Hour 3: Brunson Injury & Damien Woody

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Brunson Injury & Damien Woody

ESPN New York | November 13, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

Hour 3 of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg dives deep into New York sports, focusing on the latest Jalen Brunson injury update, dissecting the Knicks' recent performance and fan expectations, analyzing NFL storylines (namely the Jets and Patriots), and features a detailed, insightful interview with NFL analyst and former Jet, Damien Woody. The hosts' signature blend of hard sports analysis, humor, and genuine chemistry is on full display, interspersed with listener calls and self-deprecating banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jalen Brunson Injury Update & Knicks Impact

[02:31–03:58]

• Alan Hahn breaks news regarding Jalen Brunson's ankle:
  • "Jalen Brunson sustained a grade one right ankle sprain... Going to miss tomorrow night's game against the Miami Heat. And then day-to-day evaluated daily. I don't like the evaluated daily part..." – Alan Hahn [02:43]
• The group discusses the potential silver lining:
  • Hahn highlights it's not the worst-case and Brunson may only miss minimal time: "Could have been way worse... Gives him four days to see if he could be ready for the next game." [03:27]
• General sentiment: Not ideal, but "could have been way worse."

2. Knicks Overreactions & Fan Emotional Swings

[05:54–12:12]

• The hosts come clean about getting caught up in the Knicks’ hot streak, only to stumble with their first loss and Brunson’s injury.
  • Rosenberg on fan overreactions: "I tweeted out, maybe we moved a little too quickly on the old Knicks today... That's not what I'm saying. Do you want to say let's not put him in the championship." [06:33]
• Alan Hahn’s self-critique:
  • "Did I jump the gun with talking about the Knicks and how good they look and can be this year, or is Peter being that guy overreacting to what was one loss after a five-game winning streak?" [07:10]
• Discussion about “red flags” in Knicks’ recent games: fatigue, loss of focus, and lack of a step-up scorer when Brunson is out.
  • "There's not that someone else that can step up... the offense couldn't save a defense that had gotten soft..." – Alan Hahn [10:55]
• Tone: Humorous humility, self-awareness of classic Knicks fan ups and downs.

3. Chemistry, Banter, and “Phonegate”

[09:22–24:28]

• On-air ribbing as Hahn catches Don & Peter on their phones while he talks. Banter follows about loyalty and engagement.
  • "You both, like, literally, I started talking, you both went like this... I'm looking for somebody, anybody." – Alan Hahn [10:03 & 23:40]
• Listeners call in to weigh in on the “phone incident”—many see it as harmless, good-natured needling that reflects real camaraderie.
• Self-reflection on showing personality and authenticity on-air
  • “Is it a problem that I take off the filter here, like I thought? No, we're supposed to do... I'll just tell you what I'm thinking from now.” – Alan Hahn [44:09]

4. NFL: Coach Evaluations, Jets & Patriots Matchup, and Quarterback Debate

[14:06–16:45; 31:51–39:56]

• Listener “Danny from Centerport” voices doubts about his coach and potential QB choices: "I can't be proud if he puts this quarterback out there... it's mind-blowing." [15:24]
• Don and others weigh the challenges of coaching decisions given limited QB choices and strong opposing defenses.
• Damien Woody Segment
  [30:01–40:22]
  • On Brian Daboll’s (Giants) firing: “It’s a results-driven business... you don’t win, this is what happens... but he’s a great offensive mind and will land on his feet.” [30:29]
  • Giants’ coaching job: Woody prioritizes a veteran head coach, not another coordinator. Cites Mike Vrabel as an ideal type. [32:08]
  • Jets vs Patriots: Praises Jets defensive improvements and Breece Hall's usage; warns about the Patriots’ dominant run defense and offensive unpredictability: "They got a bunch of guys... on any given Sunday, a guy could just explode..." [36:45]
  • Woody strongly advocates for quickly switching QBs if Fields is ineffective, prioritizing evaluation of young offensive players. [35:02]
  • On the NFLPA report card controversy: Woody finds NFL’s stance “crazy,” credits report grades for positive changes in facilities and culture. [38:11]

5. Listener Calls: Knicks, Compliments, and Show Format

[12:27–16:09; 43:13–50:34]

• Passionate Knicks fans call in, oscillating between hope and anxiety.
• Recurring caller Danny from Centerport finally delivers a heartfelt compliment to Alan Hahn for his professionalism and poise during a recent on-court interview with Jalen Brunson:
  • “My man, you were shining like a diamond, man... Your suit looked great. You looked sharp. You weren’t weighted by anything.” – Caller Chris Wanton ("Danny from Centerport") [49:32]
• Light debate about banning another caller, “Danny from Long Island,” due to past call-in drama.

6. Fun Moments & Pop Culture Tangents

• Joking about travel rip-offs (Amtrak Acela), Alan’s tall stature during player interviews, and random TV personalities’ red faces.
• Peter recounts a “Knicks in the wild” sighting: “I saw Josh Hart in the wild... Handsome man, by the way.” [52:56]
• Reflections on iconic Knicks (Larry Johnson) and playful brainstorming about Halloween costumes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Knicks optimism:
  “I got a little drunk... I should have seen this coming. And I'm mad that I didn't see it.” – Alan Hahn [06:01, 10:55]
• On phone distractions:
  "You both, like, literally, I started talking, you both went like this... the ultimate, 'Yeah, I'm checking out.'" – Alan Hahn [10:03, 23:11]
• On the seriousness of Brunson’s injury:
  "It is certainly better than two to four weeks or any of that stuff... The daily means we'll just see how he feels each day." – Alan Hahn [02:52]
• Damien Woody on Daboll firing:
  "At the end of the day it’s a results driven business... and when you don’t win, man, this is what happens." – Damien Woody [30:29]
• Woody on Patriots’ resurgence:
  “They’re top 10 in both offense and defense... Drake May... is an MVP candidate. And they can just beat you in a lot of different ways.” [36:07]
• Woody on NFLPA report cards:
  "I think the PA is doing owners a favor by doing this... it ignited change... that's because of these reports where these teams felt compelled..." [38:11]
• Caller on Alan Hahn:
  “You were shining like a diamond, man... looking really good, man. So God bless you. What you're doing...” – Danny from Centerport [49:32]

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Important Timestamps

• [02:31–03:58] — Jalen Brunson injury update & implications
• [06:01–12:12] — Knicks’ fan emotional swings, red flags, and overreactions
• [10:03, 23:11] — “Phonegate” banter highlights hosts’ camaraderie
• [14:06–16:45] — Callers debate NFL coaching, quarterbacks, and team cultures
• [30:01–40:22] — Damien Woody's NFL insights (Giants coaching search, Jets-Pats, NFLPA report cards)
• [49:32] — Danny from Centerport's compliment to Alan Hahn

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, witty, often self-deprecating
• Reflects genuine passion for New York sports, with hosts openly vacillating between optimism and skepticism
• Good-natured ribbing and warmth between hosts and listeners

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Summary

Hour 3 of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg is vintage New York sports radio: a sharp mix of timely news (Brunson update, NFL coaching hot seats), passionate analysis (Knicks highs and lows, Jets-Patriots breakdown), audience engagement (“phonegate”, memorable compliments), and superb chemistry among the panel. Damien Woody’s guest spot adds substantial NFL expertise, and the show closes with light-hearted Knicks tales and more playful banter. Whether you’re an obsessive Knicks fan, a New York football devotee, or just love honest, entertaining sports talk, this episode captures the essence of why the trio connects so strongly with local listeners.

