Hour 3: Fashion & Marisa Tomei

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 3: Fashion & Marisa Tomei (Feb 26, 2026)

Episode Overview

This vibrant hour pivots between the sharp wit and local flavor of Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg, blending New York sports, fashion banter, pop culture nostalgia, and some soulful music debate. While the show’s sporting roots are ever-present, this hour leans hard into the offbeat: the small rituals of on-air fashion, wild athlete superstitions, memories of cinematic and musical icons, and a full-throated debate on the evolving concept of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Guest callers and regulars join to riff on everything from how to wear a suit to delivering an Oscar-winning Marisa Tomei monologue.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On-Air (and Travel) Fashion Choices

[00:44–07:51]

• Priestly Looks and Turtlenecks:

  • Alan jokes about PK Suban looking like a priest due to his shirt ("It makes him look like Father PK, right?" – Alan Hahn, 01:14).
  • The trio discusses their fashion preferences for TV appearances: turtlenecks, ties, and quarter-zips.
  • Don claims Peter looks best in turtlenecks, leading Rosenberg to muse on doing that look for an upcoming game.

• Suit Rotations & Behind-the-Scenes Rituals:

  • Don admits he’s got eight suits in his broadcast rotation for Devils games [03:24].
  • The crew laughs about the realities—and dry-cleaning costs—of on-air wardrobes.
  • Changing Suits in Transit:
    • Discussion on whether to change out of suits before getting on team flights.
    • Don: "I have literally changed next to the bus." (05:05)
    • Peter: “Never seen anybody do it.” (04:47)
    • Alan: “You don’t have to dress up to get on your Pan Am flight.” (05:26)
  • They observe the subtle hierarchy and rule-watching of team travel, especially when new to the job.
  • Alan draws parallels to his time at WWE, cautioning how “crossing the Rubicons” as a fresh face can be tricky.

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2. Athlete Superstitions & Nutritional Oddities

[08:32–10:56]

• Mets Pitching Prospect Ryan Lambert:
  • Don tells the almost absurd backstory of Mets prospect Ryan Lambert—famous for eating "30 raw eggs a day," scarfing down chicken hearts, sleeping to optimize circadian rhythms, and throwing 99.6 MPH "heaters from the heart."
  • Alan, incredulous: "30 raw eggs… No. 30 raw eggs." (10:21)
  • Don: "He is my favorite Met right now." (10:18)
  • The crew marvels at his regimen, likening it to legendary oddball stories (Sid Finch).
  • Food sidebar: Alan shares his appreciation for chicken hearts at Brazilian barbecue; Don deadpans, "Or Fear Factor..."

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3. Supporting Those in Need: Ron Duguay’s Cancer Fight

[14:08–17:21]

• The hosts quickly pivot to address somber news: NHL veteran Ron Duguay’s cancer battle and financial need.
• The team shuts down Twitter/X critics who question why a former pro is seeking help:
  • Don: “Brother, brother. Look at when he played!” ([14:49])
  • Alan: “If you didn’t... invest well... you have kids to take care of, you have life, you send kids to college…” ([16:59])
• The team urges listeners to support Duguay’s GoFundMe, decrying the toxicity of social media.
  • “Shut up and just go to the GoFundMe page and support people in need!” – Alan Hahn ([17:18])

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4. Pop Culture Detour: Mariah Carey’s Underrated Catalog

[21:02–27:31]

• The trio muses on Mariah Carey's deep roster of hits, from early forgotten smashes ("Vision of Love", "Love Takes Time") to perennial favorites like "Hero", "Always Be My Baby", "Fantasy", and of course, the Christmas juggernaut "All I Want for Christmas Is You".
• Alan: “Dude, it is one of the great comedies of all time. I watch it quite a bit...” ([13:09]) – Actually for "What About Bob" but same tone used when rating Mariah's musical output.
• They debate the wear and tear of Mariah’s vocals and her evolution into diva status, with Don cheekily noting her high heel obsession and Alan questioning why she won’t simply wear sneakers:
  • Alan: “…once you have to be carried around, I’m going, these aren’t the shoes for you.” ([26:01])
• Listener Heather calls in to recommend the "My All" remix featuring Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz, and delights the crew with a pitch-perfect Marisa Tomei "My Cousin Vinny" monologue ([30:14–31:12]).

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5. Rock & Roll Hall of Fame: What is ‘Rock’?

[35:00–43:18]

• Caller debate: Who belongs in the Rock Hall?
  • Alex laments omissions like Meatloaf/Jim Steinman, and challenges where acts like Sade or Mariah Carey fit.
• Rosenberg and Hahn argue for thinking of "Rock & Roll" as a foundational musical “tree” with many genre “branches”:
  • Don: “Rock and Roll’s the tree, it has many branches, many genres…” ([36:39])
  • Alan: “It kind of just sounds better than the ‘pop hall of fame.’” ([40:50])
• The discussion covers evolving genre definitions, industry business motives, and the need for inclusivity as musical trends shift away from classic rock:
  • Rosenberg: “30 years from now... Who are you inducting? ...Where is rock and roll?” ([38:57])
  • Alan: "If people looked... at Led Zeppelin or The Who and went, 'those guys don't look anything like Little Richard'... it's been evolving since it was created." ([39:26])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On dressing for broadcast:
  • Don: “You can’t do joggers and a hoodie. You can’t do that. You end up going quarter zip. That’s at least comfortable.” (02:56)
• On suit-wearing rituals with sports teams:
  • Don: “I have literally changed next to the bus.” (05:05)
  • Alan: “What is this, the 50s? You don’t have to dress up to get on your Pan Am flight.” (05:26)
• On strange athlete habits:
  • Peter: “He eat his own hair. As long as he’s throwing strikes, I don’t care.” (17:33)
• On social media and supporting former athletes:
  • Don: “Someone actually said, 'Can’t believe this guy’s asking for money. He made millions playing hockey.' Like brother, brother. Look at when he played.” (14:49)
• On Mariah Carey:
  • Alan: “She had absolute smash. Pun: smashes…” (25:14)
  • Don: “Isn’t that the definition of what she is—a diva?” (26:11)
• Listener Heather’s Marisa Tomei impression:
  • “Imagine you’re a little doe—idea—you get thirsty…” (30:46)
    — Accompanied by roaring laughter from the hosts.
• On the Hall of Fame tree analogy:
  • Don: “When you think of rock and roll… that’s not how it’s being viewed when it comes to the Hall of Fame. It’s being viewed as a tree with now many branches that make sense.” (37:39)
• On the need for nuance:
  • Alan: “Just requires nuance. That’s all.” (42:57)

