Hour 3: Harbaugh Watch

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg — Hour 3: "Harbaugh Watch"

Date: January 12, 2026
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Don La Greca, Peter Rosenberg
Main Theme: Unpacking the ongoing NFL head coach carousel with a focus on the John Harbaugh sweepstakes, quarterback debates for the Jets, and a characteristically offbeat look at music, gaming, and sports life in New York.

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Episode Overview

This lively hour dives deep into the latest NFL coaching rumors, especially the John Harbaugh "watch" as his future hangs in the balance. The hosts, with their signature blend of knowledge and banter, dissect what various coaching and draft moves mean for the Giants, Jets, and broader NFL, while sidetracking into the rhythms of New York sports fandom, inside jokes, and pop culture crossovers.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. NFL Coaching Carousel & Harbaugh Watch (27:47–38:34)

• Harbaugh's Interview Circuit:
  • The Falcons announce a formal interview (later clarified as a phone interview [31:18]), signaling they're eager suitors.
  • Harbaugh is fielding extensive calls from multiple teams: Titans, Browns, Raiders, Cardinals, and the Giants, weighing his options deliberately.
  • Quote, Alan: "So the fact that he has already had a formal interview with the Falcons. Does that make you wonder if he already knew? I want to meet with them and now it's like, who else is worth my time?" (28:08)
• Implications for the Giants:
  • Concern about whether Harbaugh's interest is mutual or if Giants might miss out as other teams jump the line.
  • Don: "Now you just got to hope that he decides to pick your team. And if quarterback is important, I think the Giants are certainly in play." (29:04)
  • Discussion of internal dynamics: Will Harbaugh work with Giants GM Joe Shane, or will changes be needed?
  • Alan: "You're selling yourself, your process and the organization to John Harbaugh. That's what I do think that's what Joe Shane's doing. That's what he has to do now..." (30:34)
• PR Spin and Semantics:
  • Teams announce interviews for optics (PR, appeasing fans, and the Rooney Rule).
  • Peter: "Can I also point out that I think it's weird in general that every team puts out these releases on Twitter?" (32:12)
• Timing and Negotiations:
  • Harbaugh is in no rush, using reported interest to raise his price and carefully pick his spot.
  • Don: "...let the Giants know, hey, I'm talking to Atlanta, I'm talking to the LA and every dollar is in the Giants. I ended up being right. The reports I told you is going to take at least 20 million and that sounds like what it's going to be." (34:25)
  • Harbaugh looking for $20M+ per year, exceeding his previous Baltimore contract.

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2. Jets Quarterback Debate & Fan Frustration (13:52–25:44)

• Jets Fan Therapy:
  • Caller Danny expresses the weariness of perennial Jets suffering and fear of the endless "hamster wheel" of quarterback searching.
  • Quote, Danny: "It's so sad, man... I don't even know what the feeling would be anymore. To watch my team in this predicament, just to enjoy, you know, something, some gratitude, man, out of this. It's just sickening, you know?" (19:15)
• Draft Strategy—Take the Sure Thing or Roll the Dice?
  • Alan and Don debate if the Jets should use the #2 pick on a QB or trade down for capital and a later QB.
  • Don's skepticism: Teams often get swept up in college playoff/QB hype, only to see boards shuffle come draft time.
  • Don: "I'm just saying I think we're putting too much stock in these games." (16:36)
  • Alan: "These games matter, don't they?...That's as close to the NFL as you can get in a college game. And how does he look?" (16:44)
• Trade-Down Scenarios & Draft Possibilities:
  • Callers suggest trading down to #10 (e.g., with Cincinnati), but hosts note the risk of missing out on their guy, particularly with wild cards like Arizona and Cleveland in the mix.
  • Alan: "You just don't want to run the risk of losing the player that you want. But if you think you can do it and still get him at 10, that would be ideal..." (46:02)
• History Repeats—No Easy Fix:
  • The hosts note the Jets have been stuck in a loop, cycling through both young QBs and "legend" retreads.
  • Peter: "Let me add the next ripple. The same Hamster wheel. Oh, my God. A legend's available. Let's get him. We bring them in. Doesn't work out. Back to another." (21:48)
• Organizational Dysfunction:
  • Don brings it home: "You're trying to get around the fact that they don't know what the hell they're doing. So whatever the plan is, they're going to soil themselves." (22:05)

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3. Lighter Moments—Music, Games, and Good-Natured Jabs (07:13–12:11; 41:47–44:04)

• Old Drops & Running Jokes:
  • Teasing Don's legendary "David Blow?" (should be Blau) moment from 2019.
  • Don: "You familiar with the work of David Blow?" (03:00, several times)
• Music, DJ Jabs & 90s R&B:
  • Friendly ribbing over the music choices/knowledge, DJ Jacob from Harlem bridging generational and cultural divides.
  • Peter: "Jacob is a 33-year-old Black man from Harlem... and on the regular just drop songs that makes Don's heart sing." (07:45)
  • Don admits: he recognizes “The Message” by Grandmaster Flash only because of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. (09:18)
• Gaming Talk:
  • Casual updates on which video games Don’s family are into (NHL 25, Gorilla Tag), leading to joking warnings from Peter about the dangers of VR for adolescent boys. (10:31–11:20)
• Pop Culture:
  • Talk of "Heated Rivalry," a trending series about hockey players in a hidden romance, and jokes about fake sports teams on TV. (42:31–43:58)

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4. Media, Reporting, and Sports Journalism Meta-Discussion (11:43–13:48)

• On Pat McAfee & Culture:
  • Caller Brian vents about the Pat McAfee phenomenon, worrying about the line between sports, infotainment, and respect for the craft of journalism.
  • Don: "...You're talking about people that are bad at their jobs, people that cover a sport they hate, trying to get coaches fired, asking stupid questions. I agree with that. Those people should be eradicated as well. They're doing their job poorly, but they are attempting to do their job. She was not doing any job. She just wanted a compliment." (12:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Try to with Favre, you try to at Rodgers... But you're trying to get around the fact that they don't know what the hell they're doing. So whatever the plan is, they're going to soil themselves." — Don La Greca (22:05)

