Hour 3: Jets Fandom Funeral & Picks

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast — Hour 3: Jets Fandom Funeral & Picks
Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This animated hour dives into New York sports woes and hopes, focusing especially on the agony of Jets fandom. The crew discusses the Knicks’ outlook, drills into NFL picks, dissects the unique psychology of losing fans, and even invents the concept of the “Jets Fandom Funeral.” The energy is high, debates are playful, and the calls from listeners are as passionate and bruised as ever.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. Knicks vs. Celtics Preview — Injuries, Odds, Hype

[00:46 - 08:12]

• Season Outlook & Injuries:

  • Knicks get ready for a home game against a depleted, “Tatumless” Boston Celtics.
  • Hahn: “Knicks got a big game against the Celtics tonight trying to get to 2-0...Boston is not exactly loaded this year.” [01:23]
  • Injury status: Josh Hart questionable; Robinson out. Knicks also juggling absences and game-time decisions. [03:18]

• Vegas Odds & Expectations:

  • Rosenberg quizzes the crew on the betting lines: Knicks -3.5 at home.
  • Bemoans the uncertainty: “It wouldn’t have shocked me...if it’s the Knicks -7.5. That would not have been shocking to me.” [03:37]

• Early NBA Season Patterns:

  • Hahn observes, “Bad teams don’t know they’re bad yet...it takes about 20 games for teams like the Celtics to realize...this ain’t it.” [05:57]

• Game Tactics & Defensive Identity:

  • Emphasis on Knicks defense, referencing their handling of Donovan Mitchell and reflecting on how “Nick Wings” shut down opposing stars. [07:00]

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II. Listener Calls: Knicks Hopes & Jets Anguish

[08:12 - 10:15]

• David from Elizabeth affirms his Knicks belief, but when talk shifts to the Jets, his voice drops:

  • Hahn: “See the way, see the way his voice changed, guys?” Rosenberg: “Defeat in this man’s voice. Woody Johnson, these are your people. This is what you’ve done to your team.” [09:06]

• Fan Mood:

  • The hosts underscore the contrasting emotional texture: “One fan, one team has given him everything he could want...and the other is giving him absolutely nothing.” [09:26]

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III. Classic Caller Chaos: Tech Issues, Tangents & Laughter

[10:15 - 14:14]

• Hilarious detour with Big Dick from Manhattan whose phone call gets derailed by background events and repeats, leading to on-air confusion and jokes about rewinding like a DVR. [10:18 - 13:30]

• Meta-discussion about live calls:

  • Rosenberg relishes the unpredictable chaos: “I don’t know if I’ll get a call better today than a dentist who gets interrupted by someone in the chair and then a human being rewinds like a DVR...” [13:30]

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IV. The Agony & Logic of Jets Fandom: To Leave or Not to Leave?

[14:14 - 24:00]

• Raw Fan Pain:

  • Bobby from Port Washington: “We will never win with Woody. He likes to buy expensive toys and break them.” [14:16]
  • The hosts analogize Jets fandom to toxic relationships and self-harm:
    • Don: “If you’d gone to a restaurant and they gave you botulism every time, you’d give up.” [15:31]
    • Hahn: “I wish the Jets would cheat on me—then I’d have a reason to leave.” [16:21]

• Why Don’t Fans Just Walk Away?

  • Fear of “bad luck” if you leave, fear of missing out on the good years.
  • Hahn: “The minute I leave, they’ll get good... because that’s the life of a Jets fan.” [16:49]
  • Don sums up: “I just think it’s emotional abandonment, and that’s kind of where I am right now.” [18:38]

• Emotional Detachment – Is It Allowed?

  • Alan: “Watch because that’s your team...but to be still emotionally detached where you’re still living and dying, I don’t get.” [19:12]
  • Don reflects on his own journey: “If it wasn’t for the job, I don’t know if I’d watch every Sunday.” [20:13]

• The Detachment Dilemma:

  • Alan: “If you completely disconnect, I don’t think you can then reconnect...You’d enjoy [success] but not as much.” [21:03]

• Jets & Mets Fan Parallels:

  • Arguments about whether it’s possible to completely leave, or if you always remain somewhat tethered.

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V. The “Jets Fandom Funeral” — An Idea is Born

[32:40 - 34:09]

• A Ritual for Letting Go

  • James in Long Island suggests: “It’s a perfect time to get off...enjoy your life.”
  • Don builds: “Can you do something where you euthanize your fandom?...Have a funeral, essentially?” [32:41]

• The Plan:

  • Hahn: “We actually do something...where we say goodbye to the fandom. We bury it. We do something interesting and we have a big party afterward—a repast.”
  • Don volunteers: “If the Jets don’t win a single game this season...we will hold a funeral for my jet fandom. I will take my Boomer Esiason jersey, put it in a box, and bury it in the ground.” [33:30]

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VI. Callers & The Defeated Generations of Jets Faithful

[36:42 - 38:03]

• Richard from Rochester:

  • “Been a Jet fan since 1967...They will never win with Woody Johnson as owner. Never.” [36:42]
  • “If the Jets happen to win, it won’t be the same. If I see Woody holding up the Super Bowl trophy, it’ll be a mixed bag for me.” [37:36]

• Recurring themes:

  • Belief that root causes of suffering are ownership-related and inescapable.
  • Groans of generational disappointment and the “Lucy pulls the football away” metaphor for eternal hope and defeat. [38:03]

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VII. Picks Segment (“Pro Picks”)

[41:49 - 48:57]

• NFL picks with point value (1, 2, 3): team loyalty, skepticism, and good-natured trash talk

  • Alan’s Picks: Niners over Texans (1), Atlanta over Miami (2), Jets over Packers (3) — “Does anybody really think Aaron Rodgers is going to lose a game against the Green Bay Packers? My answer is no.” [44:12]
  • Don’s Picks: Jets cover vs. Cincinnati (1), Bucs over Saints (2), Cowboys over Broncos (3). “Sometimes a miracle win...does not age well the next week.” [44:56]
  • Peter’s Picks: Packers to beat Jets (“Packers are a better football team.”), Bengals cover vs. Jets (“Give me the Bengoos. They’ll cover easily.”), Atlanta over Miami for three points. [47:03/48:30]