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Highlights by Timestamp

• 00:44–07:51: Fashion & suits ritual, on-the-road wardrobe logistics.
• 08:32–10:56: Mets prospect Ryan Lambert’s eccentric habits; “Heaters from the heart.”
• 14:08–17:21: Support for Ron Duguay’s cancer fight, player salaries, and financial struggles of past athletes.
• 21:02–27:31: Mariah Carey hits rundown, diva fashion, vocal durability debate, listeners chime in on favorite songs and movie monologues.
• 35:00–43:18: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame debate — genre definitions, shifting industry trends, the inclusivity (and business reality) of "rock," and the “music tree” analogy.

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Tone and Takeaway

This episode is classic Don, Hahn & Rosenberg: irreverent but thoughtful, deeply New York, full of pop-culture savvy, and generously open to audience participation. The hosts offer a compelling mix of behind-the-scenes sports talk, empathetic commentary on real-life struggles, and a willingness to poke fun at themselves and their icons alike. Regular callers feel like old friends, and the debates—fashion, sports, music—showcase both knowledge and, above all, personality.

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For listeners seeking sharp sports and pop insights with a true NY flavor—and a few belly laughs—this hour is not to be missed.

Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

From 30 for 30 podcasts.

[Heather]

Did you say someone got shot?

[Caller John]

Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami,

[Don La Greca]

gunned down the key to this case. It's Brian.

[Alan Hahn]

An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody.

[Don La Greca]

This might be a hit.

[Alan Hahn]

You want the truth? They just want a conviction.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us.

[Alan Hahn]

Murder at the U.

[Podcast Announcer]

Listen now, this is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Podcast Announcer]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

[Alan Hahn]

Father Suban, I did not even know.

[Don La Greca]

Sorry.

[Alan Hahn]

Good for him. Look at PK Man.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, he's been ordained. Yeah, he's.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't know he was a priest.

[Don La Greca]

He's not. He's just wearing a black shirt.

[Alan Hahn]

But.

[Don La Greca]

What's that?

[Alan Hahn]

White. But what's the white thing right at the top of the.

[Don La Greca]

It's. It's the unbuttoned. You know how they. No collar.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Shirt.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And then they. Sometimes the buttonhole, the stitching is a different color. It happens white on a black shirt. So I can understand you're.

[Alan Hahn]

It makes him look like Father pk, Right?

[Don La Greca]

It.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He chose white, you chose violence.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right. I'm not coming after them.

[Don La Greca]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you not?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I'm just saying he looks like a priest. That's. I mean, everyone makes choices with their. With their appearance. What do you think, Alan? How do you think I did today? Look wise on espn.

[Don La Greca]

I like it. I always told you, your best look is the glasses, sweat and black shirt, sweater. I think you turtleneck.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the vibe you go.

[Don La Greca]

I'd go there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're a good turtleneck guy.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, you're a big. You're a big turtleneck guy.

[Alan Hahn]

I think I'll have to do it again this weekend. I'm out. I'm outside. Like, I'd rather go turtleneck, I think, than, like the.

[Don La Greca]

You could go now if you did suit. You're fine.

[Alan Hahn]

But you have to. Yeah. You'd be wearing top coat, but you'd

[Don La Greca]

have to go tie.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I always go tie. Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Well, you see, some people do the open collar thing.

[Alan Hahn]

I tried it a few months. Like six months ago.

[Don La Greca]

I was like, it's not for me in the summer. Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

It doesn't work. You know what happens to me?

[Don La Greca]

Some people are, some people aren't.

[Alan Hahn]

When I. When I let. When I open up the collar for the tie, for whatever reason, that looseness when the shirt opens makes the whole shirt kind of fit me worse, you know?

[Heather]

What?

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, like, buttoning the top button and keeping it tight keeps my whole look together. The second I open it up and you're seeing neck and it just doesn't work for me. Yeah, some people.

[Don La Greca]

Taco meat, all of it.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's not for me. Yeah, it's not me. You're doing a masterful job with the quarter zip today.

[Don La Greca]

I just felt it after get up. Like the first thing you want to do is just scrape off the makeup. Just get comfortable.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right.

[Don La Greca]

But I. Every time I say today's the day, I'm just going with joggers and a hoodie, and I'm like, I can't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's work.

[Don La Greca]

You can't do that.

[Alan Hahn]

So you end up going quarters.

[Don La Greca]

So I went quarters. That's at least comfortable.

[Alan Hahn]

Don, let me ask you a question, and I'd like the truth, if you don't mind,

[Don La Greca]

please.

[Alan Hahn]

How many different suits are in rotation right now in the devil situation? That's what people want to know. Alan.

[Don La Greca]

It does. It.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's burning. The question's burning.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not a. It's not a great number. All right, let's talk about it right now on Thursday.

[Alan Hahn]

How many?

[Don La Greca]

Eight.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that's. I think it's plenty.

[Don La Greca]

I think that's. That's. Yeah, you're only healthy.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a healthy number. How many games a month are you doing? 10?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. 12, 15. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

No, Matt, that's max.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's the one thing you notice is the dry cleaning bill. Oh, that's extensive.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that's up.

[Don La Greca]

Well, you don't have to dry clean a suit all the time, though.

[Alan Hahn]

There's shirts.

[Don La Greca]

The shirts, you want to keep them clean. But the shoes, I do one wear.

[Alan Hahn]

Just.

[Don La Greca]

Just steam the shoes, shirts.

[Alan Hahn]

You're doing one wear suits.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I do two wears two.

[Don La Greca]

No, Don, that's. No, you don't have to do that much overkills. Just steam them. I mean, what do you. What are you. Are you working out of these suits?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, but I'm run the stairs. All right, look. Look at today, right? So today I'm in the suit at 1:30, okay? I walked, you know, I walked the mile to the arena. I'm gonna do the show, do the game, right. And sit on the ball. I'm not gonna get out of the suit until 2:00'. Clock. I'm wearing the suit literally for 12 hours.