• "We cannot get a quarterback right now and hope to develop him, hope to get it right and he becomes something in two, three, four years from now. We don't have that."
  — Caller Danny (20:21)

• "All of a sudden you let the Giants know, hey, I'm talking to Atlanta, I'm talking to the LA and every dollar is in the Giants... You want at least $20 million a year."
  — Don La Greca (34:25)

• "Teams that have emerged to become special have kind of almost all come from new voices and kind of hotshot young coordinators."
  — Peter Rosenberg (05:10)

• "If you notice in a couple of years that Marco goes upstairs with the VR headset and doesn't come downstairs for eight hours, I'm going to let you know what he's discovered."
  — Peter Rosenberg, raising eyebrows about teens and VR life (10:38)

• "You familiar with the work of David Blow?"
  — Don La Greca (recurring inside joke, multiple times starting at 03:00)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:00] – The infamous "David Blow" anecdote returns.
• [07:45] – Inside jokes about generational music divides; Jacob as DJ.
• [09:18] – Don admits his knowledge of 80s rap comes from Vice City (GTA).
• [10:31] – Jokes about Don’s family playing VR "Gorilla Tag."
• [13:52] – Jets fans’ quarterback despair and the "hamster wheel."
• [19:15] – Caller Danny’s heartfelt plea about lifelong Jets pain.
• [27:47] – Breaking down the latest Harbaugh rumors: interviews, PR, leverage.
• [29:04] – Potential Giants/Harbaugh mutual interest; GM and organizational fit.
• [32:12] – On the PR function of "candidate interview" press releases.
• [34:25] – Harbaugh's leverage play for $20 million+ per year.
• [42:31] – Pop-culture chat: "Heated Rivalry," fake sports shows, Golden Globes joke.

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Summary

This episode is a prime example of Don, Hahn, & Rosenberg's weaving of sharp analysis, wit, and New York sports authenticity. Whether bemoaning the endless churn of Jets’ quarterback “solutions,” dissecting the Giants’ hopes for a blockbuster coaching hire in John Harbaugh, or throwing around inside jokes about hip hop, games, and old sports radio drops, the hosts keep things vivid and relatable. The Harbaugh saga dominates, with the trio parsing both the football repercussions and the chess match of leverage, perception, and PR. Meanwhile, callers add raw energy, voicing the frustrations and hopes of classic NY football fans.
Ultimately, this hour is equal parts therapy, hot stove, and a love letter to the agony and camaraderie of New York sports culture—always mixing gravity with gut-busting sidebars and a refusal to take themselves too seriously.

Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's Charlie time.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don La Greca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey Don, did you hear, I don't know if you heard that my. My commies found themselves in oc.

[Don La Greca]

Oh yeah, you were blow. They were David Blow. The amount of the tweets that I got when that came down was unreal.

[Alan Hahn]

David Blow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So the situation was.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If in that. In that clip. Yeah, we're Doing our picks.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don is explaining why at the time he was not going to pick either Detroit. Probably Detroit.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

It's Friday. It was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's explaining. And as he's given the big, you know, final pick here, here's why I'm not going to. He's trying to tell us who their quarterback is. So he's reading off the paper, we don't know who this is. And he just says, you familiar with.

[Don La Greca]

The work of David Blow?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Of course. His name is David Blau.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that's fine.

[Don La Greca]

Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's fine.

[Alan Hahn]

But.

[Don La Greca]

But I had to figure that out because I'm just looking at his name, not having heard it before, had to make a pick and that drop has lived forever.

[Alan Hahn]

Forever.

[Don La Greca]

I did that pre Covid.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that had to be six years ago. 2019 or 2020.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, yeah. So we're talking about six, seven years ago.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, Don, were you. Were you familiar with the work of David Blow?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, he had no idea. He was reading his name.

[Don La Greca]

You familiar with the work of David Blow?

[Alan Hahn]

What made you say it then?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. B, L, O, U, G. No, I.

[Alan Hahn]

Understand, but what was the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Familiar? Because he's like, they're going to lose. Are you familiar with the work of this guy we've never heard of?

[Don La Greca]

Right. Because I believe it was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, the Lions were playing and he was going to start the game because I guess at the time Matthew Stafford couldn't go gotcha. Because of injury. And that's why I had to explain why I was taking whoever they were playing. You familiar with the work of David Blow?

[Alan Hahn]

Tremendous.

[Don La Greca]

You can hear the music in the background.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now. Now, the New York jets requested in 2025, in the office, 2025 off season, an interview with David Blau to try to get him on Aaron Glenn's.

[Alan Hahn]

And he said no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The commander said no. They denied the request.

[Alan Hahn]

The lion said no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he was. He was already with the commander.

[Alan Hahn]

He was already with the commander?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, under Kingsbury Charger now. Oh, so he was with Kingsbury in Arizona in 2022 as a quarterback. So him and Kingsbury were close. And a lot of people say that some of the trickery Kingsbury's been doing David. The work of David Blow has been involved. And so the commanders, who a lot of people thought would run to get Mike McDaniel, who we know is close with Dan, close with Dan Quinn, instead they went with the like 20 something year old up and coming, which I have to tell you, I Have a tendency to like more than the backing up the brinks truck. Sometimes 10 to get like that name. Because it seems like over the last several years, Don, the teams that have emerged to become special have kind of almost all come from new voices and kind of hotshot young coordinators. You got to try to take some shots at them sometimes.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that has worked. And then in. And it's not worked in Philly. It didn't work.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Offensive court is that. It did not work out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. There obviously be times when it does.

