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This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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That sounds like heaven to me.
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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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All right, just one game tonight. Islanders visiting the Capitals in Washington at 7. Tullamore do the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullamore Dew honey. During today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. All right, as I mentioned, two of the biggest coaches, I guess coach and manager back on Saturday, our very own Gary Myers did his show noon to 3. I believe it is on Saturdays here on ESPN. New York had John Harbaugh on. And earlier today on TMKs, Michael K had Aaron Boone realize. Aaron Boone left today to go down to Florida for spring training.
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He left today.
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He left today.
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Why wouldn't he have left before the storm came? Just to avoid the storm.
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Well, you mean from last week?
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Yeah.
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He has to be there for a long time. You don't want to rush. He's leaving his kids, you know, fair kids are in school. I'm just saying he'll get plenty of time in Florida. Don't you worry about it.
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Oh, there'll be lots of time.
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All day.
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Boom. Although it's not that great down there right now.
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It's like I heard there's been freezing.
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The 20s at night.
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Well, the thing watching the, you know, the lightning Bruin game in Tampa Stadium series and you could see their breath I looked at was 39 degrees at face off in Tampa, Florida.
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I was hearing that from people in Saudi because a lot of, you know, a lot of WWE people live in Florida and they were saying, yeah, 30s in Orlando and 20s flurries, snow flurries. Yeah, it's crazy. No, there's something going on, guys. Next week we finally get over 32 in the in the forecast as our high the next next Tuesday.
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That sucks.
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Yeah, it's a shame.
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Rink is going to start.
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It still won't be enough skate all weekend. There's no rain in the forecast to melt this damn snow.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah, well, you're living a different life out. I'm living in hell.
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You understand how incredible it is. There are ice boats, ice boats out in like Shinnecock, like it's unreal. What you're seeing. Great South Bay.
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What's an ice skate?
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Well, It's a boat that has, like, rails on it, and it still has a sail and it just glides along the ice.
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You know about this?
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Thus he might be making it. If he just told me April Fools, I'll be like, all right.
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But it's February. It's Groundhog's Day.
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Oh, what happens?
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Six. Six more weeks.
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Of course, according. Is that. According to Phil or Chuck?
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Both of them.
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Phil.
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Staten Island Chuck and Punk Satoni Phil both.
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Did you guys see the graphic of Phil over in Pennsylvania's hit rate? Oh, it's way Phil. No, no. Is he a Hall of Fame Chuck? Chuck's crushing. Oh, yeah.
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Hall of Famer.
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And baseball. He's shooting 38%. Yeah, baseball three.
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That's pretty good.
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Well, that. But why are we listening to the rodent thing? No, no, you don't listen. Listen to. Listen to Chuck. Here's the. And this is the. I don't trust him either.
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What's Chuck's number?
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Way better. But the new. Remember, this is new Chuck because de Blasio killed old Chuck.
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He killed him.
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Remember that?
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Well, no, he bit him. What happened?
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No, no, no.
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He.
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No, no, De Blasio didn't bite Chuck.
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No, no, no.
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Chuck bit de Blasio, and then he.
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He.
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He bit him, and we.
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We all wanted to get a turn, and he.
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And he. And de Blasio dropped Chuck.
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Oh, no.
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And he died.
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I did not know this.
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Yeah, well, Horrible.
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Yeah, I. I don't want to blow that either.
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And DiMaggio is tall. That's a tall drink of water.
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So if you drop him, just imagine. That wasn't the worst thing that happened.
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Yeah, well, it was upsetting, though.
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I have the numbers, by the way.
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Go ahead.
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Punxatany Phil, 35%.
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Not good.
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Staten Island Chuck, 85%.
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See? That's very good.
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Look at that. Pux.
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Tiny Phil, of course.
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The National Weather service, prognosticating since 1887, right before the TMK show start.
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That is a very old groundhog.
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Malvern Mel.
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Malvern Mel.
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55%.
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I'll take that. And Holtsville.
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How.
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No, Holtsville is one of two, right?
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Yeah. Where's Holtsville?
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How.
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I grew up. I grew up in. Near there.
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That's a real place.
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That's a real place.
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Right next to Ron Konkoma.
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Good for.
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It pains me to blow up all.
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Their spots, but it's yo, yo.
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It's yo, yo, yo. Because nobody's been able to explain to me whether the groundhog sees his shadow or not, how the groundhog is Supposed to then speak it to the person that then can announce it. Because the last I checked, these animals can't speak.
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No, they go back in.
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I am going to just go into the assumption that it's all made up. So have fun with it. All right?
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It's been going on since 86.
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Yeah.
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And since 1886, winter ends when it ends. Not because a groundhog tells you. Okay, I understand winter. No, no, because it is no fun. Because the fact that this gets treated as a legitimate thing makes me sick. Now, do I want to watch the news and hear about who got stabbed, who got shot, who died in their sleep?
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No.
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No, I don't. This is fine. But I also needed a graphic of what Punxsutawney Phil had to say. Hell of a movie with Bill Murray.
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You wouldn't have a movie. There wouldn't be a movie.
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But this is a Reindeer Game. That is not fun, remotely entertaining and colossally stupid.
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See, there would be no movie if this wasn't a great thing. Now you have the movie. It goes with it. It's all part of Americana.
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Can somebody in this room agree with.
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Me that it's Yo Yo? Yes, it's completely all right.
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Thank you. How could it not be?
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We didn't say it wasn't Yo Yo.
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That doesn't mean I want to kill Chuck or How do you kill anyone?
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I don't want it to be.
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He wants to vote against people in that situation.
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It's 4 degrees outside, and then a groundhog magically tells somebody that we're going to get an early spring. And then it happens, and I get excited. Then I'm a mental patient.
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Well, we need this.
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And we don't need.
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Just.
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We need to feel like the end of the day.
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Just get to April. Okay.
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People just want days to have six weeks.