[Don La Greca]

Well, you don't change before you get on the plane after the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What am I changing?

[Don La Greca]

You know, in the arenas, they have rooms.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've never seen one person do that ever.

[Alan Hahn]

Wait to what? Change in the arena.

[Don La Greca]

We do it all the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I don't know what you basketball people do.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, you basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't even have to play.

[Don La Greca]

I don't know what you people are doing. You hear how you get out of Jersey? I know what you people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All the times I've been around hockey

[Don La Greca]

by the team locker room, nobody that

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've ever worked with has changed out of their suit.

[Don La Greca]

Going, well, that's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That.

[Don La Greca]

That's a different story.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, wait, wait to go to the plane?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you never get comfortable for the plane ever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I'll loosen the tie, take the jacket off, but I'm not going to go. I have something else.

[Don La Greca]

I. This is. This has happened. There are witnesses. I have literally changed next to the bus.

[Alan Hahn]

Standing next to it.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, like. But you know that the buses are. Dennis, They're. They're side by side in.

[Alan Hahn]

So you have a little. You could go between.

[Don La Greca]

You can go between the buses. Nobody's around. And you just real quick occurred to me to do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, what if it's.

[Alan Hahn]

What if it. But like, Don, what if you had a long flight? Long. If it's like a nighttime five hour flight, four hour flight.

[Don La Greca]

You San Antonio, the Charlotte. There's no way I'm sitting in a suit.

[Alan Hahn]

No, you got to get cozy.

[Don La Greca]

Have to get cozy.

[Alan Hahn]

What is this, the 50s? You don't have to dress up to get on your Pan Am flight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But wait a minute.

[Don La Greca]

Smoke my cigarette. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're not leaving the Rock.

[Don La Greca]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guess we did. We left the Rock to go to Colorado. To go to Denver. Oh, didn't occur to me. Oh, didn't occur to me to change out of my. Where am I going to run to the bathroom?

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

Don't. You're not the. Are you the first one on the plane?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never seen anybody do it.

[Don La Greca]

Well, why don't you be?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Used to do. But now there's no dress code anymore.

[Don La Greca]

Secret Mike Breen does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not judging people. I'm just saying I've never seen it.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you're new, so it would. I mean, this is Don's first year.

[Don La Greca]

Why don't you be the trendsetter? Say, hey, fellas, this is how they do it in the NBA. Trust me, I'm sure in the NHL that'll go.

[Alan Hahn]

But we have to be honest. There's no way around this.

[Don La Greca]

All right?

[Alan Hahn]

This is Don's first year as the guy on tv, and I know Don Very well.

[Don La Greca]

Rule follower.

[Alan Hahn]

Not just rule follower, though. That too, but the kind of guy he is. And by the way, I was this way, too, for many years at wwe. Especially because I'm not around weekly. I'm only around monthly. It takes. Took me a long time to feel comfortable crossing any of the Rubicons of, like, should I do this or do I have to be a new guy?

[Don La Greca]

I don't know what the rules are.

[Alan Hahn]

It takes time.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't used to go in the men's locker room. I just go in the TV locker room.

[Don La Greca]

But Don has gone on planes. Like he's been on charters before.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Alan Hahn]

Because he. If that's right, seen all the people

[Peter Rosenberg]

that I've worked with, you know, with the Rangers, you know, Sam Rosen and Joe Micheletti and Dave Maloney now working with. With Sal and Bryce and Rachel. I've never seen them change. Okay, just get on the plane.

[Don La Greca]

You go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, the players used to change when they had the dress code out of their suit.

[Don La Greca]

Yes. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Change right in the aisle of the plane. Didn't matter them. But now there's no dress code anymore, which I kind of miss.

[Don La Greca]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they. Now they don't have to worry. Yeah, Peter, I would do it, but I think I'd literally be the first person to do it. I've never seen it.

[Don La Greca]

But then you'd be comfortable, and then others would be like, look at that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Never never occurred to me to do it. Like, I'm coming. I.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's the issue. Here's the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's the.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's the. Here's the issue. Here's the issue is that, Don, you take off the suit. In some ways, it's actually worse because trying to pack it up, like, really well to, like, travel with it, you might wrinkle it more. Sometimes wearing it, you're in better shape than trying to find.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're right. And I'm not going to go rummage through my luggage changing it. I'm not doing that.

[Don La Greca]

All right. Hey, listen.

[Alan Hahn]

Live the life you want.

[Don La Greca]

You do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You get on the plane to St. Louis, I'm going to stuff my face, which I shouldn't do that late, but I'll be hungry.

[Alan Hahn]

What's your schedule the next few days? You're in Pittsburgh today, like you dream of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

After the game, we'll fly to St. Louis. Off day in St. Louis.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, beautiful.

[Peter Rosenberg]

4:00 local time. Game Saturday, and then we fly home after the game.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don La Greca]

That's actually not bad when you think about. You'll be home Saturday at a reasonable. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, no, it's 4 o'. Clock.

[Don La Greca]

But he's not gonna be back at 2 o' clock in the morning.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

He'll have a good night's sleep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

That part's nice.

[Don La Greca]

800-919-3776.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Honor the tease.

[Don La Greca]

So let's. So, Don, if I told you the Mets had a prospect.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

Who once used to eat 30 raw eggs a day. Who one time thought, I need to get more protein. So he went to a Brazilian steakhouse and ordered a bowl of chicken hearts.

[Alan Hahn]

Wait, who did this?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. And he wants to get his, you know, the circadian rhythms. Right. So sleeps till 8am walks straight into sunlight and stands in it.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don La Greca]

Right. Very, very regimented. This is somebody who throws 99.6 miles an hour. So far we have seen in the spring training. Early on last year, hit over 100 in double A. Thinks he can get it up to 102.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Don La Greca]

And got him figured out his fastball after getting cut from his college team and had one of his friends join him at a. At a batting cage. And he started throwing heaters from the heart.

[Alan Hahn]

Heaters from the heart?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. And the best of all, he's got the attention of the manager, Carlos Mendoza, who said if he throws strikes, he could be special.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ah, there's the rub.

[Don La Greca]

If he throws strikes, he could be special.

[Alan Hahn]

What's. I'm trying to think of what the comp is for that.

