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Peter Rosenberg
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Don LaGreca
That sounds like heaven to me.
Peter Rosenberg
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers, Peter.
Don LaGreca
And Don on 8 80, ESPN New York. We were just talking a lot about music, and then I see this in our text. This came over from Jacob that one night, one stage. Friday, July 18th. Billy Joel and Rod Stewart at Yankee Stadium.
Hmm.
Can I. Can I hit you with something, though?
I might agree with you? Go ahead.
I'm not interested in Billy Joel with Rod Stewart. Well, good.
I am. I'm a big fan of both. I'm way bigger a fan of Billy Joel than Rod, but I. And I've seen Rod Stewart at the Garden. I've seen Billy Joel at the Garden, and I would see both of them. Them together does nothing for me. And I got to be honest with you, them in a stadium does nothing for me. I don't. I don't think that music in particular plays at as well in the stadium.
That's a great.
Caller (Raph)
That's a.
Don LaGreca
Now I saw Paul McCartney at Yankee Stadium. Matter of fact, the first time I was in the new Yankee Stadium was for a Paul McCartney show. But the way Paul does it with the fireworks during Live and Let Die, it played for an outdoor stadium. I. I think I'd rather hear Billy at the Garden or in an arena. And same with Rod Stewart. So the fact that it's a Yankee Stadium does nothing for me. And the two of them together does nothing for me, even though I'm a fan of them separately.
And it's funny, at the time when Billy used to play with Elton John, I had no interest at that time in Elton John. And now I've come around to have a lot of Elton John songs that I like, and it has a little more interest, but I still never associated them closely. I just.
Now, this doesn't seem to mesh at all. But whatever. I'm sure it's a Yankee.
I'm sure they'll do just fine.
It's gonna work fine. Everything they touched her.
Let's talk to the people. Let's see. Ralph has been on hold forever and he wants to get in and talk a little Rangers. Let's go to Ralph on the island.
Hey, Ralph.
Caller (Raph)
It's a raft, guys. I appreciate.
Don LaGreca
Sorry. You know what? And guess what? Anthony spelled it right and that's just on me because why would I think Raph is a name?
But it's Raphael.
Caller (Raph)
Yes, sir.
Don LaGreca
All right, Raph, what do you got for us?
Caller (Raph)
All right, guys, first of all, thanks again and I never got to you guys on tmks. So I'm super happy that finally get through here and I hope to hear more, more of you guys. I love Han. I love the addition. Anyway, congratulations. Good job, Pete. I'm also a new newborn father to a daughter. I have some things that she's now, you know, growing up out of. If you ever.
Don LaGreca
Sweet man.
Caller (G)
Any.
Caller (Raph)
Some new, like basically new stuff.
Don LaGreca
How old is your daughter?
Caller (Raph)
Later? She's now nine months. But she was a preemie three months. So she's only developmentally six months. So I have all like some brand new newborn stuff.
Don LaGreca
How so? So just tell me it's your first child.
Caller (G)
Yes.
Don LaGreca
Just curious. Really quickly before we move on, just give me a 30 second assessment from an emotional standpoint, whether it be joy, excitement, fear, simply feeling how intense was the first from labor through the first few weeks.
Caller (Raph)
It was kind of crazy because she was preemie. So she was two months in the nicu and then when I finally got to her, she, she, she was like a teacup Yorkie that size.
Don LaGreca
Wow. How much did she weigh when she was born?
Caller (Raph)
Two pounds.
Don LaGreca
Oh, wow.
That's. My twins were four, so.
Yeah, my niece and nephew were four too. That's two is very tight. That's a different kind of situation. That's pretty scary stuff.
Caller (Raph)
Yeah, but it was, you know, it's, it's been kind of breathtaking. She doesn't necessarily live with me. She lives with her mom right now in North Carolina. But I've had her since like Christmas before then. So it's been really nice getting, you know, spend that, you know, full month with her and just watch her grow up and she start to stand. I taught her how to high five me during the Ranger games.
Don LaGreca
That's awesome, man. Well, congrats and happy for me and thank you for being sweet. I appreciate it. What did you want to say on the Rangers of it all?
Caller (Raph)
Yeah, so I heard yesterday, Allen and Don talking about how they think it's not a coaching issue, it's a roster issue. But I think, and I'm was still in the camp that we shouldn't have let go of Gerard Gallant because how do you, how do you fire a guy who goes to the ECF one year and then game seven of the first round against arrival and you lose like a tough game seven? Yeah, you were up to nothing, the whole bit. But I, I didn't think they should have fired him. At best, Laviolet was a lateral move. Yes, he's a good coach, but you know what it comes with. You know, he doesn't like playing the young talent and the Rangers were very young at the time. You know, you had the quote unquote kids line. And now with Zach Jones, I just feel like they're not playing with him because he's not trying to play the potential best roster. That's, that's my feeling on the matter. I don't necessarily think obviously we should fire another coach and get through another coach in the, in the tenure of Drury and the organization, but I don't think Globulet was the right move and I still think Gigi was the wrong fire.
Don LaGreca
Well, I mean that's all well and good. I mean there was a lot of issues with Gerard Gallant as far as. Listen, they could have very easily got bounced in the first round when they went to the conference final. If Sidney Crosby doesn't get hurt on that Jacob Truba head, they probably lose that series in five games and we're not batting an eye. And they listen, they beat Carolina. They always seem to be Carolina in the playoffs and they lost in the conference final. Peter Laviolette is too good of a coach to blame him. I mean he went to a Stanley cup final in Nashville, Philadelphia won a cup in Carolina. Turn the Islanders around. What will a new coach do? All right. You think Zach Jones playing or not playing is going to be that big of a difference maker? I agree with you. He probably deserves a little bit of a look more so than what he's getting right now. And I do feel bad for him. But is there a coach out there that's going to get more out of Zibanejad, more out of Kreider, make Vincent Trocheck into a top center rather than a third line center, which I think he really is. That's why I say it's a roster issue. I mean they've got a lot of really good players and certainly I think should be playing better than they are right now. But what would a new coach do? It's not like they haven't changed things, right? I mean, he benched Kreider. They end up losing five, nothing. He's changed lines around, he's changed defensive pairings around. I don't know what a new coach is going to come and do. That's why I say I think it's a roster issue.