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Means mid March. That's a long time to wait.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, winter sucks. I get it. And it's usually worse than that. It's not more six weeks. It's really.
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We've had snow in April.
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It's eight weeks. It's nine weeks. Generally, it's. Right now, I just shout out to everyone. Shout out to all the apartment dwellers in the five boroughs. It's.
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You won't see your car until April.
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It's tough living right now. Like, I know New York City is New York City, and. But no matter. Like, it's just not great being in the city right now. It's nasty. Walking everywhere is gross. I took the train to and fro twice today. I went downtown at 7am to do our show. Ebro, Laura Rosenberg. We had our first live show in our studio that we built.
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Okay.
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A lot of.
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Lot of. Some people saying, not as nice as this. Some people saying, it's the nicest studio I work in.
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I don't know.
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But.
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But if you want to check it out, it's up.
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But.
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But I went downtown once, and then I went downtown again to do our show. It is not a great time to be out and about in the city.
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It's just.
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No, it's rough.
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But we'll get dirty urine, snow. You know, like on my block where everyone has a dog.
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It's pretty much the advice of Frank Zappa.
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Pretty much my whole backyard.
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But don't worry about it. Pretty soon. Pretty soon we'll be sitting here going, it's 100 degrees today. My God, it's stifling. I can't even breathe on the roof.
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Oh, when do we get to go on the roof?
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You know, I don't.
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I don't. I have to tell you, though, guys, I don't think it ever gets worse than, like, the last couple of weeks. Like, even in the dead of summer, if your air conditioning is working. I would always prefer that. I'd rather go outside and have it be sweaty when I'm moving around.
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Yeah.
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Then like tonight when I walk to the train again, every walk is just miserable.
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And also the fact that, you know, we're very fortunate enough to have jobs where we have to travel and it's never gonna get. It's too hot to travel.
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Right.
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But you get this weather, and then it could really, you know, mess things up as far as trying to get where you need to get to and all that stuff. But we'll survive it, and we'll survive it together. All right, I'll leave it up to you guys. John Harbaugh with Gary. Aaron Boone with Michael. Where do you want to start?
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Let's get some Harbaugh.
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Oh, I like it.
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Harbaugh.
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This was back on Saturday. Gary Myers with the new head coach of the New York Giants, John Harbaugh. Can this team turn it around next season a la New England?
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Of course. You know, we believe that. Like I said, when you. We work, you work hard, man. We build something, we go into a game, we expect to win the game. We believe we're going to win the game, and we're planning on winning the game. That's going to be for every single game, and we may win every single game. You know, that's. That's that's the, that's, you know, you never are going to ever, ever for one second forfeit that opportunity to do that. But are we saying it's going to be easy? Is that, that's not a prediction. You're not saying that's what's going to happen. That's what we're going to be working to make happen. And now the responsibility, you got to go fight, man. You got to go compete, go play a football game and try to find a way to win the game. So obviously to your point, Gary, it can be done. No, it was just done this last year and it's been done every year. So that's, that's, that's, it's time for us to be the team to do it.
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Well, not only happened in New England, happened in Chicago.
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Yeah, I think that's what he's referencing, which is what I've been saying, why Giants fans should have hope.
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Now super bowl, that's a lot. But if I can get eight, nine wins, be playing meaningful games in December, sneak into a wild card, I'd be very.
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Would you take what Chicago had? Would you take that Chicago has. Right.
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Absolutely.
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They didn't, it wasn't perfect.
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Oh, you take that in a heart.
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And the reason to be with the.
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Giants, the reason Chicago is more relatable. New England came into the season having to really be concerned about one team. That's Buffalo.
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Yep.
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Where Chicago? Well, nobody had Chicago on their radar. Right. Minnesota won 13 games the year before. Everybody was picking Green Bay to win after they made the trade with the Cowboys. Detroit was the gold standard for the last few years going in to this season and then they end up rising above all of them and then beating Green Bay, you know, in the post season. So Chicago is, I think, more, more relatable and we'll see if they're going to be able to do it.
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Really almost won that game.
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Does losing Todd Monkin set you back?
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It sets us back from a time standpoint for sure because, you know, we were, we were, we were kind of counting on that and you know, we had to wait longer than we would have wanted to. I wish they decided a little sooner, but there's a, there's, you know, fortunately for us, there's a, there's a good pool of offensive coordinator candidates, really good guys, younger guys, older guys. It's really the whole gamut. And we're not, we're not going to be in too big of a hurry time wise to get the right guy. We need to get the right guy who fits. Start with. Start with your quarterback, Jackson. Work through the rest of it. Also, the philosophy of how we want to play football, that's really going to be maybe the most important hire going out. The offensive line hire is going to be really important. All the position coaches. But that offensive coordinator position right now is really important.
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It's funny, he went from Lamar Jackson to Jackson Darth. So when he said Jackson at first.
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I'm like, so his next quarterback has to be named Dart just to follow the pattern.
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Keep going. But his first name then has to be Dart.
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Yeah, so his first name has to be Dart.
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So what?
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Well, give me a. Give me a Dart Vader Football. A football name.
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You know, it's a great colt McCoy. We know. I'm going to have a move Dartolomew. Now if you tell me, Don, I want you to make. I want you to a scream.
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Dart Scott, big fan.
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Although Dart is a quarterback.
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He.
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He throws darts. It's so perfect.
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It is good if they said dart dunk. I want you to do a screenplay for a football movie. All I ask you is the quarterback. In the movies, first name has to be Dark. Just and go at it.
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Yeah.
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How do you. What do you think of this as a football name?
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Let's go.
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Dart Cannon.
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Oh, yeah, that's pretty.
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Who's Dart Cannon?
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Well, that's the quarterback's name.
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You just made it up. Fictional.
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Dart Cannon's not his name. He just slings.
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Right.
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It's still a lot better than Colt McCoy. No, but that's real.