Transcript

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don Allen]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Allen]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

The day this is at this sport. Yes.

[Don Allen]

And that's what I think of when I see jets and Patriots playing on a Thursday in 2025.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you can think about the Patriots because they're playing some of the best football in the league. The problem is the jets are playing.

[Don Allen]

Right. And you know what? Let's not forget about that 13 1/2 point spread. But I'm picking the jets by 3 point play because I'm being that guy. What are you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, that is that guy Thursday. That's unreal.

[Don Allen]

Because you know why everybody can't believe. How is it possible? Because it's the NFL, brother. Have you paid attention?

[Alan Hahn]

Are you watching?

[Don Allen]

Are you watching that game? The history kicks off at 8:15 tonight from Foxborough, the History Islanders at Vegas. And listen, it's going to get, you know, kittens stepping on the remote ratings compared to the football. I get it. But. But true entertainment's going to come from the Islander Golden Knights game.

[Alan Hahn]

Can I give you a quick Brenton Update just got worse.

[Don Allen]

Oh, this is more important than anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you did.

[Don Allen]

And you know what? It's bad news because it's today. And he said, you know what happens if you get an update today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But go ahead.

[Alan Hahn]

Ian Begley, Shams. So it's being reported in several locations. Jalen Brunson sustained a grade one right ankle sprain.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Going to miss tomorrow night's game against the Miami Heat. And then day to day evaluated daily. I don't like the evaluated daily part. It is certainly better than two to four weeks or any of that stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Much better.

[Alan Hahn]

The daily means we'll just see how he feels each day. Now there's two days off before they play in Miami on Monday. It's a home and home. So you're buying some extra days to see if he'll be good enough to go Monday night. But the Knicks will be without their star point guard Friday night at the Garden to finish the seven game homestand.

[Don Allen]

Overall though, that's not bad news.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. It's no again, could have been way worse. It's not the two to four week window that you get sometimes that's more concerning. This is. This does feel like day to day evaluated daily. Certainly does sound like a day to day proposition. And it said, let's see how it improves. And keep in mind again today, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Gives him four days to see if he could be ready for the next game after Friday, which is Monday.

[Don Allen]

Not what you want.

[Alan Hahn]

Nope.

[Don Allen]

But it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It could have been worse though.

[Don Allen]

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[Alan Hahn]

Yes, it is.

[Don Allen]

So you got a nice Friday, Nice weekend.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Allen]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Allen]

Yeah, sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the biggest rip off. Not a. Not a bigger ripoff in travel. And I say that you don't confirm. Except for. Except for you know everything else about travel but it's bad. I mean you think about it, it's like $200 more. 150 you it's 30 minutes faster. You would people like I'll take it to your cellar. Well, they act as if they're breaking the sound barrier.

[Alan Hahn]

All you're doing is not stopping at every stop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Don Allen]

It's apparently me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, that's why you're gonna take it, because someone else is paying for it. But when you look at it yourself and you go, hey, I'm gonna.

[Don Allen]

I. I've looked at that before, but it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's such crap. But train, the train business. What are we doing by the way?

[Alan Hahn]

The wi fi horrific could get it to get no work done.

[Don Allen]

But I'll tell you this, you know, a half hour is not nothing. When you know when Show's over at 6:30. Big difference. 6:30 and 7. Half hour is not nothing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, particularly in that case. But you're right because of how much I enjoyed the last half hour of the show.

[Don Allen]

But I will say that I'm looking forward to going down to D.C. get to see Alex Ovechkin. How much longer we're gonna be able to see him?

[Alan Hahn]

Say hi to Ovie for us.

[Don Allen]

Devil's hot. Huge win last night. Huge win for the Rangers last night. They put up a six spot in Tampa. I think they scored four goals on five shots on Vasilevsky. He's only going to the hall of Fame. So just get the Rangers out of the garden. But 12 goals, was it 12. No, 13 goals in two games. Not bad. And the Islanders, you know, back to back wins against the two locals. So, you know, hockey's in a good place. So we got that football, not so much basketball. You know, the Brunson News.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We just went a little crazy yesterday, Alan. You know, we started talking about what we could have here. We started counting W's a little bit. All.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's look, listen, I'm the first to admit it. Peter didn't wait for me to do it. He just jumped in. There it is. There's my theme music. That's my walk up music. I don't know why I should have felt that. I should have known. But can I admit that I just. I got a little drunk.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can you start it from the beginning of Don't Fear the reboot?

[Alan Hahn]

This is nooni.

[Don Allen]

That that's all you need.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all you need. Just that everybody knows what that means when you hear that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

More cowbell.

[Alan Hahn]

More cowbell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And more Alan Hahn. But it's coming in.

[Alan Hahn]

And just how I was drunk. I can't help it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then, and then I got. I got. People got mad at me because I tweeted, I said at the end of the game, I tweeted out, maybe we moved a little too quickly on the old Knicks today. And so we're like, oh really? Are you gonna now you're gonna go the jump out the window the other way? Well, say they stink. I'm like, that's. That's not what I'm saying. Do you want to say let's not put him in the championship.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's take a temperature today. You want to pull out the old thermometer? Yeah. 800-919-3776.

[Don Allen]

Truly take it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The true temperature.

[Don Allen]

The mercury, you know, the. The glass.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right, the glass one for sure. It was I wrong glass up your. I jumped the gun.

[Don Allen]

Market it that way.

[Alan Hahn]

Did I jump the gun with talking about the Knicks and how good they look and can be this year, or is Peter being that guy overreacting to what was one loss after a five game winning streak? As bad as it looked last night, it also looked like a team that was very tired in the second game of back to back and got out physical. I saw red flags in the game, but the offense has been able to cover a lot of those red flags lately. It just wasn't there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's what I'm saying though.

[Alan Hahn]

So who's wrong? Who's right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Donnie. Here's what I'm saying. It's not that I'm saying there's like a problem. I am saying relative to the conversation.

[Alan Hahn]

Does he see a lower third on our YouTube now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, these are professionals.

[Alan Hahn]

That's impressive.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Kevin Clark]

Man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Give these jobs to chimps.

[Alan Hahn]

No, they don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They give them to Anthony.

