time go?

[Alan]

Man, that was fast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. I don't know if you felt it being a Yankee fan, but every.

[Don Hahn]

Every reference. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I think Pulsifer, if I'm not mistaken, I think Pulsifer was a Long island guy. We're going to get confirmation on that. Anthony's working on, because I saw him in a bar in Baldwin and for some reason I got the impression he was a local guy.

[Alan]

Baldwin, Long Island.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, sir.

[Alan]

Why were you at a bar in Baldwin?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because my buddy was a bouncer there and it was 10 cent wings. And I will drive from North Jersey to Baldwin for 10 cent.

[Alan]

By the way, I drive to Mars for 10 cent wings.

[Don Hahn]

No, Born in Georgia, went to high school in Fairfax, Virginia.

[Alan]

Oh, when you go to high school.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe he just was hanging around.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe, just maybe he just liked 10.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Cent wings and wings. I don't know why I was under that impression, but whatever. But the Mets, you know, the Yankees.

[Don Hahn]

You're not thinking of Steven Matz, are you? He's, he's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, Long island, stop. Steven Matt wasn't that long ago.

[Alan]

Steven Matt was six years.

[Don Hahn]

I'm just saying. You're thinking of. Who was it? There was another what's his name? Long island guy. He was great pitcher. This is in the 90s also, but he was a veteran when they got him. Can't remember the name of the top of my head.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Frank Viola. Yeah, okay. Just was just throwing out old timey Mets.

[Don Hahn]

I'm just giving you guys Long Island.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love it. I believe he went to St. John's too. Yeah, Frank Viola.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But no, I was at Stephen Matt's first game.

[Alan]

Oh, really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's when I was the Met season ticket holder. Alan, you missed it. I had. Here's, here's how it happened.

[Alan]

All right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nancy wanted to go to get to Mets, Giants. She wanted to go to the series before the kids. And so the ticket agent at Citi Field at the time with the Mets coerced her into getting. If, you know, if you buy other games, we can move you closer and give you better tickets at a discount for Mets Giants. So Nancy's like, oh, boom. All of a sudden we get a pick of like I had like a 10 game package that I ended up getting. And so Nancy's like, here, here's 10 games go to these games so I can get closer to the Giants dugout for Giants Mets. So what I did, I said, you know what? I'll. I'll take, I'll choose the games. Andrew Gunling's a big Philly fan. I'll take him.

[Alan]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I'll take Brownshirt to the Cardinal game. Like I tried to find a tie in for everybody to get a chance to go. So I would take people from the station there. And one of the game was Steven Matt's first game.

[Alan]

Look at you. One for the history books.

[Don Hahn]

Save the ticket, didn't you? But you did save the ticket.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if I.

[Alan]

For Steven Matt's first game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean it was cool, but you didn't realize it was Steven Matt's first game. Until, like, later on.

[Alan]

Respectfully.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then it did.

[Alan]

You know what? I think respectfully is a proper way to use Steven Matt's ticket for his first game. Respectfully. I would use that. If I was out of bags and I was taking bear for a walk, I would use it because a ticket's a good hard item to score.

[Don Hahn]

Come on, Jacob.

[Alan]

You know what I'm saying.

[Don Hahn]

It's got an edge.

[Alan]

It was a cool moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It didn't age well, but it was a cool moment. I was at.

[Alan]

It's aged terrible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was at deGrom's first game against the Yankees. Me and Ryan Hurley drinking cannons, by the way.

[Alan]

DeGrom's first game. We can have a conversation now. That's still aged badly, but it was meaningful for a long time.

[Don Hahn]

I can't understand Steven Matt's first.

[Alan]

This is Stephen Max game.

[Don Hahn]

So what.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you. Can I ask you a question, Peter? Seriously, what the hell? I want to ask you a question.

[Alan]

Where's Stephen Matt right now? I'll pay anyone a dime.

[Don Hahn]

It doesn't matter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it your mission in life? This is a serious question, okay? To just completely alienate the baseball audience from yourself.

[Alan]

Wait, why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you have made it like a cottage industry to offend baseball fans.

[Alan]

Hold on, hold on. By the way, the only thing I want to push back on here is that you're mislabeling what I did there. If you're a true baseball fan, you should appreciate what I'm saying more than anyone. Cause a real baseball fan is gonna go, he's absolutely right. Who gives a damn about Steven Matt numbers?

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you're right, then I wouldn't even.

[Alan]

Have brought it out. He's not a top 50 Mets pitcher. But when I brought. It's like saying it was JoJo Bumchuck first.

[Don Hahn]

That's not the point I was making. What I was saying is the fact that you besmirched it as if it was irrelevant. This is a human being.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which makes him subhuman, according to people.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, well, I was sarcastic about saving the ticket. I was being sarcastic. Of course, you took it as Captain Literal Man. And now I thought, well, wait a minute. Don't. Let's not hurt. Let's not, like.

[Alan]

Wait, so, guy. It was dog feces, actually, but real quick. So really, the first besmirch came from Alan. He just doesn't like that I piled on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but at least. No, wait a minute. This is the way I took it. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Alan]

Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. Obviously you're being critical of Me, because I actually brought up. I was at Steven Matt's first game right there.

[Alan]

I know, remembering. But I was at Marty Barrett's last game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, that's a good one. Marty Barrett hit one home run in 1988. I was at the game at Fenway.

