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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. How are we taking it to the 5 o'clock hour? Don Han Rosenberg, 880 ESPN Don and Han here with you. Peter being a dad right now, we congratulate him, Natalie and baby MJ as well. 800 now and 93776 is the number to get into the conversation. Only a few lines open, so get on them right now. Don, before we get into the football and I've had a big football weekend, divisional round, the best, best weekend to have. You get divisional round football Saturday, Sunday and then Monday, Monday night you get the national championship. So a lot of football this weekend. But I wanted to ask you, since you are, you're a resident Mets man, A.J. minter, the lefty that the Mets have signed a two year, $22 million deal. So that's good for the bullpen, I don't think. Obviously not a closer, but definitely a guy that you'll use in the bullpen. So you like that deal.
Don LaGreca
Of course they got to get something out of the bullpen and you know, they already, they already got their closer. Right. But that's the one thing that they haven't really addressed and that is the bullpen. And listen, you know how it is. One year the bullpen's great. Next year, what the hell's going on? You know, he's, he's only 31 years old and you know, he's coming from a team that you're very familiar with and he's left handed, which gives you a bunch of options there. So I listen, I like it. Bullpen is, is really a strange animal. One year it's good, next year it's great. Same with the actual individuals themselves. But you know, what's not to at least like? I think Stearns, you know, finds these gems and, and I think adding any kind of options out of that bullpen is exactly what you're looking for, it.
Alan Hahn
Was either him or Tanner Scott. So it looks like they went with him instead of Scott. Right. And is there a big difference between the two?
Don LaGreca
Negligible, I guess. I mean, you look at the Minters earn run average, you know, not a ton of appearances last year, but he had, you know, 145 combined the previous two years. Still relatively young. He had a couple of years ago, 70 innings. So, you know, not bad as far as being able to give you a really good arm out of the bullpen.
Alan Hahn
Okay, so the Mets doing some business here and obviously attending to things and the Pete Alonso of it all. We talked at length about it yesterday, of course, but we didn't see it was reported that the offer we were wondering, well, what was it? Three years, 70 million does feel like, you know, we'll take you back if we can get you for a discount. Other than that, we're moving on. So it seems like Pete Alonso's days are over.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, I heard Dan talking about it. I guess it broke just as we were getting off the air, you know, $23 million a year. I mean, come on, that, that to me last year, now it feels like, no, you don't want them. Like I thought I wanted him at the right price. There's no way he's accepting that offer. None.
Alan Hahn
Right, But.
Don LaGreca
But you made an offer. Hey, we made you an offer. You made an offer, you knew it was going to get turned down, and now you're done, right? I. So to me, that tells me they're 100% ready to move on. I thought maybe they were playing possum with, with, with signing Winker and saying that we've moved on to plan B. If that offer is legit, then that, that's an insulting offer that tells you that they don't want him.
Alan Hahn
Pretty clear. And so we'll see where he does end up. It'll be interesting. And then they still got it. Now they got to fill the hole. So more work to be done, but at least the bullpen is getting addressed.
Don LaGreca
And guys, I respect Nightingale. There's a lot of people I respect. I respect Buster too. And they're both like on polar opposites. Buster saying that, that the Blue Jays are going to trade Vlad. Then you got Nightingale saying to him, you know, maybe they'll move him to third. Back to third. But. So what's true? I mean, I, I don't think. I think he wants to play third, but I think he's good at third.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, why would you. Why would you do that. But a guy's not very mobile to begin with, right? Like, he's got. Can hit, obviously, it feels like what he's looking for. The Blue Jays aren't going to be able to pay him, right? There's no way. Like, you saw the stories when Soto signed. One of the first guys to react was, was Vlad. Because he's like, okay, he's getting that. Then I know what I'm getting. So and so that. That will be a very interesting thing to watch over the next couple of weeks is if it does get to the reality of, okay, you know, like, maybe they. Maybe they. Maybe they do want to talk to him. We'd love to resign him. Of course you would. But the minute you sit down at the table with them and you realize that his number's way above what you're willing to pay now. Okay, well, we're gonna have to sign. We're gonna have to trade him now because he's not interested in the number we're. We're trying to get him at.
Don LaGreca
So now the question.
Alan Hahn
But they've been desperate.
Don LaGreca
I think the Mets want him, and I feel like that's the Mets plan. They didn't want to landlock first base. We're going to go out and sign Vlad Guerrero in the off season next year. But the question now becomes, would you trade for him? Like, let's say things don't work out at third base.
Alan Hahn
They try.
Don LaGreca
The kids at third doesn't work out. Get off to a slow start, you find out Vlad's available to try to get him on the team a year earlier like he did with Lindor.
Alan Hahn
But what do you wait?
Don LaGreca
Do you wait until he's a free agent?
Alan Hahn
I think you go now, and here's why. First of all, it's going to cost you prospects. You know that the money doesn't matter. He's 25 years old. Soto's 26 years old. This is what you're trying to do here, right? Like, this is what you're looking. I. I'm not looking to wait on this. Bring him in, get him in. I got two megastars. Like, is Lindor. What is Lindor 28? Is he 30? Did he get to. Did he get like, like. So the point is, is that I want the window open now, right? 31. Oh, he's already 31. Okay, but like, the point is, is like, this is the time now. And if it costs you prospects, it's the same thing. When people talk about draft picks, that's great to prospects, but I Don't have use for that right now. That's my currency. That's going to buy me a guy who's 25 years old, probably not yet in his prime, and is, you know, and brings a heavy bat. And what do we. What did we learn last year with Soto and Judge? Soto needed Judge. Well, who's the guy that protects Soto in the lineup right now? With Alonzo gone, where's the big bat? Who's hitting before him or after him? No, I'm not walking them all the time.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, not. Yeah, there's no, you know, Marte's not going to be that. Nimmo's not going to be that. You know, Come on. No, they don't. No, they don't have it. They. Vientos isn't going to be that.
Alan Hahn
And so am I. So does my logic make sense now? Again, I'm a baseball novice, but is my logic made sense here? If you're the Mets, you need a lineup that's going to do something that makes sure that opposing pitchers just, well, all right, there's Soto. Well, let's just put him on because I don't want to deal with him. But you saw what happened with Judge and Soto together. Soto had the best year of his career because Judge was there and you couldn't mess around. You had to pitch to him.