• More on the agony of picking Jets games:

  • Rosenberg: “To actually choose willingly to ride with the New York Jets...I think we’ll talk to Don on Monday and he’ll go, ‘I’m sorry I blacked out.’” [47:03]

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VIII. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Knicks’ Early Season:

  • “Early in the NBA season, the bad teams don’t know they’re bad yet.” — Alan Hahn [05:57]

• On Fandom Pain:

  • “If you’d gone to a restaurant and they gave you botulism every time you went, you’d give up.” — Don La Greca [15:31]
  • “I wish the jets would cheat on me—then I could say I have a reason to leave.” — Alan Hahn [16:21]

• On Ritualizing the End of Fandom:

  • “Can you do something where you can euthanize your fandom? Like a ceremony where you just say goodbye. And it’s over.” — Don La Greca [32:41]
  • “We actually do something where we say goodbye to the fandom. We bury it. We do something interesting and we have a big party after.” — Alan Hahn [32:54]

• On Ownership Frustration:

  • “He’s a trust fund baby who never ran a business in his life...He don’t know how to run people. He don’t know how to run a business. He’s an imbecile.” — Richard in Rochester on Woody Johnson [36:54]

• On Eternal Futility:

  • “It’s really how it is, life as a Jets fan. Every time you think, ‘this time, Charlie Brown, I’m going to kick it...’ and then [something awful happens].” — Alan Hahn [38:03]

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IX. Classic Sports Radio Antics

• Caller chaos and hilarious interruptions (patient interrupts a call; caller resets to his opening statement) provide comic relief and highlight the unique live radio energy.
• Discussion of Bingo cards for show catchphrases (the “Allen Hahn drinking game”) as a way to create playful engagement with the audience. [21:41]

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X. Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:46] – Knicks vs. Celtics betting line & preview
• [05:57] – Early season NBA patterns
• [08:12] – Start of Knicks/Jets fans calls
• [14:14] – Jet fandom misery/debate about leaving the team
• [32:41] – Jet Fandom Funeral concept devised
• [36:42] – Richard from Rochester: generational futility
• [41:49] – Pro Picks segment (NFL picks)
• [44:12] – Alan’s picks monologue
• [47:03] – Rosenberg reacts to Don picking Jets
• [48:59] – Allen Hahn signs off for senior night

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Tone & Style

The episode is a mixture of exasperation, gallows humor, team loyalty, and genuine camaraderie among the hosts. The language is direct, sometimes self-deprecating, often bursting into laughter as callers and hosts riff. Rosenberg pushes the pace and brings hip-hop-style jabs, Hahn plays the jaded everyfan with a stats edge, and Don embodies the classic, world-weary New York sports voice.

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For Those Who Didn’t Listen:
This hour is a masterclass in what it feels like to be a beaten-down New York sports fan, especially if you bleed green and white. It blends bold sports analysis, The agony of broken fandom, interactive hilarity with passionate (and sometimes chaotic) callers, and high-energy, high-stakes NFL picks, all in the signature raw, unfiltered voice of sports talk radio.

Transcript

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This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

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Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 880 ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers 502 in the big city.

[B]

Sorry, that's my Don or Alan impression depending on the given day. Welcome to Don Han and Rosenberg on this beautiful Friday. Very fall. Very fall Friday. That's a. It's a chill in the air guys, wouldn't you agree?

[C]

I agree. Felt good though.

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It's another swing, my friend. Yeah, it's out there.

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It's swing. It was leaving this morning, early this morning. Crisp. It was in the 40s.

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Yeah.

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My, my 47 I believe it was.

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When we were my trip outside this morning with Bear. I went oh man, I got to pull my winter hats out. It's time.

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It's time.

[B]

We're getting there right now. And as Halloween is just one week away, we have a lot to get to in this hour. Guys, we haven't really talked. Easy for me to say. We haven't gotten to the Knicks really at all. Knicks got a big game against the Celtics tonight trying to get to 2 0. And obviously you want to beat a team in Boston who is not exactly loaded this year and set the tone early in this season that the Knicks are the real deal and they're not dealing with the likes of a team like the Tatumless Boston Celtics.

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Word.

[C]

And we got that today. You know what? Can Don drop a word? If Danico makes a great point in the game tonight, wouldn't it be great? Danico like finishes his point and Don just goes word. And it goes right back to the action.

[B]

I'll tell you what, be amazing if that were to happen.

[C]

Legendary.

[B]

It would. No, it could start something. Like people could start being like whoa, I'm loving what's happening with these Devils broadcast. Donnie Pucks just drop a word in the middle of nowhere.

[A]

Word.

[B]

Let me, let me, let me throw something at you guys and I think, I don't know if you guys agree. Feels like for the 5 o' clock hour we should probably have a lot on the table, the Knicks and the football of it all. But you guys have any idea what the line is tonight for the The Celtics and the Knickerbockers at the Garden.

[C]

I have not looked.

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All right.

[B]

Interested in a guess?

[C]

Throw it at me, Don.

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You have a guess.

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I am going to say that the Knicks are a. Because the game is at the Garden. Correct.

[B]

That's right. Madison Square.

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The Knicks. Knicks minus two and a half.

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Allen, any thoughts?

[C]

Yeah, I was. I was thinking three and a half, four.

[B]

Well, you got it. Three and a half.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just find that interesting because it's a home game for the Knicks. How do we feel about everyone's availability tonight? Any. Anything different from last game, Allen, or should it be basically the same?

[C]

The latest injury report still has Josh Hart as questionable, so he's not out. Rich Robinson out. Out for sure. Adenobi, probable and questionable.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, that's still. I think we're gonna be hearing about game time decisions, so I just find it interesting.

[B]

And I know basketball lines are kind of funky, but guys, like, just. Just to be real with you, it wouldn't have shocked me with it being a home Knicks game and what the Celtics are at this point, because it's easy to forget. It's not just Tatum being down. Right. It's. It's true Holiday. It's Al Horford. This is not the same team at all. I wouldn't have been shocked to have looked up and it's the Knicks seven and a half. That would not have been shocking to me.

[C]

No, it's just too early in the season. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I guess they're just still trying to figure it out.

