Hour 3: Giannis Watch & Cold Baseball

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 3: Giannis Watch & Cold Baseball

ESPN New York | April 7, 2026 | Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Don La Greca

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Episode Overview

This packed hour dives deep into two big stories dominating the New York sports scene: the swirling rumors surrounding Giannis Antetokounmpo's possible trade to the Knicks ("Giannis Watch"), and New York baseball's frigid early-April home games – and the organizational quirks that come with scheduling during a cold snap. The hosts blend insider analysis, fan calls, debate, and classic New York sports banter, tackling tough questions about team chemistry, superstar egos, and what actually drives front office decisions.

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1. Giannis Watch: The Knicks, Milwaukee, and a Potential Blockbuster ([01:53]–[16:10])

The Trade Landscape Shifts

• Giannis’ Leverage and Knicks Rumors

  • Alan Hahn lays out the changed dynamics post-season: with Giannis now having the ability to dictate his destination, he could force the Bucks’ hand into dealing him to New York at a much more team-friendly cost ([03:07]):

    “He can now tell the Bucks, that's where I want to go. New York, make the best deal you can with them, because nowhere else am I going to sign an extension. So no one else is going to offer you anything worth it, worth a damn.”
    — Alan Hahn ([04:10])

• Would Giannis Fit in New York? Concerns Raised

  • The crew voices real concerns about whether Giannis is the right superstar for this market, both from a mental-toughness standpoint and for team chemistry:

    • An unnamed NBA veteran warns Hahn ([05:57]) that Giannis "might be a little too thin skinned to play in New York."
    • Rosenberg wonders:

      “The minute he steps in New York...Everything. Expectations, demand—the first game they lose, what happened? How'd you lose? ...Can he handle that?”
      — Peter Rosenberg ([06:37])

  • Giannis is compared unfavorably to Rangers legend Mark Messier, who thrived under New York pressure ([07:57]):

    “Messier ate it up with a spoon. Loved it...Giannis is not Messier. He’s not going to eat it up. If he goes through the first two years that Mess went through here, Giannis is going to be...going to be wanting out.”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([08:43])

Would This Still Be Brunson’s Team?

• Knicks Hierarchy Debate

  • If Giannis lands, does he become the alpha? The hosts argue Brunson’s leadership would be intact, but public perception could shift instantly:
    • “There's no question this would be Brunson's team. To everybody except one guy.”
      — Alan Hahn ([09:25])
    • Rosenberg notes how even with Finals MVPs, Durant was never seen as truly supplanting Curry in Golden State — but that a Giannis-led title in New York could change everything ([11:18]).

• Chemistry & Culture Risks

  • Hahn warns that “blowing up the team” isn’t just about the roster ([09:36]):

    “It could also be blowing up the structure you have, the chemistry.”

Is It Worth It?

• Superstar Math and Playoff Implications

  • The hosts (and Monica McNutt, quoted via earlier coverage) wonder—should the Knicks risk what they’ve built for Giannis, given injury risks and possible friction?

  • “Nothing is perfect. There's always going to be something to be concerned about. We didn’t even bring up his Achilles...”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([10:43])

  • “If a guy who for seven straight years was an NBA MVP finalist and won a couple of them wants to play for you and he’s still in his prime, how do you say, no?”
    — Alan Hahn ([10:43])

• Final Word on Offseason Stakes

  • Hahn emphasizes: what the Knicks do this postseason (“at worst a battle in the conference final” — [14:38]) will decide their summer.
  • “If he wants to be in New York, and I've said this from the beginning, he has to make New York happen. The Knicks can't be the ones to make it happen.”
    — Alan Hahn ([13:19])

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2. Knicks Playoff Readiness: Coaching, Schemes & Fan Calls ([16:20]–[20:40])

• Are the Knicks Hiding Their Best Stuff?

  • Caller Gilbert wonders if the Knicks have been deliberately keeping offensive sets under wraps for the playoffs, especially the Brunson-Towns pick-and-roll ([16:20]).
  • Hahn confirms the team often “freelances” during the regular season, but playoffs bring more structure ([17:14]):

    “They spend most of the regular season not calling plays on offense...Last night was a little more structured with that pick and roll.”

• Rotation Adjustments

  • Caller Chauncey notices a shift: Brunson and Towns played more together, no longer staggering minutes as much ([18:51]). Hahn confirms it’s by design, but warns about the dangers if both are out at once ([19:26]).

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3. New York Baseball in the Deep Freeze: Scheduling, Petty Rivalries & Fan Impact ([23:43]–[36:57])

Mets vs. Yankees: To Move or Not to Move (the Game Time)?

• Two Teams, Same City, Same Freeze, Different Decisions

  • The Mets moved their games earlier due to extreme cold, the Yankees did not.
    • “It's already 37 degrees as far as the feel like temperature and it's 5:30 and the sun's still out. The Yankees decided not to move the game...”
      — Peter Rosenberg ([24:33])

• Was Pride or Competition at Play?

  • Did the Yankees stick at 7:05 just to not follow the Mets’ lead? The hosts doubt it, but enjoy teasing the idea:

    “I don't want to be the other team.”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([25:16])
    “Wait a minute. ...If George [Steinbrenner] were alive, this is exactly how it would happen.”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([25:43])

  • Alan Hahn dismisses the idea of front-office pettiness ([25:24]):

    “That’s living rent free and that doesn't exist. ...You're going to hate this, but it doesn't exist in that direction.”

• Likely Reality: Ticket Sales & Logistics

  • Rosenberg suggests the Yankees’ home stand, advance ticket sales, and fan expectations are the real reasons for sticking to schedule ([28:03]):

    “This is the Yankees first homestand...maybe the pre-sale made it so it was harder to move.”