[Alan Hahn]

So it's. Yeah. It all depends. But I. You always look at tree, right? Like where. What trees he offer? Who do you learn from that kind of thing. And if it's. If it's a similar offense and somebody that did play in the league, I mean, that. That's, you know, be interesting.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I would have been excited for Mike. I would have been excited for Mike McDaniels as well. I wonder where he'll land. He. Obviously someone's going to hire him.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It would be interesting to see where Harbaugh goes offensive coordinator wise, should he end up here. Do either of you have a preference of any of the names out there that you'd love to see?

[Alan Hahn]

Offensive coordinator.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Not Todd Monkin.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not Monkin.

[Alan Hahn]

I would probably go with. Not that one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anyone else? Snapback four man rush. Caleb with a double move dribble.

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[Alan Hahn]

How about that guy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's good.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Ben Johnson. He's not available.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't think he's. I don't think. Don't think he's available.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, but the other thing I was thinking about was that, you know, because it's. It's Blau. His last name is Blau.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don La Greca]

So they could have named him Curtis without thinking twice about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Great. Great question. And his name would have been Curtis Blow.

[Don La Greca]

But no, I do not have an offensive coordinator that jumps to mine.

[Alan Hahn]

You're very much in the show today, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would like you to.

[Alan Hahn]

You are.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Alan Hahn]

You were saying before. You're not in. You're not. You are in.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, no, I've been. I've been strategically left out of things.

[Alan Hahn]

Strategically.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He thinks we planned.

[Alan Hahn]

What. What did we strategically do?

[Don La Greca]

Well, Jacob playing popular hip hop songs. He knows Don wouldn't know. And then you guys might feel left out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then we kibitz about it and he's left out.

[Alan Hahn]

He can't. He can't join the fun.

[Caller Danny]

He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now you think we talked about this during, like, the show meeting before you got There.

[Don La Greca]

No, I don't. I don't think you know that.

[Alan Hahn]

We don't plan anything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All we do is talk about what I ate from the grocery store.

[Don La Greca]

No, I think Jacob planned this all weekend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said I'm going to show Don.

[Don La Greca]

Wow.

[Caller Danny]

Wow.

[Don La Greca]

We're going to leave Don out today.

[Alan Hahn]

It's crazy because I hold the highest regard. Not even my resume. Not the fact that I work at espn, just the fact that Don said.

[Caller Danny]

He would let me DJ his wedding.

[Alan Hahn]

That's right, I heard that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And not only that, but for. How old are you, Jacob?

[Alan Hahn]

33.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And where are you from?

[Alan Hahn]

Harlem, New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Jacob is a 33 year old black man from Harlem, New York. And on the regular just drop songs that makes Don's heart sing. And then he has one day, one day when he plays some hip hop records.

[Alan Hahn]

Feels like let me go here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Don goes coming after me.

[Don La Greca]

Hip hop that I don't know. But currently popular enough for you guys to analyze?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, very much so.

[Alan Hahn]

Just because I recognized a sample that was an earlier R B song and.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know that's Alan's wheelhouse, you know.

[Alan Hahn]

90S, 90s R B, come on. It's too easy. Fish in a barrel. Also too. Anthony has the biggest gripe on the show because has no interest in music, but yet we still drill it every day. Oh, and he gets a great point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he hates it all.

[Alan Hahn]

He's already. Is he, Is he already starting to spasm over there? I think he lost it after the first segment in three o'. Clock.

[Don La Greca]

But that's kind of on him because like how do you not have music in your life? What's the matter with you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we know Don would take music over sports.

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't say anything. How am I getting strays for saying that's your partner. That's your partner in there. You guys do a thing.

[Don La Greca]

You're on the other side this weekend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here you go.

[Don La Greca]

Why don't you hatch this Saturday?

[Caller Danny]

What game is being.

[Don La Greca]

You know how Alan, you know from.

[Alan Hahn]

The, from, from the old shows. You know how I'd have it. Have we come back? Silence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's how she likes it. Sports time. Let's go, Don. Here's a rap beat.

[Alan Hahn]

We know you'll love those 90s. That's crazy. That was like 30 years ago. See, now we're old men. Oh, you know this, right? Donnie.

[Don La Greca]

You're gonna laugh at how I know.

[Alan Hahn]

How do you know it's Ice Cube?

[Don La Greca]

Because it's played during when I play Vice City. This is one of the songs on the soundtrack to the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the Ice Cube version, though. Or is the. No, it's the actual. The message by Grandmaster Flash.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, that one.

[Don La Greca]

Yeah. Because it's. It's set in the 80s, so every. Every car you steal. Tremendous.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you didn't know it in the 80s.

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow. What are you stealing? Like an 86 Buick Regal? What are we. Still.

[Don La Greca]

Whatever is available, and then whatever radio station happens to be on. There's not when you played it as much as I played it, you know, 20 years ago. And I'll still. I have the app, so I'll play it. Like, on the plane.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you're still playing it, huh?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, I've already finished it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Speaking of playing, let's get an update on what's going on with the PS5. IS. What are Marco and Jalen playing over there?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Don La Greca]

What's.

[Alan Hahn]

The game.

[Don La Greca]

Is NHL 2426.

[Alan Hahn]

It's on. It's discounted now. It's.

[Don La Greca]

Got it. We're 25. Excuse me. 25.

[Alan Hahn]

Still not 26.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's hockey, man.

[Don La Greca]

And on his VR headset, he's playing gorilla tag.

[Alan Hahn]

He's playing what?

[Don La Greca]

Gorilla tag.

[Alan Hahn]

Gorilla tag.

[Don La Greca]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna give you a warning right now.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't. Just don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm saying one thing.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm going to keep it very, very brief.

[Alan Hahn]

Please.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you notice in a couple of years that Marco goes upstairs with the VR headset and doesn't come downstairs for eight hours, I'm going to let you know what he's discovered.

[Alan Hahn]

Why would you do this?

[Don La Greca]

Why would Peter.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's eight. Just don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so you got like, four years, but in four years. In four or five years, when he disappears and you go, what happened to Marco? And he comes downstairs smoking a cigar, you know what happened?

