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Alan Hahn
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Don LaGreca
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Alan Hahn
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. 502 in the big city with Don Lagreca and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800-919-3776 is the number we have been kind of throughout all the sports pages today when it comes to the headlines in the various sports the Knicks with a win last night at the Garden, they're five and oh to start the season at Madison Square Garden. Don, you know the last time the Knicks started five and oh at home in a season, do I go there 90, 93, 94? No, no, no sooner.
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Don LaGreca
How about, how about when they won 54 games.
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Alan Hahn
It's the year 1213, 1213. They won the first, believe it or not, that season. So off to a good start. But it's been a while. It shows you though, it's been a while. And establishing home, as any Ranger fan will know, is critical early in the season. Now they've had again they've had a couple of last week they had struggles. This week or this starting Sunday it started to turn. The offense has started to really pop and it's been really fun to watch. There's been moments with Car Anthony Towns, there were moments with Jalen Brunson with an anobi with Bridges. The bench has been scoring upwards of 30 to 40 points. And some of these games with Clarkson and McBride and Hart all producing and for Mike Brown, like it's starting to show. It's not easy when you're a new coach and you come in and you say I'm going to take a team that went to the conference finals last year and has its core returning and I'm going to change everything you do and then it doesn't work right away and it's two and three and you've got some upset players as a coach, people Start looking at you like, you know what? I'm kind of losing confidence in what you're trying to do. So this run of three games here, especially against a team like the Timberwolves, who by the way got to the Western Conference finals last year and for back to back years, have gotten to the conference finals. They have Anthony Edwards, they've got a really good team and they got a terrific coach. And you, I mean, absolutely boat race them in the second half. 83 points they scored in the second half of the game last night. That's a pretty significant win. And if you're a head coach, that's your kind of way of looking back, not just at your team, but to an entire market, saying, I told you, you got to give this a minute. But once it pops, it's going to look pretty special.
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Don LaGreca
I know it seems strange to have that kind of overhaul with the coach after going to the conference final, especially since they hadn't been there in 25 years. But I don't think there's any bigger fool's golden sports than conference finals appearances or championship game appearances, because hear me out, it sounds like you're close, but you're really only halfway there. In any other walk of life, halfway there is not close. But in sports it's like, oh, we're in the final four, so we're close to a championship. Are you really? Were the Rangers close to a championship after going to the conference finals two years, two times in three years? Were the Knicks really that close to a championship last year with the jets that close to a championship when they went to back to back championship games?
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Peter Rosenberg
I don't like.
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Alan Hahn
No, I got to disagree.
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Don LaGreca
Think about it.
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Alan Hahn
Well, no, no, halfway there is when you lose in the second round, when you get to the conference final.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, it's halfway there. Doesn't really make sense because it's excluding the whole season and making the playoffs. So it doesn't exactly make sense.
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Don LaGreca
You've got to win that series that you didn't win and then you've got to win another series in order to win the championship. You are close, but sometimes you are close, sometimes you're banging on the door and sometimes the right call is, you know what? We're not as close as we think. Because look, were the Rangers that close? They're already two coaches removed from that, right? When they went to the conference final against Tampa, they still let go of Gallant, then went to the conference final. Laviolette still let him go, right? Red, the jets weren't really that close because they still had to win that game. They didn't win and then go win the super bowl. And they haven't gone to the playoffs since. And now the Knicks, they made a change of coach because I think they realized that, hey, yeah, we had a great run, but is it going to get us where we need to go? So you're flabbergasted by making a change when you're that close. But honestly, you're close and you're closer than you've ever been in a quarter century. But honestly, are you, with the Knicks, that close to winning at all? And the answer is no, they weren't.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Sometimes it is a misleading thing.
