Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast

Hour 3: Jets Future (Dec 29, 2025)
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, Don La Greca
Theme: An impassioned, candid dissection of the New York Jets' dire state, the head coach’s job status, and what the future could (or should) hold for both the Jets and Giants.

Episode Overview

This episode delves deep into the ongoing crises for both New York football teams, with a particular focus on the Jets’ humiliating loss, the future of beleaguered head coach Aaron Glenn, and whether there’s any hope for “culture change.” The discussion is raw, mixing biting fan frustration, expertise, and call-in reactions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Giants and Jets Draft Implications

• Giants’ recent win: Snapped a nine-game skid but complicated their draft positioning; there’s still a scenario where they could land the No.1 overall pick if various results fall into place ([01:53]).
• Strategic losing: Mixed feelings on “tanking” for draft picks; fans divided on needing a win for morale vs. long-term franchise-building ([03:33],[05:57]).

2. Jets’ Embarrassing Loss & State of the Roster

• Latest loss recap: Jets were outclassed 42-10; symptomatic of season-long woes. Rosenberg describes the fiasco and culture of disappointment ([05:57]).
  • “You’ve been outscored by 107 points in your last 16 quarters… the worst team in football. Not the Browns, not the Raiders, not the Giants. The New York Jets.” – Rosenberg ([06:24])
• Issues cited: Roster construction, quarterback play, and especially head coach Aaron Glenn’s inability to turn things around or inspire pride.

3. Aaron Glenn as Head Coach: Is the Criticism Fair?

• Glenn’s postgame comments: Played a clip of Glenn remaining positive despite the blowout ([10:09]) – the hosts find it hard to reconcile this optimism with what the fans see.
• Media & fan frustration:
  • “You can’t be mean and stink.” – Rosenberg ([33:06])
  • Glenn’s combative posture with the media is called counterproductively “unnecessary”; contrast drawn with Mike Brown of the Knicks in terms of composure ([15:04]).
  • Questions about whether he “gets” New York and its media/market expectations.

4. Fans’ Perspectives: Calls & Counterpoints

• Divided fan base:
  • Some callers say Glenn inherited junk and deserves time; others point to front office/player trades as proof of failure ([21:12],[22:01]).
  • Dan Campbell comparisons: Both hosts and callers (esp. Dove in Boston [30:12]) are vehement that “Glenn is not Campbell”—the Lions coach showed humility and care from day one, whereas Glenn comes off as defensive and borderline arrogant.
• What Jets fans want:
  • Honest communication, effort, and at minimum, not being embarrassed every Sunday ([35:20], [34:43]).
  • Memorable Moment: Intense caller Ted goes off on “false hope” wins – “I want to literally rip out every last hair I have left. And I’m bald!” ([45:19])

5. Coaching in New York: What Works, What Doesn’t

• Handling media pressure:
  • Examples like Tom Thibodeau (Knicks) praised for honesty, consistency – “Be who you are,” but don’t BS ([18:14]).
  • Critique of prior coaches (Aaron Boone, Rex Ryan) for how their candor or lack thereof played into public/trust perception.

6. The Cycle of Futility and Leadership Accountability

• Jets as a “coaching graveyard”:
  • Listeners fear the cycle—bad hire, impulsive firing, rinse/repeat. Fan Boogie Down Jay predicts the “vote of confidence” before another inevitable axing ([40:28]).
  • “The green and white merry-go-round. I’ve been on for the past 40 years.” – Boogie Down Jay ([40:28])
• Is there any happy medium?
  • Discussion on whether stripping Glenn of power would help (“no,” say hosts—ownership needs to pick a lane and stick with it) ([25:04]).

7. The Value of 'Effort' and Moral Victories

• Differing opinions:
  • Some argue a “hard-fought loss” is better than a hollow W ([08:38]).
  • Tessa in West Caldwell offers a rare positive spin: “It was nice to get that winning feeling. Nobody wants to keep losing all the time.” ([36:04])
  • Ted, a caller, rebuts: “All we had to do was hang on to the rope one more week. And lose. But no, they win that meaningless game. I want to literally rip out every last hair I have left. And I’m bald.” ([45:19])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jets as worst team:
  “You watch that product yesterday and feel a sense of pride. Hell no.” – Rosenberg ([06:24])
• On Glenn’s postgame attitude:
  “If you didn’t know that sound bite was Aaron Glenn off a shellacking, you’d be like… little bit of stoicism… but you look at the box score, you got annihilated.” – Monaco ([11:12])
• On coaching in NY:
  “People underrate this market. We sniff out BS. We’re like sharks. We will be rooting for you, but the moment there’s a slip up—aha, got him!” – Rosenberg ([15:04])
• On fans using Dan Campbell as a comparison:
  “Anytime I hear anyone make the Jets-Lions comparison, I get agitated. You had Jared Goff… my skin crawls.” – Rosenberg ([33:33])
• On effort and accountability for a coach:
  “You can control effort and you can control hustle… those are the things I’m not seeing with Jets football.” – Monaco ([20:46])
• Caller Ted’s epic rant:
  “To have a take that says that you’re happy about that win is absolutely insane. …I literally want to rip out every last hair I have left. And I’m bald.” ([45:19])
• On what New York wants from its coaches:
  “If Aaron Glenn on the podium yesterday was like: ‘Arguably the most lethargic, mail-it-in effort I’ve ever seen in the history of football. I promise that won’t happen again.’ That’s all New Yorkers want.” – Monaco ([48:04])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:53] Giants draft implications and scenarios
• [05:57] Jets-Patriots loss: tone set for ownership and coaching criticism
• [10:09] Aaron Glenn’s locker room “belief” comments dissected by hosts
• [14:57] Handling media and the expectations for head coaches in NY
• [21:12] Caller Corey: Is it too soon to fire Glenn?
• [22:55] Debate: Dan Campbell vs. Aaron Glenn, why comparisons don’t fit
• [35:20] Caller John, Forest Hills, on uninspired Jets play
• [36:04] Caller Tessa brings a rare bit of optimism
• [45:19] Caller Ted’s fiery takedown of “false hope” wins
• [46:00] Mike Tannenbaum’s “incomplete” grade for Glenn as coach

Final Thoughts

The episode captures peak New York sports frustration—no patience for “culture-building” platitudes, even less for perceived arrogance or media BS from coaches whose teams are getting steamrolled. The hosts and callers agree: the Jets are at rock bottom. Accountability, authenticity, and a clear vision are in short supply, with the fanbase existentially weary of the team’s endless coaching carousel.

New York football, in the words of host Rosenberg, “sniffs out BS.” Until the Jets and Giants show real progress—on the field and behind the microphones—expect more episodes just like this one.

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