Don LaGreca
But there's also the temptation. Can I get through 2025 with what I have and not have to give up any prospects and just sign him for money in the off season? But that really means having.
Alan Hahn
I'm asking you again, the prospects. What are you saving the prospects for if it's going to cost you some prospects? What, like, what else would you be getting with them?
Don LaGreca
Well, and also, when are they coming.
Alan Hahn
Up to help you? This guy's 25. I'm not getting a guy who's 30, 34. He's 25. He's going to. You want him to be with you and Soto with you for the next eight years.
Don LaGreca
No, you're right, because you'll be a young team to begin with. Now, this is why you have prospects. You have prospects that can come up and contribute to the organization or the pieces that you can move to be able to bring in guys and significant guys, like bringing in of Vlad Guerrero and listen, and you sign them during the off season and you're like, well, we could have had him in free agency, but yeah, 2025 is still important. You want to follow up what you did last year? What if Acuna doesn't work? What If Beatty, we being. We've tried Beatty already at third base, or are they going to go out and try to get Bregman, who's still sitting there unsigned, to play third base? But you also run the risk. If you wait, right. And those guys get exposed because they don't work out, then their currency kind of goes down. So if you like to make the deal now, I don't know. I think Stearns wants to wait on this. But let's see. Let's see what happens. Alonzo hasn't signed with the Blue Jays yet. Apparently you're hearing reports that the Blue Jays are talking to Vlad. And I'm sure those conversations are, what are you going to be asking for? Do you want to be here? And when they start getting indications that the money's just not in there, although they got tons of money, Al. I mean, they're owned by robbers.
Alan Hahn
No, they're desperate that. They're desperate to give money to some. They're trying to get people. They do have a ton of money. But it's also what you said, the second part of what you said, what is it going to take? And do you want to be here? Yeah, because he's just like, yeah, I don't really. I think I'm going to test free agency. I don't want to sign now because.
Don LaGreca
Vlad, I can't do this. Because. Because if you want to, here's the money we're going to offer you, all right? And it's going to be right there competitive with any other team that's going to be offering you. And if you're saying I want to test free agency, then. Then you don't want to be here. And I get it. Listen, I think Toronto is a terrific city and it's a really underrated baseball town, but it is Canada. You know, maybe he wants the exposure of being in a bigger city with a better chance to win. Blue Jays haven't won in over 30 years, so maybe. But yeah, that's going to be indication. Well, if that's the case, I can't take a chance of losing you for nothing. I'm going to deal you. So I'm sure the talks that they're having are along those lines.
Alan Hahn
I like the way you put it to let it play out. But this is definitely a very interesting scenario if you're a Mets fan, to just keep close eyes on. But at the first step you do as Toronto, as the Blue Jays is to sit down with them and say, what's it going to take financially? Do you really want to be here. Will you sign or are you going to say now, I'll talk to you at the end of the season with everybody else? If that's the case, they might have to get off the pot. 800-919-3776. We got calls to get to Donnie, but as I mentioned, it's a big football weekend and this is a big football story. It's not one that comes as a big surprise, but it is one that I think is definitely worth talking about because sometimes you get to a point where you're asking yourself, and I've heard coaches say this too, is this going too far? So Roger Goodell, the NFL commissioner, was on Bloomberg TV and I got, I don't, we don't have the audio for this. Right. So I might as well just read the quotes.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't believe it's cleared. No.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, I didn't think we had it cleared. Okay. So, you know, as we know, they expanded to 17 regular season games and cut it down to three preseason games. And that's what we had this year. And I think we could all say it's, it's, it's fine. But now there's a suggestion that it may continue to push to extend the regular season to 18 games and cut down the preseason to two. The quote that they have here is we would keep within a 20 game framework. So that means the 17 and 3, you make it 18 and 2. That's the 20 games we went from 16 4, now 17 3. So 182 is a logical step, is his quote. So they still have to get it approved at the players Association. Everything else I Goodell said that the 17 game season didn't increase, did not increase the number of injuries. They are also crediting that to rules changes and improve training and everything else. But Don, just looking at it from an aerial view, let's get in a helicopter, let's go up and look down. Is an 18 game season good for the NFL or are we going to reach a point where it's like, all right, you're going too far? Because two preseason games, in my opinion is the bigger part of the story versus the 18 regular season games. What do you think?
Don LaGreca
First of all, it's going to work, right? Everything the NFL touches turns to gold. So they're going to have a, what I think is going to happen is the players are going to agree to it even if they don't want to do it because it's going to be more revenue for them because preseason doesn't make any Money and an extra regular season game will make money. And, and I think to entice it to get done, they will add a second buy. So It'll be a 20 week season. There'll be a second buy. This will take us beyond now, I think President's weekend. So they will own February, you know, which is usually a pretty dead time in sports anyway, that they will own February. They don't care. They'll, they'll play to March. It's the NFL, right. So they will make money. This will work. They'll add the second buy, get a 20 week season. So it's going to happen. Get used to it. It doesn't make any sense. Staying at 17 alternating between nine and eight home games each year is stupid. So we knew this was going to happen. And that's how the NFL does things. They never tear off the band aid. They kind of peel it a little by little. So we'll go to 17 games. It'll make it easier to go to 18 than jumping from 16 to 18. But my concern, and maybe the second buy will help it. But I think you're going to start to see more moments of load management with that many games. And you look at the waste that Week 18 was this year where Kansas City completely mailed it in. Buffalo completely mailed it in. Allen played one series to keep his streak alive, but otherwise everybody's rested. We had like there were meaningful games, but there were a bunch of games that it was a glorified preseason. Well, that could be happening in week 18 in a 20 game season. You know, what if Kansas City or Buffalo have already clinched play playoffs and home field, but they still have a couple of games left to play and they may decide to mail those in or early in the season. I got a long season here. We're taking on a patsy this week. My quarterback's kind of nursing an ankle. You know what, maybe I'm not going to play them. I think it does open the door for potential load management and for games that you look at that really are sexy and then find out certain guys aren't playing and they become unsexy. And that's what I'm really afraid of.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, you're talking about the NBA and what that became, right? Like the fact that you, you have like how about the Thursday nights games? It's a, it's a Thursday night game for Amazon. That's a big deal. But for a team, it's like I just had a slugfest of a game on a Sunday against a rival like AFC north battle, like a clash you had, you know, Ravens, Bengals, and I'm banged up and now I gotta play Thursday night and I'm playing against the Panthers and it's like, I tell you what, I think I'm going to sit Lamar, you know, like, I'm going to. Or I'm going to sit Joe Burrow. I'm going to play my backup. I can win this game with like, you know, a running game. I think you're going to. You might see it. And if I'm Amazon, I'm like, wait, what are we doing here? Well, it's a long seat. See, you never used to say in the NFL, Don, it's a long season. We say it in baseball, we say it in the NBA these days. It's a long season. You got to, you got to pick and choose your spots. You got to pick and choose your battles. You're going to go through a. Losing whatever it is. You never used to say it about the NFL. The NFL always felt like a sprint, didn't it? Three weeks in, we were getting the stats. If you're not three and oh. Or two and one, this is the percentages that you're not going to make the playoffs. Like three weeks in, we're already telling you why you're not going to make the playoffs, because history says you won't. If your record is this like now, you're going to extend it, make it feel more of a marathon than ever before. And as you said, for the two teams that go all the way to the end, you're starting in July, you're ending now in later February. That's a loving. Think about that for a second. Now. That's a long season. That's a. And, and so the, the game becomes something more that you have to manage physically more than ever before. I do think I agree with you. I do think we're going to see that at some point the better teams will do this. The two buy thing is interesting, but I do think you're going to start seeing teams consider maybe investing more in a backup quarterback because I don't know if I want to play Mahomes. Allen Burrow, you know, Stafford, you know, Herbert, like, I'm not playing these guys against certain teams because I can't afford to get them hurt, because I still got, I mean, it's October. I still got 10 games to go.
