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Alan Hahn
I got it. Okay, good. Rob.
Caller
What's going on, guys? I just want to know how familiar are you both with the Jonas Brothers current music?
Alan Hahn
Not very.
Peter Rosenberg
No.
Caller
All right, so they. My girlfriend's a very big fan. She went to the concert at MetLife that they sold out. And she told me that a specific song called no Time to Talk, they rocked it and I listened to it and it's. I think it's called an interpolation of Bee Gees Staying Alive. And I think it checks all the boxes to a summer song. Catchy.
Alan Hahn
Jake.
Caller
You honestly could dance to it.
Alan Hahn
Jake's on it.
Peter Rosenberg
What's the name of it?
Caller
No Time to Talk.
Peter Rosenberg
No Time to Talk. It's an interpolation of the. Of Staying Alive by the Jonas Brothers. It sounds horrifying, but I. I wanna. I wanna see it sounds.
Caller
No, I actually like.
Alan Hahn
I like the Jonas. They're good, dude. Yeah.
Caller
The current Jonas Brothers. I used to hate on them.
Alan Hahn
No, they're good.
Peter Rosenberg
They're talented.
Alan Hahn
Let's get a taste. Let's get a taste. Jake's got some.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, here we go.
Alan Hahn
I don't hate this so far.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not hating.
Alan Hahn
I Don't hate this. Not bad at all. It's got the right pop sound. It feels like summer. You are the music expert. Yay.
Peter Rosenberg
Or next it's it. I'm not mad at this as a pop song at all. The question just is like, was it actually a big song this summer?
Alan Hahn
Well, that's. Yeah, that's the thing.
Caller
No, it wasn't. That's the thing.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. All right.
Peter Rosenberg
So you're putting us on to a good tune.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that's not.
Peter Rosenberg
But it wasn't the song of the summer because we don't know it.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. All right. So that's a good effort. That's a good effort. See, people are. Want to offer them, but you and I both agree. What qualifies a song of the summer is the amount of plays it gets. Downloads it gets. Like if you put on pop radio, it's that in the cycle of. It has to be on every hour.
Peter Rosenberg
Right?
Alan Hahn
Right. Every hour it has to be played. That's what makes it a song in the summer. So that it can't qualify if it doesn't have enough plays.
Peter Rosenberg
What about Rod?
Alan Hahn
See Rod. What do you think? Rod, New Jersey.
Caller
Hey, guys, first time caller. First congratulations to Don on the Devil's Gate. But I called about the song of the summer. Even though Change of Lips gets daily played on the highway by Bad Bunny, that's the one that feels the most like. But isn't that I remember from this summer?
Alan Hahn
That's not from this.
Caller
I mean, he says fourth of July in it. That's how it kicks off.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, but you know what? No, was, you know what.
Alan Hahn
When Was it released?
Peter Rosenberg
January 5, 2025. It's actually not a bad call.
Alan Hahn
I mean it could be a song in the summer. If it's released and now it just becomes a hit by spring, then it can be a summer.
Peter Rosenberg
That's because, you know, radio takes a long time.
Alan Hahn
It does.
Peter Rosenberg
That's actually not bad enough. And yeah, thank you, Peter.
Caller
I have some bad advice for you.
Peter Rosenberg
What's that?
Caller
So I. I have a five year old daughter, all right? And you're between. Between the car seat into the car and taking it and putting it into the clicking and all this stuff and picking her up. Take care of your back, man. Take care of your back. Because you're gonna do all these random.
Alan Hahn
Things in the moment, right?
Caller
Especially when things are happening quick. It's. It's the thing that nobody. They tell you all. All the other stuff.
Alan Hahn
They don't.
Caller
As the dad. Because my mom's, you know, mom's just gonna. Whatever. Nobody expects mom's mom to bend over for anything. You're gonna have to do all of it. And you're not gonna think about it in the moment because your daughter and you waited this long to have a daughter, but you forget you waited this long to have a daughter.
Peter Rosenberg
Yep. That's. That is, you know, yesterday.
Alan Hahn
Sound advice, Rod.
Peter Rosenberg
I had a lower back pain that just hit me out of nowhere. And you know, listen, now Maya's up to like £16 or whatever.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
So, like, as you get there, as she gets heavier and heavier.
Alan Hahn
No. The more you pick her up, it's like, like, you know, a 15 pound kettlebell like you do. You throw your back at it if you're not ready for it. So you need to incorporate some yoga to keep the hamstrings loose.
Peter Rosenberg
Yep.
Alan Hahn
And core work so that when you do some lifting, you're not lifting with your back, you're lifting with legs and core.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a great point. And right now, my legs, by the.
Alan Hahn
Way, pretty weak meniscus thing. Yeah. You definitely need to. Did you hear about the. They. They've discovered a way to regenerate meniscus.
Peter Rosenberg
No. Really?
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Without.
Alan Hahn
Without surgery. Yeah. This is coming. It's coming soon. Go ahead, Google it. I'm telling you, I saw it the other day. I'm like, I'm getting this. Apparently it just like cartilage will. I don't know if it's just padding, whatever it is, but in your knee, if you've lost cartilage or meniscus, whatever it is, like any type of that cushioning, it can be regenerated or just generated in your knee and recreate the.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, because in my. My first conversation at hss, they were like, yeah, well, if you're. If your meniscus is damaged in most circumstances, we recommend not bothering with anything because there's no point.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
But if you're saying we could regenerate, because I feel like I need that meniscus. Everybody does on the old needs.
Alan Hahn
Well, we all do. Those who are stuck on the turnpike, by the way, at 16W, there were the western spur. There was a truck accident.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, man.
