Hour 3: Fraud, That Guy & Picks

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast: “Hour 3: Fraud, That Guy & Picks”

ESPN New York | November 26, 2025
With Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode is a pre-Thanksgiving special featuring a “segment-palooza” as the trio squeeze several fan-favorite segments into one show: “Fraud Alert Friday,” “That Guy Thursday,” and their weekly NFL picks. The main thread running through the hour is fandom authenticity — what makes someone a “fraud” as a sports fan — and spirited debates around team allegiance, sports traditions, and Thanksgiving football predictions. Expect lively listener interaction, playful ribbing, and signature ESPN New York energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Fraud Alert Friday: Confessions and Rulings

(Starts ~00:36)

A. The Great Fandom Debate

• Origin Stories: Listeners call and write in with backstories on how they chose their sports teams, seeking rulings from “Judge Don” on whether they’re “frauds.”
• Nuance in Fandom: The hosts contemplate whether loyalty matters more than origin, whether “bandwagon” fans are always frauds, and how local ties play a role.

B. Listener Cases

• Zach’s Dilemma: Steelers vs Jets (02:00)

  • At 15, Zach bet his team allegiance on the 2010 Jets-Steelers AFC Championship. Steelers won, so he’s been die-hard Steelers since, despite NYC roots.
  • Ruling:
    • Don: “I’m going to say no fraud.” (03:48)
    • Insight: “It feels like a fugazi way of becoming a fan, but since he became a fan he’s die hard... no fraud.” (03:45–03:51)

• Rooting for College You Never Attended (04:32, 05:10)

  • Multiple listeners admit to being big fans of UConn, Georgetown, or Ohio State (see Mike from Terrytown at 11:07), despite never attending.
  • Don’s General Barometer: “It’s fraudulent to me...He’s never set foot on the campus. So he doesn’t go to games.” (05:10)
  • But...
  • On Ohio State Fan Mike: “You almost went there. There’s a little something... I’m going to say no fraud.” (11:52)
  • Insight: Intent and effort matter — wanting to go to a college, or being local, may absolve “fraud” in Don’s eyes.

• Dual Loyalty: Jets & Giants Fan (Bradley in Queens, 13:39)

  • Admits to rooting for both teams due to family upbringing.
  • Consensus:
    • Don: “What you were experiencing was fraud.” (14:49)
    • Rosenberg: “That weird feeling was fraud.” (14:51)
    • Insight: “It’s polygamy...you’re married to two people. It’s not right.” (15:06)

• Bandwagon Chiefs Fan (Oscar’s Sister, 19:02)

  • Sister became a Chiefs fan with Mahomes’ rise, accused of “fake fandom.”
  • Ruling:
    • “Until she jumps ship, no fraud. But I think she’ll jump ship.” (20:03)
    • Insight: “You gotta let that play out.” (20:15)

• Hockey Fan Conversion (Nas in Queens, 20:50)

  • From “default” Rangers fan to an Islanders die-hard after partying with the team.
  • Ruling:
    • Don: “Alcoholic. No fraud.” (23:07, 23:31)
    • Memorable moment: “Oh my god, the sacrifice! I’m going to say alcoholic. No fraud.” (23:07)

C. Fun Side Moments

• Emergencies like “texting Damien Woody in all capitals — FRAUD” about not watching Napoleon Dynamite (10:31–10:49)
• Comparing fandom “polygamy” to indecisiveness at a buffet (15:16), and playful barbs exchanged among the trio and callers.

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2. That Guy Thursday: Lane Kiffin’s Coaching Drama

(28:34–35:14, especially 29:29–35:14)

A. The Segment Premise

• Focus on figures who are “being that guy” — i.e., displaying annoying, selfish or evasive behavior in sports.

B. Lane Kiffin Under the Microscope

• Ole Miss head coach Lane Kiffin is grilled for deflecting media questions about his rumored job moves before the Egg Bowl, despite being open on the Pat McAfee show.
  • Media: “Are you able to elaborate on the nature of that meeting at all?” Kiffin: “Like I said at the beginning, very fair question. But we’re not answering anything...” (30:33–30:41)
  • Hahn: “He’s being that guy...because is he... We all know. And you went on McAfee and spoke pretty openly about things.” (31:18–31:28)
  • Don (offering sympathy): “But I do sometimes feel bad for these guys...we all want information, and we are the first to kill these coaches...It’s unfortunate because people care.” (33:25–34:06)

C. Consensus

• Kiffin’s blend of politeness and evasiveness makes him “that guy”—but not the worst iteration. Respectful, but still not transparent; a classic college football PR dance.

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3. New York Giants Coaching Future and NFL Coaching Carousel

(35:14–37:55)

• Extended discussion on Giants interim coach Kafka — whether he keeps the job if GM Shane stays.
  • Don: “If Shane stays, Kafka stays. If Shane’s gone, then Kafka’s gone. That’s my opinion.” (36:53)
• Revisiting the idea that familiarity and “not upsetting too much” are prioritized in front office decision-making.

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4. NFL Picks: Thanksgiving and Beyond

(44:43–56:14)

A. Standings & Scoring Dispute

• Don leads (17-19, 32 pts), Alan trails (14-22, 28 pts), Peter in the rear (11-25, 22 pts).
• Heated but good-natured debate over whether certain weeks’ points were properly recorded, culminating in:
  • Peter: “You know what that’s called? It’s called a teammate and it’s called honest.” (46:20)

B. Picks Breakdown (Key Games and Rationales)

• Don’s Picks:

  1. Bengals (+7 vs Ravens) – “Burrow wants to see if he can’t make something of this season.”
  2. Bills (covering in Pittsburgh vs Steelers) – “Show me something here!”
  3. Giants (+7.5 at New England) – “At some point, the worm’s got to turn, right?...Wouldn’t be shocked if they actually won.”

• Alan’s Picks:

  1. Bengals (+7) (aligns with Don)
  2. Lions (-2.5 vs Packers) – “This feels like the type of game for the Lions...biting kneecaps.”
  3. Chiefs (-3.5 at Dallas) – “I know that Dak doesn’t lose at home, but that’s only when he plays the NFC East.”

