Hour 3: Jets Suffering

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast – Jets Suffering (Hour 3)

Date: September 30, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Theme: Navigating religious observance during playoff season, New York Jets fandom agony, and reflections on sports, faith, and resilience.

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Episode Overview

Hour 3 delivers the core of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg’s appeal: lively, self-deprecating takes on sports pain (notably the Jets), a candid discussion on religious obligations during playoff games, and the existential dread (and hope) of rooting for long-suffering teams. The trio, plus a handful of passionate callers, move fluidly from Yom Kippur etiquette for Yankee fans, comparative suffering as sports and religious minorities, to dissecting the Jets’ ongoing woes and the broader spiritual questions that fandom evokes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Yankees Playoffs, October Weather, and Holiday Scheduling

• [00:44–02:43] The hosts set the scene: fall baseball in New York, with unseasonably warm weather creating a bizarre October vibe.
  • “Looking at the overhead shot of Yankee Stadium… it’s not going to have that October nip in the air.” – Don Hahn ([00:44])
  • They joke about weather and how it doesn’t feel like playoff season.

Yom Kippur vs. Yankees Playoff Dilemma

• [02:10–05:07] The scheduling conflict: game time overlaps with Yom Kippur, creating turmoil for observant Jewish Yankee fans.
  • Explanation: Peter Rosenberg details the seriousness of the holiday—fasting, no electronics, no TV.
    “From the second sundown tomorrow hits till sundown the next night, there’s nothing.” – Peter Rosenberg ([03:09])
  • “Some…will call in, sort of stressing. My guess is the move for some will be turning on the TV or radio tomorrow afternoon before leaving it on and then leaving it on for 24 hours…cheat the system that way.” – Peter ([04:35])
  • The group riffs on “religious loopholes” (having a neighbor turn on a radio or TV), with Peter doubting the integrity of such workarounds.

Religious “A la Carte” and Minority Guilt

• [05:29–08:56] Nuanced, humorous talk about selective observance:
  • Peter: “Michael believes … there’s no such thing as a la carte religion. You either do it as the rabbis would do, or just sit.” ([03:00])
  • The hosts compare religious pressures, especially for minority faiths:
    “When you’re not the main religion, there’s an obligation… that I feel…There’s a certain level of guilt to it.” – Peter ([06:52])
  • Christianity vs. Judaism work holiday dynamics discussed.

Personal Faith and Mind-Your-Business Approach

• [09:09–10:21] Don shares his philosophy:
  • “I have a personal relationship with God, and it’s none of your business. That’s what I do. I do it my way.” – Don Hahn ([09:21])
  • The group agrees; if only everyone were live-and-let-live.

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2. Philosophy, Afterlife, and the “Sports Commandments” Bit

• [10:33–13:15] The conversation spins off into metaphysical and comedic tangents:
  • They joke about religious unknowns and tie it back to sports fandom—“You were a Jets fan. You’ve already been in hell.” ([10:28])
  • Discuss the film Defending Your Life (Albert Brooks) as a metaphor for judgment and self-reflection.
  • “Fantastic Albert Brooks vehicle…” ([10:49])
  • The concept: being judged for “fraud alert Friday” and sports sins as if they're spiritual ones.

Callers Weigh In – Real-Life Yom Kippur Sports Protocol

• [12:25–16:14] Levi and others share how religious Jews in NY prioritize faith over baseball, with synagogue security guards serving as covert score updaters.
  • “I’m still human. But once Yom Kippur is over, we tune back in. Wherever we’re holding, we’re holding.” – Levi ([13:08])

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3. Sports Commandments & The Ten Actual Ones

• [15:53–20:14] The hosts debate which Ten Commandments are “actually kept,” veering between irreverence and insight.
  • “You talk about a la carte. The Ten Commandments are ala cart.” – Don ([16:27])
  • “Thou shalt not kill…That’s number one, right? …We break that a lot, don’t we?” – Peter & Rosenberg ([16:21])
  • They joke about how “coveting” is social media’s entire business model and note even following lesser commandments could make us better, happier people.

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4. Jet Fan Misery: Catharsis and Comparison

• [20:36–27:01] Heart of the episode—caller “Danny” gives a confession of Jets pain:
  • “What is wrong with me?…I battled…traffic to get home for that game. For what? What in God’s name is wrong with me?” – Danny ([22:01])
  • The hosts empathize, likening Jets fandom to spiritual suffering and discuss parallels to long-suffering teams like the Lions and the Patriots before their turnarounds.
  • Don preaches hope but warns: “Might not be in this century. But don’t throw the guy away through four games.” ([23:02])

On Perseverance and Pacing Yourself as a Fan

• [25:41–36:15] Callers urge patience with the Jets. The hosts debate QB performance and the franchise’s inability to develop quarterbacks:
  • “Jets are just not a place where quarterbacks thrive…just not an atmosphere for a quarterback to grow. And it hasn’t changed.” – Don ([41:11])
  • They show skepticism over Fields and current Jets QB projections.
  • “He has not been an embarrassment, but…you said we found a quarterback. No, you haven’t.” – Don ([30:13])
  • Peter: “I went from thinking he had something to what I’ve seen has made me think he could be a nice little backup for you. He’s not the guy.” ([31:00])

“Fraud Pass” for Jet Suffering

• [32:00–33:16]
  • Peter: “Wouldn’t you give it for this season? If someone says, hey, this weekend my kid has a thing…” ([32:24])

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5. The Anatomy of Jets and Mets Futility

• [40:49–44:46]
  • Callers reflect on ex-Jets QBs finding success elsewhere.
  • Don: “Every time you try to bring somebody in…right now it looks like it’s not working with Fields, maybe it will, but God…” ([41:11])
  • Peter: “Sam…is now thriving with another franchise. Two other franchises since he’s left. Thriving.” ([42:17])

Top 5 “Jetsiest” Moments

• [43:36–45:34]
  • They rank infamously embarrassing (often bizarre) moments: from the “Butt Fumble” to Sam Darnold’s mononucleosis.
  • Don: “The reason the butt fumble resonates is because you never saw anything like that before. Guys tear their Achilles, right? It just happens…You don’t see guys run into their own offensive lineman’s butt on Thanksgiving…” ([43:53])

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6. Final Thoughts & Baseball Fast Takes