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Alan Hahn
I mean, I get that. I get that what you say, because what you saw, they should have. And I look, it's. It's losers lament. But that Pacer series with that game one, they were winning that game by 15 points with like three minutes to go. That game was over. Yeah, and they lost the game because they took the foot off the gas just long enough and the patients were smart enough to just keep banging threes. And then they make that incredible shot by Halliburton, the force overtime and the rest is history. Right. So we all know that the Knicks were good enough to win that series, but they weren't. And that's. I think the question is, was it coaching? Was it. Was it talent? I don't think it was talent. I think there was something that just wasn't right about them. Caliber. There was something not calibrated properly about them to win a series like that that they should have won, they were good enough to win. But something was up in certain games. You saw it, whether it was Towns, whether it was Brunson being shut down, whether it was nothing off the bench at all. And they couldn't put people in Robinson and using him as a starter, not as a starter. There was so many little things that happened in that series, a lot of fires to put out. And that made you wonder. This can't be a talent thing. There's gotta be something else that's missing.
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Don LaGreca
And you have to give credit to the teams that know how to self scout instead of just looking at the obvious. No better example than the Giants of 2022. Oh, Dable's coach of the year. They went to the playoffs, they won a playoff game, they were in the divisional round of the playoffs. We must be good. No, no, you weren't good. It was fool's gold and it's been proven out right so it was wrong to give Daniel Jones the contract. It was wrong to think that you were that close because you really weren't. Because you could say we deserve to win if we caught this break. But you didn't win. You know, because the teams that know how to win find a way to win. You know, in those championship games, the Steelers and the Colts were just better. So despite the fact that the jets had an 11 point lead at the half and, and, and, and had a chance at the end of the game against the Steelers, they didn't win for a reason. Because the better team knew how to win.
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Alan Hahn
Right.
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Don LaGreca
The Florida Panthers almost got beat by Toronto last year, Allen. They were down two games. They were, they had to win in overtime in Game 3. But because they're so darn good, they were able to overcome that and Toronto wasn't good enough to be able to finish the job. The same thing with the Rangers up 20 against Tampa, a two goal lead in game three. Jacob Truba commits a penalty to give up a power play goal. And Tampa never lost another game the rest of the series. Why? Because Tampa was championship caliber and the Rangers weren't. So you could look in your mirror and say, we were close. By the way, were you really that close?
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Peter Rosenberg
And of course, I hate to say it about my team from last year. They're sitting right there.
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Alan Hahn
You're right.
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Peter Rosenberg
Championship game.
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Alan Hahn
Yep.
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Peter Rosenberg
For half a game. And then all of a sudden you get run out and then you look.
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Alan Hahn
Like, okay, we're right there, we're on the doorstep now.
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Peter Rosenberg
I think what it can mean though, depending on the team. The Giants, well, the Giants didn't go to championship game. Doesn't matter, they got trucked in the, in the divisional. But what I think it can mean if you make a conference final or a championship game, it can mean that you're close enough that if you make the right move, you're there.
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Alan Hahn
That right, it's.
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Peter Rosenberg
And we'll find out with the Knicks too.
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Alan Hahn
If you make the right moves, you're there. The hardest thing to do after a run that feels successful but doesn't end in a championship is to self scout. I love that phrase. It's good work because you end the season and instead of now feeling satisfied with, hey, we're on our way, we like it, let's not mess with it, let's leave it the way it is and just run it back next year and we'll do it right this time is you can make the mistake of falling in love with pieces that you have on the team that really aren't like, you can upgrade, you can make tweaks that make you better. And the Knicks knew they had to get a better bench that they knew. And then on top of it, the question marks about Tibs from a lot of people that were lingering, especially late last year, but definitely into the playoffs, it wasn't. It was no longer just fans. It was in the locker room. And I have heard this, and I want to make this clear because as you all, you all know, when I fought for Tibbs and when he lost his job, I did not like it. I was concerned about it. I felt he deserved to stay as coach. But I had heard something over the last week that puts an end to it for me, and it is that he could not have returned the locker room like, like those who thought, well, they got two and three when the team was struggling and Mike Brown was trying to change so many things. There were some people that thought, well, if Tibbs was here, they just played the same way as he did last year and they would have been winning those games. It could be five and, oh, right now and all that stuff. And someone I talked to said, that's not true, that there are guys that do that do still love Tibs, that still were a little shocked by him getting fired, but also acknowledge, yeah, it kind of run its course. And in the room, the players. And I said this when everybody was trying to blame and who did it? Was it Dolan, who did it? Was it this? No, I said, the blame lies in the locker room. And that person confirmed to me, you are correct.