Don LaGreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
I also think this, this is my other concern. Don't listen to the last point I'll make. September will become glorified preseason. It's Already bad football to begin with. Somebody tell me the last time they remember saying, wow, what a great game that was in September. They're usually bad games. I worry it's just going to be games that count. But it's glorified preseason style preseason quality football, which, you know, again, you'll get ratings, but it doesn't make the product any better.
Don LaGreca
No, it does. And with the two preseason games, you'll probably have, you know, the first preseason game nobody plays, or maybe the last one everybody plays or vice versa. They won't, everybody won't play both games. And you said it'll come at the expense of the quality of the start of the season. And so listen, it's going to happen. So just get adjusted to it. I knew once they went to 17, they were going to go to 18 just the way that it is. Don't be surprised if we're having a conversation 10 years from now that they'll go to 20. I mean the NFL knows everything that they're going to do is going to mean a windfall of revenue.
Alan Hahn
Oh, just.
Don LaGreca
So who knows when, when this will ever stop. But remember, the USFL had an 18 game schedule. I don't remember how they handled the preseason, but the USFL back in the 80s had an 18 game schedule. So you always felt like this was going to happen. I'm surprised it took as long as it did. But it, and, and you again, your instinct is going to be Allen, oh, more football. I love more football. I get it. But I also want quality football.
Alan Hahn
Yes, right. At what expense? Right, that's exactly it. At what. And that was the, you know, again, the NBA a couple of years ago when there was just you playing 20 plus back to backs and it just took away from the quality of the sport and that's when they had to start changing it. So it is something to watch, but it is something Roger Goodell said and we thought it was important enough to pass on to you. 800 now. 193776 is Don Legreca. I'm Alan Hahn. We have Josh in Connecticut joining us next. Hey, Josh.
Caller
Hey guys.
Don LaGreca
Doing good. How are you?
Alan Hahn
What's happening?
Caller
I'm doing great. I've been a listener from like 2010. I started with Mike and Mike and I love Barton Hahn and I love the Michael K. Show and the combination of Han, Don and Rosenberg is the best it's ever been. So kudos to you guys. I just have a comment about the Goodell proposal and it's kind of a compromise that'll make the quality of the game in preseason better. The quality of those early September football games that Don, you were saying are meaningless football games, which is true. A lot of these teams aren't on the same page and there's a lot of like risk with doing more games where players are getting injured. So maybe this approach would be a safer approach. So those preseason games, we could turn into flag football games. Flag football is going to the Olympics. They're going to start using that as like a national sport and way to get football out there. But more importantly, like you were saying, Han, they're going to be going for so many months playing hardcore football. They need the off season to repair and rest their, their bodies and recover. And when they go into preseason, they don't want to get injured. So they don't playing the games, they don't create that chemistry. Wide receivers to quarterback or, you know, everybody getting on the same page as far as lineman goes. But if you can put your star players, your Mahomes, your, your, your, you know, star players in preseason and not have the risk of injury because the games you're playing are flag football. Yeah, but you can get the timings of wide receivers and quarterbacks. But see Josh, so then you're getting September.
Don LaGreca
You're looking at the preseason as getting your starters ready. They also use the preseason to find out who deserves to make this team.
Alan Hahn
I was going to bring that up. You're right.
Don LaGreca
I can't decide whether a third string center is going to get cut or make the team by playing flag football. So. No, that's nonsense. You know, you got to get ready. Yes. But you also have to figure out who's on my team. And the only way to do that is to play actual football.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, and that's the problem with the two game preseason is how am I making cuts? You know, it's unfortunate, but we all focus on stars. But that's really like the 5% of the league, the rest of the league is made up of guys who prove themselves like, you know, Bart Scott, I love him. Bart Scott made the Ravens. He was an undrafted free agent. He came from Southern Illinois. Nobody knew who he was, but they brought him into training camp and they saw this guy and they were like, oh, okay, he's got some energy. But then they put him in a couple of preseason games and he was just, I mean he was wrecking house. And they were like, whoa, whoa, this guy's off the charts when the lights turn on. How, how could you possibly find the, the Wayne Crabettes of the world.
Don LaGreca
The Victor Cruz.
Alan Hahn
You got one preseason game. Victor Cruz, another great example.
Don LaGreca
Yeah. I mean, so. And then, and, and obviously if you cut the preseason games in half, there's half of a chance of those stories happening.
Alan Hahn
That's right.
Don LaGreca
Now they do scrimmage a lot more now. You know, the, the commanders will come in, come into.
