Hour 3: Fraud Alert Friday

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Fraud Alert Friday (Hour 3)

Date: December 12, 2025
Podcast: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg (ESPN New York)
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Episode Theme: “Fraud Alert Friday”—Live from ESPN New York’s holiday party, the hosts take on listener confessions and live cases about “fraudulent” fandoms in sports, followed by NFL analysis and their weekly picks.

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Episode Overview

This lively hour revolves around the perennial sports fan debate: What makes someone a “fraud” as a fan? In the recurring segment, “Fraud Alert Friday,” the trio reads emails and takes calls from listeners confessing to or accusing others of dubious sports loyalty. The show alternates uproarious judgments and playful banter before closing the hour with sharp NFL analysis and on-air picks for the weekend.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rod Strickland Appearance & LIU Basketball (01:33 – 02:49)

• Rod Strickland made a guest appearance, impressing the crew with his quick commitment to join the event and his involvement with LIU’s basketball program.
• Alan Hahn shares his LIU connection:
  “He’s a legend, and that's obviously my school… I just said, let me see who I can get here. The Islanders played last night... But Rod Strickland… within seconds of me sending it [text], 'yes, tell me when.' That's what he's about." (01:49–02:18)

2. Fraud Alert Friday – “Are you a Fraud?” Segment

(02:56 – 15:01)

• The Baylor/Washington dilemma (03:06–04:24):
  Listener Daniel confesses he played football at Baylor but would root for hometown Washington Huskies over his alma mater.

  • Rosenberg’s ruling:
    “He played. He played along RG3. They played in big games together… and he just happened to grow up in Washington, so he's rooting for the Huskies. Fraud.” (04:06–04:12)
  • Group consensus: Clear case of fraud.

• Ohio State grad, Maryland degree-holder (05:19–07:09): Listener’s wife grew up rooting for Ohio State but attended Maryland; she remains a devoted Buckeye.

  • Rosenberg: “No, but she is a fraud because, first of all, rooting for Ohio State before you even went to school… but then you went to Maryland, and now they're a division rival. I mean, I get it... but it's fraudulent.” (06:42–07:09)

• Jets Fan Adopts Lions as Backup Team (07:23–08:45): Gary from Hop Hog wants to declare himself “done with the Jets” and become a Lions fan.

  • Rosenberg: “That’s a fraud… He gave up on his team to go root for the Lions.” (08:43–08:45)
  • Gary’s confession—live on air—gets a unanimous “fraud” verdict.

• Giants Fan Raising Child as Eagles Fan (09:01–11:23): Isaac from Sunnyside presents his girlfriend’s best friend, a Giants fan, now raising her child as an Eagles fan due to her spouse.

  • Rosenberg’s nuanced ruling:
    “If you’re staying at home and your family’s going to Eagles games… I say no fraud. I think family stunning, guys. She still roots for the team.” (10:30–10:57)
  • The hosts debate but Rosenberg sticks to his “family first” verdict here.

• Trauma & Team Loyalty—Washington Capitals Listener (12:15–15:01): Listener wonders if it’s fraud to drop the Capitals due to family trauma and root for another hockey team.

  • Rosenberg:
    “If she decides to root for another team, even under those very unique circumstances, it would be fraud. If she decides to drop the sport, then it’s not fraud.” (13:41–13:53)
  • Don: “She can pick a new team in a different sport, but not the same one.” (14:19–14:30)

Notable Quotes

• “If a fraud had a stink, I'd smell him from a mile away.” – Peter Rosenberg, (03:50)
• “Happy wife, happy life”—as justification for sticking with family teams (11:26)

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3. Fraud on the Panel: Don Called Out (15:07–18:44)

• Alan from Unendale accuses Don La Greca of being a “fraud” for switching between being a Devils fan (even has the tattoo), supporting the Rangers as a broadcaster, and later returning to the Devils.

  • Don: Explains the difference between professional detachment and authentic fandom:

    “Because how would it look if I was banging on the glass when the Devils eliminated the Rangers in the conference final? And oh, by the way, where’s my check? No, that doesn't work.” (17:13–17:22)

  • Panel consensus: Working in sports sometimes demands professional detachment—not fraud if roles require neutrality; resumes authentic fandom after job changes.

  • Alan Hahn: Shares similar experience, becoming neutral when covering the Islanders even though he grew up a fan, arguing that journalistic integrity trumps cheerleading (19:28–20:41).

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4. NFL Weekend Preview & Key Game Analysis

(26:07 – 34:05 and following)

• Big games on tap:

  • Lions vs. Rams:
    Stakes high for the Lions who are on the playoff bubble—“if they lose, [Lions] playoff percentage drops to 44% going into Week 16” (Peter, 26:55–27:12).
  • Bills vs. Patriots:
    “...if the Bills lose to the Patriots, they still have a 94% chance of making playoffs…” but winning is critical for any hope at the division (Peter, 29:54–30:06).
    • Don and Alan debate whether this is the biggest game, considering the implications for the Bills’ coaching staff and franchise direction.

• Jets & Giants: The Local Malaise

  • Both teams eliminated.
    “To do a whole holiday party on a Friday football and not mention the Jets and Giants… just shows how far we've fallen.” – Peter Rosenberg (32:28–32:55)
  • Discussion of the agony of being a Jets/Giants fan, with comic relief comparing the misery of attending MetLife to sitting “in your own filth.”

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5. Weekly NFL Pro Picks

(40:34 – 50:23)

• Standings Update:
  Don in first (21–21, 40 points), Hahn second, Rosenberg trailing but mathematically in the running.
• Notable Picks:
  • Peter: Giants over Commanders (1 pt), Niners to cover vs. Titans (2 pt), Eagles to cover vs. Raiders (3 pt).
  • Allen Hahn: Packers over Broncos (1 pt), Steelers over Dolphins on MNF (2 pt), Patriots over Bills (3 pt, “snow globe” potential).
  • Rosenberg (pivots his picks to avoid duplicates): Chargers to cover vs. Chiefs (1 pt), Lions to cover vs. Rams (2 pt), Cowboys to cover vs. Vikings (3 pt).

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Memorable Moments

• “If a fraud had a stink, I’d smell him from a mile away.” (Peter Rosenberg, 03:50)
• Listener live “conversion” from Jets to Lions fandom, judged as fraud on air.
• The panel’s “on trial” sessions, particularly Don’s defense of professional neutrality versus fandom.
• Alan’s “strap off the shoulder,” lightheartedly describing a “sexy game” matchup (Bills-Patriots).
• Colorful metaphors about MetLife Stadium:
  • “MetLife isn't a cool place to go... sitting in your own filth is all part of the experience.” (36:44–36:52)
• Hosts openly debating and joking over rules for making picks, showcasing their friendly competitiveness.