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Peter Rosenberg
So there was enough people, regardless of how many it was. There were.
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Alan Hahn
Nobody just kind of knew, like, it had run its course.
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Peter Rosenberg
This is, this was the max.
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Alan Hahn
We had no longer a collaboration, get.
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Peter Rosenberg
Here compete, but, but not this.
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Alan Hahn
This. This had to find some. A new voice. And Mike Brown has the hard part of first dealing with a group that's hearing a new voice. Like, you know how it is. Look at, look at, look at this show. Great example. For the first. How many months, if not still. There's a lot of people who are used to this time slot who hear me and go, that's not Michael. This ain't Michael. It's not the same. They go, sucks, Michael's not here, right? For 20 years, Michael was here and Don was next to him. And then in 10 years ago, Peter came in. And that's something you're just used to. Whether you, whether you felt like the show was falling off or not, you still were used to it? No, I'm just saying, like, I'm using the Nick as an example.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, got it.
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Alan Hahn
But you still were just used to it, and it was comfortable. And so it's an adjustment, but it's over time. Eventually, I hope people will just kind of be like, all right, now I'm kind of used to this new voice that's in with those guys. Sure. And they'll no longer keep referencing the fact that Michael's not here.
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Peter Rosenberg
And I'm sort of like the Carl Anthony Towns. Like, I'm here, but I'm sickened by it. You know what I mean? I'm looking Alan every day, going, shaking my head. And when you say, well, how do you feel? I just. I get a weird sort of cough. You can't really hear me.
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Alan Hahn
And don't talk quietly. Like you're too close to me. Don't cough on me. I'm doing all right. Fine.
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Don LaGreca
But.
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Alan Hahn
But does that make sense, though? And that's sort of where they're at right now.
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Don LaGreca
Imagine the pressure you'd be under, Alan, with your analogy. If the reason the move was made was because we thought it would make the show better. Like, the move was made because, you know, Michael wanted to move to a different time slot.
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Alan Hahn
So that was like Pat Riley leaving.
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Don LaGreca
Right. Like the Brown. Now you're supposed to take him to the next level. So he's feeling the pressure. And now as the information comes out that this is what the players wanted, they'll feel the pressure. All right, now do it.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
Now you got to go. Now you got to be able to go farther. And if you don't, you're going to hear it. I understand the risks involved. When you have a successful run that you want to keep it as is, and that's the safe thing to do. But if you don't think is it. There's a reason why they call it a run. A run usually is a flash. It's something that's very temporary. When it's a run that you've got to determine, is this a run or is this something that's sustainable? And if you don't think it's sustainable, then you've got to have the guts to be able to make that move. And Nick's did. Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
And now is. Again, you're going through the. Getting to know each other apart. There was the awkward, like, holding each other accountable. But, you know, again, it's starting to show. And this week, I'm telling you guys, I was courtside for three games. Got to sit next to the great one, Mike. Mike Breen last night with Tyler Murray, who's a future great one. He's really good. And, and I'm telling you, I was watching a team and watching body language and eye contact and accountability moments too, by the way, in the game, especially early on where they're yelling at each other and I'm going, this is starting. This is starting to hit like this looks like it's starting to head in the right direction. So that's the good news because we. All we've been talking about here in New York is all the issues with our teams and frustration with our teams. There's a goal.
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Don LaGreca
There it is.
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Alan Hahn
They're getting horny in the middle.
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Peter Rosenberg
Basket in the basket.