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Colt McCoy is like.
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If you did a movie about Colt McCoy, you could name the character Dark Cannon.
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Right? And that's what my plan is.
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It is pretty good.
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Well, you see this kid? You see this kid they got down there in Terhune? His name's Dart Cannon. He can sling it, chuck that thing over. He can zip it.
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Yeah, he throws darts and has an arm like a cannon. He's Dart Cannon.
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And his full name is Darth Alamu.
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D. Jake Cannon. All right, so that's what we got from. From John. I guess he zoomed in too. That's respect for Gary.
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That's good quality audio there.
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Now we gotta hear from the other.
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Yeah. Do you think. You think Boonie zoomed in or.
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I think zoom. All right, this is the Dan Grasser show.
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Okay.
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All of a sudden, my takeover. My screen just jumped. Wow. God, it's always something, man. It's always something.
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Be careful.
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Now I gotta go find.
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Look at this. Where are you now, father?
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The hell's going on?
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I think this is a takeover.
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It's.
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What if Ross is, like, in the half hours for these guys? I'm taking over right now. 5:15. When's the goal horn?
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Oh, my God. You're going to have to wait until we get the system back.
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Everyone, let's take a break.
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Let's.
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Let's maybe chat with some people.
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I wouldn't take a break.
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I would. I would take calls. I would.
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No, I think just having, like, a moment of pause.
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He meant, like, towel off.
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I got like a. Like a transitional in the studio.
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Everything's.
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Let's go to Marco in New Jersey. You're on espn.
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New York guys are never in the studio.
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What's up, Mark?
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Hey, Don.
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How you doing, man?
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Good, man.
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Everybody.
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So you guys were talking about the Grammys earlier.
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I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a metal head, but definitely love Metallica. If some of those riffs don't get your head moving, I don't think you have a soul.
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Right.
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But I wanted to ask, do you know about the band Turnstile that won best rock album and best Metal performance last night?
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No, I Turn style. Yeah, Turnstile.
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They're.
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They're a band from Baltimore. Hardcore slash metal. I would give some of their songs a listen. I would really think you'd like them. Don, Holiday and Blackout are the two that I would recommend.
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All right, so that's Turnstile. Blackout sounds like it might be a cool song.
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So, Jacob, Blackout and Holiday.
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All right, Jacob, find one of those two songs. We'll bump in next break with that.
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Perfect.
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What was your giant one, Marco? Oh, thanks a lot, man. I thought you had a giant point, but if you're ready to move on, we'll move on. My computer screen kind of blew up here, so I'm trying to find the page that had the. Boonie.
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Oh, that's. That has a parenthetical empty page message. That wasn't good.
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So maybe Anthony's coming into the room.
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You see this every day. Not a great sign.
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Watch him operate.
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He's disgusted that he has to come in and babysit and play these reindeer games with us.
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These old men can't handle technology.
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So you say Boonie on zoom, but we're going to find out. He was on the K show earlier today. How do you feel about this season, Boonie?
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I feel really good. We're excited. You know, obviously, we've got a lot of people that I felt so very good about at the end of last season. I've kind of said out Loud a lot that, you know, it was one of my most difficult seasons to get over. The end was tough because I do feel like we were kind of peaking at the right time. We were healthy at the right time. I felt like we had a team that could go get it done. And to get bounced Blue Jays, who were kind of our kryptonite last year, was. Was difficult. I feel good that we have a chance to get back to there and hopefully flip the script on it. But that being said, too, it's February 2nd and when we got a lot of work to do just to get back to that point and to put ourselves in a position to take our shot again. Hopefully. Hopefully in October. Baseball.
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There's a rain delay. Did they bring up the whole Run it back. That's the curse phrase in the organization.
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Not on what I have here.
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No.
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I'm sure.
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I know Michael had to. But you remember Boone debated to run it back with him.
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Can only manage. Oh, we have it. Look at this.
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Of course.
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How about that?
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K is a professional.
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How about. Well, I knew he addressed it. It's just a matter I can't play sound that's not on the screen. But just back to. Were you taken aback at all by the fact he said that that one was the toughest end to a season in a while? I mean, you went to the World Series the year before. Is that him saying, we weren't beating the Dodgers, but we really thought we could beat the Blue Jays? Did you take it like that? Because when losing in the World Series.
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Hurt more now in a while. Because you have to admit that the last time they lost to the Astros had to hurt a lot, too. Oh, yeah.
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But that's going back like, you know.
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The smirk and all that stuff. But I could feel that because you.
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Got to the World Series, man, that is something.
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And you. And you weren't like you were just beaten by a better team. You weren't really good enough to win that series. But you're mad at yourself for the way you played. But this was like, how are we losing to these guys? You have to admit there was a part of Boone that had to say to himself, how did we lose to these guys?
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I know, but you know what? You did lose to them. You lost to them all year, and that hurt. And they put up a better fight against the Dodgers than you did the year before. Correct. Probably should have beat the Dodgers.
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Really should have.
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By a toe.
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Right. By a heel.
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Allen asks for it, he gets it. Michael asked him, what do you say to the fans that think you're running it back.
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Well, I think we're better because the people that we added that weren't with our team the whole, whole year, last year are key parts of this club that I think make us a lot better. But it's no guarantees. Like, this is a prove it, prove it game, prove it sport. And the reality is we got to go out there and, you know, and look at the end of the year, Whether you win 95 games, 100 games, you're always going to pick parts of the schedule out that didn't go your way or you didn't play your best against, you know, and it seems like every year it's different. You know, last year, obviously, is the Blue Jays. Other years, you know, here the. We play down to our competition. We didn't beat the bad teams enough or you didn't beat the good team. You win 100 games, I know what happens is you lose a lot of games, too. So I think we have a club capable of competing for the American League East, a very tough American League East. But again, it's February 2nd, and we have a long. A long way to go to prove that we're that caliber team. And this is a new year, and we have to go prove that all over again.