Caller (Raph)
And I get you from that perspective because I, you know, I love Trocheck as a signing. I thought Troach was one of the best signings we made. I love him as a, you know, a locker room guy. I love him in the dot because we struggled mightily in the center dot before we picked up Trojek and then we started winning the face offs, right? And it looked like we were turning the leaf. I feel like even. Even dating back to last year when we went into Florida, first game against Florida, Rempe wasn't dressed. I understand that Rempe is not a great player, but what he does for the team in terms of morale boosting and what he does to their game, it elevated them all when he was activated for game two.
Don LaGreca
But, I mean, but he's got to be able to play more than five minutes. You see this? Listen, thank you for the phone call I get. I feel like I'm an anti Rempe guy. No, Peter, I don't want to go too deep into the weeds here, but one of their best lines in recent vintage has been the play of Carrick, Edstrom and Vici and Vesey played over 10 minutes in the game against Dallas the other night and I thought he played well. Now you want Matt Rempe. Well, Matt Rempe hasn't been able to play more than like five or eight minutes. He's committed bad penalties putting the Rangers in a tough spot. Like, so, yeah, he adds energy, but I mean, this is not the old days. I need to be able to roll four lines. I need to have guys that can play north of 10 minutes. And he hasn't proven he can do that again. This keeps. We keep C circling back to. It's an energy problem. They're not playing with enough energy. They're not. They're not playing well, but it's not an energy thing. So Reppy goes out there tonight and will squash a devil into the boards. Is that going to turn our season around?
It's a weird. It's almost like the Ranger fans. Don, I'm trying to think of the comparison to another sport where, like, we've seen this player show up and inject energy. But, like, really? Okay, I'm gonna go way back, so I apologize. It's only who popped into my brain.
Okay.
Do you remember how impactful in the championship years Vinnie Johnson was for the Pistons?
Mm.
The microwave.
Yeah.
And he'd come in and he'd be a. He'd be a bat out of hell and hit big buckets. And even though he wasn't always a big player, when he came in, he ignited a team and they won a championship and he was a p. They're acting as if there's this history with Rempe. Like when he shows up, everything changes and they all of a sudden just win games.
But their biggest problem is the fact that they had a killer power play last year that bailed them out five on five. They've got the 26th power play in the NHL. How is Matt Rempe going to help them on the power play? How is Matt Rempe going to help Zabanejad be Zabanejad, Kreider be Kreider. I get he adds energy and he'll come up with a big hit. And if you believe the Rangers issues are a lack of energy, well, then I guess Matt Rempe is the secret sauce. I don't think it's a lack of energy. I think it's a lack of finish. I think it's a lack of execution.
And maybe a lack of talent.
Well, yeah, or maybe overrating what the talent is. I mean, I look at the problems with his team and I just don't see. I don't really see where Matt Rempe is going to solve it, but we'll see tonight. And I guarantee if they win and if he plays five minutes and has a big hit, they'll talk about him being the reason. Well, he'll have an opportunity. Let's see he doesn't get suspended again.
All right, we hit Rangers. Let's hit Knicks for a second as well. Of course, they get a much needed win last night, but when they attempted to go to bench up 25. So maybe you could arrest your starters and cruise to an easy win against a bad Toronto team. Instead, their bench gives up the lead. Brunson has to come in at the end of the game, so you get the win, but it really wasn't super impressive. Javi and Queens. What do you got, buddy?
Caller (Javi)
Hey, what's up, guys? Like, honestly, truly, very, very great show today. Like, I like all the topics that you guys are touching. And before I get into the mix, Don, you're 100% right. About LA and, like, moving the game. Not to mention, if you've ever watched a game at SoFi, like, those two teams, the Chargers and the Rams, they don't have, like, a rabid fan base. Like, there's probably going to be more Minnesota fans there anyway.
Don LaGreca
And we said that.
Yeah, sure, yeah.
Caller (Javi)
And, you know, like, just, you know, put. Put safety over profits. Like, just, you know, show that you care a little bit. And also, I just want to, like, with the music stuff that you guys are talking about, I think Peter will get this reference. You guys remind me of the Judgment Night soundtrack, Right? Like that mashup of Donna.
Don LaGreca
My favorite soundtrack albums of all time. We talked about this years ago, Peter. I'm glad you brought that. I gotta. I gotta dig that back out, man.
Little helmet.
Oh, it's so good that, that it's. It's. It's an okay movie, but the soundtrack blows the movie away.
Caller (Javi)
That's you guys to a T. But one other song that we're not talking about is the Wolf Pack song. What Happened, you know, shout out to Alan. I hope him and his family are good, but the Wolf pack is back in town. I hope you guys play.
Don LaGreca
But the wolf pack.
The wolf pack.
The wolf Pack only made sense in the context of the Michael K Show. You see what I'm saying? Because, like, the wolf. I hear what you're saying. Like, Don and I now are a faction on our own known as the Wolf Pack. And maybe at some point, in the right moment, if this were wrestling terms, the Wolf Pack would return. But at this moment, when we're all in on the new trio, you're not. The Wolf pack's kind of dead right now. You see what I'm saying?