• [47:01–47:20]
  • As Yankees-Red Sox game looms: Peter calls for a “big Judge performance.”
  • Don: “All the games right here. Coming up next, it’s the Yankees and the Red Sox game one. We’ll break it all down for you tomorrow…” ([47:16])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Yom Kippur and Baseball:
  “You could have your neighbor come turn on your radio…this is where I get into religion being a joke, right? Because if you’re doing a thing where your neighbor cheat[s] the system for you…isn't this now? Yo, yo, yo.” – Peter Rosenberg ([05:08])
• On Personal Spirituality:
  “I have a personal relationship with God, and it’s none of your business. That’s what I do.” – Don Hahn ([09:21])
• Existential Doubt:
  “There’s a chance when every one of us that eats meat…we’re getting up there…He goes, hold on. Were you eating all the little animals? Yeah. What do you think, I made those beautiful animals send them right to hell…and we’re all going to hell, right? We don’t know.” – Peter Rosenberg ([09:54])
• Jets Fandom Despair:
  “What is wrong with me?...I want to get home for the game, babe. I want to make a little dinner. What is wrong with me? What in God’s name…?” – Danny, Jets fan ([22:01])
• Sports & Faith Intertwined:
  “If I were somehow to document all the fraud stuff…asteroid hits the planet a thousand years from now, they discover this and confuse me talking about sports as, like, a religion…” – Don Hahn ([15:02])
• Hope for Jets Fans:
  “Don’t throw the guy away through four games. The day's gonna come…might not be in this century.” – Don ([23:02])
• Ala Carte Religion/Commandments:
  “You talk about a la carte. The Ten Commandments are ala cart.” – Don ([16:27])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Yankees Playoff Weather Chat: [00:44–01:58]
• Yom Kippur Dilemma for Fans: [02:10–05:07]
• Religious Observance & Guilt: [05:29–08:56]
• Personal Faith Stance: [09:09–10:21]
• Afterlife/Sports as Judgment: [10:33–13:15]
• Caller Levi on Yom Kippur Routine: [12:25–13:47]
• Sports Commandments & Ten Commandments Bit: [15:53–20:14]
• Jets Fan Despair (Danny): [20:36–23:44]
• Jets, QBs, and Development Issues: [30:37–36:15]
• “Fraud Pass” for Fans: [32:00–33:16]
• Failings of the Jets Franchise: [40:49–44:15]
• “Jetsiest” Moments: [43:36–45:34]
• Preview Yankees-Red Sox, Final Chatter: [47:01–end]

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Tone & Takeaway

The episode is a masterclass in blending local sports grief, NY Jewish identity, and classic sports radio banter. It's therapy for the battered fan: empathetic, witty, at times existential, ultimately resilient.

If you’re a Jets fan, a Yankees diehard conflicted by the High Holidays, or just someone who’s ever questioned the meaning of it all—this is your hour.

Transcript

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501 in the big city. Don Hahn and Rosenberg just looking at the overhead shot of Yankee Stadium fans beginning to file in six o', clock, game one. We've already got a game in the books as the Tigers hold on, beat the Guardians two to one. So Cleveland's facing elimination tomorrow. Cubs. They're up two to one.

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Seventh inning.

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And so these one out. The first two games have been outstanding so far. Low scoring, good pitching. That's kind of what you expect.

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So tonight at the stadium, yes, as you know, like Nelly was talking about, it's true, we felt that today we hit 80 degrees again today in New York City, but it's, it's, it's not going to have that, that October, you know, little nip in the air, but you know, 70, 68 degrees, it's comfortable, right?

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You know, it's interesting, is just the way things. It's still September.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Like a year ago today was that double header the Mets played against the Braves. So it was the Monday after the season. I was in la, you know, so we're so, so. And then, so there was the, the next day, the season, it was October 1st and. But he's right, it's like 85 degrees. It doesn't fit.

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Over tomorrow night because tomorrow night, to.

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Me, give me something, give me, feed me 61, 80 degrees.

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Today is the last we'll see of 80.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

We're not getting over 70 for the rest of the week.

[D]

Oh, you kidding me?

[C]

Tomorrow night, low 60s.

[D]

I got to tell you guys, tomorrow night's gonna be a complicated evening for some of the Jewish Yankee fans in the world.

[B]

It does, it does happen every year, right?

[D]

Not always. No, not always. But tomorrow, it's the start of Yom Kippur, which is like the holiest 24 hour period of the year. And it basically will include. You generally have to have dinner. The final meal before the fast is on the early side, like right around first pitch. Now, some people who aren't even generally that religious, believe me, I relate. Don't watch TV on the holidays either. Now if you're not really that religious and you're a Yankee fan, I'm sure you're putting that aside this year.

[C]

Put the radio on or just literally.

[D]

No listen, you'd have to be pretty technology. We definitely have people religious enough that they're going to miss both games.

[B]

Now what is the they're going to.

[D]

Miss tomorrow and most of the next? What is the law?

[B]

Like, what is the way it's supposed to be done?

[D]

Listen, this is the part where Michael gets upset because Michael believes that there's no such thing as a la carte religion. You either have to do it as the rabbis would do or just sit.

[B]

Out on the rabbis do. That's what I'm asking.

[D]

Yeah, the rabbis are not. From the second sundown tomorrow hits till sundown the next night, there's nothing.

[C]

What do you mean?

[D]

No electronics, no engaging with any sort of anything.

[B]

But how did they start pretty electronics?

[D]

How to start pre electronics? Yeah, like it meant just. It's a time to reflect and do nothing, pray.

[C]

So essentially like literally nothing. Cuz you said don't engage with anything.

[D]

Yes. Now other people. No, no, no. You, you, you could engage other people. You could go to synagogue, you could take a walk during the day.

[C]

It's a 24 hour fast.

[D]

It's full 24 hour fast. A lot of people will go to like a body of water and there's like a tradition where you might rip off pieces of challah bread. Like you're throwing your sins in the water. And you throw your sins in the water. But again, it all depends on how religious you are. For me, my thing I try to do is just not engage with work or social media and things like that and reflect.

[C]

It's gonna be tough for you.

[D]

It is hard for me. But I am going to try. I'm going to delete the apps for that day. I'm just gonna delete the app.

[C]

Delete the app?

[D]

Yeah. I can't scroll in Instagram reels and pretend like I'm having a day of work.

[C]

You see people be like, hey guys, you know, just fasting right here, really reflect.

[D]

I've never done that. I've never done that. You know, it's a good point though. If I did it in advance, if I did it in advance and timed it, you could set the timer to do it.

[C]

Hey guys, just, just fasting right now just really reflecting on life.

