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Don Hahn
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Don Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
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Peter Rosenberg
All right, Don Hahn and Rosenberg.
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Michael Rosenberg
Come on, say it like Don does. Five o' clock in the big city.
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Peter Rosenberg
504 in the big city.
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Michael Rosenberg
I just, I love that. I know it's very radio y, but.
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Peter Rosenberg
It'S just I. I've learned to embrace it now that Don is, when he's here, is captain and running point. I've learned to sort of embrace it. It used to crack me up, though. And, like, we're all on the show and then Michael leaves and Don's being all crazy Don. And then we come out of the next break and he hits you with the 504 in the big city.
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Michael Rosenberg
He becomes Wolfman Jack, Wolf Man Don.
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Peter Rosenberg
AKA the Wolf of Weehawken.
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Michael Rosenberg
The Wolf of Weehawken.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. But listen, we wanted to bring on Jeff Nelson to break things down as we get ready for Yankees Red Sox kicking off tonight. A big four game. Set. Jeff, what's up? It's Peter and Allen. How are you? I'm good. Peter.
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Jeff Nelson
Allen, how are you guys?
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Michael Rosenberg
Good. So Peter called me out earlier because as we were talking about having you on later in the show and, like, look, I have known of you for like the last 25 years, almost 30 years, right? Like watching baseball and being a Yankees fan. So I just said, you know, Nelly coming on. And he's just like, oh, you're at that. You're at that basis. You can call him Nelly. I'm like, well, I mean, I'd rather.
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Jeff Nelson
People call me Nelly than Jeff. Michael. Now, Michael, always. He's always a first name guy.
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Michael Rosenberg
Very formal. Very formal. Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
So he's so.
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Jeff Nelson
Everybody calls me Nelly. If somebody calls me Jeff, I don't even know who they're talking about.
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Michael Rosenberg
He's a.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's a lunatic. Michael. But Jeff, let me.
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Jeff Nelson
Nelly.
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Peter Rosenberg
Nelly.
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Michael Rosenberg
Sorry.
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Peter Rosenberg
Let me get started. It's getting hot in her. What can I say?
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Michael Rosenberg
Nicely done.
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Peter Rosenberg
Thank you. So Allen is hyped for this series. You know, this has been a bizarre, another sort of bizarre Yankee season, although I imagine we should be used to it by now. But this one particularly interesting on how we've landed in this spot where you can sort of be potentially excited about what the next couple of months hold or completely sort of despondent about it. How, how important do you view this series for the Yankees?
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Jeff Nelson
Very, very. You know, they have, what, 36 games left. You know, I just took a glance at both the Red Sox, the Blue Jays and the Yankees schedule going forward. I think the Blue Jays have a tougher schedule out of all three teams. Boston and New York pretty similar as far as who they, who they're playing. But for the Yankees, they had a great road trip. They beat up on some poor teams, the Cardinals and the Rays. But, but still, you won five in a row, so that's what that's on the road, so that's what you needed to do. Now you come back in a series that I think, I don't even think a split would be. Would be very encouraging for the Yankees. I think you got to take three out of four.
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Michael Rosenberg
I agree. See, that's that. I also feel like, look, I know everything's analytics now, right. But I do still feel like there are some psychological things that go on in this sport that you can't quantify with numbers. What happened in June in those two series, especially the one that June 13th that we. The Flag Day weekend where it seemed like that the season turned. It's the Red Sox knocked the Yankees off of the rail that they were on to start the year. And if you, you, I almost feel like you need a psychological bump out of this series that not only is it involving the Red Sox, but it also involves the fact that they got on a bit of a roll here that they might have found themselves again. Now, are they beating bad teams? Yes. But hey, you got to beat what's in front of you, right? But to take three out of four in a series like this and then get back to a soft schedule, I think the psychological impact of beating, getting three out of four, putting the Red Sox a little further in the rear view, it's gotta do something in the clubhouse, does it not? I mean, as a former player, does that stuff matter or is it Java? No, it's still a long season. It's only August and, you know, it doesn't matter nearly as much as it would in a Postseason.
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Jeff Nelson
No, I totally agree. I think it definitely matters. This isn't a long season anymore. It's only 36 games and you're playing a team that, well, was ahead of you. Now they're a game and a half behind you. So this is, this is a series that, like you said, psychologically could impact the rest of your season. You know, I'm not going to say, oh, if you lose three out of four, the Yankees are done. I mean, that's not going to happen. I don't think the American League is a strong league. There's not really. I don't think that team behind you that can overtake a playoff spot for either the Yankees or the Red Sox. I think they'll both wind up making it, but it could, it could. Losing three out of four to the Red Sox. It could put you like when you were, what about a week or so ago when you were playing really poor baseball. Now they have to go out and Yankees do, and they have to play fundamentally sound ball. They have to run the bases well and they have to field well. When they were going poor, poorly, that. That's what happened. They were not a good fundamental team. They weren't a good fundamentally team, fundamentally sound team last year.
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Michael Rosenberg
And again, I think that's the part that you saw and everybody got on me. I saw that series back in June and I said, no, see, that's what I didn't want to see is that team from last year come back with those fundamental mistakes, base running mistakes, some of the bad at bats and things that were going on with that team. That's that that again knocked them off the rail. I didn't want to see that from last year and we did. And it sometimes it is as simple as it just doesn't look right now. I think recently it has gotten better. I mean, Volpe certainly has gotten back his confidence and throwing the baseball. I think his fielding's been excellent and I think you're seeing it at the plate. They are being more athletic after some of the trades they made. You see them running the bases. But another thing that does need to finally come to fruition because we know they're a better team when they have this is when Judge and Stanton are in the line at the same time. What can you say about what you've seen from Stanton? While he's had to play some field, he's had to pinch hit because judges back and he can't DH or Stanton can't dh. What have you seen from him at like pros? Pro is like the best way I can describe this. But of late, what he's done, especially last night, what a, what a game saving home run that was after they blew the save.