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Important Timestamps

• 01:33–02:49: Rod Strickland and LIU basketball discussion
• 03:06–08:45: Fraud Alert Friday emails—college football/loyalty cases
• 09:01–15:01: Live fraud cases from callers (backup teams, family allegiance, trauma and sport switches)
• 15:07–18:44: “Fraud” call-out on Don’s fandom; hosts discuss professional neutrality
• 26:07–34:05: Lions/Rams and Bills/Patriots game previews; state of Jets/Giants
• 40:34–50:23: On-air weekly NFL pick segment

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Summary

This episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg epitomizes the high-energy spirit and camaraderie of New York sports talk. “Fraud Alert Friday” delivers engaging, sometimes riotous debates on what it means to be a “real” fan—in a city, for a team, in your own family, and even as a professional broadcaster. The hosts let listeners into their world with an unfiltered, often hilarious take on sports loyalty, New York fandom, and the heartbreak (and fleeting hope) of Jets and Giants fans—capped by cheeky, sharp analysis of the week’s NFL matchups.

Transcript

[Don Allen]

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[Podcast Announcer]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Podcast Announcer]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers. Did you or someone you know participate in fraudulent fan behavior?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

[Podcast Announcer]

Is your friend a fraud?

[Don McGregor]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Podcast Announcer]

Are you a fraud?

[Don Allen]

What is fraud now?

[Podcast Announcer]

Let's ask Don McGregor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Screw. Go scratch yourself.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, yeah, baby. Fraud alert Friday here from the holiday party. If we have anyone with any major fraud questions. If you have a question of fraud, fraudulence, and you're here at your mother's house.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yep.

[Don McGregor]

Feel free to come over here to the front and line up. We'll try to get you on. See if we can take a couple of fraud questions. But by the way, first of all, before we even get into fraud Friday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Allen.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yes, sir.

[Don McGregor]

Big score with Rod Strickland. That was tremendous.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh, by the way. Well, I'll talk to you off there about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Interesting.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Good, good, good stuff. Good stuff.

[Don McGregor]

He. But that's a great guest, right?

[Unidentified Co-host]

Trying to link you guys.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, I'm a big.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You're good. Oh, yeah. Done.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a.

[Don McGregor]

That's a quality guy. I just like.

[Unidentified Co-host]

He is, though.

[Don McGregor]

Think what he.

[Unidentified Co-host]

And I'm again, this is not a drop or any of this stuff. I just want everybody to understand we're here. He's Long Island University. We're on Long Island. He's starting a program, but he's also a legend, and that's obviously my school. So we've had a connection over the last couple of years. And all I did was say, let me see who I can get here. The Islanders played last night. They've got an event tonight. We were hoping to get an Islander player here, but they've got a lot going on. That's a tough thing. But Rod Strickland, I sent him a text and I just said, are you around? I know you're playing at home on Saturday. Would you be willing to come out and to the show like within seconds of me sending it. Yes. Tell me when. That's what he's about.

[Don McGregor]

And then he shows up, and then.

[Unidentified Co-host]

He'S buried in traffic. Are you kidding me?

[Don McGregor]

And then. And then he's just interesting and support.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Him and the LIU men's basketball program.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, I'm in. LIU is my new. LIU is my new spot.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah. Want to get them to the tournaments? We have a reason to be excited about them. Like March, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

For sure.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Let's do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he was great, so God bless.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Him, and it means a lot to us to make he made an effort like that, and so we'll always support him.

[Don McGregor]

All right, here we go, guys. Fraud alert Friday. Dhrespn gmail.com. here we go. Hi, Dhr. I graduated from Baylor University.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don McGregor]

And was a member of the football team with Peter's favorite, RG3.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay. He's a teammate of RG3.

[Don McGregor]

Pretty impressed. That's a fun run they had there.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah. Great school.

[Don McGregor]

That team lit it up. However, I grew up in Seattle and have always loved Washington Huskies football.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Always.

[Don McGregor]

I realized today that if UW played Baylor in a meaningful game, I would root for the Huskies. Am I a fraud? Daniel?

[Unidentified Co-host]

He's got blood in the ground.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, take a drink. He's got blood in the ground.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Blood in the ground.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a fraud.

[Don McGregor]

Call it fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If a frau. It had a stink, I'd smell him from a mile away.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You'd smell him from Washington.

[Don McGregor]

He played.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's alum. Not one of these, like, yo, yo boosters that, like, went there for a semester. It's like, I want to win show by money. He played. He played along.

[Don McGregor]

RG3.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They played in big games together. And he just happened to grow up in Washington, so he's rooting for the Huskies. Fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

How is he even asking that question?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Unidentified Co-host]

Do you think he only wanted to flex that he played at Baylor?

[Don McGregor]

I mean, maybe to say it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What was his name?

[Don McGregor]

We have a. We have a Daniel.

[Unidentified Co-host]

All right, Daniel. Fraud.

[Don McGregor]

We have a. We have a lot of college fraud questions.

[Unidentified Co-host]

For some reason, we love college fraud.

[Don McGregor]

Good afternoon. My name is Joe. I'm originally from Queens. I now live in North Potomac, Maryland. By the way, I didn't know that we separated Potomac into North and other places.

[Unidentified Co-host]

When did they. When did they separate? What was this?

[Don McGregor]

I. I didn't know there was a battle of north.

[Unidentified Co-host]

What is the line of demarcation?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like don't stop believing South. Detroit. There is no South.

[Unidentified Co-host]

There's No South Detroit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, you couldn't find something else.

[Don McGregor]

That could run, by the way, and that you've looked into that no one calls it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've been told by people, everybody says.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That there's no South Detroit. It's Windsor. Windsor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, there's probably a South of Detroit, but it's not. There's nothing called South Detroit.

[Unidentified Co-host]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is there a South New York City?

[Don McGregor]

I know. I guess that maybe it may be Staten Island. Maybe this person means, like, north of Democracy Boulevard. I don't know. Which is a random street in Bethesda.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Very seated.

[Don McGregor]

My wife and I love listening to Fraud Alert Friday. She wants to make sure she's not a fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh, boy.

[Don McGregor]

She's from Ohio. She's a big fan of the Ohio State University, of course, since she was a kid. Proper name, but. Oh, this is tied into our show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love it.