[D]

So I'm not worried about people like me because I'm, like, open with my fraudulence. It's the other people, though, who are both simultaneously pretty significantly religious and also religious about the Yankees. I'm sure they'll call us. They're the ones right now, sort of stressing. And my guess is the move for some will be turning on the TV or radio tomorrow afternoon before leaving it on and then leaving it on for 24 hours. I think you can cheat the system that way.

[C]

But they consider that cheating, right? That's cheating, too.

[D]

Well, it depends.

[C]

What if you asked your neighbor, that's a thing to put the radio on.

[D]

Confirm that's a thing.

[C]

Loud. And I'll just sit by the window.

[D]

No, no, you can have your radio. Your neighbor come turn on your radio.

[C]

Isn't there a name for it?

[D]

I literally. So this is where.

[B]

Sounds like it'd be a nice side business.

[D]

So this is where I get into religion being.

[C]

You want me to come over?

[D]

This is where I get into religion being a joke.

[B]

Right?

[D]

Because if you're doing a thing where you're having your neighbor cheat the system for you. Aren't we now? Isn't this. Isn't this now?

[C]

Yo.

[D]

Yo.

[C]

Yeah, of course it's yo.

[B]

That's what Michael was talking about. A la carte.

[D]

No, no. See, Michael's about something different, though, because the most religious people do this nonsense I'm talking about. Michael would get mad at me because, for example, I observe Yom Kippur, but I don't observe tuba shvat or whatever the other holiday you haven't heard of is. And I'm just trying to explain, like, but, Don, you're a Catholic. Are you doing much besides Easter and Christmas?

[B]

No.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

But here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[D]

That's what we do.

[B]

But Michael and I always argued with you, like, you'll take those holidays off.

[D]

Just Yom Kippur, okay? No Russia show. I work for Russia's on it.

[B]

And because you're like, well, Don, you don't work Christmas because they offer me the day off. But if the NHL was like the NBA and they played on Christmas, like, Alan's got Christmas.

[C]

I did last year. I called the game at the Garden.

[B]

If the house in the Morning Devils had a game on Christmas, I'd work it. Well, I wouldn't go to the. I wouldn't go to MSG and say, listen, it's Christmas. I'm not working. Yeah, I've always Worked on the holidays because it was always a time and.

[C]

A half or NBA always plays on Easter.

[B]

The full.

[C]

And I work on Easter.

[B]

The full timers would take off, and that would be my chance to try to impress and do shows or work like. So I'm only taking those holidays off as a Christian because they're offered to me.

[D]

Can I make a complicated, nuanced point, though, that you couldn't do most places, but I think here we're intelligent enough to do it. And this is where the nuance comes to being. No, no, it's not that complicated.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

But, like, here's the thing about being Jewish versus being Christian. And I wonder, I don't know, maybe Muslims feel the same way. When you're not the main religion that most are, there's an obligation. Just being honest, that I feel my parents. It's been instilled in me, if you are a proud Jewish person, to just work through Yom Kippur. There's a. There's a. There's a certain level of guilt to it. Like, I'm the Jewish guy. I shouldn't be on the air on Yom Kippur now. I'm not going to lie to you guys. If it was the world's biggest thing, they said, we're launching the new signal that day and we're all coming together. Am I going to work that day? Yes, I probably am. But on a given regular, every year that day comes, you feel a sense of obligation, if you're a proud person, to say this is the one day of the year where you demonstrate your Jewishness. I know it may sound silly, but I don't think that same pressure always applies to people who are not of a minority religious group. You don't feel a need to. For people to know. It's. It's. It's hard to explain.

[B]

Depends on how you grow up. I mean, my grandmother didn't like that I worked on Christmas. I had to try to explain to her.

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She said, this is SportsPhone. These people need these scores. Yeah, but these scores aren't gonna read themselves, Grandma, you know?

[B]

No, there's a lot. It depends on how. It's complex. There's Russian Orthodox guilt, there's Muslim guilt. But what it really is parents guilting their kids. Not even religion. It's just to kill your kids.

[C]

It's the message I get on Ash Wednesday. If we have a game that night and I'm on the air and she's, where's your ashes? And I'm like, well, I had to Wipe them off. I'm going on the air. Like, you don't want to see it. Some people do it, though, now I've noticed it's become a thing where some people leave them on.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, all right, so should I do that?

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's because I. Usually I'll get the ashes and I'll. You know. But if I have to go on the air, it's like, all right. I don't want to be a distraction. I just, you know. And then I realized, like, wait, Other people are leaving the ashes on? I guess maybe I should. And everybody will know what it is. Right. But some people do try to fast during the 40 days of Lent.

[D]

And then there's that fasting during the 40 days of Lent. Well, I should do it just for dietary purposes.

[B]

Well, the other thing. No, like. Like what you give up full fast.

[C]

Think about it. How. Think how skinny you'd be if you just turned Catholic.

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40 days.

[C]

Oh, yeah. You'd be. You'd be in great shape.

[D]

You feel good now, Don, you're not an ash guy, right?

[B]

I am not an ash guy. I was when I went to Catholic school. And we go. During.

[D]

He retired from the ash.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, here's. Here's religion to me in a nutshell.

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Go ahead.

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I have a personal relationship with God, and it's none of your business.

[C]

Yeah. I like that.

[B]

That's what I do.

[C]

I like that.

[B]

I don't. I. I don't. I don't care. I'm not a big recruiter.

[D]

I'm good.

[B]

I. I do it my way.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And that's the way it is.

[D]

I 100 agree.

[C]

We should always be like that in everything.

[B]

I just.

[D]

That's why so many things.

[C]

If only we were all like that. About everything I believe in.

[B]

I think I got it figured out. And when we're all dead, we'll find out who was right. Right. We're gonna find out. Or, you know, I'm dead wrong. Or you know what they'll be like, Don, you had it, boy. You had. You knew. How'd you know?

[D]

I always joke about that. That my thing is, we all do these religious things. We think we know we're doing the right thing. There's a chance. There's one thing. Like, we're all getting wrong. Like there's a chance when every one of us that eats meat, we're getting up there and a good time to meet the Lord. And he goes, hold on. Were you eating all the little animals? Yeah. What do you think I made those beautiful animals send them right to hell? And we're all going to hell, right? We don't know.

[B]

Listen, you killed the trees for paper.

[C]

Wait, wait.

[D]

For paper? You think it was that important that you had to write your silly little human ideas on the paper? You killed my trees.