[Don La Greca]

30 raw eggs a day, chicken hearts, protein. No circadian rhythms, and heaters from the heart. How are we not rooting for Ryan Lambert? He is my favorite met right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

30.

[Don La Greca]

I want this to happen so bad.

[Alan Hahn]

30 raw eggs. No. 30 raw eggs.

[Don La Greca]

I think that.

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely.

[Don La Greca]

He did it for a month. It can kill you.

[Alan Hahn]

That is absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Get salmonella. You know, you could. You could.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, listen, I do enjoy a chicken heart.

[Don La Greca]

So that's very Sid Finchy, is it not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Sid Finch. That was a.

[Don La Greca]

Like. Like I'm reading this story.

[Alan Hahn]

It's Sid Vicious.

[Don La Greca]

Anthony Decomo had this story. And the more I was so compelled because this guy sounds like he's completely off the. Off his rocker. So he's the right kind of crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

Chicken hearts is a thing. Yeah. At Brazilian barbecue places. Not all, but at good Brazilian barbecue places, in my experience, they'll come around. It's a skewer. And they'll have a skewer filled with chicken hearts.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And then if you want the battle, give me three. And they'll put it in a bowl and they'll push it off on your

[Don La Greca]

plate or Fear Factor or that too.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, are they good? I actually, I used to enjoy them quite a bit. I will say that I enjoy the taste like chicken.

[Don La Greca]

The chicken.

[Alan Hahn]

See what you did, the.

[Don La Greca]

Look at you.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. It's like saltier. It's a. It's a salty piece of meat. Chicken liver. And it's. It's got a little like, you know, skin texture that you kind of beat.

[Don La Greca]

Tongue.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Well, you know, he's. John's close on all these things. I feel a little weird now in retrospect, having eaten it, but I did enjoy it.

[Don La Greca]

Pickle Ginger.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Don La Greca]

Why does he sound so happy and churned?

[Alan Hahn]

Guacamole. That's now. That's what I now don's not for it, but I am.

[Don La Greca]

I love me some hand churn guacamole.

[Caller John]

All the best to John, by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, speaking of hand churn guacamole, to me the most underrated line perhaps in the history of cinema.

[Don La Greca]

Cinema.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Is.

[Alan Hahn]

And you know. And you know it's serious because you can hear, like the operatic singing now coming.

[Don La Greca]

That would be.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a national.

[Don La Greca]

That'd be our national.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes. Is in the movie. The. One of the greatest films ever made, in my humble opinion. What about Bob? When Bob. When Bob is having dinner with the Marvins, right? And. And you remember the scene he's going crazy with every bite. He's making so much noise and it's making Richard Dreyfuss want to lose his mind. And Bill Murray's just eating every bite. And he's like, oh, my God. And then he goes, well, what's. What's the. What's the mom's name? Darn it, I can't remember her name. Mrs. Marvin. This corn. Is this hand shucked?

[Don La Greca]

What would that have to do with the taste of the corn? It felt like that whole movie that. That Dreyfus and Murray were almost like battling each other to see who could break character.

[Alan Hahn]

It's so they're both.

[Don La Greca]

It was unreal.

[Alan Hahn]

So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's so underrated. You never see it on.

[Don La Greca]

No, it's never on.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not. You don't stumble on it. And it's. Dude, it is one of the great comedies of all time. I watch it quite a bit, but that line just always sends me. Is this cornhan shots? What the hell does that mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want to bring in Anthony Pusick because he. I misunderstood what he said. Did you say all the best to John Stern? Yeah.

[Caller John]

John was on with Ricky Ricardo on the Fan this weekend and said that he had a heart attack in January in only the way that John can saying in January I had a heart attack. I'm fine now.

[Don La Greca]

Oh wow.

[Caller John]

But all the best to John cuz obviously, you know, friend of the show. So all the best, John.

[Don La Greca]

Hope he's doing well.

[Alan Hahn]

You said that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I had a feeling that I was the only one that caught it and I wanted to find out.

[Don La Greca]

I thought he said it in our ear because I gave him a nod of acknowledgment that I was aware of it.

[Alan Hahn]

I saw a headline about something with Sterling. I didn't realize that that's what it was, but glad that he's all right.

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

And sending John the best man.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And. And while we're at it, Ron Dugay, we've heard.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is battling cancer. So all the best to him as well.

[Don La Greca]

Saw that and he's struggling financially, needs help. So that's tough news.

[Alan Hahn]

Is there a way, is there like

[Don La Greca]

a site to give him help gofundme that he has shared?

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. So you can. There it is.

[Don La Greca]

I retweeted the other day, but yeah, that was tough news to see.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. If you look it up, if you look up Ron Dugay GoFundMe page, it's the first thing that'll pop up is support Ron Duguet's fight against.

[Don La Greca]

And can you believe that someone actually. And again, what a shock ass cesspool that X and Twitter has become. Someone actually said can't believe this guy's asking for money. He made millions playing hockey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you really think so?

[Don La Greca]

Like brother, brother. Look at when he played.

[Alan Hahn]

Wait, wait, what years? What years was. When did he retire?

[Don La Greca]

Seventies to like he might have retired

[Peter Rosenberg]

in like 80 something.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Stop. Well, listen, people are morons. People are morons.

[Don La Greca]

It's just. But like how about just don't say.

[Alan Hahn]

And just lay out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They can't.

[Don La Greca]

Like, like that's the thing. The urge to just not say anything to 90. He played till 99.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don La Greca]

No way. He played till 19.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know he played with like the Gulls. He.

[Don La Greca]

He might have played like semi pro a little while.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like. And I. Because he was trying. He was like a player.

[Caller John]

So I don't know if this is entirely accurate. Of course it's a lot more.

[Don La Greca]

Just go to the hockey Reference.

[Caller John]

It's not Barton Collins. How much did that guy make Game.

[Don La Greca]

Oh no.

[Caller John]

But it's close. Would you guys like to take a guess?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, this is fun.

[Caller John]

At how much Ron Dugay earned in his lifetime as an NHL player.

[Alan Hahn]

As an NHL. How many years? I need to know. Years first, please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm punching it up. I'm punching it up.

[Alan Hahn]

Just tell me years as a place.

[Caller John]

This site says 77.

[Don La Greca]

Okay.

[Caller John]

To 89.

[Peter Rosenberg]

89.