[Don Hahn]

Good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. So anyway, and I saved that.

[Alan]

You say, oh, I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was genuine. There was, I think, genuine interest from Alan when I said it. And then he got sarcastic because obviously I wouldn't save the ticket because it didn't age very well. But when I initially said I was at Steven Matt's first game, I was like, oh. And then you say opportunity to completely defecate on anybody interested.

[Alan]

Well, it would be bear defecating. But real quick, I just. In my defense, I'm stupid and didn't realize I didn't pick up Alan's sarcasm. So I thought he went like, oh, did you say the ticket?

[Don Hahn]

You thought I was really like.

[Alan]

Now I realize. Now I realize it was a really good joke and I just sort of missed. And that's why. So it wasn't an intentional pile on, but I thought it was the first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're going after me if you had.

[Alan]

In fact, save the ticket. But you didn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're a Jacob. You're a Mets fan. I'm a Mets fan, yeah. So you see where he lands. I was at Stephen Matt's first game, remember? His dad, his family was there. It was like a big deal. He actually, he doubled in the local kid, too.

[Alan]

So I wasn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm talking baseball, so I wasn't trying to win Peter over. And if you were wondering, listen, Steven, Matt, Charlie plays for the Cardinals.

[Don Hahn]

Plays for the Cardinals.

[Alan]

Good for him, man. But you know what?

[Don Hahn]

Can I add something? Can I add some of this? You know what? You know what the win here was, Don, that we are overlooking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's that?

[Don Hahn]

We talked baseball. Peter was engaged.

[Alan]

Thank you very.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Usually. Usually when we're talking baseball, he shot. It's. It's like the adults in a peanut cartoon.

[Alan]

By the way, the reason this. And the reason this is an ad hominem attack is that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it.

[Alan]

Is that I've basically. I've been involved. I was involved in all the baseball conversations.

[Don Hahn]

Homonyms being used in this attack.

[Alan]

But I. But today's a bad example of it. When I was very in on the Yankees talk today, was I not?

[Don Hahn]

Yes, you were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You were fully engaged today.

[Don Hahn]

You are growing.

[Alan]

No, no. Maybe you're growing.

[Don Hahn]

Maybe not in stature, but you're growing.

[Alan]

You guys ever think. Do you guys heard that by the way? But do you guys ever think, am I growing or the baseball conversation is getting better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, maybe that's what it is. Maybe you're bringing the Russians to find involved because in the Stanford band play, the guy on the field with the tuba was involved.

[Alan]

No, that's. See, that's not. But I mean coherent points. And by the way, I think should appreciate that I felt so strongly about Stephen Matt. It shows something. It shows a knowledge of mid od met baseball, which.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know, anything you would have might be bought into it.

[Alan]

How good is the Steven Matt you're talking about? Instead, I offended his entire family. He was probably listening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They might be.

[Don Hahn]

They probably.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I gotta deal with it later when.

[Don Hahn]

I'm like, you know, when I'm out at Uncle Giuseppe's and somebody comes up to me.

[Alan]

Yeah, I apologize.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sorry.

[Alan]

He's a fine player.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We've been doing this. We've been doing this long enough. What do they call those? An hom. Is that the way you say it? If.

[Alan]

If that was a great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guarantee you, Alan, at some point within the next couple of weeks, you'll be out and about on Long island and somebody will approach you about this moment.

[Don Hahn]

You guys don't realize how often it does happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it does.

[Don Hahn]

I'm at Stop and Shop and Uncle Giuseppe's. I'm getting gas. I'm at 711 that you never know who's just going to pop up and they're going to bring up something that we got into and I got to try to do. I got to explain it. It's, you know, this long and they won't remember.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A little emotional. It'll be like, alan, how did you disrespect. Matt's like that.

[Don Hahn]

Trust me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But listen, I had no idea when I said it that it would be.

[Alan]

Who knew where we were going.

[Don Hahn]

Here's something, though, that's really sweet. If you want to, you know, kind of turn this. Stay on baseball, but just change it a little too. Let's see if Peter can. Can use a bear's defecation on this. Joe Tory is going to be involved in the All Star Game.

[Alan]

I will not disrespect Joe Tory. Nice try.

[Don Hahn]

He's going to be honorary coach for the American League in the All Star Game. Okay, that's pretty cool. That's something because Aaron Boone will be there. Stephen Vogt from the Cardinals will be there, and they're going to have him as the honorary Manager. That's a look. Look, Joe Tori is a legend as a manager. We know this right? He turns 85 just a couple of days after the All Star game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's crazy.

[Don Hahn]

Isn't this. Well you again you want to feel old Don, There you go. But isn't this like the best way we too many times we honor people after the fact. We should honor them during the fact. And Joe Tori is, is this is a cool thing that that baseball announced?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I thought I did see that on the bottom line before and I was going to definitely bring it up and that. That is.

[Don Hahn]

I love that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A real cool. I just can't believe he's 85.