[C]

Listen.

[D]

Gone.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Then he'll go. Then he'll go, oh, you were a Jets fan. You've already been in hell.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. You know what?

[B]

It's another. They should change its limbo, right?

[D]

Purgatory.

[B]

No, there's purgatory, where you get punished for what you did wrong before you can go to heaven. Then there's limbo, where they're not really sure where to put you.

[D]

Defending your life.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Fantastic Albert Brooks vehicle.

[B]

If you haven't seen it, it is so underrated. It might be one of the most underrated movies.

[D]

Couldn't agree more.

[B]

Ever made.

[D]

If you've never seen. Never seen an Allen?

[C]

No.

[D]

Oh, Alan, it's funny, but it's not.

[B]

Even about it being funny.

[D]

It's about how it makes your brain funny.

[B]

You took an angle on death that I don't think anybody's ever taken before, but it really makes you think. It's well written. It's well acted.

[D]

Essentially, you go to purgatory and you get a lawyer, and the lawyer represents you and tries to prove to God and everybody else why you deserve to either keep living, go to heaven or go to hell. And in doing so, the lawyer can pull up your history and show it to the courtroom on the screen. So they literally show, like, Albert Brooks's character the most cowardice moment of his life, and he has to sit there and watch as a child, this cowardice moment where you're just cringing at the things that you've done.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

It's pretty amazing. Okay, go watch it if you get a chance.

[B]

It is really.

[D]

And I just have a neighbor turn it on for you on the holiday.

[B]

And one of the funniest things is the Past Lives Pavilion, because you. You do have previous lives, and you get to go to this place.

[C]

Oh, reincarnation.

[B]

You get to see what you were before.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And because he's such a slob, like, he. He gets, like, eaten by a dinosaur or something. No matter what life he was in.

[D]

He was, like, the same guy, but just.

[B]

But just in different eras of the planet.

[D]

It was it.

[B]

I'm a big Albert Brooks fan.

[D]

Oh, he's a genius.

[B]

Again, don't feel bad. Nobody really knows about this Movie, but it is absolutely terrific.

[C]

It sounds very interesting.

[B]

Levi's in Brooklyn. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, man?

[A]

Hey, how you doing?

[D]

Good.

[B]

What's going on?

[A]

Good. So I just want to give some perspective. Love the show, by the way. I'm a religious juror in Brooklyn. The religion comes first, the Yankees second, and your show third. But there's an unsung hero. I agree with Peter that, you know, if you're listening to the radio through your neighbor's window, that doesn't count. That's four. But the unsung heroes are the security guards in the synagogue who have all us religious guys say, hey, what's the score?

[B]

Any update?

[A]

Any update happening all over town when these games are being played on Yom Kippur?

[D]

So what are you doing, by the way, as a religious Jew? What is your plan for the next two days?

[A]

Well, tonight, obviously, we dialed into the.

[D]

Game, locked in, no problems there.

[A]

And for Wednesday, tomorrow evening, it's just. It's a bifold. I'm going to be thinking about it here and there. I'm still human. But once Yom Kippur is over, we tune back in. Wherever we're holding, we're holding.

[D]

So you won't know what happens? Oh, no. You could ask someone. You'll ask someone.

[A]

I could ask someone. So some people will get the newspaper delivered on Thursday morning and, you know, we'll get to, you know, get to speak in synagogue and say, hey, did you see anything? So by the time Yom Kippur is over on Thursday evening, I'll probably know the score and what's. What happened in Game 2, but I wouldn't have seen a highlight. I wouldn't know anything else. I wouldn't know any, like, updates to injuries or changes.

[D]

I truly hope. Thank you for the call leave. I really hope that when you go, when you get up to the Pearly gates, God appreciates this level of commitment. Because if it was, if it was a commander's playoff game, guys, I'm be honest, it'd be tough.

[B]

But I admire the people that are committed to that. I think that if it's important to them. David Nakar, you're on ESPN New York. What's up, Dave?

[A]

Hey, boys. How you doing? Good, good, good. I want to thank you first off for talking about Yum Kippur. Appreciate it. I hope everybody has a healthy, prosperous, sweet new Year. And Peter, I just want to gently, gently, I believe, correct you. I believe you're talking about Tashlik, which is the Practice of throwing the bread into the water for your sins. You cannot. You cannot do that on Yom Kippur.

[D]

It's on Rosh Hashanah the week before.

[A]

Correct? And. Yeah, that's correct. And some other loopholes around where you could do it afterward as well, but not on the day of. Not during Yom Kippur. You cannot do it that day. So I want to make sure that you don't do it on Yom Kippur.

[D]

I would hate a faulty tashlich. And that's my mistake. It's been a few years since I came to New York. I haven't really found my own synagogue yet. I suppose now that I have the baby, we have to do that. So I'm out of practice.

[B]

I was just thinking, you know how sports is a religion to people, right? And if I were somehow to document all the fraud stuff, and if they had. And if you documented. If you kept notes on fraud alert Friday. Right. And then asteroid hits the planet a thousand years from now, they discover this and confuse me. Talking about sports as, like, a religion. And you'd be like, God and people. They'd be like, no, you're not allowed to wear the jersey of a team that's in your division.

[C]

Don's Commanders.

[B]

You're not allowed. You're not. You're not allowed to root for multiple teams in your same community.

[D]

By the way, these are Don. Yeah, we need these.

[B]

Just a big misunderstanding, you know, like. And that'd be, like, a good movie premise.

[C]

How about tomorrow's top five? Tomorrow's list is Don's. Right? Don.

[D]

Five rules.

[C]

Don's Sports Commandments. Thou shalt not.

[B]

I don't know. I feel. I kind of uncomfortable. It's.

[D]

No.

[B]

A little bit too close.

[C]

I know. I think you do it.

[D]

The five sports commandments.

[C]

God complex.

[D]

And what's number one?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Let's be honest. Thou shalt not kill. I don't. That's number one, right?

[C]

Yeah. We're really bad. We break that a lot, don't we?

[D]

I have it personally.

[C]

Well, I'm saying as a people.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You talk about a la carte. The Ten Commandments are ala cartel cart.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Come on. I don't think he put them in a top 10 order. These are the 10, but one was okay.

[C]

We do a lot of coveting.

[D]

Isn't there one about talking badly about people?

[C]

Probably.

[D]

We don't even know. I think. I think. I think smirching is in there.

[B]

You know what?

[C]

We. We could really go back and if you check all 10. Is there one that people really do abide with?