Caller (Javi)
I'm just. I'm just trying to give myself a little shine because I don't know if you remember, I did win point God, for suggesting that to you guys.
Don LaGreca
Well, it was a great.
It was a great listen. It was. It was an absolute incredible suggestion. So don't feel bad about that.
Caller (Javi)
Thank you. Appreciate it, guys. So listen, with the Knicks and, you know, again, hoping Allen is good, but luckily because Alan's not here, I think we can have a slightly different conversation about the Knicks. Let's talk about sleepy Tom Bobo. The last time that I spoke with Alan, it seemed like we had a disagreement. But I am a big sleepy Tom Bobo guy. I believe in him. Even when you saw last night, right when they went to the bench at the very end of the game, they look terrible. Like, they squat like they still won by 12, but like it did not look good with those guys out there for the last three minutes. And I know that it's garbage time and that's what it is. But like, you know who doesn't complain about the minutes? The players.
Caller (G)
Right.
Caller (Javi)
Who complains? It's these job ronies that are throwing into their wastepaper baskets from their desks that know nothing about basketball that complain about the minutes. Right. No one on the team complains about it. So there's no complaint from the players. You know, let Tom do his thing. Like Tom, Tom is worried about winning games. He's not worried about making friends. And one little thing about the Knicks that I want to point out, looking at the last two games, right. A couple of weeks ago, people were talking about how Kat is a MVP candidate. I thought that was a little bit of a stretch. But looking at these last two games, especially that Orlando game, Cat is a legitimate MVP candidate. If he misses significant amount of time on this team, it's going to hurt. It would hurt this team more than any other player at this point of the season. So incredibly grateful to Kat, incredibly grateful for Tom and obviously incredibly grateful.
Don LaGreca
And Cat defended Kat. Basically had the same opinion he did. Like all these people got to get off coaches back. I get it. And even Mike Breen was on with K yesterday about, hey, well, the players want to play, but sometimes the players don't know what's best for them. And last night could have been an opportunity where you could have gotten a little bit more rest. I'm not going to get crazy. Brunson played well, like 35 minutes. Not a big deal. But you're getting nothing from your going to be an issue.
But I would have loved to have had him just sit the rest of the fourth quarter because that would have been good. That's the thing about resting. It's no longer really getting the rest.
When you hop back up and come back in and. But he refuses to want to lose games. But for that caller. We've talked about this before. Holy Diver. I'm a survivor. Feeling like the Nero in Taxi Driver with Jodie Foster and Harvey Keitel. Looks like I'm walking through a living hell. Just another victim. Just another victim, kid. Just another victim.
It's like. It's almost like a haiku in here. Garth, I think that was a haiku. Let's go to Moose in Jamaica. What up, Moose?
Caller (Moose)
What's good, fellas?
Don LaGreca
How are we?
Caller (Moose)
Good evening.
Don LaGreca
It's all good.
Caller (Moose)
I hear that. That's what's up. So yeah, I have a bonus Nick point after my timely Giants conversation with Don Peter, feel free to jump in. Considering the situation, the status quo, the outside looking in depending on the Penn State quarterback. Don, do you feel comfortable with the Giants selecting a quarterback that may fall to them if the top two picks select Travis Hunter or Trey with another team that wants somebody other than a quarterback? Depending on obviously if Shane and Dable.
Don LaGreca
Like either quarterback if they like them.
Like like here's the thing my opinion doesn't matter. If they love one of the quarterbacks then take them. But when my my original point was if you're taking a quarterback then don't you have to lock into Shane and Dable beyond next year because if they have a terrible season you can't fire them because they're not going to have that good young quarterback now a second coaching staff to deal that that's the problem. So I have no problem taking a quarterback as long as they love the quarterback.
Caller (Moose)
You have to trust the process. John Mara and John Marisink show progress, show that the players are developing. We're winning close games, we're competing. We're not getting our doors blown off. I understand it's very frustrating as a fan to constantly tune into red. Don't worry about my bets and that might tweet my team showing that they.
Don LaGreca
Have but just think about the how hypocritical. I know that's a strong word John Mara was we haven't given this enough conversation guys. He believes in this process. He believes in Shane and Dable but they better show progress next year. So isn't that an issue? Like are you really on board? Because I got news for you man. I mean we're both huge Giant fans. Are they going to be good next year? Are they going to be more than a five or six win team next year? So he said I better be sitting here next year and we better be better. Well then there is pressure to win which means there's a possibility that this regime you believe in so much you're going to blow it up next year and you're going to do that after you draft a quarterback. That would be wrong. That's why I said give the contract extension. People were misunderstanding me on social media. Why would you give a contract extension? They have two more years left. But if you draft a quarterback in year four you can't then in year five go in with a lame duck situation or fire your regime going into the second year of your quarterback Peter, then you would have to give them a Contract extension. But you heard John Maris say I better see progress. What's their record going to be next year? With the Chiefs coming to town and the packers coming to town and the Vikings coming to town, what's their record going to be?
Yeah, how much improvement are you actually reasonably getting next year? By the way, a reminder to everyone, you know, we have coming on the show at 5:30, David Wright.
His number's being retired this summer.
The way you said that was so strong.
Well, shouldn't it be strong now? We have him on that.
Well, and it's a strong name in general, isn't it?
Well, when your name is right, it can't be wrong.
I love what you've done there. I love what you've done.
You know, I had a humbled moment when he got called up by the Mets. We had him on the K show. Michael was out probably at a Yankee game or it was in the summer, and I interviewed him. And now he's gone through his entire Met career and now having his number retired and I'm still in the same time slot. I mean, I've been here forever.