• Fan Experience Considered

  • They wonder if fans (and players) would actually prefer a daytime game in brutal cold ([29:45]):

    “I would just think at this particular point of the year...if you asked your players...do you want to play tonight or would you rather move the game to 4 o’ clock?”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([31:28])

Minor League: Even Colder Realities

• Patriots (Yankees’ AA) and Rail Riders (AAA) Call Off Games for Cold
  • The hosts note that in Binghamton, it’s “31 feels like 16 right now” ([35:32]).
  • At the minor league level, brutal cold means no fans and easy postponements ([36:57]).

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4. Quick Hits: Yankees’ Roster/Hotline, Commercial Gripes, & Fandom Tension ([32:14]–[49:09])

Yankees' Third Base Dilemma

• Caller Leo Frustration

  • Leo laments the Yankees’ revolving door at third base and questions GM Brian Cashman’s track record ([32:56]):

    “I've come to that realization that I feel so long as Cashmere is here, we're not going to celebrate 28, man.”

• Why Ryan McMahon Gets a Pass

  • Hahn reminds: McMahon is there for his glove, not his bat—and the Yanks want him to play more “YOLO” at the plate ([34:49]).

Sport & Team Talk Bleeds Into Everyday Life

• Commercial Critiques
  • The crew eviscerates a recent Allstate “Duke vs. Carolina” ad for plot holes ([41:27]–[43:55]):

    “She might even be pregnant...but I didn’t know [she was a Tarheel]? The scriptwriter should resign.”
    — Peter Rosenberg ([42:40])

Fandom Runs Wild

• Personal Anecdotes
  • Alan Hahn shares a story of a relationship trashed by Islanders–Rangers rivalry ([48:01]):

    “Kicked him out. Girl wasn’t allowed to talk to him ever again. Idiot.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Giannis’ Fragility in NY:

  “He might be a little too thin skinned to play in New York.”
  — NBA vet to Alan Hahn ([05:57])

• On Team Chemistry and Superstars:

  “It could also be blowing up the structure you have, the chemistry.”
  — Alan Hahn ([09:36])

• On the Messier Comparison:

  “Giannis is not Messier. ...If he goes through the first two years that Mess went through here, Giannis is going to be wanting out.”
  — Peter Rosenberg ([08:54])

• On Baseball in the Cold:

  “That’s not baseball weather.”
  — Alan Hahn ([35:39])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Giannis Watch, Trade Dynamics: [01:53]–[16:10]
• Knicks Playoff Prep & Fan Calls: [16:20]–[20:40]
• Baseball Scheduling, Yankees/Mets Rivalry: [23:43]–[36:57]
• Yankee Hotline & Team Building: [32:14]–[35:39]
• Commercials & Team Loyalty Stories: [41:27]–[49:09]

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Tone & Takeaway

True to their New York roots, the hosts mix sharp, sometimes irreverent sports debate with insider knowledge and plenty of laughs—balancing passion for the teams with a realistic, sometimes skeptical, view of big-market drama. Whether you care about blockbuster basketball trades, baseball traditions, or just want to hear what’s bugging New York sports fans this week, this episode delivers the goods.

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Transcript

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[Alan Hahn]

Let me update the trivia because of course paying attention to more recent Super Bowls and Of course Drake, May 3rd overall pick, just led the Patriots to the super bowl. So duh, that would make seven since 2004.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't feel bad. I forgot that super bowl by the third quarter.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow, that may be a bad guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no, not at all.

[Alan Hahn]

Why don't they get a bad guy? I'm very memorable.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is what it is. All right, so what's the latest with Giannis Outlin? I know this was a topic of conversation earlier this morning on Get Up. As a matter of fact, our very own Monica McNutt is joining us tomorrow. Oh, first take. I apologize.

[Alan Hahn]

First take when he should dive deep dive into this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a couple of shows that wouldn't have me on on a bet and then Monica McKnight is going to join us tomorrow at 4 o' clock and she's very opinionated on this too. People not loving the idea of Giannis all of a sudden and the Cut.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Dee Dee Dee.

[Guest Analyst]

So this is, to me, is going to be a really interesting separation potentially over the summer, because I would not leverage my future if I didn't have a team that I felt like was in a position to win now, but maybe missing a piece and you can make the trade work in terms of what would be involved. Like, that's the type of team, to me, he is not worth the future of an organization right now, worth building

[Peter Rosenberg]

around, so to speak.

[Guest Analyst]

No, I would not put him as my centerpiece. If you were to honestly look this from the Knicks lens, the future, I don't know that I like that in New York, they are in the window now to win, but when I think of the future, I just don't. I think it's going to cost too much here in New York.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know what the cost is going to be, because we're assuming you're going to have to give up a lot to get them. What we don't understand is what we. What we need to understand. I should say, and this is. I've been kind of talking about this since August, right? I've been trying to tell you guys, if he can just get through this season, he now has leverage. He didn't have leverage in August. The Bucks were going to see the most they could get for a guy who's considered an MVP candidate every year. Knicks didn't have enough to make a trade, at least then, or at least weren't willing to give up what the Bucs would want. So, fine, then they got to the trade deadline, and all these teams lined up trying to make a trade for Giannis, and the Bucks kept saying, yeah, that's not even enough, because everybody knew that you were only going to rent him for this year and next year, and then he can opt out and he can walk. Nobody wants that. But now that it's the summer, there's even less time you have with him. Nobody's given up a lot for him. Not if he says to them, I'm not signing an extension with you. If he warns teams don't trade for me, I'm not signing an extension. Now all of a sudden, the market dissolves to what? One team? So guess now, who can control his destiny? Giannis. He can now tell the Bucks, that's where I want to go. New York, make the best deal you can with them, because nowhere else am I going to sign an extension. So no one else is going to offer you anything worth it, worth a damn. So what. What the Knicks have to offer that doesn't blow up the roster suddenly gets a lot palpable. Right? So it does feel like that. Blowing up the roster, which was certainly a concern in August, I don't think is the same concern in the off season this year. If Giannis is true to his word that this is where he wants to play. And for the first time in this story by Shams on ESPN.com and there was another story elsewhere about all the inner workings and what happened in Milwaukee and how the whole thing blew up is finally public acknowledgement that, yes, indeed, the Knicks and the Bucks talked in August and there was the potential for a trade where Giannis would have ended up where he wanted to go, which is New York, but it didn't happen. And now it's something that is going to be, to me, something to watch. And it might not be something the Knicks are pursuing, but it might be something that Giannis is pursuing. And I'm sorry, he's still one of the best players in the league if he wants to play for you and you can get him at a reasonable trade because of his leverage. Now, if you don't make it to the Finals, how do you not engage? How do you not engage?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you have to.