[Don Hahn]

85 or going to be crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Going to be 85 years old. It's just, it's pretty crazy. Now back to the Mets. Mets start a series with the Braves. They will play the Braves seven times over the next 10 games. The other three will be against Philadelphia. So the Mets have lost three in a row. They're only one of four teams to not have a four game losing streak. The Yankees were one of five and then they lost their fourth in a row last night. So they're off the list. So the mets lead is two over the Phillies. It's 13 over the Braves. So if the Mets can take care of business here, say win five of the seven games they could put the Braves to sleep as far as being anybody that could be a threat to them winning the division. Now can the Braves maybe muster away to get back into the wild card? Sure. But the Mets can really put the Braves to sleep here by taking care of business. Now the series is Atlanta. Atlanta's been a house of horrors for them as we know but a real chance here to get rid of arrival. Remember when the when the season started guys, it was all the Mets have to deal with the Phillies, they got to deal with the Braves. Well now if all you have to do is deal with the Phillies, that, that, that's not nothing. So hope the Mets aren't playing their best baseball. Just got swept by Tampa. But they just before that they won six in a row. And I know the Mets have not had a very difficult schedule although they did win four out of seven from the Dodgers. But Tampa's a pretty good team and they got swept. Braves are not a good team. They're eight games under.500. They just gave up double digit runs to the Rockies who are going to lose 120 games this year. Hopefully the Mets can get back on track, take care of business and put the Braves to sleep. Let's see.

[Don Hahn]

This is also like, you know, now we're getting into the meat of the schedule. Right? Like now you're getting into your, you're going to play your division opponents a lot more now over the next couple of weeks. And, and this is, I don't want to call it a test on but you know, because the Mets have had a really good start. Soto was starting to come around. Didn't they just lose another, another starting pitcher, by the way? Didn't, didn't, didn't somebody go in the IL just recently or the Braves? No, no, no, the Mets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh yeah. Sanga.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, not saying. I thought there was something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. But that, you know what he, I, I don't want to say.

[Don Hahn]

You don't care.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, again, I don't want to disrespect him, but he losing his injury is talented.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, well with that in mind. But it is fair to say though, this is sort of a. Okay, let's see what's, let's see what the Mets really are. And I, I kind of feel like that's, that's the next couple of weeks here. Let's see what they are. You know, I did point out the next time the Yankees and Mets will meet on, on the 4th of July they'll play their, their two games now at Yankee Stadium, I mean at, at, at Citi Field. And it's, it's going to be interesting to see where both are because when, when we were in early June, we saw two teams that are first place team. They are still first place teams but we, we, it is interesting to look at the schedule and say will both teams be first place teams when they meet again on July 4th? Right. Again, you could say what you want about the Yankees, but because they have struggled lately, it's not like they're running away with the division. It's three and a half. The Mets, it's two and a half. So will both. Can you answer that question for me right now? Definitively. Can you believe, do you believe in your heart of hearts that on July 4th there'll be two first place teams playing against each other when the Mets and Yankees meet again? Yes or no? Can you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I believe yes. I believe yes. Yankee schedule is, is, is weaker and the Mets have a tough schedule. But again, the Braves are the bridge. They're nine games under.500.

[Don Hahn]

I know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's get to work here.

[Don Hahn]

Funny things happen when you play a team like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get it. Struggle again, but it can' but it can. The Phillies are taking on the Marlins. So if you slip up against the Braves, you will fall out of first place. But I will say this. A few weeks ago, if you remember, the Mets dropped two out of three in Minnesota. Looked like the sky was falling. They fell out of first place. They got right back on the horse, took over first place. They were helped by Philadelphia dropping eight of nine. But I, I'm not going to get crazy about any one series. Mets were the first team to get swept, last team to get swept. So teams get swept, okay, it's gonna happen. But don't follow it up by all of a sudden dropping two out of three to Atlanta. And then it becomes a thing. I don't want it to become a thing. Take care of business. You got Peterson coming off a complete game shut out of the Nationals last week. And the Braves are real in here. Take care of business. Now you say what they are. I know the Mets are a playoff team. I know because they were a playoff team last year and they've been consistently good this year. But are they a division champion? Are they a team that can get through and navigate through the National League, which has a ton of Giants to have to get through and on the Giants, literally and figuratively. And then you got the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks and the Phillies and the Cubs are a really good team. And you know, so they've got to be careful here. Again, I'm not trying to disrespect the American League, but they don't have the luxury the Yankees have where they know they're clearly better than all the teams that are chasing after them in their division. The Mets can't say that. You know, the Mets could say it because they beat the Phillies last year and it consistently been better than them so far this year. But I don't think anybody would blink if Philadelphia won this division. I think people would be slack jawed if the Red Sox, the Blue Jays or the Rays beat the Yankees out for the American League. They don't have no margin for error.

[Don Hahn]

So yeah, something terrible happened if that, if that does end up being the result. But the Mets, you remember last year when you say I don't know if they could be a division champion, they were chasing their schedule all the way through, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Like it wasn't as if, remember they got a terrible start. We were wondering if they're going to blow the whole thing up, if they were going to be a seller, not a buyer. And they, they were steadfast. They were buyers. They made the right moves. They Got hot at the right time and they wrote it all the way to the nlcs. So now they start the season off and they are that team that they left off last season. They are that team still. And Pete Alonso versus last year, he has a hot bat now. Not lately, but he has a hot bat to start the season. They add a guy like Soto, but they're doing it the same way they did it last year, with sort of piecing together a rotation that they believe can work and a bullpen that they believe can work. They are, to me, a division champion. They are, when you look at them, a team that should win their division. And so that's going to be. That's why I like this next two week of the schedule. I if I'd be fired up as a Mets fan to watch this, because this is where you're like, all right, let's see what they're about. This right here will tell you because the Braves, you gotta admit, Don, yes, they stink. But you know how it goes in sports. There are certain teams that have your number, and in your best years, they'll give you trouble just because of who they are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, this is the Yankees Red Sox, like the Braves are the Yankees Red Sox, where you're clearly better than them. Red Sox were not a great team. But guess what? It stung. It hit different that you lost five out of six to them. Because it's them. Yes, that's what the Braves are to the Mets.