[Don McGregor]

But she attended the University of Maryland for her degree because of me and is still in the Army. I'm retired now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But she went to Maryland for her degree because of you. That's.

[Don McGregor]

That's what it sounds like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Followed him to Maryland.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think I'm gonna go to Maryland because Peter Rosenberg went there. No offense.

[Don McGregor]

She attended Maryland, but she still. Still cheers heavily for Ohio State, especially their football team. She's heard of you ruling fraud in cases of people that attended a certain university, but a fan of another.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Don McGregor]

Judge legreca is my wife. Of fraud. I'd like to add, by the way, as a lawyer here, that in the modern era that we live in now, not only is Ohio State another school, this is a divi. A conference rival.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rival, yes.

[Don McGregor]

Now, so she's from Ohio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don McGregor]

Went to Maryland.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don McGregor]

I said, I don't care. I'm still Ohio State all day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just want to call her a fraud for going to Maryland because of you.

[Don McGregor]

So either way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but she is a fraud because, first of all, rooting for Ohio State before you even went to school. I mean, I get it. They're big time over there, right? That's almost like a professional sports franchise. Certainly they know if you're from near Columbus.

[Don McGregor]

I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get it. But then you went to Maryland, and now they're a division rival. I mean, I get it, Peter. It doesn't stink to high heaven like the previous emailer, but it's fraudulent.

[Don McGregor]

All right, sir, you want to get on Fraud Friday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, let's do it.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm going to watch all the.

[Don McGregor]

I'm going to pass you the headset. Let's not try to cheat a little bit. Oh, we have a microphone over there. Sorry. We have an actual. We have a microphone for you. Sorry, buddy. All right, go ahead.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Let them have a mic. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Succeed on the line.

[Don McGregor]

What's going on, guys?

[Unidentified Co-host]

What's going on? Name, name. And where you from?

[Don McGregor]

I'm Gary from Hop Hog. Gary.

[Unidentified Co-host]

All right, hot pug.

[Don McGregor]

All right. Judge McGregor. I am a long suffering New York jets fan, okay.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Who is much like Alan everybody is.

[Don McGregor]

I have a best friend who lives in Michigan. I have adopted the Detroit Lions as my backup team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

[Don McGregor]

Because I've just been done with the Jets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Backup.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Backup.

[Don McGregor]

Am I a fraud?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you say you're done with the Jets. You're not going to root for them anymore?

[Don McGregor]

It's getting to the point, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you officially dumping the jets and becoming a Lions fan? I need to know right now.

[Don McGregor]

Declare gun to my head.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh, he's out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I understand. It makes sense, but that. That's a fraud.

[Don McGregor]

It's plain and simple. Gary from Hapa.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now do I understand? Do I understand, Gary? Do I actually agree with you?

[Don McGregor]

I mean, the proof is in the pudding.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Still fraud. And oh, by the way.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just in time. Jump on the Lions bandwagon. They may not make the playoffs either.

[Don McGregor]

I know. Now you just right as they're as. They may not no longer be the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lions because that's fraud. Fraud, fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Are we saying this is fraud with cause?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, this is fraud, fraud, fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Just fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He gave up on his team to go root for the Lions.

[Unidentified Co-host]

He just did it here, by the way, live on radio.

[Don McGregor]

I respect YouTube, Gary. Thank you very much. You're very welcome, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you. Past the mic.

[Don McGregor]

Pass the mic to the next gentleman.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Who'S up next year. Fraud alert Friday.

[Don McGregor]

All right, what's your name, sir?

[Caller Isaac]

All right. Isaac from Sunnyside.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Sunnyside. Okay. Yeah.

[Caller Isaac]

Don Allen. Peter. It is an honor for me to bring my case before the court.

[Don McGregor]

All right, thank you.

[Caller Isaac]

So this is actually about my girlfriend's best friend. And thank God my girlfriend's not tuned in, at least I hope she's not. But my girlfriend's best friend grew up a Giants fan, watched Giants games with her dad, still claims to be a Giants fan. Still claims them a couple of years ago, married a lady. Great lady.

[Don McGregor]

We love ladies.

[Caller Alan]

We love the ladies.

[Caller Isaac]

But. But unfortunately, said lady is an Eagles fan and they had a kid about a year ago and the kid is now being raised to be an Eagles fan dressed in Eagles gear all the time on the Instagram. Stories going to Eagles games.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh, boy.

[Caller Isaac]

And. And I just haven't heard boo about the Giants from this friend since then.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Zipper key. So, yeah, the zipper key moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We don't know. She gave up on the Giants. She just had the kid become an Eagles fan.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And she's attending Eagles game.

[Caller Isaac]

She's attending Eagles game. She's very nonchalant about this kid being an Eagles fan. Just in Eagles gear all the time. So it's. It's troubling to say the least.

[Don McGregor]

I, I very. I would say very troubling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, very troubling.

[Caller Isaac]

So Judge Laca, is she.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I need a little bit more information because she still root for the Giant.

[Don McGregor]

She still.

[Caller Isaac]

She still claims because root for the Giant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, your significant other is an Eagles fan. Your child now is a Eagles fan. You want to do family things together, you're an Eagles fan. Chase, you become Dave Rothenberg. If you're staying at home and your family's going to Eagle games, I, I say no fraud. I think family stunning, guys. She still roots for the team, but I. I'm going to say no fraud. I need a little bit more information.

[Unidentified Co-host]

This. This is a historic, stunning moment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think it's that stunning.

[Don McGregor]

I'm surprised by it. I didn't expect it, but I. It doesn't mean it's wrong.

[Unidentified Co-host]

We need to deliberate. All right. This is. This is stunning.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay. There's no deliberation after the rulings, man. If you want to appeal, that's fine. Go deliberate amongst you.

[Don McGregor]

Talk about it all you want.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I gotta tell you, the appeal is very long, and it's like a 99.9 failure rate. But go ahead and try if you like, but I'm gonna say no for.

[Caller Isaac]

Okay, I accept the judge's ruling as much as this, to my personal dismay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guess I get what you're saying, but, you know, happy wife, happy life. It's more about your child and how. But she didn't give up on the Giants.

[Don McGregor]

Right?

[Caller Alan]

Well.

[Don McGregor]

Well, now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the information was presented to me. I asked the question.

[Don McGregor]

I never question you as a judge.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Unidentified Co-host]

But sucking up to the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Got a problem with me? You know what? We're going to have words.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I got a problem. I got a problem with the court system right now. Okay? I'm fighting that ticket. It's a big deal.

[Don McGregor]

I'll say you and judges in general.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Han versus the town of Huntington. Okay, so we're going to have. We're having it out.