That is crazy, man. Like. No, I say this respectfully. You are old.
That's why when the guy, I didn't get back to him. But it's still worth saying a guy on Twitter obviously didn't like the show. I give this show two months.
How much you want to bet real quick. If I answer a certain caller right now, real quick, how many different little clicks and smashes of the phone do you think we'll hear?
Like you read about?
How many? How many you think, though? Guess.
Caller (G)
Four.
Don LaGreca
Four.
I'm going three. Let's go. Hey, Richard.
Caller (Richard)
Hi, Don. Hi, Peter. Are you doing the pregame tonight or you're doing the.
Don LaGreca
I'm doing the pregame.
Caller (Richard)
Beautiful. Big game. Another playoff game. I love it. Don, you're 100% right. With the football game, every ounce of energy of everybody in Los Angeles should be toward the fire. There's no way they can play a football game. You know, it reminds me much lower, lesser level kind of thing, But I remember 12 and a half years ago, Hurricane Sandy, Storm Sandy, and it was right before the marathon. And Mayor Bloomberg wouldn't cancel the marathon. And half of New York City from 42nd street and below were flooded in water. I had friends who were dentists. Their offices could not operate because there was water in the basement. They couldn't run their practices for two weeks. And a lot of people. There were no subways down lower Manhattan. It was A mess. And Bloomberg would not cancel the marathon until the Thursday before, when people from Europe and Asia and South America were all here. It was a mess. He ended up eventually canceling the marathon. But, you know, it's just like you said, Don, just do it. Now they've done it for other things, for ice storms and things. It's, you know, just play somewhere else. There's nothing else you can do about it. To basketball, fellas. This is no knock on Thibodeau, but that game last night, Cleveland and Oklahoma City, that was a typical NBA playoff game. Now, Cleveland had 85 points off the bench. Oklahoma City had 71 points off the bench. There hasn't been a Knick game or a Knick team that's done that, I don't think, in the last two or three years. They just don't get scoring off their bench. Now, that's not Thibodeau's fault. He probably just doesn't have the horses. So that's all I can say about that. And wouldn't it be great, fellas? By the way, Cleveland and Oklahoma are playing next week. Wouldn't it be good around Martin Luther King Day? Wouldn't it be great? Five months after Martin Luther King Day, Father's Day, we have a game, Oklahoma City, Cleveland, during the NBA Finals off series. So that would be great. It would become. For. It would come full circle. That was in a great game yesterday. Thanks, fellas. Always a pleasure.
Don LaGreca
You know, Cleveland keeps the winning streak a lot. I don't. I don't think both of those teams are going to go. I know they're both having great regular seasons.
It's an incredible regular season, but it's not going to happen.
I don't.
I'd bet anything in one of them happening would be cool. I got to tell you, man, I do love that Cleveland crowd. They are so in love with this team.
It's pretty cool, LeBron. It's really cool.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don LaGreca
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Peter Rosenberg
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Don LaGreca
It's Don Hahn and Rosenberg, and this is a very, very cool moment, especially for you. Don, I know you're a huge fan of this, man. It's going down on July 19th at Citi Field. David Wright's number five will be retired by the New York Metropolitans. Well deserved. And he joins us right now. David, what's up, man? It's Peter and Don. How you doing?
Caller (G)
What's going on, guys? Thank you for the intro. Much appreciated.
Don LaGreca
First and foremost, man, how are you and your family doing and your loved ones? I know you're relatively close to all of what's happening in Southern California right now. So are you guys all right? And how's everyone doing?
Caller (G)
Yes, you know, thanks for asking. I married a Southern California girl, so this is home for us now. So, yeah, it's, It's. We're fortunate to be outside of that kind of danger area. But, you know, we're reminded every morning with the ashes and the smell, and obviously we can see the fire in the distance. So had a lot of friends relocated, evacuated. Some of them lost their homes. So certainly thoughts and prayers to those families that are going through that and just as importantly, the firefighters and first responders that are braving those elements up there to try to keep us safe.
Don LaGreca
Well, I'm so glad you're doing okay, and we're thinking about you. And we're also thinking about what should be a great day on July 19th when your number five is going to be up there with Doc and Darrell and Piazza and Seaver. I mean, just how mind blowing is it that you're going to get honored in that way?
Caller (G)
Mind blowing is not even the word for it. Like, it's. It is a. You know, I've mentioned it before. I was a bit of a prankster when I played. I like to play a little. Some practical jokes on some guys. So I have a feeling that this is like one big practical joke. That it's like, I'm gonna get there on July 19th and everybody be laughing at me, pointing that finger in my face and saying, you know, psych. So it's. It's that kind of moment where it's. It truly is so unbelievable. Unbelievable and unimaginable that, you know, I'd be lying if I said that this was some sort of dream come true, because this never even crossed my mind, you know, growing up as a kid in Virginia, you know, hitting wiffle balls with my father and grandfather in the backyard. You know, to say that I had a chance to go play high school and college baseball would have been like, okay, I'm all in on that. But to be able to be drafted by my favorite team, developed by my favorite team you mentioned, you know, Doc and Darrell and Keith. I mean, some of these guys that I remember my dad rooting for when I was a kid, and now to have my number next to theirs is just a truly. Is a pinch me incredible moment.
Don LaGreca
And you look back at your career, what are. When you think back to it, what are some of the things that pop into your head?