[Alan Hahn]

Now, here's the other problem. I had a former NBA player tell me, be careful with Giannis, because what we're learning in this whole experience in Milwaukee, how he won't be the bad guy, he won't be accountable for wanting to be traded, that he keeps saying, I want to play, he refuses to let anybody see that he's just done playing in Milwaukee and would rather go somewhere else. He doesn't want that. He doesn't want to be the villain, that he might be a little too thin skinned to play in New York. And I see that, you know what? Like, guys, what happens the minute he steps in New York? What happens?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Everything.

[Alan Hahn]

Everything Expectations demand the first game they lose. What happened? How'd you lose? Giannis, what, he doesn't have this in Milwaukee. He never had to deal with this before now to be questioned about everything. Giannis, you missed five free throws, you know, because he's not a good free throw shooter. And how many questions about his free throw shooting that he gets peppered with, can he handle that? Or would he now start saying, well, I play hard. And is he deflecting criticism? So this one player, like, kind of suggested, like, is buyer beware there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We've talked about that, too, that he's, he's that guy, but desperately doesn't want to be that guy and Milwaukee's one thing, but he's been known, like, after, you know, they get beat. The whole. Is this the. Is this the most important thing in the world? Like, yeah, to Nick fans, it is the most important thing in the world. So we've kind of been a little suspicious of that. It doesn't scare me off because he's that good of a player, but I know hockey and basketball are not the same sport or even in the same level as far as popularity is concerned. But you think of what Mark Messier came. Went through when he came to the Rangers. Now he had five Stanley Cups.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Giannis has one champion, but one of the biggest players in the sport coming to your team for the sole purpose of slaying the dragon. Guess what? Next year is going to be the 54th anniversary of the last time the Knicks won. Exactly how long the Knicks went. The Rangers went without a championship.

[Alan Hahn]

So crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Giannis is going to come in here riding on a white stallion to slay the dragon. Whether he likes that or not, that's be the case. Messier ate it up with a spoon. Loved it. Loved the pressure. Loved everybody looking at him as the man and didn't do it right away. As a matter of fact, they won a President's trophy his first year, got bounced in the second round. Second year, didn't make the playoffs. They're making fun of him on Saturday Night Live.

[Alan Hahn]

Seriously, off the ice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Messier ate it up. Giannis is not Messier. He's not going to eat it up. If he goes through the first two years that mess went through here, Giannis is going to be.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's the other.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Going to be wanting out.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's the other thing. Messier came to a team and was immediately named the captain. Giannis would come to a team that already has one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, this would be similar to Durant going to Golden State.

[Alan Hahn]

Right? Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, because it's Brunson's team. It was Curry's team, but it was a championship team.

[Alan Hahn]

They understood, but they already had the pedigree. Whereas here, they need him.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

And they'd be unloading other good pieces

[Alan Hahn]

here to get him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

None of this, but it would still be Brunson's team, right?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Well.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no, no, no, no. There's no question. There's no question this would be Brunson's day.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

You meant no question to who, right?

[Alan Hahn]

To everybody except one guy. That's. And that's what you have.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

What could go wrong? Just ask the Mets.

[Alan Hahn]

Well done. But that's why? When you hear what Monica said there about blowing the team up, it might not be just roster wise with the players you have, the pieces you have. It could also be blowing up the structure you have, the chemistry that whatever it is that you have. Yes, this is a maddening team. But one thing you can see is, though, when they do get it right, they get it right and it looks good. What you don't know is what does it look like when you bring in somebody of his status and you're telling him, just so you know, this is not your team, this is his team. You're coming into his locker room, you have to fit in to play and help this team win a championship. And what he'll say, he'll realize is when things go wrong, the first thing people will say is, giannis, what happened? Yeah, well, what are you looking at me for? So that's the dangerous game. But again, if this team falls short, I'm sorry, if a guy who for seven straight years was an NBA MVP finalist and won a couple of them wants to play for you and he's still in his prime, how do you say, no?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you can't. But nothing is perfect. There's always going to be something to be concerned about. We didn't even bring up his Achilles, which is also something you would have to say.

[Alan Hahn]

He wants to play. They're saying that he won't play, but there's a big mess going on there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Injuries and what they could lead to, that's going to be a concern.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So nothing's perfect. You still have to do it. He's too good of a player. But it is interesting, and to Peter's point, the reason it's not a complete comparison to the warriors is the warriors are coming off a championship. It was Curry's team. Curry had the rings. It's Brunson's team. But Brunson doesn't have the ring.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Giannis is brought in to win the ring.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Correct. So it didn't work. We need to go get this guy. Oh, by the way, buddy, don't think it's your team. It's the other guy's team who was

[Peter Rosenberg]

here when they couldn't win. And correct me if I'm wrong, Durant was winning MVPs in the Finals and it was still Curry's team. Yes, I don't think that would be the case here. If Giannis leads the Knicks to a championship next year and is the mvp, as much as Nick fans love Brunson, doesn't it then kind of become Giannis's team.