Alan Hahn
If you're wondering if maybe you're starting to move a little bit. They did. They are clearing the truck and it does seem like the lanes are starting to open again. It has been a disaster today. Those.
Peter Rosenberg
They've been dead stopped there.
Alan Hahn
Yes. So hopefully, you know, those have been stuck that you should be moving soon.
Peter Rosenberg
I hope everything's all right with that. Let's. Let's. You want to hear. Let's hear from Mark in New Jersey.
Alan Hahn
Okay, let's go to Mark.
Peter Rosenberg
We got Mark.
Caller
Hey, guys, can you hear me?
Alan Hahn
Yes. Yeah.
Caller
Okay, cool. Yeah, it's much like Game of Thrones. If you have to be. If you have to say you're the king, not the king. Right.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Caller
Like, if you have to be told what the song the summer is, there is no song.
Alan Hahn
That's what I agree.
Caller
Right.
Alan Hahn
I don't think we have.
Caller
So the way I see it is there's an artist of the summer. All right. And if Don. This. The average sound was here. He backed me up from July 5, Birmingham, England, back back to the beginning concert to his subsequent death 17 days later. This was the summer of the Prince of darkness, Mr. Ozzy. Oscar.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't hate it.
Caller
How do you feel about that?
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, it's tough to give it to.
Alan Hahn
A, you know, not really feeling summer when I hear Ozzy, but I get it.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. And it's a. It's an old man who sadly passed away this summer. So it's, like, a little bit dark for.
Alan Hahn
Well, the Prince of Dark. It does fit.
Peter Rosenberg
But. But he really did. I mean.
Alan Hahn
I mean, Ozzy and, like, think about it. Ozzy in, like, you know, the late October. It's dark early. It's got that sinister Halloween vibe. Yeah. Yeah. I could. I could. I could. I can get with that summer.
Caller
It's on his take for me when he gets back.
Alan Hahn
I definitely let. We'll definitely let him know. Mark. Thank you.
Peter Rosenberg
That's not bad.
Alan Hahn
Mike in Orlando seems to agree with you on a take ahead. Mike.
Peter Rosenberg
Ohtown.
Alan Hahn
Here we go.
Caller
Hey, guys. How are you?
Alan Hahn
Good.
Caller
Yeah, Just super quick. I think Peter nailed it. I think it's the Bieber album. I just think maybe we don't have a song in the summer. Maybe we're leaning more towards album of the summer. I think that's probably a positive trend for music that we don't have just this one catchy song. We just have people that are producing albums that are really strong. So that's. That's my thought.
Alan Hahn
Okay. I think it's all an acquired taste, but I do believe Song of the Summer is a song that, like, everybody knows it, your parents know it. Like, everybody hears it. So, you know, everybody has the thing that they like. So, you know Morgan Wilde, like. Oh, I just like his music. Okay, great. That's your song. But it doesn't make it the song of the summer just because you like it.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, that's that's the thing is that.
Alan Hahn
Like, again, I don't levitate by dua lipo. Like, everybody knew that song in 21. Like, everybody knew that song.
Peter Rosenberg
I like. I really like the Justin album.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
But it is a more niche. Yeah, just an album. It's. It's. It doesn't seem like it's hitting for everyone. It's hitting Bieber fans. Do you know UConn? Do you? Don't even know UConn, do you?
Alan Hahn
Probably not give a taste of you unless I heard it.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, that's how it works.
Alan Hahn
Well, no, I'm saying if I heard it, then I. Oh, yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Let's see what Chris in New Jersey has to say.
Alan Hahn
Okay, me second. There you go, Chris.
Caller
What's up, guys? How you doing?
Alan Hahn
Good.
Caller
Huge fans.
Peter Rosenberg
Thanks, man.
Alan Hahn
Thank you.
Caller
Look, I get my daughter, My wife's call the time. My daughter, she's seven years old. All I ever hear when I get in the car is Pink Pony Club. I don't even know who sings it. Every time I get in a car, we're going somewhere on the weekend, it's Pink Point.
Peter Rosenberg
It's all.
Alan Hahn
But it doesn't. Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's a. That's a. First of all, Ken, I. I think we can all. We all have daughters. We can all agree the women do decide the song of the summer, usually.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes.
Alan Hahn
The women do like, because the girls are into it. Then the guys hear it enough to. That you'll. You're like, oh, I hate that song. And then by the end of the summer, you're singing it, too. That was me and Taylor Swift two summers ago. Like, the beginning. So I'm like, enough with Taylor. And then by the end of the summer, I'm singing, like, everybody. I'm singing every Taylor Swift song, but they get stuck in your head.
Peter Rosenberg
Chapel Roan is like. It's like a year old.
Alan Hahn
That's. Yeah. That's not this song. Didn't she perform that at the Grammys?
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, yeah.
Alan Hahn
Yeah. So, you know, it is older, but it doesn't. I mean, it's. It's definitely one.
Peter Rosenberg
You're at the Grammys. Because it had already been a smash.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
I think it's been.
Alan Hahn
The album came out in 2021, guys. Yeah, well, that. We. We know that it took her a minute.
Caller
Yeah. Now it's like they're coming back with it now.
Alan Hahn
It's crazy.
Caller
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
No, that's good, Chris. That's. And again, Chris brought up.
Peter Rosenberg
Pony Club was released through Atlantic Records on April 3rd, 2020. That. That is crazy.
Alan Hahn
I didn't even realize that. Did not realize that.
Peter Rosenberg
I wonder when the video dropped on YouTube. Let me check that out.