Caller (G)
Man, you know, it's. It's. It's kind of funny because that's how you know you're getting old, is when you can start, like, reminiscing about the good old days. You know, I just had lunch out here in California with our bullpen catcher who was the best man at my wedding. And, you know, we catch ourselves, like, doing what we thought the old guys did when. When I was there. It's like talking about how, you know, great things used to be and, you know, telling these old stories and, you know, we started catching ourselves doing that. But, you know, by far my favorite baseball memory in a Mets uniform was playing in the World Series in 2015. It didn't end the way that we wanted it to, but, you know, to be able to represent National League Baseball in the World Series for me was a dream come true. I wish we could have finished it off. But certainly, you know, that Series, although it didn't go great, you know, the one win that we had was certainly the highlight of my career.
Don LaGreca
And as a Met fan, David, and I'm kind of blown away as an elder statesman. I remember when the Mets called you up, having you on this show and then seeing your entire career, and now, you know, you retire and have your number retired and all that. The one that pops to me, just feeling. And I know it didn't work out, but they're not only playing the World Series, but the homer in it. And I thought that was so special. I was at the game when it happened, and because I thought you deserved to have that moment. You probably don't think that way, but, like, as a Met fan, seeing everything that you had gone through, especially towards the end of your career, I really thought you deserved that moment to hit that home run.
Caller (G)
I appreciate that. I really do. You know, for me, the writing was on the wall. Like, I knew deep down inside that, you know, that was kind of the beginning of the end for me. You Know, so typically when you're in the moment, especially, you know, the playoffs and in this particular moment, the World Series, you don't get caught up in, you know, the moment. You know, you kind of, you know, you stick to the game plan. You know, every pitch, your focus. When I hit that home run, running around the bases are such a different feeling. It was. I allowed myself for a split second to kind of look around and soak it in because, you know, I truly thought that this is most likely or probably, you know, going to be, you know, my last opportunity to do something this cool. You know, as an athlete, sometimes it takes a while for your body to align with your mind and your heart. My mind and my heart kept wanting to give it a go and try it. My body was just yelling, no more. No more. So, you know, I kind of knew that the writing was on the wall at that point, so I allowed myself to soak it in running back to the dugout, which I never do. I pointed up to my family and friends and some fans that, you know, were yelling and screaming, and it just. I really got a chance to soak in that moment. And that. That was the coolest by far moment of my career.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, there had to be a lot of times during that last season and the last couple of years there, David, when the possibility of you getting to hit a home run in the World Series or play in a World Series was. Was not on the table. And I just always remember thinking how cool it was that you got to play that part of it and have that moment. Does it. Does it seem surreal when you think about the fact that last year the names we saw go up there at Citi Field were Darrell and Doc. That you would be next?
Caller (G)
No, because again, you know, it's like, I don't know, I've just never been the type of. And maybe it's, you know, being raised by a police officer and, you know, my mom was our school bus driver and then became a teacher's assistant at the elementary school. Maybe it was just like that blue collar attitude where you just don't. You never think of those types of things that happens to, you know, the really good players, and that happens to, you know, people that's. People that's deserving. It doesn't happen to, you know, it's not going to happen to me, you know, but to be able to. I mean, I can remember as a kid trying to emulate Daryl in the backyard with that big leg kick and, you know, trying to hit the. I mean, it's just, it's so surreal to me that again, you know, my dad's a police officer. Our AAA team was in Norfolk, Virginia, where I grew up. He'd take us to the games and there were a lot of off duty police officers that ran security, did some security for some extra money during the games and we'd meet some of the players. I thought it was the coolest thing ever to turn on the TV next week and see those players that I met playing for the New York Mets and then to be drafted by the team and Hojo and Gary Carter and Tim Toffel and Daryl's around, Doc's around, Keith's around. I mean, it's just like, it's this, like cool, you know, just moment where it's like this can't be real. And now to do this, it's just the cherry on top of something that I just never expected and I couldn't be more humbled and grateful for, you.
Don LaGreca
Know, talking to David wright. His number five will be retired by the Mets on July 19th against the Reds. It's a 410 start. You know, you talk about Doc and Daryl and for met fans of a certain age, it's. Right. And Reyes and there was a connection with you two. I mean, how, how much did you feel it when you were coming up, getting a chance to play alongside him?
Caller (G)
Well, that's what some of the, you know, we talked about my coolest memories, you know, quickly. But, you know, some of my fondest, you know, memories and coolest rivalries were against the Phillies. And it wasn't necessarily part of it was because of the New York Philadelphia rivalry and the proximity and the fans dislike each other. But a lot of it also had to do with, you know, Jose Reyes and I verse Chase Utley and Ryan Howard and Shane Victorino and Cole Hamills and, you know, and Jimmy Rollins. And it's because we stayed kind of together as a unit for a number of years. And I think that's something that the game's missing a little bit. But it's something that, yeah, like we felt like, you know, Jose and I can remember we were in the minor leagues. We had a minor league director named Guy Conti, who I love to death, called Reyes and I into the office and we couldn't have been more than 18, 19 years old. And he looked us in the face and told us that we were going to be the future of the left side of the infield New York. And we kind of looked at each other and we were holding and we were confident, maybe even a little cocky, 18, 19 year olds, but we never thought that that would come to fruition where we get a chance to do, you know, what we did. But it was a really neat feeling and even cooler that he got a chance to, we got a chance to do it together for our last games in New York in 2018.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, it certainly didn't end the way you wanted to with the back. So like what's the emotion of how the career ended? Is it, is it negative, is it bitter, is it disappointing? Like, how would you describe how the end of your career was with the, with the back?
