Hour 3: Hall's Tweets & Magic City

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Hour 3: Hall's Tweets & Magic City — March 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This dynamic hour of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg centers on three main themes:

• The famed atmospheres and celebrity power of iconic sports events (with a focus on the Mike Tyson era in boxing);
• The pitfalls and controversies around athletes and contracts (particularly NFL running backs, with Breece Hall’s attention-grabbing tweets);
• The controversy over the Atlanta Hawks' canceled "Magic City" night promotion and broader debates about appropriateness, family sports experiences, and societal standards.

Throughout, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, and Don La Greca bring their signature blend of sports knowledge, humor, and spirited debate — engaging both with each other and with thoughtful callers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrity Culture at Sporting Events

[00:53 – 07:28]

• The hosts reminisce about watching a video of celebrities present at a Mike Tyson fight, marveling at the sheer A-List power of the 1990s.
  • Alan: "12 year olds know every single person in there outside the boxers. It's a crazy, crazy and for nothing. For a nothing burger in boxing." [02:43]
• Confusion arises around inaccuracies in viral nostalgia videos, such as The Rock being “spotted” at events before his fame.
  • Rosenberg investigates, pointing out: "The reason this is the problem with the Internet is...they have the Rock in there." [03:25]
• They discuss the rarity of so much star power in one spot, connecting it to wider questions of what constitutes the biggest events in New York City sports history.

Notable Quote:

"No, it's never happened again, folks. This was it. If you missed Tyson in his prime, this was it." — Alan Hahn [02:01]

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2. Greatest New York Sports Events — Debating the All-Time List

[07:28 – 09:57; 47:05 – 49:52]

• List Ideas: Rangers' 1994 Cup win at MSG, Mets clinching (1969, 1986), post-9/11 sports moments (Piazza home run, Bush's first pitch), Trinidad-Hopkins fight after 9/11, and more.
• Caller Rich in Texas brings historical depth, referencing the 1938 Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling fight at Yankee Stadium, framed against the rise of Hitler and American pride [47:05 – 49:32].

Notable Quote:

"It got a little bit into the weeds there, but that's actually a pretty good poll. Not a strange poll." — Rosenberg on the Louis-Schmeling suggestion [49:42]

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3. NFL Contracts & Breece Hall’s Tweets

[09:57 – 13:36]

• A live look at NFL free agency deals, especially those affecting the Jets.
• Alan breaks down why running backs, even stars like Breece Hall, struggle for big contracts: "It is. It's a position that's more valued than it was a few years ago, but it's still not valued the way a corner is valued or an edge pass rusher and certainly not a quarterback." [12:12]
• Breece Hall’s tweets draw attention:
  • Rosenberg reads: "'Damn, we sure got a lot of money in Florham Park. All these contracts dudes signing' with three laughing emojis." [11:01]
• They discuss fan loyalty vs. reality, referencing the Chiefs moving on from a Super Bowl MVP running back, and the broader sentiment that fans ultimately “root for laundry.”

Notable Quote:

"But it does show you. It's all yo, yo, isn't it? Like any sort of true loyalty. ...as fans, aren't we all just. We truly are just rooting for laundry." — Rosenberg [13:51]

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4. Super Bowl MVPs Leaving Their Teams

[14:34 – 17:22]

• Small trivia segment: Only four Super Bowl MVPs have left their teams immediately after winning the award (Desmond Howard, Larry Brown, Dexter Jackson, and Kenneth Walker).
  • Alan: “But he's a kid and he was good. Like, he's definitely, I think, the best of the ones you mentioned.” [17:03]

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5. The Magic City Hawks Promotion Controversy

[17:46 – 39:40]

• News breaks that the Atlanta Hawks have canceled their Magic City (strip club) night promotion following public outcry.
• Heated debate on whether such promotions are appropriate for NBA games, which are generally marketed as family events.
• The hosts discuss whether teams should stand by controversial marketing or cave to pressure, and what message it sends.
  • Alan: "Now you look clueless and weak because now you succumb to public pressure. Now you're a tool. Now you're a puppet." [18:53]
  • Rosenberg: "You either do it or you don't do it." [18:47]
  • They also debate whether it could have been handled by targeting only adults.
• Multiple callers weigh in:
  • Javier suggests the canceled promotion is bad for Magic City; hosts dispute this — "Magic City took no loss here. They got all of the press and more and don't even have to show up with any food or do anything." — Rosenberg [27:08]
• Extended discussion about the line between adult entertainment and family-friendly sports, with parallels to alcohol and betting promotions.
  • Alan: "Let me ask you this. As legal as it is, as cool as it is, it a family thing? Is a strip club a family thing? ...Is an NBA game a family thing? There you go. Done." [35:41]
• Exploration of whether cheerleaders, ads, and betting/gambling nights present similar moral grey areas.

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6. NBA Playoff Races – Tatum, Celtics, Pistons, and East Tension

[28:01 – 32:47]

• Caller “Javier” thinks it’s premature to anoint Boston as favorites after only two games with a returning Tatum.
  • Alan: "You gotta realize, Javi, they were the favorites before he came back...this is a team battling for the two seed without their best player and now their best player's coming back." [28:36]
• Both hosts emphasize that it’s healthy, even necessary, for Knicks fans to worry going into the playoffs, rather than putting up a false bravado or saying they're not afraid.
• Theme: Sports fandom means anxiety — "I never sit there. I’m not worried. Peter, you're always worried." — Alan [31:03]

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7. Music & Legacy — Remembering Biggie and Other Lost Icons

[43:03 – 46:02]

• The hosts take a moment to mark the 29th anniversary of Notorious B.I.G.'s death and reflect on the lost potential of musicians taken too soon, extending to Otis Redding, Janis Joplin, Mac Miller, etc.
  • Rosenberg: "Imagine affecting the world that much by 24." [43:47]

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8. Listener Calls: Devils Talk, Trivia, and Correction Corner

[50:04 – 51:47]