• Peter’s Picks:

  1. Giants (+7.5) – “I’ll take the Giants to cover the number...giants play everyone close.”
  2. Packers (+2.5 @ Detroit) – “Give me the Packers.”
  3. Cowboys (-3.5 vs Chiefs) – “And my three on them Cowboys. I’ve never been prouder of our pick.” (55:51)

C. Memorable Banter

• Peter: “If I win, I’m back. If I lose, I’m that meme on the internet of Elmo with the fires...I’m just relishing.” (55:54)
• Alan: “I’m not out of my mind. I’m taking the Chiefs. I’m laying the three and a half. And the Chiefs, their hand’s gonna come up from the grave and they’re gonna say, ‘Oh, we’re back.’” (52:24–52:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Don (on dual team fandom):
  “It’s polygamy, right? You’re married to two people. It’s not right.” (15:06)

• Alan (on Buffalo Bills heartache):
  “The game that stands out to me, and it wasn’t their fault but it kind of was...Jets need a win and they’re in the playoffs, and they go up there and lay an egg.” (08:53–09:10)

• Don (on Lane Kiffin):
  “He sounded like a guy that got it—like, ‘I understand why you’re doing this, but I just can’t answer the question.’ How often do you see a coach go three-deep with those?” (34:32)

• Peter (summarizing Oscar’s failed attempt to “out” his sister):
  “Oscar called the show hoping to get someone else to be called into the fraud carpet. That was denied and he was called a fraud instead. Fantastic moment.” (20:18–20:30)

• Don (on bandwagon fans):
  “If she sticks with it, she’s not a fraud. But do you think she’s going to stick with it?” (19:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:36 – Fraud Alert Friday intro and fan fraud cases begin
• 02:00 – Zach’s Steelers/Jets dilemma
• 04:32 – Fans of colleges they never attended
• 11:07 – Mike from Terrytown’s Ohio State story
• 13:39 – Bradley in Queens admits to rooting for Jets and Giants
• 19:02 – Oscar outs his Chiefs-fan sister as a potential fraud
• 20:50 – Nas from Queens’ Islanders conversion story
• 28:34 – Transition to “That Guy Thursday” (Lane Kiffin segment begins)
• 29:29 – Lane Kiffin press conference exchange
• 35:14 – New York Giants/Kafka coaching discussion
• 44:43 – NFL picks segment begins
• 47:52 – Giant picks banter, “going off the cliff together”
• 55:54 – Peter: “I’m that meme on the internet...”

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Overall Tone

The hosts are playful, opinionated, and quick-witted, often ribbing each other and their passionate callers. They embody quintessential New York sports banter—sarcastic but warm, fiercely loyal but ready to question the rules of fandom. The show moves fast, mixing real sports insight with humor, nostalgia, and signature ESPN New York personality.

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Final Take

This episode is a quintessential “hang out” sports talk show, where debates about fan authenticity, college roots, and NFL outlook dovetail with personal stories and community engagement. “Fraud Alert Friday” delivers true radio theater, and “That Guy Thursday” plus the picks segment offer a full sampler of what makes Don, Hahn & Rosenberg a destination for New York sports fans.

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Recommended for:
Anyone wanting a deep dive into the intricacies of fandom, college football drama, or straight-up entertaining NFL talk—with the warmth and wit of three pros who love their city’s sports and aren’t afraid to call out “that guy.”

Transcript

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[Don LaGreca]

I'm a fraud with a capital F.

[Alan Hahn]

Is your friend a fraud?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I have been a complete and utter fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Are you a fraud?

[Ryan Reynolds]

What is fraud?

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Go scratch yourself.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, just to update everyone, by the way, 502 in the big city with Don McGregor. Peter Rosenberg, I'm Alan Hahn. We are doing a segment palooza for you today since we don't have a show tomorrow. But we will have a show tomorrow. I should say we don't. It's not that we don't have a show, but we. We don't have a regular show tomorrow. It is Thanksgiving and then Friday we will not be here. So we thought little special way to spend our day here before Thanksgiving is to do a little best of of each segment and do it all in one show. And that's we've been doing. So you're gonna get things that you normally get on a Monday or a Tuesday or a Wednesday with a list today that's normal. Third, that guy Thursday, that's coming up. But fraud alert Friday is something we're doing here since we won't be able do it on Friday. The honorable Donald Lagrega is presiding always. And approaching the bench right now is Peter Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, well, thank you for that. We have an email here from Zach. He says he needs a fraud ruling asap. Apologies, I just moved my camera. I forgot about that. Hello, Don, Peter and Alan. I need to know. I've been if I've been living as a fraud for 15 years.

[Don LaGreca]

Interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Please give me your ruling. Don't. When I was 15, it was my first season following football for real. My friends are pushing me all season to be a Jets fan, but I was unsure. I was aware of the garbage fire that the jets had been my whole life, but they were local and natural progression would probably have made me a Jets fan. My friend Ethan kept pushing me. So in the 20 so in the 2010 AFC championship game I bet my fandom. I said if the jets won the AFC championship game I would lock into the jets for life. But if not, I would do the same for the Steelers. The Steelers won and I kept my word. I follow the Steelers. I watch every game, living and dying with every possession from Big Ben to Devlin Duck Hodges. Yet living in NYC and hearing a lot about the jets definitely intrigues me about what if my whole life is that of a fraud?

[Don LaGreca]

He was 15. Yeah, it's odd to be that late to football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's an odd way to choose.

[Don LaGreca]

But you've got cowboy fans because they like the star or the cheerleaders. It's a weird kind of it feels fugazi way of becoming a fan. But it sounds like since he became a fan he's a die hard. He watches every game, he knows the players. So as strange as it.

[Alan Hahn]

Anthony.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm going to say no fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Don LaGreca]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It does surprise me. I used to joke when I you want to hear the height of fraudulence of course is me in baseball. And I used to joke that like early in the season when I'd go to Orioles, Red Sox games, which I would often do and I was fond of both teams. I would say they were playing for my affection in that game, but I didn't take it seriously. I just was a fraud.

[Don LaGreca]

But is he a fraud because it took till 15 to become a football fan A little bit maybe. But overall he has stuck with it. I mean there's, there's weird origin stories to why I think the strangest thing he did. It took 15 years of his life to. To finally find a team. But no, I say no fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Generally I agree with Don Rich says rooting for a college team you didn't go to is weird. However, as someone born and raised in Connecticut, I'm a UConn fan in all sports they play in despite never setting foot on UConn's campus. More of a comment than a question.

[Don LaGreca]

But if you want to rule, I say to it anyway. Anthony. Yeah, it's, it's, it's fraudulent to me. Wow. He's never set foot on the campus. So he doesn't go to games. He doesn't go to games.

[Alan Hahn]

Maybe he can maybe can't get there.

[Don LaGreca]

But he lives in Connecticut. No. So yeah, his stores that hard to get To. It's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. It's out of the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not that big a state. I mean, but it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's out of the way.

[Don LaGreca]

The only. I'm hesitant because he roots for all the teams. Listen, if you're rooting for UConn football, you haven't seen a lot of winning, but it's just ironic that the two teams, the women and the men's basketball, just win constantly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It helps, doesn't it?

[Don LaGreca]

So I have a feeling that if UConn was, like, from, like, 40 years ago and nobody cared, he wouldn't be a fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I'm gonna say, well, let's stay with the college for a second. Ned. Ned reached out to us as well. And if you have any. If you have any questions, any fraud questions for Don, this would be the time to get it in. 1-800-919-3776. Ned says, Don, I went to Clark in Worcester freshman year, where I saw Patrick Ewing play in a tournament while he was at prep school. Then I transferred to nyu, who didn't have a sports team. So I became a big Georgetown fan when Patrick went there, and then he ended up becoming a Knick. Anyway, Ned.