Caller (G)
I mean, I think it's a number of different emotions. Yeah, I mean, I think every athlete, you know, wants to go out on their own terms and I'm no different. And those weren't the terms that I wanted to go out on. But at the same time I find great comfort in knowing that when I think about my career, I think about the work that that went into my career. You know, I mentioned the blue collar attitude that I truly felt like I attained my maximum level or my ceiling of what my God given abilities were like I did. I don't sit back and say, you know, if I had just worked a little harder, maybe I would have been a better player or if I just would have put in a little more time, maybe I could have done this. Now there's regrets as far as like, man, I wish I wouldn't have got hurt or I wish I wouldn't, you know, swung at this pitch or I wish I wouldn't have struck out in this big situation. But there's never been a thought that it's like, you know, this regret of I didn't put the right work in to attain a certain level because I truly think that I maximize my potential on the baseball field.
Don LaGreca
About the current Mets, obviously a lot of exciting stuff happening in Queens right now and certainly we'll see what Juan Soto looks like in blue and orange next year. But with the players we have seen in Francisco Lindor, you have a very special player there. But I wanted to get to Pete Alonso and obviously we're going to find out what exactly happens with Pete moving forward. What have you thought about him as a New York met and do you have any thoughts on his future and would you like to see him continue to be a New York method?
Caller (G)
Of course. I mean, I think that, and I think that that's a good question specifically for me because, you know, I've said it a number of times, I Bled blue and orange. You know, I love that organization. I love the city. I grew up a Mets fan, you know, so it was an honor and a privilege for me to put that uniform on every day. And I never lost sight of that. And I think that, you know, also, you know, referring back to the Phillies Mets rivalry, is that putting on that uniform when you're drafted, developed, given your first opportunity by that team means more. It certainly did for me. You know, you pound your chest. You take a lot of pride in putting that uniform on and almost thanking the organization for giving you that opportunity. So I hope Pete takes that into account. And I never ever fault a player for, you know, trying to maximize their earning potential. I mean, I think all of us do that, you know, at some point in life. But, you know, with that being said, I think sometimes free agents, and I'm not specifically talking about Pete, I'm talking about free agents in general tend to think that the grass is greener when ultimately, you know, there's something to be said for loyalty. And that works both ways. But I took a lot of pride in putting that UFO on because of my history with the organization in the city. And I think that that should be taken more into account with, with free agents these days because I think that, you know, fan base, fan bases in general love to rally around their homegrown guys. And Pete certainly one of those.
Don LaGreca
Have you thought about your speech yet or is it too soon?
Caller (G)
No, way too soon. You know, the last time they gave me a microphone was after my last game. And I'm one of those guys that better when you just like shove a microphone in front of my face and say talk as opposed to thinking about something. Because you know, that game, it was like 10 hours long, we went to extra innings and I out thought I out funk myself. So I kept going back to the clubhouse and like jotting a few notes down and coming back out on the bench watching the game, going back to the clubhouse. And by the end of it, I didn't want to read anything, but by the, my, the speech, all I could think about was how much I love this place. And I kept saying like love about a million times and I don't think it went as well as I could have had it go. So I think I'm going to wait until maybe the very end, you know, right when it kind of hits me, you know, jot some things down and try to put together some, some better sentences than I did after my last game.
Don LaGreca
Now what is this about you being from Virginia and Hating on the Washington football team. Pete. David, this is upsetting to me.
Caller (G)
Now. Please, please, please forgive me if I call them their previous name because I grew up in the area.
Don LaGreca
Fine. We're talking past tense. You're good.
Caller (G)
Okay, so, I mean, it's. It's. All my friends were Redskins fans, so, you know, like, I dislike them because all my friends like them. I was, like, kind of a hater, and if I didn't really have a team, but I knew I disliked them because all my friends did. And I'd love to go to school the next day and rub it in their face that they lost, but, I mean, there's a lot of things to like with that team now. But I still can't really pull myself to root for them because I got to know Eli and Strahan when I was in New York and I became a Giants fan. So, you know, that would go against, you know, my loyalty towards New York that we just discussed. If I started, you know.
Don LaGreca
No, you can't go. Well, we don't. I'll be honest, David. We don't want you back now. We don't need you anymore.
You know, we got.
Listen, we.
Caller (G)
I think you're gonna be. I think you're gonna be in the minority up in New York if you're pulling for.
Don LaGreca
Oh, I very much am. But. No, listen, we got our own number five these days who's doing. Doing pretty well.
I know.
Caller (G)
He's pretty. He's pretty good. He's pretty good.
Don LaGreca
I do appreciate you admit that you were hating because at the time, you and I, around the same age, at the time that you were a kid in that area. Yes, there was. We were pretty good. So there was actually something to. To hate on back then. David, thank you so much for making time for this. We're so stoked for you getting this honor. Everyone knows you deserved it. You were always so loved in this city. Loved by Mets fans, respected by Yankee fans. Everybody knows you're the man. So thanks for carving out some time for us.
Thanks, buddy.
Caller (G)
Guys, really appreciate the kind words and congratulations and thanks for having me on.
Don LaGreca
All right, take care, man. You too.
All right, so, July 19th, Redsintown410 start number five is going to join some pretty, pretty exclusive company. And it's a well deserved.
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Don LaGreca
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Yeah, you're listening to a Driving Home.
Where do you lean? Notre Dame? Penn State, naturally. The thing is, I don't mean picking a winner. Who do you naturally pull for more?
Well, growing up, my dad was a big Notre Dame fan. Had to be, you know, being a Catholic and all. I just think the Penn State story is amazing, but I probably lean towards rooting for Notre Dame, I find myself, but I don't know which way that's going to break. Penn State hasn't won a big game in a while and certainly hasn't had that tough a trip here with SMU and Boise State on their way to take on Notre Dame So I think Notre Dame is going to win the game, but I think it's going to be fun. I think it's going to be a classic.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this. And as I said earlier, I think this is a pretty cool example. When you put together the College Football Playoff and we started getting towards a more representative solution for picking a best team in college football. This is exactly what you were hoping for. Semifinal games like this, you get like this awesome. Sort of. I know. I know Notre Dame's in Indiana, but Don, sort of an east coast feeling final. A semifinal on one side, because Notre.