• Callers react to the Devils’ late-season surge and debate whether to root for wins or a lottery shot.
• One caller asks for an on-air correction: The Nets play the Grizzlies, not Nuggets, highlighting the value of accurate info (amid some lighthearted self-deprecation and playful apologies).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you missed Tyson in his prime, this was it.” — Alan [02:01]
• “It's all yo, yo, isn't it? ...as fans, aren't we all just. We truly are just rooting for laundry.” — Rosenberg [13:51]
• “Now you look clueless and weak because now you succumb to public pressure. Now you're a tool.” — Alan, on Hawks/Magic City PR mess [18:53]
• “‘Damn, we sure got a lot of money in Florham Park. All these contracts dudes signing’ with three laughing emojis.” — Breece Hall tweet, read by Rosenberg [11:01]
• “Let me ask you this. ...Is a strip club a family thing?...Is an NBA game a family thing? There you go. Done.” — Alan [35:41]
• “Imagine affecting the world that much by 24.” — Rosenberg, on Biggie [43:47]

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Segment Timestamps

• 00:53 — Discussion of Tyson fight celebrity roll call, fact-checking viral videos
• 07:23–09:57 — Great NY sports moments: Piazza HR, post-9/11, more
• 09:57–13:36 — Jets deals, Breece Hall’s tweets, RB NFL value
• 14:34–17:22 — Trivia: Super Bowl MVPs who left right after
• 17:46–39:40 — Hawks cancel Magic City night; debate about appropriateness and responsibility in sports marketing
• 28:01–32:47 — Knicks/Celtics/Pistons playoff anxiety: fandom, worry, bravado
• 43:03–46:02 — Biggie tribute, the legacy (and loss) of young cultural icons
• 47:05–49:52 — Historic sports events: Joe Louis v Max Schmeling, WWII context
• 50:04–51:47 — Trivia, corrections, Devils late surge
• [Throughout] — Callers participate in debates about NBA promotions, family, and playoff worries

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Episode Summary

An energetic, wide-ranging hour that moves seamlessly from sports nostalgia and celebrity-watching to real-time reactions to breaking news and cultural controversies, with an ever-present focus on NYC’s sports identity. The hosts foster sharp debates on loyalty in pro sports, appropriate marketing in family sporting events, and fandom's inherent nervousness. The show is at its best when examining the collisions between sports, culture, and the values of the communities they serve.

For listeners who missed the episode:
This installment delivers insight, memorable stories, sharp social commentary, and a dose of real-time sports news — all served with signature New York banter and genuine listener engagement.

Transcript

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[Rosenberg]

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[Alan]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Alan]

Wow. If he comes through again. Oh, he always does.

[Rosenberg]

What's he got?

[Alan]

The video of TV introducing all the celebrities. Tyson McNeely.

[Rosenberg]

He pulled it up right now. Let me see.

[Alan]

Hold on, hold on.

[Rosenberg]

Let's look at it together. Don. Hold on. I'm gonna pull it up. Here's the celebrity package who are at the Tyson fight. Peter reference. All right, Don, I'm hitting play. You ready?

[Alan]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

1, 2, 3. All right, out of the gate, it's Denzel, Donald Trump and Ivanka. Jim Carrey and wife. Nick Cage, Ali, Arnold Jordan. Who is that?

[Alan]

I'm losing it.

[Rosenberg]

I paused it. Chuck Norris. I'm a Bruce Willis, Demi Moore, Steven Spielberg, Spike Lee. I missed some. Tommy Hearn, Sylvester Stallone, Jack Nicholson, the Rock, Eddie Murphy. I think there was a pit in Anniston.

[Alan]

Spike Lee, Steven Spielberg.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, no, it's. That was Tarantino. I missed

[Alan]

Jack Nicholson.

[Rosenberg]

It's.

[Alan]

It's like Madonna. Eddie Murphy.

[Rosenberg]

There was Madonna, too.

[Alan]

Yeah. You got to be kidding me.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's never happened again, folks.

[Alan]

No, it's not.

[Rosenberg]

This is. This was it. This was. If you missed Tyson in his prime, this was it.

[Alan]

Other than the boxers. Other than. All right. Because not all of them are a list in boxing circles. Hearns is a list by.

[Rosenberg]

The first one was Will Smith, I think.

[Alan]

Yeah, Will Smith.

[Rosenberg]

Will Smith was first.

[Alan]

Got it. Yes. There is not a. They're all a list.

[Rosenberg]

I know.

[Alan]

And you know what? Here's the hot take. Still.

[Rosenberg]

I know. Still. All a list. Still. I mean, Chuck Norris and Sly. Maybe it's a little bit of a

[Alan]

step back and obviously what Bruce Willis is going through.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan]

But there's. They're still wrecking. 12 year olds know every single person in there outside the boxers. It's. It's a crazy, crazy and for nothing. For a nothing burger in boxing. That Would be like, you know, from a. I'm just trying to think another sporting event.

[Rosenberg]

It would.

[Alan]

It would be like the Dream Team playing Nicaragua in a basketball game.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on. I'm confused. You know what, though? I'm having an issue here.

[Alan]

What's that issue here?

[Rosenberg]

The date of Mike Tyson and Peter McNeely. Yeah. Was 95.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

The reason this is the problem with the Internet is, is they have the Rock in there.

[Alan]

Not a thing.

[Rosenberg]

In 1995.

[Alan]

Unless. Unless is the Rock look like somebody. So the Rock. When.

[Rosenberg]

Let me see. Let me make sure that's the Rock.

[Alan]

It looked like the Rock to me. That's the Rock, but they don't. Here's the thing.

[Rosenberg]

They don't. He's the one. They don't cron.

[Alan]

They don't font him.

[Rosenberg]

He's the one without a font, though. It certainly looks like him.

[Alan]

So who.

[Rosenberg]

But I just wonder, could this be the wrong fight? Because if you jump ahead and it's like Tyson in 97, but even then, rock being there wouldn't be a big thing. Right, guys? It would be 98, 99. For rock to be a thing that you'd show.

[Alan]

Well, the end of the video is showing Tyson, but then there's not showing the opponent.

[Rosenberg]

He. Yeah.

[Alan]

Because when.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you know, any chance they're way off and it's Tyson Lewis?

[Alan]

Well, where did you come up with the list? Like, where did you see.