[Alan Hahn]

Apparently my job did, but other than.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That, no, it looks great. But listen, I'm not saying that there's a massive problem or they stink. I was saying relative to our conversation, which was, you know, we know OKC is the best team in the league, but then let's start having a conversation. Let's start planning winning the East. All I was saying was it's sort of how I feel about Jackson Dart. I'm seeing a lot of good things I'm not ready to say. You have a quarterback for 10 years yet the Knicks have every reason to compete for the East. If they were already there though, the big boy move would not have been being completely outplayed on the second. I know it's the second half of back to back. Hey, young NBA fans. There was a time when that didn't mean you automatically lost by 30 points.

[Don Allen]

Especially back to back at home and especially when you rested Mitchell Robinson in the first game so that he'd be there for the conference game in the second. Right. So they were planning it Out. Hey, we want to win both these games.

[Alan Hahn]

This is what. All right, so red flag one. Okay. Red flag one is how they finished the game the night before. And they, they ended that game. They were not in a good mood in the locker room after the game because they won the game. Yes, but a 28 point lead was down it like it was, it got too close, dicey. And what you started to see was the defense getting a little loose and getting a little soft because the offense was just coming so easy. Right. I love how you both picked up phones as I started doing that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm checked out.

[Alan Hahn]

Just, just. Well, I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying to get acknowledgement. That's all I'm saying. I, I, I answered you, so my kids do it. It drives me crazy.

[Don Allen]

But, but, but your kids don't have a producer giving you information on the show that they're doing. They don't listen to you because they don't like you. I like you and I'm listening to you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'm also trying to do a show. Why would he call that out?

[Alan Hahn]

It's on its cameras everywhere.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, but I, and we both did. If it would have been one of.

[Don Allen]

Us, Anthony Pusick, text me.

[Alan Hahn]

You should, you should have seen how fast the two of you both, like, literally, I started talking. You both went like this. Like, it really was like the obvious. Like, you know what? I'm not really interested.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've seen enough.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, it really was amazing. The, the synchronicity of the pickup.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Video of this.

[Alan Hahn]

We should do reboot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if our, our.

[Alan Hahn]

It was amazing timing, which is the only reason why I brought it up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, go ahead, continue, please.

[Don Allen]

Look at my shot. They wouldn't have seen it. I'm upset because I got called out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, let me see. I want, I can't tell. Don goes. I gotta tell you, I see what you're saying, Don. I actually loved it. I mean, it's a bad guy thing that he did, but it's really quality rating.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm just trying, I'm just trying to point out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You lost me.

[Alan Hahn]

This is what I see.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How far did you get into it about sentence drift?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't even remember where I was. I have no idea where I was. I just started making a point.

[Don Allen]

You mentioned the red flag that they were soft on defense at the end of the first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no. And then they were unhappy in the locker room about that.

[Don Allen]

We're multitasking.

[Alan Hahn]

And then the next day they play Very next day, they play a rested team that is notoriously physical. And the start of the game, they came out punching, physical, nasty. And the Knick players were almost like, I'm not in the mood for this tonight. And that. That's. That's a red flag. Like, wait a minute. Like you said, Peter, the good teams back to back, doesn't matter. And I was waiting for someone because. All right, so Brunson looked a little tired. Is missing shots. Short Town's missing shots. Oh, Giannonoi missing shots. Okay, so someone else gonna have to do something. And no one else really did anything. And that was the red flag. There's not that someone else that can step up. Jordan Clarkson was brought in to be that guy. Sometimes he didn't have a good game. So those were the issues. And then the offense couldn't save a defense that had gotten soft over the last couple of games because they didn't have to be tough because they've been scoring so easily. So I should have. I should have seen this comment. And I'm mad that I didn't see you misread. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The night before because I was so.

[Alan Hahn]

So drunk on it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but you also. I remember you said this. You liked the fact that they seemed angry about it and you thought, all right, that's going to translate into a dub tomorrow. And it didn't play that way.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's what I mean. I misread it. I was drunk off the optimism instead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of seeing the reality in the picks last week.

[Don Allen]

Maybe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe you're just not feeling.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm in a rut.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, you're just.

[Alan Hahn]

I need better help.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't have what read, but I.

[Don Allen]

Appreciate what you're saying. That would have.

[Alan Hahn]

I. I was a guy.

[Don Allen]

That would have been money.

[Alan Hahn]

That was. I threw that one blind, hoping you'd be.

[Don Allen]

There you go.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Oh, great.

[Don Allen]

1-800-919-3776, Chris Wanton, you're on ESPN New York. What's up, Chris?

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Hey. Hey, Don Allen, Peter. Hope you guys can hear me.

[Don Allen]

Good.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Listen, I. I just want to say. I know. I want to talk about it, and it is what it is. Magic played great back to back. There was a lot of things that we should have done better, but all I know is I only cooperated the second half. But I know in the first half, Mitch got two early fouls quick, and then last Heart got two.

[Don Allen]

Well, now we can't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm losing.

[Don Allen]

You repeat that again because we did.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Lose two early fouls. Mitch had two early fouls. In the fourth and the third right away, which were, which were suspect calls. The whole second half. There was a lot of times there was m ones that could have been had. It was a nationally public game and 85% of the money was on the Knicks. And listen, just sometimes that's the way the whistles go in the NBA. We know how it works with what happened a couple weeks ago.

[Don Allen]

Wow, wow.

[Alan Hahn]

Allegations, Chris. Here we go, allegations.

[Don Allen]

But I gotta be honest with you. Fix was in, but I've said it. With everything that's gone down, I can't shout down these people that want to go there, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It depends on the situation. I shot down some Chiefs ones can be hard. You watch some of those games, you go, all right, I don't know what.

[Don Allen]

About what he said?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. I don't see that being.

[Don Allen]

I don't. I don't either. I'm just saying I'm not going to get mad when people go there based on the current climate.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don Allen]

They always would go there and we base it would completely be baseless now. It's not completely baseless. Still could be wrong, but not completely baseless. Let's go to Danny center port, you're on espn New York. Hi, Danny.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Hey boys.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

How are we doing?

[Caller Damian Woody]

Good.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

You know Alan, before I get to, before I get to my point, so make sure before I hang up, I give you a personal compliment. Seriously, you know, just after I get to my point here. You know, guys, listen, I want to believe in this coach and I do believe in this coach right at the moment. Okay? We knew we were getting involved with Aaron Glenn. We knew we were getting a first year coach. Some of the things he's done are definitely suspect, the calls are suspect. But I want to judge a on his body of work right now and I think his body of work at the moment is pretty decent. Right. His team is fought for him. A couple of breaks, he could add a couple of more wins. You know, I just, I'm having a hard time believing into him, especially tonight. Allen, if he puts Fields out on his field tonight, you know, he's trying to tell me about building a winning culture and he wants to win, he wants the fans to be proud. I can't be proud if he puts this quarterback out there tonight and if he does, it's got to be a short leash. If we see what we've been seeing in some of these games, I can't get behind him and leaving him on the field. I really can't because then I have to Start to question him. Like, he's been in his game for so long and he's watched so much football. How he could sit back and say this is competent quarterback play is mind blowing. So if you want to support the team and, and, and the fans, you got to give this guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what else. You know what I'd say to that? Danny, too. They're going. They're going for three in a row. They're going for, like, Mojo tonight.