[Don La Greca]

Well, the funny thing is, you'll see him. Like, he doesn't know we're watching him.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

And so he's making all these, like, gyrations in the game, but it makes no sense out of context. Sure. We don't see what he's playing.

[Alan Hahn]

Do you record it?

[Don La Greca]

But what you're suggesting, the gyrations might be something completely different and make a little bit more sense.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if he does it in front of the family, that's a secondary problem.

[Alan Hahn]

Record it. Threaten to post it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anyways, just be careful with that VR headset.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's get back to calls. 800 now. 193776. Let's go to Brian and Sleepy Hollow. What's up, Brian?

[Caller Brian]

How's it going, guys? So I start by saying McAfee is a big hackadoodle do, and he's at the crossroads with everything that's wrong with American culture. But I digress.

[Alan Hahn]

How's it working out for him?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, right.

[Caller Brian]

That's the kind of thing. It's all about money, you know, but.

[Alan Hahn]

Last I checked, I.

[Caller Brian]

Like the first time. The first time I saw that, the clip of the woman saying that I showed my fiance. Oh, that's nice.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller Brian]

But I went to journalism school. I understand what it's like to be a reporter, and it was a nice thing, but I don't know, it's for McAfee to clap back like that. It's like, all right, we don't need you in every part of culture. You know, it's every. That whole surface level, like, I'm gonna have an opinion.

[Caller Izzy]

Everything's gotta be fun.

[Alan Hahn]

Well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How aggressive was his clap back?

[Alan Hahn]

He wrote several paragraphs condemning those who had any problem with it and talking about how, like, there's a lot of members of the media who hate the sport they cover, and it's very negative.

[Caller Brian]

You know, not everything has to be a binary.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that.

[Alan Hahn]

But that is true, because what you're.

[Don La Greca]

Talking about, you're talking about people that are bad at their jobs, people that cover a sport they hate, trying to get coaches fired, asking stupid questions. I agree with that. Those people should be eradicated as well. They're doing their job poorly, but they are attempting to do their job. She was not doing any job. She just wanted a compliment. Okay, fine. But there's a time and place for everything. That's okay. It's beautiful. It's wonderful. It's more. We should have more of that in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Our life, in our world.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Don La Greca]

It was just ill timed. It just. That's. You could do that after. And I also think before we start, like, oh, so all these things are strategic. Anyway, so there's a very good possibility she knew exactly what she was doing. She knew how viral it was going to get. So you wonder how nice was it, or was it just a moment to get her 15 minutes? It may not be, but that's also on the table. Right? Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

What else you got, Brian?

[Caller Brian]

I understand, like, what. Where you're coming from, but I'm a Jets fan with, like, the whole, you know, don't go for a quarterback in number two. But I. After Friday night, I definitely felt like you, like, maybe we should get best player Available and, I don't know, see if, you know, Trinidad will be second round or something like that. Yeah, but I, I just think, you know, you got to just give it a little time. I, I like some of, like, I like his release more. I like his. He's definitely raw and he could put like about 20 pounds, but I, I don't know, I, I think we should draft him because we don't have to trade up to get him. If it's trading up for him, no way. But, you know, you're only here a couple of times at number two spot.

[Alan Hahn]

And you can't, like, you know, said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He'S raw and you like the release, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, Brian. Yeah, Everything, everything you're saying makes sense for a competent organization, right, Brian?

[Caller Brian]

Like, what makes your way out of it, though? You're making the tail, you know, you gotta, you gotta take a shot at some point.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. The problem is they, like when you said, and thank you, Brian. When you say, well, you know, you only get here a certain amount of times. They got here. They get here a lot of times. Guys, they've been in the top 10 every year. Like, they always have these picks and so you can't say, oh, well, you're, you know, you don't hear that often. No, they are. They were only here a couple of years ago and they made a mistake there. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying is you could take that pick and you could turn it into more picks that can make you better and still get a quarterback later. In fact, you could still get a quarterback and take him too high, but it won't be too high.

[Don La Greca]

But, but I'm saying, and I actually.

[Alan Hahn]

Think Chambers has something else that goes beyond his release point and his athleticism. It's. There's something about him that I saw in that game that he went toe to toe and had a chance to win. A team that shouldn't have been there, a team that had no chance winning that game, and he was right there against a great defense and he was that close to going to the national championship, man. So there's something more in him that I think can look like you put him in the. With the jets and, and he might actually be able to survive it better than somebody who has a great release point and has very athletic, but is a box of rocks and I got to teach him.

[Don La Greca]

But we're, we're all putting so much stock in what we're seeing in these games.

[Alan Hahn]

But the games matter, don't they?

[Don La Greca]

They do But, Becky, go out there and beat Indiana. Is he getting drafted, too?

[Alan Hahn]

No, he's getting drafted.

[Don La Greca]

He's going to play in the national championship game.

[Alan Hahn]

He's going to. He's getting drafted.

[Don La Greca]

But, no, he's not going to get considered drafted where you're talking. And he might win the national championship.

[Alan Hahn]

Where am I talking? Not number two.

[Don La Greca]

Exactly.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not taking. I didn't say I wouldn't take it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

I'm aware you don't hear him talking or whatever, but I'm just saying I think we're putting too much stock in these games.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I see. I disagree, Don. I think these games not, not like a, you know, a game against Penn State in the middle of the year. I'm talking about a game with so much on the line, so much intensity. So, like, this is as close to NFL when it comes to intensity. People watching the, the. The amount of preparation, all of it, like, that's as close to the NFL as you can get in a college game. And how does he look? Does he look overwhelmed? Does he look surprised as he. Does he? Does his flaws show, or does he rise to the occasion? Is he the reason why his team can win? Yeah, I mean, Chambers took that team down the field and had a chance to win against a really good Miami defense. That tells me this. I wish to him that I need to know more.

[Don La Greca]

I wish it was more about that, but it just doesn't seem like no history.