[Rosenberg]

I saw that video moving around.

[Alan]

It's all video you saw.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan]

That can't be right, man. Because if you're telling me that that was a 95 and the rock wasn't a thing. Now, they. Again, they didn't font them. But that. That's the Rock.

[Rosenberg]

I'm just asking AI what celebrities went to Tyson McNeely. Let's see if AI knows or if it goes, who's Tyson McNeely?

[Alan]

But it is. It's not about McNeely. It's just about Tyson back. Right? So.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. All right. It says right here, it says Tyson's first fight. He's back. Tyson versus McNeely. Tyson's first fight after prison. MGM grand in Las Vegas was packed with 90s royalty, music and movies. Michael Jackson, Jim Carrey, George Clooney, Steve Martin, Denzel Washington, TV stars, Seinfeld, Kelsey Grammer, Luke Perry, the Wayans Brothers, Donald Trump, Magic Johnson, Shaquille o', Neal, Patrick Ewing, and the National Anthem by Johnny Gill. It sounds to me like they. This combined. They took a thing and Combined. That's what I'm guessing. But it doesn't matter. The list that I just read off, that was just as impressive. Same thing. You're just replacing a couple people with different people. Because Seinfeld's already big in 95. He's prime Seinfeld. Right?

[Alan]

That's prime Seinfeld.

[Rosenberg]

We're in the middle of it. Wayne's brother's already big. In Living Colors. Gigantic. Jim Carrey's huge. They're all big. Okay, Jacob, are you on the air? Are you talking to me? Are you talking to just.

[Alan]

I didn't hear a word.

[Rosenberg]

All right, talk to us, Jacob.

[Alan]

I'm reading an article from 95, spoke the spokesman review. So Spokane, Washington.

[Rosenberg]

All right. I trust anything from the Spokane Review. Yeah. Okay. That's where I get my news.

[Alan]

So they're going like on.

[Don Hahn]

Among a bunch of list of people who were there.

[Alan]

So they got Jim Carrey, George Clooney. They have Kelsey Grammer, Seinfeld, Tim Allen, Louie Anderson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gregory Hines, Magic Johnson, Shaquille o', Neal, Francis Ford Coppola, Christian Slater. Oh, dear God.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, any version you want to take, it's. It's never happening.

[Alan]

Like Denzel Washington, Larry Holmes, Patrick Ewan, it's a. Eddie Murphy's another big name there. Eddie.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, a bunch of these, by the way, Don, and I don't even need to double check because like the Eddie Murphy's and Magic Johnson's, they were at every Tyson fight. Like they were. They were there at a bunch of them. But it's just this all started with Richard's phone call about the biggest events in the history of New York, which I do think is an interesting conversation. It is, you know, and it's hard because history, you know, things. Things obviously evolve over time and things become a bigger deal and a less big deal. And some things are big sort of regionally, Don, that aren't necessarily big everywhere.

[Alan]

Like, where would you put the Rangers winning the cup? It's at the Garden, game seven.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, that has to be very high, right?

[Alan]

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[Rosenberg]

Yeah, you made it far. You just said. Look, you just said, I'm at Ramapo. Look at me. Which is just like your drop. Now, a lot of people, you know, won't remember this in the same way, but a big deal at the time, guys. A big deal. And Don, I don't know how much you'll remember because I know you're not the world's biggest boxing guy, but on September 29, 2001, and I'm not putting this on the list of highest. Highest. But in terms of feeling big in New York, September 29, 2001. So you're two and a half weeks post 9 11, right? An athlete who was gigantic in New York. And even though it's faded over time, Felix Trinidad fought Bernard Hopkins at MSG September 29, 2001. Crazy, Crazy Boxing match. Now, listen, I know that if you're not into boxing at all and you're not from New York or didn't spend time here at that time, you may not make it to you. But Tito Trinidad versus Hopkins, it was. It was Trinidad's first loss, by the way. That was a big deal to have that in an MSG event two weeks after 9 11, et cetera. What about that? The first Yankee game after 9 11, Don.

[Alan]

Or the first.

[Rosenberg]

Well, the big or the World Series game with Bush?

[Alan]

The Mets were the first game in New York Post 9 11. That was the Piazza home run against the Braves. So that would have to be put there. That's. That's considered one of the top moments in Mets history. So that would have to be up there, too. But it's a great question. It's great debate.

[Rosenberg]

That's a fun conversation. For the biggest events ever in New York history. It's a fun conversation.

[Alan]

Resigns with the Giants. Three years, $39 million. It's good to be an offensive lineman.

[Rosenberg]

All right, here we go. So today the jets have made some moves, as we reported earlier, some money has been spent.

[Alan]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Nothing gigantic. What's the biggest deal they gave out today?

[Alan]

Well, it's not even. It's not. It's technically not free agency. The Mika Fitzpatrick is. It was a trade, but it's the money they, they consumed in the deal they got him for a seventh round pick but you know he had a big contract so that freed up the money for the Dolphins to get Willis. So technically not a free agent signing but kind of was in the sense that you don't get it. Was he a four time Pro Bowler for a seventh round pick?

[Rosenberg]

So yeah, that's, that's not a money thing though because Breece hall tweeted:4 hours

[Alan]

ago, Damn, Davis got money too. How much did Davis get? Anthony? I think I got it here looking

[Don Hahn]

at it right now while you guys

[Rosenberg]

pull up the money.

[Alan]

Do it Breeze.

[Rosenberg]

Hall tweeted, damn, we sure got a lot of money in Florham Park. All these contracts dudes signing with three laughing emojis. He then followed it up with I definitely be pocket watching and free agency. LMAO. More laughing emojis.

[Alan]

Two years, 22 million.

[Don Hahn]

And the jets are giving Fitzpatrick a three year $40 million deal. So they paid him as well.

[Alan]

Right? That's it. So yeah, so that's big money. That's what, that's what he's referring to.

[Rosenberg]

Now real quick though, I should, I should, I should add that he also posted after that when someone asked him about it, he wrote I'm happy we spending. She.