[Don McGregor]

Well, by the way, guys, this is the ESPN New York holiday party. Live for your mother's house. Your mother's house, I should say, in Garden City Park, Long Island. Brought to you by Amazon Pickup Security Dodge and Spiked Aid. Made for big city social stamina. You guys want one more email? Of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who's asking that? No, I'm good.

[Don McGregor]

All right, Here we go, guys. Hi, all. After an interesting conversation with my boyfriend at the bar last night, we decided. Decided to bring this situation to you all for final judgment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But she's going to the bar with her boyfriend. Hey.

[Don McGregor]

I was born and raised in the D.C. area, and the only sports team I would routinely root for is the Washington Capitals.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Interesting.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Okay.

[Don McGregor]

Through the years, I found this was a way to spend time with my dad. Over time and situations, we have drifted apart and we are not in contact anymore.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is. This is.

[Don McGregor]

Let's take it, by the way, as three. As three fathers of daughters. This is feeling terrible right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sounds like a fraud daughter.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, my.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Accusations. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In the beginning, from her dad. Well, you don't know what happened.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Let's hear about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a good point.

[Don McGregor]

At the beginning of this season, I wanted to get back into hockey, but found trying to go to a Caps game or just watching it on TV was hard and stuff slightly triggering.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Huh.

[Don McGregor]

My boyfriend told me to just let another team if it helps, and get back into the sport. I told him I would be a fraud fan. And after listening to so much of DHR with him, I just can't do it. He insisted it's not. So. I bring this to you all for a final ruling. Can you switch to a sports team if one team triggers family trauma?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. I believe he's thinking, if she decides to root for another team, even under those very unique circumstances, it would be fraud.

[Don McGregor]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If she decides to drop the sport, then it's not fraud.

[Unidentified Co-host]

So she's got to just completely give up.

[Don McGregor]

So how about this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

She's allowed to give up. She's not allowed to become a fan of.

[Don McGregor]

She's from D.C. yes, but this team, the capital, she shared with her dad, who she no longer is a fan of. How about. And she loves this show. Obviously. It's a part of her life.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yep. Devils fan.

[Don McGregor]

No. She can't pick up another team. It makes her a fraud. She doesn't want to do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Unless it's Devil's fan.

[Don McGregor]

How about even though it hasn't been a good year, she jumps on board with your boy and becomes a fan of the Washington Commanders?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean. Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

Find a new spot. He still represents. It still represents your area.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We had different sport.

[Don McGregor]

It won't trigger you as much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We had Gary on.

[Don McGregor]

That's right. Sure we do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's going to give up on the jets to become a Lions fan. Fraud.

[Don McGregor]

Big fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If he came on and said, I'm just going to give up on the Jets, I'm done with football. No fraud. So it's the same thing here. If she is done with hockey, no problem. But if she converts to another and it sounds like she doesn't want to, sounds like her husband or boyfriend's a fraud. Have these discussions at the bar.

[Don McGregor]

All right, we're going to take one more from here in the building, sir. Give us your name and state your case.

[Caller Alan]

Yeah, my name is Alan from Unendale. Alan, the money truck.

[Don McGregor]

Alan, the money truck. What you got for me?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Coliseum.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don McGregor]

What's the fraud question?

[Caller Alan]

John is the biggest fraud.

[Don McGregor]

Oh.

[Caller Alan]

Don is the people's champ. Don is the people's champ.

[Don McGregor]

I love Don. We love Don.

[Caller Alan]

Love Don. But he's the biggest fraud ever.

[Don McGregor]

Okay.

[Caller Alan]

Don went from, I got a devil's tattoo, then I worked for the Ranger. I know it's old, but I'm saying I never got to it. I never got to press it.

[Don McGregor]

No, you get to have your moment.

[Caller Alan]

I never got to address it. Then he went from doing that, and then he works for the Rangers, and he's like, I want the Rangers to win. I'm a Rangers fan. Now I remember. I've been listening for 10 years.

[Don McGregor]

Plus, he never says Rangers.

[Caller Alan]

I heard it.

[Don McGregor]

A Rangers fan. He used the word Donald. Marco Legreca said, I am a Rangers fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're gonna need some more.

[Caller Alan]

He said he was this Ranger supporter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whatever he was, he was a supporter.

[Don McGregor]

Of people who put money in his wallet.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Caller Alan]

That's not wrong.

[Unidentified Co-host]

But just.

[Caller Alan]

I'm a Knicks guy.

[Don McGregor]

Yes, you are.

[Caller Alan]

If I work for the Nets, I'm still going to root for the Knicks, but.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Right.

[Don McGregor]

It.

[Caller Alan]

Teach his own. So Don for the Rangers.

[Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Don McGregor]

Okay.

[Caller Alan]

Worked with the Rangers, has a devil's tattoo.

[Don McGregor]

Yes.

[Caller Alan]

Stop talking about the devils for, like, 20 plus, whatever.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Right.

[Caller Alan]

And now works for the Devils again. Now he's the Devils fan again. I mean, you could point out frauds, but I kind of got to look at the. You know, you got. You got three fingers pointing back at you. You got three fingers pointed back at you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Three.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Now we take a vote.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, no, there's no Vogue. You're. You're a mess. Okay. Because if you can present evidence, right? No, this is the judge trying to let the lawyer, you know.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You need evidence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You need help.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You need evidence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You have no evidence. If you saw that there's a picture of me with a Ranger jersey or Ranger hat.

[Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or when I got a Ranger tattoo or something. I never said fed. Was I a supporter? I was a supporter of the team. I was calling for to win the game that I was calling.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the deeper they went in the playoffs, the more money I was able to put in my pocket. I wanted them to do.

[Don McGregor]

Now, now, now, you can't acknowledge, but you did, because of becoming a professional, you did let go to some degree of your Devil's fanship, Correct?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly. Because how would it look if it was banging on the glass when the Devils eliminated the Rangers in the conference final? And oh, by the way, where's my check? No, no, that doesn't work. That's not a life work.

[Don McGregor]

So you let go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You started working for the Nets. You wouldn't be able to prance around the offices with your Nick jersey, they'd let you go. No, I wouldn't hire you anyway. You're not qualified. So now. And by going and doing the things that I did, I ended up getting my dream job.

[Don McGregor]

Thank you, Alan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But even with me doing Devil games.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I admit I am now. I am now doing games for the team that I grew up loving.

[Don McGregor]

Are you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you call myself a fan. A fan. But are you true sense of the word.