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Jeff Nelson
He's a guy that can carry you for three, four weeks. Stanton. Ken. And it put him in the field, you know, not now, but he used to be a really good outfielder and he used to be really fast. Now it was probably eight to ten years ago, but he's still a good outfielder. He's not going to make a ton of mistakes out there. He might not get the balls that Judge might be able to get to, but he can play you a solid outfield. You just are holding your breath in some ways that he stays healthy and nothing happens when he does play right field. I don't know if Judge is going to play the outfield the rest of the year. He may be regulated to the designated hitter spot the whole year. And just by saying that, because I don't know what you're going to get out of him as far as an.
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Michael Rosenberg
Arm, would you do that? Would you say, you know what, for the rest of the regular season, now playoffs, we'll see rest of regular season, I cannot put you in the field. I don't want to risk it. Would you do that?
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Jeff Nelson
I probably would. Because if he hasn't played the outfield yet, then some, it's probably a little worse than what we thought, but he can still hit. So hey, you, you got to have this guy in the lineup because he's probably the best player in the league as a, as a former player. When you go out there, you don't know any better as far as, okay, Judge is going to play the outfield and you can't let it go. When you throw the instinct and your, your competitive nature, you're going to let it go. You're going to try to throw people out and that might be the worst case scenario for him if this injury is a little more serious than we thought.
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Michael Rosenberg
You know what I was worried about too, and I think this is why Judge wasn't happy that Boone said even if he does get back out there, he might not be at the, at his best, is that I think teams and if, especially if you see him in the field this series, you know, Alex Core is going to say every time it goes to right field, run, make him throw it, test his arm, see if he can see if he has anything left in it. And I think as a player, you don't want that. I don't want anybody to know a weakness that I have or. Or to. Or to exploit it if I'm out there.
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Jeff Nelson
No, I agree. I agree. You know, I know the Red Sox analysis are going to push the issue. They're a team that they're not great offensive team, but they can run the bases really well. They're very aggressive on the base pass. They have some speedsters in there. So yes, they're going to push the issue. And if judges out in the outfield, then they definitely will. I don't know if he will. I don't know if you risk him making one awkward throw, trying to throw in some throw somebody on either second, third or home and risk maybe losing him the rest of the year. I don't know if they do that.
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Peter Rosenberg
Jeff. Sorry, I did it again. Disrespect. Nelly. Is there any. Is there any world in which Judge not playing the field and just ditching in the playoffs could benefit him? Like we are obviously going into a situation where assuming they make the playoffs, he is going to have so much pressure mounted on him. Alan, we were alluding earlier to the pressure on Lamar Jackson next season. I mean, Aaron Judge heading to this playoffs. People are just expecting him to finally do Aaron Judge things. Is there any world in which not having to think about the field could benefit him?
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Jeff Nelson
I think so. You know, some. Some guys have a hard time adjusting to the DH to be a DH because they're so used to going out on the field and if they're not doing it at the plate, they can make a good play in the field and it kind of erases some of the difficulties that they've had at the plat. Some guys that you're going to dh, they don't know what to do in between at bats because they're used to go on the field. He's going to have to get used to that. I think it can benefit him. The thing of it is, if he's hurt and he can't throw, then you're going to have to put him in as a dh. You can't risk the chances of him getting hurt out there. And you know, even though his legs are fine, he can cover ground. But as far as getting it in, having other teams, whether it's the Red Sox or some of the playoff teams, exploit the fact that he might not have the strong arm out there and he wants to try to show it off, I much rather have him in the lineup as a designated hitter than I would risking anything in right field.
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Michael Rosenberg
Now, let's get to an area of expertise that you certainly have Plenty of experience in it's the bullpen. And what the Yankees did at the trade deadline was certainly shake a lot of things up in that bullpen, including trading out a starter, starter, a closer. And Bednar now has become the closer. Now, last night couldn't lock it down and it was interesting that Boone went to Devin Williams in the 10th to close it down and that even got a little dicey. Is the Yankee bullpen good enough? Yeah, you know those two. Luke Weaver, they do have arms there. But is it good enough to be a team that can get back to a World Series?
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Jeff Nelson
Yeah, I think so. I really like what Brian Cashman did in the bullpen. I obviously didn't work out the first couple days and you're like, oh my goodness, what the heck went on? I knew I would have. The only thing I disagreed with what Boone said is when he made Williams a closer, said, okay, he's still my ninth inning guy. When you had David Bednar, who's a real. I've seen him over, over since he started in the big leagues. He's a really good closer. He's got really good stuff and he's got the mentality to be able to handle that. He's done it for years in Pittsburgh and I knew he'd be able to do it in New York and he should be the 9th inning guy going forward. You know, Williams got the save last night because Bednar didn't. Couldn't lock it down like you mentioned. But I think Bednar is the guy. You have Duvall. I think their bullpen. I like their bullpen over the Red Sox. I, you know, I think they're definitely a strength. I think they might have one of the better bullpens in the American League. The Yankees do. So I'm happy with where they are in the bullpen, the rotation. They may get banged up a little bit. You know, Freed, you know, he's not like he was in the first half. I think in the rotation, even though nobody's hurt and they still have solid guys and who knows what will happen when they get into the playoffs. Anything can happen. But the bullpen really solid. Maybe the Red Sox might.
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Michael Rosenberg
Of an.
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Jeff Nelson
Edge in the rotation.
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Peter Rosenberg
Do you. One of the common conversations we have with listeners, fans of this team is about sort of the heart, the fire and whether or not it's there or not. How much of a thing do you think that is? I mean, this is the Aaron Judge Yankees of the last eight years or so have sort of been a little bit more businesslike and Especially with the, you know, once Gardner moved on, people felt like there's a lack of heart here in the locker room. Is that something you actually sense or is that something more fans think about, not an actual reality?
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Caller Dave
I don't know.