[Don LaGreca]

Again, it's just. I don't. I don't get it. But anyway, Worcester. Welcome to Worcester. $25, please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

$25 $.

[Don LaGreca]

I. Listen, I don't get it. You know, I like Patrick Ewing. I'm going to be a Georgetown. I don't get it. I don't like it. It's so fraudulent to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Rod, give us the siren.

[Don LaGreca]

That's half the fun right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I wait for the Eddie Murphy. Aaron. Aaron writes and says Don needs to defend himself in fraud court. I thought one of Don's commandments was to never root for your rivals. How is he supporting Dallas over Kansas City? It seems it would violate that rule.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, again, I'm not rooting in the sense of I'm become a Dallas Cowboy fan. It's just. It's almost like I got a bet on the Cowboys. I. My personal life to me is better if Kansas City doesn't make the playoffs. So I'm betting on me. I'm rooting for me. All right, so I am not a Cowboy fan, but listen, we violate the rules if two teams in the same division play, right? We violate the rules if a Cowboy win would help the Giants, right? Well, you know what? A Cowboy win helps me. So if that makes me a fraud, then I'm going to wear it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I can also say if you're a fan of the Giants or the Commanders, and you would rather the Cowboys somehow run the table and beat the Eagles out of the division, you could root for that, too. I don't want to see the Eagles get a third Super Bowl. How about that?

[Don LaGreca]

You know what? That's a very good point. I mean, it's not going to happen, but it could. I'd like to see the Cowboys run the table and beat the. Beat the Eagles out of the division. I mean, it would make me sick that the Cowboys won the division. But it may be sicker if Philadelphia wins it again and goes to the super bowl again.

[Alan Hahn]

I hope they all lose. That's how I. If it's. If it's like the. The Patriots and the Bills. Yeah, I hope they all lose. I get the story. But as a Jets fit. No, I want them all loser.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And sadly, it's always interesting.

[Alan Hahn]

I hope the blimp runs into the stadium and they have to cancel the game.

[Don LaGreca]

Can I ask you a legitimate question?

[Alan Hahn]

What?

[Don LaGreca]

I understand they're in your division.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

And they've beaten you up quite. Quite a bit.

[Alan Hahn]

Quite a bit.

[Don LaGreca]

But what exactly is the reason you hate the Bills? I can't remember a big game they really played.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I tend.

[Don LaGreca]

I know they played.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no, no.

[Don LaGreca]

You beat them, right?

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no. The game that stands out to me. And it wasn't their fault, but it kind of was. Rex is coaching. Jets need a win and they're in the playoffs and they go up there and lay an A again. The Bills are going nowhere.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And you go up there and you can't come away with a win. And it's like that sticks with you.

[Don LaGreca]

And it's like.

[Alan Hahn]

And they play. They played out of their minds. Like, if you had played all year like that, maybe you would have been a playoff team, too, but. Oh, but you had to play hard against the jets in that game, right?

[Don LaGreca]

No, I get that.

[Alan Hahn]

So that stuff. You hate it.

[Don LaGreca]

No. And I'm not saying you shouldn't hate it.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not the same level as the Dolphins. It's certainly not the mud bowl thing for me.

[Don LaGreca]

Give that.

[Alan Hahn]

Because it's not the Dolphins.

[Don LaGreca]

Dolphins have a history. Jets, Patriots have a history.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don LaGreca]

There's definitely not as much history.

[Alan Hahn]

Not as much. But there's still something.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, they smacked you around during the Marv Levy era, but you were smacked around by everybody back then.

[Alan Hahn]

Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anyone who showed up, they were definitely.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

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[Alan Hahn]

Now a good question is being asked in the group. Lucas is saying, did anyone confirm if Damien Woody watched Napoleon Dynamite?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, you know, we didn't. Anthony, did we get a text?

[Alan Hahn]

We did not.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, you know what? I want you to text him in all capital letters. Fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don LaGreca]

Exclude.

[Alan Hahn]

From the guys.

[Don LaGreca]

And then if he texts you back, question mark, then send it again.

[Alan Hahn]

In the meantime, while Anthony's doing that, let's go to Mike in Terrytown with a fraud alert for us. Mike.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, guys. So listen, similar to the UConn story, I'm an Ohio State fan. I became an Ohio State fan in about 2015 when I was about 21 years old. All right, I was about to attend school there. I enrolled in classes and everything. And then unfortunately, it didn't work out. Ended up staying local and not going. But long story short, ever since then, I've been a major Ohio State fan and been out to a couple games against Michigan, couple games against Penn State and Columbus, and I've just followed them ever since. So I've been a Die Hard. And so I'm just curious, am I fraud for being an Ohio State fan?

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, at least you tried to go there. You almost went there. And so there's a little something I just. Again, I'll ask you the question I ask everybody. So if Ohio State wins the national championship this year and you're partying with the students, are you going to feel like you belong? You're partying with the alumni and they're going to say, well, what year did you graduate? I didn't go there. I almost went there, but I didn't. You would feel separated from everybody else. You wouldn't feel that way being a fan of anybody else, right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that's a. That's a fair point. That's a fair point.

[Alan Hahn]

So, Mike. Mike, I need to know. Mike.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Alan Hahn]

What weird what happened that you. You couldn't go? Was it. Was it circumstances out of your control? Was it something that just made you have to stay home? Was it finances?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it was a financial thing. You know, the financial aid stuff. And then I figured, you know, why the heck am I going to pay out of state to tuition to go to Ohio State, even though it was such a. Such a dream of mine, you know?

[Alan Hahn]

So he's. He's maintaining an affinity for the. For the school.

[Don LaGreca]

It is certainly a lot less weird than, oh, I. I liked Patrick Ewing, so I'm gonna root for Georgetown. Even though he graduated from there 37 years ago. Yeah, because at least it's coming from a place. He wanted to go. There. He almost went there.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

So it's definitely less weird than the.

[Alan Hahn]

People that just extenuating circumstances kept him from being the loyal fan he wanted to be, which is be on campus. So, Don, are we rule? What are we ruling?

[Don LaGreca]

I'm going to say no fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

No fraud.

[Don LaGreca]

Because I do think fraud's the wrong word for people that root for college teams. Right? Because I'm not rooting. It doesn't sound like he's rooting for another college football team. There's at least a decent enough origin story where I can kind of understand it. So I don't know if fraud's the right word. We got to come up with a different word for that.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay. In the meantime, Weird Bradley in Queens has a fraud alert for us. Bradley.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, guys.

[Don LaGreca]

How's it going?

[Alan Hahn]

Good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So, first of all, just wanted to say to Peter, I didn't want to bother you, because if you was at Money in the bank, you were next to me, but go turf. Second of all, I just was. So I was born and raised, and this is the only sport where I do it, where I root for two teams. I root for the jets and the Giants in football. So I know that's, like, the cardinal sin of being a fraud. But I was born. You know, I was born and raised that way because my dad was the bandwagon fan on the Jets. He started rooting for the jets after Super Bowl 3, when they won the championship. So I know that that's no sacrilege to root for two teams at once, but considering I was born and raised that way, I was just, you know, wondering whether that would be against.