Alan Hahn
But you know, Don, you know, it's different when you have. Have, of course done and there's a crowd in the building. Some guys play different.
Don LaGreca
You just want it just the way it's a chance to see it and you're reducing that. So. No, no. How about black football will not work.
Alan Hahn
Does that mean then that a minor league for the NFL is even more necessary?
Don LaGreca
Yeah, kind of come up with. Well, that's what they were hoping the World League of American Football was going to be, and it just never seemed to. But you still have a European league. Yeah, I'd like to see something like a G league for the NFL where.
Alan Hahn
Guys are playing not in the spring. Like, you can't do it in the spring. Give me something in the regular season where. Okay, you know, like if I can call a guy up if I need a guy or somebody, I'm developing someone because playing time's everything. Reps are everything. And it's the one thing in the NFL that never happens. Reps happen in practice and you know, so it's, it's. Again, it's so many different ways you can go with this, but we definitely know it's coming. Brian in the car once talks in Mets with you there. Brian, what's up? Bryant? Hello. Yes, we have you.
Caller
Hi. It's an honor to be able to speak with you guys. Don and Han, It's. So I just wanted to float an idea out there for you and I want to get your opinion on it if, if you don't mind. So you're talking about protection for Soto in the lineup and if the Mets can't resign Pete, then I think Comparable at 162 game averages would be Anthony Santander. I know he's an outfielder, but he's played 13 games at first base. He's. He's a hard worker. I'm sure he could handle it. I mean, they're planning right now to have Vientos play first base anyway, so how much worse could he be playing first in Vientos?
Don LaGreca
You know, I love the guy, but.
Alan Hahn
I, I'm surprised he's still available.
Don LaGreca
Yeah. Which is, you know, crazy. I can't experiment at first base with somebody you've got. You've got outfielder. I. No, I. I don't think that's where they're going to go. I think what they're going to do is what they. What you've seen they signed Winker, they're going to. For the outfield, for the bat.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Don LaGreca
You're going to have Vientos move the first base, and they're going to have, you know, Mauricio or Acuna or Beatty audition for third base. One of those guys. And listen, I loved what I saw out of Acuna, at least with the bat, when. When he called up in limited action last year. So hopefully one of those guys wins the job. And then if it doesn't work out, then maybe you can find something in season. Maybe that's when you make the Vlad deal or something else. I don't think they're going to think outside the box like that.
Alan Hahn
No. Yeah. And I don't think you should. Right. But I'm really surprised he's still out there. But the Vlad thing makes sense. But there's got to be other options. But I don't love the idea of moving Vientos and then Beatty, and I don't know if Beatty's retail really, really ready. We talked about this the other day, Don. If you're in this window now you're trying to win a championship, is that really what you're putting out on the field? Like, is that really what you're doing?
Don LaGreca
But. But I guess the point is, Alan, if it's like, it's a Louis bag.
Alan Hahn
And you're wearing, like, you know, an army jacket. Right. Like, you got it. If you're going all out, the whole outfit's got to look like, you know, it's. It's worth the price.
Don LaGreca
Right? Right. But I guess the point is, is that they can go out and get another third baseman. But if their eyes are on Vlog Vlad and keeping Vientos at third and signing Vlad Guerrero, are they willing to kind of chance it in 25 and then like they did with Soto, wait it out. Because, remember, it looked like at the beginning of the season, the Mets were taking a knee on 24, and then everything kind of came together because they knew they were going to go after Soto in the off season. Does this become now the Vlad offseason where, hey, we're not going to landlock our options because we want Vlad to be our first baseman and 20, 26, and we'll just try to see if we can put it together? That's the plan. I think of, hey, we got a grand picture here. You know, it's not all about all in on winning in 25. It's about the grand picture of piecing things together so that we, we can get. Now we've got Soto, we add Vlad and then we'll be able to put everything together from there. Like, is that the plan? And if that's the plan, then maybe they're willing to go, I don't want to say bargain basement, but not going for it in 25 to open the door for 26.
Alan Hahn
And Vlad Guerrero, let me ask you real quick because again, you're a Mets fan.
Don LaGreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
At this point, do you trust Stearns?
Don LaGreca
Yes. He's giving me no reason not to.
Alan Hahn
I mean, I agree. I wholeheartedly agree. I think he has shown you something in the last couple of years, especially with his ability to kind of hold off the owner a little bit and said, no, no, no, like, let's take this a step at a time. And I also think, what did he do last year? You just mentioned it again. We thought it was a punt season. And then halfway through the year, we thought it was okay, blow it up, sell it, trade it away. Right. It was, right. It was no one in the ballpark. Right. Rock bottom. Like that's, that's where everything was. And instead he just found pieces that started to fit. Right. He just little here, little there. This guy works. They found the way to piecemeal. So when I look at the, I look at their starting rotation and that's my, I'm curious, how's this going to work? But I, it's easy to, to say, oh, that's not going to work. But it's, it's, it's David Stearns and he's kind of earned the earn from me. Anyway, let me see how this works out instead of condemning it, because I don't think Frankie Montas is going to work out. I don't like the idea of converting a guy who has always been a reliever into a starter.
Don LaGreca
But what were we saying last year, Alan? We were saying, I don't know, Mania Severino.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, Severino. Right, exactly.
Don LaGreca
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Don LaGreca
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don LaGreca
Here we go.
Alan Hahn
This is 19 the NFL. Hurry up. Absolutely is. All right. You know the rules. They're very simple. 800-919-3776. Call in. There's a couple lines open right now. Your football questions, your football takes what you want to say to us when it comes to football. And when we pick up the line, let's do it this way. Don, how you doing today? You good?
Don LaGreca
Good. Yourself?
Alan Hahn
I'm good. Right. So we all know we're both good. We're both ready to go. We're both excited for the weekend. We're both excited for the weekend of football, and we just want to talk to you. So no, hi, how you doing? None of that. Just I take. I bring you up. You give us what you want to say or ask the question you want to ask, and we keep it moving. So you said Danny last week, he struggled, right?
Don LaGreca
Well, just he. I don't think he was ready for it. So he's like, hey, guys. And then bang, disconnected.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. All right. And I feel Danny, we're giving Danny a chance. Danny get right to different.