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Alan Hahn
Devil score. Pitchfork in this one. Now at least we get to talk about a team that has a great chance to do a lot of winning. In the meantime, if we can make a transition. Well, little Batman transition.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well done.
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Alan Hahn
Let's talk some football here real quick because everybody thought I was crazy. Even Greeny thought I was crazy. And then after we were done talking with Greeny on Monday, he texted me and actually said, I kind of like what you. I like what you're thinking. And it had to do with this conversation. Can't. It's not. It won't click for me.
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Don LaGreca
I showed you my phone, all of the jets little group text chats that I'm on, all my Jet fan friends, including Alan Han on the radio.
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Alan Hahn
Wait, that work? Which one did you want? I don't know. I'm trying to play it. That was it.
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Don LaGreca
If I showed you my phone, all of the jets little group text chats that I'm on, all my Jet fan friends, including Alan Hahn on the radio in New York, said to me the other day, the corporate quarterback they want is Joe Burrow. These delusional Jet fan friends of mine.
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Alan Hahn
Believe that with all these picks they're going to pry Joe Burrow out of.
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Don LaGreca
A situation in Cincinnati. And I keep telling them that is ludicrous.
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Alan Hahn
I feel like I owe it to.
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Don LaGreca
Them to at least bring it up.
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Alan Hahn
At the table to look for hope.
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Don LaGreca
Well, here's what I would say to you right now. We have the New York jets sitting here with five first round draft picks the next two years with the capability of doing whatever they want at the quarterback position. We have maybe an extra quarterback in San Francisco. You're raising a question about Joe Burrow. There's questions in Arizona. We still are waiting for Trevor Lawrence to prove himself. This is a league that always has quarterback Questions. This now as much as ever, feels like an arms race with teams positioning themselves to make big moves for quarterbacks, whoever they are, whenever they are.
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Alan Hahn
How do we feel about that? Well, Green is shouting us out. Bring the conversation to the air. Nationally.
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Peter Rosenberg
Shouted you out?
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Don LaGreca
Well, I don't, I don't.
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Alan Hahn
It was on the show.
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Don LaGreca
I don't think we ever. I can't speak for Peter. I don't think we thought you were that crazy to throw him out there.
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Peter Rosenberg
I think it's pretty crazy. There's no chance. There's absolutely no chance.
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Don LaGreca
Everybody said that. Like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're probably right. I would probably bet on the side. I think Alan would bet on the side of it not happening.
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Alan Hahn
Probably. Yeah.
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Don LaGreca
But think of the phrase that Greeny used, pry from Cincinnati. Why does that not sound hard? Prying something from Cincinnati?
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Alan Hahn
Like, you got one of the cheapest.
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Don LaGreca
Teams in the NFL.
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Alan Hahn
I see what you're saying.
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Don LaGreca
A team that is underachieved in the last few years.
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Alan Hahn
All right, okay.
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Don LaGreca
That you don't think there's a scenario where he may say, I don't think it's going to happen here. And Cincinnati goes, I don't think it's going to happen with this guy. He gets hurt. We pinch pennies whenever we can and they're offering us five first round picks. We've got a chance to reset when we're not. We're not. We're not even dancing with Baltimore in our own division. And they lost their starting quarterback too.
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Alan Hahn
Right.
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Don LaGreca
Can we get to Kansas City? Can we get to Buffalo? I mean, I, again, I bet on the side of it not happening, but it's not, it's not zero. It's not 10%, not when you have.
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Alan Hahn
All those assets, but it's a lot.
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Don LaGreca
Closer to 50 than it is to zero.
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Alan Hahn
Well, that's. I thought to me that the shefty reaction is what got my attention.
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Don LaGreca
She'd shut it down. He thought there was no shot.