[Don Allen]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like we. And by the way, you. You saw you somehow beat this 8 and 2 juggernaut that the Patriots are becoming on national television next week. We're having a conversation about this. I know it sounds insane. This is a team that's actually showing some heart here and they're putting a little something together.

[Alan Hahn]

Now who's drunk?

[Don Allen]

And I know, I know.

[Alan Hahn]

They're only one who away from that.

[Don Allen]

He is so right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Aaron should treat the game that way. And if Fields is horrible, you got to make the movie.

[Alan Hahn]

This is your playoff.

[Don Allen]

But I would say this. Thank you for the phone call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no. He had another point.

[Don Allen]

But it's okay that Fields has had moments. All right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He had one moment against Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

[Don Allen]

All right. And then. Unless it. Last week he was awful, but it is at least against a really good defense.

[Alan Hahn]

Week one doesn't count now.

[Don Allen]

It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was so long.

[Don Allen]

All right, I understand. He stinks, but you don't have choices. It's not like you've got, you know, the golden goose sitting on the sidelines that you traded back into the first round. The get Tyrod Taylor. All right. Do I think Taylor right now is better than Fields? Probably, but it's not like he's got great choices to make. Cleveland's a really good defense, and you're going up against the team that's really good against the run, so that's going to be taken out from you. And you lost your best receiver.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Allen]

So I don't know how good any of these quarterbacks are going to look.

[Alan Hahn]

Like a quarterback that can't throw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm told that my normal distraction is worth bringing up in this case. What's happening on the ESPN screen up there? Is it that cold? Is there a sunburn situation? How can their faces be that red?

[Alan Hahn]

I think Matt Berry has sunburned.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think Matt Barry burn himself?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, first of all, every Saturday he's in some Southern college campus doing crazy stuff.

[Don Allen]

How cold can it be? They're just in suits and I'm not even wearing jackets.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. He's sunburned. That's not windburn. That's not Tom Coughlin face.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Wait a minute.

[Alan Hahn]

I think he's sunburned.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The condition on his coughlin.

[Don Allen]

How long does your face stay stun? 3rd degree burns on his face.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that bad makeup, by the way?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The other guy has it, too. Why is his face so red?

[Alan Hahn]

You're right.

[Don Allen]

I think. God, it's a. You know, it almost looks like they're. They're.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're soused.

[Don Allen]

I know, but when you know that's not the case.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even know what that means.

[Alan Hahn]

It's from slap shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And does it mean drunk?

[Don Allen]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sauce.

[Alan Hahn]

Sauce. But south.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But south. I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

You've heard sounds before, but only in slap shot, right?

[Don Allen]

I'm sure that's where I got it from.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't hit Brophy. Hey, look at him. He's.

[Don Allen]

I don't know if there's something wrong with our tv.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's worrisome, though, but, like.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, we're not.

[Don Allen]

His hands look normal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's a different.

[Don Allen]

But like, if he was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Look at the color right here on the game. The color on the game looks perfect.

[Don Allen]

If he was burned on Saturday. It's Thursday.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, we know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want to put up.

[Don Allen]

You got, like, some Noxzema or something? I mean, what are you gonna do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's put a message in some. No, it'll be more. We need to. First of all, you need to use some suntan lotion, and then you need to use some moisturizer and some. Plant some aloe.

[Don Allen]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rub a little aloe on there. Call it a day. Good Lord.

[Don Allen]

Yeah, it's definitely not cold. He's got no jacket on. The other guy's got, like, a hoodie.

[Alan Hahn]

Get the bottom of this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're gonna figure Allen's texting people.

[Don Allen]

Oh, look at that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, I went back.

[Don Allen]

How do you spell sauce?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I went back and looked at. I went back and looked at the tape when Alan called us out. No one watching would have known that we. That we did what he said.

[Don Allen]

He's got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Both of our phones were below.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he just couldn't take my view.

[Alan Hahn]

Is like, right here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he just saw this.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. And you're simultaneous. It was synchronous you both. As I started. My point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what you feel like? It's like.

[Alan Hahn]

It was funny.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You. You know what it's like to be Peter Rosenberg on the K show. Now, it wouldn't Be Don. But there'll be plenty of times when I start talking and Michael go, but.

[Don Allen]

That was because he could care less about you or anything else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I know you got a message.

[Don Allen]

From the producer, but I got a message from the producer similar to the text that Allen got about Brunson. Should he have been sitting on that if I was making some sort of brilliant born or do you look at your phone so I see a text from Anthony. I'm like, this might be something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It could be important.

[Don Allen]

Like maybe they called the Jet game tonight because of lack of interest. I'd want to be able to tell people that. Right? You've.

[Alan Hahn]

You're waiting for. I'm sorry.

[Don Allen]

It's better help. There's no better help. You listen to the number when he gives it.

[Alan Hahn]

Trust me, I've had this pounds. I've for years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Time out to pound you guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen, you guys understand that I'm not. I'm not building in Manhattan that has the scaffold around it. And you walk by going, they still working on that thing? Yeah, that's me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's damaged. He's got real problems.

[Alan Hahn]

The scaffold's still here.

[Don Allen]

It's not going down. I'm. I'm a wreck.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I think you're way.

[Alan Hahn]

No, you don't understand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, he's a maniac building.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, the facade's fine, but didn't I tell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I told you a couple months.

[Alan Hahn]

Ago, the structure is a mess.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, exactly. The facade looks great.

[Alan Hahn]

The facade internally, though, we've got all kinds of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, listen, it looks like a brand new Maserati. You lift up the hood, it's a 71 pit, though.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? The plugs, spark plugs are just running into the engine. There's water pouring out. You don't know what's gonna.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't know what to do if we're just trying to get down the street.

[Don Allen]

If he had said during the break, a guy.

[Caller Damian Woody]

It's not for nothing. I was trying to make a point.

[Don Allen]

You're looking at your phone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, that's. I'd have been like, that's a good point. That's a bad job.

[Don Allen]

I guess on the air, nobody saw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but they heard him.

[Don Allen]

Yeah, well, now they know. Yeah, now we. I don't like bad guys that don't care.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no. I don't know if you look like bad guys. I don't care. You look like. Who are like, I don't give a rip what this guy's had got to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Say, but that's the exact opposite.

[Don Allen]

I give a rip about the show now. Full disclosure, Anthony was just reconfirming the the Mets hall of Famers.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, that's big.

[Don Allen]

That are going into the Mets hall of Fame.

[Alan Hahn]

Huge.