[Don La Greca]

89.

[Alan Hahn]

So we have, we have a 12 year run in the NHL from 77 to 89.

[Don La Greca]

Most guys made like.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no, no, don't. Let's not even. Once we talk about math, it'll make it too eas. All right, let's, let's. I'm going to say that during the

[Don La Greca]

course of his career, I'm going to go 2 million.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going to go 975,000.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's under.

[Don La Greca]

I would think you think it's under a million.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, because. All right, he was with the King because the reason 82 stuck in my head. 82, 83 was his last year with the Rangers before he got traded to Detroit.

[Don La Greca]

Detroit, right. So broke my sister's heart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's possible. Then he, then he went back to the rangers in the 80s and they were probably throwing some money around. He was a king in 80.

[Don La Greca]

80.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he might have gotten to, to the millions by the late 80s, maybe. I'll, I'll say he made an even 2 million.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going under both of you.

[Caller John]

So according to this website, Ron Dugay in his lifetime made $2.6 million.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, damn it.

[Caller John]

And which would have equated to 8.6 million in today's dollars. But keep in mind, that was 2.6 million and it was 89.

[Don La Greca]

Right.

[Caller John]

So it's a long time ago.

[Alan Hahn]

And if you didn't.

[Don La Greca]

And you're very young as well.

[Alan Hahn]

And did you invest? Well, because you're a pretty young guy when you retire now, you have kids to take care of, you have life, you send kids to college, all the things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's crazy. And 31 when he retired.

[Alan Hahn]

And that, by the way, that 2.6 million, that's pre taxes. That's your salary for that time. That doesn't include.

[Don La Greca]

Anyway, like, like the football. Those who just want.

[Alan Hahn]

Shut up and just go to the GoFundMe page and support people in need.

[Don La Greca]

Either, either, either support it or just scrolling. You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

They can't.

[Don La Greca]

It's, it's, it's just crazy. So, Don Ryan Lambert, you're a fan rooting for this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I mean I, I rooted for a guy over 100 miles per hour. I don't care what he eats. He eat his Own hair. As long as he's throwing strikes, I don't care. Like you say, root for it. If he can get. Get guys out, I don't care what he.

[Don La Greca]

Relief pitcher. I just thought the Mendoza quote would have sent you off the edge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, because you're suggesting these, like, wild thing for major league.

[Don La Greca]

Right? Heaters from the heart. I mean, who can't love that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Heaters from the heart. That's. Feel that.

[Alan Hahn]

That's amazing.

[Don La Greca]

That, that. I mean, that. That's there. There's your. There's. That's a rom com. Heaters from the heart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, that feels like an 80s.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Heaters from the heart. That Don, you know what that is?

[Don La Greca]

That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's like. That's like the dugout in a 1982 baseball game. Just a few guys sitting around smoking some heaters. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I was thinking with the, you know, like, straight from the heart.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Was that Brian Adams? Yeah, there you go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How old is Brian? Because he looked like he was 47. He did. Like 1984.

[Alan Hahn]

Brian Adams probably 73.

[Don La Greca]

He had that face like his face had. But the pock marks and stuff. Right. So he always looked older than he really was.

[Alan Hahn]

Unfortunate.

[Don La Greca]

He still is a handsome man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He still fought. I think women fought through.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, you think so? I think they battled through.

[Alan Hahn]

Brian Adams.

[Don La Greca]

Brian Adams to you and me.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I'm so sorry, Mr. Adams. 66.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

He's a good baby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but he looks 66 then.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the thing. It's a hell of a run.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He looked. I'm sorry, he looked a little older. But, you know, there are a lot of reasons why you look older.

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

This is up there for me in my Mariah favorites. This is way up there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How many hits though, for Mariah? No, don't say. Oh my God.

[Don La Greca]

No, no. A lot.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. So how many? How many? So there really are a lot, right? Because her early now her first album hits are practically forgotten. Like vision of love was a huge song at the time and. And when she was like this, you know, brand new artist and I think one best new artist. But like those, that first album of hits kind of have disappeared, Don. Because as the years went on she had these other like bigger smashes. Don't worry, I'll look it up for you. I'll help you out.

[Don La Greca]

Why would I need to be able to type on a computer in.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't get upset.

[Don La Greca]

Why would that be necessary?

[Alan Hahn]

Obviously. Obviously. Hero is gigantic.

[Don La Greca]

I'm going to throw this thing across. Across the room.

[Alan Hahn]

Always be. My baby is huge.

[Don La Greca]

Great song.

[Alan Hahn]

One sweet day is like the death anthem with boys to men.

[Don La Greca]

It really is. Can we.

[Alan Hahn]

Death. Well, I mean, you know what I'm saying though it is so sad. It's just heartbreaking.

[Don La Greca]

We could do better. Don't worry about it.

[Alan Hahn]

Her cover of. Her cover of Michael Jackson's I'll be there from the unplugged. You remember that?

[Don La Greca]

Tremendous.

[Alan Hahn]

That was gigantic. Then you have all the like the up tempos, the honey, the fantasy remix that I just played.

[Don La Greca]

Honeys.

[Alan Hahn]

All of this we're saying without getting to Dream lover, which I love. And then all of that is just to. Before you get to that she made an absolute top Five all time Christmas song. Yeah, that she wrote. All I want for Christmas is not some song written in 1955. It's written by Mariah Care. It's.

[Don La Greca]

It's for Stephanie. It's not Christmas until that song plays.

[Alan Hahn]

That's. That's. I mean, like Don, at this point, you could argue there's not a bigger pop culture Christmas song than All I want for Christmas. She's got some hammers.

[Don La Greca]

And where's she from? Peter?

[Alan Hahn]

She is from Long Island.

[Don La Greca]

That's correct. We only know greatness, Anthony.

[Alan Hahn]

You can't do All I want for Christmas anymore.

[Caller John]

Me and Jacob are on the same page here.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it's. It's.

[Caller John]

It's just too much now. It's not her fault.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Caller John]

Maybe it is her fault. I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

No, it's not her fault.

[Caller John]

But I. I can't do it anymore.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's. It's funny. I don't hate it.

[Don La Greca]

It's February.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah, it's February. You're done right now.

[Don La Greca]

We were tired of it in mid December. Okay, sure.