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Alan Hahn
We know Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter. If it was like, you're out of your mind, you know, he would say it right out of the gate like, granny, let it go. There's no chance. But what he's telling you is, you know, everybody's kind of setting up to make major moves, the arms race thing. And if you're Cincinnati and you're seeing your offense look pretty much right, 350, 400 yards with a 41 year old Joe Flacco.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. A guy who looked Like I'm paying.
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Alan Hahn
This guy $200 million and that guy is doing the same thing. Like, why am I paying this guy 200 million? Well, this guy gets hurt and he's not happy. Like what the jets need. Now look, if you're making moves like this with the jets did and getting draft picks, you're getting assets. The only way you get me to lean forward in my chair is if you try to be aggressive like this. That you say, we got these assets, not so we could draft some kid that no one thinks is any good. Number one. No, we're getting these assets because we're getting for a bonafide. I know what we've got, star, because that's what we need here. This thing can't get turned over with a 22 year old who's played one year of college football. It ain't happening like that, right? We got to do it with a guy who walks in here and changes the culture just being here. Aaron Rodgers was supposed to be that. That was one attempt at it came, it looked great. The honeymoon was amazing. But then the Achilles popped on wedding night, so. Which is not what you want, you know, like so. Or I should say after the wedding. After the wedding, when they came home from the honeymoon, that's when he popped. So. But I say you got to be all in aggressive. And I would be public about it, but you go to the agent, find out like, hey, if he wants out of there, we're willing to do this and put him in a major market like New York and make him a megastar, right? And we're going to build all this stuff around him. Look what they did in Detroit. We're going to do the same thing. Want to get him receivers? We already have Garrett Wilson. Whatever it takes, we'll do whatever it takes. And you know, there's no price too high. And if the agent goes to Burrow and says, if you want to get out of there like Carson Palmer told you to, here's your chance and maybe you make it happen and maybe Cincinnati listens. You never know.
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Don LaGreca
You never know. Well, first of all, five first round picks, everyone's going to take the call. All right? They may not ultimately do it. Like the Kansas City probably doesn't take the call. Philly doesn't take the call. Buffalo doesn't take the call. But he just heard Trevor Lawrence. Does Jacksonville take the call? Damn right they do. They're paying him a ton of money. They haven't done a thing with him in five first round picks. They're Taking that call now. Cincinnati taking the call.
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Alan Hahn
Flip it, Don. Is five suicidal for a franchise?
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Don LaGreca
Well, that's not suicidal. When five minutes ago you didn't have three of the five.
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Alan Hahn
And you still have a million holes to fill.
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Don LaGreca
But. But the one hole is a gaping hole, and that's a gaping hole. There's no way, no, I don't know if Trevor Lawrence is worth that. You know, I don't know if Joe Burrow is, because we were looking at it. Hey, maybe the jets are like, I don't know, am I giving up all this draft capital for a guy that's just going to get hurt in week four? You know, but you heard the other thing that Schefter said they could do whatever they want, right? Which means that that gets you in. That, that gets you through the velvet rope. That gets you into any conversation you want to have about pretty much any quarterback in the NFL outside of the three cities that I mentioned. And even Buffalo at the end of this year, you know, if they get another disappointing, you know, ouster early, they may not even take the call. I think you put yourself in an excellent position where you can't. You can never say never. And to a guy that's been banged up and he's in Cincinnati again, I'm probably betting on it not happening. But don't. You can't tell me zero. You can't tell me 10%. It's probably somewhere below 40, but still worth the conversation.
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Alan Hahn
What's the most firsts given up?
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Don LaGreca
Oh, boy, that's a good. How many first round picks did the Vikings give up for Herschel Walker? I know. That was like one first.
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Alan Hahn
They were all first.
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Don LaGreca
Well, there was a lot of players. So many.
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Alan Hahn
Yeah, I don't, I don't think those were first. That's.
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Don LaGreca
I don't remember.
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Alan Hahn
I have not. I have not seen you have something because I've been trying to search it since we started the segment, and it's all, It's. It's firsts, not just overall picks because, like, you know, the Ricky Williams trade was just all. It was the, it was the Cowboys.