[Don Allen]

I don't know if I needed to see it at that particular second, but I don't know unless I look, listen, I do enough self loathing on this show. There's only room for one from now. I mean this is, this is Alan's idea.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don Allen]

Is that don't text us during Saturday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I will say this.

[Don Allen]

Everybody's got to wait during the. I don't care if, if, if, if.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said that two segments ago. Your phone just got it. That's not on me and I apologize.

[Don Allen]

I see a text, I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You suck, Pusick.

[Don Allen]

It's because I'm not staring at my phone. Because I'm completely intrigued by what my co hosts say. The one time I glance down, I see that there's a text, I pick it up. If I was ignoring you all the time, I would know every text. I'd be looking at Twitter, I'd be texting Anthony, please text me something. This guy won't shut up. And that doesn't happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you realize that?

[Alan Hahn]

Have you ever sent that text before with other hosts? I'm curious now.

[Don Allen]

No, I've never.

[Alan Hahn]

Never.

[Don Allen]

I've thought of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But also Alan's way out of bounds here too because just with this confirmed, just cause someone. We already said that's confirmed because just texting. I understand why it's irritating because I really have had to power through this many times. I get it and I know I do it to other people and people be on their phones the show as well. But in Alan's case, I mean I know so many broadcasters, we all do. Who care deeply about their job. I won't name names. And you could text them in between plays and they respond. It doesn't mean they're not dialed in. They don't care. It just means over time. And I'm not saying this is a good thing. We all get used to. But now we're having a battle of sensitivity. Because you have Alan play Ralph Tresnit because you have Alan who is so sensitive that he saw us get up on our phones and it made him feel bad. But now you have Don who's being sensitive about being called out. So we've got double sensitivity working against each other here. Once again, it's the irresistible force of the immovable object.

[Alan Hahn]

It's actually a great song, though, Jo. I don't mind this because I was.

[Don Allen]

Publicly called out, so I should be sensitive. But it was.

[Alan Hahn]

First of all, it was the both of you. Second of all, it's the view. You have to understand the synchronicity of the view. I'm looking this way, and I see two hands. Just the minute I reach for the phone. That's the ultimate. Yeah, I'm checking out. I'm just a second.

[Don Allen]

He's talking about Michael K. And I could tell you that when Michael K. Was looking at his phone, 90% of the time was because he did not care what you were saying, because usually when you were done talking, he'd put the phone down and go, interesting, and then move on to the next subject. We continued to be engaged in the conversation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Told you what you said.

[Don Allen]

Right. So you know what, though?

[Alan Hahn]

This is what made the show work. You two would lean on each other in those moments when he would fall into the glass and you had nose.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You had no one.

[Alan Hahn]

I had no one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is by himself.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm looking for somebody, anybody. But there is.

[Don Allen]

But there is that moment because there is not that moment. I can't speak for Peter, because maybe he was checked out. No, but, you know, when you're sitting in this seat, you've got to pay attention to other things. Also, Peter and I have to look at our phones because our parking might be up. There's a lot of things that make us want to grab our phone that have nothing to do with you not being interesting in what you're having to say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, listen. Sure, there are times when you're not interesting, but that wasn't one of them.

[Don Allen]

There are times I'm not interesting. You. You're not interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How dare you?

[Don Allen]

Any. The show's not interesting, but that's not necessarily the reason why we're picking up our phone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it's not right. That is beautiful.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Allen]

I mean, I had. I'm gonna tell you about a moment that I. A similar moment that I had in Los Angeles.

[Alan Hahn]

This is good. This is healthy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're getting this with me.

[Don Allen]

But you know what? I'm gonna do it quickly because Damian Woody's coming up. But he's a good guy. He can wait.

[Alan Hahn]

He can handle it.

[Don Allen]

Because, you know, I'm new to doing the play by play. So I'm in LA and I go into the radio booth to talk to Chico Resh. Sure. All right. But I'm a little nervous not being in the television booth, so I'm looking at my phone to see if they're texting me stuff that I need to know for the game. But I wanted to go say hello to Chico.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Allen]

So Chico's talking to me. I glance at my phone, he's like, oh, you're looking at your phone? I'm like, no, no, I. Chico, no, I care about what you're saying. I just. They might be asking for me. And I was done. I was cooked.

[Alan Hahn]

In the old days if you did this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but that's the sign.

[Alan Hahn]

Even though, if you're just curious what time it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Alan's feelings, though, were much more reasonable than Chico's because I hate when that happens. When you're talking to someone, but, you know, you need to keep an eye on something and you feel bad, but you're like, I gotta look. And so you're just like, all right. I hate whenever someone does that to me. I never call them out. Now, if it continued for 40 seconds, I'd be like, hey, do you need a minute? But like, you gotta give people the two second check. Like, no, but see, what's that, though?

[Alan Hahn]

What was that? Why did you show me that?

[Don Allen]

I don't know. Dpietro texted. Why would he say, I'm not sure. I don't know what we were talking about at the time. What would we. Just now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but why would anyone send a picture of that?

[Don Allen]

Why would you have that at the ready?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's. We know him to be a heterosexual man. Why would he send a picture of that?

[Alan Hahn]

Which means he had to Google it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he googled it. And why did I look? I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

And now I can't.

[Don Allen]

He just googled a picture and sent it to us. I can just imagine what his pop up would be on. You said, you know, it's popped up. Well, listen, not well, not full, is it though?

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[Don Allen]

I'm loving the old REO Speedwagon. I was listening. I actually was listening to this song on the way to work today. How about that? Were you So I think Jacob just randomly rent free in my head. Yeah, it's a good thing, you know, you know the song at all.

[Alan Hahn]

I absolutely know this.

[Don Allen]

On an album that's got the best album title of all time. REO Speedwagon.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Allen]

You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish.

[Alan Hahn]

I did not know that one.

[Don Allen]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

That's an old.

[Don Allen]

It's a great line. It's a line that I hear Damian Woody uses every once in a while when he's trying to pick up women. Time now for Damian Woody Report, which.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Allen]

You didn't use that line back in the day.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Man.

[Caller Damian Woody]

I don't have any game, man. My wife got me. I didn't get her. I don't have any game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh boy.

[Don Allen]

That's funny, man. How you doing, all right?

[Caller Damian Woody]

I'm good, man, I'm good. How you guys doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, good.

[Don Allen]

We're just, you know, getting ready for this game tonight. But before we dive into jets and Patriots, just your thoughts on the Dable firing. And with seven games remaining, is there a world in which Kafka can get a serious look at what maintaining this job beyond this year?