[D]

I'm looking at.

[C]

Is there what? Just one that. It's like nobody does that.

[D]

Hold on. Done. Your top five, top five commandments, what are the five you actually honor? What are the ten? Here we go. All right. I don't.

[C]

I don't want to keep going with the call.

[B]

I don't steal. I don't kill. Something just happened. I'm going to kill somebody.

[D]

No, he didn't say. He'll talk about it.

[C]

Gonna.

[B]

I want to kill him. I want to strangle him.

[D]

Hold on. No other gods. Okay. Some people follow that one.

[B]

I don't follow.

[C]

No.

[D]

Thou shalt not make.

[C]

Ed Crane. Pool is your God.

[D]

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image. How about a new commandment? Can you use English? We understand. I don't know.

[C]

How about English?

[B]

Things adjust so we translate. Is that no false idols?

[D]

Basically, that's false idols.

[C]

False idols.

[D]

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain.

[B]

Forget it. Done.

[C]

Good Lord. We're bad at that.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. You take a Michael K. Won't say the F word. He's using the Lord's name in vain. Every day.

[C]

Every day.

[D]

I don't read every day, but a lot. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. Some.

[B]

Some people do that good.

[D]

Honor they. Thy father and thy mother. Some do it well. Yeah. Like in Don's house. Don did.

[C]

Dave, not so much.

[A]

6.

[D]

Thou shall not kill. Right To Alan's point. Personally, most of us do well with it. Societally, not good.

[B]

It's. It's. It's strange that it took till six to throw that one out.

[C]

That feels like an option.

[D]

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Go ahead. All right.

[C]

That one probably is the one. You might as well just erase.

[B]

I have not. I. I have not.

[C]

God bless you.

[D]

But it's been done.

[B]

No, it's been done. Yeah, it's right now. I'm not saying I'm better. Listen, a lot of it's opportunity I have not done.

[D]

All right. Thou shalt not steal.

[C]

Yeah, I have.

[B]

I have never stolen anything, really.

[D]

Never knowingly.

[A]

For me.

[D]

So I am not a stealer. But I have had, like one or two moments. There was a moment at WPGC, my first radio station, where, like, there were some DJs who left their records there for, like, years on end. And I remember that's not stealing. At some point I was like, it's been too many years and I need it.

[B]

But the fact that you waited that Long.

[D]

Thank you. I tried nine. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. What does that mean? Anthony, you're the most religious school.

[C]

Lying about something that. Don't lie on people saying somebody did something that they didn't do, blaming them for something that isn't.

[D]

So don't lie on people.

[B]

Right. Don't accuse people of things they didn't do.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then covet thy neighbor's house nor anything that is thy neighbors. That's a tough one.

[B]

That's a tough one because we're all covenant. Because that's envy. Right. That's a beautiful one. Keeping up with the Joneses, that's almost a driving force. Right. Don't you think that's trying to be.

[D]

As good as we are breaking that?

[C]

That's broken on social media on a.

[D]

Day, every moment you open the app.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

And it's funny, you know, again, I'm not a religious guy, but you follow some of these ones, particularly the big picture ones or whatever. They're obvious. It's the smaller ones that I'm not even worried about you being a good moral person. If you followed the smaller ones, you'd be a happier person. You'd be a better person for yourself.

[C]

Well, three one, three one Cubs, by the way, now this show does so many.

[B]

I wasn't. I didn't have this on my bingo card.

[C]

You didn't know this, this, this was not expected, but fun.

[D]

Three topics.

[C]

I just wanted to update that. So Cubs, Cubs opening up a two run lead on the Padres.

[B]

Let's go to a Danny in center point. You're on espn, New York. What's up, Danny? Hey, Danny.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[A]

You know, specifically you, Allen.

[C]

Did you take the flag down? You took it down.

[A]

You know, I didn't, Allen, but that's my point in the call. Like, when do I get a chance to make a phone call to you guys and feel good and rejoice and feel positive? Right? We talked about this last week. I didn't have expectations just like you, Allen. But show me something. Give me something. Resemble a team that gets what your coach is trying to sell and we're not getting it. Man, it is a disgrace. Again. On Monday night we football. How many times, Alan, have we seen it where we're completely embarrassed in front of the nation and people must scratch their heads and say, how the heck does anybody root for this team? You know, let me just tell you something real quick, guys. This is how sick and what a moron I am. Okay, first off, the last enjoyment that I had with this team. I took the ride up to Buffalo in 2015 thinking that we could make the playoffs. That is the last little bit.

[C]

That's the kick in the nuts right there. Oh, my God.

[A]

So that's the last little enjoyment that this team even remotely has given me. And that is 10 years ago to this point, right? Yesterday. I'm cruising home, Alan, and I can appreciate it because you're saying you go to see your daughter and play at St. Anthony's by the way, Alan, what does she play? Lacrosse.

[B]

Volleyball.

[C]

Volleyball.

[A]

Volleyball. Okay, so my daughter was a pitcher for softball. She's in South Carolina. University of South Carolina. I went to the Gamecocks game, and I'm cruising home yesterday after 12 hours, and I want to stop. And my wife looks at me and says, you're. You're not going to stop, babe, at all. Like you're really going to do this. I said, you know what? I want to get home for the game, babe. I want to make a little dinner. What is wrong with me? What in God's name is what? I tried to fight New Jersey traffic to court Bronx to come out to our sound, right? Because you know where I'm from. And I battle this whole thing to get home for that game. For what? For what? What God's name is wrong with me?

[B]

I don't. I'm going to try to make you feel better, Danny. And then this is not performative, and I'll probably be dead wrong because history is not on my side with this. But when Dan Campbell took over the Lions, the Lions were the jets, right? They'll never make the playoffs. Hadn't been in a championship game in 30 something years, hadn't won a playoff game God knows how long, right? And they went 1 in 15. And lion fans are like, here we go again. We got the wrong.

[C]

Oh, you said the biting kneecaps.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to bite kneecaps. This guy's a yo, yo. And now they haven't won yet, but they're a perennial playoff team. That's what you got to hope that eventually at some point, they're going to get it right. It's got to be New England Patriots went year. Like the New England Patriots are always the team that you forgot when you listed teams back in the day. I joke with Peter that they put the. They put it said Patriots outside the end zone like it was a joke. And then they get Parcells and Belichick and Brady and they win. People wearing bags on it. The day's gonna come I don't know, it might be after you're dead, it might be after your kids are dead. It might be, might not be in this century. But don't throw the guy away through four games.