[Don McGregor]

Are you falling like back in love a little bit with the team or is it still like professional and it's nice and there's nostalgia attached to it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's professional because I grew up a fan of this team. So the nostalgia and working with Ken Danico and Bryce Salvador and doing trivia, talking about times I was a fan, but I am giving the same attention and rooting in the same way I did when I did the Rangers. Like, it's my career, it's my job. It just happens to be with the team that I grew up rooting for. But am I have a Devil jersey and a double hat on or anything? I'm. I guess I am. I was always a fan of the team. I had to put it aside. Now I don't have to put it aside anymore. But it's not the same as before I started doing hockey.

[Don McGregor]

We've heard people call this out before. And I would. I would side against you if I. If I thought they were right. Got it. But they're not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But how about Mr. Contrary?

[Don McGregor]

Who? What do you mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he fights me on.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Well, when there's a right rulings.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you agree with me then.

[Unidentified Co-host]

This I agree now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You've always told you you understand this because you grew up a Nick fan.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you never had to do games for other teams. But when you're doing the job, you wouldn't call yourself a fan. You want the team to do well, but it's hitting completely different. Alan Hahn.

[Unidentified Co-host]

No, the truth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nick coverage as opposed to when you were growing up.

[Unidentified Co-host]

The truth is. All right. So the first professional sports beat I ever was given.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, get your drinks ready.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Drinks ready. But it was the Islanders.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, you guys know that he did the Islanders.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That's one of my first teams as a kid that was like the team. And the minute I got that job, I stopped being a fan. Because what was most important was that I had a job to do because I never wanted to read that kind of coverage where it's all just pom poms and roses. And we especially that year, that era, because that team, the franchise was a mess. It was more about doing the job right the way I would have wanted to. Like when I grew up reading people who covered the team, I wanted it covered that way. So you stop that. You, you're more about the story and what's important and you're focusing on that. You're calling the game. You're not calling the game hoping for them to win because it matters to you that they win. You're calling the game looking for like the most exciting thing that's going to happen. Whatever's happened, you don't know what's going to happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I want them to win. Well, I mean, of course it's best under a difference.

[Unidentified Co-host]

The deeper the team goes, the better it goes for you in a playoff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know if I'd understand, understand this If I was 18 year old Don Le Greck. It's just, it's different and I can't expect people to understand it because they're not walking in my shoes. That's not what they do for a living.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You'll know it when you ever do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's the thing.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You won't know it and a fan won't understand it until they're put in that situation where you get your dream job and now all of a sudden your whole mind, you're not wired the same way anymore. It's the reason why I never wanted to cover the Yankees. I never ever wanted to cover a Yankee game. Or do anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yankees.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I wanted one team that I could still have that sort of. I only know it as a fan. I don't know personally from covering it because it does ruin it as a as a fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, so interesting stuff. Thank you for everybody participating the emails. Another successful fraud alert Friday. Thanks for everybody hanging in there. We usually do it at 4:30 but we are not going to delay Rod Strickland 5. Get back into the football of it. Unfortunately there's a lot of big games, none of them involving the jets or the Giants, although the Jaguars do need the game. But from a Jets and Giants perspective.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That spread is 13 and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does and it could be even more. God, because the jets, hey, you can pick them. We'll see if we'll have our picks coming up at 5, 45, P and N at 6. We're taking you right up until 7 o'. Clock. And this is ESPN New York's holiday party and it's coming to you from your mother's house in Garden City, Long Island. And it's brought to you by Amazon, Pickup, Security Dodge and Spiked Aid made for big city social stamina. All of it on ESPN New York.

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[Don McGregor]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Allen]

No.

[Don McGregor]

That they played, that they played together. It's been a few. I certainly remember a few.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But not only do you have the whole quarterback with Goff going up against Stafford, the Lions need this game, guys.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yep.

[Don McGregor]

Oh yeah, big time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They are in a lot of trouble if they lose this game. I want to be able to give you the analytics in, in just a second. But it's hard to believe there's a world guys where they can miss the playoffs. And if I'm, if I'm a betting man, I think, I bet they wouldn't make it. Is it that crazy a thought? I mean, first of all, that's going to be a very, very difficult job to go to LA and beat the Rams. The Lions right now are on the outside looking in for making the playoffs at the eight seed. Right.

[Don McGregor]

It's a big number though, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

However, they have a 54% chance of making the playoffs right now. So it's still above 50 and if they win, it jumps to 74. If they lose, you know, 44 chance of missing the playoff, of making the playoffs going into week 16. It is a big number. It's six.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's sizable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a tough spot man for the Lions. They are now, is that what you.

[Don McGregor]

Were saying for the biggest game?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I, is there a bigger game in your mind?

[Don McGregor]

I gotta, I got a sexy one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's bigger but section and the Rams, you got to figure the Seahawks are winning, correct? I mean the Seahawks are going to beat Indianapolis.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I want to hear which, which is.

[Don McGregor]

Your, you know where I'm going. It's right up your alley. It's right up the Allen Hahn alley. Bill's Pats, that's a, that's a sexy, sexy vehicle.

[Unidentified Co-host]

So it's so sexy I might dabble.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, I, I, I feel you, dog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't disagree in the sexiness. Although Rams lines is dead sexy.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Go. It is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if the Bills lose to the Patriots, they still have a 94% chance of making the playoffs if there's any hope of winning the division. The Bills have To win, yeah, but the Bills are going, Patriots are going. But for a chance for the Lions, the Detroit Lions, to miss the playoffs and to see it drop to 40%, 44% if they lose. The Rams, you know they want to be able to win this division.

[Don McGregor]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, the Seahawks are winning, so I just want to get this all right, from a divisional standpoint, if the Seahawks win, which you expect them to do, and the Rams were to lose, well, then all of a sudden, the Seahawks are in first place. So the Rams want it to be able to win the division. And looking at it, the Rams are still very much alive to get a buy. So the Rams have a reason to play, and the Lions might fall out of the playoffs. So to me, the bigger game as Lions, Rams. But you're right, Bills and Patriots is dead sexy.

[Unidentified Co-host]

There's a lot going on in that game. There's a lot with that game. I mean, there's a bit. It's a big Vrabel game. It's a big Drake May game. It's obviously a monstrous Josh Allen game. And on top of it, in the end.

[Don McGregor]

Go ahead.

[Unidentified Co-host]

We keep talking about coaching, don't we? And in Buffalo, you know, you start, like, you start losing the division now to this, what the Patriots are showing you they're becoming. And again, as a Jets fan, throwing up my mouth right now. But that's. That's where you're at. Like, this is where. How do you not. If you're. The Bills, start wondering, do we need to make a change?