[Don Hahn]

And that's what you don't want to have happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1-800-9193776, Mike in floral park, you're on. Don Hunter Rosenberg. Mike. Don.

[Mike]

I was also at the Mats game, that debut.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I know, I know. This is exciting stuff.

[Alan]

It's a big day.

[Don Hahn]

You know, 100,000 people are going to say they're at that game. Peter, you know that that's how big of a game. Place only seats 40, but there's a hundred thousand people that say they're going to be there. They were there.

[Mike]

Do we think Stephen Matt's peaked in that game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, he had his moments. 3 for 37 innings.

[Don Hahn]

He got hurt a lot, but he good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What member of his family was the star of the day? I think it was his grandfather, right? Yes.

[Alan]

Look at that. Stephen. Matt Trivia.

[Don Hahn]

He was at the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He got more FaceTime than Stephen did. Well, Don is a rock and roll fan. Who was the City City Field concert that night? Ooh, the city. Oh, was it Huey Lewis in the news? I was going to say Steve Miller. But I thought you knew. I think it was Steve Miller. I don't think I. The only concert I remember staying for was Huey Lewis. It might have been. I don't know. But I embarrassed to say because I have two young daughters at that time, too. I was also at the Huey Lewis game.

[Don Hahn]

All right, there you go.

[Alan]

Is this. Are we just talking to alternate world? Don't.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, this feels like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does feel that way. I just thought it was kind of.

[Mike]

Significant in just my family's history.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We all enjoyed that game. You brought it up. Peter.

[Alan]

Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter laughs at it because, again, Stephen. Matt, still a major league baseball, Still a good pitcher. You're good, you know, good adjacent, I guess. But that was a big moment.

[Alan]

Well, no, and the three hits. The fact that he had three hits and four RBIs, that's. That's an impress. I get why you'd remember that. All joking aside, that's a memorable first game for sure.

[Don Hahn]

Mike is Long island legreco.

[Alan]

I like. I like this Long Island Leg record.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we just get Comfort. Yes. The Steve Miller Band. I don't remember staying. I've never been a big Steve Miller fan.

[Don Hahn]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, really? I'm like. I'm like, listen, I respect them, but I'm good.

[Alan]

I got a problem with Steve Miller.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't have it.

[Alan]

He's got some joints, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, but I'm not. I'm, you know.

[Alan]

Robin. Fly up, up to the sky. They got some.

[Don Hahn]

You mean Slowly. Eagle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fly like an eagle.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, like an eagle. Yeah, that's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the song you're thinking.

[Alan]

I know, but it's this. But Red. Red and Meth both sampled both those songs. But I meant Fly like an Eagle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Fly like an Eagle. That's the actual sample. That was the music that was sampled.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And thanks for helping me.

[Alan]

You guys got me there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. I did not stay for the show because I'm just not that big a fan. I got to apologize to you.

[Alan]

Well, no, you don't have to apologize for it, Dom. Given everything that you like, you'd think. You think you'd stick around for that. You know what I mean? It's just that. It's just hard to read. But this is what makes you Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Legreca, if I'm not mistaken.

[Alan]

Or the joker I had.

[Don Hahn]

Come on, Take the Money and Run.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They played. Now I remember. They played the Reds. And my buddy is a Reds fan, so I was gonna take him. He cancels day of. I'm on the phone with everybody trying to find. So I even called Dpietro. I end up going to that game alone. I sat there myself for that game.

[Alan]

Wow. The whole game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because he canceled at the last minute. It was a day game.

[Alan]

Who canceled?

[Peter Rosenberg]

My buddy Mark.

[Alan]

Oh, son of a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Good. So remember, I got the tickets, like, for everybody. Like, all right, I got a Reds fan. I'll go to the Reds. And I believe it was a Sunday afternoon. It was kind of rainy. He cancels that morning. I start calling everybody I know. I gotta get. I gotta get to the ballpark. I remember calling Dpietro on the George Washington Bridge. And he just. He couldn't. I might even have reached out to you, Alan.

[Don Hahn]

No, I don't think you did. I remember that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dude. I called everybody because I didn't want. But I sat there by myself, like, going to a movie alone.

[Don Hahn]

It happens.

[Alan]

It's a very tough. I don't know if I could do a full baseball game.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I did it.

[Alan]

Remember, I did it on when I was traveling for wwe. Remember I went to Cleveland and they said, hey, Peter, you know, we've heard some of the things you had to say about Cleveland. We want to show you a good time. Here's some tickets to the Indians game, to the Guardians game tonight.

[Don Hahn]

And you went by yourself?

[Alan]

I went by myself. I met a couple of lovely people. I stayed for three and a half innings.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, okay.