[Alan Hahn]

But on December 1, the day after Thanksgiving, it feels great.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, it's. It's just right.

[Alan Hahn]

You get to December 20th. It's a little crazy, but. No, Don, to answer your question, even though you checked out long ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, because I'm looking at myself.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you're looking up. She has. She has a nice.

[Don La Greca]

Don. Don's Don went to images.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, I'm looking at.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, my gosh. Remember, love takes time.

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Love takes time to heal when you're hurting so much can't believe that I was blind this man felt pain Let you go and that's all the first album that again, it's kind of been forgotten and it was huge at the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's hard to believe that all I want for Christmas is you only peaked at 2. Never got to 1 1.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm surprised he doesn't get to 1 every year.

[Don La Greca]

Every year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that was 94, so I can't believe it's at all. If it was a day you hit one. Against all odds. Hit one.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow. I don't even remember Against Odds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it a cover of against 39 top 40 hits with her or other people.

[Don La Greca]

Without you is the COVID right?

[Alan Hahn]

I was just guessing that against all,

[Don La Greca]

but without you is a cover, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. But she's also had, you know, like when you believe was with Whitney Houston once we day was with Boys to

[Caller Rose]

Men,

[Alan Hahn]

the death anthem. Right. Oh, her Luther is her endless love. She has An Endless Love cover. Fantastic.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know what you want with Buster Rhymes.

[Alan Hahn]

Well. Oh, I didn't even think about. I know what you want.

[Don La Greca]

Bad fingers. Yeah, yeah. Without you. That's that song that'll make you cry. That song.

[Alan Hahn]

Now she's. Listen, if you remove the fact that nothing about Mariah feels quote, rock and roll. No, she's an absolute, you know, just complete slam dunk.

[Don La Greca]

She's a juggernaut.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's.

[Don La Greca]

It's.

[Alan Hahn]

What she's done is.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Crazy town. She had. She had absolute smash is pun smashes. Now, listen, I wish that Mariah would occasionally not wear heels that require her to be carried by two people everywhere she goes. It drives me crazy.

[Heather]

Her.

[Don La Greca]

Her New Year's Eve here in New York City a couple of years ago. Oh, my God, that was something special.

[Alan Hahn]

She. She don. So she wears these heels. So for the last several years now, you'd think she's, like, not doing well. Like she's ill or 65. It's not that. She refuses to not wear these gigantic heels when she performs. You can't walk, so they have to walk her out. And I'm always like, don't you wear a dress and cover your feet and wear some sneakers so you can take a step?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But are you really wearing these shoes if you got to get carried around that.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's the thing to me, once you have to be carried around, I'm going, these aren't the shoes for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're not like trying to win the Masters in a golf cart. But.

[Don La Greca]

But isn't that the definition of what she is, which is a diva, which.

[Alan Hahn]

Which is sort of the. It's in the vortex. It goes all the way around, and it's rockstar. You see what I'm saying?

[Don La Greca]

Know what it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's like the other side mirror of what? A rock star.

[Don La Greca]

Yes. Yeah, she.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that the.

[Don La Greca]

Take all the brown M and M's out. Don't look in the eye. Destroy the hotel room rock star.

[Alan Hahn]

If she shows up, you're gonna see a mob of like 48 people and she's gonna go, oh, my God, it's Mariah Carey.

[Don La Greca]

And there's fussing.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, there's. Yeah, but that. It's so funny. I think I remember early Mariah so well, like when she was that fresh faced, brand new, beautiful girl who no one really knew, who Tommy Mottola had signed to Columbia and was like, I think.

[Don La Greca]

I think they were dating some. The Someday song.

[Alan Hahn]

That video we left Someday out.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, that Someday song. The video. She's like 18 and not looks 18.

[Alan Hahn]

And not to mention the. When she hits the super high.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Don't.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not going to do it.

[Don La Greca]

Not to break the glass.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm very tired.

[Don La Greca]

But yes, that's. That was the. That. I guess that was her thing. She started showing off the notes no one else could hit.

[Alan Hahn]

She's. The one thing is, I don't think she held on to it in the same way. Like, I think Whitney never really lost any of it. I do. I don't know that Mariah still is able to regularly live in.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

That world anymore. That's the thing with a voice that's. That has that kind of range and goes up that high.

[Don La Greca]

No, it's true. And then.

[Alan Hahn]

And then it's a killer about Celine Dion. Like I get so sad when I think about Celine Dion's health situation and that she's not able to perform. It's it that makes me really, really sad. Not that I'm like some Celine Dion fan.

[Don La Greca]

No. Imagine how she feels.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not a. I'm not a 64 year old mother. But.

[Don La Greca]

Or.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or our pinhead suit.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow. No. John Winthrop's only concert. I know one concert in history. Whose grandmother is he? It doesn't make any sense.

[Don La Greca]

Or whose grandmother did he go with?

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[Alan Hahn]

See, now that's an interesting thing we never thought of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's an interesting story that could save the day, Mr.

[Alan Hahn]

Steal your grandma.

[Don La Greca]

At least there was a purpose to this. This trip. Do we have enough time for Al Steinbrenner?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

We also have so many people here.

[Don La Greca]

We do. That's what I mean. I'm kind of balancing that.

[Alan Hahn]

You want me. Do you want me to hit Hal on enn?

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's talk to people and I'll hit

[Don La Greca]

how I think Hal because I don't want it to just be a quickie, as they say.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to get some time?

[Don La Greca]

I think we need some time with this.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. All right.

[Don La Greca]

You know what I mean. So instead, let's talk to people. And you know, our good friend Heather has a Mariah recommendation, among other things. Hey, Heather, where you been?

[Heather]

Hey, guys.

[Don La Greca]

Hello.

[Heather]

Just been busy. But I saw Don last night at the game. I was able to grab him for a quick second. I still listen to you guys every ride home. But I told Don, I said I haven't caught in because I tried to call in for topics that I feel I am knowledgeable.

[Don La Greca]

Bully. Okay, okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is one of them.

[Heather]

Yes. So you guys are talking about Mariah Carey and.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right.

[Heather]

Peter would probably know about this. So I think one of her really good songs is the My all remix that she does with Lord Tariq and Peter Gunn.

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Alan Hahn]

I actually, I gotta tell you, I don't remember the remix of Lord's Rec and Peter Guns. I just remember my all.