[C]

And there's a little bit of, you know, again, if. If we had the Jaylen Brown comments from this morning. Yeah, like. Like he's. He really was. You want to set up this matchup? Listen to him about facing the Knicks. Absolutely. Yeah. Tonight should be a fun one.

[A]

Looking forward to coming out and competing.

[C]

Always a great atmosphere for basketball in New York, so it should be fun. Well, he said a lot more than that.

[B]

Yeah, that was a. That was a pretty modest part.

[C]

Yeah, that was very, very mild. But. But he is. He had, in a previous podcast, talked about, about insufferable Knick fans that he had to deal with after losing in that series and how much he hated.

[A]

Hey, you know, revenge. But you can only do what you can do if you don't have the bodies.

[C]

Right? No, I know. But early in the season, though, you're. And you don't know what the Knicks are. What they did against the Cavs was impressive, but the Cavs were missing, as we said yesterday. They were missing or two days ago they were missing three rotation players, two starters. The Knicks were certainly missing, you know, know two rotation players and one starter. But it's. There's still some curiosity. What are the Knicks? What are they going to look like? And you know, in a game like this, you think that Missoula is going to have the Celtics fighting, scratching, clawing, and the way them and the Celtics went, Sixers went back and forth on opening night, you know, they both put up a ton of points. So Nick, defense going to be tested.

[B]

And I think the Celtics drop 116 on night one now. But I'll tell you this, Celtics started Pritchard as I mentioned. And so you have Derrick White, Peyton Pritchard and Jalen Brown after that.

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Guys, name me another player. Celtic fan, name me. Name me the next guy.

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Sam. The great Sam Houser.

[C]

Sam Houser. Okay, there's one. What else you got?

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No, he's not. Nothing.

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Nothing.

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Wasn't was. It wasn't Hauser, the guy that was banged up last year?

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Howser's fine, but he's, he's more a defensive piece for this team. I mean he's eight, eight points a game. He's a body. Yeah, he's a gamer, but he's not, he's not special.

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Yeah, no, it's. But it's still. I don't know. I always, I'm always early in the NBA season, the bad teams don't know they're bad yet. And the teams that were good that are going through things like they still have a little fight in them. It takes a, it takes about 20 games or 25 games for those teams like the Celtics to kind of realize, yeah, this ain't it. And then you'll start seeing guys resting. You know, that'll all start to happen. But early on, like they, they don't know they're bad or they don't. They don't want to be bad yet. It depends on what their situation is. So you always worry about those early season matchups against teams like that.

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Now the Celtics had a heavy dose of Nemius. Keita, who did not play much last year, 17 points and eight boards though, in game one the other day. So to your point, Allen, you don't know with a team that is foundationally and structurally good like the Celtics, you don't know whether the people that they have are going to be pretty solid.

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Well, Cade is a, he's a, you know, again, one of these bigs. It's just a high energy body that's just going to jump and run around and do all kinds of stuff and really disrupt. And those are guys that are pain in the ass to play against. And you know what you want is Huck Porty who the Knicks started at center, Ariel Huckporty. So he's their Keita. Basically a guy that anybody else in the NBA that's playing the Knicks goes who the hell is this guy? Right. But Knick fans know who he is obviously, but they're the same. He's the same kind of thing. He's just this energetic dude that can, that can give you good minutes without really being a big name or big impact player when it comes to the box score. So you hope that they equal each other out. But it's, it's once again the Nick Wings dealing with Jaylen Brown. That's it. What they did to Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell had a great third quarter, but then he had 0 for 4, did nothing in the fourth quarter. Why? Because Bridges and Naomi just basically tag teamed and just took turns just, just guarding him and not letting him get any airspace. And that essentially was the game. Superstar tried to win a game at the Garden, took over the third quarter and it felt like one of those nights where the other team star was going to steal the stage and then, and all those two, the Knick Wings just went, nope, not happening. Shut it down. So they have to do it again.

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1-800-919-3776 Got a nick call. Been on hold for a while. David and Elizabeth. What's up buddy?

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What's going on fellas? Hey, hey, Rosenberg radio. Man, you got to chill out with those good picks, bro. They're going to have Chauncey and friends in your hallway looking for you.

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3,000 miles.

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This is going to be a thing now.

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Oh yeah, it definitely is, fellas. Yeah, I just want to say this with the Knicks, I just want us to continue that. Yeah, this is one of the teams that was giving us trouble last season. So if we get a good win this will be in a positive note. But it's Brad Stevens team so I think they're going to be competitive. They're going to get up the players and see how Jaylen Brown feels about ethnics fans. He's coming for us. And Don, I agree with you, that was fraudulent. I, I, I like Josh Allen and Lamar but we stink. So I'm gonna be a Jets fan. Appreciate you gentlemen.

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Thank you, buddy.

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Stick with it, man.

[C]

See the way, see the way his voice changed, guys. How he went from talking about the Knicks and the Celtics and all this stuff. He had energy. Then he went, but I'm gonna stay a Jets.

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Yeah, for the Jets.

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The feet in this man's voice. Woody Johnson, these are your people. This is what you've done to your team.

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What other way to describe a Jet fan right now. But defeated.

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Defeated.

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Done. And the Knicks, you get. You know you're gonna be pumped. But you. That was a great thing you pointed out there. One fan, one team has given him everything that he could want right now to start a season. And the other team is giving him absolutely nothing. But as we continue, there are a lot of reasons why people buy at Ramsey Mazda Collection. It's their customer service and it's their savings. Well, at 1.9% financing on a new Mazda 2025 CX50. Or at least for 219 for 36 months. Start shopping now at Ramsey Mazda dot com. Choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. Call 833-853-2970 for lease details. Vin SN 390557 MSRP32455. 0. Security deposit APR $17.48 per $1,000 financed ends 1031 25.

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See what he did there?

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I did.

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All right. It's all on the table right now. Talking jets, talking Giants, talking New York Knicks. He's been on hold. I'm giving him a shot. He had a great call the other day when you guys were gone. Okay, I'm gonna go to Big Dick in Manhattan.

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All right. Hi, Don.