[Alan Hahn]

Giannis is celebrated.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

If he's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Giannis brings the championship, he's the Finals

[Alan Hahn]

mvp because he did what he did a couple of years ago against Phoenix and just went. He just detonated in that finals and suddenly had a point game after. It looked like he messed up his knee. He was making free throws. Remember. Remember, the crowds would count when he was at the free throw line. They would count down because he took so long at the foul line that opposing crowds were counting to taunt him. And then he had that unbelievable game where he just didn't miss a free throw. And if he does that, yeah, we know he has that in him. We know. And that's what makes it intriguing. It's. It's unbelievable. But that's where we are now. As the playoffs were a week away from starting a journey for the Knicks, which could either end in okay. This team proves that they really do need more time, keep them together. They got closer this year, or maybe they did it. You never know. But if something goes wrong and this guy in the summer or at the draft has got his agent, that you could see the end game beginning already in Milwaukee, they're doing stories on how toxic this season was. They have a quote from a source close to the team saying this is as toxic of a team situation as any in the league. They waited until the very end on Giannis, and now everyone knows. Everyone knows he wants out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And so they know they have to now trade him. Not do you want to trade him now? It's. They have to trade them. And you know what comes after they trade him? They're going to be in lottery hell for a long time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, for a long time.

[Alan Hahn]

They are going to try to get the most they can, and Giannis is going to decide where he wants to go. This is going to be a huge. I've been telling you guys this next summer. Next summer. Remember? I kept saying it. Next summer. This is going to be the story of the summer. It's going to be a dramatic breakup. And if he wants to be in New York, and I've said this from the beginning, he has to make New York happen. The Knicks can't be the ones to make it happen.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I just. I tend to be on the same page as Monica.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't think it's worth it.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

What I've. I went from feeling like more than any other player in this league, and that's right up there with. With Luca now Wemby and Joker. He's an instantly make Your team a

[Alan Hahn]

contender kind of play. There's no question.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I went from feeling that way to now after just the way he's talked. I just, I feel like I'm good. Like this lack of ownership, this lack of, like being authentic. I just don't trust it.

[Alan Hahn]

That's why. And again, let's keep caveating. If the Knicks have a nice run here and they play, they have a good run in the playoffs and they show you, then there's no reason to mess with the team. This is all with. This is what's hanging over this Knicks team. What you do in this playoff run right now could decide whether.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is that window conference.

[Alan Hahn]

I think, I think the. At worst a battle in the conference final.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

So they lose.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Swept in the conference final is a problem.

[Alan Hahn]

Still not good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Because that.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Honestly, it's worth nothing at this point

[Alan Hahn]

because the conference final would be Detroit.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

And remember, they last year lost a

[Alan Hahn]

battle in the conference final six, I believe.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

So we got to do it again. Right. At least that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

At least.

[Alan Hahn]

At worst. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

And the interesting part is, and getting

[Alan Hahn]

to the finals is really like, that's the goal. And if OKC's there, you can understand. Gonna be tough to be that kind of a team. But if somebody else is there, Denver, who they've beaten twice this year. Spurs, who they've beaten twice this year. All bets are off. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Especially the Nuggets. They own the Nuggets.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, they do. It's amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is great.

[Alan Hahn]

So, but, but that's again, as we get ready for the playoffs, there's two things at play. There's the this team and what they can finally accomplish now that we've waited all year to get to the part that matters. This is the Yankee ism now of the Knicks, which is. All that matters is October. Well, here's your October. And then there's if it doesn't happen, the Greeks waiting and he wants out. And it's finally starting to percolate. And you are going to be at the top of his list. And you might have to go, well, we gave this team a chance. It wasn't enough time to make the move. So it's a very dramatic story. But the whole thing about what happened IN Milwaukee is ESPN.com right now. And it's. I hate to say it, but it's. Everything I've told you guys is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, we've been on this for a while and it's always going to be a conversation. Certainly will be if there's an early exit. Let's go To Gill in Brooklyn. You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Gilbert.

[Caller Gilbert]

Hey, what's going on guys? How's everything going?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's going very.

[Caller Gilbert]

Alan, I, I don't know how close you are. Sorry about that, Don. Alan, I don't know how close you are to the, to the practices these guys go through during the course of the week or whenever they can get a chance to go. But for this part of this year and these guys supposedly not understand the system that they're running, I don't, one, I don't buy it. But two, I think they've purposely held back on what they do offensively and as well as some of their defensive schemes for the playoffs. Because what I saw last night, that's not something that you just installed and all of a sudden it looked good. I believe they're holding back that pick and roll with Brunson and Cat and not exposing it as much as they would if it was the playoffs. What do you think?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I get that part. And you're right about this because Brown has said it. They spend most of the regular season not calling plays on offense. He was basically like, we have like a foundation. And then you play off that like freelance, figure it out. And that's why there were times that the offenses looked lost. That's why Cat looked lost. Because it was pretty much just playing the flow. See what happens last night was a little more structured with that pick and roll, but still it was flow off of it. And that's why there were so many turnovers early. But then once they got it, Atlanta didn't know what to do with it. So we'll see if they can keep building off it because I loved it. I thought it looked great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chauncey and Westwood, you're on espn New York.

[Caller Chauncey]

Hey, what's up guys? Good show so far.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Thanks, man.

[Caller Chauncey]

So one thing I can. Yeah, who knows what happens next? But one thing I can't understand about, or I can't stand about what they talk about the Celtics series last year, how it was lucky that the Knicks came back from, from 20 down in two games. Like there's some 20 point mercy rule that I'm not aware of. Like the Celtics played good enough to go up 20, the Knicks played well enough to get the 20 points back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's no way to live though.

[Caller Chauncey]

Game of run.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You would agree that if, if game one, they're down 20, you got to figure the worm's going to turn. It's no way to live. Maybe it wasn't lucky because they did do it, but you don't want to live that.

[Alan Hahn]

By the way, they did it twice, right?