[Don La Greca]

Now we have to find it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'm gonna look.

[Heather]

It's really good. You have to. Have to look it up. I think that was around the time, you know, she. I think she was recently divorced. And I remember, like, the CD cover. She's wearing, like, a Gucci bralette and her hair is, like, really big. And I think she was, you know, doing, you know, trying to branch out or whatever. But anyway. And then also, too, I just heard you talk about that she always wears those crazy heels. I read an article once that she is so used to wearing high heels all the time that even when she is home and she's barefoot, she walks on her tippy toes.

[Alan Hahn]

No. Okay, that's insane. If that's true. That is wild.

[Don La Greca]

Heather. Heather, how was it when you filmed my cousin Vinnie?

[Heather]

It's so funny that you guys say that because we always laugh at home. And I say all the time, I'm like, oh, my gosh, if they do a play or if they're gonna do like a part two of that, I will go up against Marisa Tomei for her own part.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You really.

[Don La Greca]

I need you to give. To deliver the line. You know the line I'm talking about. Stomp the foot. Give me the line.

[Heather]

Okay, wait, no, that one's not my favorite. So I'll do this one. Imagine you're a little doe idea. You get thirsty. You see a brook, you put your little clear deer lips down to the cool, clear water, and bam. A freaking bullet hits you in the head and your brain laying on the ground in bloody pieces. Now I ask you, you think she gives a crap what kind of pants the son of a. Who shot him a. Wow.

[Don La Greca]

Yes, Heather, that was brilliant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm glad you went that out. That was a nice pivot.

[Don La Greca]

That was so good, Heather. So good. Thank you, dear. Terrific. That was. All she had to do was. My biological clock is ticking. Listen, we would have been fine, but she delivered line by line. That was Wallace.

[Alan Hahn]

That wasn't a strange pull. That was a fantastic pull.

[Don La Greca]

We love Heather.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What was the name of the song with the.

[Alan Hahn]

That she was talking about my all remix.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't see it in the. In her list of Hits.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know if My all is making it to the top. She is. That's the thing. She has a lot of secondary.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, My All?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Got to four.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1998.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the regular mile.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, for sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not the. Not the one.

[Don La Greca]

A remake. But she said it's good, so we'll

[Alan Hahn]

give it a shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's check it out.

[Don La Greca]

Marissa Tomei says to do it coming

[Alan Hahn]

out of the next break. We want to hear her song.

[Don La Greca]

All right. Rose is in the car. Rose.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Caller Rose]

Fellas, how you doing?

[Don La Greca]

What's happening?

[Caller Rose]

Good evening. First off, number one, Don. Congratulations on the Devil's job. Love you. Been listening to you forever.

[Don La Greca]

Thank you.

[Caller Rose]

Han. Been listening to you since Han and Humpty Rosenberg. I've been listening to you since I was, like, 13. So, number one, I just wanted to say, Don, the Devils are doing their thing, so congratulations to that. I want to get Han's take on how you feel about the Knicks going into the playoffs. How you feel. Because I don't know about you, but clearly they're not better than the Jets. And then one more thing to bring back for Rosenberg. Debbie Duhaim is the only person that says Van Wyck when you guys were bringing up Van Wyke, but Debbie Duhane is the only person. Because I listened for the rest of the day, she's the only person that says Van Wyck. So if anyone's not going to correct anyone, are you guys willing to correct her? And you guys have a good day, man. I'm so glad to be on the show. Appreciate you guys all the way.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you, man.

[Don La Greca]

Great call.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a morning show thing. Rick and Dave are gonna have to do that.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, they have to handle that. You know, Dave's a stickler for being correct. Right. Correct enunciation and everything like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He might check out during traffic. I'm just gonna.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, yeah. I could have.

[Alan Hahn]

And he doesn't even notice. No, that's not. That's not Dave. I. I bet he's locked in.

[Don La Greca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Iron Maiden's got to go in if Priest is in. That's what I'm saying.

[Don La Greca]

All right. You're saying that you're on the record, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's kind of like, you know, the who and Zeppelin. You not. It's. There's a little rivalry there, and they both got to go.

[Don La Greca]

Okay, well, who you taking out when it comes to the list?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Don La Greca]

Right. Well, Alex in Lindbrook wants to talk a little Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Alan Hahn]

Alex?

[Caller Rose]

Yes.

[Caller Alex]

Hi, Donnie. Rock and Roll hall of Fame is a disgrace. You know who's not in the hall of Fame?

[Alan Hahn]

Who's that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a lot.

[Caller Alex]

Meatloaf and Jim Stymon. How could they not be in the hall of Fame?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Batter the hell is one of the greatest albums ever. That's a no, Skip. I don't know, man.

[Don La Greca]

They.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, why did it take so long for Kiss? And I know Kiss wore makeup and. But they were iconic. It took forever for them to be able to. Yeah, I do think it is a joke. That's why I'd love to get Questlove on to see exactly how the process is going on there. Because you are.

[Alan Hahn]

You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a lot of. There's a lot of, like, why are we waiting so long for Phil Collins to be in?

[Caller Alex]

Is.

[Caller Rose]

It's great.

[Caller Alex]

And I'm worried about Mr. Han and Peter. I really am. Why you think Sade should be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, are you focusing on the word? We said you have to kind of get the word rock and roll.

[Don La Greca]

I'm kind of curious why he's worried about me when he doesn't have any idea who Sade is?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Do you really know Sade's body of work?

[Caller Alex]

I know who shot. I'm not saying she's not talented. I'm saying if you're talking about the Rockwell hall of Fame now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peter. Yeah.

[Caller Alex]

Does hip hop and rap have their own museum?

[Alan Hahn]

They're building a museum right now? Yes, but they don't have it. But they don't have its own hall of Fame.

[Don La Greca]

Want to separate me?

[Caller Alex]

It's going to Elvis Presley be if when there's a hip hop and rap hall, fish Elvis Presley be in there.

[Alan Hahn]

That you know that. But you know that comp. Doesn't make sense because rock and roll as a genre of music is all encompassing to blues and soul. If I met so many other pieces. Alan, please go.