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Peter. Allen. Allen, I want to close out with your boy from Long Island Lutheran. Greatest thing I've ever seen in basketball last year, Peter, it was 80 degrees on Halloween. PJ Colissimo. Talk about fraud on the game. You know, I listen to everything. Question why the OKC fans were booing KD in the introduction. Pj, he left your team and went to the opposing team, their big rival.

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All right.

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Day Ball and Jackson are similar to Boone and Judge. Day Ball is not going anywhere. Want to clean something up, you guys? What is this? Quiz this four weeks ago, you guys. I got to clean this up. Bert Jones. Don was better than Andrew Luck. Bert Jones was better than Andrew Luck. Who's this? This is. Is this right? Hello, fellas.

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Yeah, we're there.

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Sure.

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What's going on?

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. No, yeah.

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I'm sorry about that. Day Ball and Jackson.

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You apologize to him.

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They ball in Jackson. Aaron Boone and Aaron Judge. That's their tied at the hip.

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P.J.

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Carlissimo. Question Tuesday night on the radio. Why the OKC fans?

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All right, thanks a lot. Somebody actually hit rewind on him. And you know what, Richard, I apologize, but goodbye.

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I tried.

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Something just happened that was very disturbing. He got interrupted by a patient who had the audacity while on the chair trying to get work done, interrupting the phone call. And then he went back, like, two minutes into his own phone call.

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I gotta tell you guys, Don, I want you to recalibrate. Rather than be angry. I want us to study in amazement at what just happened.

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I. That was. What.

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Hold on. Do you think a patient picked up the phone?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Jacob, you know, you're gonna have to go back, and I'm gonna have to hear what happened initially.

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And he apologized.

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Pick up the line and say, who's this? Whole. Who's this?

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And he apologized to us for it.

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And he said yes.

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But then here's my question.

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What do we do?

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Why would Richard completely then forget that he already had delivered the point that he made?

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I understand if you're going to repeat what you just said, but he went back to the previous point.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think we hit our peak at the Big east tournament show that we did. That was very good moment at Penn State.

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It's really been downhill since then.

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And. And I think that was careening, if you will.

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Well, the thing is, I said this. He got gassed. He got very. He got a little high on himself at that moment.

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I just think it just. He. That was it. That. That was the moment.

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You have your moment. You hit the peak, and then you start going down. You start descending.

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See, the only thing. That's it. See? And here's. And this is. You know, we should have a meeting at some point about things like this. The difference. Just because we do everything live on the air for you. The people. People. The difference between me and Don, certainly. But I don't. I don't know. I think Alan, too.

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You love this. You think this is good.

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I thought that was.

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Yes.

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There's nothing better. I don't know if I'll get a caller better today than a dentist who gets interrupted by someone in the chair and then a human being rewinds like a DVR and starts talking. I see. I can't get enough of it. But I understand why someone would disagree.

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That's the Howard Stern.

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And you.

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You love that. That's.

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It's the train wreck.

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Chaos. Train wreck. And then there's that again.

[B]

Don. I told him to turn down. And it seems like they have the same Volume.

[C]

They don't know that this is drowning out your amazing voice. This might actually kill your career. They allowed that thing.

[B]

I need them to just make it like a light little whistle and make the rest. Donnie Pucks. All right, let's go with a little whistle. Let's go to Bobby in Port Washington, wants to talk some Jets. What's up, Bobby?

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Hey, guys.

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How you doing? All right.

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I am so happy to get on with you guys. I started watching the Titans at 7 on the black and white TV at Grandma's house. And they were sloppy and losers and the man came down from the sky. Sonny Werblin. Oh, my God. And he said, give me Joe Willie Namath and I will take you to the top of the mountain. And we did. I get tingles thinking of it right now. We will never win with Woody. He likes to buy expensive toys and break them. I. I mean, it's just. It's just terrible. And I'm lost in the source. What am I doing now? Damn, Darno. I still watch the Jets. Everybody likes a good train wreck, right? I want Sam Darno. I've been riding him since he left. He's coming to his own. What a guy. What a guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And Aaron Rodgers. I'm riding with him. I. I got to. When. When the jets get you, I'm with you, okay? And it's just. It's just great. It's just great. What do you think, guys?

[C]

I think. You sound like you are so conflicted and in so much pain he's broken. That he just. You're. You're trying to reason, wanting to let go while also telling me, telling us why you can never let go.

[A]

It is like nothing that goes on in your life. Like I said, if you've gone to a restaurant and they gave you botulism every time you went, you'd give up. You wouldn't go to that restaurant anymore. It stopped.

[B]

It's such a great point.

[A]

Wherever you bought clothes or got gassed, you just got robbed at gunpoint. Every single time you'd stop.

[B]

No. If you had a partner, if you had a girlfriend or boyfriend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Treated you like pure garbage. Well, all they do, they cheat on you. When they get back, they slap you in the face.

[C]

I think it's different. I don't think it's cheating on you. I think they just make such poor decisions constantly. Where you go broke, like. Like, it's almost like having that spouse that. That doesn't understand finances. And you go broke and you say, you can't do this again. I promise I won't do it again. So you build it back up, and then you go broke again and you keep falling for it instead of saying, you're just not good for me, like, I can't trust you.

[A]

But in a relationship, I can understand.

[C]

I wish the jets would cheat on me. Then I could. Then I could say, then I have a reason to leave.

[A]

But it's difficult sometimes to get the divorce and leave, and it's sticky and it's tough to go through. So sometimes people are like, I just don't want to have to deal with. With getting a lawyer and splitting everything up. And sometimes you stay together for the kids. This is easy. Just decide, I'm not going to root for you anymore. Done. There's no phone calls. There's no lawyers. There's no exchanging of any money.

[C]

It's too much history.

[A]

It is.

[C]

So I'm too invested, because what are you invested in? No, honestly, let me tell you what happens to a Jets fan. And you should know this as a Mets fan. This is what happens to a Jets fan the minute I leave. They'll get good the minute I leave. Because that's the life of a Jets man. Every time. Every time you get invested and you feel like, this is the one, this is the one, the Right. The rug comes out. So you know the reverse will happen the second you declare I'm no longer a fan. That's what'll happen. Oh, sure, now they'll win. I'm telling you, Don, that's exactly how every jets fan feel. I defy a Jet fan to call in and say, oh, I don't feel.