[Don McGregor]

Alan, they should have been wondering that. That's.

[Unidentified Co-host]

It's.

[Don McGregor]

That to me. Well, because it's all put.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Josh, put the cape on for us again, please.

[Don McGregor]

I know it had to be. I'm sorry. McDermott should have been gone at least a year ago. And by the way, at least it's two. How many years can you throw at it with this quarterback? And now if this year at Don, if they somehow don't make the playoffs, it's over. It's the next day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they're not. Not making the play.

[Unidentified Co-host]

By the way, it could be a snow globe game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, we love that. That always.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, yes.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I got a nor' easter coming through and.

[Don McGregor]

But, well, you're not. You can't. You can't lock them into the playoffs.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who, the Bills?

[Don McGregor]

Yeah. I can't lock.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I said if they lose the game, they still have a 94% chance of making the playoffs.

[Don McGregor]

Oh, even after a loss, it's 94.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They got nine wins.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I mean, not making the playoffs isn't the issue.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. And they're not winning the division. Even if they win this game, they're two games back of New England. New England's already beaten the Bills. I, I, it would be a collapse for the page. Now the Bills have any hope of winning the division, they've got to win this game against New England. But I still don't think the Bills are winning the division. And I don't think they have to. Like, I think the Patriots with a buy, they become a dangerous. I, I, I'm not ruling out the possibility of the Bill still making a run as a wild card team. I don't increase their odds that dramatically. If they win the division, they're not getting a buy.

[Don McGregor]

Let me look at this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bills aren't getting a buy. Right. So they're gonna for Buffalo.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Isn't it just simply about winning?

[Don McGregor]

I know, I know.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Getting to a Super bowl in a year. We're in the afc.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I'm fighting you on what the bigger game is, is because the Bills have a safety.

[Don McGregor]

No, no, you're right about Don. I wasn't, I wasn't quite, I wasn't aware of what the Bills had coming up.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

Because the Bills should be concerned about a playoff spot. Except in their last few games after New England, two of the three are against Cleveland and the Jets.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

So it's just kind of a given. They're getting to 11.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

They got scripts and they'll get in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Co-host]

No, no. The bigger game. You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Detroit. Detroit's on it. Like the Detroit.

[Don McGregor]

But I'm more interested in watching the football of the Patriots.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh. And if you give me a snow.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Globe, then, yeah, that might give you a snow glob.

[Don McGregor]

And also I just. Here's the thing about picking it, though. Allen. Like, one part of me says, wow, you're giving the Pats points at home, the kind of year they've had. And then another part of me says, are the Bills, though, in the process of turning the thing on? And Josh Allen's going to show up and say, I'm going to show you guys how the I'm teach you Drake May, how we do this? This is how you close out a season. It. I just, I'm kind of scared of the game. I don't know which way I'm leaning. You're leaning, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I'm, oh.

[Unidentified Co-host]

So I'm lent.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not touching it.

[Don McGregor]

He's locked in.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm completely lent. He's what Leaned Lent.

[Don McGregor]

You know he's Lent all the way in Leaned.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I see what he's doing. You know, I bet. Well, just based on how filthy he was yesterday, I was trying to find a sexual.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You missed a good one. You missed a good one earlier though, Don. A really good one earlier.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Repeat.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Said it under my breath. I don't remember the. On the air. Yeah, yeah. Under my breath. Nobody heard it. It was a good one. It was really good.

[Don McGregor]

Nobody heard it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's apparently not.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Peter said something and I. It was really good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now maybe it's just me. I don't feel like I have to do this.

[Don McGregor]

Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. And I know the games don't mean anything for the jets and Giants, but like to do a whole holiday party on a. On. On a. On a Friday football and not mention the jets and Giants. I mean just as how far we've fallen now I'm going to dabble in Giants Commanders when we make our picks just because of feel not because of the game. They're both teams have been mathematically eliminated. I mean you get a Giant Commanders game in week 15. Both teams mathematically eliminated.

[Don McGregor]

Ridiculous.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now the jets, they're out. But the Jaguars still very much alive very much to win their division, make the playoffs. Do you. The jets are 13 and a half point though.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Pretty. Cook is starting a quarterback.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you give the jets any.

[Unidentified Co-host]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Any shot? You give him a shot to cover the number.

[Unidentified Co-host]

As you would say nun shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nun shot.

[Don McGregor]

You give him no shot to cover the number?

[Unidentified Co-host]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I do. I give him a shot to cover.

[Don McGregor]

13 and a half in Yakov. I. I give him a shot to cover.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

No shot.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Have you seen that defense?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but it's not about defense.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You see what they look like against Miami?

[Don Allen]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Tackle.

[Don McGregor]

No, they're not very good. They couldn't tackle anybody but I don't know they're not playing and they got.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Brady Cook is starting a court but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That to me how.

[Unidentified Co-host]

How could he be anywhere where the points coming from? Where are you getting points?

[Don McGregor]

All it could take is 17:7 is not a cover.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Listen, I'm not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's true.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm not picking that game because I don't trust it so I can't say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

With oh I'm not telling you to.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Pay full certainty so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're.

[Unidentified Co-host]

If you're asking me how do I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Feel Feel if this was old school Michael K where we had to take the locals, you would take the jacks.

[Unidentified Co-host]

By the way, that's a terrible rule.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's why we got rid of it.

[Don McGregor]

It was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It means we. We're in the job of entertaining our audience. I forced them to give on the locals.

[Don McGregor]

I think I brought a lot to the radio station.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This might be the biggest you killed.

[Don McGregor]

But I killed that. I was like this. It was like, you guys do this every week.

[Unidentified Co-host]

This is not fun. That was massive.

[Don McGregor]

I added the point system for better, for worse. It hasn't helped me much recently.

[Unidentified Co-host]

It is one of your greatest contributions.

[Don McGregor]

And you're getting rid of the locals because to be at this point in the year picking jets and Giants every week, it's like, why don't we just pick the CFL Euro League? What do you want to. What do you want to bet?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would love to do that.

[Unidentified Co-host]

12 and a half or 13?

[Don McGregor]

13 and a half, sir. That's two scores to you and me.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Touchdown win, TDS.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The jets just seem to stumble into these covers every once in a while, I guess.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I guess what I. With what I saw last week just really was sickening about how a no show at home when it comes to physicality. Physicality, Doc. Not technique, not skill. But it's physicality.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But what is home? Home to me is a detriment. Like at this point when the judgment Giants play at home.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

To me, that's a road game. Especially when they're playing a team like the Dolphins. Yeah, but like, all right, where you know the. Going to be a ton of do. They must. You know how demoralizing that must have been for the jets to be introduced and booed in their own building that whenever the Dolphins did something well, they're cheering for the other team. That's got to be so demoralizing.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm sure. I'm sure it is. But they also must be used to it because a lot of their games that they've played at home have had the right. Well, this is the popular teams that have come in.