[Alan]

It's. It's Alan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's tough.

[Don Hahn]

Over under was definitely three innings.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan]

I got a weird burger. I got a weird hot dog with, like, M M's on it or whatever, and I kept it moving.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I went to the. I went to a Pirate game by myself when I was with the Rangers for a Penguin game. And I. I got to see this ballpark.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I bought tickets. I sat for, like, six innings.

[Alan]

You did six innings, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I had to do six because I had the game. I had the game to get ready for.

[Alan]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just wanted to say I was by himself, though.

[Alan]

That's right.

[Don Hahn]

Hear this. You hear this, Peter. He only did six.

[Alan]

Yeah. He would have done a full night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I bought tickets. Why would I stay with the game?

[Alan]

I mean, buying tickets to a game in Pittsburgh, it's like buying all play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was like 35 bucks. It was ridiculous.

[Don Hahn]

For the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, because I knew it wasn't going to stay for the whole game. If I did, I would have scored it. I do enjoy scoring games.

[Don Hahn]

Same.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I got to stay for the whole thing. The other thing I did. And, Alan, you'll have my back. Peter. Will is we're at super bowl in Tampa, and whenever I'm in that city, I got to go see a game. So the Canadians are playing the Lightning, and I've got my NHL credential. Walk right in and I'm going to the game. Ryan. Michael, why are you going to go to the game? Who wants to go to a hockey game? I'm coming out with us. I'm like, I'm going to the hockey game. I met Lauren Oren Coolis, the owner of the team, who was the producer for Two and a Half Men. It was a great day. I sat there by myself. You know where they went? Hooters.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I've been to that. Tampa Hooters.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm saying, like, they. Like I'm guilty. They're never trying to make me feel guilty for not hanging with them. There's Hooters in every city in the country.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, but the Tampa one hits different.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. Well, you know what? I went to the hockey game and I enjoyed myself.

[Alan]

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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan]

Oh, you kidding me?

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Trying to get a dinner after. Alan, try to go.

[Don Hahn]

I wanted to throw this out there and let's just. Let's just give it to the people. Let's let the people hear our conversation about it.

[Alan]

Here we go.

[Don Hahn]

Stephanie, who never wants to attend anything.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Wants to come to the beach base.

[Alan]

You kidding me? Wow.

[Don Hahn]

She. She wants to get away from the kids. Not allowed to say that publicly, but I did. She just wants a break. School year is going to be over. Teaching and all that stuff. She's like, I just want to go and have like. Like she thought that, you know, Natalie, Nancy would be there.

[Alan]

Oh.

[Don Hahn]

And she's like, you know, we could. We could hang out while you guys do the show.

[Alan]

Can I join?

[Don Hahn]

And I. I don't know how. I don't know how to tell her.

[Alan]

Like, I don't think anyone's coming.

[Don Hahn]

Nobody wants to come.

[Alan]

God bless.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, Nancy would go, but we've got the kids next day.

[Don Hahn]

Come up and watch the kids.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jalen's got. But why a big rehearsal for her recital. That's the next day. So Nancy's got to take Jalen to that. And this is. And just telling anybody. It's just it's not a kid friendly event in the sense that there's no, you know, boardwalking, go to the beach or whatever. But I just said it's got to be 21 or older to be in the area. And even though we can get around it being on espn, there's nothing for the kids to do. It's an adult event, so Nancy's gonna hang home.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But she's more than welcome to join us.

[Don Hahn]

No, we're just gonna stand there the whole time. No, not gonna happen. It's all good. Tell her to stay home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, don't.

[Alan]

Don't make us feel bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why are you making us feel bad? I don't know what to do.

[Don Hahn]

The conversation quickly ended. I thought maybe there'd be a little discussion. That's it.

[Alan]

There's no. There's no world in which it would make sense to bring a five month old.

[Don Hahn]

Of course not.

[Alan]

To this hot.

[Don Hahn]

And you're not babysitter ready?

[Alan]

No, we're babysitter ready. She's with the babysitter right now, frankly.

[Don Hahn]

But.

[Alan]

But not for that long, though. Down the shore. That's a lot. That's a lot of work.

[Don Hahn]

Too far. Okay.

[Alan]

Just a lot of. It's a lot of work for what. What Natalie would be getting.

[Don Hahn]

I understand.

[Alan]

Which. Which, frankly, respectfully, would be standing around with Yo. Yo. She doesn't know. Respectfully.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo. Yo. Strong. Well, it depends where it's at.

[Alan]

Are there. No. Are there no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo. Yos? No. It's accurate but strong. Both could be true.

[Alan]

It was like my take on Stephen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Matt. So it'll. It'll be a guy's night out.

[Don Hahn]

All right.

[Alan]

But I. But I think we should do it like gentlemen. Oh, you know, what are you saying? Oh, I think we should. I think we should choose a nice restaurant, somewhere lovely. And we have options. We can do it from anywhere near the vicinity to as far as the path takes us together. You still have to go somewhat north, right, Don? Or. No, like, do you even go the same path as me and Alan on our way back?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or for a little bit, you'll take the parkway, right?

[Alan]

Yeah, we'll take the parkway for a bit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I go. I take the parkway north. There's a place that we've gone, a sports bar.

[Alan]

But I like that sports bar. It's a nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's nice.