Dame, they call it the subway alumni. There's a lot of fans in this area of Notre Dame. You know, Penn State's not that far away. Again, it's a pretty good story. I thought they were done after the Sandusky scandal, and now people are like.
What'S the Sandusky scandal?
Well, listen, it was. He got convicted in 2012. So the scandal really goes back almost a decade ago. And so it's a long, long time ago. And they were able to get up from it. Frankel's done a good job there. I just don't. I think Notre Dame is going to win, and then, you know, is it. I think Ohio State will win tomorrow, and then we'll see what happens.
I do have to say, and I know no one wants to talk about this today of all days, but when you say the name Jerry Sandusky, literally, when I'm reminded of it, it's like the word scandal. And I know you don't mean anything by this. It's like the word scandal isn't even enough. I mean, it's unbelievable. To your point, it was such a horrific thing that happened that I sort of thought the same thing. I'm like, somehow this incredible history and legacy, you know, it's gonna be dead. And now they're back.
Well, because it. It was. It was nowhere before Paterno got there. And then obviously, the Sandusky things happen. He's gone, Paterno dies, and you figure, all right, well, they're done. I mean, who's going to go there? Who's going to want to coach there? How are they going to be able to get up from it? And they have. And I just. I think Notre Dame is going to win the game, and then we'll see. But this is what you want. You want to try to get the best teams in the best possible situation. And this is day one of what should be five terrific days of football you got two playoff games in college football. And then once we hit Saturday, Saturday, Sunday, and somewhere on Monday, either Arizona or la, we're going to have some playoffs.
It's football. It's crazy. Now, yesterday on the show, we talked about this. We've been getting some submissions. We're hoping to get some more submissions for potential theme songs, or even if it's not the theme song, we play every day songs to represent the show.
And I loved yesterday's. And you were out on it.
Well, here's. Here's a taste.
I do like this part. Die hot hen rose green eyed the.
Diamond hoops the pucks all five boroughs gonna know what's up. Don and Han, that's New York's own Rosenberg radio's on the phone. I like the bass line.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of things there. Very positive. It's got a little bit. It's got a hook.
Well, that's a big thing then. That's a big thing. Unless you're a Fish fan. You love a hook. Everyone. Everyone loves a hook, right? That's what you need. Now, Doug B. Who made the record, is on the line. Hey, Doug.
Oh, good. Hey, Doug. Thank you, man. That's good stuff.
Caller (Raph)
Gentlemen, how's it going? Thanks so much for playing my record yesterday. Means a lot to me. I'm a huge fan of both of you guys. Peter and Don and Alan, of course. So I appreciate you guys so much now.
Don LaGreca
Thank you, man. We appreciate that as well. And thought you did a great job. I was critical of a couple of things. Now, Alan, was it Alan or Don or both of you guys who thought that when he said rosenberg radio is on the phone, that he meant looking at my phone?
I don't. I didn't think that. Alan did.
Now.
I know.
I'll tell him Now, Doug, did you mean that I'm, like, on my phone not paying attention? Or do you mean, like, I'm. You can talk to me on the phone.
Caller (Raph)
First of all, I think it's tremendous that the guys even had that interpretation of that line, because my original intent was, it's cool that you can call Peter, because it's like, you have Don, who's New York hockey, you have Allen, who is New York basketball, and you have Rosenberg, who is New York radio. And the best thing about ESPN Radio is that you guys are accessible, like, to the fans. We can talk to you, we can interact with you. So my whole thing was, you can call Rosenberg Radio. I mean, he's a big deal. WWE Hot 97. All these different things. You can talk to the man.
Don LaGreca
There you go.
Caller (Raph)
This interpretation is actually funnier, I think, because. Very well, while you're on the air.
Don LaGreca
Now, this is not the first thing that you have sent to this show. Here's something from here.
We got it.
You ask me questions, I answer. I ask you questions.
You say, dawn.
Dawn. Dawn. Dawn.
Caller (G)
Dawn.
Don LaGreca
Dawn. Dawn. Dawn. Dawn. Dawn. It's good.
It's good stuff, Doug. This is really, really good stuff, man. We appreciate you, dude.
Caller (Raph)
Oh, it's fantastic. And. And listen, how. How valid is Don in the metal community? He made a Diamond Head reference on the air today. I mean, it's tremendous.
Caller (G)
It's.
Caller (Raph)
It's great. And the new show is great. Whatever capacity you guys want to use my material. Let's talk about it. It's fantastic. And yeah, you know, you guys are.
Don LaGreca
So. Are you in a band?
Caller (Raph)
I'm in several bands. I'm a professional bass player in New York City. I'm playing tonight, as a matter of fact, and this is what I do. And I also. I create a new song for every Knicks game.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, I saw that.
Caller (Raph)
Yeah, Every day cover because, you know, we played the Raptors, whatever. So I'm a huge Knicks fan, so I kind of summarize the game in about 40 seconds or less.
Don LaGreca
Well, promote yourself. Where's your gig tonight?
Caller (Raph)
My gig is at Haswell greens in Midtown. 52nd Street, 240 52nd street and, yeah, I'm there every Thursday with my band. Big, woozy band. You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram @douglust.d u g L U S T I appreciate you guys.
Caller (G)
Just, it's.
Caller (Raph)
This is fantastic. Can I tell a quick story about Alan before I go?
Don LaGreca
All right, quicks. We're behind it, but go ahead.