[Caller Damian Woody]

Well, I will say as far as Brian Dabel is concerned, he's a friend of mine and I hate to see that it came down to this, but you know, at the end of the day it's a results driven business. And when you have, I think the stat was like four games where he had double digit leads that were blown this year and you know, just mismanaging, you know, mismanaging the quarterback. And when you don't win, man, this is what happens. And he said he's had plenty of times, you know, plenty of time here in New York to kind of get this thing rectified and on the right path and unfortunately didn't lead to that. But I still have the highest regard and as far as Brian and his office of mind is concerned and he'll land on his feet somewhere. But as far as Mike Kafka is concerned is, you know, he was a guy that's been in kind of circulation as far as potential head coaching jobs in, in previous cycles. So I think this will be a prime opportunity to see what he can, what he can do in this, these few games with the New York Giants. I'm sure that, you know, this opportunity for them to really peep out what he can do. And I've said about the Giants, this giant situation, this might be the best. It might be the best opening when it. When it's all said and done because obviously the market, the quarterback, the pieces that they have on his team, it's going to be a very attractive job. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.

[Alan Hahn]

They would. If there's anyone that you could just pick. So without like getting into all the details of availability stuff, if you could just pick somebody and say this guy would be perfect for this job or I'd love to see this guy get that job or have that job, who would it be?

[Caller Damian Woody]

You know, I haven't thought too much on it. I think my criteria, though, the one thing I will say I think the Giants need to do, I think they need to go to a veteran coach. I think someone who has prior coaching experience, like a. Like a variable, like a variable type that went to New England, I don't think that, you know, no more coordinators this go around. I think they need a proven commodity, someone has been there, done that, can handle the job because it is a big job. And, you know, you got this young, bright quarterback that you need to round in the form. And so I would look towards a coach with veteran experience.

[Don Allen]

All right, let's shift over to tonight's game. Jets Patriots doesn't have the. The excitement that we usually get out of. Jets, Patriots. One team's definitely on the way up and the jets have won a couple of games in a row here. I know they're a huge underdog and no Wilson, we don't even know who's going to starting quarterback tonight's gonna be. But what's your feeling on the jets going into this game? Trying to keep that momentum going after what's between on the field and off the field's been a pretty good couple of weeks here for this team.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a. There's a lot of. There's there's some good things that. That's really happened over the past couple of weeks. I think the defense has played a lot better. I think there's been a little bit more cohesion on that side of the ball. And obviously, I think the biggest, you know, one of the biggest things is, you know, after the trade deadline, just the focus on giving Breece hall the ball more good things happen to you offensively when you, when you feed him the ball. He's very talented. The offensive line is pretty. It's getting better each and every week. Now the negative is he's going up against the best rush defense in the league in the New England Patriots. They are calling them stingy is, you know, is an understatement. They are very good. So that's going to be a challenge. And obviously the quarterback situation and throwing the ball to guys, you know, with no Garrett Wilson out there is obviously going to be a challenge. But listen, if you're, if you're the jets, you know, what you want to continue to do is you want to continue to build the culture, you want to continue to build this thing the right way. Go out there, you have nothing to lose. You're two and you're two and seven, man. Go out there, play to the best of your ability. Yeah, they might not win, but you want to continue to build good habits and put good tape out there moving forward.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, we were just a caller just brought this up and I thought it was a fair point, Damian, like if you're, if you're Aaron Glenn and you're building a little bit of mojo, at least over the last couple of games and the off the field moves, if you end up in a game where, let's say your defense is somehow playing well against this great Patriots offense, but the office just isn't generating anything with Fields, you think you'll be quick to pull the trigger and go to Tyrod to try to make something happen or is he going to be committed to Fields here? Because I don't know, man. The last couple of weeks, Fields has gone back to last week. Really, we saw the old Fields that was just not producing at all.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Yeah, I mean, that's what I would do. Like, if this game is competitive and offense isn't doing anything, I wouldn't even hesitate to put power out in there because listen, I've always said it's a couple things. Number one, it's not fair to the rest of the team. You know, you're going out there and, you know, guys are scratching, clawing, fighting, trying to get a win. But also you need to evaluate some players out there on offense. You know, here it is. You're probably going, you're going to have A.D. mitchell up for the first time. You know, that was the wide receiver from Indianapolis that was in the trade for Sauce. Okay. John Metro the third. You know, you know, Aaron Smith, all these, you know, all of these guys, these young guys, these unknowns on offense that you need to start getting, start evaluating these guys. You can't evaluate these guys if this quarterback keeps playing the way that he's playing. So if this game is Competitive. If it's close and it's not producing, then I would. I would not hesitate to take him out and put Tyrod Taylor in the game.

[Don Allen]

Is this Patriot team legit? I mean, could they come out of the conference? Can they win this division?

[Caller Damian Woody]

Oh, they can absolutely win this division. I mean, you know, Don, listen, I know people would talk about their schedule and the strength of schedule. You can only play who's on your schedule. That's number one. But, you know, outside of that, they do have quality wins against, you know, on the road at Buffalo and at Tampa. This team is legit. They're top 10 in both offense and defense. Their quarterback, Drake May, who has been. Who I've been talking about for weeks now, is an MVP candidate. And they can just beat you in a lot of different ways. They got a bunch of guys that, you know, no one's caught. No one. It's not like a AJ Brown type thing where, you know, guys just, you know, make a lot of noise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They.

[Caller Damian Woody]

They did have a bunch of unheard of unheralded guys. And I know they have stuff on Diggs, but on any given Sunday, a guy could just explode. Last week was Mack Hollins. You know, we. Prior could be, you know, k' Sean Booty, Stefan Diggs. So they got a bunch of guys that can. That can. That can go off and, And. And they're obviously well coached with Mike Vrabel and. And Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator.

[Don Allen]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Isn't it great? The Patriots are back. Love it. I know you love it, but for me, it's.

[Don Allen]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For us, not. This is tough.

[Alan Hahn]

This makes me sick. But, well.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Well, you know, you know, the thing that I said, I said this past week, you know, Buffalo had a stranglehold on this division for like, six years, and they don't have anything to show for it. Like, nothing. No super bowl appearances, nothing.

[Don Allen]

And now.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Now here it is. The Patriots are. Are back again. So that. That should be debilitating if you're a Buffalo Bills fan.

[Alan Hahn]

No, absolutely. You were a guy that was active in the nflpa, correct?

[Caller Damian Woody]

A little bit, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Okay. What do you think of the fact that the NFL now is filing this grievance against those annual team report cards where, you know, the union would have players grade different things about the player experience at different franchises and all. And, and, you know, the fact that they feel that's now against the CBA and they shouldn't be doing this. How do you feel about that?

[Caller Damian Woody]

I think it's crazy. I think the PA is doing owners a favor by doing this. I think this is one of the best things the PA decided to do because, you know, it just gives players an opportunity to kind of speak their mind and speak freely because it's anonymous, and just really tell the story about how. How the players feel about how the organization is ran on a myriad of levels. And listen, it's not shocking that, you know, some of these organizations who got bad grades are the ones that are the saltiest. But I will say this, like, be. I think because of some of these grades, it ignited change. Think about, like, all these new locker rooms and all these things that happen. That's because of the. That's because of these reports where these teams felt compelled, like, wait a minute, like, how can we compete for free agents? Or how do we, you know, want to get. Want to retain our guys if they feel a certain way about our organization? So, like I said, I don't know why the uproar, but you should be glad that the players are kind of letting you know how they truly feel about your situation.