[Alan]

We need to. Well, both could be true, right? I'm happy they're spending because he's got the franchise tag so he's not going anywhere at least this year. But he wants to know why he can't get a big time contract. And what position do you play? That's it, man. The MVP of the super bowl didn't get re signed by the team that won the Super Bowl. All right. So. And the Chiefs, you know, get a running back because they feel like they're close. If they get Mahomes healthy again, they'll, they'll be in competition again. And if they wouldn't do that, they would have drafted. They got the ninth overall pick in the draft. So they probably figured I'd rather, rather do it in free agency than have to deal with it in the draft. But how many, how much more evidence do you need? You play the wrong position. It is. It's a position that's more valued than it was a few years ago, but it's still not valued the way a corner is valued or an edge pass rusher and certainly not a quarterback. What do you want, man? It's just again, it's the circumstances. What are you going to do? They even said this draft has loads of talent, lots of running backs and safeties. Not what you draft high. It's the position. Don't be insulted. That's why that, that 10 year old kid who wants to play football, when they ask you what position you want to play, don't go to running back. Because if you have aspirations to make it to the NFL, this is what you're going to have to live with. Being great at your job and being undervalued by general managers in the NFL. I don't know what to tell them. It stinks. It stunk for Barkley until Philadelphia needed a running back. But how often do you see Peter in his prime, an MVP of a Super bowl, not going back to the team? Very rare.

[Rosenberg]

That is an interesting question, Don.

[Alan]

Now, it happened the rain night with the Mets. But he was older and it was stupid. The Mets regretted it the second they didn't do it for a lousy $200 million. Even in 87 the year after they won the World Series, it was a negligible amount of money.

[Rosenberg]

But it does show you. It's all yo, yo, isn't it? Like any sort of true loyalty. I'm not blaming player or team, both directions. It's just like as fans, aren't we all just. We truly are just rooting for laundry.

[Alan]

Yeah. And even they ruin that by having all these different uniform combinations.

[Rosenberg]

They won't even let us root for laundry. Now, it's not always true. Obviously. You do have players who just become, you know, a real part of something, it feels like. But man, to lose someone that pivotal immediately after winning the super bowl, such a big piece of that team immediately out the door.

[Alan]

He's. Because he's going to demand money and there's a handful of teams that can give it to him because of the position that they're in. But Seattle will replace him. They won't miss him.

[Don Hahn]

I don't know how fun this game would be.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, so you just let me know. There are. Kenneth Walker is now the fourth Super Bowl MVP to leave his franchise immediately after winning Super Bowl MVP. Can you name the other three?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, the other three Super Bowl MVPs who left the team immediately?

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Give me.

[Don Hahn]

Okay,

[Rosenberg]

let me ask you a question. How are any of these players big time?

[Don Hahn]

I would say so, yes.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

And none earlier than 1996, of course,

[Rosenberg]

because that's when men were men.

[Alan]

And you know, then you bring it in the cap. So you weren't giving out gold watches anymore.

[Don Hahn]

One I don't recognize. The other two I recognize. Oh, so I'll give Don a hint.

[Alan]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

That's right,

[Alan]

Bob.

[Don Hahn]

No, that's right.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right.

[Alan]

Well, one of them. Curb Street.

[Don Hahn]

It's not Kirk. Herb Street. Think about the other one. Oh, the Michigan man.

[Alan]

And one with the Packers.

[Don Hahn]

That's right. Desmond Howard. 1997, left the packers, went to the Oakland Raiders.

[Alan]

Yeah, but that doesn't count. Wow. Because he won it because of special teams.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Alan]

Right. I mean, I'm just telling you. Be honest. Right. You losing special teams guys is not that big of a deal. Right.

[Don Hahn]

The other one was the year before. This player also, ironically enough, went to the Oakland Raiders.

[Alan]

Oh, the. Who had those picks for the Cowboys when Neil o' Donnell threw all those interceptions? What was his name again? Was it Brown?

[Don Hahn]

Oh, Larry Brown.

[Alan]

Very good, Don.

[Don Hahn]

Larry 96.

[Alan]

Yeah. That's not anybody.

[Don Hahn]

The next one is in the 2000s. This is the one that I don't recognize.

[Rosenberg]

This is what you don't recognize.

[Don Hahn]

I could be wrong. I don't recognize this. I knew Larry Brown. I knew Desmond Howard, another defensive player, by the way. So this is the first. Well, no, Desmond Howard did it for special teams, but you could say

[Alan]

that

[Don Hahn]

Kenneth Walker is the first. No, you can't say he's the first offensive player.

[Alan]

But he's a kid and he was good. Like, he's definitely, I think, the best of the ones you mentioned.

[Don Hahn]

Right. I'll give you the last one. Dexter Jackson in 2003 went from the Tampa Buccaneers to the Arizona Cardinals like you dream about. Am I wrong to not know that one?

[Alan]

No.

[Don Hahn]

Okay. I feel better now.

[Alan]

That whole. That whole buccaneer super bowl was like, did it happen? Vanilla on vanilla crime. It was like, let's put two. I happen to like vanilla, but you know what I'm saying. It was plain, very, very saccharine. It was the saccharine bowl. The only thing sexy about that super bowl was Jerry Rice.

[Rosenberg]

So I. Breaking news.

[Alan]

That's not evidence.

[Rosenberg]

Give me a news sounder. This is big. Get Michael K On the. Not literally. Get all the Pearl clutchers on the line, baby.

[Alan]

This better be good. You built it up.

[Rosenberg]

The Hawks and the NBA have canceled the Magic City promotion. That's how I feel.

[Alan]

It should have never happened in the first place because now you look like a bigger jerk. Right. Like, nobody noticed this was an issue. And now people go nuts. And now you can. Honestly, I don't care either way, but it's just not appropriate. And the fact that you thought it was appropriate, thought it was fine, and then you waited for public outcry. Now you look like a toolbox. Nobody in the NBA said, yeah, really? I get we're grown ups and every fine, but come on, man.

[Rosenberg]

It will. Listen, either you do it or you don't do it. That's the thing. You either do it or you don't do it.