Caller (Raph)
Gotcha. Got you. So when I had my first kid in 2019, it was Peter. This is something you. For you to look forward to. It was a little rough going. It's to be getting very tired. So I would take my daughter out for walks at Prospect park, and I would listen to Han Solo because she was doing the solo thing back then. Yeah, I DM on Instagram just to say, hey, man, your. Your podcast gives me a little bit of. Of solace and peace through. Through a tough time. I appreciate you so much. And he wrote me back saying, hey, it's the best thing you'll ever do having a kid.
Caller (G)
You know, he.
Caller (Raph)
He hit me back within a couple hours. And that. That made me ESPN radio for life. So I just want to say awesome. Thank you guys so much.
Don LaGreca
Oh, that's good.
Caller (Raph)
Have an awesome night.
Don LaGreca
You got it, buddy.
Caller (G)
Congratulations, Peter.
Don LaGreca
Thanks, man. Appreciate you. Doug. B uglust D U G L U.
Peter Rosenberg
S T thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Don LaGreca
I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know.
It's good.
Peter Rosenberg
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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 3: David Wright Joins the Show
Release Date: January 9, 2025
The episode kicks off with Don LaGreca and Peter Rosenberg delving into the upcoming concert featuring Billy Joel and Rod Stewart at Yankee Stadium on July 18th. Don expresses mixed feelings about the pairing, stating, "I'm way bigger a fan of Billy Joel than Rod, but I... Them together does nothing for me" (01:08). He elaborates on his preference for experiencing these artists in more intimate venues, like the Garden or arena settings, rather than a sprawling stadium environment. Don reminisces about attending Paul McCartney's show at the same stadium, highlighting how McCartney's performance was enhanced by the venue's outdoor acoustics, unlike what he anticipates for Joel and Stewart.
Caller Raph initiates a deep dive into the New York Rangers' recent coaching decisions, particularly questioning the firing of Gerard Gallant. He argues, "I didn't think they should have fired him. At best, Laviolette was a lateral move" (04:33), expressing dissatisfaction with the management's direction. Raph contends that the core issue lies within the Rangers' roster rather than coaching strategies, emphasizing that talented players like Zibanejad and Kreider are not being optimally utilized.
Don LaGreca counters by aligning with Raph's perspective, acknowledging that the roster possesses substantial talent but hasn't translated it effectively on the ice. He mentions, "They have a lot of really good players and certainly I think should be playing better than they are right now" (05:59). The discussion further touches on specific players like Matt Rempe, where Don critiques Rempe's limited playtime and his inability to consistently contribute beyond short shifts, ultimately questioning whether such additions can genuinely rectify the Rangers' performance issues.
Caller Javi shifts the focus to the New York Knicks, commending the team’s recent victory while critiquing the bench performance. He points out, "instead, their bench gives up the lead... it really wasn't super impressive" (10:02). The conversation explores the balance between resting starters and maintaining game momentum, with Don lamenting missed opportunities for strategic player rotations to secure wins more convincingly.
The hosts also discuss player contributions, highlighting how certain bench players have either bolstered the team or failed to meet expectations, impacting the Knicks' overall performance dynamics.
Throughout the episode, the hosts interact with various callers, enriching the conversation with diverse viewpoints:
Caller Javi draws parallels between the show's dynamic and the Judgment Night soundtrack, specifically referencing a mashup of Donna and Rosenberg, which resonates with Peter: "My favorite soundtrack albums of all time... my favorite soundtrack albums of all time" (10:54). Javi also introduces the Wolf Pack song, a creative contribution that sparks lighthearted banter about the show's musical themes.
Caller Moose discusses the New York Giants' quarterback prospects, emphasizing trust in the organization's process. He asserts, "John Mara and John Marisink show progress... we're competing" (15:01), prompting a discussion on the future trajectory of the Giants under potential quarterback drafts.
The highlight of the episode is the heartfelt conversation with David Wright, a legendary New York Metropolitans player, whose number five is set to be retired on July 19th at Citi Field. David shares profound reflections on his career, his connection with the Mets, and personal anecdotes:
Career Highlights and Memories: David recounts his favorite moments, including playing in the 2015 World Series and hitting pivotal home runs that symbolized his dedication and love for the game. He mentions, "to be able to represent National League Baseball in the World Series for me was a dream come true" (25:10).
Relationships and Rivalries: Discussing his camaraderie with Jose Reyes, David highlights the importance of staying united as a team, saying, "We felt like, you know, Jose and I can remember we were in the minor leagues... we never thought that that would come to fruition" (30:25).
Legacy and Reflections: David expresses humility and gratitude towards the Mets organization and fans, emphasizing his blue-collar work ethic and the fulfillment he found in his career. He reflects, "I truly think that I maximized my potential on the baseball field" (32:03).
Thoughts on Current Mets and Future Players: David offers insights into current players like Pete Alonso, advocating for loyalty and the significance of homegrown talent: "fan base... love to rally around their homegrown guys. And Pete is certainly one of those" (33:40).
The conversation concludes with heartfelt congratulations and well-wishes for David's upcoming honor, underscoring his lasting impact on the Mets and their fans.
The episode also features Caller Doug, a professional bass player, who showcases his musical talents by presenting a theme song tailored for the show. His composition incorporates references to the hosts and their affiliations, aiming to capture the essence of the podcast. Don and Peter engage enthusiastically with Doug’s creativity, appreciating his effort and encouraging continued collaboration.
Doug shares stories of his interactions with the hosts, including a touching exchange with Peter during a challenging time, highlighting the supportive community fostered by the podcast.
As the episode wraps up, Don and Peter promote the upcoming retirement ceremony for David Wright's number five and tease future discussions on college football playoffs and other sports events. They also encourage listeners to engage with the show through various platforms and participate in ongoing creative projects.
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