[C]

All right, well, listen, listen, don't do it. This is what you have to brace for. Which is probably why I went into this season with that. Just not letting myself get caught up. Dan Campbell's first season, they lost the first eight games. Then they had a bye week. Their first non loss was a tie out of the bye week. Tie. 16, 16. Then they lost two more. Oh, 10 and 1. Until they finally won a damn game. They ended up winning three that season. So they won three of their last, what, seven games?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Or six games. So they three and three to finish. But that's kind of what you're hoping for, right?

[B]

Right.

[C]

It looks horrible right now. Think about being oh, 10 and 1.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, 10 and like you're thinking it's.

[C]

They got a fire. Dan Campbell, he doesn't know what he's doing. He's crazy. But that's literally what they went through. And if you're willing to buy into. Because the next year they went nine and eight. So you go three and three to finish a God awful season and then go nine and eight the next season, hope starts to really build. And then you go 12 and 5, 15 and 2.

[B]

And it's hard to tell a Jet fan to do that.

[C]

But that's all you got.

[B]

That's what the lion fan was sitting there. No, no quarterbacks, no win. Just. It was really bad. You gotta ride it out. And you just have to see, I, I, I'm. And I'm not here to tell you that it's gonna be okay. You might write it out and it'll be the same thing it's been for the last 50 plus years.

[C]

You still gotta make good decisions.

[B]

But all I know is, is that a guy that's never been a head coach before taken over a team that won five games last year and got rid of their quarterback, you're not gonna turn it around in four games. You're not. All right, so just, you just hope that it gets better. And there's a very good chance it won't.

[D]

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[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast.

[D]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[C]

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[B]

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[D]

Oh, by the way, shocking development, but.

[B]

That'S the one thing baseball nailed is the length of game. Like that's one thing. I'll disagree a bit like back in the old days. Yankee Red Sox sign up for four hours. Yeah, listen, they'll be longer than these other games because that's just the way Yankees Red Sox is. But it may not go over three hours. Especially with two really good pitchers on the mound. You might get a nice tidy, you know, 220, 230 and the clock. Two. One game.

[C]

Yeah, the clock.

[B]

Again, we give baseball and certainly manfred a lot of heat and deservedly so.

[D]

No, the clock was the clock. But we said that then, Don.

[C]

We knew it gave you a better pace. Absolutely true.

[D]

I never pushed back on the clock.

[B]

They've Done a tremendous job with that 1-800-919-3776. Gong guy in the Berkshires. You're on ESPN, New York. What's up, man?

[A]

Hey, guys. What's going on?

[B]

It's all going on, Mr. Gong.

[A]

You guys are awesome to go. Hey, Alan, what's going on?

[C]

What's happening?

[A]

Patience with the jets, my friend.

[D]

Speaking of religion.

[A]

This. The previous regime has nothing to do with this regime. Got a new new coach, new quarterback, new system. Patience. Remember Sean McVeigh thought that Jared Goff couldn't play. Look at him now. Yeah, I like this coach. I think we have a quarterback. I think we nailed the first two picks in the draft. They. These guys, this regime needs to shape the roster.

[B]

You think you have. You think you have a. What?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You think you have a corner? You said you have a cornerback. Sauce Gardner.

[C]

Yeah. You lost quarter quarterback.

[D]

You think you have a quarterback?

[C]

You lost me at that.

[D]

What are you seeing?

[A]

Absolutely. Two of the three games he played. I thought he was awesome.

[D]

Awesome, yes. Gone guy. You are a wonderful, positive man. I don't know what you're seeing.

[A]

300 yards of total offense. Yes. I thought he was great.

[D]

Great. This. This is so great. If he's great, then what are you seeing these other quarterbacks do on a weekly basis?

[A]

The actual good quarterback for that BS Offensive pass interference. He has two touchdowns at.

[D]

I. I think I threw underneath almost every ball.

[B]

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go somewhere in the middle. All right. He has not been awful. I just. You have not found the quarterback, Gong. I mean, he. He's. He's okay, but. Are you giving him a contract extension at the end of the year? Are you gonna let him ride out till the contract's up and then select another quarter games?

[A]

I'm just not after four games. But I'm optimistic that this guy's gonna have a good season.

[B]

I've seen some. I think he's got some legs. He can make some broken plays happen. They don't really attempt to throw the ball downfield. Yes. That was a bogus pass interference call. Would have had a touchdown. He has not been an embarrassment, but I don't think he. You said we found a quarterback. No, you haven't.

[D]

That. That was. That's a.

[B]

You found a stop gap. Until now. I. I was with Peter. I thought that maybe they had something with him. He's only 26 years old. You could see by the way they game plan, they don't believe he can throw the ball downfield consistently. You Know how I know? Because they hardly ever try. And it's kind of what the Giants did with dart is kind of what the jets have done every week.

[D]

Every week. If you were watching the Couch cast last night, I was playing a little game of Will Fields throw the ball in the air more than 15 yards. And, and how many times did I say it before it happened? It was. And this is, this is, keep in mind, in like a two minute drill trying to get the ball down the field. I, I went from thinking he had something to what I've seen has made me think he could be a nice little backup for you. He's not the guy.

[C]

The jets are third in the league in rushing yards. It's what they do.

[D]

That is what they do.

[C]

They run the ball. They're not looking to throw the ball, by the way, 29th out of 32 teams in passing yards.

[D]

But by the way. And it's not, they're not high, they're not low in passing yards because they just happen to have a running attack. Their running attack is all they're doing because they know they can't pass.

[B]

Right. Because they don't have a lot of weapons.

[C]

Yes, that too.

[D]

That is true too.

[B]

But I'm not throwing the kid away.

[C]

But he's saying give it time.

[D]

Good for him.

[C]

And he's been a Jet fan forever. Yeah, this is what you have to be. But I'm also saying that through this time, you cannot live game to game. You have to try to find a way. Like, like poor Danny, he just lives and dies with every week. And it's like at this point right now, Danny, you just have to turn it off and just let it happen. Almost in the background, you're giving, you.

[D]

Give people a fraud pass. Wouldn't you give it for this season? If someone says, hey, this weekend my. One of my kids has a thing.