[Alan Hahn]

But. But a pro day, you can learn a lot about him. I sit down with him, I spend some time with them. I'm going to learn more about him in that situation, in a controlled environment.

[Don La Greca]

Then explain to me why these guys move more after the season than they do during the season. I'm telling you, we're going to. We're going to. Look, I might be wrong about this, and I'll be here if I am, but when we get to the draft in April, let's see if we're still talking about the same players.

[Alan Hahn]

That was weird.

[Don La Greca]

Let's see if we're still talking about them in the same order. We're talking about them now. It happens every year. And then all of a sudden, something happens. A conversation, a pro day, a Wonderlic test, an interview. And then all of a sudden, we're sitting there in April and we're talking. We're like, whatever happened to that guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were talking about that was going.

[Don La Greca]

To go in the first round?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I get what you're saying. How often, though, do we see? Because this is the first time we've had expanded playoffs, do we see a quarterback that's high, like considered high up there? That is. We're seeing in these pressure situations. Joe Burrow went number one, Trevor Lawrence went number one. Right. How many of these quarterbacks that were drafted high were also playing for a national championship?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

So that created more opportunity.

[Alan Hahn]

I think it's just allowed us to see them under pressure. Danny and Centerport. Hey, Danny. Hey, guys.

[Caller Danny]

How we doing?

[Alan Hahn]

Good. So how do you feel about this, Danny? You're a die hard jets fan.

[Caller Izzy]

You know what, Alan? You know, before I get to my quarterback point, you know, and I appreciate it because you guys, you guys are my therapy and I don't have much left in me, man, but you know, it's just, you know, Alan is another five months man of my life that I'm never getting back, you know, and I just feel like it's. There is no end in sight, you know, it's so sad, man. Like you, you guys have your algorithms in your phone that you follow. And of course, one of mine is the Jets. And the memories, my algorithm starts flashing to me this week of 15, 16 years ago of John hall making a kick, you know, to beat the Colts and things that. I was 40 years old then, man. I'm 55, 56 years old. I just can't believe that is another five months of my life that is just gone wasted. You know, I watched every minute of every game yesterday and I just sat back and said, I don't even know what the feeling would be anymore. To watch my team in this predicament, just to enjoy, you know, something, some gratitude, man, out of this. It's just sickening, you know? So past that, let's get to the quarterback, right? I understand everything you guys are saying. It's all valid, the drafting and wearing this and that you, you know what? The one thing that this regime did was get rid of those guys and get these picks. So I'm sorry if I'm being stupid, if I'm. If I'm. If I've had enough. But the bottom line is go stockpile a couple of these picks and go get a proven quarterback because we cannot get in his hamster wheel again. We cannot get a quarterback right now and hope to develop him, hope to get it right and he becomes something in two, three, four years from now. We don't have that. There's nothing left for, for us to do. It'll be an empty stadium and another. Another coaching carousel because it's just gonna Fail. Go get me a proven quarterback. Make them an offer. Somebody that they can't refuse. Right. It seems like Baltimore's in a little bit of a change here. Go get Lamar Jackson. Go get Mahomes. Go get Burrow. Give them whatever the hell they want because we need something proven here, man. We can't get do this anymore. I just can't, man. It's so disheartening, guys.

[Alan Hahn]

I hear it, man, like. Like what you're saying. Thank you, Danny. What? And I guess like Don is using logic and reason and you could hear it. Danny doesn't have any of that. I don't have it either. So that's why I just like.

[Caller Danny]

But it's.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't want to get what Danny said. The hamster wheel. That's my fear going into this draft in this, this offseason process is that hamster wheel again of. Got a number two pick. Take the best quarterback available. See if he can turn into a star. He sucks. Got the number two pick. Take the best quarterback available, see if he's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I add to them? No.

[Alan Hahn]

He sucks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hamster wheel. Let me add the next ripple. The same Hamster wheel. Oh, my God. A legend's available. Let's get him. We bring them in. Doesn't work out. Back to another. Pick it either way. It's, you know, it's. It's 50 cents in one hand, half a dollar in the other. It's not working out either way.

[Don La Greca]

Try to with Farve, you try to at Rogers. You know, it worked to an extent with test averity because that's when you had a functioning organization. But you're trying to get around the fact that they don't know what the hell they're doing. So whatever the plan is, they're going to soil themselves. So I appreciate your effort, but right now it's making sure you get the right people in place or hope you have the right people in place.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

Well, if you don't, then nothing is going to work.

[Alan Hahn]

To Peter's point, that's that, I guess that nothing working. That's the part that I think I'd put my money down on versus anything else.

[Don La Greca]

Hey, we talked Burrow, right. And if there's some scenario. Of course, Burrow.

[Alan Hahn]

But.

[Don La Greca]

But outside of Burrow and Lamar Jackson, who I don't think Baltimore. I think they made their choice who they wanted to keep. That's why they let John Harbaugh go, right? What quarterbacks available?

[Alan Hahn]

No. No one that is going to move the needle or give you any movement but somebody that can get you down the road until you are in a better position to find another quarterback. Like somebody better. There's somebody capable because what we learned this year that Justin Fields was not capable Quick break.

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[Don La Greca]

Well, keep, you know, keep playing the game.

[Alan Hahn]

What game are we? We're not playing a game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He thinks he's a reindeer game. Does he think that we talked to Jacob during the break?

[Alan Hahn]

We literally do not.

[Don La Greca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

The only thing Jake said to me during the break was, you have espn. Great. That was it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was that a drop?

[Alan Hahn]

What was that? Was that a drop? Yeah, that was Don's impression of Richard from head.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I hear it again? Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. I got one quickie. That's really good. Right?

[Caller Izzy]

Oh, great.

[Alan Hahn]

The latest on John Harbaugh came down about an hour ago.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Richard of Manhattan. Hi, Richard.