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I don't like that answer. Semantics. I didn't like it when Cashman said it to. Well, we added a lot of players late in the year.
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They did, though.
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When a fan says you're running it back, they're basing it on the last time they saw you. Not Opening Day, 2025, not at the All Star break of 2025.
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Yeah.
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The last time we saw you walking off the field against the Blue Jays. It's the same team.
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Yes.
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Now, the better answer is, well, we got Garrett Cole. We didn't have all year last year. Now we got them. We won't have them until, you know, April or May, but we got them. But the whole. We added. I know you added players, but they. I know it's semantics, like you said, but if I say running it back, it's the last time we saw you.
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Yeah. It's the team that lost in the playoffs. You're taking that team that couldn't win in the playoffs and you're running it back. That's what you're saying. And they're saying, not really, because we didn't have that team for a whole season. As if having that team together for a whole season would have made a difference.
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Right.
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Which I don't see that but maybe the argument is, is that if we had that team for the whole season, we might not have finished. We might have been in first place, we might have had home field. We might have not had to go through the wild card. Like, maybe that's what he's suggesting. But if I'm not mistaken, up until Flag Day, the Yankees had the best record in the American League.
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Right?
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Right. Well, they always have those more than half the season.
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And finally, or almost half the season. Aaron, what went wrong in the postseason?
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Look, I think it was a case of a series, playing a really good team that. That caught us. You know, we had a hard time. You know, we. We gave up a ton of runs in that series. You know, they kind of just had our number and beat us. I mean, simple as that. But I felt like the moves that we made, a trading deadline really kind of finished off our roster in a really strong way, because I think for the first half of the season, while we were good, you know, I felt like we needed to do some things that kind of finished off and complimented our roster. And I felt like. I felt like we were able to do that and just felt like we were in a really good place there at the end of the season, and. And for it to not happen, you know, is one of those things that makes it difficult to get over.
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Yeah, that's the problem, is that they had your number before, they had your number after, they had your number during. I mean, you had made all those moves and had the team that you wanted face them in the playoffs and you lost them. And I think it's fair to say the Blue Jays were the better team. Now, you're right. If they had Cavaliero playing short instead of opioid, if they had McMahon at third base all year and not having to experiment with Jazz there, if they.
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Have Devin Williams as a close.
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Right.
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They were using Bednar instead.
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They win 94 games instead of 93. They win the division, and maybe things go a little bit differently. But when they played the Blue Jays in that series, that was the team they wanted. They didn't have Cole, but that would have only been, you know, one or two games, so it could have been a difference. You're absolutely right.
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Slitler was their best pitcher. He was forget.
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There was no question about that.
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Thanks for listening to the.
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Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Catch the show on demand whenever you want.
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Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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I always loved her music. Killing Me Softly One of my favorites.
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The time.
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See, this was the seventies, right? I guess I missed it all about one thing. Every single.
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Well, that's it.
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You mean the sex? Just when you. When we come back next time we.
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Excuse me.
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I'm just saying you don't have to.
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Get in the details. When we come back next time. Can we get the d' Angelo version too?
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Let down.
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Get a little taste of like she.
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Just let you know. Puts it right out there.
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Yeah, this goes on first time I ever saw your face. Those are.
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Those are the big incredible songs. Like I imagine. Peter, that song hits different now when you look at Maya.
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What?
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First time I ever saw your face.
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Oh, I haven't heard it since.
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Since then. Wanna make him cry on the air?
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That's something you enjoy doing. I know. That is your vibe. Trying to get tears.
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Well, it's emotion. It's raw. If you don't like, back to raw.
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Different meaning.
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Yeah, that's true. But it's. That's what made the 70s music special. Just got right to it.
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Sex.
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It didn't. So I like no pretense.
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Me, Paul o'.
B
Neill. All right. Brian in Middletown has a relatable story to Chili's in Paris.
C
Oh, Chili's in Paris.
A
Great song by Jay Z and Kanye.
G
Hey.
F
Hey, guys.
G
Am I on?
B
What's up?
C
We got you, Brian.
F
All right.
G
So I. I actually was in Paris for a sporting event, my running the Paris marathon. And they selected a restaurant the first night we were there, and it was in this Greek quarter of Paris. It was. Oh, my God. It was horse meat. It was. It was goat. It was not what an American palate is really used to.
B
Mm.
G
So we spent a couple. We spent two nights, me and my wife, not really eating because my parents kept selecting, like, what they thought was American food, and it wasn't. So we're walking through the streets on the third night, the night before the marathon, and we pass in front of a Chili's.
A
All right.
G
And we're laughing. They're like, oh, they got chilies in Paris. And in the window, the sign said, we import our food from America. We're like, we're in.
A
That's a bad choice.
G
We haven't eaten.
C
But I can understand. He had an experience.
A
Right? Right. You wanted to feel it.
C
Yeah. He couldn't recover.
G
We just wanted to eat.
A
Yeah.
C
Like you could have done better in another section of town. It's just. You just got stuck in a place.
B
Yeah.
A
For future reference, the best part about eating in Europe is that you're not eating poison.
C
Well, that's true.
A
When the sign says we're importing from America, we get the poison directly from America. You're like, sign me up. That's what I want.
G
Right, Right.
C
Well, all the hormones.
G
Marathon.
A
Yep.
F
They.
G
They. All the people who ran the marathon. I did not run the marathon.
C
I am.
G
I am not that athletically capable. But the next night, after the marathon, all the people who ran the marathon, they selected this place. It was called the American Bar. It was a French restaurant, but it was called the American Bar. And we went there. It was great. We had burgers and French food and everything was delicious.
A
Then.
F
Oh, wow.
C
Oh, you're playing him.
B
No, I don't agree, Brian.
A
Sorry, Peter. Peter went rogue. I thought that's what you guys were looking at me for. You guys were looking at me.