Alan Hahn
All right. While you're doing that, we're going to get obviously we'll keep the calls rolling in. 800 now we're 93776. We talk giants. Chris can he said that he also believes Jackson Dart is showing you enough to believe that this is the future. He also thinks that front seven for the Giants are going to be good. They're getting healthy by the way, and through Andrew Thomas back in practice. That's a good sign. Malik Neighbors back as well. And Peter, your, your commander is going to face these Giants in week one in a couple of weeks. And you know, the Giants might not be a team that people are going to call a playoff team, but they are a team, unlike last year, that when you play them, I think you're going to feel it. And for the. And I think unlike last year, if you're a Giants fan, there's reason that your apathy is washed away. And now you got some hope. Now you got some curiosity. And I think that's very important. Now on the flip side, on the Jet side of things, I you, you saw Abdul Carter and how he was pancake twice on one play in that game and the jets put that, the video out there and he responded on social media and he basically said it's the only highlight they're going to have this season. And he made it. You know, he made fun of himself a little bit too because he knows he ate it. But the fact that he would say it's going to be their only highlight that like sometimes when players say that, he probably looks at them like that team is trash. He doesn't think they're that good. I do worry about the jets this year and how they might like there might be a little bit of all right, Rogers is gone and you know, there's, there's no more. Like, like you have a new regime and Justin Fields gives you a little bit of hope maybe and you got this running game. I don't think the jets are going to be a very exciting team, not necessarily when it comes to wins and losses. Like, I don't think they're going to win a lot of games. But Justin Fields even admits that their offense might be very boring. But he said that could be a good thing.
Justin Fields
I mean, yeah, we're fine with taking eight yard completions every play, if I'm being honest with you. Of course you want explosives but like I said Saturday, we're not going to, you know, force the ball downfield if they want to, you know, get depth on the second level. You know, we're fine with taking the 18 yard completion and taking time off the clock and just driving down the field and having 10, 15 play drives, you know, that gets the defense tired and you know, it might not be as exciting on the offensive, you know, side of the ball for the fans, but like I said, it's efficient ball. It's also getting the defense tired and just driving down the field like that.
Alan Hahn
Well, that's the one thing you can do too. And if you're limiting Justin Fields throwing the football, that limit your turnovers and he can run. We know this. They've got a stable of athletes in that running back room and we know Breece hall, you know, Braylon Allen, like they've got the ability to play an old school ground and pound kind of offense which once again it's not sexy, it's not exciting and it can be frustrating against teams that are good against the run, especially if you play the run and dare Justin Fields to throw or make him throw. And Garrett Wilson's really your only true, true offensive weapon when it comes to catching the, catching the football and they'll, they'll double team and beat him up. So like the reality of the jets season could be, oh boy, just this is going to be a bit of a grind. You know, I think there's a lot more, I'm not going to say optimist, that's a wrong word to use. But I think between the two teams, I believe the Giants will have a lot more intrigue than the jets will. Is that fair to say?
Peter Rosenberg
I think so. Unless like watchability again, unless there's bizarre, some bizarro, you know, Justin Fields resurgence that nobody could have anticipated.
Alan Hahn
Well, we'd have to seen something already. I don't know if we've seen it. It does sound like, let's say Aaron Glenn talking about his running backs. Like it does sound like they're going to be a ball controlled team that is just going to utilize their strengths, which is run the ball. Their offensive line is better. This is a, this is an offensive line that Joe Douglas built mostly and they're coming of age, they've got some talent there and so it could be a good line with the ability to run and you'll want to just like be a possession kind of team maybe, I don't know. Listen, Aaron Glenn on what he's got in the backfield it's crazy.
Aaron Glenn
The grown man's £240. That's the youngest guy in the league. And I think he's shown exactly who he can be when it comes to the running game. I can't just say off top of my head, like, how many yards he's averaged per play. But, I mean, I think it's up there for the most part. So, listen, we have, like, three good running backs, and I keep saying that. And listen, they all have different skill sets that we. To utilize, and that does not mean I'm trading Bree.
Caller
Okay.
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Aaron Glenn
I just like having three good guys, you know? Hell, I wish I had more.
Alan Hahn
But we. But we don't.
Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
Alan Hahn
Imagine being the fourth.
Peter Rosenberg
Where is Don?
Alan Hahn
Imagine being the fourth guy. Like, what do you mean? You don't. But, yeah, that. That's. That's the. That's the group laugh. Now, honestly, a lot of times I've been in these situations where you've. You're in the scrum, you're holding a notepad, you're holding your recorder. Now, that's old, right? Back in the day. And, you know, you're like the coach, the gm, whoever it is, says something that's kind of funny. The louder laughs usually come from the PR guy, the staff people.
Peter Rosenberg
It makes a lot of sense.
Alan Hahn
They're the ones that are around, and you'll get the. And they all. It's almost like they want the. The writers to know, oh, that's a joke. He's just kidding. You know what I mean? Like, as if we didn't know that.
Peter Rosenberg
Do you want to hear some more, Don Fake lofts instead?
Alan Hahn
Well, they're very. They're very good.
Peter Rosenberg
Some of the best. Go ahead.
Alan Hahn
Oh, anyways, don't worry about it. That was tough. Yeah, it does, but it does go on. I've been in these places. The most you. The most. That one was pretty good. The most you do as a reporter is smile. Well, you'll do, like, the whole, like. Yeah, like, you'll do that. Like. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that was good. Now, there's been a couple. Like, I covered a guy named Mike Milbury who was the general manager of the Islanders during, like, some of the most bizarre years a sports franchise has ever had, including one where they had a guy by the team and he had no money. There's a 30 for 30 on it. And he had. He was comic relief a lot of times because he was. He's very funny. Like, very witty guy. Biting wit. And so there were times where it was Just so pathetic and so sad. And then he would make a joke and you're just standing there like it actually was really funny. There are times you do actually laugh because the guy's funny, but there are those, you know. But he. With Aaron Glenn did that, where it's just. You just go, yeah, okay, but everybody else that's on the staff laughs louder because they want everybody to know it was a joke.