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Jeff Nelson
I think you can look and say, you know, sometimes they lose a sense of urgency. I think, you know, not that they go through the motions, but when they are playing and they're going through a lot of bad times and they're not running the bases well, not playing good defense. Okay, where's the sense of urgency when they were going. When all of a sudden they saw their lead in the top in the AL east, all of a sudden they dropped below the Red Sox and they were like, what a game. In front of that third wild card. You're like, okay, even Paul o' Neill came out when I think they were in Miami, when it got swept by the Marlins. There's just no sense of urgency, you know, so that, yeah, that's a concern. And you look at this four game series, they just won five on the road. So you think that momentum would carry into the Red Sox. Let's see what kind of sense of urgency that they have back in June. I mean, they're one in five against the Red Sox back in June. You could easily say, hey, you know what, there's plenty of baseball left. We can get over the fact that we've lost one out. One, you know, the first five out of six to the Red Sox and they don't play very well in the Eastern Division. So that's a little concern as well. But now that there is. There is no long period left, there's no recovery. Now this is the sense of urgency series. I think the Yankees should show. And then. And maybe this is a statement series.
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Michael Rosenberg
I like that. Exactly. I called it the. This is the first most important series left of the season.
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Peter Rosenberg
Right.
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Michael Rosenberg
Like there's going to be a bunch of them. I mean, there's still others. There's Detroit, there's obviously Houston. But, you know, statement type series. This is certainly one of them that should have been. That should be circled, especially in your own building. So, Nelly, you are a guy that has rings and you're a guy that wore the pinstripes and got rings with the pinstripes. When I say Yankees, Red Sox, I mean, do you still get a little feeling and what, what do you think of. Is there one memory that comes back to you?
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Jeff Nelson
Oh, you know, I think fans in the media really built up the rivalry, but we felt that as players and Boston, you know, I was funny because I was just with the Red Sox. I was just with the Marlins up in Boston over the weekend. And I know I was doing Marlin tv. But all the Yankee Red Sox memories started coming back. I mean, that was probably the first time I've been at Fenway since I think, I don't know, 10, 15 years. And all of a sudden I'm looking and I'm just seeing all the memories that we had. I remember the Pedro and Clemens. When Trot Nixon hit the home run off of Clemens, I think we lost one nothing or two nothing. I mean, just the excitement in both stadiums, you know, it's just. And you look at both teams, I mean, look what the Red Sox had, what kind of team that they had. You look what the Yankees had. And so if you. Wow, you know, you missed that. You know, I missed that as a player.
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Michael Rosenberg
I think the sport misses it. I feel like the rivalry hasn't had the same sizzle since back then.
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Jeff Nelson
That was even in Cleveland. And just to see those teams that they used to have when Albert Bell, Alomar and Tome, I mean, like, oh, my God, yeah, you know, and we beat them. And so, you know, it's funny, you look at these teams that, that we played against, but we had better teams. And it's like, you know, the rivalry or the players that each, you know, I miss those battles.
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Peter Rosenberg
I will say, Alan, that may have been a piece of the argument you left out earlier in terms of the intrigue for tonight is that given the situation for these teams and the record and the fact that they have another three game set down the stretch, maybe this could be the beginning of like actually building back some legitimate juice between these teams. Because even as someone who's a fraud baseball fan, generally Yankees, Red Sox, meaningful baseball is just. Nothing draws you in more. Nelly, thank you for making time for us. We appreciate it, man.
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Michael Rosenberg
Thanks, Nelly.
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Jeff Nelson
My pleasure. Thanks, guys.
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Peter Rosenberg
Take care. Enjoy the weekend. But you know what I mean, Alan?
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Michael Rosenberg
Like, yeah, like if this, let's say.
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Peter Rosenberg
Even if it's a split, like remove, obviously for a Yankee fan like you, Allen, you really want to see them get at least get three or four. But even if it's a split, if it's a war, seeing how close these teams are in the standings and what they're fighting for, that could really make for an intriguing setup for the end of the year. And then if somehow.
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Michael Rosenberg
Well, again, meeting in the. Meeting in the play, like meeting in a wild card route.
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Peter Rosenberg
I mean, first of all, the three game set that they have in September. Right? Yeah. That could be incredible. And then. Yeah. What if they end up finding each other again?
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah. And to be honest, if you really think about it, the Yankees haven't beaten the Red Sox in the post season, correct me if I'm wrong, since Aaron Boone hit the walk off home run in 2003.
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Peter Rosenberg
That is correct. Wow.
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Michael Rosenberg
They haven't met much since then. But still, they, they. It's been a long time since you've had that kind of bragging rights because you know, regular season is a regular season and you can have that kind of bragging rights. But there is something about the beating them.
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Peter Rosenberg
Something.
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Michael Rosenberg
Think about it. Because O4 was such a.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, think about what a seminal moment.
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Michael Rosenberg
04 was for both sides. Because O4 was sort of the delineation of the end of the dynasty. Like no more. Because 09 was in a vacuum. And even though a lot of those guys were still on the team, that's in a vacuum.04 signified the end of that run of 96 to 2003 where they went to six. Was it six World Series, right? Yeah, but it's. But it's six.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's more than that. Obviously. It's the end of the. Them being little brother. I mean, you know, the Red Sox have essentially for. Essentially. And it's less about head to head and more about dominance. They've kind of owned it ever since.
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Michael Rosenberg
They've won four.
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Peter Rosenberg
So it's just.
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Michael Rosenberg
You've won one, they've won four.
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Peter Rosenberg
What a moment this potentially could be if you could get some juice back. And isn't it insane to think we're sitting here in 20, 25 talking about how everything changed in 04. Is it insane to think about. I know I always do this. Anthony, just cover your ears. To think about, Alan, that in that conversation, if we were having an 04, we would have been talking about something going all the way back to 1984.
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Michael Rosenberg
84. Yeah. 83.
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Peter Rosenberg
Isn't that insane? That's how long it's been.
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Michael Rosenberg
Well, it's sad and true, but if I had told you when the. After the Red Sox did what they did in 04, if I said that 20 years from now the Red Sox will have more World Series championships than the Yankees, you'd be like, get the hell out of here.