Don LaGreca
There's a different Danny without the Danny we were Talking about was Danny on Long Island. So Peter should have known better. Not. Did not. Danny in Centerport.
Alan Hahn
Oh, this. Dan. Oh, cool. It's also Long island, but okay. All right. So let's hope that Danny gets this right. So we begin the NFL. Hurry up. Leading off, Danny in Centerport. Danny.
Caller
Hello.
Don LaGreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Oh, boy.
Don LaGreca
Let's just. All right, new rule.
Peter Rosenberg
Do not start with Danny.
Don LaGreca
So you know what? Let's just. Let's just. Let's just talk football. Like, seriously. Let. That's what they do in the morning. We're not going to be disconnecting, people. Just. Let's just talk football, for God's sake.
Alan Hahn
You don't like this.
Don LaGreca
I don't like it at all. Do you?
Alan Hahn
It's just a simple rule. It's a rule. It's one rule.
Don LaGreca
It's. It's too much for people.
Alan Hahn
All right, we're going to. All right, let's. Let's. Let's. If this. If we go two for two, we kill the music and we're done. Fair?
Don LaGreca
Yeah. We'll just talk for.
Alan Hahn
So, Matt in Connecticut, you will either murder this segment or you will help us out. Go.
Caller
No more Mahomes.
Alan Hahn
Give me Josh Allen, baby.
Don LaGreca
All right, I'm with you. I feel bad about it.
Alan Hahn
Is my homes bad for it? The better thing to say. So he's saying he's done with Patrick. That's his take. No. No more Josh Allen. He wants Josh Allen to be the man now. Is it. Is. Is Mahomes becoming the villain? Is he becoming. We're sick and tight. Is he LeBron James? Remember LeBron? It's just everybody's tired of seeing LeBron James in the finals. Is this bad for the league when the same guy dominates? Is that the problem here?
Don LaGreca
Yeah, it's not. It's not their fault. All right? They're really good, but I'm just. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of them playing in every big game. I'm tired of. During the commercials. I. I've got to see, you know, Reed from Maruski. Yeah. I'm tired of Jake from State Farm. I'm just. I'm done. Am I so wrong to just be done? It's not their fault. Of course. To the victor goes the spoils. I get it. Like, Michael K always had the opinion. I just love greatness.
Alan Hahn
All right?
Don LaGreca
But this is the negative byproduct of greatness, of just being just. Oh, I'm over it. I'm done. How much better would it be to see the Lions the Bills, somebody different. Somebody different going for a championship. Somebody different that could be the center of attention.
Alan Hahn
I think you need villains. I think you need this. I think dynasties are the best for sports, whether it's a player dynasty or a team dynasty. I think that's what you want. Because you get two sides of it. You get emotion, people care. You also get the recognition. Everybody knows it. Every kid in creation, every 12 year old in the. In the world has the Mahomes haircut now. They all, they all want to look like. Like that's the thing. He has become that guy. He's the LeBron James of the NFL. He is dominating his generation. And everybody else is trying to just get a piece while they can. Who's going to be the Steph Curry?
Don LaGreca
But see, that's why I think Golden State is the best analogy. Like, you get sick of them, but they weren't. There was nothing to hate. There's nothing to hate about Kansas City. All right, you could be.
Alan Hahn
And he reads a great book of them.
Don LaGreca
Sick of the commercials, sick of the Celtics. He's sick of the whole.
Alan Hahn
I'm sick of Tyler Swift.
Don LaGreca
But I respect them and I don't hate them. Like, it's one thing when you talked about the Yankees and they're winning four championships of five years and they're, they're the evil Empire. And, and you didn't. You love to hate them because there were things that you just didn't like about them. Or those cowboy teams of the early 90s. I couldn't stand Michael Irvin's face. I couldn't stand Emmett Smith. I hated them. They were smug. They were arrogant. Jimmy Johnson was a, was a. Just a big conceited. And Jerry Jones, you couldn't stand his face. Like so that I agree with. Because then you really hate Tom Brady.
Alan Hahn
Come on, Patriots. Tom Brady is the same thing.
Don LaGreca
Listen, I rooted for a team that didn't have any trouble. I rooted for a team that didn't seem to have a problem with.
Alan Hahn
But you see what I mean? That's why it's good though. If the Giants beat Ben Roethlisberger in one of those Super Bowls, does it really feel the same? Does it hit the same way but. But hits a little different that you would beat them out?
Don LaGreca
Tom Brady kind of looks smug. Belich was very unlikable with his press conferences.
Alan Hahn
You think that Mahomes is, is. He's. He's too, he's too likable.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, I just, I'm just sick of it. I don't hate Them. I'm just tired of them. Like, I have no problem.
Alan Hahn
Sick of his voice.
Don LaGreca
Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, Kermit the Frog. I feel like I'm. I'm watching the Muppet show, but. But. You see what I mean? But I feel bad saying that because I think he's a good guy. That's what the trouble is. I'm with you. The dynasties are supposed to be about really just, you know, hating on the Bulls, hating on the Yankees, hating on the Cowboys, hating on those old, like, oiler team. Whatever. I don't. There's nothing to hate about Kansas City other than just being sick and tired of them. And that's what makes it no fun hating them, because it's not fun hating them, because they're not hateable, other than the fact that they just win all the time.
Alan Hahn
I love this. The NFL. Hurry up. Become the NFL. Feel fired up, because that's what Don is right now. All right, next up, Michelle and Belmore.
Peter Rosenberg
Michelle, hey, I picked the commander straight up against the Lions.
Don LaGreca
Was that a really stupid mistake? You on the money line to win the game?
Alan Hahn
Just. Just straight up money.
Don LaGreca
I believe it. Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Did you pick with emotion? Michelle, I need to know you're. You're doing. Is this emotion, or did you do some research?
Don LaGreca
I totally went with emotion.
Caller
That's why I'm thinking now, in retrospect.
Don LaGreca
It was a really bad decision. Well, anytime you pick with your heart, Michelle, it's a mistake. Unless it's for love. But when it has anything to do with money, it's probably the wrong decision. I don't know. Listen, everybody's high on Washington. Why are we down on Detroit all of a sudden? Why? Because they're banged up on defense. But what have they done to make you think that they're not going to win this game?