[Alan Hahn]

From Adam Schefter. So the. The Falcons put an announcement saying they have completed an interview with John Harbaugh for their head coaching job.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ah, wow. Falcons got it in already, huh?

[Alan Hahn]

It's the first formal interview since he was fired by the Ravens last week. But sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday that Harbaugh has been conducting preliminary and extensive phone calls with other teams such as the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders, the Cardinals, and of course, the New York Football Giants. So he's trying to determine which teams to meet with later this week and into next week before deciding where he's going to coach next season. So the fact that he has already had a formal Interview with the Falcons. Does that make you wonder if he already knew? I want to meet with them and now it's like, who else is worth my time? And should the Giants be concerned about that? Because every time the Giants feel close, there's always some kind of curveball coming in, whether it's the Dolphins, whether it's the Packers. How do we feel about this, dog?

[Don La Greca]

Well, the curveballs are coming from outside.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

They can't control if the packers fire their coach. But every indication they should have is, is that they're going to get a sit down with them. There's mutual interest. And now you just got to hope that he decides to pick your team. And if quarterback is important, I think the Giants are certainly in play. Now you can make the case that he might believe in Ward more than Dart. Clearly, Cam ward was the first overall pick. Dart was 25. So if he, if he picked Tennessee over the Giants because of the quarterback, what else can you do? Now it's just a matter of the Joe Shane of it all. Yeah, Joe Shane is somebody he wants to work with. Giants willing to part ways with Joe Shane, Atlantic Cleveland.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, Matt Ryan is there at the top, but you know, you could bring in your own GM in Atlanta.

[Don La Greca]

And I think there could be a world where a new GM can come in. Shane still keeps his job because, you know, Joe Shane apparently was able to modernize their scouting and so maybe there's a place for him. Maybe Joe Shane walks away and says, well, if I'm not the general manager, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to let Joe Shane stand in the way of John Harbaugh coming here. I don't care how big a fan you are of Joe Shane, you never gave him a contract extension.

[Alan Hahn]

I think for good reason.

[Don La Greca]

Tell me you really believe in him.

[Alan Hahn]

They want to see how this process work, right?

[Don La Greca]

Yeah, they want to see how the process and part of that is all right. Does the new head coach want to work with you or not? Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You're selling the organization.

[Don La Greca]

Probably part of the phone conversation.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. You're selling yourself, your process and the organization to John Harbaugh. That's what I do think that's what Joe Shane's doing. That's what he has to do now in, in Atlanta. Did. I mean, did he. Did he sit down with Matt Ryan? Did he said, I didn't see the statement. So was it. They said there was a formal interview. Ian o' Connor said it was just a phone call. Interesting. Yeah, that's What's. There's so much gray area with this. Like, why would they put out that statement? Ian said John Harbaugh talked to Matt Ryan of the Falcons, but not in person. My understanding is no in person interviews on the docket as of yet. There you go.

[Don La Greca]

Okay, well, formal interview, in person interview. We're playing semantics here.

[Alan Hahn]

The zoom, you know, they could have.

[Don La Greca]

Had a three hour phone conversation into the Falcons. That was a formal interview.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. He talked to Matt.

[Don La Greca]

John Harbaugh might just be a getting to know you.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, so that's what that was. So he talked. That's what I was trying to figure out from this. Because when you read the story as written, it says the Atlanta Falcons announced Monday they've completed an interview with John Harbaugh for their head coaching job. It is Harbaugh's first formal interview. So when I read those, that's the first paragraph and second line on a story on ESPN.com that was posted at 4:15pm Eastern time. When I read that, that suggests to me that he was either in Atlanta or those from Atlanta went to him and shot down. When you say formal. Right. When, when, when the Falcons announce. Like, have the Giants announced that they've talked to him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, we've heard the Giants.

[Alan Hahn]

The Falcons have announced it. So that suggests it seemed a little more serious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I also point out that I think it's weird in general that every team puts out these releases on Twitter.

[Alan Hahn]

They have to, though, because again, the Rooney rule thing that you are, you put out who you were interviewing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, so they have to put up a post that you have to post. The Ravens interviewed Cliff Kingsbury with a picture of him.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's just what they do. They have to do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They can't just report to the league. It has to be reported to everybody.

[Alan Hahn]

It has to be made public.

[Don La Greca]

I mean, it's pr, right? I mean, let your fans know, hey, we're talking to John Harbaugh.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don La Greca]

We scoured every candidate possible.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

I think this is more Atlanta trying to flex and say they got the first interview. But meanwhile, nobody does it better than Ian, you know, you know, Connor's saying he's not meeting with anybody in person because in person, to me, that's real. That that's. Now we're getting into the formality of an interview. You can have phone conversations now, the Giants might have had a phone conversation, but didn't think it was worthy to release it because they know they don't want until he comes into their facility. It's not. It's not real. Yeah. But to the Falcons. Why not send out a release. Hey, look at us. We're ahead of the game.

[Alan Hahn]

So this is going to probably.

[Don La Greca]

They're going to go quarterback there.

[Alan Hahn]

So, so he's. So they get the line. The next line that gets my attention from the story is he, he is trying to determine which teams to meet with later this week and into and into next week before deciding where he will coach next season. This is all Adam Schefter getting this information. So I know, Don, you were looking at Friday, but if he's saying later this week and into next week before he makes the decision, sounds more like he might not decide until before the championship round.

[Don La Greca]

Well, I said the. At the. My prediction was at the earliest Friday. I mean today is Monday. So it sounds like that that's not going to happen. If he's not going to wait, he's going to wait till the following week.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

So he's going to. He's going to. He's going to do it at his own pace.

[Alan Hahn]

Slow play, see what else opens. And if he wanted a job, he would have taken it. Like he'd already be in that process, don't you think? To me that almost is a little. Doesn't mean the Giants can't get him. But it doesn't sound like, like, you know, Giant shop. No, I want that. Like I'm not wasting any time. I'm taking that job.