Peter Rosenberg
Now, do you want to. Speaking of laughing and think it's a joke.
Alan Hahn
Well, I want to play. I want to quickly play where they play with you. I got three.
Peter Rosenberg
Water scares me.
Alan Hahn
You want to play the game?
Peter Rosenberg
Sure.
Alan Hahn
So where they play? You ready?
Peter Rosenberg
All right.
Alan Hahn
Utah. Utah football. Where they play?
Peter Rosenberg
Utah football. Utah football. These so. So, you know.
Alan Hahn
Come on.
Peter Rosenberg
Mountain West.
Alan Hahn
Big 12. All right. I'll give you two easy ones. Ready? Where they play? Stanford.
Peter Rosenberg
Pac 12.
Alan Hahn
That doesn't exist.
Peter Rosenberg
Pac 10.
Alan Hahn
That doesn't exist either.
Peter Rosenberg
Pack 11. I know.
Alan Hahn
They're a weird man.
Peter Rosenberg
They moved. They moved somewhere. Insane.
Alan Hahn
Insane. Yes. You're on the right track now. Think about it. They are where? Located where?
Peter Rosenberg
In the West.
Alan Hahn
West. Where? California. West Coast. Right. So where do you think they play? What? Comp.
Peter Rosenberg
Acc.
Alan Hahn
There it is. Okay.
Caller
All right. All right.
Alan Hahn
Funny enough, by the way, fun fact, because now, this year, it is. Pac is back. But it's packed two. Oh, that's Washington State. Oregon State. Two more will be added in the coming years. There's only two right now. Who's going to be in the conference championship game? I don't know. It'll be amazing to see me. All right, last one for you, Peter. Where they play? Usc.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, it's not the Pack.
Alan Hahn
Well, we know it's not the Pack Two.
Peter Rosenberg
It's not the Pack, too. I know this. Big Ten.
Alan Hahn
Nice. Nailed it.
Peter Rosenberg
It's insane. Look at you.
Alan Hahn
Two for three.
Peter Rosenberg
What a joke that is.
Alan Hahn
You're better. You're better than Charles Barkley. I want to go.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, it's insane. That's a joke.
Alan Hahn
Insane. How about we. Insane is the fact we've gotten this far and we really haven't talked baseball. We have the Metz and Yankees general soreness. Yeah. Metz and Yankees played tonight.
Caller
You know what?
Alan Hahn
I don't know. So I think we should dabble in a little bit of baseball. What do you think?
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, I'll do whatever you want.
Alan Hahn
Well, there's a lot of discussion here on what's coming up with the Yankees, the Aaron Judge situation that Aaron Boone updated everybody. What I feel like was I thought we knew this already or at least we were expecting to hear this, right? But you could tell me if you think this is worthy of big headline. Wow, this is shocking. I don't think it's shocking what Boone said today, but you're going to tell me if you think it is.
Peter Rosenberg
All right.
Alan Hahn
All right. So Boone said something today that some people are, are accepting as. Wow, that's, that's big news. And I'm saying I kind of thought we all assumed this. So we'll get to that. We have the Mets and all their misery. They have an injury now. More injury concerns for the Mets as they play coming up at 6:05 right here in 880. So let's just do a little baseball before we call it a day.
Peter Rosenberg
I love what you're doing and I respect you and I appreciate you.
Alan Hahn
As.
Peter Rosenberg
Much as we say it out loud, Don. Oh boy. More of this hijinks next year on ESPN New York.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just.
Don Hahn
Said Catch the show on demand.
Alan Hahn
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Don Hahn
Whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
Caller
Oh, yeah, by.
Peter Rosenberg
Little.
Alan Hahn
He was really good in Happy Gilmore too.
Peter Rosenberg
I thought so, too.
Alan Hahn
Really good.
Peter Rosenberg
I. I laugh. He made me laugh a few times. Not to mention, I went to his concert in Puerto Rico.
Alan Hahn
Oh, well, good Lord, I imagine. Yeah, exactly.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I didn't hang out with him.
Alan Hahn
No. But still, I got news.
Peter Rosenberg
I got news for you about the sights and sounds of that concert.
Alan Hahn
Sights alone.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, my God.
Alan Hahn
Don't have to have any sound, just sights.
Peter Rosenberg
By the way, I could have. They could have muted the concert.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
It would have been a great.
Alan Hahn
Unreal. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Like unbelievable. I don't know. I don't understand.
Alan Hahn
It's funny.
Peter Rosenberg
Am I missing something?
Alan Hahn
No, it's just we're proud of you.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't even know what I did. But anyways, you know what you did. Welcome back to the program. There is an Eric Church coming to town as well.
Alan Hahn
Of course there is.
Peter Rosenberg
We do country and western. Eric Church of the Barclays Center. On September 20, ESPN New York has your chance to score tickets on the ESPN New York app and ESPNNewYork.com just find the contest tile. Submit your entry tickets on Sale now@ericchurch.com for more information. Now we're. We are back to the baseball Baze bowl tonight. Mets in action against the Nationals in desperation of keeping something going after getting two or three from the Mariners over the weekend and the New York Yankees. Allen, have a couple of games over the next couple of days that you frankly don't care about.