Alan Hahn
All they've done is kicked everybody's ass all season. Why all of a sudden is this. This rookie's going to come in to walk into Detroit, and he's going to win in that building. Did you see. Did you see Sam Darnold that night? That building is going to be so loud.
Don LaGreca
Oh, my God, dude.
Alan Hahn
You talked about this on My poor Michelle.
Don LaGreca
If Baker. You weren't here. If Baker Mayfield doesn't fumble, the Commanders lose the game. Thank you. A lot of great things happen. But that fumble exchange, they lose.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Don LaGreca
And now they're going to go into Detroit and beat the. Like.
Alan Hahn
Stop it. Right? Stop it. Exactly. Oh, we got our picks coming up. Brett in the car. Brett, what do you Got for us.
Caller
How would you feel about the Giants picking Quinn Ewers at three?
Don LaGreca
No. Is that value three?
Alan Hahn
Is he. He's not even supposed to be a first round pick, right?
Don LaGreca
Why wouldn't you trade down and then hope that he's there? Listen, if they're. If they're in full bloom love with him, then I guess. But how would. Why would you be.
Alan Hahn
Are you scare me?
Don LaGreca
That's what I want to know. Brett, are you. Are you in love with him?
Alan Hahn
Well, I'm sorry. I let Brett go. I let Brett go.
Don LaGreca
3. Now if you want to tell me at 35, he's there.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, yeah.
Don LaGreca
Then yeah, of course.
Alan Hahn
Make him. You make him. Your jalen hurts. It's. You got him for a great value and he'll. He'll not. He'll turn into a player.
Don LaGreca
It's like dart out of Ole Miss. It's intriguing, but not a three.
Alan Hahn
No, not. Well, not yet. But as him, he's gonna do the combine and now we're gonna have the throw the pro day season and somebody's gonna fall in love with Zach Wilson. Although at least, at least dart. Six, three, six, four. He's got some size to him.
Don LaGreca
I, I just. I love the fact that the guy plays an entire college football career and we don't care about him, but all of a sudden he can. I don't even know what they call it, the little street sign things when they jump up and they. They got to hit those. Those flags or whatever. Oh, he's got to be my pick. You see how fast he ran the 40? I'm sorry, I don't know the last time that you had to run in a straight line without anybody chasing after you.
Alan Hahn
Well, we remember. That was Daniel Jones. He got up to 25 miles an hour, then he fell. We do remember Kevin in New Jersey. Kevin, you're on the NFL. Hurry up.
Caller
Yes, I'll try to keep it quick. Bills, Ravens. The winner of that game wins the.
Don LaGreca
Super bowl this year. Kevin from New Jersey, out.
Caller
Thank you.
Don LaGreca
Thank you, Kevin. You know what? That's what I opened the show with. I think, I think your, Your super bowl, your super bowl is going to be the 4. What is it? 4, 25. Sunday, late Sunday afternoon. That is your Super Bowl. Ravens, Bills. Is your Super Bowl.
Alan Hahn
630.
Don LaGreca
Don from Jersey out.
Alan Hahn
6:30. Sunday, CBS, 630.
Don LaGreca
Whatever.
Alan Hahn
That's. That's your Super Bowl.
Don LaGreca
That's. Don't be mad at me. I'm just mad at you. Get. Just get ready then. Just get ready. To just destroy me when it's cheap. Eagles in the super bowl and I'm just going to be sick to my stomach and it's a great game.
Alan Hahn
Angel and Union City NFL. Hurry up with you, Angel.
Don LaGreca
What's the sexier matchup?
Caller
The Bills against the Lions or the.
Don LaGreca
Ravens against the Lions? Let's go.
Caller
Jets.
Don LaGreca
No, Bill's Lions. To me, anyway, because I. I think that.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, I'm feeling that. I think you're right. I think that I. I wanted to say Ravens because of the Derrick Henry factor and the fact that that's a. That, you know, that, that that Lions team is a big, nasty, physical, you know, kind of team. And, and they play that way. The body kneecaps. Who. And you got like, you know, I mean, you got a monster who's a running back. And then of course you got Lamar Jackson who's, you know, it's fire and ice. Those two.
Don LaGreca
No, both are dead sexy. But the. Never been to a Super bowl versus the team never won a Super Bowl.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, you like the Josh Allen. Okay. All right, that's going to be. We keep going here.
Don LaGreca
Myself again. Well, no, I love that you just. You admitted you blew through the clocks and now you just don't.
Alan Hahn
I am. I honestly, I've taken a sledgehammer to the clock today. I've been really bad, so that means it doesn't work.
Don LaGreca
So forget it. Let's just keep going.
Alan Hahn
All right, you know what? Dealer's choice. Anthony, who do we go with? Dealer's choice.
Peter Rosenberg
Anthony and Charlotte.
Alan Hahn
Anthony. Charlotte. All right, Anthony in Charlotte from the NFL. Hurry up. What's up, Anthony?
Don LaGreca
Rams win outright over the Eagles because their culture is poor. And Saquon, I can't wait to see you get beat. Well, I don't agree with the last part because I like Saquon, but if the Eagles lose, I. I will. You know what? I'm gonna. I'm tell you what I'm gonna do. If the Eagle. If the Rams win, we have no show on Monday because the Knicks. I'm gonna still sit in the seat for four hours.
Alan Hahn
You're gonna come into the studio and you're gonna sit in the seat for four hours. I would need photo proof. I would. And I would need it. I need it time stamped.
Don LaGreca
I'm gonna do it. And you know what? And instead of I will do the id, but I'll be the one doing an ID like throwing in. Woohoo.
Alan Hahn
You know what that would be? You know, here's the thing. If that happens, not only do you sit there for four hours. When the Nick game is over, I will leave Madison Square Garden. I will go up to the studio, I will sit with you and we will do a half hour podcast.
Don LaGreca
We might need a bridge about why.
Alan Hahn
The Rams won that game.
Don LaGreca
Dan's on it. Dan's on at 6. But we might need a bridge. So. Yeah, that. Well, we'll be there.
Alan Hahn
Little bridge to Dan. All right, so we'll do. All right, so there it is. If the Rams win this game, there's no Dan that day.
Don LaGreca
Well, somebody's on.
Alan Hahn
There's no bridge to Dan. Well, who is it then? Can we find out? It'll be the bridge to whatever the next nicks into college football that day.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, but there might.