[Don La Greca]

But let's just say for sake of argument, he really wants the Giants and all and he wants no other job of the Giants. I'm not saying that that's the case, but let's just say for sake of argument, that's where he's at. And it would behoove him to at least send out smoke signals that I am. I'm talking to other people, try to drive the price up. I ended up being right. The reports I told you is going to take at least 20 million and that sounds like what it's going to be. You want at least $20 million a year.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

So all of a sudden you let the Giants know, hey, I'm talking to Atlanta, I'm talking to the la and every dollar is in the Giants. I his previous maybe we'll give you 25.

[Alan Hahn]

His deal in Baltimore that he walked away for or that they fired him from was 17 a year. The extension he signed. So he's. Yeah, he was already going to be up there. That's more than his brother.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

Don't have to announce interviews. Giants aren't doing it and then. But you know, they've been like other teams. They've been in touch so they don't have to. With Harbaugh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's interesting.

[Alan Hahn]

But. But, yeah, but we were wrong about. I wanted to correct myself because it's. Every team seems to do it whenever they interview somebody, they pr. But I thought it was fire your.

[Don La Greca]

Fans up, I guess.

[Alan Hahn]

Although not every interview is going to fire people up. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're.

[Don La Greca]

You're reading reports of where he's going to go, predicting he's going to go to the Giants or whatever. And you're Atlanta going, well, we need a coach. And you know that's not going to fire you up. That the first formal interview John Harbaugh did was with you. Even if it ends up and then Hemantics and not really true.

[Alan Hahn]

Ian takes the bucket of water and just dumps it on it. Like that was on the phone.

[Don La Greca]

That's gonna happen anyway once. Once the announcements made and love it. And. And you're hiring whoever.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

But no, I think that's strictly pr.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, the Giants have been in touch with him. Gary has said it. Ian has said it. Like it's clear. They've made it clear to him that he is a priority. They have interviewed others along the way just because you don't know how it's going to end up and you want to make sure you're still in the process, which why Stefanski was given a lot of priority at the very beginning. They have brought in others as well, including again, Antonio Pierce, who they have high regard for. So they are still in the process. And then we'll see what happens tonight and whatever comes of this to see if it even opens up even more things and more speculation. But, you know, this is the big fish and so everybody's gonna be following this along and it just doesn't feel like we're gonna see this come to a. It's not gonna come to a quick ending, which it shouldn't. But I'm only saying that you'd think if there was a job that was his, like this is the one I want, it would be sooner rather than later. But it doesn't seem like the work right. Like he wants to, like, let me see everybody's situation and then I'll pick the ones that feel like would be good for me and then how do they sell it to me and what vibe do I get in the building? So he's really going to take his time, which is a smart thing to do. But it also suggests there isn't that one dream job that he's like, oh, I want that job, right.

[Don La Greca]

But he knows a lot about these teams anyway. I think it's answering a few questions. What's going on with Joe Shane? What's the plan there? I think he already knows, but I think these coaches know everybody, even teams that they didn't play. He just played the Giants last year. He knows the organization. I just think he's got a few questions. And with the Giants, my biggest question would be, what's up with Joe Shane and what's up with John Mara?

[Alan Hahn]

That's another one too.

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[Alan Hahn]

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Way back in the day when it came out, when it came out family affair, they this was like their thing when they it was so bizarre because you're like you never heard R and B in hockey. Well, that's what I mean. It's like, like that never really was a. Now every locker room it's all you have is hip hop now in hockey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don has song from. I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

You know this song?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You heard it or.

[Don La Greca]

No, not sure. No, I don't think so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not sure though. It's possible. Hey, speaking of hockey.

[Don La Greca]

It's possible.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Speaking of hockey, anybody. Tell me, any of the youngsters in your family, has anyone gotten into heated rivalry?

[Alan Hahn]

Heated rivalry?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. No one has.

[Don La Greca]

I've heard about it. Yeah, Anthony had a chance to watch.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anthony, you checked it out.

[Alan Hahn]

I have not watched it. Tell me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's a. It's a very, apparently very popular story about two hockey players who fall in love and have like a secret hidden romance and their hockey. I don't know if they're in. I don't know if they're. They may be college age. I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

No, there. There's a fake. There's a Montreal team and a New York team. Pro league? Yeah, it's pro league.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why do they do that? If you're going to do a fake sports show, I really prefer you either keep it amateur like don't try to do like the teams from Tecmo bowl or double dribble. Okay. I hate that.

[Alan Hahn]

I think there's books about. I think there's a New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right. That's right, Anthony. I think it's like they're like from these kind of romance books.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, is that what it's from?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's termed. It's like a very big thing. And the two guys who were in it presented last night at the Golden Globes and Nikki Glaser had a joke about it and she's like, you know, I just think it's really cool now that they're willing to do things like this and, and shows stories like. Like their story on television. Of course. I mean stories about hockey.

[Alan Hahn]

That's. I think Gracie actually would. Would know this. I would think I will ask her about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would think. Because it's the teeny. It's a teeny story slot.

[Alan Hahn]

Are they. Are they cute boys?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, I'm not the best analyzer, but I'm pretty sure the gentlemen were pretty handsome.

[Alan Hahn]

Usually what will draw the eyeballs of a teenage girl. Game time, everybody. Brought to you by Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey. Because Don, when it's game time, it's trolley time. Sure is. Rangers back at home, they face the Kraken. What's the over under? Yeah. Coverage immediately follows us on 880 at 6:30. You hear Don, he's in Minnesota with the Devils. They take on the wild at 8pm Eastern. Then the Nets, they're in Dallas. They face the Mavericks at 8:30. Those are the locals. And of course, Monday Night Football, the final game of wild card weekend. The Texans at the Steelers Telemore. Do the original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Telemardu or try the new Telemardu honey during today's action. Glasses up to enjoying Telemardu responsibly. Well, we had a bunch of calls. Oh, we still have a few more.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What the hell happened?