[Don McGregor]

This is why I think in that spot you just would rather be on the road. Just me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I was just. I was just fighting when Allen said the way they played at home, I. I think home is a detriment.

[Don McGregor]

No home's work. I guarantee you. I hate that it was Dolphins at home last week. It was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Unidentified Co-host]

They were there playing it wearing the Gotham City gear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Don McGregor]

I guarantee you they will look more alive and focused this week in enemy territory than in what is basically like a weak neutral site at hotel weather.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I know. Come together. I'll tell you what. You say so you might. And maybe I'm all wet on this. And you can call, email, tweet. They might get more of a positive reaction in Jacksonville than in MetLife. Just because you might. Jet fans are still Jet fans. Like, you know what? I'd rather go to Jacksonville, hop on a flight. At least it'll be warm. Oh, I matter of fact, I guarantee it if it was Miami because, you know, Miami is a cool place to go.

[Don McGregor]

Miami. And no, there'll be some in Japan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That life's not a cool place to go. When it's 23 degrees. You're sitting in your own film.

[Don McGregor]

Your sentence went way too long. MetLife isn't a cool place to go.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Stop. Stop. Sitting in your own filth is all part of the experience.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, that. No, that is, that is Met life is sitting in your own. I'm telling you right now. I. One of the things I'm. I'm most excited about in life is that the commies are getting a new building. When you're in a bad building. We've been in a bad building since 97. You guys have been in a bad building since 07. But let's say whatever it is, first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of all, it's a football, football stadium. It could look nicer. It's not going to really change the experience even.

[Don McGregor]

No, no, that's. I disagree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no. Because I'm not gonna.

[Don McGregor]

Where it is, what it looks like. No parking lot set up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, that's the thing that you weren't going to get around that the parking lot setups, the parking lot set up. They could have, they could have had a, A replica of. Of Jerry's World if it's still going to take two and a half hours to get out.

[Don McGregor]

Remember, remember when they. Remember when they considered there was the conversation about the jet stadium in Manhattan?

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah, that didn't go well.

[Don McGregor]

That. But that would have bigger one. That's game changing. But you could take easy public transit to get there.

[Unidentified Co-host]

If I had a lot of issues. The. The other thing was. Is the eminent domain stuff next to city Field.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That you want to change a car. That changes karma but quick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you have disposable income, would you rather if you lived in Suffolk County, Long Island Drive to MetLife Stadium. How long that takes all of the traffic. Sitting in 23 degree weather in your own filth, taking another three hours to get home or get on a jet like a gentleman, fly to Jacksonville, Florida, tailgate outside in nice, you know, 75 degree weather, watch a football game in your shirt sleeves, have a nice steak dinner after and then fly home. What would you rather do if you had disposable income?

[Don McGregor]

I would rather go to Yaxton.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's why I think the reaction might be more positive in Jackson, the MetLife Stadium.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Our picks oh boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Don McGregor]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Don McGregor]

What's the game called?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Football.

[Podcast Announcer]

These are the Don, Han and Rosenberg pro picks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

D Football. There is football. Maybe not locally, I mean technically, but we're going to be picking other games. I have a feeling, although I am bullish on the Giant Commander game, and I wouldn't be surprised if Peter was as well. Let's take a look at the standings as I have to, unfortunately. Do we have to go over them because they are putrid. I am back to 500. I feel proud of that. I'm 21 and 21.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Look at you in the black 40.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Points after going two and one in a five point week last week. I'm in first place. Alan on just five points back despite being 18 and 24 point allocation. He went 30 last week and got six points.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Six big points, baby.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Quite the opposite for our buddy Peter Rosenberg. First of all, a record of 13 and 29, 27 points. So he is 13 points off the pace after it. Oh, and three, how back from zero point?

[Don McGregor]

How far back from Alan though?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You are only eight point back. So if you were able to flip flop and you get six and he gets zero then you're very much back in the game.

[Don McGregor]

A lot of time left folks. So I wouldn't even rule out catching. Don't at the lot of time look you just gave.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So since I'm in first place, I am going to. I am going to go first place.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I get to go first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did I say it that way, Peter?

[Unidentified Co-host]

I heard it that way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he heard it that way because let's face it, he's not feeling well and he's taking it out on me today.

[Don McGregor]

He's not feeling you in first place. He's not feeling you. That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He called me out in front of our audience that I'm like, no, not, not.

[Don McGregor]

He said you're not right today.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I just said you weren't like you weren't yourself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You keep those things to yourself. I think Peter agrees.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I wanted to. I wanted to get you the support you needed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, better help. You're talking about a little better help. All right, so I'm going to start with my one point play and I'm going to go with the Giants commanders. Let's face it, they're a mess with Mariota. They are especially defensively for whatever reason. And you know the Giants coming off a buy and this will irritate a lot of Giant fans. One on the top tank for the better pick and all that stuff. And I can understand getting phone calls on Monday. I can't believe they won that game. But I just think the commanders are in a mess and it's two and a half so you're basically picking a winner. I don't feel that confident in it. But still, my one point play, the Giants covering the two and a half, my two point play. You know, the Titans have played pretty well down the stretch for being one of the worst teams in Football. And they've got no reason to tank because they've already got their quarterback. Niners want this game. I mean they've got the Rams, they've got the Seahawks. There's no guarantee for the Niners to make the playoffs. And you know, 12 and a half points is a lot, but they've covered four straight games, the Niners. So they want the game. And I think they'll cover the 12 and a half at home against the Tennessee Titans. And my three point play. Another big number.

[Don McGregor]

Three three, three three three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the Eagles haven't played well.

[Don McGregor]

Eagles.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's really Jalen hurts not playing well because if, if they don't turn the ball over five times, they're crushing the Charger.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's be honest. So if they can cut down on the turnovers and are the Raiders going to take advantage? West coast team playing a one o' clock game in Philadelphia. Kenny Pickett's the quarterback for Vegas. I like the Eagles to cover the 11 and a half over the Raiders is my 3, 3, 3 point play. So let's go with the giants covering the two and a half. It's my one. Let's go with the Niners coming in the 12 and a half is my two and my three point play. Eagles covering the 11 and a half at home against Vegas.