Peter Rosenberg
Dan is in between it.
Don LaGreca
Yeah, that's what I said.
Peter Rosenberg
But not at 7.
Alan Hahn
There is a bridge to Dan.
Peter Rosenberg
6:30 is when the college football.
Don LaGreca
But I'm saying there's still Dan. Well, no, we're going to send Dan home and me and Alan are going to do it.
Alan Hahn
That's it. Dan. Dan gets a break.
Peter Rosenberg
So you guys do what you want.
Don LaGreca
The Rams win. I think we figured it out.
Alan Hahn
I think we got this right this time around.
Don LaGreca
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
So no Danny's anymore to start the NFL.
Don LaGreca
Hurry up. Good.
Alan Hahn
But we didn't have one problem after that, did we? Right?
Don LaGreca
It was all good. Boy, was it.
Alan Hahn
It was money. Love it. Poor Michelle. Poor Michelle. Just. Just burning money over emotion. Never bet with your heart. Never gotta bet with your hand. 3776. So we got our picks next, right?
Don LaGreca
Oh, do we have. Right here.
Alan Hahn
I have a. Oh, I have a six pointer for you, Donnie. Oh, baby. That's coming up. Stay with us. Don Han, Rosenberg. 880 ESPN Speeder.
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.
Don LaGreca
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
Alan Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
Don LaGreca
Show me something, Alan. Show me something.
Alan Hahn
Don, Han and Rosenbergs. Pick them all. I mean, give me the three.
Don LaGreca
That.
Alan Hahn
Was an evil laugh. As if you knew. As if you knew. All right, so after the first week of the playoffs, Peter went 5 and 1, 19 points. Wow, what a weekend for what a week he's had. Don, you would four and two. So you got 15 points out of wild card weekend. I broke even three and three with 12 points. I'm bringing up the rear. So we have our picks. We have four games. Don, you are the high man. Well, actually Peter is the leader. So Anthony, do you have Peter's picks?
Peter Rosenberg
No. Really? No, I do not have Peter.
Don LaGreca
That's gonna stink when he's gonna get no points. That's gonna hurt.
Alan Hahn
He's gotta be stuck at 19.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't have his picks.
Don LaGreca
I don't care that he had a kid. We got stuff to do.
Peter Rosenberg
I'll give you Ballards.
Alan Hahn
I have Ballards.
Peter Rosenberg
We got a six point play, Eagles minus six and a half. Five point play. Ravens minus one and a half, four point, Chiefs minus eight and his three pointers. Commanders plus nine and a half. Those are Ballard's picks.
Don LaGreca
I don't know why it would be a good segment to start with Ballard's picks, but we'll try to overcome. He's a great record.
Alan Hahn
Donnie, take it from here, please.
Don LaGreca
All right, I'm gonna start my three point play. You know, the Chiefs might be a little stale. You know, you had the meaningless game against Denver in week 18. You get a buy and now you're home against the Texans team that you know you're going to be. But. But here's the key number for me. They were 15 and 2 this year, 7 and 10 against the spread. It's an eight point. I'm gonna go with the Texans to cover the number. They'll lose the game and the Chiefs will be have it in hand most of the day. But I wouldn't be surprised if they end up just winning by seven and not cover. So that's my three point play. Texans, my three point play. I'm not really understanding all the love for the Commanders. I thought what they did was great last week in Tampa. I think Daniels really showed you something to 12 touchdowns in the, in the, in the fourth quarter in his rookie year. Nobody's ever done that before. But if Baker Mayfield doesn't fumble the football, they probably lose the game. And now they're going to go in Detroit and beat the Lions. That's not going to happen. The Lions are going to win. But will they cover the nine and a half? It's under 10. I'm going to Go with the Lions and that is going to be my five point play. I skipped over my four point play which is going to be the rams. Rams are 4 and 1 against the spread in the postseason under their head coach McVeigh. I think the Eagles sneak this one out, but they weren't overly impressive against the packers guys. It was a great defensive performance by the Packers. Rams, different story again, zero pressure. I like the Rams getting six and a half as my four point play. My six point play. I've been saying it all day. I love the Ravens. They're a big, juicy, thick, physical team and it's a finesse team. The Bills are a finesse team in cold weather. Smaller defense that uses its speed. Ravens will take advantage of that. Bills have been a favorite 42 consecutive home games until now because I think Vegas realizes the Ravens are the better team. I like the Ravens outright as my six point play as they are giving a point and a half to the Bills. So I like the Texans as my three point play. I like the Rams as my four point play. The Lions is my five point play and I'm going. Ravens winning outright is my six, six, six point play. Wow.
Alan Hahn
You're throwing six on that game. That's a pick em and you're putting six on it. All right.
Don LaGreca
That's right.
Alan Hahn
Did Peter finally check in with us?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, you know what? I did. I actually got Maya's number. Maya has a phone already. It's amazing. MJ2 Incidentally, she saw Peter's notes and she texted me the picks. We have Kansas City minus eight as his six point play.
Don LaGreca
Oh, right. Up against it. Bang.
Peter Rosenberg
Baltimore minus a point and a half as his five point play.
Don LaGreca
All right.
Peter Rosenberg
It could be moving day for Allen. Rams plus six and a half as his four point play and the Commanders as his three point play. I gotta tell you, three, three. It's got less.
Alan Hahn
That is a. I think that's kind of soft. That's very soft.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not happy.
Alan Hahn
I will say baby soft.
Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
Don LaGreca
So.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Alan, what do you got?
Alan Hahn
All right. All right. Here's what I got because I'm actually going to just be the guy that wears pants around here and make these picks. All right, so my three point pick is going to be. I'm going to take the point and a half and I'm going to take Buffalo because I trust them more than I trust the Ravens. I have seen Lamar and the Ravens in these situations. It has not ended well. So I'm going there with my three, my four point Play. Did you check the weather in Philadelphia? It's going to be snowing or ice rain in the middle of the. This game is a 3 o'clock game fellas. So that I'm taking Philadelphia and I think they're going to win by a touchdown. So six and a half to spread. I'm good. Four point play now Saturday's games interesting to me. So my five point game is just again, it's going to be a scrimmage for the Kansas City Chiefs. Houston not ready for this. Give me the eight. I'll lay the eight. I'm sorry. And I'll take the Chiefs. I'll take the, the Fighting Swifties and all of them five points and then the six pointer from way downtown. This is where reality check comes in for, for Daniels, the commanders and their nice little run. Detroit's on a mission. That's nine and a half but I don't think it's going to be even close to that six points. I'll give you the nine and a half. Give me the Lions. I'm biting kneecaps on Saturday night. Watching that game on Fox with Tom Brady trying to explain everything. There you go.