B
I was looking at you because I thought you were gonna hit something that was going to be relatable to the conversation.
A
I thought it was.
B
All right, well, listen, that's what we love about the show.
A
Hang up on him, though.
B
No, young up. What was he gonna do?
C
There was no recovering from being played.
A
Wait, hold on. I want to go around the room real quick because he seems like a totally lovely guy. I don't mean that as a very nice guy. Anthony. Was that the appropriate play out music or.
C
No, Anthony's. He's checking.
B
He's already gone. I was editing fanduels.
A
Jacob.
B
I thought you did the right thing. Maybe. Well, it's not a question of the right thing or wrong thing.
C
What was best for the show?
A
It was best for the show, right? I mean, like, he seemed like a super nice guy, but now we're going to another restaurant.
C
I will vote best for the show. While I felt away about it, I will admit, probably the best move. Yeah.
B
But I still felt. I feel bad about, like a really nice guy.
A
Have you guys. Have you guys seen any of the videos of what's going on with the iguanas in Florida?
B
No. I can't imagine it's good.
A
Oh, yeah, it's every winter. I can. It's the fact that there are people who live in America. If you consider Florida that. And that's part of your life, and you're like, yeah, no problem. Look at this. This happens every winter. If it gets really cold, they're not dead.
C
Yeah.
A
They just fall to the ground in piles like that. If you saw a pile, it looks like you're in prehistoric times. Now they can die. They can die if they stay frozen for long enough. Done. They just lay in piles.
C
This.
A
This person just walked and picks up a frozen iguana.
B
Where.
A
What are you doing?
C
Like locusts.
B
What do you want them to do? Want to try to save them?
A
No, no, no. I'm just saying I don't want to be there.
C
Yeah.
A
I don't want to be in a place where many dinosaurs have to all just fall late.
C
He doesn't want to have to walk among dead iguanas.
A
I don't. I. I swear To God. Even when I go to Puerto Rico and like, I say the hotel, like, oh, just watch out for the iguanas. And then at night you're like, in the hot tub and you see iguanas walking around. I am so freaked by it.
C
Oh, really?
A
I get used to it by the end of the trip. But at first I'm like, what the hell are people doing?
B
There is a reason why DNR have a segment called did it happen in Florida?
A
Because of that.
B
Because Florida is just different. Not saying it's bad. It's just different.
C
It is different. That is confirmed. It's crazy.
A
I can't do it.
B
If I saw. If I was just walking down the street to the, like, devil panther morning skate and saw a pile of iguana.
A
That, Yeah, I think I'd be, yeah, I'm all set.
C
Well, if you had to wait among them to get to your destination, because the sidewalk is just lit with iguanas. It does. It does feel away.
B
So it's not like quite.
C
What if you pull out a snow shovel and just kind of like clear a path?
A
Scoveled shovel.
B
You know, it kind of reminded me.
C
Did you sweep?
B
You ever see the Paul Thomas Anderson vehicle? Magnolia?
A
Yeah, of course. Love magnolia.
B
But what happens at the end of magnolia?
A
Oh, it. What is it? The iguanas?
B
No, frogs.
A
Frogs.
B
Starts raining frogs.
A
They have the plague, like the actual.
B
So that's kind of like what it would feel like, right? Except, you know, frog. But iguanas, like, they're gigantic. Frogs are frogs and it's not a guan. They're, like, related to the dinosaur. Like, I would be.
A
Both would freak out. I cannot do it.
C
So you're fine, though, like in the. In the spring when, like, caterpillars just poop right out of a tree and you get like these little pellets, they fall on you.
A
Am I. Am I fine with that?
C
Fine with that?
B
Not fine.
A
I've never even experienced it.
C
You haven't experienced that?
B
I never experienced it.
A
A caterpillar pooping on me out of a tree.
C
You can see it all over the place. All over your car.
A
I'm not comfortable. I'm not comfortable with. With cicadas.
C
Yeah. It happens, though.
A
Yeah.
B
That sound. Never seen one.
C
Yeah, it's. Right. You hear them, but you hear them.
B
And the sound comes in waves, right?
C
Yeah, comes in.
B
It's.
C
It's like.
B
It's a sound of summer. Really?
C
Really?
A
You've never seen them?
B
Not that I'm aware of. Well, like when that.
C
When they're post summer, when it's when.
A
They freeze and then you got the little one.
C
Yeah, but like to hear it that close to you. Yeah. No, no, it's in the distance.
B
This segment has taken a turn.
A
Not that it's not what you expected.
B
That only can be righted by Richard in Manhattan.
A
Espn, here we go.
G
Hey, fellas, did you see Damon Wilson passed away? Do you know who Damon Wilson was?
B
No.
A
Oh, sorry, sorry.
G
Oh, transformative. Sanford and Son. He was the son. He was fantastic. You know, fellas, that store. That show never got the full credit it deserved. Fred Sanford, what was his name? Red Fox. He was Richard Pryor ten years prior. It was the first TV show where it was all black people. There were no white people on the show, and they were great. Lamont was a lovable guy. What a show that was. He was great. What a show that was. Transform. I would put that above the Jeffersons and above Good Times in my book. That's how great it was. It was a little raunchy. Red Fox was out there. Okay, fellas, Sports. Now give me the one to six. I got six stars that came into that are coming into the Garden from Sunday night to Friday. Okay, here the donkey. Now, as of now, not in the past. Donkic, LeBron, Jokic, Jalen, Rick as in Patino and Danny as in Hurley, one through six. Rate those six.
B
Oh, boy. So Doncic, we got LeBron is your number one. Don. No, no, I'm going. I'm going over the list.
G
Doncic, LeBron, Jalen, Brunson, Jokic, Rick Patino and Danny Hurley, you're six stars.
C
What are we ranking?
B
But we're ranking their, like one through six.
G
No past history.