[Don Allen]

All right, before I let you go, how engaged were you the other night? Nat. Islander Devil game?

[Caller Damian Woody]

Listen, I was. You know, the. The Devils are. The Devils are the real deal, but the Islanders, you know, the Islanders come. I saw them with the 32 win, and I just had to shout them out on X. And I always. I got a lot of things going on between the kids and obviously studying, you know, watching these games and. But always people of my Islanders, man, they're. I like. I like the direction they're going in. I like the direction. And so I want to make my way out to Long island and go check them out soon.

[Alan Hahn]

Game was a really good game.

[Don Allen]

If you did have the time to consume on television, what feed would you have watched the Islanders of the Devils?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, that's a great question. Burke or La.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Greca? Come on, come on.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

You know, Don, you.

[Caller Damian Woody]

You're my guy, so I gotta. I gotta. I gotta shout you out on that one.

[Don Allen]

Well, thank you so much.

[Alan Hahn]

I can't wait to tell Brendan about this.

[Don Allen]

Yeah. Well, listen, have fun, enjoy the game tonight, and we'll talk to you next week. All right?

[Caller Damian Woody]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Don Allen]

Don on a Rosenberg Take you up to 7 o'. Clock. Enn's coming up at 6. Let's get back to the busy, busy bus phones. Let's go to Brody in Heightstown. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Brody?

[Caller Damian Woody]

Guys, as always, love listening to you and, you know, always talking about sports, but who cares about what's going on anyway? When I saw the. The. The phone incident, I thought nothing of it. Alan made a joke out of it. We kept it moving that I had to call in after Danny from Centerpoint got hung up on by Don.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

So I was trying to figure out if it was because he was still.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Looking down at the phone or because he didn't want Alan to get the compliment.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

I'm nothing if I'm not honest.

[Caller Damian Woody]

I gotta call it out.

[Don Allen]

You know what's interesting? I completely forgot because he was a long call, and I wanted to try to squeeze in work up against the break. I forgotten. He said he wanted to give Alan the compliment. So please, by all means, call back, man. I want Alan to get that compliment. You must have forgotten about it, too. You didn't say anything. And you're one to tell us everything that's on your mind. So if you were upset about it, you would have said something, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Is it a problem that I. That I take off the filter here like I thought? No, we're supposed to do. Everybody always said, like, you know, you're not revealing enough about yourself. You got to show personality. All right, I'm just going to tell you what I'm thinking from now.

[Don Allen]

I love it. And Brody, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let it go, man.

[Don Allen]

So what was the name of that call? Absolutely. What was his name again? Brody.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Yeah, it was Daniel.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

I've been with you guys forever. I love you guys to death.

[Caller Damian Woody]

But, you know, Alan's the new one, and I'm here to support him, man. I'm.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

I. I learned him because of the case show, listening to ESPN radio, and now I can't get enough.

[Don Allen]

Danny and Centerport. Please call back. We want to hear the compliment for Alan. I was. Brody forgot about it. Yeah, I like to keep him moving, that's all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I understand.

[Don Allen]

And I was a little quick with the button because he was in the middle of talking, but. And you didn't feel like we were getting to the compliment anytime soon?

[Alan Hahn]

You had no time for that. You were like this guy, by the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way, you know, Danny. Danny. And Centerport is the one who truly launched into the massive attack against Danny from Long Island.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was the one who obliterated him last week.

[Alan Hahn]

He was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Danny from center for.

[Alan Hahn]

Was ready to actually physically throw. Go find him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Remember, he said now and now. Do we think it's coincidence that we haven't heard from Danny since?

[Don Allen]

And you called him out Friday, Monday, right?

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This was all Friday.

[Alan Hahn]

It was fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was all part of fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Friday, Friday.

[Don Allen]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Alan Hahn]

Because Halloween was tomorrow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tomorrow makes a full week. Because I.

[Don Allen]

It.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This was fraud. Friday. He called us Thursday.

[Alan Hahn]

Mm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Friday morning. He called the morning show.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Friday afternoon. We hit him on fraud Friday.

[Alan Hahn]

Haven't heard since.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Haven't heard. Now, I got on the air on Monday or Tuesday and I said I was feeling a little bit of guilt, snowflake, that I am. That maybe we went. Maybe. Watch yourself. Nice and easy.

[Alan Hahn]

I got it. No, no, sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That maybe. That maybe we went too hard. That maybe we went a little too hard on him, even though it was really the listeners went harder than we went. Although we took some shots as well.

[Don Allen]

And we weren't mad at the listeners at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now do we lose Danny? Has he called the morning show this week? Is he alive?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, maybe he's boycotting us. Boycott me. I boycott you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But we didn't. We. And by the way, do we ever even make a ruling? No, Don, you were supposed to come back Monday and rule about whether there was a Danny ban. A banny.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, we don't have a bannie because the. The.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It did. We didn't do it.

[Alan Hahn]

What's the. What's the sign? What do we have? It's called the. Are you the band caller?

[Don Allen]

Yeah. Anthony. What? Move the sign. We can say worst caller.

[Alan Hahn]

It's still Dave in Westchester, so Detroit.

[Don Allen]

I. You know what? I'll rule tomorrow because it'll be fraud alert Friday, and I'll have my rule.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he's had a one year.

[Alan Hahn]

He's had a one week punishment then.

[Don Allen]

But is he. We just have to find out if he's called any other shows. I have not heard him at all this week.

[Alan Hahn]

No, he might. He might say, I'm out. I'm out, you guys. I'm not calling you anymore. That's it. I'll call the other.

[Don Allen]

Make it easier.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God, but why should I still feel bad, though? It was a. It was a bad guy. Fraud move by him.

[Alan Hahn]

It was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I didn't. When I. When I got in the air the next day, I didn't call him out of his name. I didn't say horrible things about him.

[Don Allen]

Other people did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Other people said they wanted to physically assault him. Calm down.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. You know what you did? You just. You just sparked the flame that's all I did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All I did. You can't start a fire. You said, start a fire. Without a spark, this gun's for hire.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Even if it's just Danny in the.

[Kevin Clark]

Dark.

[Alan Hahn]

Waiting to see where you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't. We don't want him in the dark.

[Don Allen]

All I'll say is we started a spark, but it was very flammable.

[Alan Hahn]

It felt like Peter said, just stand up and stand down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, you know. You know who also set it off? Lonnie. Remember Lonnie from the. The company called it, started getting aggressive, and he was like, nobody wants to hear from you. Nobody cares. And we said, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Don Allen]

Lonnie needed to tone it down. We even said that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we did. We jumped in and said, all right, Lonnie. No one's saying, relax yourself.