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Peter Rosenberg
Four times.
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Michael Rosenberg
You never believe it. But that's. That's kind of what that moment was. So if you. It's hard to have a rivalry when it's one sided. That's a real thing. And I do think, you know, for the Yankees. And I love what Nelly said, because it's true. There does need to. You do need to see some tangible emotion in this series. You cannot act like it's just another series.
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Peter Rosenberg
I love that.
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Michael Rosenberg
And it's August, him saying that. It's. It's the point. I was. I've been trying to make it.
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Peter Rosenberg
Is there a chance we'll see it, Alan? Like, is there a chance. Will we get one moment this weekend where we see a chest pounding, you know, at least people bashing their helmets together? Like, can we get a moment like that? Who's that guy?
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Michael Rosenberg
You know, Stanton is somebody that hits a home run and glares at you and you're just. He's imposing, but he doesn't say anything. Judge hits a home run or whatever Judge does, is very stoic. He is Darth Vader. He doesn't.
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Peter Rosenberg
Chisholm could be that guy.
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Michael Rosenberg
No, Jazz has a little bit of it. Caballero has a little bit of it. You know, that kind of.
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Peter Rosenberg
Someone's gotta find it, man.
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Michael Rosenberg
Like. Like, I think. I think there's some ancillary guys that I don't. I don't know who your main characters, you know, Goldschmidt and Bellinger, they, you know, they don't have enough blood in the ground.
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Peter Rosenberg
It does. But honestly, that's how people get blood in the ground.
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Michael Rosenberg
That's a good point.
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Peter Rosenberg
But this. You know what? After this conversation with Nelly, my dear friend Nelly, you've now won the argument. I'm in for tonight.
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Michael Rosenberg
I'm in now. I'm in. My dear friend Nelly, I'm excited. He's really good. He's a terrific broadcaster, by the way. I think he's really good.
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Peter Rosenberg
I would do more with Nelly. I enjoyed that. And by the.
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Michael Rosenberg
What else would you do with no.
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Peter Rosenberg
Sex?
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Michael Rosenberg
Okay. Cheap burger. Cheap burger. Cheap burger. No Coke. Pepsi?
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Peter Rosenberg
No. I would have him again, though. That was me trying to clean it up.
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Michael Rosenberg
You should have went to break.
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Peter Rosenberg
That was me trying to clean it up.
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Michael Rosenberg
When we come back, though, we do have calls. 800-919-3776. But I also want to give you, though we were doing it, the strength of schedule stuff. It just shows you why it is set up for the Yankees not just to obviously make the playoffs. It does feel pretty. They really. If you think about it, I know this is going to sound crazy, but I'll explain why, coming back, they should win the division.
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Caller Dave
Oh, great.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
By the way, I'm wearing my headset. My headset like Bobby Brown in this video. What's the reason, Jacob? Why? Why this? Why is my reason.
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Michael Rosenberg
I just, you know, I mean, is there. Do you ever need a reason to play Bobby Brown? Early 90s, late 80s?
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Peter Rosenberg
What's your. What's your favorite Bobby Brown? So.
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Michael Rosenberg
Good question.
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Peter Rosenberg
I'll go first. I know the answer for me.
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Michael Rosenberg
Oh.
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Peter Rosenberg
Mine with a Bullet. Even though I really did like my prerogative. Mine with a. That's the first one I loved. But Mine with a Bullet is on our own from Ghostbusters 2.
- [27:15]
Michael Rosenberg
Are you joking or are you desirous?
- [27:17]
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, it's my favorite. I absolutely love that song.
- [27:19]
Michael Rosenberg
I actually do like that song.
- [27:21]
Peter Rosenberg
That song rules. It's not like the song Ghostbusters Rules that we lambasted yesterday by Ray Parker Jr. On our owns are really good. Like it's not about. The rap is about Ghostbusters, but the rest of the movies. The rest of the song is just a good song.
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, I agree. I do like the whole thing and.
- [27:38]
Peter Rosenberg
The way it starts. It's awesome. I just love that. Right.
- [27:40]
Michael Rosenberg
Am I wrong to like Good Enough?
- [27:43]
Peter Rosenberg
I love Good Enough.
- [27:44]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay. And Roni is, you know. But rock with you. I guess that's the one I was thinking about, but I was hesitant. It's so classic, man. Don't be Cruel.
- [27:53]
Peter Rosenberg
You don't like.
- [27:54]
Michael Rosenberg
Don't be Cruel? Don't Be Cruel is very good.
- [27:55]
Peter Rosenberg
That's my one.
- [27:56]
Michael Rosenberg
Don't Be Cruel. Very. Yeah.
- [27:57]
Peter Rosenberg
Don't Be Cruel is not. It's. It's up there. It's not my favorite.
- [27:59]
Michael Rosenberg
There's a lot of good. I mean, every little step.
- [28:02]
Peter Rosenberg
So every. The order for me is probably on our own. Every little step. Good enough. Kind of a guilty pleasure.
- [28:12]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, I think Good enough. That's a feel good song.
- [28:16]
Peter Rosenberg
I think a lot. I'm surprised you pulled that one out. That was a vintage Allen.
- [28:19]
Michael Rosenberg
What do you mean?
- [28:20]
Peter Rosenberg
It's not a huge song?
- [28:22]
Michael Rosenberg
It's not a huge song, but it's got. I like. I told you how I am with my ear. If I. I don't care if it's fake popular, if I. I know, but it's a rant.
- [28:30]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm just saying.
- [28:30]
Michael Rosenberg
Catches me. I'm like, yo.
- [28:33]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm just surprised. It was not what I expected.
- [28:35]
Michael Rosenberg
I'm sorry.
- [28:36]
Peter Rosenberg
I know.
- [28:36]
Michael Rosenberg
I'm impressed.
- [28:37]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean. No, it's the opposite.
- [28:38]
Michael Rosenberg
Jesus, it's like MC Light the other day. Listen, you beat him down so many times. I just have. He's broken now. I never. I never trust Peter now because I always. Is he being nice or is he scared to love? I get it.