B
LeBron James is number one. And I guess even now. Yes, he still. Okay, did you see the price of the tickets of the Garden for the game last year?
C
Star power is global.
G
Okay, number one, go ahead.
B
Then I guess you go Doncic. Yeah.
G
Over Jokic.
C
Yes.
G
Over Rick Pitino.
C
Yes.
B
Yes.
C
Star power.
G
You don't think the Garden is going to explode on Friday night?
B
Global.
C
Global. Star power. Global.
B
Listen, I. Pitino is big, but he's.
C
Big in New York.
B
He's big in New York, but.
G
All right, fellas, this is not karma. Jimmy Butler tore his acl. All athletes. It's going to happen. But this is karma. Definitely. There were 29 different teams he could have ripped it against. 29. And when you factor in he was playing an east coast team, it's even more. It was like 101. That this can happen. What Team. Do you think he ripped it against Miami? That has to be karma. Has to be. Karma is one less thing. Munson or Mattingly, who gets in the hall of Fame first? Well, who should get in the hall of Fame first? Munching.
B
Wow. It's wow. I mean, Matt, even with a bad back, Mattingly had more time.
C
Longer career.
B
A longer career. So I would probably say Dom Mattingly. Boy, that's a tough one. Careers both cut short. But I think Munson's was shorter.
C
I think it was. Madden said something that I found also interesting debate that will put Peter to sleep.
A
Go ahead. I'm semi interested in this.
C
I don't think he will be. Once I say it, I definitely think you'll check out completely.
B
Okay.
C
Yeah, it was Madden. I was reading this over the weekend. Greg Nettles, should he be in Monument Park?
B
Monument Park?
C
He made a case that he should be.
B
I mean, Nettles, he led the league in home runs. I think once he was a spectacular defender. Monument Park? No, no, Monument.
C
But again, like, who's in Monument park? From the 90s teams that you're like Paul O'.
B
Neill. Yeah, Paul O' Neill was like, I think that.
C
But isn't that sort of the case, though?
A
Paul o' Neill's better than Greg Nettles. No.
C
As a Yankee.
B
As a Yankee.
C
I mean, Paul. I guess Paul won four titles. How does the Paul win?
B
His Last one was 2000.
C
All right, so he won. He won four.
B
He won four.
C
Nettles won two.
B
Yeah, that's why. That's why you got to three. Paul was just a part of. Right.
C
He was still with them in 81. Right. Didn't he get the four?
B
Yes, he was still with them in 81.
C
So he got the four.
B
I can't. I can't put it. Listen, I'm not a Yankee fan.
A
Can't and he won't.
B
I've always loved Nettles. I love this game. He was a great defendant. But really, I mean, Monument Park.
C
Yeah, see, that's what I mean, though. It should be a standard where it's no offense, we'll put you in the ring of Honor or whatever it is. We'll put it in Yankee hall of Fame. But Monument park has got to be, especially in Yankee history. It has to be like that has to be impossible to get in now.
B
Social media is a weird place. I agree. DeMont Wilson passes away over the weekend and I didn't recognize the name, but I knew who it was.
C
Yeah.
B
So he passes away. Somebody tweets out that he died. And they put a picture of Jimmy Walker. No, it's not. So I start looking at the mentions, thinking, this person's being eviscerated. Just a bunch of rest in peace. Oh, I loved him.
C
People just felt bad.
A
They didn't even know.
B
Just didn't know. So I don't know if the person who tweeted it didn't know. Trolling, moron. It's all on the table.
C
Well, that's social media and all the above.
B
And listen, God love Richard, Amanda. He's certainly someone like Jagermeister. You take him or leave. Sanford and Son was a fun show, an interesting show. I'll go as far as to say a funny show. It's not good time. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
A
Really?
B
Stop it.
C
Are you sure?
B
Stop it.
A
You don't think you need to revisit that you spent the time Sanford and.
C
Son ever have, like, deeply moral.
A
Like, get the serious.
B
They had Norman learning. So Norman Lear is always going to put that in everything.
C
Yeah, but good.
A
Were you as into Sanford and Son to really make the question you were? Yeah, because I'm too young for all those shows.
C
Well, it was on. They were on reruns, too.
A
I know, but even I.
C
So I lived on the rerun.
B
But again, it's a great show. Yeah, but not good times.
C
No.
A
I don't know why Richard couldn't have compared it to any other shows except other black shows.
C
Well, that's.
B
I think he was trying to make the point of the shows thought of.
A
As the black shows from the.
B
Right. Because I think, listen, the Jeffersons was a departure because they made it right. So that was like, a big deal. It's not like, hey, the good times. We're struggling in the. In the slums of Chicago. They made it right. So that. That right there was very, very important.
C
To a deluxe apartment.
B
Plus, they were doing a lot. Like, there was a lot going on in the Jeffersons.
A
A lot.
B
Lot that were very. Well, again, Norman Lear didn't do anything that wasn't at least considered socially relevant.
A
Yeah.
B
But good times to me is just. It's special. I think Sanford and Son was a.
A
Nice show, but I think the point that he was making. I'll defend Richard here is that Sanford and Son could go under the radar. There are people who may not appreciate the. Well, and Red Fox as a. Like, a comic genius. Because Red Fox is hugely influential as a comic.
C
Oh, absolutely.
A
And that show was. He got that show after already being a famous comic for a long time. And Then got that show as sort of the feather in the cat.
C
Nobody really understands that. The significance of the fact that he got a show.
A
Right.
C
And it was. There was no one white that was a main character in character. That never like then sounds like nobody's ever going to watch that. Right. Like that was a thing then. That's a barrier breaking show.
A
Richard. Look at Richard setting off Black History Month for us.
B
Who knew first really like filthy comedian. And also in year one when Sanford and so we're getting ready for this. And they probably did some makeup on him. But the first year, Sanford and Son.
A
Yeah.
B
Red Fox was 49 years old.