[Alan]

I agree. And if you stand by it and say, hey, I think we can handle it, then you let it ride. But now you look clueless and weak because now you succumb to public pressure. Now you're a tool. Now you're a puppet. And honestly, I don't. You said pearl clutchers. And is that really what you want to celebrate a strip club?

[Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Alan]

I listen.

[Rosenberg]

I think that there's certainly downside to it. I don't know that I would love it. I certainly wouldn't want to bring a kid to that event just because I don't feel like explaining what it is exactly. Is there a way to do it? Like, trying to think, could you do it like it's a Saturday night game or a. I don't know, is there a way that you could do it and kind of gear it towards adults and know this is not going to be a bring your kids kind of night? Like, are you allowed to do that? Can you have a night that's kind of like, hey, this isn't aimed for your kids?

[Alan]

I don't think so. Now, I. Honestly, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. Do you see strip clubs advertised during games?

[Rosenberg]

No, not that I've ever seen, much

[Alan]

as some of these regionals are hurting for ad revenue. Have you ever watched a Ranger game and see a spot for scores? No, because they realize that's kind of. That's inappropriate for the network to advertise a strip club when there could be 12 year olds watching. How is it any different? You bring kids to games and you're celebrating this. And dad, what is Magic City? Oh, it's a restaurant. But then he's gonna see. He's gonna find. Listen, I have kids, all right? And I think Marco could handle it. I don't think he's gonna become a criminal if he happens to find out there's places where girls strip down. But do I have to have it shoved down his throat at 8 years old if I want to take him to a game, do I want to have to have that conversation with my son?

[Rosenberg]

Order.

[Alan]

Order. Do I want to have to do that? And I got. I got news for you. You know what kids do? Well, Peter's gonna find this out, ask questions they ask questions, a lot of questions. And your answers are really important. Yeah, I mean, listen, why put myself in that situation? Like, why do I have to be in that? I'm a big Hawk fan. I want to go to the. And the other thing too. If I'm like the city of Atlanta, like, really, we're Atlanta. This is what you want to be, like, known for, you know, really, there's nothing else. And is that really, is that gonna bring a lot of people? I like the idea of like, if it was a restaurant, like, known for its wings and stuff. But you, I just, when I saw it, well, I didn't get it because I didn't know what the hell you guys were talking about on the thread.

[Rosenberg]

You didn't know.

[Alan]

But once you explained it to me the other day, Peter, I'm like, really? But then if you show me something and say, I don't care if you get it or not, this is our thing, we're doing it. There's an air of respect in that. And now you devalued yourself again by caving it.

[Rosenberg]

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[Alan]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want.

[Rosenberg]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. All right, on Wednesday the 18th, we're going to Calandras, Calandra's Italian Village in Caldwell, New Jersey. Starting at 3, we're doing the the show live. All right. Plus we're gonna have a special happy hour there to be awesome. Come hang out, talk sports and get ready for a huge night on the ice. Because after our show we'll watch Rangers Devils at 7 o' clock like you dream about. Big screens, great food, incredible atmosphere, the best fans in hockey, all under one roof. We're hanging out. Reservations are recommended, so book your table at 973-226-8889. Alright, there's not tons and tons of space in there, so you want to get your table and come see me, Don and Alan all at Calandra's Italian Village in Caldwell. Wednesday, March 18th. That's next Wednesday, a week from Wednesday to you and me starting at 3pm I'm excited about it. I'll tell you one thing about the food at Calandras, man.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, they're very good.

[Alan]

How you living?

[Don Hahn]

What? That was good, trust me.

[Rosenberg]

Did this get in at the last minute?

[Don Hahn]

It did not. What for? No, no, like, reason. I just. I don't think it reaches the level which tells you how good the field of 64 is.

[Alan]

How you living?

[Don Hahn]

What?

[Alan]

Satan, John. Now that did make it Satan, Johns.

[Don Hahn]

It was a. It was a late tournament winner. It's gonna get. It's gonna get that true TV midnight matchup oh, you look forward to new matchup. Not midnight, but you get the point.

[Alan]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

This was Marco the other day talking about St. John's he hadn't seen that abbreviation much before. Satan John completely changes the name of the school. Really does, though, when you think about

[Don Hahn]

it there and shout to St John's they won the Big east outright. They're the number one seed in the tournament. Trying to win it again.

[Rosenberg]

Let's, let's get, let's get the calls going at 1-800-919-3776. All on the table for you, Whatever you want to discuss. Plus you can be in the chat with us on the ESPN New York YouTube channel.

[Alan]

Yeah, do it.

[Rosenberg]

We look forward to you spending time with us and, you know, Satan Johns and maybe you're a Satan John's graduate yourself. So come join us, hang out in the chat, say hello. But let's go to the phone lines. We go to Javier, as Alan calls him in Queens.

[Alan]

Hey, what up, Javier?

[Caller]

Thanks. Thanks for taking the call. You know, I have to say it like, I, I think this is, this is terrible for the Magic City franchise, like, for that actual business. I thought they were, you know, they say, no, no press is bad press. But, like, you know, I think they miss out an opportunity. I get like the controversy around it.

[Alan]

What?

[Rosenberg]

I totally disagree. Yeah, Magic City took no loss here. What's all, you know, what they did, they got all of the press and more and don't even have to show up with any food or do anything. I mean, it's unbelievable.

[Alan]

And Jennifer Hart on Twitter is like that merch that isn't going to be given out of the arena. That's going to be worth a fortune.

[Rosenberg]

Sold. Already done.

[Alan]

Yeah. Yeah. I disagree. I wouldn't mean to jump you, but I think it's going to work out fine for them.

[Caller]

If they had went through it, like, if they got celebrated, it just would have gone to a whole other. I think it would have expanded the story and it kind of just dies here.

[Alan]

Well, you know what it seems like to me, again, I'm ignorant on the subject. It felt to me like the Hawks needed it more than Magic City.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Alan]

Sounds like Magic City's pretty well established. This was the Hawks trying to get something out of it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think.

[Alan]

Wrong, Peter.

[Rosenberg]

No, I think it felt like a big win.

[Alan]

Big old.