- [28:51]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm sorry.
- [28:52]
Michael Rosenberg
Because you know a lot more about music, especially this genre, than I do. But I know enough to be dangerous. But I also know enough to be a fraud.
- [29:02]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but you're dangerous. You're in the tournament. You're looking at.
- [29:05]
Michael Rosenberg
You're going.
- [29:05]
Peter Rosenberg
That's an 11 seed. You got to watch out for.
- [29:08]
Michael Rosenberg
That's on the sleeper seed.
- [29:10]
Peter Rosenberg
No, they got a couple big wins on the schedule.
- [29:12]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [29:12]
Peter Rosenberg
You look at those wins, you go, all right, let's talk to the. Let's talk to people, though. We've kept them waiting. They're desperate, as you can tell.
- [29:18]
Michael Rosenberg
Clamoring.
- [29:19]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, if you're. If you're trying to talk to us about anything. 1-800-919377, 6.
- [29:23]
Michael Rosenberg
Before we do, can I plow your.
- [29:24]
Peter Rosenberg
Way onto the phone?
- [29:25]
Michael Rosenberg
Let pay off though what I was oh, you teased us. So Big Nelly talked about the importance of this series and, you know, not just it's the setting up for yourself to finish the season. And he talked about schedules that he was looking at. The Yankees in the American League have the easiest schedule remaining. They and the Astros both have the easiest schedules. They play a ton of bad teams. Yankees play the White Sox, they play the, you know, the Nationals, they play the Twins again. They have a ton of games against the Orioles who aren't very good. So there's a lot of easy games. Houston, same thing. They're, they're, they're playing the Orioles as well, Angels, Rockies, you know, Braves, who have pretty much quit. But what I'm looking at is for the division and when you think about 36 games to go, you're three games back in the lost column for the division behind Toronto. Toronto has the third hardest remaining schedule. Peter they play a lot of good teams, including the Yankees, including the Astros, including the Red Sox. They play the Royals, who aren't easy, the brewers, who are, you know, house on Fire, and the Reds as well. Kansas City, now they have a couple of easy opponents as well. The Rays, they have a seven against the Rays, so that's, they should mow through those. And they also play the Orioles, Marlins, and who are they playing right now this, this weekend? And the Twins. So when you think about strength of schedule, it really does favor the Yankees. And of course, they both play each other and they're considered tough opponents. So they're among the tough opponents for Toronto. The Yankees are among their tough opponents, and Toronto is among the Yankees remaining tough opponents. Astros, Red Sox and Tigers, and then Blue Jays. So that series alone, those three games in September could be the difference for the division. And that means if you think about, if you're three games back in the lost column right now, right. The Yankees do still control their destiny when it comes to the division. And so I think right now the Yankees should still, I haven't checked it, but I'd be interested to see how the odds start to shift about them being the favorites to still win their division.
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Peter Rosenberg
That is an interesting and, and I.
- [31:50]
Michael Rosenberg
Think I've made the case.
- [31:51]
Peter Rosenberg
It's a legitimate case. But again, it's funny now, this weekend.
- [31:55]
Michael Rosenberg
Could change on them.
- [31:56]
Peter Rosenberg
You dumped on them two days ago.
- [31:58]
Michael Rosenberg
But I still don't like the way they play.
- [32:00]
Peter Rosenberg
I get it.
- [32:01]
Michael Rosenberg
But they're still good enough.
- [32:02]
Peter Rosenberg
And I do Think that even though you dumped on those wins, I. I think they still affected you, though. I think you're still feeling a little bit of mojo right now. Like maybe this thing could turn.
- [32:11]
Michael Rosenberg
Yes. And this weekend will tell me, because as I said, and I'm glad Nelly said it, too, if they don't get three out of four now, two, you know, going to and to. Like Michael said, it's still. You're in a good place because it still pushes the Red Sox further away from you, which is important. But I'm not. I'm big on not looking in the rear view. I'm always about looking in the windshield, and I need. Who's in front of me? The Blue Jays. And I can see them again. It's three. Oh, yeah. No, no.
- [32:37]
Peter Rosenberg
Here are the odds for you. Your Al east winner odds. You have the Blue Jays at minus 275.
- [32:43]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay.
- [32:44]
Peter Rosenberg
The Red Sox are plus 1200. The Rays are plus 20,000.
- [32:49]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [32:49]
Peter Rosenberg
And your New York Yankees are sitting at plus 260. So Vegas believes it's in play.
- [32:56]
Michael Rosenberg
Oh, very much in play, in fact. Plus 260.
- [32:59]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Slight dog sprinkle.
- [33:02]
Michael Rosenberg
Would you sprinkle?
- [33:03]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, it sounds like you should. You're. That. You're the one who sounds like you.
- [33:06]
Michael Rosenberg
Want to sprinkle it. I might put a little sprinkle on that.
- [33:09]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, speaking of sprinkling, we have ENN coming up at 6 o'. Clock. Let's. Let's go to the phones.
- [33:14]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay. Who do you want?
- [33:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Rapid fire. You bring the topic. All right.
- [33:19]
Michael Rosenberg
800-93776. Call in now.
- [33:21]
Peter Rosenberg
Let's go to Dave and Queen.
- [33:23]
Michael Rosenberg
All right, Dave. What's up, guys?
- [33:26]
Caller Dave
Good. I could do rapid fire on this topic. Thanks for bringing it up. Howie Spear and Joy Steinbrenner. Appreciate that. That's my wheelhouse. Okay.
- [33:32]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay.
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Caller Dave
Alan. Yeah. You brought up. You nailed it. So. So you nailed it pretty good. This is what really went down. And I have a picture of George Steinbrenner in my apartment. I have a picture of Kenny Anderson in my apartment. John Gotti, George Steinbrenner and Thurman Munson. So that's New York.
- [33:48]
Michael Rosenberg
You talk about New York.