Don LaGreca
If you had any cubes you would have made the, the Bills your six point play.
Alan Hahn
No. How do you do that when it's a pickup? No, no, I'm good.
Don LaGreca
Go right up against me.
Alan Hahn
I, I, I, But I already made my picks though. I'm already locked in. Ask Anthony. I was locked in this afternoon. It's true. Listen, you know I'm being, this was strategia. That's what I was doing. So anyways, we'll see where it goes. I am a little nervous because I am starting out slow at 3 and 3. So I need to have a good weekend here because it'd be really hard to catch up.
Don LaGreca
Going to be.
Alan Hahn
We get to, we get to championship weekend. There's no way I can catch up now is championship weekend. Six point is a six and a five.
Don LaGreca
That's right.
Alan Hahn
So 11 points on the, on the table.
Don LaGreca
There you go.
Alan Hahn
Wow. Okay. Something definitely to keep an eye on. All right. Something I got to do. I got to go run and do something. Don. I got to go run and do something. A little pregame. We got Knicks and the Timberwolves tonight. We got a lot going on here at Madison Square Garden. We got a lot of the calls baby on this show. Get the calls. 800-919-3776. Weekend Warrior and more coming up. But Don, you've got a little bath.
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Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Divisional Round Football Friday
Episode Information:
In the third hour of their ongoing series, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg pivot seamlessly from Major League Baseball to the heart-pounding action of the NFL’s Divisional Round. Hosted by Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg, this episode provides insightful commentary on both the Mets' latest roster moves and the NFL’s proposed changes for the upcoming season.
Alan Hahn initiates the discussion by addressing the New York Mets’ recent acquisition of A.J. Minter, a left-handed pitcher signed to a two-year, $22 million deal.
Alan Hahn [00:31]: "So you like that deal."
Don LaGreca expresses approval, highlighting the necessity of bolstering the bullpen.
Don LaGreca [01:33]: "I listen, I like it. Bullpen is really a strange animal. One year it's good, next year it's great."
He emphasizes Minter’s youth and versatility, noting his left-handed pitching offers valuable options for the Mets.
When compared to Tanner Scott, Don finds little difference between the two, citing Minter's impressive statistics and potential for future contributions.
Don LaGreca [02:26]: "Negligible, I guess. I mean, you look at the Minters earn run average..."
Transitioning to the Mets' offensive lineup, Alan Hahn raises concerns about Pete Alonso’s looming free agency and the Mets' unsatisfactory three-year, $70 million offer.
Alan Hahn [02:45]: "It seems like Pete Alonso's days are over."
Don LaGreca concurs, interpreting the low offer as a clear signal that the team is prepared to move on.
Don LaGreca [03:21]: "But you made an offer... and now you're done, right?"
The hosts debate the strategic implications, pondering whether the Mets should pursue Vlad Guerrero to fill the void, reflecting on team-building dynamics.
The conversation pivots sharply to the NFL, where Roger Goodell, the NFL Commissioner, has proposed extending the regular season from 17 to 18 games while reducing the preseason to two games.
Alan Hahn introduces the topic, referencing Goodell’s comments about maintaining a 20-game framework.
Alan Hahn [10:34]: "We would keep within a 20 game framework."
Peter Rosenberg briefly mentions the uncertainty surrounding the proposal's approval.
Peter Rosenberg [10:34]: "I don't believe it's cleared."
Don LaGreca is skeptical about the benefits, citing the NFL’s track record of prioritizing revenue over player welfare.
Don LaGreca [11:56]: "Everything the NFL touches turns to gold... they are going to make money."
He predicts further extensions, potentially reaching a 20-week season, and warns of increased load management leading to diminished game quality.
Don LaGreca [16:13]: "I think you're going to start to see more moments of load management with that many games."
Alan Hahn shares similar concerns, likening the potential scenario to the NBA's scheduling pitfalls, where overexertion led to decreased performance quality.
Alan Hahn [16:13]: "It's a long season... It's like a marathon than ever before."
The hosts collectively express apprehension that extended seasons could transform the NFL from a sport perceived as a sprint into a grueling marathon, impacting player health and game integrity.
Alan Hahn [17:36]: "I have no use for that right now. That's my currency."
The segment transitions to listener calls, where fans engage with the hosts on various topics, primarily focusing on NFL game predictions.
Listeners like Josh from Connecticut and Brian from the car share their thoughts on upcoming games, with discussions revolving around team performance and strategic betting.
Josh: "No more Mahomes. Give me Josh Allen, baby."
Don LaGreca [30:46]: "How much better would it be to see the Lions, the Bills, somebody different."
A significant theme emerges around the over-dominance of star players like Patrick Mahomes, leading to calls for more varied competition.
Don LaGreca [31:32]: "I'm tired of them playing in every big game."
Alan Hahn [32:22]: "He is the LeBron James of the NFL."
The hosts debate whether having a single dominant player or team enhances or detracts from the league’s appeal, touching upon fan fatigue and the need for diverse championship contenders.
As the show concludes, the hosts finalize their picks for the weekend's NFL games, humorously reflecting on their betting scores and exchanging light-hearted banter.
Don LaGreca [43:31]: "The Chiefs might be a little stale... but they'll have it in hand most of the day."
Alan Hahn [48:47]: "I'm going here with my three, my four point play."
Don, Hahn & Rosenberg deliver a comprehensive blend of sports analysis and lively discussion, seamlessly navigating between MLB and NFL topics. They offer thoughtful insights into the Mets' strategic decisions while critically evaluating the NFL’s proposed season changes. Engaging with listeners adds dynamic perspectives, making the episode both informative and entertaining for sports enthusiasts.
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This episode serves as a deep dive into pivotal moments for the Mets and the evolving landscape of the NFL, enriched by the hosts' expert opinions and interactive listener engagement.