[B]

Listen on the radio, man, I get it. But you want us, you want to see how it looks. But you know it's not going to really amount to anything as far as wins because again, you could talk about, you know, the third and rushing, what it's amounted into an 04 start. Because it's still a passing league, my friends. At some point you're still going to have to chuck the ball downfield. The whole idea is, all right, suck them into thinking you're going to run. And now let's throw. And when I was watching a Giant game, you could see like, all right, let's get some play action going here. And he, and he finally did do that a little bit on that final drive to put the game away. But he's a kid, right? Making his first NFL start. Field's been in the league a little while here. I thought they'd open it up a little bit more for him to see what he can do. But again, it's early. I'm just jumping gone Guy on. We got a quarterback.

[D]

Well, go to.

[B]

Go to.

[D]

Do you mind going to Dave real quick?

[B]

Yes. Dave in Staten Island. You're on ESPN New York.

[A]

How you doing? Ready for Staten Island.

[B]

What's up, baby?

[D]

Dave, what are you seeing with the qb? You see something else with Justin Fields that I'm not seeing?

[A]

It's really not Dave.

[B]

Okay, well, we got Dave here. Sorry.

[D]

Sorry, buddy.

[B]

So it's that kind of day.

[D]

It's.

[B]

It'll be sick soon.

[A]

Okay, guys? It's really not Dave.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, we established that.

[D]

What is your point on Justin Fields?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It'll be sick soon.

[A]

Justin Fields. My point on Justin Fields is he can throw the ball downfield. It's the coaching that's absolutely terrible. And they're not. Any other team in the league would love to have the jets running game. They actually got a very good offensive line as well. They have to try it. They got some decent receivers. Yarrow Wilson is a top 10 receiver in the league. And they got other formidable guys. They got Braylon Allen, they got Breece Hall. And another thing is Aaron Glenn. What kind of defensive goal is he? Does he. Is he watching the Dolphins game? Is he watching the tape? Everybody is playing press coverage on their receivers and not letting him throw the quick passes. Tua can't throw the ball more than 25 yards. And this guy. They're playing a soft zone against Tua. I don't understand that. Has he been watching the game? Tua's looked horrible.

[D]

Thank you for the call, Vinny.

[C]

He's right. Vinny's right about that. You saw the soft coverage how many times in the beginning when we were joking, jokingly saying maybe somebody should guard that guy Terry go. Yeah, for sure. Because he was just doing these little tiny little slants underneath and they had nobody. And then what? He catches the ball and he can get yak because he's fast as hell. And then when he got hurt and broke whatever he did, he dislocated his knee. Then it's. All of a sudden it's Jalen Waddle. We forget to guard him. Like, that's that. That part I'm with.

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

That.

[D]

That part I'M not mad but don't.

[C]

Tell me that Fields has all these weapons receiving wise because his top, his top receiver is obviously Garrett Wilson. Right after that it's Priest hall.

[D]

So.

[B]

Right to see your second leading receivers.

[C]

Is your running back because why check down.

[B]

Check.

[C]

Yeah, check down, check down because nobody can get open.

[B]

Nobody's getting.

[C]

You got a rookie tight end who's got some promise after. By the way, your next highest wide receiver, Tyler Johnson, he has 63 total.

[D]

Yards, so I just have enough. I'm just pushing back. Also that he knows that Fields can throw the ball down the field. It's all the coaching.

[C]

Well, he can. It's. Is it accurate?

[B]

Right.

[D]

Right. Physically, I know he's physically capable of it.

[C]

Physically can throw a ball down the field. Garrett caught a touchdown. That should have been a touchdown.

[D]

He did. And that a beautiful throw. That was a nice ball and a spectacular catch. He also had screens guy guys that had zero touch on them that were not balls. NFL quarterbacks throw. You could watch. Don, you've been watching. How long you watching football?

[B]

40 years actually. Going on 50 since I said that.

[D]

But 40 years, 40, you can 75.

[B]

It's 50.

[D]

You can watch a quarterback do the little things if you've been watching football and tell the kind of guy they are. When you watch Fields week after week, a lot of the basic mechanics and little things he does just don't impress me and make me think he's the guy. So you may be right that they're not scheming the right way for him, but he also has not impressed for the most part.

[C]

Ask the fans in Chicago.

[D]

Well, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt since then.

[B]

Yeah, he was young and Pittsburgh wanted him back.

[C]

They saw. They saw he was okay.

[B]

You know, so listen and okay is fine, but you can't make the future on okay. We've got a quarterback. When your quarterback's okay. 1-800-919-3776 Allen.

[C]

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[D]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[C]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

Don Han, Rosenberg.

[D]

With you.

[B]

There's six. And then it's Yankee baseball, Yankees, Red Sox, you know all the games. All the Yankee games can be heard here.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And then of course, 1050 will have the other games. Two finals already in the box books with the Tigers and the Cubs taking game one later on tonight. And we'll join this game in progress after the Yankee game is over. The Reds and the Dodgers so give you home for postseason baseball.

[C]

So. Yeah, and you mentioned it, so I wrote it down. So the, the Tigers Guardians game went 2 hours 34 minutes.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Cubs pods, 2 hours 25 minutes.

[B]

How about that?

[C]

So that's, that's very tidy. So we'll see if the Yankees can stay. Can you think Yankees, Red Sox. Red Sox can go under three hours.

[B]

First of all, he's one two and a half hours.

[D]

It'll be longest of the day. But I bet it could still be.

[B]

Because what, what eats up time? Pitching changes and runs. Well, when you get starting pitching the way that we got starting pitching in these two games, you're not changing pitchers. And only a grand total of six runs were scored in two games. You had two aces, so you got two aces going. If they're dealing, you're not making changes. And the final scores, 2 to 1. Yeah, that game might be over by like 8:30, but they start getting to the bullpen around the sixth inning and you're changing bodies all the time. It's gonna be fun though, I'll tell you that.

[D]

Let's. I do want you to know, Don, that there's. There's leftover delicious chicken bites from Jacobs.

[C]

I saw that in the fridge.

[D]

I mean, if you want to heat those up, tomorrow's lunch. You want to do another. You want to do a Yankee Couch Gas tomorrow? All right, all right, all right.

[B]

PJ Somerset, you're on espn. New York, what's up, man.

[A]

Hey, guys, I guess I'm a fraud because this, this is the downward style of me as a Jets band. So first week, excited, order my favorite pizza. Told my wife, sit down, let's watch the game. Okay, whatever, you know, no moral victories. You lost. Second week, I just sat. I didn't really order food. I just sat, watched the game. Third week, I was like, my wife's like, let's go to Target. All right, fine, I'll watch it on my phone. Week I just ended up watching the couch cast. I just turned off the game and listened to you guys just talk about the game, which is better than the game.