- [33:49]
Peter Rosenberg
Very interesting.
- [33:50]
Michael Rosenberg
Kenny Anderson. Yes.
- [33:52]
Caller Dave
Yeah. Queens all the way. Oh, man, he's a God over here. And later, see if you can name all the new Edition guys, if you can, without looking it up. Okay.
- [34:04]
Michael Rosenberg
And Johnny.
- [34:04]
Caller Dave
All right. With the last and. Yeah, right. With the last names.
- [34:07]
Jeff Nelson
There you go.
- [34:07]
Caller Dave
Okay, so Howie Spiel. Right. He was.
- [34:10]
Michael Rosenberg
Wait, the last. The last names. The last names. We can do that, right? Ronnie. Ronnie Devoe. Ronnie Devoe.
- [34:18]
Peter Rosenberg
Michael Bivens.
- [34:19]
Michael Rosenberg
Michael Bivens.
- [34:20]
Peter Rosenberg
Ricky Bell.
- [34:20]
Michael Rosenberg
Ricky Bell.
- [34:23]
Peter Rosenberg
Johnny. Ronnie.
- [34:27]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [34:27]
Peter Rosenberg
Bobby.
- [34:28]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, Bobby. Bobby Brown. Yeah.
- [34:29]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, Mike.
- [34:31]
Michael Rosenberg
Michael Bivens.
- [34:32]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, we already said Mike.
- [34:33]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [34:33]
Peter Rosenberg
We're good. I'm done.
- [34:34]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah. And Ralph Tresmond.
- [34:37]
Caller Dave
Ralph Tresmith.
- [34:37]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah. They threw in some guys, you know, Johnny and Ralph kind of just in and out. Yeah. Yeah.
- [34:45]
Caller Dave
Definitely not. Thank you. Those guys were great before Bobby Brown became a really bad guy. Like you always say, Pete, bad guy sounds a bad guy.
- [34:52]
Peter Rosenberg
I don't know.
- [34:53]
Michael Rosenberg
I've heard. I like going full bad, not going full bad guy.
- [34:58]
Caller Dave
He's a true. He's a really bad guy. Pete. My opinion. But was a performer, like nobody. He was a really great performance. Very bad guy. I'll take Rob Trevan any day over him as a person.
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Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
- [35:08]
Michael Rosenberg
He's Mr. Sensitivity.
- [35:10]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not gonna. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Dave. Thanks, Dave. David, thank you. Your passion's impeccable. Thank you, buddy.
- [35:18]
Michael Rosenberg
Thank you.
- [35:19]
Peter Rosenberg
Let me say this. I feel about Bobby the way I feel a lot about a lot of people who are drug addicts in the 80s. Like, did bad things. For sure. Had massive problems. Absolutely.
- [35:35]
Michael Rosenberg
Part of the era.
- [35:37]
Peter Rosenberg
Part of the era. Part of the downfall of Whitney Houston. Absolutely. But, yeah, so problems, too. They had problems.
- [35:44]
Michael Rosenberg
So is this similar to, like, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmero and Mark McGuire? It's like, I'm not going to hold it against him. It was the era. It was what. It was what everybody was doing.
- [35:53]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, it's just, you know, I take addiction. I. Super seriously.
- [35:56]
Michael Rosenberg
I would, too.
- [35:57]
Peter Rosenberg
And I think that for Bobby, it was. It's tragic.
- [36:01]
Michael Rosenberg
Caught up in the life. The only one. Like, we've seen those stories happen. Right. Where. Especially when they're. They're young. Super young. When they get big, they get eaten alive, dude.
- [36:12]
Peter Rosenberg
And he was a child star.
- [36:13]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [36:14]
Peter Rosenberg
You know, a lot of times we don't give enough credence to people who are child stars like that. Which, by the way, in mean, it's not super unlike, you know, Doc and Daryl.
- [36:24]
Michael Rosenberg
Yes.
- [36:25]
Peter Rosenberg
Same. Same time.
- [36:26]
Michael Rosenberg
Very real thing.
- [36:27]
Peter Rosenberg
Kids.
- [36:27]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [36:28]
Peter Rosenberg
So much exposure to so much. So early.
- [36:31]
Michael Rosenberg
Too much. Too easy. All that stuff. Yeah. It's just.
- [36:34]
Peter Rosenberg
It's just a lot.
- [36:35]
Michael Rosenberg
But I think what he was trying to ask is if we would have Spira on as a guest. I think he was trying to suggest that we should get him on to tell his side of the story. Like, what happened?
- [36:49]
Peter Rosenberg
What are your thoughts?
- [36:49]
Michael Rosenberg
You gotta think it's Pretty wild. Imagine this. The most famous owner in sports at the time, George Steinbrenner, was a household name, was he not? He was in the light beer commercials with Billy. He had made headlines. He was in New York. There's a. Like, he was pretty famous. How many owners did you know by name in the 80s and 90s, you didn't know owners by name? Not like that.
- [37:17]
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no. For different level.
- [37:18]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah. Not like that. Today we know owners more, but it's different today. So think about. Rather than paying, you were contractually obligated to pay a donation each year to the charity of a player. Rather than do that, you chose to drop 40 grand on a notorious gambler and ask him to dig up some dirt on the player so you would get out of having to pay. It was like $300,000 that he owed back. Back pay in donations. Donations to a foundation. What are you doing?
- [37:53]
Peter Rosenberg
It's a crazy.
- [37:54]
Michael Rosenberg
You don't think that's one of the most bizarre decisions you could make as a human being? How petty do you have to be? I'm not paying it. I'm not paying it. We got to find something wrong with him. I guarantee you there's no foundation. He's shaking. He putting that money in his pocket. Let's find out. Who can we get? Like you think that was a real conversation. Who can we get to find out what he's doing with the money? Because I don't want to give it to him.
- [38:18]
Peter Rosenberg
We're going to take more calls. 1-800-919-3776. Next. Whatever subject you want to get to. I did just cross my mind, though, how crazy it was that I love Dave. We love Dave. That in that same call, he said he has a picture of John Gotti up in his house, but also called Bobby Brown a bad guy. Crazy. That is wild.