[Caller]

The real reason for my call, I just, I had to call in, you know, it's been two games with Tatum. Like, I think it's, it's a little early to kind of call the east in Boston favor. And it's just way too. It's way too soon. Like he hasn't played big minutes yet. Like, what's the most he's played so far? 27 back to back games.

[Alan]

Not having played in 10 months is pretty significant.

[Caller]

No, no, what he's doing is impressive. But like, I think, you know, it's. It's been two games. Like, I think there is a bit of an overreaction to the team and to him. Like, you know, it's going to be a month before the playoffs.

[Alan]

Well, you got to realize, Javi, you got to realize this is that they were the favorites before he came back. Now they knew he was coming back, but now not only has he come back, but he's been impressive in the two games he came back. So I think part of this is just how well they played without Tatum. And the feeling is he doesn't have to totally come back as Tatum for them to be even more improved. I mean, this is a team that's battling for the two seed without their best player and now their best players coming back. And Peter, even if he ends up being a guy that plays 25, 27 minutes, averages around 19 point. That's a win for Boston, man.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I hear what it is. Go ahead, Javier.

[Caller]

So I'll just say this like we've all, all season, I think across the board it's been agreed the east is wide open. Like, no, like no one at any point thought, you know, Detroit has this like, no problem. Like the east is wide open. And the reason the east is wide open is that the east is pretty weak. So like, you know, first, second, third and east, like, I don't think it matters. I think they all have an even shot. And you know, Tatum playing very well gives Boston a much better shot. But let's give them time to play very well. Like, clearly this is Brown's team. You know, Boston don't, don't be worried. But you know, I think, I think it is. It remains to be wide open. I think it's means to be wide open. I wouldn't fear Boston. I don't fear Detroit as well.

[Alan]

You know, I think. I'm not. I can't tell you how to feel. I think you're kidding yourself. I heard Ray Santiago on the morning show say the exact same thing. I don't fear. Stop it now. That doesn't mean you're not a huge fan, but like, I'm not worried about this. Then what do you. What are you doing? Why Aren't you? Like that doesn't make you a bad fan to say damn, I'm concerned about the Celtics. You should be concerned about the Celtics. You should be concerned about the Pistons. And if you tell me I'm not.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Alan]

Why? Why are you not worried? You weren't worried about the Pacers last year. What happened? How could a Knick fan who hasn't seen A championship since 73 or a finals appearance since 99 not be chewing their nails down to the nub every time this team plays a playoff game? Come on. Who are you to strut around? You've done nothing.

[Rosenberg]

I'm not worried.

[Alan]

I'm telling you, I'm a big Giant fan, a big Devil fan, Met fan. I'm worried every time my team plays a playoff. I'm worried about everybody. I never sit there. I'm not worried. Peter, you're always worried.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, especially if you're a team that hasn't proven it. And you know for a fact you have. A team that you struggled all year with in Detroit. Swept Don. How many quarters they win? One.

[Alan]

None. None against Detroit.

[Rosenberg]

Never won a quarter this year against Detroit. Oh, and 12 Celtics you've done okay against, but now they're reloaded. Got their best player back.

[Alan]

But can't both be true? Like, I think they could win. I believe in my team, but at the same time, you know, I am worried. Why would you not be worried about a team that has battled you tooth and nail for the two seed all year without their best player and then get their best player back? How are you not worried about a team that whipped you all three games? I know it's only the regular season. Let's see him do it in the postseason. I get it. But you're not a least bit worried. Then why are we even bother playing? Come on, man. You don't think there's at least an ounce of delusion you trying to salve yourself by? Like, I don't wanna worry. Well, maybe you should worry.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world to worry. That's what you do. It's a normal thing to do when you care.

[Alan]

Thank you. I'm a worrywart. I do worry about stuff. Like Michael always said, I don't worry about the stuff I can control. I worry about things I can't control. You should worry about the things you can't control. You can't do anything about it. There's nothing a Knick fan can do. They can't go onto the court and play now should the Knicks be worried? That's another story. That's up to them. But just as a fan that can't do anything about it. You see a really good Celtic team, add their best player, the Piston team that has handled you all regular season. And I'm sorry, there's an air of arrogance to me, I believe is made up. You're trying to.

[Rosenberg]

To try too hard, bro. As someone I know would say, that

[Alan]

doesn't make you less of a fan.

[Rosenberg]

No, it just makes you wrong. Let's go to. Let's go to Richard and Rockville. Hey, Richard.

[Caller]

Hey, boys.

[Alan]

What's going on?

[Rosenberg]

Hey, buddy.

[Alan]

So, I mean, I want to try

[Rosenberg]

to make a doublespring real quick, but, like, the. What I want to talk about is the Magic City thing is, I think the thing that everyone's really missing is, like, the children.

[Alan]

Like, no kid has ever had a

[Rosenberg]

sip of beard, had, like, an adult awakening, or no kids really ever had, like. I'm sorry, from my experience, it's like,

[Caller]

did a scratchy and all of a

[Alan]

sudden, like, the world changed. But once you start looking at, like,

[Rosenberg]

scantily clad women or men, kind of everything changes and your innocence leaves.

[Alan]

And I think that's the thing that we're all missing.

[Rosenberg]

Not that it's like a cultural thing,

[Alan]

because I totally get that.

[Rosenberg]

Or like any other point. Just real quick, before I go, Don,

[Alan]

I just want to inquire what's better for the Devils. Do we just lose out or do

[Caller]

we make the push?

[Alan]

Like, like, you thought we love winning lottos. Like, we can maybe get Gavin, or

[Rosenberg]

do we just, like, really push for it? Because this is a talented team that can make noise if we make the dance.

[Alan]

Thank you, guys.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, man.

[Alan]

Yeah. I hate tanking. You know how I feel about that. So. No, you try to win every game you can and play hard, play to the best. I don't believe in that part. But he's right about the Magic again. Why should a kid be exposed to what that's all about? That's a different world. It's an adult world. You know, let them stay young, let them stay curious about other things. And then when the time comes, I just don't need to expose them to that. Because when you're young, you look to your parents for the way to go, right? And I saw my dad drink a beer. Can I have a beer? No, you're not old enough. Okay. But I didn't have to go into the details of what it was about, what it meant, you know? But this, like, Having to explain to a 12 year old about that they're strippers and that's just why. Why they'll be exposed to the world soon enough. Do they have to be exposed to it at a basketball game? And as far as the crowd of, well, then don't go to the game. Well, what if I got season tickets and I bring my kid to the game?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan]

Let me ask you this. As legal as it is, as cool as it is, it a family thing? Is a strip club a family thing?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan]

Is an NBA game a family thing?