[Don LaGreca]

Who do you root for when they play each other? So in 20, in 2011, on Christmas Eve, the Victor Cruz game, who were you rooting for? Both teams needed the game equally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who did you root For.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know what it was. It was really hard. I mean, I pretty much was, like, rooting for offense at that point. To be honest, it was the weirdest experience I've had.

[Don LaGreca]

What you were experiencing was fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that weird feeling was fraud.

[Don LaGreca]

Because when your favorite team is playing in a huge game like that and you're just rooting for offense because you don't know who to root for, you're a fraud. Let's be honest, guys. That's weird. It's being. But it's.

[Alan Hahn]

It's.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it's polygamy. Right? I mean, it's. You're married to two people. It's not. Right.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not judging. You're just saying it's.

[Alan Hahn]

If it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the definition, it's fraud.

[Don LaGreca]

Again, doesn't mean he's a bad guy. He's just someone that, you know. He's the guy in the buffet line that holds it up because he doesn't know what to eat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He wants it all.

[Alan Hahn]

Joey, high roller on the. In the group, in the YouTube comments, he says it's different, though. I live here in Syracuse, attend so many games. I didn't attend the school, but it's my hometown. Is that a fraud or not?

[Don LaGreca]

Why didn't he go? I need a little bit more information. I will say, Joey, let us know.

[Alan Hahn]

Why he didn't go.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not that bad because that's basically. When you're living in Syracuse, that's kind of the pro team. Right? I mean, nobody else is really that close.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

You're too far from Buffalo. You're too far from New York City. You live there, you go to the games. It's hard to say you're a fraud. But if I found that he, you know, he went to school in Binghamton, and. No, you're a fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's the same as the Yukons and the Dukes and, you know, big southern football schools. Like that is the pro team.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, we did admit that. I think there's certain geography in this. Right. Like a guy in the metropolitan area. It seems weird because you have all these professional teams and all the. All the sports are represented, you know, but. But if. If you live on Tobacco Road, I mean, what. What. What NBA team you're rooting for?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, none. You got. You got three teams to choose from.

[Don LaGreca]

And they're all better than the one that's playing Charlotte. One of those three teams. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I completely agree. Dr. Van Nostrand, another good comment here. He said, rooting for the, the rooting for New York thing is one of the most nauseating things I can ever hear. I think when you have a market, there aren't many of them, but markets that have two of two teams in the same sport. Like there. I don't think there's ever, there's ever a situation that's allowable to say, I root for both teams.

[Don LaGreca]

No, there is none. I mean, you can't.

[Alan Hahn]

You, you can't even make a case for it at all. Let's continue. We have more. More fraud calls.

[Don LaGreca]

I love it.

[Alan Hahn]

So let's. Yeah, let's continue to do this with Oscar in New York. Oscar.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, how you doing, guys? Alan, I love you. You are incredible at MSG and everything that you do for the Knicks. Done with all your antics and everything and all your rants that you do.

[Don LaGreca]

Awesome.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So this is really quick, my older sister. He became from 997 to this. You know, I'm not a big fan of Peter, but that's another story.

[Don LaGreca]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Happy Thanksgiving, bud.

[Alan Hahn]

Sorry I did that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I know, I know. I got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You said from Hot 97 to this. Does that mean you already weren't a fan from Hot 97?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I wasn't a fan just because of his takes on hip hop music and how he put, you know, his views on it. But that's for another story. So the whole thing is. But now I'm so curious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What, what were the hip hop.

[Don LaGreca]

Give me one. Give me one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just give us something.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, okay, I'll give you an example. Every time Eminem came out with a new album, he would crap all over it.

[Alan Hahn]

Why?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I have no idea. Maybe it's not his type of music. And, you know, even when Eminem was making great albums here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Okay, so I love Marshall. Love, love Marshall. But in the years since I've been on Hot 97, he. He hasn't dropped a classic album.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You're right. But see, I'm a stand. So for me, they've all been classics, you know, But.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, so you just admit it?

[Alan Hahn]

Just disagree?

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know what? You know what?

[Alan Hahn]

We. I love that take.

[Don LaGreca]

That's a great job. I don't know if that was answering your heart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, what's your fraud?

[Ryan Reynolds]

What's your.

[Don LaGreca]

What's your fraud?

[Alan Hahn]

What do you got?

[Ryan Reynolds]

So my older sister, she became a fantasy. She started playing fantasy football the year Patrick Mahomes had won his first super bowl, which we all know you know, for from there, what he became. But I always tell her, you're not a real Fan, because you never were a Jet fan or a Giant fan or anything that you got. You had to go through pain just like I went through the pain of the Knicks during the Nets reign. She's not. She's not. She has never lived that pain. So when she goes, oh yeah, the Chiefs are on. I always make fun of her and I tell her, well, you're a fake fan because you jumped on the bandwagon right when they were about to take off. But I want you guys to say it because I'm going to send her this clip and I want to expose her.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, here's the thing. I need to know what happens if the Chiefs miss the playoffs for the next couple of years. Is she still going to be a fan? Because if she sticks with it, she's not a fraud. But do you think she's going to stick with it?

[Ryan Reynolds]

She's only going to stick with it now. I feel like, because I've given her so much crap about it and I feel like as soon as Mahomes leave the Chiefs or anything happens, I feel like she's going to jump the bandwagon to wherever he.

[Don LaGreca]

But until she.

[Alan Hahn]

Until she does.

[Don LaGreca]

Until she does, no fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

Sorry. Thank you, Austin.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No fraud.

[Don LaGreca]

No fraud. Now I do. I think she'll jump ship. Oh yeah. But until it happens, guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, no, you gotta, you gotta let that play out real quick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold on. For those keeping track at home, Oscar called the show hoping to get someone else to be called into the frog carpet. That was denied and he was called a fraud instead.

[Don LaGreca]

Fantastic moment.

[Alan Hahn]

The law turned on him and we got a goal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There we go.

[Alan Hahn]

Nothing like.

[Don LaGreca]

Perfect timing party, five o' clock hour.

[Alan Hahn]

We have one more fraud call because I already plugged him up. Nas in Queens. Nas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, what's up guys? Happy Thanksgiving.