Alan Hahn
I don't care about. Well, what I only care about is like, okay, you're supposed to beat the Rays. Look, last night they didn't play, but somehow they gained in the standings.
Peter Rosenberg
They did.
Alan Hahn
Now it's right there for them. Five solid games out of first, which is plenty of time if you want to make a move. Red Sox are in a little bit of a tailspin and you're going to see them in a couple of days. And I'm, I am jacked up for this series. Four games in the boogie down where you have to now go, that's, that's the scene of the crime. Friday the 13th in June where it all turned. So, you know, we'll get to it when we get closer Thursday we can really dive deep into it, like I know you love to do. And we'll discuss, like, just how important. This is the most important series of August, and it's the only important series left in this month. Before September begins with a couple of bangers and then it goes out like a lamb. I mean, you're playing it's God awful teams, White Sox and all that crap, like nobody that's any good. You should be wiping the floor up and you should be, you should easily get in the playoffs and the division is still very much there because you're playing bad teams. So the only thing that matters is seeing this is first of two times you're going to see the Red Sox before it's over with. And this is in your ballpark and they have already beaten you five out of six. Like I, you got to show me for once, show me a pulse. But before even we can get to that point, all right, you still have to get these two games in Tampa and keep the ball rolling in the care.
Peter Rosenberg
Now tell me this, do you care if they lose both?
Alan Hahn
Absolutely. All right. What I mean by that. Oh, I'm going to walk. I'm watching carefully. What I mean by I don't care is like what happens is, you know how they, they just, you know, they took three in St. Louis, they took two out of three against, you know, the Twins. And it's supposed to feel like, well, the worms turning. No, like I am putting no emphasis on these games, just like I am putting no emphasis on these two games in Tampa. Unless they lose. Then of course, you know, we're going to ring the alarm again. But this series, this weekend, I'm like, okay, like you got to have momentum going into it and then you've got to have a little swagger. But the problem that I continue to see involves the fact that the guy that literally swings the biggest stick. Excuse me. Yeah. Aaron Judge. And while it's good that he's back in the lineup, what Aaron Boone said today in a radio interview, a lot of people are reacting to like it's a big deal, like Stan's going to play in right field now. Remember he took a couple of, couple of days off from playing in the field. Didn't even hit was available. But they called it general soreness, which I know you love that term.
Peter Rosenberg
My favorite general.
Alan Hahn
Well, we salute that general. You know, there's General Washington. You know, I mean there's, there's, there's of course the General Patton.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, the great General so.
Alan Hahn
Oh, well, yeah, there's nothing better than General so.
Peter Rosenberg
But one of the true great generals we've ever known.
Alan Hahn
But general soreness, like that's, he's the common man. Everybody knows general soreness too well sometimes too often Anyways, Boone said of Judge that it's. The quote was, I don't think we're going to see him throwing like he normally does at any point this year. But that's okay. We've got to feel like he can go out there and protect himself. And he doesn't know when Judge is going to actually return to the field. And they're waiting for the trainers to say he can. He's been just doing some long toss stuff, so it's not going to happen in Tampa. And he actually said, could it be Boston maybe? I just don't know yet. Now, I've all along held the belief that I don't expect he will play in the field until the playoffs. I think in the playoffs he's the type of guy that will say, I want to be there for my team and what's best for my team is me being out there. And you just hope, you know, you got to feel like he can't compromise, like he's not going to try to throw people out at home, but he can still catch a fly ball, he can still make a play. And then obviously him being in the right field allows Stanton to be the designated hitter. And their offense is better when those two guys are in the lineup. So my expectation all along was that they wouldn't compromise him. Especially when you consider the schedule is so soft, so soft to finish the season, they have the easiest strength of schedule remaining. That I think the next time we see Judge in the outfield, or at least the next time we should see him in the outfield, should not be until the playoffs. But so am I wrong to think that this is not shocking news, that they don't know when they're going to see him in the field and that they have to. That they doubt we're ever going to really see him throw the ball like he normally can for the rest of this year. I don't see that as big a big story, do you?
Peter Rosenberg
No, I hear what you're saying at this point. How could you not have expected it? I mean, considering we thought much worse earlier in the summer? I mean, I was on. I was in France, Alan, when I saw John Boy post a video saying Tommy John for Aaron Judge.
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
And so to be here now and know that we may have some limitations, how could you not expect that? The truth is they have so many different little things to worry about. It's sort of like a bunch of holes in the, you know, I don't know, the boat reference, but you get the idea. Don't you okay the water getting into.
Alan Hahn
The boat or the dam?
Peter Rosenberg
The dam, the boat, the levee, whatever it is. And this is just another one. I mean as long as you have Aaron, water scares me. That's a good point. You need to have judges bat obviously to have any conversation about having a season from, from here on in but no long way of saying it. I'm not shocked to hear that at this point.