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Peter Rosenberg
Hold on to Don's point. To the Cowboys in the Walker trade. Yeah, they got linebacker. Another linebacker. They got a corner. They got a dn. They got three first from Minnesota.
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Alan Hahn
All right, three is a lot.
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Peter Rosenberg
Three seconds for Minnesota, a sixth and a third.
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Alan Hahn
The third is more valuable. Okay, so that's. And then they sent three first. Three seconds and a third.
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Peter Rosenberg
And then they. Plus four players and the Vikings got Herschel Walker. Dallas's third round pick in 90, San Diego's fifth round pick in 90, a tenth round pick in 90, and a third round pick in 91.
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Don LaGreca
Because remember, it's, it's three first rounds and three second rounds. It's. That's close to the five first round picks because again, some of these. Well, these five first round picks are going to be very late in the first round.
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Alan Hahn
Remember, they also. How many seconds do they have, though? Then they also, they've got.
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Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
They have five first and two seconds.
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Peter Rosenberg
Right.
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Alan Hahn
So you don't have to give them all five firsts if you don't have to. But all I'm saying is it sounds, it sounded insane to say Joe Burrow and the jets should go after Joe Burrow. And everybody's like, there's no chance. But when, when, when Adam Schefter says, no, there's an arms race going on in the NFL and teams are building. They're gearing up for the next one to shake free. He's telling you that this is a real thing happening in the league. And all it will take is Joe Burrow or his agent to say, I don't like what's going on here. Or the Bengals to say, why are we paying this guy a lot of money? He never seems to be available.
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Peter Rosenberg
And then, and then, and then Burrow having wanted to be okay with it, too.
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Don LaGreca
See, that to me is more of a stumbling block than Cincinnati not wanting.
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Alan Hahn
To do it because, because both saying.
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Don LaGreca
I don't want to go.
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Peter Rosenberg
Because let's be real, guys, both teams stink and have a pretty bad history. Except one team occasionally pops up in Super Bowls and also has a much lower spotlight on you. And for as much as Joe Burrow is Joe Cool, guys, remember I told you I saw him at Fanatics Fest. He's also, like, socially a bit weird and avoidant. I don't know how much he's shining in you.
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Alan Hahn
All right, but.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you ever see him.
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Alan Hahn
Though, when he goes to games. He got the furs on. He's got all. He's got the whole.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but how much more do you hear him talk? Like, he doesn't talk that much, though.
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Alan Hahn
That's all right.
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Peter Rosenberg
No, but like in New York, you get forced to talk.
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Don LaGreca
Let me ask you this. I mean, not, not that you don't. Not that golf is Joe Burrow because golf didn't play in a Super bowl to that point. But he did. He did. Sorry, he did. I take it back. He did. You think Detroit Was attractive more than. Well, first of all, it's Detroit.
- [24:03]
Alan Hahn
No offense, but he didn't have a choice. They traded him.
- [24:06]
Don LaGreca
Right. But not. Well, this would happen here, but like, oh, you go to Detroit. He actually went through a one win season.
- [24:12]
Alan Hahn
Yeah.
- [24:13]
Don LaGreca
Remember that?
- [24:14]
Alan Hahn
They were terrible.
- [24:15]
Don LaGreca
That went viral where his like hot supermodel girlfriend was like dancing on the.
- [24:19]
Peter Rosenberg
I'll never forget it as long as I live.
- [24:20]
Don LaGreca
And, you know, they're a team that's, you know, banging on the door for a Super Bowl. So, like, Detroit wasn't attractive either.
- [24:25]
Peter Rosenberg
You don't remember it?
- [24:25]
Alan Hahn
I don't.
- [24:26]
Don LaGreca
You don't remember that?
- [24:27]
Peter Rosenberg
It's.
- [24:27]
Alan Hahn
It's.
- [24:28]
Don LaGreca
Do yourself a favor.