[Rosenberg]

Generally, yes.

[Alan]

There you go. Done. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how inappropriate that is. But I guess there was money to be made and nobody thought about it.

[Caller]

There are people on the other side

[Rosenberg]

too that you could say the same

[Alan]

thing about, like these bed insights and like alcohol sites that promote on like some of these commercials that I've seen about. Especially with the same kind of argument where we promote it non stop, but. And kids are watching the game. There's a difference between promoting it and trying to make money and celebrating it. Right. I don't think.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know what's worse.

[Alan]

Oh, no, I would say that. I don't know, maybe, maybe it would be, maybe it would Happen. But because FanDuel and DraftKings and MGM advertise on your games and have signage in the building, would you have, you know, a gambling night, like celebrating the world of gambling, you know, involving kids that are under the age of 18? Like, no, you wouldn't do that. Like there's ads for drinking for people that are of age to drink and there's ads for gambling for people that are of age to gamble. And obviously we acknowledge that a strip club is not for everybody. Is there a difference between advertising and promoting and celebrating it to where you made it a part of the game? I don't know. There's a, there's a.

[Rosenberg]

It's very iffy to me because I can. At least there are ways that you can get around the Magic City thing in which you can't get around the other stuff. My guess is, and listen, I'm not a part of the Hawks organization. I don't know what their conversation was, but my guess is, guys, nothing about the promotion would have had to do with the strip part of Magic City. It would have had to do with it being a club that serves food and drinks. Right. That's my guess. I highly doubt anything strip club related. So. There is. There is. I will. I'm just putting this out there I'm talking to as I'm saying it out loud. Okay, but Don, there is a world in which you take your kids to thing and as long as there's no sort of strip club promotion in it, it's just the name of a place and there's food and your kids go, what's Magic City? And you go, oh, it's a club like restaurant that adults go to. But you kind of can move on

[Alan]

from that, I guess you can, you

[Rosenberg]

know, more so than you can gambling. The gambling, there's no way around it. Well, people spend, take their hard earned money and they throw it down on and they bet it on sports and hopefully it doesn't become a problem, you know, so it is interesting, man. It's in. But either way they felt the pressure and they made the move, I guess.

[Alan]

But I think when we're talking about the strip club, what I hear from the side that's against it are people that feel that women are exploited at these places. And is that something you really want to promote? You know, a gambler, he makes a conscious decision to gamble. Is he necessarily being taken, exploited the way a woman is being exploited? It's interesting because then you get the cheerleader stuff too, right? Which they're not strippers. But when you watch the way they dance and they. Isn't there some. Isn't that kind of subjective? A little bit, yeah. In the way that the cheerleaders go. And that's been commonplace in football and basketball forever. So I don't know, it's hard to define when you're crossing the line and when you're not. But this just felt like they were crossing the line. But you bring up an interesting point. Is it possible that you could have gone, like me, completely ignorant to what Magic City is to the game and not even know ever it was a strip?

[Rosenberg]

So my guess would be yes.

[Alan]

All right, well then that's different.

[Rosenberg]

But I am curious. Adam Silver says he reached out to the team and they talked through it and they decided to cancel it. So 1-800-919-3776. We'll finish out the hour with your calls next. Then a big ENN coming up at 6 o' clock right here on Don Hahn and Rosenberg. Before we get to that, though, new FanDuel customers can get up to $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days. If your bet loses, here's how it works. You place a tournament bet using the token, and if it doesn't win, you'll get up to $300 back in bonus bets every single day for 10 straight days. That's 10 chances to play all tourney long from game props and money lines to spreads, totals, futures and more. You can even mix things up with same game parlays for a shot at a bigger payout. However you want to fill out your bracket. FanDuel makes it easy to stay in the action day after day, so visit FanDuel.com local to sign up today. FanDuel it's time to dance 21 and over fizzly present New York must apply select token each day. Bonus bets are non withdrawable and expire seven days after receipt. Tokens are received in increments of one per day. Restrictions Apply seat [e-mail] for up the gambling problem, call 877-open- Wire Text Open

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[Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Alan]

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[Rosenberg]

Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want to.

[Rosenberg]

Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Doesn't get much bigger. Better than this, Man. When this comes in, it just the cat. Cat, cat, cat. Yeah. Biggie died 29 years ago today. Unreal. He was a kid, 24 years old. Now he'd be a 53 year old man.

[Alan]

You wonder how much creativity and music we lost.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan]

To accomplish that at 24, what could he have done at 30, 40 and 50?

[Rosenberg]

Imagine affecting the world that much by 24. You look, I look back at me at 24, a complete moron. Still. I was still doing College Radio at 24, yelling about God knows what, pretending to be the hip hop Howard Stern. And this guy, I mean, created a complete legacy.

[Alan]

I am, I'm at Ramapo today.

[Rosenberg]

That's right. I'm a Ramapo.

[Alan]

Look at me at the radio station. My alma mater. Got to speak to fan listeners and interviewed by the President. They're still here. That's why I've been like in break. I'm. I don't know whether they're afraid I'm gonna steal something or whatever, but there's

[Rosenberg]

that is on the table.

[Alan]

And I'm talking to them during the break. And I graduated here in 90. I was 24 years old, graduated college and I had a job right out of college at Sports Phone. Not changing the world, creating something.

[Rosenberg]

Exactly. And that your family would live off of for generations. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, man.

[Alan]

No, it's that it's so sad to think of the talent that's taken too soon. Especially in music.

[Rosenberg]

Does feel like it happens.

[Alan]

Long list of people in rock and roll, whether it's Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, like Otis Redding, it's. It's incredible that how many, you know, how many we lost like so young.

[Rosenberg]

How old was Otis Redding get when he died? There you go. You want your mind blown on, Go ahead. Otis Redding, 41 to 67. He was 26 years old 26.