[Alan]

It's a nice sports bar like you dream about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not a dive. It's a nice place.

[Alan]

No, that's a great TV situation. You want to go there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Well, especially after four hours of being out in the blazing hot sun. It's not like we're going to walk into an elegant steakhouse and sit down. We're going to have back sweat, drop.

[Alan]

The question is. The question is, though, if I get a wonderful car service from my good friends at elite Broadway, they took him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here last year and he, they, they.

[Alan]

Didn'T mind waiting at dinner. Just feel bad because then I'm going to stop and like, luxuriate. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but I, I. The way I handled it was, we'll meet you at the, you know, meet me at the restaurant after. Like, I didn't have them take me to the venue and then baray to the restaurant. Have them sit like animals outside. No, come drop me off at 12:30 and then pick me up at the restaurant at like 9.

[Alan]

How did you get to the restaurant?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, there were people with cars.

[Alan]

And you jumped a ride?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think, I think we. Yeah, we jumped.

[Alan]

Well, we're out in the middle. Respectfully, we're out in the middle of nowhere relative to where these people are currently.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sure somebody at the station drove.

[Alan]

No, no, no. But the driver. Maybe it's a driver from Jersey. You can go home between. You're saying like. I'm saying, what are they doing? You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I don't know what they're doing. I don't know if they, they don't have to stay. If you get a driver from Jersey and drops you off at 12:30, pick you up at 9, they go home.

[Alan]

It's a great point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or there's other people that they could pick up. I don't know how the whole thing works.

[Alan]

It's very.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, what if it's, if it's somebody really cool?

[Alan]

Broadway Elite, they don't. They know what they're doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bring them in, we'll feed them.

[Alan]

God knows we found out drivers before.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're all awesome guys.

[Alan]

Well, no, the ones from Broadway. Oh, you kidding me?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's really good at what he does. Let's go to Anthony out in the lie. You're on. Don Hunter Rosenberg. What's up, Anthony? Hey, guys. I heard you talk about Bill Pulsifer and just wanted to call in to let you know he's actually a pitching coach at a training facility out in Belport on Long Island.

[Don Hahn]

That's where Don saw him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, was he ever involved or played for the Long Island Ducks? I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. My son was in like a clinic at that facility and basically got to talking. And he said, you know, what do you want me to work on with your son? And I said, oh, well, he's got some anxiety issues when he's on the mound. And he said, I went through that myself. Google me. And I had no idea who the guy was. Really. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Don Hahn]

So as he moved on, was he a Long island duck? He was named to the 25th anniversary.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Team of the Long Island Ducks.

[Don Hahn]

Yes, sir.

[Alan]

Some of the great ducks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I thought, see, that's why I got confused that he was a Long island guy, because I think we got Donald.

[Alan]

So many ducks, not enough time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We love ducks. But that was a good call. Jay is in Newark. You're on. Don Hannah, Rosenberg.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, he lives on Long Island.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, there you go. What's up, Jay?

[Mike]

Hey, how you guys doing? Is there anything. Is there anything more egotistical than asking somebody to Google you? It just hit me right now when the guy was saying about.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I think that was more of a way of just like. Rather than explain it, why don't you just. Just Google my name? And you'll.

[Alan]

It would be. It would be worse if someone came up to you on the street and said, hey, you look familiar. You're like, google me. That would be worse than the way he did it. But I hear what you're saying.

[Mike]

Yeah, a bit pretentious, but no, I was calling because I've been annoyed at the Yankees for playing with their food with the Red Sox. The Mets can't afford to do that. Atlanta in 2021 came out the gate real, real slow, lost Acuna, came back and won the whole damn thing. I'm not saying they'll do that now, but with baseball, it'd be in a marathon. If you don't beat these seeds when you're supposed to, it could bite you. At the end of the year. You see it time and time again. The Mets last year is a great example of how they came out of the gate and they, you know, they ended up having a great year. So I'm not a Met fan. I'm a Yankee fan. But both these teams, man, while you got these teams down, you gotta keep them down, because you never know in baseball, man. You gotta win these games while they. While we're hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jay. It's a great call because. Yeah, look no further than the Nationals, the Mets at this time last year. I'm on the air screaming, they gotta sell, because they were never put to sleep. And the Braves have enough of a pedigree. There's a few guys on that team that were part of their last championship that if you don't put them to sleep, you may live to regret it. And if they're hanging around, it's your fault. You got seven games with them. I'm not asking to win all seven. That's a little bit too much to ask. But you know what? Win five of the seven. And if they, if they come back, Allen, then you tip your cap. Good on you. But if I take five out of seven and put you to sleep, then I can control your destiny. I got to go out there and do that. So get it done and start tonight. Because every game they win, there's life, there's belief. I don't need that as a Met fan. I don't need that team around. I got a chance to stomp on their head going back to the Chipper Jones days. I got a chance to finish them. Do it.