- [38:36]
Michael Rosenberg
Again, the Gotti thing. It all depends on where you're from and what impact it had on your life.
- [38:41]
Peter Rosenberg
I suppose you're right, but what kind of impact did Bobby Brown have on your life except great music?
- [38:46]
Michael Rosenberg
Well, he saw that dancing, too. MC Hammer actually credited him to be as good a dancer as he was.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [39:52]
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:01]
Michael Rosenberg
You know, when it comes to movie movies, like theme songs.
- [40:08]
Peter Rosenberg
What's up there?
- [40:10]
Michael Rosenberg
This might get. This might make the playlist.
- [40:12]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, it is for me.
- [40:15]
Michael Rosenberg
This might make the playlist.
- [40:18]
Peter Rosenberg
I don't even know what I'm putting above it.
- [40:20]
Michael Rosenberg
I'll tell you what, I think the song was better than the movie. And how many times have you had that, how many times have you had a movie where this. The theme song was better than the actual movie was?
- [40:34]
Peter Rosenberg
It's a. Oh, now you're.
- [40:35]
Michael Rosenberg
Now hold on.
- [40:36]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm reeling from the first idea of best theme songs from the movie.
- [40:43]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [40:43]
Peter Rosenberg
And then you hit me with another one, which is. Song is better than the movie than the movie.
- [40:50]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [40:51]
Peter Rosenberg
That's a tremendous conversation.
- [40:54]
Michael Rosenberg
Could you argue that Purple Rain is a song is better than Purple Rain is a movie?
- [40:58]
Peter Rosenberg
I.
- [40:59]
Michael Rosenberg
Come on.
- [40:59]
Peter Rosenberg
No, I wouldn't.
- [41:00]
Michael Rosenberg
If you really strip it down, it's not like the best storyline.
- [41:05]
Peter Rosenberg
No, it's a stupid movie, but very rage. But it's a great movie. But it's stupid.
- [41:10]
Michael Rosenberg
It's. It's entertaining. It's interesting.
- [41:12]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. But you have to like, think about it now. It's changed now because like, the context of it looking back at it of like this genius who at that age was somehow scored that movie and was allowed to make this weird. Weird with major theatrical release. Right. Like, try to think of someone, an artist who had only been really hot for like four or five years, you know, because really at that point, Prince, Prince's debut albums, only four years before that and the movie comes out and gets a theatrical release.
- [41:48]
Michael Rosenberg
Oh, I get it.
- [41:49]
Peter Rosenberg
It's an interesting thing. But you know, it's not like a Godfather.
- [41:52]
Michael Rosenberg
That's a bad example. But there's, there's, there are others that the movie was not nearly as good as the Actual theme, by the way.
- [41:59]
Peter Rosenberg
That wasn't a horrible one to throw out. I'm talking through it. Okay, let me think. What else. Hold on. The movie is.
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, just think of movie themes and then think of songs that.
- [42:09]
Peter Rosenberg
All right, I got one for you out of the gate.
- [42:10]
Michael Rosenberg
Let's do see. Let's see how you go.
- [42:12]
Peter Rosenberg
And yes, I know the song is cheesy, but still.
- [42:14]
Michael Rosenberg
What?
- [42:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Meet Me Halfway by Kenny Loggins is better than over the Top.
- [42:20]
Michael Rosenberg
Was that the theme of the. Was that the theme song or was it just on the soundtrack?
- [42:23]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, it's the song from the movie.
- [42:25]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay.
- [42:26]
Peter Rosenberg
I don't.
- [42:26]
Michael Rosenberg
Oh, I'm not gonna argue with you.
- [42:28]
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think it doesn't have over the top in the title. But Meet Me Halfway is.
- [42:33]
Michael Rosenberg
That's fair. Would. How about. How about. We talked about this song the other day. Arthur's Theme in New York City.
- [42:43]
Peter Rosenberg
And by the way, Arthur's Theme is from Arthur to. Right.
- [42:46]
Michael Rosenberg
No, Arthur. The Arthur.
- [42:48]
Peter Rosenberg
It is from original Arthur.
- [42:49]
Michael Rosenberg
The original. Which. Which, I mean, I've watched it. It's. It's all right. Like, it's not like, oh, my God, you got to see this movie.
- [42:59]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, that. That sounds like a winner. That sounds like a winner for you. I mean, Arthur was. People enjoyed it, but it's not considered a great.
- [43:05]
Michael Rosenberg
No. And the song was way better. Like, the song is, like, still stand the test of time. It's an all time great song. I don't know, maybe this is another list we could do.
- [43:15]
Peter Rosenberg
That's what. I'm enjoying this.
- [43:17]
Michael Rosenberg
Right? Top five songs. Top five movie theme songs that were better than the actual movie, by the way, though.
- [43:23]
Peter Rosenberg
I'm just warning you right now.
- [43:24]
Michael Rosenberg
What?
- [43:25]
Peter Rosenberg
We play this game with Don, there's a chance I won't know what any of the songs or movies are. Well, he's gonna yell at me.
- [43:33]
Michael Rosenberg
And famous movies.
- [43:34]
Peter Rosenberg
He's gonna yell when I don't know.
- [43:36]
Michael Rosenberg
Well, but the problem is this. It can't be just a song that you like. It has to be a song that did well. Like the movie didn't do as well as the song did. How about that?
- [43:44]
Peter Rosenberg
The movie didn't. Well, that. That's gonna be tough one to get into. Right? What about. What do you got now? Here's a really hard one. And this isn't about the movie being bad, because the movie is the greatest movie ever made.
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Michael Rosenberg
Okay, but.
- [43:57]
Peter Rosenberg
But what's the more official theme song for Back to the Future? Power of Love or Back in Time?
- [44:08]
Michael Rosenberg
Back in Time wasn't Back in Time. Like the Back in Time about the movie, opening credits. It's usually the beginning when skateboard. No, it's playing when he's on the skateboard.