[A]

You just gave the reason. You just gave the reason. But what percentages are you working with, with that logic, right? You're. You're, You're. You're in your. You're heading to your mid-50s, right? And you're afraid that if you give up, they're going to eventually win the.

[C]

Super bowl or just get good or get good. Imagine. Imagine if Peter. Fifteen years, Don. If Peter swore off the commanders, and then the ownership change happened, and then. That's right, Daniel showed up, and then he's like, wait, wait, I. I said I was out. I burned all of anything I had that was Commanders. I completely erased anything, any connection I had to them. And, and now they get a new owner, and now all of a sudden, they find.

[B]

Let me ask you this question. How about this, though, Don? Aren't you allowed? If it's the ownership that makes you leave and you swear off the team, but you don't go to another team. You just move on and you stop paying attention. But you don't. You never pick up another team.

[C]

But that's what I'm doing.

[B]

And then the ownership were to come again. New ownership. All right. Can you come back? I feel like if you don't go to a new team and you leave because of ownership and ownership changes, I'm fine with you.

[C]

I just think it's emotional abandonment, and that's kind of where I am right now.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think you should be allowed to completely check out. Here's where. From a fraud standpoint, listen, do you want, in real life, but, like, in fraud land, is you still watch, but you detach yourself emotionally. Like, I can't understand a Jet fan if they lose in heartbreaking fashion on Sunday to the Bengals to get mad about. Like, what are you getting mad at, honestly? Why?

[C]

Right.

[A]

You know, so watch, because that's your team and that's what you've done. That's your tradition. Not telling you to stop following the team, but to be still emotional, emotionally detached to this, where you're still living and dying, where you're still upset after losses, still punching the wall. That I don't get. Like you said with the Mets, like, I'm a Met fan, but I long ago stopped with the whole. When I was younger, you know, kicking chairs, throwing stuff, just getting, like, so violent over a difficult. I, I can't do that anymore. It's stupid.

[C]

Yeah, it's just stupid. Yeah. See, is as long as that's how you feel, because that's literally where I am now because of the job. I have to stay connected to the job in a way where I keep up with the news and I follow it, but for the most part, I am at a place that, if it wasn't for the job, I, I don't know if I'd watch every Sunday. I might check in and just see.

[A]

Well, see, that's the stuff I'm not sure you should be allowed to do as a fan.

[C]

I, I. Why? Why would I. Because I don't get mad after losses any. I don't get mad. The last. I told you, the last thing I felt, I truly felt was when Roger's Achilles snapped. That's the last time I had any real feel where I just stood there and I said, I. Like, I just got.

[A]

Well, I, I will make a prediction because. Because here's where I think. And you know, Peter's a lot closer to this with the. The better help and all.

[B]

That.

[A]

But the play. Pop psychologist for a second.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

If you are someone that completely detaches yourself where you're not even watching anymore, you're not even caring. I believe the overwhelming majority of people that do that, if the team ever got good again, they wouldn't reconnect. It just wouldn't be the same.

[B]

They would.

[A]

They, they. They would show that they were happy, but they would lose it. You got to stay in it in at least in some depth. I'm not telling you to be emotionally attached where you're getting angry or happy, but if you completely disconnect, Peter, I don't think you can then reconnect that. If the team ever got to a Super bowl, you'd enjoy it, but you wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much than if you at least stayed connected during all the tough times. So, Allen, I believe that if the Knicks ever did. If the. If the jets ever did get good again, you would not be as emotionally attached to them as you were when you were younger.

[C]

I know what you're doing. Again, New edition. Can you stand the rain? Like it's the anthem of a fan.

[B]

We do need to set up. Don, you agree the. Especially on Fridays, the Allen Hahn drinking game, don't you?

[C]

Why? Because I bring it up all the time.

[B]

Can't stand the rain.

[C]

Well, that's a real thing. It's a fan.

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Blood in the ground.

[C]

Yeah, it's a bingo card. These are all bingo card things.

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Can you guys help us in the YouTube chat room or on Twitter at me Rosenberg radio. What are the Alan Han isms that belong on the big.

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The card and then. And then have a drink. And on Fridays you got to take like.

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That's right.

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Fine. By the end of the show, who's still standing?

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I gotta.

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What are you made up?

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After the game on Sunday, Devils are playing the Avalanche. Very strange. Devil's Avalanche. Home and home. Okay.

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Wow, that's bizarre.

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Sunday afternoon call in the game, and then we're going to fly to Denver after the game. So that's a good 4 something flight. I'm gonna work on it. I'll present it on Monday.

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Done.

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You trust me? So how many do you need?

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What?

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Like, I think it has to be four at least.

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No, no, you get the board. I. I want at least nine.

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You want.

[A]

Wow. Three, three and three.

[B]

So then, so then should we make it all of us, like a. When. When Peter mentions Jaden Daniels or you know, like we commanders from anything. Commanders. Jaden Daniels, Whatever it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. I'LL do. How about I'll come up with Alan's. Alan, you come up with Peters and let's get. And then. And then you come up with mine. Yeah. How about that?

[B]

I like this. But yours.

[A]

Yeah. Because you don't want to do it yourself, right? I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm telling you, our listeners will do an even better one because I've seen them do this for us before last year.

[C]

Let's do that then. Like, how about we just have suggestions? I mean, we have an email address. We also have Twitter. And we can just ask people what are the things that are repeated the most on the show? Then we collect them and decide, okay, these are the one.

[A]

But if we work on it independently, we can compare, we can mix and match.

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So we create a bingo card for every Friday. And those who want to partake can have Telemardu sitting right there on the table.

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And every single time one of those. And once you get three across.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you missed it earlier, by the way, and welcome back to Don Hanna Rosenberg. Phone lines jammed. Jets, let's see some Knicks, lots of jets. Though this, this might have added to jets fans angst at least I think. This stuff, it just plays so badly. Here's Aaron Glenn going back and forth with a reporter. We think Neil Best about the quarterback situation.

[A]

I cannot tell you that, but is.

[C]

It because you don't want to or because.

[A]

That's exactly it.

[C]

Tyrod's situation questionable. Isn't that play into this potentially?

[A]

That's exactly why I'm not telling you, because I don't want to.