- [24:28]
Peter Rosenberg
Are they married now? They might be married now.
- [24:30]
Don LaGreca
They have kids.
- [24:31]
Alan Hahn
I have no idea they're married.
- [24:32]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it's amazing, but. By the way, but Jared Goff is not Joe Burrow. Like, Joe Burrow will command more respect from his team and treatment than Goff would.
- [24:40]
Don LaGreca
Understood. But you know, if they went to a Super Bowl, I get. You're right. Goff's not Burrowing. But Detroit is kind of like the jets at the time they made the deal. So again, I don't. I don't know. I just think that, that. Do I really want to go to New York where if I fail, it's like a hundred times worse. And they don't just. There's. There's bad juju there, you know, but.
- [25:00]
Peter Rosenberg
You want to search like. Search like. Golf's girlfriend celebrates win.
- [25:04]
Don LaGreca
This could be the first thing that comes.
- [25:06]
Peter Rosenberg
Golf's girlfriend celebrate.
- [25:08]
Don LaGreca
No, no, no.
- [25:08]
Alan Hahn
Right now.
- [25:09]
Don LaGreca
Oh, no.
- [25:09]
Peter Rosenberg
We got a break.
- [25:10]
Alan Hahn
Sorry.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, no.
- [25:11]
Alan Hahn
I know you guys do.
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Peter Rosenberg
You said we got to go to break.
- [25:13]
Alan Hahn
Yeah. You handle that for me.
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [26:48]
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [26:49]
Alan Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
- [26:57]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, is this because of the Kristen Harper video that we were watching? Because it fits.
- [27:01]
Alan Hahn
Well, no, because it's shake you.
- [27:04]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, but you remember the video.
- [27:05]
Alan Hahn
I remember it's a bikini video. It is.
- [27:07]
Peter Rosenberg
It is a classic bikini video.
- [27:08]
Alan Hahn
So all I gotta say is we found it is. Respectfully. Yeah. God bless.
- [27:14]
Don LaGreca
Golf one before kickoff.
- [27:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Golf bless.
- [27:17]
Alan Hahn
God bless. Hey, everybody. Now it's time for the Damian Wooder report.
- [27:21]
Don LaGreca
There you go.
- [27:21]
Alan Hahn
And it's brought to you by bet365d wood. What's happening, man?
- [27:27]
Damian Woody
What's going on, guys? How you guys doing?
- [27:29]
Alan Hahn
Good. We were just doing some Google searches on some very interesting videos. But we were also discussing something that I, I don't know if you saw it on get up or if you even. Were you even on the panel?
- [27:47]
Damian Woody
Oh, I heard about it.
- [27:48]
Alan Hahn
Oh, boy.
- [27:49]
Damian Woody
I've been. Yeah, I heard about it through multiple people. Alan Han. So let's just go ahead and get it out there. Let's go get the Joe Burrow thing out there.
- [28:01]
Alan Hahn
I got five picks. They're jingling in my pocket. It's burning a hole. I need a quarterback. I don't want to go to a first round pick or a number one pick and a kid who's. I gotta wait for him to develop. I hope I hit on him. I want the guarantee. I want to go and give you an offer you can't refuse. I have assets that as a franchise you might need and I have a market that if for a player you might be like, I think I could be a big star there and I need to get away from this place. So tell me why the jets shouldn't at least do everything they can to flirt, to try to catch the eye, to try to convince Cincinnati to pick up the phone and try to bring Joe Burrow, the next Joe Cool, to New York.
- [28:56]
Damian Woody
I will say this. You know, when it first came up, I had a lot of people tell me, what is. What is Alan Han smoking crack? You know, just. But then, you know, I was like, right.
- [29:10]
Don LaGreca
The crack.
- [29:11]
Damian Woody
This is what this is. This is what. This is what.
- [29:14]
Don LaGreca
This is.
- [29:15]
Damian Woody
What it could come down to. It has to come down to Joe Biden Burrow himself.