[Alan Hahn]

Likewise.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'll make it quick. So hockey was my fifth favorite sport. So I'm a Jets, Knicks, Yankees fan and I was a Rangers fan by default because I'm from Queens and my dad liked the rangers. So in 2012, my first job in college, I worked at a five star catering hall and they do the New York Islanders Halloween party every year. So we were doing the party and long story short, towards the end of the night, they started, they brought their own funnel with them and they started funneling the beer. John Tavares was a rookie at the time and I remember Matt Martin was like the biggest guy there. He was in a tutu outfit. He comes up to me, he reads my name tag and he says, you're next on the funnel. And I was like, oh, I might lose my job. I don't know. And then Matt Martin says, okay. He goes back to where they're all huddled and funneling. And you know how someone says something to a group of people and then they all just look at you at the same time? So that's what happened. And they started chanting my name. And at that point, I was like, you know what? Screw it. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity drinking and partying with a hockey team. So I did the funnel. I did it. I took it like a chat. They were chanting my name as I was funneling someone. They were going crazy. They ripped my name. They ripped my tie off. I never got that back. That night, my name tag was ripped off. They're going crazy. And basically at the end of the night, I decided that I was gonna be an Islanders fan starting from that night. And since then, I actually became more of a hockey fan. I actually started watching regular season games. Before, I only really cared in the playoffs, but now I actually go to games, buy apparel. And so I told this. I told this story to everyone. Like, I told it a hundred times. And most, almost everyone said the same answer, the same verdict. I wanted to see what Don said.

[Alan Hahn]

We got it. We got it. We get the gist of.

[Don LaGreca]

You might have a drinking problem. I would definitely look into that. I'm going to say no fraud, because you said it was my fifth sport. That's basically saying it wasn't a sport.

[Alan Hahn]

He wasn't really interested.

[Don LaGreca]

Nascar, what was. What was. You know, what was for.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he named three teams and then said hockey was the fifth sport.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, we listen. That's like me saying I was a Ranger fan because my dad was a Ranger fan until, like, I discovered the Devils. Like, everybody's going to have their money. It just sounded like he was a fan by default and he was looking for a reason to be a fan. He found one. He looked like he stuck with. He's watching regular season games. Oh, my God, the sacrifice. You know, I'm going to say alcoholic. No fraud.

[Alan Hahn]

And that is our fraud alert. Friday. On a Wednesday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We've never heard alcohol, he goes, alcoholic.

[Alan Hahn]

No fraud.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No fraud. Alcohol.

[Alan Hahn]

But don't drive, okay?

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, his job was on. We should have checked to see if he still has the job.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't think he did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When that call got to the end, guys, it just. We had for a moment. I flatlined. I was gone.

[Don LaGreca]

I saw.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I started seeing what, the white light.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. I was so Checked out, sir. Harvey had to wave to me and say, play it out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Play it out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, speaking of dead or alive.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Alan, tell me about how electric that the office is there today.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. So you know. You know, like the lights are on motion sensor.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So in the big space.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So half the office is dark.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah. Dead is the door.

[Alan Hahn]

The other. The other half is only lit up because I think we. Some of the producers that are coming in next are milling about. So that side. Most of the production team is here. Most of the product. Well, I know Santiago came in here. We got two games tonight. Oh, that's right. Harvey's pulling double duty. We got a lot going on here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How was it loud when you got in, though?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, Alan, like in at 2:30.

[Alan Hahn]

2:02 30. It was me, Winthrop and Pusick and Dino. That's right. Dinahan was leaving. He really. Let's be honest, he was just like the wind. It felt a breeze. And that was Dinahan and she's like the wind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I often think of Dinahan when I think you're that song. So it wasn't packed house when he got there either?

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, it was not packed. There was. There was Dunkin Donuts left though, which was nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Alan Hahn]

So that was the. You missed out on delightful donuts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't forget. In our cupboard, Alan, we've got some of the delicious Trader Joe's peanut butter cups. We got some Manuka. You treat yourself. All right, buddy?

[Don LaGreca]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

How about your nuts? Can I get some?

[Peter Rosenberg]

My nuts are always yours.

[Don LaGreca]

How about these nuts?

[Alan Hahn]

These? That's what I should have said. Can I have these? Very good, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not afraid to put that out there, okay?

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

The Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. We all have that one friend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm talking about the yo yos who.

[Don LaGreca]

Set themselves on fire and bathe in pork and beans.

[Alan Hahn]

Or know that one person I'm here with my family who can't help but be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not cool. His voice is weird. He's kind of a dork. His brother's a tool. His girlfriend's annoying.

[Alan Hahn]

That guy.

[Don LaGreca]

I didn't know it was banner Night. We won't be out for that.

[Alan Hahn]

It's time for that Guy Thursday. Hey, guys, anyone want to play some ball? Whip Don Hahn and Rosenberg.

[Don LaGreca]

He's just being that guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Ah, yes. Even during the holiday season, you could be that guy. And you know, from the movie PC, which was a great movie, don't be that guy. And so are that guy today. As we talked about a lot of NFL and Thanksgiving Day games, you know, this is also, like, the beginning of bowl season and some of these different games and the rivalries that we have that they play for all these different trophies and whatnot, the Egg bowl is certainly one of them. It's Ole Miss in Mississippi State now. Ole Miss, 10 and 161 in the SEC. You know you're trying to lock up a spot in the college football playoffs, right? But you also have rumors about your head coach, Lane Kiffin.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

And Lane Kiffin is coaching in this game, although there were some questions of whether he would or not, because his future at Ole Miss is in doubt with openings at some major colleges, including lsu, you know, his name is coming up as a candidate. He's using it to his advantage. It's great leverage. Of course. And the school said that they will not be talking about his future until November 29th. That's Saturday. The game is Friday. So that's all you need to know about whether or not Lane Kiffin's gonna be there. Right? Because if he's gonna be there, he's gonna say, I'm gonna be here. But it gets even worse. He becomes that guy when the media is trying to ask questions about his future, because that's what you're supposed to do. Because if you're a fan of Ole Miss, if you're a player and maybe even somebody part of the administration there, you'd like some answers from Lane Kiffin. So here's how he answered questions about his future.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lane Keefe released a statement on Friday that saying that you, him, and Chancellor.

[Don LaGreca]

Boyce had had a meeting about your future.

[Alan Hahn]

Are you able to elaborate on the.

[Don LaGreca]

Nature of that meeting at all?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, like I said at the beginning, very fair question. But we're not answering anything that doesn't.

[Alan Hahn]

Have to do with the game and.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The team and the season.

[Alan Hahn]

So.

[Don LaGreca]

But fair question. You mentioned on Pat McAfee how you don't make decisions based on money. When you do make your decisions, what are the considerations for you then? Especially when it comes to football decisions.

[Alan Hahn]

Right?

[Don LaGreca]

Like, what are you thinking about? Yeah, very fair question, but I'm not.

[Alan Hahn]

Going into it, because like I said at the beginning, I'm gonna keep this to this team.

[Don LaGreca]

And he says, expects a decision on Saturday. Is that a decision that's been made.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Or is that still in consideration?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, people are just curious about that.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

So, I mean, you can just keep going. I'm not gonna answer them. So that's three of them. You got another one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That guy.

[Alan Hahn]

He's being that guy. Because is he. We all know. And you went on McAfee and spoke pretty openly about things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but. But when you're on McAfee, you're hanging out with the boys. You're getting to be cool. You're not talking to the media, you know?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, he's hanging with the dudes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So then you get. When the people who have to write about you and do their actual job want to quote, you got to treat.