[Caller Chauncey]

Yeah, they, they go up, they go up 20 because, you know, they were actually shooting hot from three and you know, law of averages, eventually they cooled

[Alan Hahn]

down and that's exactly what happened.

[Caller Chauncey]

Exactly. So. But until last night, the, the main story is the Brunson and Towns two man game, which we've been clamoring for all year and even last year. And we wonder where it's been. But Alan, let me know if you what you think about this, because I noticed that instead of having Cat with the second unit start the second quarter and the fourth quarter, it was Mitchell Robinson with that unit and Brunson and Towns played together. So is that a thing where Mike Brown's like, okay, I'm forcing you guys to play together. I'm not staggering your minutes because we

[Alan Hahn]

got to figure it out? No, no, that's a great observation. We were, as we're in the studio watching the game in the studio at msg, we were all noticing the rotation was different because normally you're right midway through the first, Cat comes out, Brunson plays the whole first quarter, Mitch comes in, and then Cat starts the second quarter by himself without Brunson. First half, they were tethered and that rotation suddenly was different. It's also why they went up 7. Then the bench came in and the bench gave it all back. Because I looked at the lineup he put out there, I'm like, who's your score? They don't have Brunson and Towns both off the court. Who's scoring on this? You know, so they struggled with that because they wanted to keep those two together. And that's the danger, is if you play them together a lot now, you don't have a creator on the court, a score, a main piece in another five man unit that can buy you some, some time. So that's also something you got to consider. But it's a great observation. They spent a lot more time on the floor together and their offense was really good. Of course, the more time they spend together on the court, their defense is something that teams can pick on as well.

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

game in Terra Santa.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aaron Boone spoke before the game against the A's tonight. Was there any discussion about moving your games? Not much.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean there was a little talk

[Peter Rosenberg]

about it, you know, we heard some things. But it's going to be cold here the next couple of days. We whatever time we play, so we'll be ready for that. Now let me be that guy. I know it's not Thursday. They were talking about it and jump me if you want. And they're about to announce their move in the games. But the Mets do it first. Do they go, stop, I don't want to be the other team.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that does it. No, we're not going to do it. No, see that's I know it's petty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know it's juvenile. I'm just asking.

[Alan Hahn]

That's living rent free and that doesn't exist. You're going to hate this, but it doesn't exist in that direction.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh yeah, that's why they're chanting Soto sucks over the weekend. Yeah, that can't happen.

[Alan Hahn]

So you asked me, did an organization make a decision? Not did fans make a decision?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I listen.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want George style Renner.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait a minute. George Steinbrenner. I'm telling. If George were alive, everybody told, well George were alive, this is exactly how it would happen. I'm not having the Mets make that decision for us. They're going to play. They're going to move their games to four. Heck, we're going to start our game at 10 at night.

[Alan Hahn]

We don't 705. That's when we play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were like 705. Let that minor league team over there and Flushing change their game. I'm, I'm just, I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

Our games. I don't believe to play at 705 then I expect to play at 410.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. Because I'm really. I'm having trouble understanding why they wouldn't move it now. I'm sure. 1-800-919-3776 maybe Yankee fans know. Hey, they sold more tickets. They don't want to. It's still a dog game, right? It's still A's. They're awful. The Giant Mets are playing the Diamondbacks. Again, not an attractive sell. It's not like the Red Sox are in town. Not like the Phillies are in town. All right. It's pretty even as far as like level of competition is concerned. It's like general interest that New York has in Arizona and Sacramento. Vegas slash Oakland eights. All right, so I'm sure the reason is hey, we've got more presale. Maybe they talked to their season ticket holders and said we don't mind. But it just two organizations play in the same city, same thing and one made a decision, the other one didn't and according to Aaron Boone said like they flirted with it for a second but nah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, so we talked about it but you know, that's it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. All right, so the answer is no to you. I'll ask Peter. Do you think the timing of the Mets announcing it first had anything to do with the Yankees not moving their game to earlier

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

at the risk of being a bad talk show host? No, I don't think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, now I, I don't disagree with you. I just thought it was worth the ask, that's all. I don't think that they're that petty and that small to do it, but I just figured it was worth the ask. You're sitting around there, they're competition and hey, you're the Yankees and you kind of lead the cause. Right. Like ah, listen, is Somerset.

[Alan Hahn]

Are they playing yet?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I think this weekend is there first.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, so you don't have any of that. So like I was, I was curious to see if like anybody like the Ducks aren't playing yet. Like anybody else did the same thing that might, might be playing tonight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It makes sense.

[Alan Hahn]

Minor leagues.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But again the logistics of the Yankees moving the game, I wouldn't doubt if they've got more of a pre sale.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because this is the Yankees first homestand. This is technically the Mets second home stand because they played those three games at home and then they went on the road and they came back. This is still the first home stand of the year. So maybe the presale made it so it was harder to move them for the Mets because again, Mets, Diamondbacks, not overly attractive. It's not opening weekend. It's not the first home stand of the year. That probably is the reason. I just thought I'd ask why. Why can't I stir it up a little bit?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you're not. Because you're giving in too easily. I just told you that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I'm not playing. I don't, I don't play reindeer.

[Alan Hahn]

That's something that would happen. Maybe the other way, but not. But why do you follow in the Yankees lead. But this is where Yankees don't care. What the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why do you say that?

[Alan Hahn]

Because it's true. Well, what evidence, Fans.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What evidence do you have, fans?

[Alan Hahn]

What do you mean, what evidence do I have?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because other than you just being an arrogant Yankee fan, why would it be

[Alan Hahn]

in my mentality to care that the Mets decided they were going to move the game? And now I don't want to let me make my players and fans suffer just because I don't want to follow the Mets.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

No, I think the more we talked

[Alan Hahn]

about it, we're like, yeah, let's just play.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I think the more interesting piece here is what is the logic?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think, I don't know what the logic is.