[Alan]

Well, think about it, 26. Because 27 is the magic number in rock and roll.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan]

That's how old Janis Joplin was. And Jim Morrison was. And Jimi Hendrix, you know, Matt was.

[Rosenberg]

Mac Miller 27. Mac Miller might have been 27, too, but

[Alan]

they took advantage of the opportunity while they had it. So there's. There's a positive spin. Right.

[Rosenberg]

Mack was 26.

[Alan]

Crazy.

[Rosenberg]

I had known him for years. How is that even possible? I had known him for so long already 26. And. And. And his day was 2018. We're already eight years from that.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan]

You were working with us then.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, I sure was. Because Michael said it, like, not callously, but Michael said it sort of casually during the break. He, like, just read it as a news headline. And I remember I was in the control room. Michael was down the line. Were you with me in the studio? No, it might have just been me. I might have been alone in there. And you guys were down the line for some reason.

[Alan]

Were we in the. Maybe in the.

[Rosenberg]

You were probably doing Rangers, perhaps, and Michael's doing early baseball season. Probably sound, right?

[Alan]

Sounds like a possibility.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, because this was the fall. Oh, other way around. Sorry. Flip to the other side. Because it was October

[Alan]

and.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, he just said it sort of casually during the break. And I had to go leave the room and take a little time and then came back on. It was just crazy. Now, earlier, Richard called and talked about the greatest New York City sports events. And Rich in Texas wants to weigh and. What's up, Rich?

[Caller]

Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. I do want to get to that, but I have a quick point, and I hate to correct you, Don, on a day you're being honored at Ramapo, but earlier you said it's unusual for or not likely to have two major events like Covid and before that, 9, 11. And I would say that to go back a little ways earlier, into the 1900s, our parents and grandparents, generations. You had World War I and the great Depression. You had the Great Depression and World War II, which were all shorter time spans than 9, 11 and Covid.

[Alan]

Yeah, well, World War I. World War I end. Was that right?

[Caller]

It was right into 17, I believe. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And then 12 years later, they get the. On the 29th in 29, then you get the stock market collapse. It's not. It wasn't a great run. Was not. Not a great.

[Alan]

No.

[Caller]

I know some people live through all three of those events, so. But that's a minor point that you want to bring up. But the main point I wanted put throw a great New York sports event, which was before my time, but it was a fight between Max Melling and Joe Lewis. The second fight in 1938 at Yankee Stadium. And just to give you a little bit of historical context, they had fought in 36, and it was a huge upset when Maxmeli defeated. Knocked down Joe Lewis. First time Joe Lewis was knocked down and defeated him. And that, you know, the backdrop for that is Hitler's rise to power and you know, the 36 Olympics with Jesse Owens. And they fought again. Jesse Owens actually won the championship in 1937, I think, against Braddock. And he refused to be recognized as the world champion until he beat Schmeling. And they fought in 1938. And you know, at that point, you know, on the brink of war, the Nazi machinist is spewing all kinds of propaganda, racist propaganda, and Joe Louis just pummeled him and within two minutes, I think knocked him down three times and threw something like 40 punches versus two that Schmeling got off. And that just had huge significance for all of America, but certainly for the minority population and the source of great pride for all Americans back then. So I think that was certainly historically one of the greatest, if not the greatest event in New York City history.

[Alan]

Yeah, definitely has to be up there, right? Considering

[Rosenberg]

he's already off the line. But I still wanted to play out

[Alan]

music because I thought it was a good one.

[Rosenberg]

No, it was good. It was good. He gave us some really good stuff. It got a little. We got a little bit into the weeds there, but that was. That was actually. That's a pretty good poll. Not a strange poll.

[Alan]

It's a good poll going into the weeds as opposed to the rest of the listeners that are on the weed.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, man. We have a very special and eclectic listenership. Let's go to Jimmy in Montclair. What's up, Jimmy, man?

[Caller]

I'm gonna try to beat both of those last callers.

[Rosenberg]

What do you got?

[Caller]

Hey, so I got two things here, and it's very frustrating that our Devils are now starting to click with the

[Alan]

season pretty much almost in the rear mirror.

[Caller]

And it was good for them to destroy the Rangers. Now, on another note, I might need. Can I get the sorry music?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you have an apology.

[Alan]

Okay. Interesting.

[Rosenberg]

Well,

[Caller]

sorry, of the listeners,

[Alan]

I'm not

[Caller]

sure exactly who to blame, but during your telemore do read, you've been informing Wrong. The Nets do not play the Nuggets. The Nets actually play the Grizzlies. Not that anyone cares about Nets basketball. I'm a Nets fan. I know I'm a Nets fan.

[Rosenberg]

It is Anthony's fault.

[Alan]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

I hate to do it, but he just said my ear. That's my fault.

[Alan]

Well, you know what?

[Rosenberg]

On Joe Leo Gio, Leo's happy that anyone called to say anything about the Nets. Well, what a call.

[Caller]

I'm a Nets fan.

[Rosenberg]

Good for you.

[Alan]

I get it. No, God bless. I don't know why you're apologizing.

[Rosenberg]

No, you shouldn't be sorry. You did the right thing. Let's play the music again. Give the microphone to Anthony.

[Don Hahn]

I don't even know what I'm apologizing for. They don't play the Nuggets. They haven't played the Nuggets in months. I wrote Nuggets instead of Grizzlies.

[Rosenberg]

That's what you'd be apologizing for.

[Alan]

Are you sorry for it? It sounds more like you don't.

[Don Hahn]

No, I would do it again.

[Alan]

Well, see,

[Rosenberg]

you know what apology that that was like.

[Don Hahn]

And thank you, Jimmy.

[Rosenberg]

That was like the apology of the caller a couple weeks ago about Kenny. There was no apology.

[Don Hahn]

Do not compare me to lying.

[Alan]

Well, we should have to tell them. Or do I think they want accurate information? But that's the first we've been called upon it because I guess nobody knew the mistake. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Rosenberg]

I don't how the sausage is made,

[Alan]

but I just want to know. It's good.

[Rosenberg]

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