[Don LaGreca]

Them like, yo, yo, I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

At least.

[Don LaGreca]

But. But here's the thing. I. He's at least being respectful and admitting there are good questions. He's being that guy because of the way the whole thing is going down.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

Although if he may and this is not gonna happen, but if he decides to stay, I guess he's not being that guy, but we all know he's leaving.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's what he said on McAfee, because he said, like, when. When he's trying to tell his players that these are the best of times and they should enjoy them. Right now, he's like, someday, 10, 20 years from now, you're gonna be saying, man, remember that run we had at Ole Miss? And we had that Division 2 quarterback that would make all those plays, and the running back leaving the country at touchdown, blah, blah, blah. He said. I said, you're in the good old days right now, so have fun. Enjoy it. And I think if you watch our team, you see them doing that. So that's. That's basically like a way to deflect away from whatever happens next. Doesn't matter. Live in the moment. That's what he's telling his players right now. But it does feel like he gone. Right? And I get. I get. I get what he's doing is being respectful to the media. But this whole situation, by the way, just to be clear, Lane Kiffin, this is not the first time this has happened. This happens all the time in college football. In fact, it's probably why nil on the portal, especially the portal, has become what it's become, because that levels the playing field. Coaches can bail out. They could pull the chute on. On their teams all the time when a better job opens up. So now players can do the same thing by jumping into the portal and moving to a better situation rather than stay with your program. That's what's made this. Now college football has become the wild, wild west. So what he's doing is nothing new. But he's got to know, standing at that podium, I'm being that guy right now. It can't be fun.

[Don LaGreca]

It's so, again, I, I, I can't defend him. But I do sometimes feel bad for these guys because we all want information, and we are the first to kill these coaches and players when they don't talk, and then they decide to talk, and then they get trapped by questions. They give a little bit too much information, and they got a backpedal. And then you have the situations that we have here, and it's just, it's unfortunate because people care. People care so much they want to know. And the reporters have a job to do, and they're trying to keep quiet at Ole Miss. And he wants to be respectful to his players, and then if he, the right thing to do is just shut down. I'm not talking anybody. And then we'll kill him for not talking to anybody.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so you're saying he's not being that guy? Well, he did shoot down, again with McAfee, did shoot down. That, that. You heard Keith. He said, Keith, Keith Carter, who's the athletic director, that Keith Carter gave an ultimatum, like, you're coaching or you're not. You got to tell us, give us a decision. He said that's not true, and that's what that, that's not going on. But, I mean, LSU and Florida are there for him to take if it feels like if he wants them.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, it's a tough spot. I guess the reason I'm leaning towards not being that guy is because I've seen guys in that situation be completely disrespectful to the media, be outraged by the questions. He sounded like a guy that got it. Like, I understand why you're doing this, but I just can't answer the question. How often do you see a coach go three deep with those. Usually the first one, they snap, and then the second one, you know, it's, it's, I'm on to Cincinnati, so I do want to err on the side. He's just being kind of respectful, which you don't see a lot of times out of that. Doesn't feel like he's playing the victim like a lot of coaches Do. But I get what you're saying too, because ultimately you are being that guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And you know it. But you have to, so, so you can be that guy. But do it because, you know, like, I have to right now. I got to be that guy right now. One thing though, it feels like is that because there was this thought of with Jackson Dart, would he have, would there with the Giants want to talk to him, have any interest in him there? That doesn't sound like that at all, does it?

[Don LaGreca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Pretty clear he is not going to be part of any potential Giants head coaching search.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And, and the Giants have their guy, Kafka. Am I right, Anthony? They're locked in, but you guys are good to go.

[Alan Hahn]

You're being that guy.

[Don LaGreca]

You joke about it, but like, like Gary, you know, gave his opinion on Kafka coming back, but he didn't shoot down what Peter asked about. Is he the favorite or is this his job to lose? Because when you give all the reasons for candidates based on the information that we have, to me, Kafka is the front runner. Everybody else, it's all speculation. The guy from Green Valley, he grew up in New Jersey. And everybody's coming up with like, fugazi reasons. Kafka. To me, there's, there's tangible reasons. What, what Banks said, the fact that he is the interim head coach, like, I, I, I just feel like of all the candidates, it feels like the one that appears to be the most real is Kafka.

[Alan Hahn]

And it was all this, the whole idea of not upsetting too much, right? Not, not making, messing it to Messing up too much and keeping it, keeping it as clean as possible, especially knowing what the, what John Maris going.

[Don LaGreca]

Here's what, here's what I will say, Alan. This will be my bold statement, my hot take, if you will.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay?

[Don LaGreca]

If Shane stays, Kafka stays. If Shane's gone, then Kafka's gone. That's my opinion. I think, I think it's Kafka's job if Shane stays.

[Alan Hahn]

So they just need to get a defensive defensive coordinator, right? If, if, you know what? If Kafka's smart, what do you think he should do at defensive coordinator? If he's smart, what does he do?

[Don LaGreca]

Does he go for back to Wink?

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, he's not, he's not in the league. No, he's right. But I, I think that's not crazy.

[Don LaGreca]

It's not crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

Wink loved it here.

[Don LaGreca]

He loved it here. He did a good job here. And like you said, he's not in the NFL like right the wrong.

[Alan Hahn]

Right, because he worked with Wink. He was the, he was the offensive coordinator. So wouldn't, wouldn't that be one way to go? And then just say to Wink, you know what, this is your thing. I'm staying out of this. That allows me to focus on the.

[Don LaGreca]

Offense and you know, all the, the buttons you can push with Wink because you'll know what not to do.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, because of.

[Don LaGreca]

Based on what, David, you know, listen.

[Alan Hahn]

Don'T get caught up in the emotion.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

That's such good Vin. Hey, Danny in Centerport wants to say hello.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Danny.

[Don LaGreca]

Hi, Danny.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, boys. You know, just really, I had a couple points as well, but you guys are gracious to get me on. I really, I really just wanted to wish all you guys a happy Thanksgiving. Seriously, your families happy, healthy. You know, I didn't get it. You guys are always support. I always support the morning. I didn't get a chance to reach out to Rick and Dave this morning, so those guys are listening them. Rj Ray, Happy Thanksgiving to those guys as well. I appreciate it, Alan. I'm just sticking up here. I'm calling a couple of quick points. I'm sticking up for you because I've told you this before. That game that you referenced, I took a ride to myself, which is me and a real good friend. Usually we would travel with a, with a pos you guys because you know you need a posy when you travel a little bit, unfortunately. But I went for that game in 15. Just me and my closest friend. And what we endured up until that last minute, you can't imagine. And we had our hearts ripped out as you referenced and that that's what's made me the bill hater that I am. That game actually Brandon Marshall wouldn't lay.

[Alan Hahn]

Out for that one pass right to Fitz on the sideline.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, Fitzy throwing that last second pick with like a minute and a half.