[C]

We love that.

[D]

Well, thank you.

[B]

I appreciate that, man. We were hoping to get, create some sort of a diversion, and I think we did.

[A]

And one other thing I remember looking at it, had the list of all the starter quarterbacks at the start of the year. 4 Former jets quarterback and Justin Field. I would have taken all four of those guys now. Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith, Sam Dawson, Arnold, even Joe Flacco, all of them. But whatever.

[C]

Isn't that amazing? It's amazing. Isn't it amazing?

[B]

Well, for both teams, right? Like everything that left during the garbage. And all of a sudden these guys find themselves and the most recent first.

[C]

Round pick that you took a quarterback is a backup. Like, what does that tell you, right? He did not draft well.

[B]

And you know what? How he did not. I guess the problem that everybody, every Jet fan has, it doesn't change. And I remember we had Steve Young as a weekly on the K show going back to the Rex years, you know, people complaining about the development of Sanchez. And Steve said it then, and this is, this is 15 years ago, the jets are just not a place where quarterbacks thrive. You know, and he was talking about, you know, because Rex is thinking about defense. Just. It's just not a place, just not an atmosphere for a quarterback to grow. And it hasn't changed. No matter what quarterbacks you bring in, no matter what head coaches, general managers, it's just not a place where quarterbacks seem to thrive. Now, Rogers injury had everything to do with that, but that was an established quarterback with a pedigree. But every time you try to bring somebody in and hopefully you could develop them, right now it looks like it's not working with Fields. Maybe it will, but God. And then you see quarterbacks go and produce other places because they know how to deal with a quarterback. They don't make a quarterback good.

[C]

Yeah, it is. That's the part that's maddening. And again, Sam Darnold was here. He fell into your lap. You poorly managed him as a player the beginning of his career. When he started to figure it out, you had a top pick and decided move on from him. We don't want to pay him. We're going to draft another quarterback. And then you drafted a kid who shouldn't be in the NFL and now he's. And now Sam, who you had in your house, is now thriving with another franchise. Two other franchises since he's left. Thriving.

[B]

Yeah. And, and certainly giving you quarterback play that you, you would long for. And just unfortunately they love him in Seattle. And I still believe in my heart. The biggest thing that hurt Sam's development was when he got model of course, because he had a great. Close to his rookie season. I think he had like the fourth, fourth best quarterback rating in the final month of the regular season. And then he got, he got mono and it just, and everything just slowed down after that.

[C]

And Adam Gase, well, obviously add that.

[B]

But maybe, just maybe if he had not gotten mono and he was playing, things might have been a little bit different. You can't rule that out. Listen, it didn't work out immediately in.

[C]

Carolina, but of all the Jetsiest things to happen to a quarterback couldn't. Isn't mono.

[D]

I mean, Rogers may be the number one hall of Fame. Well, with a bullet.

[C]

Three plays in, three plays in with running.

[D]

Running with the American flag. The whole thing is the. I think the number one most Jetsiest moment in history. Don, top five, top five.

[C]

But fumble.

[D]

Have you done top five Jetsiest moments?

[B]

Well, again, that would be like there's.

[C]

Bobby Brister handing it off to the wrong person leading to a touchdown.

[B]

But the thing is, is the reason the butt fumble resonates is because you never saw anything like that before. Guys tear their Achilles, right? It just happens. So it was bad. It figured it happened to the jets on the fourth play. Yeah, but you see that. You don't see guys run into their own offensive lineman's. But on Thanksgiving you don't see quarterbacks get mono.

[D]

Not often.

[B]

Covid. Yeah, recently. Yeah, that makes sense.

[C]

We'll accept that answer, you know, but.

[B]

You know, tear something back, pull something, break something. Sure, yeah. Mono. Yeah, the kissing disease.

[D]

It's not common. You know, we need, we need a good hand, foot and mouth.

[C]

That's missing.

[B]

We had a baseball because again, the other team, the jets adjacent the Mets, they had one. Yeah, they had. What's his name? Cindergaard.

[D]

Cindergard.

[C]

Had a hand, foot and mouth.

[B]

Yep. What's the other thing for Coxsackie.

[C]

Yes. Yeah. That's what they call it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I got it from Marco.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. So my hand.

[D]

Yeah, The Sacky.

[C]

Not good.

[B]

And just. Can we. The names. Right, right.

[C]

Cock. Sacky. Why do you got to call it that?

[D]

Who needed that?

[C]

Who's the guy was named after?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Who sat there going, I got this. We got this disease. We got to call it something. I know what we'll call it. And everybody just nodded along. That's a good name.

[B]

What joke is. What's the. Isn't there a city on the way to Albany?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Is that that? Yeah.

[B]

Coxsackie, Dave and Mount Vernon. You're on espn, New York. Hi, Dave.

[C]

What a day.

[A]

Hey, guys. How we doing today?

[B]

Good. Very good, man.

[A]

Good. So the two segments, I absolutely love the first one, you're talking about the divisional structure, and Han was talking about how he wants to get rid of the divisions. But my question is, with teams like the jets, who have been so far from being competitive by eliminating the divisions, you do a couple of things. The first thing you do is you minimize the local rivalries, which may make a fan of the jets or even, like the Giants, excited about games during the season. The second part is you end up with the best teams at the end, which may be geographically in the same area. So you don't get like a L. A New York World Series like you did last year.

[C]

I get it. I get it. Oh, good. The biggest one is. What? Good, Sorry.

[A]

Oh, the biggest one is for teams that don't win often. Like, I'm a Philly fan. We celebrated division championships and put up a banner. If you go to Citi Field, they have the penance up from.

[D]

Like you could.

[B]

You could still win your division. I just don't think you have to put. Put as much value on.

[C]

And all I want to say quickly is. Is what Dave was suggesting is, well, you know, you might get all teams in the same area regionally. I want the best teams playing for the championship. I don't care what they're from.

[D]

Yeah, I feel you.

[B]

I just wish it was different, but it's not.

[D]

I wish you love the sport like I do.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Yankees, yes or no tonight. Freed. Big, big performance from Freed.

[D]

I'm going to give. How about this? Got to get this one big judge performance tonight, Matt.

[B]

This is his time. The wild card round. He has been good. So all the games right here. Coming up next, it's the Yankees and the Red Sox. Game one we'll break it all down for you tomorrow at 3 o' clock right here on ESPN New York.

[C]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg Podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.