[Alan Hahn]

I think Boone said the logic. It's like it's, it's, it's going to be cold for both teams.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

We're just going to play like that was on the ticket. That's what we sold. That's our schedule.

[Alan Hahn]

Already ready to do this. Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, I'll be interested to see.

[Alan Hahn]

I wouldn't be surprised if the players didn't say, you know what, I don't want to play early. Like, give me the morning.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, no, no, no. If I, if I listen, if it's a travel day, you know, give me the day game. Like, I, I, But I think most players, like, listen, I didn't play baseball on a major league level, but we all played baseball. These are the days I don't want to play. 29 degree feel like temperature, 20 degrees. This is not going to be fun for these players.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

It's not like football where you see players go run outside for warmups with their shirt off. Like, let some people. Baseball does not

[Peter Rosenberg]

have flies at Citi Field right now. Right. So obviously moving into four o' clock wasn't. It wasn't with this crowd again, I didn't expect it to be great because it's still cold, even with the sun,

[Alan Hahn]

even with the free ticket.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I'm watching the other TV where one of the thinnest basketball players I've ever seen is just knocking down one tray after another.

[Alan Hahn]

Evans.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I, I'll be interested to see how many people are in the building tonight at Yankee Stadium because it's going to feel really, really.

[Alan Hahn]

Are you going? That's what I want to know. Who's going?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

There's no chance now.

[Alan Hahn]

When I was a kid, even, Even if you're listening, 800-936.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

You're going.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I'm going to the game. I'm prepared. I got my hand warmers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I want to know your part.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah, take us through now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to hear from people that wouldn't be able to go if they moved at the 4 o' clock because obviously you'd be biased to say, I'm glad they didn't change it, of course. But if you were somebody that had the whole day free, were you rooting for him to keep it at 7:05 or were you hoping they'd move it to 41-800-919-3776? I'd be curious to know. But I think it's just human nature. I don't think it's to the extent the way George was like, George went, he hated the Mets. He just wanted all the shine on his team.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you really think, like they were twisting their mustaches like, oh, the Mets did it. We can't do it. Like, they don't care.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would, I would think so.

[Alan Hahn]

You're just doing the right thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But like Peter, you said, I don't know if this is the right thing to do again, if it was going to cost them X amount of dollars, maybe it was just a financial decision.

[Alan Hahn]

I would probably lean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I would just think at this particular point of the year, we could lose. Nobody wants to lose money. But if you asked your players, that's who she'd ask, right? Like, do you want to play tonight or would you rather move the game to 4 o'?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Clock?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, but yeah, it's going to be cold for both teams. I get it. But how do your fans feel about it? How do your players feel about it? Like somebody asked yesterday, what if this was a World Series game? First of all, Fox wouldn't let you move the game. But is it a possibility that they might think you know, let's try to

[Alan Hahn]

play this game tomorrow, haven't we?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't want to decide a championship based on, you know, 29 degree feel like temperature with 20 degree winds. It's not the way baseball is supposed to be played. I don't know, just their thoughts. 1-800-919-3776. Leo is in the Bronx. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Leo?

[Caller Leo]

Hey guys, thanks so much for, as always, for taking my call. I called about Ryan, I called about Ryan McMahon, but before I get to him, I just want to say thank you once again for two things. First of all, for giving me a chance with Anthony's drop with the mo and for last month letting me call about my son Jackson being born. So I just want to say thank you for those two things, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How was that? How is Jackson? How's that going?

[Caller Leo]

You know what? He's great, man. He's sweeping in my arms right now. I've never loved anything like it, like, like, like him before and it's, I never loved anything like, like him before and it's hard to sleep, but he's worth it, you know.

[Alan Hahn]

Hear him in the background.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's got him right there, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller Leo]

Oh, man, he's the best. He's the best. Just put him to sleep, you know. But I just, I don't want to waste too much of your time, guys. Just want to say about Ryan, back line, right, McMahon, man, he's just at 2 right now. What he's batting like 190 something with the Yankees and his like highest batting average at one point, I believe he was like 250. I mean, like, it just sucks that we, you know, that we don't have a third baseman since a route left. And I'm just concerned that, you know, we're not going to be able to celebrate 28 so long as Cashman is here because he keeps, he keeps having these. Yeah, he, he hits on Judge, one of the best players ever. But then we go like 10 years without having a real third basement chase Hadley, Torre is, or Shella and Donald. I mean, just like I'm so, I'm so frustrated to, to say it, but I've come to that realization that I feel so long as Cashmere is here, we're not going to celebrate 28, man. Well, thank you, guys.

[Alan Hahn]

I can't, I can't argue with connecting those two, saying as long as he's here, we're not going to win.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

It's hard to believe I wouldn't put this on Ryan McMahon. I mean he's a plus defender who's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's the key. That's why he's here.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's here to. He's here for your defense. You know, he's going to not be a big hitter. They think he's being too careful at bat. It's almost like he knows, like I know I got to deliver. I'm not a big time hitter. And I think he's being selective and careful and they. This year more. This year more than ever. The Yankees have been actually uber aggressive on the base pads and at the plate normally. Aren't they very patient? Right, Don? Like they're very. They'll work count stuff. They want them this year to be a little more aggressive and they want him to not go up to the plate and be selective and careful. They want him to just kind of yolo. Let's just get up there and let's go. And you know, he's getting.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Ah, the old YOLO technique.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, hey, I mean, what else can work? But he's getting a night off tonight. Rosario is going to play and they just, they got to get him just, just serviceable. But his glove is elite.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was right and wrong. Thanks to Will for calling my attention to it. The Patriots don't start at home until next week, but they were. They did have a scheduled game tonight in Binghamton. Oh, the Rumble Ponies. That's the Mets Double A affiliate. And the game tonight was postponed because of cold and wind conditions up there at bingo. It probably is even if you want to look it up, but I'm sure it's much colder.