Alan Hahn
All right, so there's, there's that part of it but I'm looking at the schedule and I just consider what's coming up for the Yankees has to give you some belief that they will, they will be in the playoffs. What I don't know is if they'll win the division. And that is also why I look at this weekend as the first critical of. I would say there's three critical series left. Two of them are against Boston, one's against the Astros who also, if you notice they're in a little bit of a spin. They've just went back to back games, giving up 10 runs or more and getting blown out, getting I think shut out, to be honest with you. So Joel Sherman had this and I know again we'll do this one Thursday, but I'm just, this is what I'm looking forward to and why if you want to sell me on, hey, they got some momentum going here with the Twins and the Cardinals and you know, they got Tampa for two and can they, can they roll into this series against the Red Sox feeling good about themselves? Because it's been a minute since they felt good about themselves. Keep in mind how important the head to head is with Boston considering you are already now one in five against them is because the Red Sox are 41 and 24 at home and 24 and 8 since June 10th. They swept the Yankees there, they won seven straight there. So do you really want to go to Boston for a three game wild card series? Let's say they end up matching up that way. Hell no, you don't want that. So that's, that's one thing to think about when it comes to the head to head. You still have the opportunity with these last two series to, you know, make up what happened in June, which was embarrassing, especially that series at the stadium when they, you lost two or three and you look terrible losing them. And I came back that Monday saying I don't like the way this looks and everybody told me I was crazy. But we all know it's what's happened since that date. I mean from that, that, that, that Friday the 13th game, the Yankees were. The Yankees have been 25 and 32 since then. The Red Sox 34 and 22. So this is a rivalry thing. This is a. There's a lot going on here with this series this weekend. And that's the only way that I will allow myself to buy into. You know what? Okay, maybe things are turning for them because that series is going to matter. The Red Sox do have their number playing the Twins, who you own. Beating the Rays, who gave up. They're not even playing their home stadium. You know, beating, beating the Cardinals. They gave up as well. Like that stuff doesn't count. Then after it, you've got the Nationals gave up and the. The White Sox, please. God awful. So this series will matter. Now, another thing on the Yankee front that I found fascinating as well is the situation that's happening right now with Max Freed, who is still technically in the Cy Young conversation with Tara Scubal. Although I just, I have a, I have a hard time making the case. It's almost like the Judge Cal Raleigh MVP race. Wouldn't you think it's Cal rallies to win now even though Judge. The Yankees without Judge are. Are not a playoff team. They might even be an under.500. They're bad team.
Peter Rosenberg
That's, that's, that's fair.
Alan Hahn
But, and I know the war is going to be part of it too, because judging the lineup and all that stuff. But, but if Judge is now relegated to DH for the rest of the season, I know his numbers are really good. But if Cal Riley is the breaks the record for home runs for a catcher, he's got to win the mvp. Not to like. I love Aaron Judge. I think he had a great half a season. But the reality is the injury and the inability to play the field I think is going to compromise his ability to win a third mvp. But for Max Freed to be in the Cy young conversation. So July 12 was when he left that game with the, with the blister on his, on his. On his finger. And I kept thinking since that blister, he has not been the same pitcher. The numbers tell me I'm right. His. Well, he's 3 and 3. His ERA is almost 7. It's 6.80. But they're saying that the blister is not the issue. They're saying that it's fatigue. Whoa, Peter. If they're saying it's innings fatigue, because he doesn't. He has not had a season where he's pitched a ton of innings. I think it's career high. Might be 180. He's already at mid season. He was already well over 100 and so a lot of scouts were concerned. How is he going to be late in the season? Well, the numbers are telling you that he's really struggling with his location. He is battling through a lot of, you know, he'll throw a lot of pitches. I think you're seeing him throw balls out of, he's out of the strike zone more. He doesn't walk a ton, but it's just the fact that he's got to fight through a lot of different at bats. He gives up home runs. If this is your ace and he's not used to pitching a 200 inning season, are you telling me in October he's going to find it and his arm's going to just suddenly regenerate or is Max Freed going to continue to down spiral, which almost means like his value as the de facto ace because there's no Garrett Cole. I don't like that as a Game 1 starter in a playoff series, do you? That really concerns me, him and Rodon, like that's what I'm relying on.
Peter Rosenberg
Relying on?
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a very tough one.
Alan Hahn
My reasoning for pessimism is not hate and not all that stuff. My reasoning for pessimism is the numbers are telling me I don't have a reason to believe this year.
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, even in the best of circumstances where the Yankees, let's say we're playing at this point the way they were playing at this point last year, you would still go into the playoffs nervous because for the last, I don't know, the entire, this entire generation of Yankee baseball going back the last seven years, you would be concerned that they're not going to hit in the playoffs.
Alan Hahn
Yes.
Peter Rosenberg
And that would be an absolutely reasonable concern. So how could you be staring a September in the face right now where they've got another a myriad of problems on both sides of the ball and not have concerns that would make you an insane person?
Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
This is a big one, right?
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
What is it again?
Alan Hahn
It's Ordinary by Alex Warren. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but again, this doesn't have we got a list tomorrow as we do every Wednesday.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, sure.
Alan Hahn
I already know what my list is going to be, if you don't mind.
Peter Rosenberg
Peter Summer of all time. Of all time.
Alan Hahn
Are you good with that? And I'm going to. Do you mind if I curate this and then I'll allow you to just trash it?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, of course. I love it.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
It's real talk.
Alan Hahn
I think that's what we'll do all time, though.
Peter Rosenberg
All right.
Alan Hahn
So going back to Forever Ever, Best songs of summer. Okay. In the meantime, it is game time, brought to you by Tillamore Do Irish Whiskey. Because, Peter, when it's game time, it's time. Michael J. Michael J.
Peter Rosenberg
It's Tolly Dice.
Alan Hahn
My favorite one. Mets in the Nationals coverage begins right after us on 880 ESPN 6:05pm so that's right, no enn tonight, the Yankees are in Tampa. They take on the Rays at 7:35. And don't forget, also a little WNBA action for you. Liberty hosting the links at 7. Telemore du the original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish Whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullemore Dew or try the new Tullemore Dew. Honey, during today's action. Glasses up. You know, to enjoying Tullamore do responsibly. A little Mets injury report update driven by Ramsey Mazda. So not good news for Francisco Alvarez. So did you see, he's, he's stealing a base, sliding into second and he jams his thumb. It turns out the MRI says right thumb UCL sprain. Did you know your thumb has a ucl?