A
I can't. I can. No, I can't. It can't be.
C
Doesn't he always come off as he's 75, 76 years old.
A
When I was a kid and those reruns would come on, that show felt 100 years old and he looked 100 years old. And I was offended by Jacob in my ear saying, you know, Quincy Jones produced the theme song. That's a. That's unfathomable.
B
Read the room. Well, yeah. Come on.
A
For God's sake. You think anybody here didn't know Quincy Jones? Did the bum bum buanit. Come on. Classic. Speaking of Quincy Jones, you guys see the trailer for Michael today?
B
No.
A
Anyone watch the trailer?
B
Oh, I did it.
A
It looks good. It's pretty good. Senator. I will. Oh, you're gonna. You're gonna be in.
C
You're gonna be in. I'm already in.
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A
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
C
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All right now let you didn't let here Don here.
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A
Damn right are there. Give him some volume, sir. For God's sake, let them have feel it.
B
What is this?
A
This is d' Angelo's Feel Like Making.
B
Love don't care for.
A
You can't make determinations this fast on music.
B
First of all, you. You don't mess with perfection. Roberta Flack's version is just so good. And this is. This is. This is comedy.
A
You have to listen. You know it's comedy. No, I don. You shouldn't say.
B
It's an SNL bit.
A
No, it's. This is a bad take.
B
What do you mean it's a bad take? It's my take.
A
You can't not. You can have your take. Hey, you know what? I'm gonna stop playing music if you're unwilling to be able to say, all right, I can't wait to. Because I do this, Alan. When you play music for me, I listen, and then I go, oh, I'm gonna listen to this on my own time.
C
Yeah, you can't. You need to. To take it.
A
It's produced by J. Dilla, and it's d' Angelo Singh. It's two of the greatest artists of the era. Well, did that.
B
I just like what I like, but I don't know who produced the vertical.
A
Don't you think you should listen like it.
B
Don't even grow up with it. It's great. You don't mess with it.
A
See, this is.
C
He goes, I don't know these people.
A
I don't know what you just said. I was so New York.
B
Okay.
A
I don't know. I don't know these people.
C
I don't know.
B
I'm not. I'm not trying to be above it.
A
You should just. You should say, hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna listen on my own time.
B
Yeah, No, I listen. Not good.
A
And also, I promise you, it's good. You're objectively wrong. No, it's one of the greatest albums ever made by one of the greatest R B singers who ever lived produced by one of the greatest producers.
B
You don't mess with that.
A
Yes, you do.
B
You know, the Fujis, they got it right.
A
You know what?
B
The Fugees messed around, and they got it right.
A
And you know what? Everything.
B
That was good.
A
Everything was covered from that era. What do you mean, don't mess?
B
I don't like.
A
Everything was done.
B
I don't care for it.
A
You didn't hear it yet. For God's sake, man.
B
I've been waiting for the metal song. So a guy called ignores that.
C
Oh, Turnstile.
B
I've been waiting for Turnstile for three breaks.
A
Maybe you would have given that a shot, but you may.
B
You talked this up like oh, my God.
A
His cover of this song. It's true. But he didn't listen to you. Don't care for it. Don't care. Seven seconds.
B
Because you know what you got? That's all. That's all you get.
C
Sometimes he's got an.
B
So you know how many auditions? It's like, all right, thanks for coming. How long? I don't feel it.
C
It's a good point.
B
Now the fugees. I felt that.
A
Well, you were given more than seven seconds. You were. Played it 5,000 times.
B
How many times you think you. You know, this is this.
C
How many chances you get?
A
Yeah, I guess zero. You get zero chance. You don't know.
B
Go up there on stage. Here's my chance, man.
A
Done.
B
You got to hit me. My off.
A
I had a hunch it might not work because it's for Don. Because it's a real, like, slow and low chill.
C
So the fact that his voice is a little like. Yeah, it's low. It's not.
A
There's a specific sound.
C
Listen to it in a quiet place.
B
I might sound different.
A
Do you know. How does it feel by d'?
B
Angelo? I don't know. Play it for me.
A
And do you think he'd like that, or do you think he's not gonna like that enough?
B
I'll give you seven seconds.
C
Definitely not his.
A
And seven seconds won't do.
C
It's not his thing.
A
Some things aren't.
C
That's not his bag, baby. Bless you.
A
Excuse me. Some things can't be seven seconds. You know what I mean? Well, some things require a little more time.
B
We all like to have a little bit more time, but you take what you can get. What are we doing? We got it. He's not sure. Wait a minute.
A
Ads, ads, ads.
C
He's got to go through, you know, the YouTube and the AI ads. You ever see this?
A
What?
C
This might be my. My. Talk about it Tuesday. There's something I got to talk about.
A
About ads.
C
Yeah. That's tomorrow, though. Let's listen to this.
B
Familiar? No, I never heard, but I'm feeling it.
C
He's got movement.
B
Shoulders are starting to sway back and forth. That's a good sign. We've eclipsed the seven second one.
C
All right.
A
You want another seven?
C
Yeah.
B
This is. You feel this? This is way better than the feeling.
A
Like, this is biggest song.
B
Well, so I know good when I hear it. You know what? Nice try on.
A
The other one's good. No, the other one's an album cut. This is a gigantic single. They're different.
B
All right, so I'M not that off then, am I?
A
About what's popular?
B
Yeah, but I think about knowing the difference between like the two songs.
A
That one is popular.
B
We could disagree, but I got the one right. Well, better song.
A
Well, see, now you're going against all of your beliefs. Better is the more popular or better is the more simple and easier in the consensus. Well, most people don't know that one. Feel like Making Love is an album cut. You have to have listened to the album.
C
He didn't like it compared to the original.
B
And I'm a big fan of the original.
A
Well, that makes it harder.
B
Those are the three. You know what?
A
Although. What's the COVID that you. He loves the Disturbed. You wouldn't think he would.