[Don Hahn]

That's. That's. I guess that's my experience as a fan. No matter how good your team is having a season, no matter how well they're playing in a season, when you play that one team that always seems to have your number, I mean, are the Braves a rival or they. Are they a thorn in the side kind of big brother always find a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way to beat you more like that, honestly. Because if you're a Met fan, you know, they're the right. If you're a Brave fan, it was just, you know, just another thing we had to step on on the way to another, you know, chance at a championship.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, so with that in mind, then, you know, as a fan, like, this team always gives us trouble. Even when they suck, they give us trouble. Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

That's why this, seeing them now twice over the next 10 days, like I'd have, like, this is where there's gotta be a little bit of juice, a little bit of buzz. There's got to be a little something in that clubhouse too, because the players, by now, the guys are there, they all know, the media knows, they'll talk about it. So it's no secret. Oh, we didn't know the Braves were like that, you know, so that's what I want to see, is there. That's what I want to see from the Yankees. That's why that losing five in a row to them, losing those back to back weekend series, that bothered me beyond anything. Not because I'm overreacting or trying to be dramatic, because I see, I've seen this before and it does bother me that as a team you don't yourself walk into Fenway and go, yeah, this is the Red Sox. We got to let them know right away. Not just, you know, well, it's just, it's just another game and long season, just another opponent. You know, no one's more important than the other. Hell no.

[Alan]

No, it is more important.

[Don Hahn]

It matters.

[Alan]

No one has mastered the let's make everything sound unimportant tone. Like Boonie, hey, what do you think about one of your best players going over the last 900 at bats?

[Don Hahn]

No. You know, yeah, bats were. I really like the barrel contact. Most important thing is the contact. You know, it looks like he's fighting a little bit, but you could see it. It's coming.

[Alan]

But Skip, he's over his last 900.

[Don Hahn]

900'S a lot. Yeah, I know. That's a, that's a big number. You don't normally see that, but, you.

[Alan]

Know, Melissa, you don't see numbers like that. But at the same time, he's efforting.

[Don Hahn]

We like the effort is the next at bat. Peter, focus that next at bet. And if he's, if he's, if he's 1 for 901, he's hot. That's the kind of hitter he can be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In 250 of the last 300 overs. He barreled up.

[Don Hahn]

He barreled up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No bad luck, you know, you know.

[Alan]

Into some bad luck.

[Don Hahn]

You know, some. You got to tip your cap to the defense. You know, a couple of those catch spectacular.

[Alan]

We like the Velo. We like the Velo that we're seeing. It's just a matter of hitting in the right place.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I think you're on mute.

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

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[Alan]

Wow, that was something.

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[Alan]

We're the only we're the only sports talk show that would rejoin playing Stove God Cooks. I just want to say that right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was that one of the names that Michael tried that time?

[Alan]

Oh my, no. It was Carlin.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right. Do we have that drop anywhere?

[Alan]

So Stove God Cooks Is awesome. And I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he say Stovetop? He didn't say it right. I forget what it was.

[Alan]

It's a complete debacle when Carlin tried to say it. I appreciated the shout out for my at the time what was the single off my project. But he crushed it and not in a good way. But yeah, I heard the new Clips album last night and Stove God's on it and so it reminded me of this great song of his that I love, which we just played and it's just one of the things that makes the special. You might hear Steve Miller coming back. You might hear Stove God cooks or as Carlin would call him, Stovetop Frooks or whatever he said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we got to find that somewhere. Is it there, Jacob?

[Don Hahn]

We don't have it in the system.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't erase brilliant.

[Alan]

No. I wonder what it's called. I'm going to find it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. In the meantime, Joe is in Tennessee. You're on, Don Hannah Rosenberg.

[Don Hahn]

Hey fellas, great show. Speaking of drops, I don't know if.

[Mike]

You guys picked it up and I.

[Don Hahn]

Guess about a half hour ago Mr. Rosenberg started singing words from a song from a 1975 disco hit by Silver Convention.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fly Robin, fly Fly Robin, fly.

[Alan]

Yes, he did.

[Don Hahn]

I was wondering what he was doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I believe him.

[Alan]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

Trying to conjure, you know, fly like an eagle and mixing that up with the eagles Fly, eagles fly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that correct? Oh, very good call, Joe.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Alan]

Well, hold on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Alan]

The sample in Redman's and Method Man's how high. It samples a few things. It samples the Steve Miller doot doot doot. That's the beat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan]

But then you have the fly Robin fly that's also in there too. So I don't know where, I don't know where I lost it. But I appreciate you. And by the way, if you're wondering, this is what Dom was just referencing. Zumo and freelord and Stovetop Cooks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Joe, I do appreciate that because Alan and I both caught it.

[Don Hahn]

But yeah, we jumped.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We kind of moved on. But I, I thought that was a catch by the. Very good.

[Alan]

I'm going to. I'm going to look at who sampled.

[Don Hahn]

Guys, can I ask a quick question here to you both want to. As I'm going through my get up email it's homework that we get ready. I have an answer. I want to see if you agree with me on this one question that they asked. It's. It's in relation, of course, Connor McDavid and his chase for the Cup. Who is the best player to never win a championship in all of sports? So who's the best player in all of sports to not have a ring? Now I don't know if it means currently, but I'm assuming it means forever. Well, I have an answer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What would you say my answer would be? Ted Williams.

[Don Hahn]

That was my answer.

[Alan]

And of course from my lifetime, Dan Marino. It's damn. Reno and Charles Barkley from my lifetime. Those are good one too.

[Don Hahn]

If it has to be current sports because it doesn't specify. So I'm going with Ted Williams. But I love Dan Marino as a, as a, as a. And a second choice especially on get up. Yeah, you know, see Don, you already figured it out. You're going to be on this show sooner rather than later.