[C]

I understand, but I mean, is it.

[A]

Is it partly because of the injury? That's exactly why I'm saying it, because I don't want to.

[D]

I don't know how many times I.

[A]

Got to answer you that. It's not going to change. Do.

[B]

Do the players know who the quarterback is?

[A]

That's going to be between me and the players.

[B]

Don't you wish. Sometimes I, I just wish. Is there ever, you guys tell me, has there ever been. Because you both would know this more than me. Has there ever been a reporter who went, hey man, we don't have to do this. A press conference, you and me could just fight. Like I, I would love to hear a reporter at some point. You know, they'd been doing it long enough. Like, hey man, the tone that you, with your, with which you're speaking to me, we could keep this going forth, have a nice peaceful conversation, or the two of us just go scrap. I might lose.

[C]

Larry Brooks has had moments like that.

[B]

Has he?

[C]

Oh yeah.

[B]

I respect the hella. I wish Neil Best would go, hey man, you're not my mother. You can't keep talking to me that way.

[C]

Well, I think anybody, any of us that have been beat writers, we have all had the confrontation moment or two or several. And there are times where, you know, like, if I don't say something right now, this whole room's gonna think they can walk all over me. And you know, there's a couple of times where, you know, I gotta, I gotta say something back. And you do, and in your back of your mind you're going, I'm about to regret this. Yeah, right. You just know I'm about just not.

[A]

Gonna end you're supposed to keep your.

[C]

Cool, and it's not supposed to be personal for you. So you. You're and all you want to get. See what Neil got. There were quotes. He got audio.

[A]

He.

[C]

He got a moment. He got a coach, you know, getting. All right, like, that's still a win.

[B]

Even if he's saying to you, I.

[C]

Don'T have to tell you. I'm not telling you anything. You're now getting him to say things that are gonna make headlines and you win.

[A]

I learned this, you know, dealing with torts. It was always cool to me, but I saw, oh, he wasn't cool to everybody.

[C]

Yeah. Comfortable.

[A]

Is that I. But, Alan, you said it. Don't take it personal.

[C]

Right.

[A]

He. Listen, no offense to Neil Best or Rich Samini or any of the guys to cover the jets, they all do a great job. But Iron Gun doesn't know any of those guys personally. Probably knows Rich from his playing days or whatever. He knows Rich personally, but he's just not. He's mad at the collective, not mad at you. If he's calling. If he says your mother, well, then you got a reason to throw down now. But if he's making you feel uncomfortable about your questions, like, hey, man, I'm just doing my job. It shouldn't matter. Your response doesn't matter. I'm doing my job. I'm asking the question. I can't make you answer the question, but it's my job to ask it. I've got a boss who wants me to ask this question. I'm going to ask it. You do with it what you want, but I'm not going to take it personal. So there's never any reason, Peter, to your point, to think throw down. Why would I get that upset? He doesn't want to answer. He doesn't answer.

[C]

I got a story. Now, before we get back to call, I see we have a ton of Jet calls. I just want to say one thing that I think Aaron Glenn's doing this week. Deflecting. I think he's taking the Woody Johnson story and putting in the rear view mirror and saying, come at the. I want them all coming at me instead of making Justin Fields and Justin Fields, it sucks as the main story. Instead, I want you to say I suck because I got job security so you can come at me about how I'm handling. You get mad at me and it distracts you from my quarterback situation that my owner just turned into a story. I think that's a great call by you.

[B]

That would be. That would be the right play. I'd like to see that.

[A]

And you know, to my point earlier in the show is that, you know, Woody put him in this situation where he can't start Justin Fields, but he probably doesn't know right now the viability of Taylor being able to play.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So he's playing this game and he's taking his anger out on the media and he probably feels it towards Woody. I gotta tell you, all the Jet fans that want Glenn gone right now, considering how much money he's making and the length of the contract, there's a better chance of Glenn resigning than him being fired. Like he might just, like, I don't need this garbage. I think you're right, you know, dealing with him because I. He's got to be angered by it. It's got to be.

[C]

You could tell he is by the.

[A]

Way, five year contract. What is he going to do?

[C]

Don, you could tell from, from Tuesday on how Glenn, like you could see because last couple of weeks he was softening up. He was being a little more conversational this week. You could tell he's pissed off and I don't think he's pissed off at the media.

[B]

Let's. Let's go back to the people, shall we?

[C]

Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

We don't have a ton of time in this hour. We'll close out the show after 6:30. Rosenberg solo vehicle with all the phone calls on all the topics we didn't get to all the. Everyone we didn't get to.

[C]

But for right now, maybe a Richard apology.

[B]

I wonder. No, see Don's. Don's moving on. I loved Don. Don's moved forward. Well, don't worry, we'll hear it from at the beginning of enn. We'll get, get you caught up. Oh no, Richard is actually on hold to Apollo. Oh my God. I'm not going to do it right now.

[C]

Tremendous.

[B]

Wait, Richard. Richard's on hold twice. This is unbelievable. It's him and the guy in the chair. They're both on hold.

[C]

Let's just, let's just stick.

[B]

All right, let's go to Pete. It's bad when you want to stick with jets calls. Let's go to Pete in Brooklyn.

[C]

Hey, Pete.

[D]

Hey, how you guys doing? Thanks. My call. Long time jets fan since 1972. I am not jumping. I bleed green and white. So we're gonna have some struggles here. And I'm riding with my jets.

[C]

God bless you, Pete. Talk about some struggles. It's been some struggles.

[A]

I'm wondering, Pete, since you became a fan in 72. Was that. Was that Unitis versus Namath game in 72, the one you over? One of the great Jet games of all time.

[B]

Let's go to James, one of the.

[A]

Last ones on Long Island.

[B]

He's got a different theory.

[A]

James.

[D]

Hey, how y' all doing? Y' all can hear me clearly?

[B]

Yeah, maybe. Best line we've had all day.

[C]

Hear me? Yes.

[D]

I appreciate that, Peter. I'm trying for you guys.

[B]

Lend your phone to Alex. Monica next time, you see.

[A]

All right, so.