B
You know what? Because I'm gonna. Because I just felt it. I don't know. I am not a musician. I would love to learn another language, play an instrument. Two things that are completely above my pay grade. I'd love to be able to do one of those.
A
People want a meme of Don swaying back and forth with the music.
C
Bless. What do we got going on here? What's happening?
A
I gave Donna. I gave Donna. I sneezed.
C
However, I refuse to sneeze.
B
But I am just going to go by feel. I'm not being prejudiced in the sense that I don't like R and B or I don't like him, or I'm just going to be that guy. Some songs you feel, some you don't.
A
I get it.
B
I Disturbed. I felt he took a new take on a really old song. And I'm also a Disturbed fan.
C
You very.
B
All right.
A
And the genre of music. Yeah, you are disturbed. I didn't know you were Disturbed fan.
B
Yeah. What's not to like about them?
D
I don't know.
A
I don't know what is to like or what's not to like.
C
Yeah, they're very good.
B
They're very. Yeah, that's.
A
But we have discovered sickness. What year was disturbed a thing?
C
2001.
B
Yeah, 2001. 2.
A
Where do we think the line is? Where basically Don's checked out after that year.
B
Right then. Yeah, right around that.
A
Thinking 203.
C
Thinking about 03.
B
I mean, I told you that the twins are already like. You listen to anything new and I don't. They. The kids have picked up on it. They look at my serious something. It's old 70s, 80s.
C
You'll see when. Especially when Jalen gets older, you get.
A
Forced in a little more because you like music. You come.
C
One of them is going to love Music and whoever it is, you'll attach and then you'll want to be open to their music so that you have that connection. That's me and Gracie.
B
Well, she. She's playing Imagine Dragons song. I don't think that's now, but it's a lot closer to now than stuff I listen to.
C
Imagine Dragons, huh?
A
Yeah.
B
She likes. She likes all that.
A
Yeah, Yeah, I like that.
C
That was the old. That was an intro to one of the shows back in the day.
A
Imagine Dragons was.
C
We did. Yeah, we had forget.
B
What's the panic at. There's a panic at the distance. What's a big Panic at the Disco song? Oh, what is it? He loves that one.
C
There's a lot of them. Isn't it something with a house or home?
B
Something like that.
C
I know. You got me.
A
And the YouTube people don't get any of the music, huh?
C
They hear nothing. Yeah, we should sing for them.
A
Because if you. If you. If you want Money on your YouTube, you can't get. There you go. Peter can't play music.
B
That's right. That's right. There you go.
C
We're not gonna.
B
Is there something pointing at the disco with something with House? Something with house, yes.
A
Translate that, Anthony.
C
Give me a house of memories.
A
Yeah, there you go.
B
That's the song for your.
C
Yeah, let's.
B
Let's play that and let's send it out to the YouTube crowd.
C
She probably likes High Hopes.
A
We're not gonna do the second part.
B
Just not something we're gonna do.
A
Yeah, do it. Can't send it to YouTube route. I wish there was a way to do it, but there's really. It would sound. We've done it where we've tried and remove it after, and it sounds awful.
B
Can you play a little bit of that or no? You've been told not to.
A
You could play it on the air. I'll play it on air, but it's.
B
Not making it to the YouTube. What can I do? All right. I got an. I got an audience everywhere else. Okay.
A
I understand completely. That's why we.
B
I want these guys to hear the song. The one. My favorite songs from Jalen.
F
I agree.
B
And I turned on. I was turned on to this. I say, you know what? She's got good taste.
A
I respect it.
B
But I'm sorry that the YouTube crowd can't hear it, but they can go, you know what? They can punch it up. They're already on YouTube.
A
That's right.
B
So they can punch it up and listen on their own.
A
Like you dream about.
B
We're not getting it because there's ads. There's always something.
A
We'll get it to you during E.
B
And N. How's that sound?
C
Cause there's ads.
A
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the.
C
Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.
A
Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
ESPN New York | February 2, 2026
In this lively third hour, Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg blend New York sports banter with offbeat cultural commentary. The episode weaves through winter gripes, Groundhog Day hot takes, interviews with Giants coach John Harbaugh and Yankees manager Aaron Boone, quirky stories about Florida iguanas, music debates (D’Angelo and Turnstile), and nostalgic TV moments—serving their signature brand of sports talk wrapped in humor and local flavor.
(08:05–12:14)
(14:44–20:14)
“The fact that this gets treated as a legitimate thing makes me sick.”
— Peter on Groundhog Day (04:42)
“I’m living in hell.”
— Alan riffing hilariously about New York winter (02:04)
“If you saw a pile, it looks like you’re in prehistoric times... I don’t want to be in a place where mini dinosaurs just fall.”
— Peter on frozen iguanas in Florida (28:20)
“When a fan says you’re running it back, they’re basing it on the last time they saw you... It’s the team that lost in the playoffs.”
— Don on Yankees’ perceived lack of change (18:12)
“You don’t mess with perfection. Roberta Flack’s version is just so good.”
— Don dismissing D’Angelo’s cover—sparking Peter’s protest (43:46/44:42)
“Some songs you feel, some you don’t.”
— Don, conceding the subjectivity of music (48:37)
“Sanford and Son... was the first TV show where it was all black people. No white people on the show, and they were great.”
— Richard in Manhattan (31:08)
The trio’s chemistry is front and center—irreverent, quick-witted, and New York through-and-through. Alan supplies the comic exasperation, Don anchors with sports gravitas (and old-school taste), and Peter injects pop culture, hip hop, and rapid-fire challenges to old assumptions.
If you missed this episode, expect a punchy, quintessentially New York blend of sports insights (especially Yankees, Giants), amusing pop culture squabbles, zany stories (frozen iguanas, ‘Groundhog Day’ conspiracy), and loving nostalgia. The show moves fast, is rich in inside jokes, and is never afraid to veer off into quirky, endearing territory.
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