[Alan Hahn]

Left.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're on the. On like the 10 yard line to win the game. It was. It was a. Just a gut, wrenching loss, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Maddening.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sorry.

[Don LaGreca]

I was gonna say you almost. I know you hate them for, but you almost respect the fact they had nothing to play for. And they came.

[Alan Hahn]

I was right. Rex, Revenge.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, he loved it.

[Alan Hahn]

Danced on the grave. And I don't blame Rex, but still, Willie Colon told me he didn't play in that game. He was hurt. And Willie Colon was saying he was on the sideline. He goes, something didn't feel right before the game. And I'm like, what do you mean it didn't feel right? You play for a playoff spot.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, what does it. And I'm like, how do you not know? He's like, I don't know. I don't know. I was like, you a leader on the team. Why didn't you say something? It was like he was sitting in the studio that day and I'm all fired up. I'm like, barking at him like, why didn't you say something? And Chris can. He holds my shoulder. He goes, settle down, dog. I was like, yeah, you're right. My bad. Like, but. But Willie said it too. He's like, I. I don't know. But it didn't. Something didn't feel right before that game.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, that's what didn't feel right.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yo, Peter, can I say one thing from yesterday? Because I. I wanted to. I wanted to help you out. Cake all day long, my man. I mean, I'm not putting pie, you know, pie's not horrible, but take all day long, Peter. I'm with you on that, man. Can I say one thing about Aaron Glenn?

[Alan Hahn]

Sure. Quickly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you. I appreciate it. Listen, judge the man as what he's done. Right now. I'm sick and tired. I'm listening all the time. I'm sick of hearing about how he's not the answer.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay?

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's a brand new coach. Of course he's gonna make. He's gonna make decisions. They're gonna make you scratch your head. That comes with the territory. But as far as his team playing for him, they're giving him their all. He's made some good decisions with Muji. As far as the draft and what he did with Gwynnen and Source, I. I think that they're playing hard for him and we got to give him his props, man. Judge the guy for what he's done. He's just set us up now on top of it with these draft picks. I think the guy's going to be good. Yeah. Did he get rid of Rogers? That was a head scratcher as he made some head scratching decisions. Should he pull fields a little bit longer earlier in a couple of games? Yeah, but we could have had a couple of wins here, right guys? And judge him, man, as what he's done, his body of work. I mean give him a break.

[Alan Hahn]

I still believe.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not. I, I will not. I still do not believe that was his decision to let Rogers go. He might have agreed with it. Yeah, but I, I think that came with the job. Rogers is gone.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks Danny. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

[Don LaGreca]

Pass that off to to the morning show.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

The Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the game called?

[Don LaGreca]

Football.

[Alan Hahn]

These are the Don Han and Rosenberg pro picks.

[Ryan Reynolds]

D football.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, so as we head into Thanksgiving weekend, Don Lega still leads the way. 17 and 19, I think closer to 500. Donnie, 32 points after a one and two week last week. But you hit a big three. I am just scrapping along here at 14 and 22, but I make the most of my points, 28 points. So I'm four back of you. Donnie. I had a two in one week last week. I missed a three zero by a half a point, killing me. I know the hook, but a big four point. Wait, no, I had a five point week. What do you mean a four point week? I had a five point. I had my three and my two.

[Don LaGreca]

That's fine.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's update those numbers.

[Don LaGreca]

So what's the. So it doesn't affect the standings though.

[Alan Hahn]

No, but I should be three back of you then, if that's the way the math works. And then Peter Rosenberg at 11 and 25 locked in for the number one pick in the draft, 22 points. So I got a little bit of a distance now from you. There was a moment there though. You were scared.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not yet, baby.

[Don LaGreca]

You're not out.

[Alan Hahn]

Last week, a very good week. Got a couple points. You got your two and your one. So you missed your three. So with that in mind, Don legreco, our fearless leader. Take it away, Job. And I have you at 28 points, by the way. All right, But. But I had five points last week. How you mean how? My three and my two.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Your Chiefs were your two, your Cowboys.

[Don LaGreca]

Were your one according to the list.

[Alan Hahn]

That you got it wrong. All right. Because I had it written down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Don LaGreca]

What were you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What were you saying? Was your three last week? No, Browns was his three.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, the Browns is my three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what?

[Alan Hahn]

You See that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. You know what that's called? It's called a teammate and it's called honest.

[Alan Hahn]

And it's Also Kansas City 2, Dallas 1. That's what I have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kansas City 2.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dallas 1.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no, no, no. So, so Peter saying yes, Alan saying no. Which one is it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, boy. Oh, no, no, no.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm sorry.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, Dallas was not my one. I'll go back and listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I only know that Cleveland was his three. So you're saying the question is, was it a two or one?

[Alan Hahn]

It's the two or one that would have made it a four or five. Yeah, yeah, whatever, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. Kansas City was my three and I believe it was your two.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what, you know what? I don't know. And we got it wrong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we got it wrong. It was a four point week.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, by a half. But I, I, I don't know. Okay, go ahead. I didn't bring, I didn't bring all my notes with me today, so. Regardless, Don is still the leader. So let Don make his pick.

[Don LaGreca]

Can I get an update on the, the number in Baltimore?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, Baltimore. I have it at seven. Has it changed?

[Alan Hahn]

Seven is what I'm seeing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don LaGreca]

And that game is in Baltimore and that is the prime time game. We got the return of one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in Cincinnati and Joe Burrow. That's a pretty hefty number for a divisional matchup. Burrows coming back for a reason. Right? Because Burrow wants to see if he can't make something of this season, be disruptive. I am going to go with Cincinnati. Covering the seven is my one one, one point play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right. Love it. Love what you've done there.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm a little worried about the hook here, but dude, the bill's got to show up at some point, man. I think the Steelers fugazi, it's three and a half, a three on the road. But come on, Buffalo, show me something here. It's going to be my two point play. I think Buffalo takes care of business in Pittsburgh against the Steelers. And I mentioned it and Peter agrees and we'll see if Peter's got the same cubes that I do.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh boy.

[Don LaGreca]

I've loved the Giants here. At some point the worms got to turn, right? You take a look at what the Patriots have done with their nine straight wins and lot of one possession game. Again, I'm not taking anything away from them, but they play close. They don't blow teams out. The Giants don't get blown out. They hang around at seven and a half. I think the Giants are going to cover the seven and a half in New England. I wouldn't be shocked if they actually won in New England on Monday Night Football. I've got the Giants and I'm so feeling good about it. It's my three, three, three point play. So let's go with the. The Bengals getting seven is my one point play. I've got the Bills as my two, and the Giants is my three, three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Three stones, baby. That's it. Down.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I can't. I can't find our 3, 3, 3 drop. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you know what? I really want to see Allen do you know what, Don? I want to see if Allen has the. As the. The Kajones.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

As a gringo would say to follow Shador for week two.