[Unidentified Co-host]

All right, Allen, do I get to go now? Cool.

[Don McGregor]

He's that guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don McGregor]

No, he's that guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, you know what you just heard?

[Don McGregor]

He's a nozzle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If we decide to change that, that guy Thursday open, what he just said is going to be it.

[Don McGregor]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of it. A lot could be in that.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I love you both dearly. For my one point play. This is a very interesting game. When you guys are talking about the sexy games this weekend, you didn't mention this one. This has a little bit of appeal. A little bit right. Little, little strap off the shoulder. Packers at Broncos. Packers are actually laying two and a half here. They have been playing well of late. They are starting to now find that form. Maybe a Super bowl preview and it could be right. Broncos defense is fantastic. They are at home where they're always tough. Which is why for my one point play, I'm going to believe in Green Bay. Hey, I'm taking the Packers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Take a look at that. I, I had, I scratched it off.

[Unidentified Co-host]

But I. Oh, you are so you were thinking about it. We're of the same mind. So I will take the packers for my one point play. For my two point point play. The Dolphins are terrible in cold weather. Right?

[Don McGregor]

Dolphins.

[Unidentified Co-host]

But they came up to MetLife and played in some cold weather.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

In a semi pro game and they.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Dumped cold water all over the jets. That's not going to happen again. I think when you look at the Steelers on Monday Night Football at home, they never ever lose under Mike Tomlin. They never ever lose on Monday night Football. These are must win games. They need them. The Dolphins have had a nice run, but they suck in cold weather. Give me the Steelers. Lay the three. Monday Night Football 2.333.

[Don McGregor]

That was my. I have that one so.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Oh wow. Head to head, baby. All right. And by the way, good on you for staying honest about that because you could have changed it.

[Don McGregor]

No, no, I may. I may change it now. Oh, what do you mean?

[Unidentified Co-host]

So take it all back. So not good on you.

[Don McGregor]

Hold on. I'm saying I'm heads up.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I.

[Don McGregor]

You have the same thing. I don't want to take the same picks as you. I have a few games I like. That was what I was picking. But Don, if you're in my spot, do you stay that one or you pick another one you like?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You only have to honor yourself.

[Don McGregor]

Thank you.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I thought we have to lock these in beforehand but I guess we haven't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Got to the envelopes rules yet.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Rules are different for Don and for Peter, not for Alan. So last but not least, my three point play. This is the game I love. This is the game that I'll care more about than even the damn jet game. And that of course is Bill's Patriots up in New England.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Little snow.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Snow globe potential.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's his three point.

[Unidentified Co-host]

It's my three point play. And you know what? Mike Vrabel off of a buy at home.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well I might change at that level.

[Don McGregor]

I have to change too big.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Give me the one and a half. Give me the pants. Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Does Alan realize that he doesn't have to allocate points based on how good the game is? He's supposed to allocate points on how he feels.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm learning. I'm learning as we go. But no, I felt like that Interesting. Three stars or three point. I can't anyway. That.

[Don McGregor]

That's three.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That's my three. Three three three three point play. So one point play. Give me the Packers. I'll lay the two and a half. Two point play. Steelers on Monday night. I'll lay the three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Love it.

[Unidentified Co-host]

And then my three point play, the New England play Patriots. I'll take the point and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Three three, three point well, guess what?

[Don McGregor]

I'm at a point in the year where I can't just go with the picks I like if Alan likes them. Truthfully I had the Patriots. Truthfully I had the Steelers. But I also have other picks that I like and so I'm going to have to pivot here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don McGregor]

Because this is the situation you're in when you're down 13 to the leader and 8 to the second place situation. That is the situation that we're in. So I will make my one point play the Los Angeles Chargers to keep it close with the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Unidentified Co-host]

That's sneaky good.

[Don McGregor]

I. I'm sorry.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Stinky good.

[Don McGregor]

I'm not, I'm not saying the Chiefs can't win but I'm first of all in the best of circumstances. They never, the Chiefs never cover and never blowing away. Now this will be the week they will because I suck. But I like the Chargers to cover the six and a half points. I'll make it my one point play. Hopefully just Herbert doesn't walk away from the interview afterwards. And. And we get one point there.

[Unidentified Co-host]

You're hoping he gets an interview afterwards. It means he won that.

[Don McGregor]

That's exactly right though. I do you know what? I do hope he walks away from an interview after. Maybe it's a DD King Kobala. I don't know. We'll find out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Find out view.

[Don McGregor]

Yeah, my two point play. Two two very, very, very similar. The the road Detroit Lions getting six points in Los Angeles. Now listen, Detroit has not been exactly Detroit. No, but last time I checked they've been Detroit. Last time I checked though, the guy they have at running back, he's still the guy who looks like he just got the star in Mario Brothers. Right? Like every time he moves you hear the music and Jameer Gibbs is just gone. Right? He's still playing in that game.

[Unidentified Co-host]

He's that guy.

[Don McGregor]

The Rams are very good, don't get me wrong. I'm not putting him in the circle.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Super bowl yet but their defense is good.

[Don McGregor]

Give me the lines to cover the points. I'll stick around. That's my 2.2. And then I'm gonna throw up in my mouth a little bit because I got it wrong with this team last week.

[Unidentified Co-host]

Here he goes.

[Don McGregor]

I got it wrong with both these teams last week. I'm gonna put my three point play on those filthy, disgusting, dirty Dallas Cowboys minus five and a half at home against the Minnesota Vikings who looked like World Peters against the Commanders last week. I got a hunch JJ McCarthy is not going to be feeling the same way in Big D. On.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, look at you, cowboy boy.

[Don McGregor]

Give me the. Oh. Oh, no. Don't play cowboys. Don't you play those drops, for God's sake. I forgot.

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'm not saying.

[Don McGregor]

I'm not saying those things. I, I said the for you. I'm simply picking the dirty, filthy, stinking cowboys to cover the points back to back. Cowboys.

[Unidentified Co-host]

How about them cowboys?

[Don McGregor]

Peter don't like that drop. How about them cowboys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You like that one?

[Unidentified Co-host]

I'll tell you what, if you nail this on Monday, you'll be saying it.

[Don McGregor]

Oh boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yes. All the way into the playoffs. Into Big Peter comeback. So those are our picks. ENN is coming up next. This is the ESPN New York holiday party. Live from your mother's house in Garden City Park, Long Island. Brought to you by Amazon Pickup Security dodge and spiked aid. Made for big city social stamina.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Unidentified Co-host]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good.

[Podcast Announcer]

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