Peter Rosenberg
I had no clue.
Alan Hahn
Now you do.
Caller
I don't know.
Alan Hahn
Imagine having Tommy John on your thumb. So anyway, no, that's a thing. Yeah, but he's got a sprain in the thumb, the right thumb. And so now they're looking at 10 to 14 days and they'll be, they're going to reevaluate him at that point for a potential return. So again, won't see him till September. Now, why this is important is number one, this is your, this is your main catcher. And he struggled early in the season, but as we learned, they sent him to the minors and it was absolutely the right thing to do. He got himself right. And when he came back, since being in the minors for about a month, Batten. 323, four home runs, 13 RBIs in 21 games. And he's another righty bat that can hit lefties. The Mets struggle against lefties. So now you have that issue. Third base hasn't given you much. So that is, that is a big concern for the Mets is losing Alvarez, especially when he had really started to find it once again. So that is certainly something to keep an eye on as they go Forward. They are playing the nationals. They're not very good. And that starts tonight. So that Met injury update driven by Ramsey Mazda. It's the experience of driving a new Mazda and buying a new Mazda from Ramsey Mazda. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. So you said you wanted to close out with some conversation.
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, I think we should talk about people.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, let's do it. Eddie in Brooklyn. More Song of the Summer conversation. Eddie, Eddie.
Peter Rosenberg
Eddie, don't do this.
Alan Hahn
We lost. Eddie. I didn't know you were a screamer. That was a moment. Dave is in Queens. Dave.
Caller
Yeah. Paris, Peter. Paris. Peter and Alan.
Alan Hahn
Hank.
Peter Rosenberg
Paris Peters.
Caller
Yeah. You say Paris every day, my friend. Because you. Because you got it on your mind. I get you. Okay. Earlier, Pete, you said despacito. Like, are you unfamiliar with that song? I'm not knocking you if you are, but of course I'm here to tell.
Peter Rosenberg
You a little about that song familiar of desperate with Despacito. I just didn't remember it being a song of summer.
Caller
Peter.
Alan Hahn
I do.
Caller
Peter. That was everyone. Pete. And Allen. Allen remembers. Let me tell you. Just, you know, you are Mr. Music Pete. You do a lot of things. But mate, you can dominate me in music history. I know that you can. I'm a little older. But the thing is that song definitely was. You have to get that in your head, that song. Because it's. It never. If it's in your head. It's a beautiful thing to have in your head.
Peter Rosenberg
It pops up now. Song that kind of always gets back here. I just didn't remember when it was big. It was. It was released in January 2017. So yeah, maybe it was big that summer.
Caller
I guess at 2017 it was huge. Like, you know, I had a lot of in my life. It was huge. But it wasn't just me. And like music doesn't dominate my sports does. But that song was. Was powerful. And I think you should reef. I think you should. I think you should listen to it one more time just to get it in your head, give it respect. Because it sounded like you kind of poo pooed it. I don't know. Or if you didn't think it was that big. But it was huge with Louis Fonzie and Daddy Yankee Bieber did remix with it, you know, so I mean, it was huge. Yeah, I agree.
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't know we were doing full despacito history.
Alan Hahn
Oh no, we're going deep in it. Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but I remember the only thing I forgot was that it was summer. I didn't. I just. That's all. That's all.
Alan Hahn
Okay, let's go to Ace in Brooklyn.
Caller
Ace, how you guys doing? I just wanted to call and say I think the song of this summer was Exactly Anxiety by Dochi. And I definitely feel that way because I loved the original, and it seemed like every time I turned the radio or TV on, it was on or on a commercial or in a movie or something. So, yeah, I think that was the.
Peter Rosenberg
Song for the summer.
Caller
Thanks, guys.
Alan Hahn
Okay, that's. That's. You know. Again, these are all suggestions, but I don't. I don't know if it lives up to, Like, I had. I had a list, I think. Oh, no, I have it here. Like, I'm going through the years. Like. Like. And some of them are. They're earworm songs. Like, you remember that song Cheerleader? It's a terrible, painful song. But it was everywhere for a while back in 2015. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You really want to go there? 2002. I said, Jake's going back to 2000.
Peter Rosenberg
Where's it going?
Alan Hahn
Hot in here. Like Blurred Member Blurred Lines.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, that. That was.
Peter Rosenberg
That was. Was that a summer, too?
Alan Hahn
That was summer. Yeah. So was. Get lucky. So was. Drop it like it's hot. You had. What else? Oh, God. Call me maybe. Oh, my God. I want. That's awful. But it was everywhere. Hey. Very good one.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a big one.
Alan Hahn
Rolling in the Deep Fancy by Iggy Azalea.
Peter Rosenberg
Mm, that's not what you want.
Alan Hahn
One Dance by Drake.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm good on one dance. It was popular. Unless you were from Wine dance and you remixed it. I need a Wine Dance.
Alan Hahn
Ah, One of the best. I mean. Oh, I got a feeling about a Black Eyed Peas. Yeah, I got a feeling. Was a good one. Umbrella when that came out. Come on. Like, it just. Like, there are songs that just. They just took over. Crazy in Love.
Peter Rosenberg
Crazy. And you want about a monster.
Alan Hahn
Yeah, monster.
Peter Rosenberg
Crazy in Love is still the wedding jam of all time.
Alan Hahn
That's the never. Is that the bride walking in song that every DJ goes to now?
Peter Rosenberg
No, not necessarily. It's just often it's a. It's a. It's a wedding opener.