[Alan Hahn]

Still have Bingham.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're going to have a doubleheader starting at 400 tomorrow. That seemed like it's going to be a little bit warmer tomorrow, but I.

[Alan Hahn]

We got bingo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I am ashamed.

[Alan Hahn]

31 feels like 16 right now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's, that's a tough feel. That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's different. That's completely different.

[Alan Hahn]

That's not baseball weather.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it would have been interesting if the Patriots were home, considering it's the same organization. Yep. Would they have played? I'm sure it's a financial thing. I'm sure the Mets looked at the presale for the Diamondbacks and said, you know what? It's an easier move. I wouldn't be surprised if Yankees A's against the first home stand of the year had too high of a presale to do it. That's probably what came down to it. But I wanted to stir it up a little bit though. The reason I didn't take it to the hilt is I don't believe either that it was going to be that crazy. Another one that will sends the the Rail Riders, the Yankees Triple A affiliate. Right. Because that's the way it is.

[Alan Hahn]

Wilkes Barry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They postpone their game tonight, huh?

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it was their opening night because of below freezing wind chills and cold temperatures. So I don't know what's what the

[Alan Hahn]

see what it is in Scantron.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're going to have their new opening night tomorrow and then they'll play a double header on Friday. It feels like same organization.

[Alan Hahn]

See the feels like feels like for the for a game tonight would be in the twenties in Scranton and you're not doing that at a minor league ballpark.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

There's a lot more to do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Literally nobody will go right.

[Alan Hahn]

That's understandable. The Yankees are just. We're going to play. That's it. We're going to play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, Peter will tell you from way back that if I were to come back as anything, it would be a continuity.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I'll tell you from way back. Don would like to be a continuity director. Sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is a good song.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

What song is it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

This Bob Seeger against the Wind. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Janie was lovely. She was the queen of my nights.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Can I ask the question?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do it. Why?

[Alan Hahn]

Why? Well, you'd have to ask Jacob why was. Oh, why? Why play?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

We're giving away tickets to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's retired so there's no.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Oh, that's Anthony joking.

[Alan Hahn]

Not that we're really giving away tickets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This would be something we'd give tickets.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

No, that's why Anthony made the joke and it was brilliant. I said, why are we giving it? Why we do this? He said, because we're giving away tickets. But Jake, I'm just curious why Bob Seeger?

[Alan Hahn]

There's a lot of wind talk. It was either Dust in the Wind

[Peter Rosenberg]

by Kansas, Blown in the Wind by Bob Dylan. I like what he's I like what he's doing.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a dusty May Coach won a champions last night. That was a good payoff. I enjoyed that.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I didn't know that we'd go there. Anybody. I'm sorry, Don, you were saying something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'd be a continuity director.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I think I'd be very good in commercials, too. We saw it throughout the tournament. And congratulations to Michigan, by the way, beating UConn last night by six and winning their first national championship since 1989, when my co host, Peter Rosenberg was just 10 years old.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Ramil Robinson.

[Alan Hahn]

I graduated high school.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The all state commercial in which the Duke fan goes to visit his new girlfriend's parents. And it's a North Carolina house. Yeah. What are we doing? So they know each other. They're dating to the point now we want to take the relationship to the next level. And I want to introduce you to my parents. And you didn't know she was a North Carolina and he was a Duke fan. And you just so coincidentally happen to show up with a Duke shirt. Trying too hard, bro. Trying too hard. I get it's the tournament and we want to get Duke in North Carolina involved in the commercial.

[Alan Hahn]

No, you just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Skull. Don't be stupid. It makes zero sense. They've meeting the parents that probably. Probably did the deed already. Probably.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, easily.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She might even be pregnant. I don't know. I don't want to get in their house.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, but I didn't know. Like sick. Yo, yo, North Carolina fans with a shade to the front door. Who has a shade of a door? But it didn't come up in conversation while you were dating this woman.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Morons. The scriptwriter should resign.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what I mean? I dope.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

He said he's angry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He is.

[Alan Hahn]

But that was your interpretation. I had a different one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's that one?

[Alan Hahn]

Because of what he says.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Take me through that.

[Alan Hahn]

He picked the wrong. Like that he chose the wrong school. Which tells me he doesn't really like sports. Not really into sports. Not that kind of guy. He knew she liked her family was like college fans and all. But he's like, I don't know about school. And so he remembered blue and just put on a Duke shirt, walked in

[Peter Rosenberg]

and went, oh, you know what? I wouldn't want to for anybody.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, he almost speculated.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was that.

[Alan Hahn]

Like he was so out of touch of sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

That he was like, oh, they're a sporto family. I don't know. It's a bad job by him. You know what I mean? You have to hear what he says in the commercial. He makes it Sound like I chose the wrong shirt. It's like he did chose the wrong

[Peter Rosenberg]

person to write the script.

[Alan Hahn]

But not only that. Like, one of the first questions I always ask is, if you're a sports fan, what teams do you support? Who's your team?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

How would it not come up?

[Alan Hahn]

It would definitely come up. Parents are psycho.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Psycho.

[Alan Hahn]

The North Carolina fans.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Because think about it. Most people you date, their parents don't care that much about sports. They're active, they dress up for the

[Alan Hahn]

kids in the house. But again, he doesn't really care about her because he didn't listen. She told him, he was like, ah, they're talking sports. I don't know about this stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Cuz he's out.

[Alan Hahn]

He's out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right? Let's just say trying to hard, bro. Alan, Han is right, okay? And he's not a sports fan. Doesn't get it.

[Alan Hahn]

No Camp guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But she knows he goes to Duke.

[Alan Hahn]

No, he. I'm telling you, he just got a shirt just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it says Duke.

[Alan Hahn]

It just happened to be like, they're in North Carolina. It might be Duke. I don't throw it on. Well, goes over. He's like, up. Oh, that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I picked.