[Alan Hahn]

So we all clear that we like Danny from Long Island?

[Don Allen]

Yeah, we don't want him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a. It was.

[Alan Hahn]

It just. You didn' went there about Ms. Hatton.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and all of it. Here's what I didn't like. Ms. Hatton could take a joke. I could take a joke. No big deal. What I didn't like was we've built this friendship, this quiet respect for one another. You know, we know we're not the exact same people, but we get along. We find the things that we do get along on, and we celebrate that with friendship, with camaraderie, fellowship, if you will. I didn't like that. He called up, made a joke that was a little. A little personal, took a little bit a of. And I said, hahaha. Okay. And then the next day he goes, I'm gonna go somewhere else and try again. He deserved to get slapped. That. You deserve. Pow, pow. You deserve a little.

[Caller Damian Woody]

Okay.

[Don Allen]

No, no, no. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I didn't meet. I didn't want to kill the guy.

[Don Allen]

But I would say that I would not ban him, especially since he hasn't called in a week.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That makes it easy. He banned us.

[Don Allen]

But. But Danny from Centerport is back. I apologize. I had forgotten you wanted to compliment Alan. The floor is your.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

Wow, that is a lot of pressure, guys. That's very nice of you.

[Alan Hahn]

Do you remember it or did you forget it? Yeah, if he forgot it, then it's not really a golf.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

No, no, I didn't forget it. It was the first thing I really wanted to say. Alan, listen, you know, you're my guy, and, you know I'm an avid Nick fan. I'm not a huge Knick fan, but, you know, I got it in my blood a little bit. But, you know, the end of the game the other night when you were. When you were interviewing Jalen Brunson at the end of the night, I gotta tell you, man, I. I stayed with it just because it was you interviewing it. And don't take it the wrong way, but, my man, you were shining like a diamond, man.

[Don Allen]

You.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

You really.

[Don Allen]

You were really.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

You were looking good. Your suit looked great. You look sharp. That you weren't. You weren't weighted by anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, I'm just.

[Don Allen]

He was saying, go ahead, go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You were just complimenting you.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

You were in the center of the court, you know, with everybody listening, and you.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Caller Chris Wanton]

No hiccups, no anything. You were just solid and looking really good, man. So God bless you. What you're doing. You're keeping yourself great. And. And I appreciate it, man. And listen, my last fired up with Danny from Long Island, I think he should be at least banned until the end of the football season when there's not much to talk about. Just my opinion, because I think he was really, really disrespectful in all different counts. When I said that to you guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That day, you made it very clear.

[Don Allen]

Take it under advisement.

[Alan Hahn]

And Danny, thank you. Yeah, that does mean a lot. In between the whole you suck is that was one person that says, you know what? You're not that bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was like, you looked good, you smelled good.

[Don Allen]

I don't remember. Unless he's got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, he was laying it in.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what's starting to happen now, though, with a lot of these on court interviews, especially, like, Jalen's six two. So I'm taller than him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And then I have company towns who's listed at 7ft, and we're eye to eye. And so it's become a thing where people are trying to guess how tall I am.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now. Let me ask you a question. In wrestling, if you were an announcer. Because in wrestling, you know, it's not exactly what we call the full truth all the time. We want star truth. We. Unless it's our truth, we. We wouldn't want nice. Like, you wouldn't want me towering over a talent. That would be. If there was. Let's say, I was interviewing Raymond.

[Alan Hahn]

Like the NBA should put a ban on anybody bigger than the players.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not saying that, but I'm saying, would you ever accidentally on purpose, just naturally sort of like, spread your legs a little bit and get a little lower?

[Alan Hahn]

No, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I'm saying? Spread your legs out to the side.

[Alan Hahn]

Maybe to get a little lower. Alan Hahn is a big dude.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? You don't want to make Jaylen look small.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I, I, that's the thing. I don't realize, you know, like, it's not you doing on purpose. I'm trying to just do an interview. You're on the courts after a game. But it is funny sometimes, though, how some of the reactions that people have, like our, our social media at MSG Networks, they, they said that the constant question we see is just how tall is this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is he taller than players on.

[Alan Hahn]

The team, and how come he didn't play in the NBA? How bad was he?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, bad enough to not make the mvp.

[Alan Hahn]

Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A normal human being. Now, real quick, guys, forgot to mention all week, I didn't tell you, on or off the air that I saw a New York knickerbocker at dinner the.

[Alan Hahn]

Other night in the wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In the wild? Yeah.

[Caller Damian Woody]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What I said flashbacks.

[Don Allen]

Please don't bring back in the wild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I'm not bringing back.

[Don Allen]

No, no, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The wild.

[Alan Hahn]

What's wrong with in the wild?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It got bad. It started.

[Alan Hahn]

I saw my cousin at the deli.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it started going crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you mean callers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. Yeah, they started going so. And we couldn't get away from.

[Alan Hahn]

We don't have to. To take in the wild car.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, but it started, Allen. It took the phones. We couldn't escape anymore. It all ended. That means it's a hit, by the.

[Alan Hahn]

Way, people wanted to keep hearing the Macarena.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you're not wrong. But then they were so bad. Anyways, I won't say where I was or anything else because I wouldn't want to disrespect them.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I saw Josh Hart in the wild. Big Josh Hart sighting, by the way. What a. Oh, no, I didn't talk to. That's it can't be a name drop. I didn't talk to him. No, I didn't talk to him. I didn't say hello, nothing.

[Alan Hahn]

And send him a bottle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I saw him get up and I said, that's a tall man. And then I went, it's Josh Hart. Handsome man, by the way.

[Don Allen]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then the other day when we were doing the, the photo shoot, the aforementioned photo shoot that Danny felt so strongly about while we were doing that, Larry Johnson walked by down the street.

[Alan Hahn]

LJ to you and me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Just walking on the street by himself and one of the five horses like lj and he threw up a little deuce. Kept walking.

[Don Allen]

You didn't say anything.

[Alan Hahn]

Just by himself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Didn't say a word. But he was one of the few. He's exactly of the Knicks era that my wife like got excited. She's like, oh my God, lj.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I mean, it's Larry Johnson.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Grand childhood. That's Grandma Ma, for God's sake. That's a big man, too.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes. And a great guy.

[Don Allen]

Yeah. Didn't we have him on?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We had him on. He was great.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Great stories.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don looks like he wants to say interesting and go to break. No.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's got that interesting.

[Don Allen]

I've envisioned interesting. What is? Who was your wife for Halloween again? Grandmama. You know, making out the whole idea. No, I'm not doing it in erotic. Well, just like how interesting it would be. Somebody dressed up as Grandmama. Somebody dressed up as.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why would they make out? How about just them in a picture?

[Alan Hahn]

Just. Yeah.

[Don Allen]

No, because how about a photo that's going to have it by another order of pontine. I think he meant poon. Ian is next. Goodbye.

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