[D]

So I was. I, I don't. I think it's a perfect time to get off the bandwagon or be a Get off of being a Jets fan. I looked something up online. I said, over the last 20 years, the jets now are two losses away from having 200 losses. It's a perfect time to get off. Over the last 10 years, I think they have 109 losses, 46 wins. I had friends, family, or Jet fans, and they're suffering. I see pretty much every week they're like Dave Rothenberg eating the microphone every week for the past 10 years. Save yourself. Just let it go. Enjoy your life.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Why not?

[A]

Can, can you.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Do something where you can euthanize your fandom of a team I love. Like a ceremony where you just say goodbye. Say goodbye. And then. And it's. And it's over.

[C]

So you have a funeral, essentially. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, we could probably provide a service right. Where we actually do something that's right. Where we say goodbye to the fandom. We bury it. We do something interesting and we have a big party afterward. We'll have a repast after. We'll all get together, talk about how great it was to be a fan for a time, but it was time to move on and bury it dead.

[B]

And by the way, in the case of the jets, talk about. It was never really a great time.

[A]

To talk about what a great idea it was to do this. Why didn't we do this sooner?

[C]

Yeah, I think we, I think we're onto something here.

[B]

It would be like going to a.

[A]

Funeral for somebody you hated.

[C]

Here's, here's what I'm going to do.

[B]

Do.

[C]

If the jets don't win a single game this entire season. 017. Never been done before. We will hold a funeral for my Jet fandom.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

And we will bury it. I will bring. I have one. I, I, I was gifted a couple of jerseys. I don't wear jerseys, but I have them. 1. One is a boomer Siason jersey. It's the, it's one I really like the most. Because it's a Long island guy, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I didn't get a test of verde when he's a Long island guy, too. I never got when I was older, but when Boomer was a quarterback, I was still fairly younger. I will take that and I will put it in a box and I will bury it in the ground.

[A]

And then we can have a repast after. We'll get together our food. We'll break bread.

[C]

Yeah. We'll do the whole thing. Yeah.

[A]

We'll mourn together.

[C]

Yes. Friends can come by. They can. You know, we can talk about, like the Jet fandom and the good times.

[A]

But if you were able to provide some sort of a service, like if we were able to, to rent a space and kind of make it a funeral home for fandom, I think we could do it. Get it like a picture of you as a kid in a Jet jersey.

[C]

Oh, my. Richard Todd. Absolutely.

[A]

Right there. Everybody can sign in.

[C]

Yep.

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Donate. In lieu of flowers, donate to your favorite charity, please.

[C]

Let's do that. So again, Owen, I'm on record. Oh, and 17.

[A]

It's not. I, I, I still find it difficult to believe, just because of the fact their defense has played well, that they will stumble into a couple. But hey, no. Oh, and seven. Right. You're only ten away.

[C]

Zero. Seventeen might break me.

[B]

Honestly, that could be it.

[C]

I could, I mean, that really could do it. There's so much else for me to do in my life. Other teams I could enjoy. I get mad about the Yankees because they, they get to the playoffs every year and lose. Like, like, let that be the thing I get upset about. Please. This, no, this is not worth my time. Not with a guy again at the very top of the organization. You could hire and fight. Fire everybody you want. You could get the number one pick in the draft and take a quarterback. Guess what? They're all going to fail. All are going to fail because at the very top, there is a lack of leadership. And that's the problem.

[A]

Your, your Yankee dilemma is like getting a war lanced. Right? The jets are like open heart surgery and you're not going to make it.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

We got the rib spreader and. But the Yankee stuff, forget it.

[C]

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[A]

It's so just. It's so tiresome, isn't it, Peter? What?

[B]

These things happen.

[A]

Some outlet is shutting down channels and the viewer gets held hostage. Right?

[B]

Yeah. Because, I mean, as a sports fan, to not have access to espn, I mean, respectfully, that's a tough one to have. Let's go to Richard in Rochester. Richard and Rochester. What's up, Richard?

[C]

Rochester.

[D]

Been a jet band since 1967. I was 14 years old and I checked out last year, actually.

[C]

Congrats.

[B]

God bless.

[D]

And they will, in my opinion, they will never win. With what? Woody Johnson as owner. Never. Because not only doesn't Woody know football, he doesn't know business. He's a trust fund baby who never ran a business in his life. He don't know how to run people. He don't know how to run a business. He's an imbecile. Totally. And Don, you're right. If the jets happen to do win, it won't be the same. If I see Woody holding up the super bowl trophy, it'll be a mixed bag for me.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think you have to worry about that, though.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

That's shot to be happy.

[D]

I understand where you're coming from. Thanks for the time, boys.

[C]

Thanks, Richard.

[B]

Thanks, Richard.

[C]

What he's saying. You hear what he's saying, right? It's it. It is the defeated feeling that you have. It just is. I. I can't have that hope. You know, they're already lining up all the sayings that I must repeat constantly on this show for the bingo card. And one of them that I think is actually funny because I do use it a lot, is the Lucy pulling the football away analogy.

[B]

I use that quite a bit on my podcast as well.

[C]

It's really how the. How it is life as a Jets fan. Every time you like, this time. This time, Charlie Brown, I'm going to kick this. I'm going to kick it to the moon. You just feel this time it's going to stick. This time it's going to happen. And then Vinnie Testaverde goes down and then Chad Pennington gets hurt, and then Brett Favre gets hurt. Right. It's just one after the other after the other. Then. Then what was it? Chris Jenkins gets hurt in the play. Back to back years in the playoffs. The most important defensive player you have. Like, it's all these things that happen and you just say to yourself, like why can't just. One year it just happened. It just work.

[A]

And now loose. Eventually you just stop the ball anymore.

[C]

No, no, she's not even holding.

[A]

She went home, right? She doesn't even hold somebody else.

[C]

The ball just sits on the ground and you still can't kick.

[B]

It's more like. It's more like not only does do you miss the ball, but when you land on your head, she pulls out a revolver and she.

[C]

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I wish she would.

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Sounds bad but you're right there Hit my three point in the game.

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I'm only four points back in spite.

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Of my horrifying record one good week away.

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Allen has the best score. So you can get us started on what I think is a dreadful week of picks.