[Alan Hahn]

I chose poorly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you know, it's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all I got.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

No, it is odd.

[Alan Hahn]

You think he just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I just think that.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

No, they were the zero effort made.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Write a script because they don't get it. They don't what? They don't put anything together.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

What company was this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Allstate.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I'm looking right now. I want to watch again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And we're talking about it, so I guess it did its job. I'm just saying you take pride in what you do. How do you write that script? Wouldn't you want it to make some sense?

[Alan Hahn]

Some sense?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Some sense. Yeah, but they don't think I don't know what it is. I told you this a million years ago. I forget the car company. Four wheel drive can drive through anything. It's snowing out. The kids look out the window. Snow day. They're jumping up and down to the bed. And the father goes, come on, five minutes. We're going. What is he taking them to a school that's closed? And the kids freeze to death like the Shining?

[Caller Gilbert]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just because you have a four wheel drive, that means the school just happens to be open for you, you idiot.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

No, Allen is right. I'm watching the commercial. I'm not hearing it, but I'm watching it and seeing what the face is supposed to be. He doesn't care about sports.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

He got confused. She was like, my parents are big Carolina fans. He doesn't know the difference. And he got confused and he bought a Duke shirt, threw it on, thinking, I'm killing it. I'm showing up in the Duke shirt. They look at him, they go, it's North Carolina Jabroni. And then he closes the door, embarrassed because he got it wrong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, then she's got to strain him out.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, no, she broke up with him. And he's in the car.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

He left on his checks, the text. And he's like, you know, whatever, girlfriend. They go up. No, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

You still think it's a stupid commercial?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Very stupid. Because again, this is a read, first of all. It's a read. And. And you might be right.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

That's what I think it's supposed to be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they say I'm not a sports fan. So these are bad people.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Believe that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're sending the kid out. This could be the love of their daughter's life.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

And no one can even laugh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And she's all on board.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, she's like, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, she's done. No, no, he's not a sports fan. He's just an idiot. So what? Well, it's like, it's dumb date.

[Alan Hahn]

Was that the first time you ever met her?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, because they can't. They don't the whole thing. Don't try.

[Alan Hahn]

No, they don't. But you know, much money, that commercial, throw it together.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They think we're all morons. And you know what? Most of us are. But for the few people that. At least for. On a good day when I'm not, I just notice you're not trying, man.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I just so funny. I just remember because this conversation that in like middle school, seventh and eighth grade, I. Where I was very into just buying sports clothes all the time. The hardcore Redskins fan already loved the Celtics, already loved the Penguins. But, like, I wasn't locked in. And I rooted for Georgetown, but I didn't go to Maryland yet. Didn't think I was going to Maryland. In fact, there was no Duke. Maryland rivalry yet. I just now remembered that I had like a Duke basketball shirt when I was like 12, 13 years old. And it struck me how fraudulent that would look.

[Alan Hahn]

It happens.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

But like, that team was so popular. We're talking 1991.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

It was just like, you go to the store, they had Duke shirts, they

[Alan Hahn]

had North Carolina shirts and Laitner.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

It was just like, I didn't hate them yet. I didn't know to Hate yet. I hadn't learned the hate.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't learn hate?

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

I had a friend of mine who, he met a girl, they were like, they were cool. Her family was cool. Went over to their house, I remember this. And he was a die hard Rangers fan. Dad was a big Islanders fan. And the kid wouldn't let it go. Wouldn't let it go. Like just the dad was teasing him a little bit about the Rangers in 1940, blah, blah, blah. And then he starts going. And I'm like, But like chill. Like we, it's not like you were a grown kid. We were like 17. I'm like, leave it alone. And he just keeps going. Now he's like under the dad's skin. Kicked him out. Girl wasn't allowed to talk to him ever again. Idiot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they were a fan. Like why would the kid serve abuse if he's not a fan?

[Alan Hahn]

No, he was messing with him, teasing him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Then the kids like he went in and it's like, da na na, don't do that. He couldn't let it go. And I'm like, bud, we're going to get torn out. Like, what are you doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fandom make you do crazy things.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, zipper key should have made you do smart things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know, who knows what they're doing. The old separate rings end.

[Alan Hahn]

They certainly do what they're going to do at my house. By the way, brilliant by you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know.

[Peter Rosenberg (alternate or co-host)]

I thought he was going to say enn.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. No, no projects at the house. Come on, it's spring. I know it doesn't feel like it yet, but you know, you get to spring, you start thinking about things that the house needs. Updates, upgrades. We're doing a project right now, I told you guys doing replacing old windows that need to be replaced, putting a new one in as well. And it's really exciting. But what's most exciting is that we're dealing with a great company called Ring's End. Now why rings end? You tell me. Well, you ask me. Well, I'll tell you. Because they work with pro contractors who build and remodel for a living. That's why pros trust them. So we can too, right? They have premium brands in more than just windows, by the way. Doors, decking, paint, lumber, kitchens, all the stuff that you would need to do some, some type of updates, upgrades around your house. This is the place you want to go. They have built to last high end product lines that the contractors rely on. They're not a national chain, they are local, regional expertise. They have eight full service lumber yards in Connecticut and Westchester county and 12 free standing paint centers. Ring's End is family owned and operated since 1902. They have deep northeast roots and they support local builders and communities. Now listen, if you can't make it to a store, just do this. Shop [e-mail] check them out ringsend.com thanks

[Don Hahn]

for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

[Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers

[Rich Eisen]

from 30 for 30 podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you say someone got shot? Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami

[Alan Hahn]

gunned down the key to this case. It's Brian.

[Caller Leo]

An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody.

[Alan Hahn]

This might be a hit.

[Caller Leo]

You want the truth?

[Alan Hahn]

They just want a conviction.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us.

[Rich Eisen]

Murder at the U. Listen now.