[Alan Hahn]

800-919-3776. They know Enn's coming. Izzy is in Dallas. The aforementioned Dallas, where the Nets are playing. Izzy, true enough.

[Caller Brian]

How you doing, fellas?

[Alan Hahn]

Good.

[Caller Brian]

You guys. You guys were talking earlier about whether the jets should take or should not take Dante Moore, develop him. Taking what you think he's going to grow and all that stuff and maybe think about who's picking after us and wanted to compose the trades to you guys and see if it would possibly work.

[Alan Hahn]

Love it.

[Caller Brian]

If they trade down to Cincinnati spot at 10, we just have to fade the Cleveland Browns and we could still pick more at 10. Add some picks. It's a little less risk taking them at 10 than that 2.

[Alan Hahn]

Fair.

[Caller Brian]

And what do you think?

[Alan Hahn]

I don't hate that, guys. And you're getting draft capital because you're moving down. So now you're filling your pocket and you still have a chance to even take the guy. Thoughts exactly.

[Don La Greca]

Well, you just don't want to run the risk of losing the player that you want. But if you think you can do it and still get him at 10, that would be ideal. But he just admitted Cleveland sitting there. Are they going to add another quarterback? They may.

[Alan Hahn]

And then what happens? My God. I mean, another quarterback.

[Caller Brian]

I mean, you know desean's coming back, right? He's going to be under contract and back in the building here.

[Alan Hahn]

Give you the names if you move to 10 in this proposed trade by Izzy. All right, so you know already Mendoza's off the board at number one. The Bengals are not taking a quarterback at number two, the Cardinals. Now they could if they. Because they want to get out of the Kyler Murray business. Right? They just fired the coach, so that's a dangerous play. Tennessee? No. Giants? No. Cleveland at 6. That's what you worry about because you did. That's a wild card. Washington? No. No. Orleans?

[Don La Greca]

No, I don't think.

[Alan Hahn]

Do they think they found the guy?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Tyler Schuck.

[Don La Greca]

It feels like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They seem to be super into him.

[Alan Hahn]

Kellen Moore did a nice job with him. Kansas City. No. So I guess what is he suggesting, guys, is that you'd have to just Cleveland as the wild card. Right. And also Arizona as a wild card.

[Don La Greca]

Because two teams, that's tough, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

You really like him.

[Alan Hahn]

Have to know, boy, that's, that's really like. Because Miami at 11 is. They could take a quarterback. They could.

[Don La Greca]

Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. But at 10. But that's two teams. Arizona could, Cleveland could. I mean, that's an awful risk to take. Now if you've got two quarterbacks you feel equally about or you've got a plan B where you're okay with plan B, then by all means, give it a try. But if you love more, then don't mess around, man. Could you. I can't say for certainty that Arizona and Cleveland would pass on them.

[Alan Hahn]

No, you can't Cleveland. You never know. I mean, they, you could tell they don't love Sanders. I think they figured out that, that Gabriel's not the guy. They do have Deshaun Watson. They have to play him and the expectation is he'll be healthy and ready to play next year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And for that there I highly doubt. They'd have to be in full bloom love with somebody.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Otherwise you're going to.

[Alan Hahn]

You think you can gamble on Cleveland's not going to take a QB there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, again, it depends on how much you love the guy.

[Alan Hahn]

See, Moore is a guy that. If I had a Watson, I know I have to play him. Then I'm like, all right, I can, I can give him a gap year, bring him in the league. He doesn't have to play. He can learn. We can get him. Right. He can get some reps. And we know that in a year then maybe he'll be ready to go. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'm fine with that. It's just all, I wish the jets.

[Alan Hahn]

Could do that, but they just don't have a guy like Fields could have been that guy. But I don't. I don't want him to be my quarterback for another season.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it did not go well. No, that you can't do. Trotting out Fields again means we're taking the year off. We're hoping to get another draft.

[Don La Greca]

I'm almost guys to play.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don La Greca]

If you're looking for just a guy that you could find a. You could find a quarterback to play for you that's better than what you had last year.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. And I think that's what you should do. See, again, my feelings on trading out is trade attitude to somebody who wants more and is willing to give me draft capital. And I'll take Chambliss later. So at least I still have a rookie quarterback that I didn't have to use a 2 pick. But I still fill my pockets with some more draft capital to make my roster better. And then I find, like you said, Don, I find the guy that can just bridge for a year or so and they're all over the league. We've seen this. We've seen the Daniel Jones is in the Sam Darnolds that pop up and all of a sudden they gave you a year. This has happened. You know, is Mac Jones somebody. Did he do enough in San Francisco to make you feel like, you know what? I'll let him do a year in my offense? You know, I mean, I just need somebody that can be an accurate thrower because I don't have one right now. So that's what I mean when I say, I don't mean that I'm passing on more because I can get him later. I'm passing on more because I'm not ready for him now. And I can. I want to get a team that wants him to give me some draft capital. And I can still get a quarterback out of this draft that I still think could be useful. We got a lot of. I know we have a lot of time to talk about it, but today was interesting because of coming off of that semifinal performance. Coming up next, the two greatest words in sports. Enn Next.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, hold on. But before that, I have the next two best words.

[Alan Hahn]

The next two or maybe two.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe the two best words in sports.

[Alan Hahn]

Best.

[Peter Rosenberg]

FanDuel.

[Alan Hahn]

Is that two or one?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, it was two. And then it's together. It's FanDuel.

[Alan Hahn]

They made it one. That's right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And the final wild card matchup is tonight. You know that Houston and Pittsburgh. Of course, Don and I love Houston. Given with three points, Allen decided to go with the Steelers getting the points. The game's in Pittsburgh and you can do what you want. You'll find a pack loaded with multiple profit boosts waiting for you in the app. All right, so like I said, I got the Texans to cover the number, but you could take your shot on an upset or build a parlay that fits the moment for you. Then apply your profit boosts and go after even bigger payouts while the playoffs get rolling.

[Don La Greca]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers before you go.

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