[Alan]

Football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Who would be a current 4 major sports current player.

[Alan]

Well, Connors obviously that we're playing. Leaning into the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Connor McDavid.

[Don Hahn]

We're leaning into Connor McDavid. So if you, if we're not, we're assuming Aaron Judge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Good.

[Alan]

I mean that's right there, sitting right there. For now you'd have to explain who that is on get up but baseball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aaron Judge definitely in baseball. In football.

[Alan]

Josh Allen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Josh Allen, right.

[Alan]

That's getting there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So close. And you could make the case for Lamar Jackson. He's a good two time MVP and.

[Alan]

Then he coughs it up in the playoffs. Yeah, you could say Lamar or Josh. It's gotta be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Those are probably the two.

[Don Hahn]

So Judge and Josh Allen are the two.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. You can make the case Lamar Jackson more than Josh because at least Josh has had more success in the postseason, right?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. No one currently. To me the current NBA player would be Chris Paul, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Most accomplished player to never win.

[Alan]

Hold on, hold on. Chris Paul.

[Don Hahn]

Am I crazy? You know James Harden.

[Alan]

Harden Harden's there too though. You know Russell Westbrook, embiid.

[Don Hahn]

Oh God, I'm sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's.

[Don Hahn]

He's mbt one time mvp.

[Alan]

Oh, just only one time. What a loser.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chris Paul's going to the hall of Fame.

[Don Hahn]

Chris Paul's going to the hall of Fame.

[Peter Rosenberg]

True, true work to do.

[Alan]

MBE could go but he's gonna need to do some work.

[Don Hahn]

That Olympic ring though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And there's a slew in hockey because you can also. Connor McDavid obviously is the guy best player. But you know Leon draisaitl his teammate.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Austin Matthews.

[Don Hahn]

Oh boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know there's a few guys that are really great players. Okay having one but I think you're.

[Don Hahn]

Ted Williams is the safe choice. But Dan Marino would make me popular on the show, Paul, without question.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And everybody would know who you're talking about.

[Don Hahn]

I'm going back too far.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, honestly, we're all sports fans, right? And listen, there's some people that don't remember Dan Marino playing. I mean, it's been. It's been. It's been a few minutes since the last time he played.

[Don Hahn]

But like, Mad Dog would say Ted Williams, wouldn't he?

[Alan]

It's got to be that way in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My game last night.

[Alan]

Wait, no, no. You just made him your Cajun, Chris.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's the last guy to hit 4. 400, 406. Jacob, you don't have any recollection of Dan Marino, right? I mean.

[Alan]

No, no. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And obviously Ted Williams, I mean, he knows who he is. All you know is the head. Head was frozen. But which, which name pops more to you as somebody didn't see either of them play Ted Williams or Dan Marino? I would say probably Dan Marino just because he's a little more relevant culturally, especially around where I grew up. It's unfair.

[Don Hahn]

At least Damarino went to a Super Bowl.

[Alan]

But the issue isn't how far they came, is it? The issue is did they win it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ted Williams played in the World Series too. He didn't win. God, it's hard.

[Don Hahn]

You got me now. You got me. Like, not now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You listen, it's on. Get up. It's Dan Marino. Okay?

[Don Hahn]

Why else is going to say damn Marino? So I can get away with like, having. Because you go. You always. Because you know, on these shows, especially when it's multiple people, you got to have a backup because somebody's gonna. Somebody might say your answer and that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, I agree. I'm tell you, here's your backup because they don't want to get too old timey. It's still baseball. But Ken Griffey Jr.

[Alan]

Griffey's a good one. They'll know who that is, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They'll know who it is.

[Don Hahn]

They'll know the kid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I think it's. It's at least. It's. It's baseball, but it's at least It's Ken Griffey Jr. Like, he resonates, right?

[Alan]

But judge is still better if you do a baseball one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if we were going to go. But if he's going current. But if you're going to go old time. Does Ken Griffey Jr. Hit better than Ted Williams? As far as, like, relevancy is concerned for the get up, I don't know.

[Alan]

Though, because the name Ted Williams is.

[Don Hahn]

He's freaking Ted Williams.

[Alan]

Ted Williams is Mantle. Of Jason. Ted Williams is Mantle. How do you guys like this in terms of just like mainstream who's heard of baseball players? Here's what I got for you. Ruth. Yeah, right.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Mantle is Ruth. A Jace Williams is Mantle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, he's.

[Alan]

It's that big a deal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, we can't go to Mike in Brooklyn because we're really running out of time, but I want to give his idea. Do you have Mike Trout over Judge just because of the length of time I might go Trout over Judge just because he's been in the league long.

[Don Hahn]

He hasn't even sniffed it like he.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So doesn't it make it worse? Doesn't it make it worse? At least Judge played in the World Series. Guys played one playoff game series in his life. It's got to be. You got to go Trout.

[Don Hahn]

What's he got, three MVPs?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. And listen, Judge. Judge is the better player now, but Trout was the player before Judge and he's been at it longer. Interesting. But we've just. We did your work for you.

[Don Hahn]

I got another question for you, but it's more fun. We'll do it later.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about we'll do it during the end. These are fun questions today on ESPN New York.

[Alan]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.