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It's not easy, no doubt about that. But I'm going to go with my one pointer first out of the gate. It's an interesting game if you really think about it too when you have the, the mentor and the mentee kind of meeting each other protege if you will. The 49ers are going to Houston to play the Texans. The, the the Texans being the home team are laying a point in the half but I'm going to take the 49ers on that for my one pointer. Two really good defensive teams, two teams that that will hold hold you down in scoring but a running game on and an offense on the niner side that I think could get the best of Houston which is very mediocre at home. My two pointer is I think feels like it just, it's just it's begging me it'd be calling me and that is Atlanta. I lay seven and a half against a Dolphins team that has almost quit. They have shipped the cars. They're heading home. They are done. They have a coach who is literally he's he's walking the green mile like he we know this Tua and his teammates are looking at him side eye. That's my two pointer. Atlanta's gonna blow him out. My three pointer. You heard Alex Monaco mention it. I have this written down before he mentioned it. Him Bringing it up made me feel even better. Does anybody really think Aaron Rodgers is going to lose a game against the Green Bay Packers? His first meeting? He is at home. He is getting, he's getting two and a half points. The packers were a team that started the season out. We thought they were super bowl contenders. We thought they were going to be this great team. They have really not lived up to a lot of things this season that we thought they'd be. And I'm just going off of the emotion part of it, which I know isn't a big part of making picks like this. But I just go back again. Do we really think Aaron Rodgers is going to lose his first opportunity to face his former team? My answer is no. That's my three point play.

[A]

All right, Allen, I'm going to agree with Alex to start and as crazy as this sounds, I'm going to go with the Jets. You take a look at how bad things have been for them. They lose sauce and Wilson and the line didn't move and because they're bad. But they're also going up against the worst defense in the NFL and I do think Taylor's going to play and I do think there'll be at least an air of competence around the corner quarterback position that we haven't had when Justin Fields played since opening day. And the jets, if you look at it, they've hung in all these games. One possession, games in five of the seven losses. It's six and a half. Cincinnati stinks, jets will lose another heartbreaker. But I think they cover the six and a half. That's my one point play.

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One, two, three point play.

[A]

I think the Bucks bounce back on the road so I'm sticking with the road theme. Three and a half point favorite of the Saints. I don't think the Saints are any good unless they get turnovers, but I can't predict turnovers. I just think the Tampa is going to bounce back, get a win, cover the number on the road as my two point play and sticking on the road as my three point play. This is spitting in the face of Alex Monaco. I'm going with the Cowboys on the road in Denver against the Broncos and I'm going to tell you the hook. Broncos always win these field goal games so they'll beat the Cowboys by a field goal. But that hook is why I'm going with Dallas. Also Cowboys 30 against the spread as a dog so far this season. So Denver always keeps it close and they're coming off a miracle win and sometimes that does not age well the next week. So I'm going to go with the jets as my one point play, The Bucks is my two point play, and the Cowboys as my three. Three. Three point play.

[C]

Three, three, three, three, three.

[B]

All right. A lot has been said in this segment. Some things I agree with, some things I think I can't believe the words that are being said out loud. I'm going to start going right up against Alex Monaco and Alan Hahn. That was a cute, cute story that everyone told about the great hero Aaron Rodgers and how there's no chance he.

[C]

Can leave lose hater. I love it.

[B]

Packers are a better football.

[C]

Make it your three. Make it.

[A]

I'm, I'm not mad at this pick.

[B]

The packers are a better team. Okay, we're leaving it. I'm sorry. We, we, we watched the Steelers duel with Cincinnati before coming up short.

[C]

Give me a three.

[B]

I'm not going to give you a three because favorite pick of the day. But I, but I, I'm sorry, I just think you sound nutty. Oh. The last image I have of that game is Aaron Rodgers crying because his teammate celebrated with him too hard. Give me the Green Bay Packers, Jordan Love. They're four one and one. We're acting like they looked like super bowl contenders and they're in the doldrums now. I mean, they're still one of the best teams in football. I'll take the pack. Give me those two and a half points. I'm giving the two and a half. Doesn't matter. Yeah, I feel. Goal.

[A]

No problem.

[B]

Now here's the one where Don I thought had an aneurysm. I'm worried about him. Think he may have stroked out. I, I and he's done this before. He may not want to admit it. And who am I to talk? My records are disgusting.

[C]

Who's going to stop you from talking?

[B]

Yeah, that's right. I'm in the studio. No one can stop.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

I can't believe he touched the Jets. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to be right, but to actually choose willingly to ride with the New York Jets. I think we'll talk to him on Monday and he'll go, I'm sorry I blacked out. I don't even know what I was thinking. I hear you. Maybe things can't get any worse for the jets, but I also just watched Cincinnati last week on Thursday Night Football. They seem to know how to move that thing with Joey Flacco. And, and, and sure, they may have a horrible defense. Guess what the jets have no offense. I don't even know who's gonna be a quarterback. Give me the Bengoos. Minus six and a half. They'll cover easily. This will be one of those weeks where we're not like, oh, the jets are in it to the very end now. Won't be 27 6. Give me the Bengals and my three point play. I'm up there with Alan Hahn. I think the Falcons are actually something and they're playing a garbage football team this week. Don, I liked your Bucs pick as well. That was tempting, but you never know with those divisional matchups. I like the Falcons to cover against the crappy ass. Respectfully, Miami Dolphins. That'll be my three point play. At the packers for one, the Bengus for two and the Falcons for three. There you have it, guys. We have our picks in.

[C]

The picks are in.

[B]

Are we saying goodbye to you now, Alan?

[C]

We are. I have to run to the rink. Good luck taking a season tonight.

[A]

I saw the picture. Great job. Good luck to him, man.

[C]

You guys, I'm fired up.

[B]

Big week for Alan. He's got senior night in high school. He's got a kid playing hockey in college. It's all happening. Have fun. The Hans. Hope you have a great night. Hope you find a delicious place for dinner once the game's over.

[C]

Oh, that's definitely happening. But we first got to get to the game and just see this thing I got to see with my own eyes. Three apples. Thanks, boys.

[B]

All right, buddy. Enjoy it, my friend.

[A]

We'll be thinking about you hopping after 10, you know that?

[B]

Yeah, that's. I've heard that. All right.

[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[B]

I don't want to know how the.

[C]

Sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.