[Don La Greca]

It's Rock and Rolls the tree, okay? It has many branches, many genres, many different. Like it has sub genres. Right? So, Alex, that's the point of rock and roll is that it is kind of the tree of which all other pop music has grown from since it became something. Right? So that's the whole point. Like, that's the point of it. Now I'm. Hang on, I'm not done. The point I'm trying to make to you is when it comes to Shade Day, if we already have a precedent set, which is why I said, well, she's really talented, do I think it makes sense? No, I don't. But because the precedent is now set, that's what it is. So don't look at rock and roll as guitars and drums and guys with long hair. Look at it as the tree and the branches that now create all different types, whether it's again, New Order, you know, to me, the New Waves side of it, the punk side of it. Hip hop is, by the way, a derivative of rock and roll. It absolutely is. So you have to just understand that that's not. When you think of rock and roll. You're thinking of it as something you grew up with that looked a certain way. Understand? That's not how it's being viewed when it comes to the hall of Fame. It's being viewed as a tree with now many branches that make sense.

[Caller Alex]

Just like the hall of Fame. If you have to think about a player, then he shouldn't be the hall of Fame. You got to think about the list that Peter gave the nominations. Only three, maybe four should be.

[Don La Greca]

But we said that. But Alex, we said that though we were saying there's some that can and some that can't. But we were naming acts and we were just reacting to the acts. We weren't saying all of them belong in it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it's very strategic because, after all, it's a business. Right. I've been to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. They're trying to get people to go. This used to be something that was done in Cleveland. Now they've opened a Barclays Center. They're trying to sell tickets. They're trying to get on television. Now you have a contract with them, Disney.

[Alan Hahn]

And by the way, it's. And I gotta tell you, Don, as a result of that, it's become a much better television show. It's a really good show, and you

[Peter Rosenberg]

gotta open it up. So you're. You're getting stuck on the name. But it's also a financial decision for them and also Dirty Little Secret Guys. And. And this is coming from a rock and roll fan. 30 years from now. Who are you inducting? Take a look at the musical landscape right now. Where is rock and roll?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, and they're going to need

[Don La Greca]

to sound or look the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they're going to need pop music,

[Alan Hahn]

because otherwise they're not going to be

[Peter Rosenberg]

able to induct anybody. Because once you put the Foo Fighters in who. They're probably already in, right? Because Paul McCartney inducted them a few years ago. Like, I know whenever we do this,

[Alan Hahn]

we'll get a call, well, this is

[Peter Rosenberg]

this act or that act, man. If I don't know who they are, and I'm. The average music fan tells me that they're not gravitating. You listen to top 40 music now. There's not a lot of rock and roll. It's a dying thing.

[Alan Hahn]

And how would the caller like it? How would the caller like it? If people looked at the origin of rock and roll, where it started from, right. To be very clear, the black artists who created the genre. And if people then looked all the way forward to a Led Zeppelin or the who and they went, those guys don't look anything like or sound anything like a Little Richard. How was that? Rock and roll? So you have to be willing to evolve this whole thing. It's been evolving since it was created.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can't get into the callers. I don't even think it's about race.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't mean race. I just think it sounds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nobody has a problem with Chuck Berry being in the hall of Fame, Right. If In Living Color was able to put Don.

[Alan Hahn]

That's not what I mean. I'm using. It's not about. It's not about the. It's not about the race of the people. It's about the fact that the music sounded and the way they dressed and acted on looked in some ways fundamentally different from where 70s and 80s rock was. But it's all rock and roll, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. But it is. But I can understand somebody go, really? Mariah Carey? That's not rock and roll. But the way I look at it is this. Like the top 40 was always about the biggest hits and most of them were rock and roll. And then you started to see other types of music come in there. And that's where you kind of opened it up. People get caught in the semantics of the rock and roll hall of Fame.

[Alan Hahn]

It kind of just sounds better than the pop hall of Fame.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's be hall of Fame or the music hall of Fame or something like that.

[Alan Hahn]

That's really it. You got to accept it's the music hall of Fame.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know.

[Don La Greca]

And that's why I tried to create the idea of just thinking that was a good.

[Alan Hahn]

The way you thought of it was really good. Because your whole tree and branch thing is rock and rolls the tree. But hip hop's a branch. It doesn't make sense to put the tree in the branch. But the branch is connected to the tree. But also.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, but that's a nice way of saying it. But also I could see somebody saying, you know, hip hop's not rock and roll. Country music is not rock and roll. There are certain things that do get divided. If I have a rock station, I'm probably not going to be playing.

[Don La Greca]

That's format.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's format. Not hall of fame.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But format is. What's the format? Format? Well, I'm a country music.

[Don La Greca]

Let me ask you this, let me ask you this because the problem with some hall of Fames and sports is that they only involve like professional. Right. But if you look at the basketball hall of Fame, it's a great example. It's not the NBA hall of Fame. So you could have college players who are great never played in the NBA. You could have players who played in overseas, Europe, never even came to North America, but they were iconic overseas. The women's play, women players as well. Like you're having. That's the idea that it's sort of the same thing, but it's a very different game. The better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the better comp would be putting rugby players into the Pro Football hall of Fame. Because if.

[Don La Greca]

If rugby came after football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know, I'm saying it's. I can understand people Saying, like, wait a minute. You know, if I'm going, you're going

[Alan Hahn]

to a rock and roll show and

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mariah Carey's the headliner. You wouldn't call it a rock and roll.

[Don La Greca]

No, you would not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get that. But. But it's also, again, a business decision because if you're my age, Alan, you might remember WHN.

[Don La Greca]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

1050 WHN, which we're on now, country station. They played a lot of Elvis. You know why? Because not a lot of country fans in New York, so they had to kind of branch out. And there was a little rockabilly about Elvis Presley, but it's like, you know what? People like Elvis. So we're gonna throw some of his songs on here, too, because, you know, we want people to listen to our station.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we want people to come to the show. So we're gonna have to open up.

[Alan Hahn]

Just requires nuance.

[Don La Greca]

Thought that's what it was.

[Heather]

That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all.

[Don La Greca]

And I want to explain to everyone, we all recognize the oddity that it is to have some of the names that we were reading today. All of us, the three of us are definitely music buffs. We love music.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

We all recognize the oddity of it, but we also understand that's. That's the time right now. That's where we're at. That's where we're at.

[Alan Hahn]

And we want to celebrate music and push it forward.

[Don La Greca]

So remember, thanks for listening to the

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