Alan Hahn
Okay.
Peter Rosenberg
It's playing at some point during the wedding, and all you have to pray is. And again, this is why. You guys know how I feel. You got to go DJ over band, because God forbid, a band play it, and then they have the. What? The dude in the band try to rap Jay Z's verse.
Alan Hahn
Oh, God. Just not good.
Peter Rosenberg
Young Hoving the place. Oh, it's the it is as bad as I saw a band, I saw a Vegas bar band doing it and I was like, I don't ever want to see the fake rap of Jay Z again. Because you could catch a singer who could, who, who could do a nice job singing it. But then the rap comes and you're like, oh, my good lord.
Alan Hahn
Like, I. I know no one likes this song, but, um, bop was a.
Peter Rosenberg
Summer song, by the way.
Alan Hahn
That's that one. Do enjoy another earworm song.
Peter Rosenberg
It is an earbop. As stupid as it is, it is very hard to hear bop and have unpleasant feelings. Yeah, I get you vibe of it.
Alan Hahn
I guess that's fair. All right. Nas is in Queens. Got a question. Good. Nas, Nas. We gave Nas a chance. That's painful. Clown show, Clown show.
Peter Rosenberg
Clown show.
Alan Hahn
Clown show. That's disappointing, Peter.
Peter Rosenberg
It was not how you want to go out.
Alan Hahn
No. You don't want to go out that way.
Peter Rosenberg
And you know Richard is there, but you know that can't get. He can't get this done in a minute.
Alan Hahn
No. 90 seconds. Not possible. Peter, you want to work on Labor Day?
Peter Rosenberg
Let me sum it up.
Alan Hahn
What happened?
Peter Rosenberg
Richard suggesting that we do a show from the US Open boardwalk on Labor Day?
Alan Hahn
Sorry, buddy, not a chance. Hey, it's his third year doing it.
Caller
He thought.
Alan Hahn
Third time's Trump, by the way, after.
Peter Rosenberg
Dan Grasse and Dave Rothenberg, maybe. I love the US Open. I go, yes, most years to the US Open. I'll probably find a way to go this year. But the win for the radio station in being on the US Open boardwalk, it's just. I don't think it's there.
Alan Hahn
You don't think we're drawing in the tennis crowd?
Peter Rosenberg
I don't think we're drawing the tennis crowd. I don't think we have enough. I don't think the audience listening. If we were broadcasting live, even if they gave us interviews with big tennis players, which Alan, I would die to do that. I would love that.
Alan Hahn
Sure.
Peter Rosenberg
And you know what they'd be saying? I'd have John Winthrop texting me, saying, all right, enough with the tennis. Let's talk football with these guys.
Alan Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
Can you ask Naomi Osaka what she thinks of the jets chances this year? So it just doesn't work.
Alan Hahn
Garrett Wilson was named jets captain. Let's get reaction.
Peter Rosenberg
Mets baseball coming up right here on espn. New York Allen, I will see you tomorrow. Three o'. Clock.
Alan Hahn
We'll do it again.
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to Madan, Han and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter Rosenberg
I don't want to know how the.
Alan Hahn
Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.
Don Hahn
Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.
Date: August 19, 2025
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Theme: Sports and the Soundtrack of Summer – Football, Baseball Injury News, and Defining the “Song of the Summer”
This hour weaves together two vibrant strands of New York sports radio: the heated debates over the Jets’ prospects amid significant changes, and a lively, nostalgia-fueled conversation about what makes a song the true “song of the summer.” From musical pop culture to the intricacies of baseball and football injuries, Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg field passionate callers and crack wise while dropping plenty of insights on what matters most in the city right now.
Timestamps: 01:27–11:15, 43:49–48:56
Callers Share Picks:
Rob in Suffering proposes the Jonas Brothers’ “No Time to Talk,” citing its Bee Gees “Staying Alive” interpolation.
Rod in New Jersey calls “Change of Lips” by Bad Bunny the real standout, referencing its Fourth of July lyric and radio rotation.
What Qualifies as “Song of the Summer”?
Shift Toward “Artist or Album of the Summer”
Women as the Arbiters of Summer Anthems
The Importance of Song Longevity and Cultural Penetration
Memorable Quotes:
Song of the Summer Nostalgia List
Timestamps: 05:32–06:53
Rod in NJ warns Peter Rosenberg about back injuries from lifting toddlers:
Meniscus Regeneration:
Timestamps: 13:47–16:53
Justin Fields on “Boring” Jets Offense:
Hahn & Rosenberg’s Outlook:
Jets Running Back Depth:
Team Identity:
Timestamps: 19:09–20:39
Timestamps: 21:08–42:25
Yankees:
Mets:
Pitching Concerns (Yankees):
Timestamps: 46:00–49:13
| Segment | Content | Timestamp | |------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Song of the Summer | Caller picks, what qualifies, nostalgia | 01:27–11:15 | | Parenting, Back Injuries | Advice, yoga, meniscus regeneration | 05:32–06:53 | | Jets Predicament | Offense analysis, Fields, RB room | 13:47–16:53 | | "Where They Play" Game | College football conference realignment | 19:09–20:39 | | Yankees/Mets Baseball | Stretch run, injuries, upcoming schedule | 21:08–42:25 | | Nostalgia Music Roundtable | More summer hits, wedding songs, “earworms” | 46:00–49:13 |
Fun, lightly combative, and deeply New York. Alan and Peter bounce between hard opinions and self-deprecating humor. Callers drive the discussion into personal territory — from pop music debates to advice on back health for dads — all while the hosts riff, reminisce, and offer context on what’s trending this summer in both sports and culture.