[Alan Hahn]

I've confirmed. I've confirmed. Chiefs was Allen's two point play last week.

[Don LaGreca]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. A point off the board. I love.

[Alan Hahn]

Bang.

[Don LaGreca]

You gotta write stuff down better.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So guess what. Guess what that means. That means I'm hanging here, Don. I'm still just 16 point.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no, no, no. The 28. The 22 to 28 is still accurate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'm right there.

[Alan Hahn]

I was given the four and I. I don't know why. For me, I was five. Yeah, I thought I had five. It's one point. We're fine. We're going to make it up this week.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm in. Strike.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm feeling good. First and foremost, I want to make everybody. I want to make something clear. I'm done after tomorrow. That's right. I'm picking all three.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love what you're doing and I'm worried.

[Alan Hahn]

Game. I could have played the Shador. Game. I could have done that.

[Don LaGreca]

Could have done that.

[Alan Hahn]

I've told you all, all right? We can't get lost in emotion, okay? We can't motion. We can't do that because then we're not picking the right way. We're picking our heart now with our head. So I want to pick tomorrow because I feel like tomorrow this is a really good slate of games.

[Don LaGreca]

Hell, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And they're all very competitive games, so it's gonna.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You bet your ace.

[Alan Hahn]

So I'm with Don, the one point game. I'm with you, Bengoos. I'll take the seven. I got Joe Burrow in my pocket. I know it's at Baltimore, but Baltimore has shown you this year, the. The ravines, they are not the same at home anymore like they used to be. So I want to just see if they can at least keep it close. It's not to say the Ravens won't win this game. It's just to me, I think it's going to be a close game. It's. It's the AFC North. We know anything's possible. And with Joe Burrow out there, it'll be a lot of fun. So there's my one point. Give me the same as Don Cincinnati and I'll take the seven one point play. That's the one. Okay. I'll look at you. Confirmed. Look at you being that guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's that guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Thursday, right there. Right, sorry. That's your guy. It is my guy. I love him. My two point play. Give me the Lions. Give me the Lions. I'll lay the two and a half in Detroit like this feels like the type of game for the Lions, who might have been looking past a little bit the last week, you know, might have been sleeping a little bit, looking forward to Turkey Day. They hosted. It's a big deal. It's the Packers. You're talking about a big time rivalry. I'm feeling like they're biting kneecaps. Dan Campbell's gonna call a good game and they're gonna get the dub. That's my two point play. Which means for three, Kansas City at Dallas. Oh, what a game. This is spicy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's what you dream of.

[Alan Hahn]

Spicy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm feeling movement just thinking about spicy Meatball.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a spicy meat. The ball.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm gonna tell you what. Since I picked the Lions, here's what you have to keep in mind. The last time the Lions and the Cowboys went 2, 0 on Thanksgiving against the spread, you got to go back to when Don Lagreca debuted at this station.

[Don LaGreca]

Wow. Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

The last time they both straight up won. You got to go back to 94 when the Rangers won the Stanley cup for the last time.

[Don LaGreca]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

So how do you pick both of them? You'd be out of your mind to do that, right?

[Don LaGreca]

Smoking dope.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I'm not out of my mind. Yeah, I'm taking the cheeks. I'm laying the three and a half road favorites. Everybody knows. I know that Dak doesn't lose at home, but that's only when he plays the NFC East. And Mahomes, they can't kill him. They ain't dead. And the Chiefs, their hands gonna come up from the grave and they're gonna say, oh, we're back. And the Denver Broncos are gonna feel the pressure as their two games Back with a lot of football left to play. And that's my three point blue one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Two, three point play.

[Don LaGreca]

I love doing all Thanksgiving. I love the fact he spit in the face of convention. That's a winner.

[Alan Hahn]

All of it. Cincinnati, give me the seven Lions. I'll lay the two and a half Chiefs on the road. I'm laying the three and a half and the Chiefs aren't dead. The Swifties will love it on Thanksgiving.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love what the man has done. He threw down and he should be commended for it. Well, guys, time for me to get in here. I got to make these picks. Is there an opportunity for me to make up?

[Alan Hahn]

You sound so confident.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Any ground against these two? I'd say behemoths, but neither is very good. Don, better than Alan, but neither is anything you're bringing to your mom.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you have a big day and I have a bad day. You're tied with me. You're right there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me. Don asked if I have the Kajonis to go with him and cubes.

[Don LaGreca]

I said cubes.

[Alan Hahn]

He's cubes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

To hold hands and ride with the Giants.

[Don LaGreca]

You bet.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Your ace side, too. Enough for one point.

[Alan Hahn]

That's one point play.

[Don LaGreca]

That's Thelma and Louise, but they're not holding hands.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, we're jumping though. I'm jumping with you.

[Don LaGreca]

We're going off the cliff.

[Alan Hahn]

Definitely a jump.

[Don LaGreca]

Definitely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Hey, look at Anthony. I'll take the Giants to cover the number. Big number there for the Patriots. Giants play. Everyone close. They'll be up in the fourth quarter. They'll lose, but they'll cover seven and a half. Give me the Giants for one now. That makes my. My two point play very, very interesting. And it comes down to Thanksgiving Day. Ooh, and Allen just spit the stat right in our face.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

3. How hard it is for both teams to cover and win outright. And that's why me and Alan are going to have. You want to talk about moving day? Oh, you want to talk about moving day?

[Don LaGreca]

Let's talk about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Give me the packers and the Cowboys.

[Alan Hahn]

Right in your race. All right, Wait a minute. Right.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was told.

[Don LaGreca]

I was told that you can't say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but the last part I said is not a word. I know, but ace is not a word.

[Alan Hahn]

Ace is an ace. YouTube.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Got to enjoy it.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm saying this because you're gonna have to repeat it for the night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, I'm gonna say it again.

[Don LaGreca]

Hold on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm gonna say it the right way.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, let's Go.

[Don LaGreca]

Here we go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's why you talk about moving day. Your boy is going for it with the packers and the Cowboys for your ace.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey, how about that?

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

How about what's the point allocation?

[Alan Hahn]

You're taking points. Yeah, right. All right, so you're taking the points, but what are the. What's a point allocation?

[Don LaGreca]

Well, if he doesn't get both, he loses five points.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's exactly right. But I need.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm putting my two point play with the Green Bay packers and my three on them Cowboys. I've never been prouder of our pick.

[Don LaGreca]

Never.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This.

[Alan Hahn]

I love it. Why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why not?

[Don LaGreca]

It?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because. Because here's the beauty of it. If I win, I'm back.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If I lose, I. I'm that. I'm that meme on the Internet of Elmo with the fires. Elmo, Grover, whoever it is. The fire just. I'm just relishing.

[Don LaGreca]

Can't be more dead.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. But he loves it, so you might as well enjoy.

[Alan Hahn]

He loves it. He's miserable. He loves it. So that's our picks. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to know how the.

[Alan Hahn]

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers before you go.

[Don LaGreca]

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