- [44:20]
Peter Rosenberg
Because the power of Love. Power of Love is. Power of Love is playing early and Back in Time plays shortly thereafter.
- [44:27]
Michael Rosenberg
Okay, well, then I'm not a big Huey Lewis fan. Oh, boy. Yeah, I know. It's one of my flaws. Never really?
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Peter Rosenberg
Not even Power of Love?
- [44:40]
Michael Rosenberg
Nah. No.
- [44:42]
Peter Rosenberg
You don't like Power of Love?
- [44:44]
Michael Rosenberg
Just.
- [44:44]
Peter Rosenberg
It's in my jukebox.
- [44:46]
Michael Rosenberg
Of course it is.
- [44:47]
Peter Rosenberg
So is Back in Time.
- [44:48]
Michael Rosenberg
They're both in my jukebox. No, these are your. I'm. That's why I was very hesitant to reveal.
- [44:53]
Peter Rosenberg
Have you ever seen the video of the making of We Are the World?
- [44:57]
Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, I watched that documentary. It's unreal when Huey starts to sing.
- [45:01]
Peter Rosenberg
And Michael Jackson side eyes him. Like, what the hell is this dude doing?
- [45:04]
Michael Rosenberg
No, but Huey. Think about how Huey had to step in for who? Remember they asked him. He was stepping in for somebody famous who didn't show. Didn't show up.
- [45:13]
Peter Rosenberg
Not. It was a prince.
- [45:14]
Michael Rosenberg
It might have been Princess, but I thought he killed it. I thought he knocked it out of the park.
- [45:19]
Peter Rosenberg
No, he ends up doing good. But his voice isn't a traditional.
- [45:23]
Michael Rosenberg
No, you don't expect voice you're not expecting.
- [45:25]
Peter Rosenberg
So there's this part, and it may not have been in the most recent doc. It may just be a clip that moves around social media where they're going over it. And when it gets to Huey's part, he's struggling. Practice it. Yeah, he's. His voice is just not a. It's not a great voice.
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Michael Rosenberg
That's a fascinating doc, by the way. I did not know they were there till 6am like, all night, literally. Lionel Richie all night long, literally. Like, he could have wrote that song about that night. That's a tremendous. And then, by the way, who was it out? I want to say the. Not Al Jarou. Who was it that was like hammered the whole time? And he ended up, like, using, like, his part, but, like, all his takes. You could tell he was just inebriate. I forget who it was, but it was like. It was almost comical.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's. It's. If you haven't watched that, it's really fascinating.
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, I agree. Fascinating. You know what else is fascinating?
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Peter Rosenberg
I'm guessing you're going to say the.
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Michael Rosenberg
Mets were winning two. Nothing.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no. Don't you do it. Don't do it.
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Michael Rosenberg
And then it was two to one. And now they're losing four three in the bottom of the sixth in Washington. Could you imagine?
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Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
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Michael Rosenberg
How could this be happening?
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Peter Rosenberg
Can I imagine?
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Michael Rosenberg
Sean Mania struggled to get through the fifth inning and it wasn't anything there, you know, not like home runs or anything. It wasn't the long ball. It's just you imagine. Of course you can imagine dinks and dunks and so now the Mets are trailing.
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Peter Rosenberg
I, maybe by the way, Al Jaro was on the song. So it may have been, I think.
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah, I remember the doc and I remember laughing because it's like somebody just kept getting bottles of wine. They were getting like chicken, like fried chicken delivery. They were all getting like late night deliveries. I love the fact that Kenny Rogers was sitting there just chowing down on chicken. Like it was just all the different images of. Of what a. What a confluence of personalities and styles and cultures in one room. Cyndi Lauper, absolutely killing it when she starts to sing. But while she's talking, everybody's looking at her horrified, like, oh my God, what is that accent?
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, she's brand new at the time.
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Michael Rosenberg
Right. And then she.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, Madonna. They didn't get Madonna. They got Cindy.
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Michael Rosenberg
She didn't go. But I thought Cindy. Her voice was great. But when she spoke, you could just see people looking like, like, what is that?
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Peter Rosenberg
And how crazy is it that Latoya Jackson is on the song?
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Michael Rosenberg
All the Jacksons are. Did you notice that?
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Peter Rosenberg
No, Janet.
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Michael Rosenberg
Oh, wait, no, Janet wasn't.
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Peter Rosenberg
She's a kid.
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Michael Rosenberg
Yeah. Couldn't put her on there.
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Peter Rosenberg
I mean, she's probably 15. Something like that.
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Michael Rosenberg
That was though. But that is very, very fast. That was one of the several documentaries that you guys have told me I needed to see that. I did take the time during my time off to. I did my homework in the meantime as the Yankees play the Red Sox tonight. This from Aaron Boone, because we're all wondering and even Nelly kind of. We talked about it. Will Aaron Judge be in the outfield this weekend? I don't know.
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Jeff Nelson
Nothing new.
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Michael Rosenberg
Continuing to progress and hopefully we get.
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Jeff Nelson
To a point there soon. But I don't know when that is.
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Michael Rosenberg
Now he's being real careful, right? I don't know. Ask him.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Michael Rosenberg
Who?
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Peter Rosenberg
Aaron? No, he's his own man.
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Michael Rosenberg
Not sure. Up to him. Whatever he wants. So Stanton is in right field tonight. We'll see. It's hard to imagine Stanton's going to be in right field for every game of the four game set. But can you get three out of him? Maybe Caballero for one like that's that's the thing to watch. But you heard Nelly say it. He wouldn't play judge in the field at all for the rest of the season. Why? Why tempt fate? Why test the arm? And he said players, they go out there, they're just going to try to go 100, and the last thing you want to do is have him all of a sudden grab that elbow. So I'm curious to see how this goes down. But Boone will not say whether or not he will or will not play this weekend. The sense is he probably.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to know how the.
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Michael Rosenberg
Sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good.
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Don Hahn
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