- [29:20]
Alan Hahn
Correct.
- [29:21]
Damian Woody
If Joe Burrow himself says, you know what, Bengals, I'm done. I. I just. I need to. It's time for us to part ways. I need to move on. Guess what will happen? He will be traded. Okay? We saw it. We saw it with Carson Palmer. Hell, Carson Palmer retired because he got tired of playing for the Bangers.
- [29:44]
Alan Hahn
And Carson Palmer told Joe Burrow, get the hell out of there. He told them that.
- [29:48]
Damian Woody
Yes, he did. He did tell him that. And ultimately, he was traded. And in today's age, when these players hold this much power and juice, if. If Joe Burrow says, you know what? I just can't do it anymore, he can force his way out of Cincinnati. Now the question is, will he want to come to the jets organization? Well, that's the bit. That's a. That's the big question. What do you want? But you know what? Here's the thing that I would tell not only Joe Burrow, but any person out there. This market is not for everyone. But if you got. But if you have the balls. If you have the balls to come to New York and you turn this thing around, you are a made man. There is nothing like New York.
- [30:43]
Peter Rosenberg
And what if you don't?
- [30:44]
Damian Woody
There's nothing like New York.
- [30:45]
Peter Rosenberg
And when. There's nothing like it, if you don't.
- [30:47]
Alan Hahn
But what if you do? If you can make it here, you can anywhere.
- [30:51]
Peter Rosenberg
You know how many people we are on that list who have heard about that? How wonderful it is.
- [30:54]
Alan Hahn
All I heard, Donnie, is Damian Woody. Did not say no. Did not say no.
- [31:01]
Don LaGreca
And I think, why not? Aim for the sky. Now, there's other alternatives. You hear about Trevor Lawrence? I'm sure Jacksonville might be tempted. No.
- [31:08]
Damian Woody
Hell no.
- [31:09]
Don LaGreca
You don't think. You wouldn't want him. He's saying, no.
- [31:12]
Damian Woody
No. Like Trevor Lawrence can't. He's like, he hasn't shown me anything in Jacksonville. Could you imagine Trevor Lawrence in New York? Oh, heck, no.
- [31:24]
Alan Hahn
Like, no.
- [31:24]
Don LaGreca
Well, I mean. But you also don't have to give up my first round picks. What if it only took one?
- [31:31]
Alan Hahn
Man?
- [31:32]
Damian Woody
I just. You know what, Don? Like I understand the thinking and the logic, but I also look at some of these guys, like the DNA and some of these guys, they're not made for it.
- [31:42]
Don LaGreca
Wow.
- [31:42]
Damian Woody
They're not. They're not mate. They're not made for this market. They're better off in these irrelevant markets and just trying to figure it out there.
- [31:52]
Alan Hahn
Do you feel me though, D? When I'm. When I say like this, if you're going to do something dramatic like this, if you're the jets and you just suddenly collected three, three first round picks and now all of a sudden you have five to work with in a two year span in a couple of seconds as well. Like that's a, that's a haul like you have now real money and you have a chance to do something with that money. And everybody's assuming, well if they lose out, they'll the number one pick and they could take, you know, Mendoza or they could try to like convince another quarterback to come out, whatever it is. You could get yourself a quarterback in the draft. And I'm like, no. You know why? Because we have done this dance already over and over again and you're asking us to wait for this young quarterback to develop and you're hoping he hits in a big market like New York where all the pressure is what I feel like when you have this kind of currency, why don't you go get a dude who already is established and can help turn your franchise around like that.
- [32:52]
Damian Woody
Well, here's another thing that you have to think about. Here's another aspect to the this. Okay. You get all this currency. We know the owner, Woody Johnson is not the most patient of people as an owner. If you go to rookie route, you're probably going to have to this thing. You have to. It's going to be another couple years at least.
- [33:15]
Alan Hahn
Yep.
- [33:15]
Damian Woody
Before we start to know if this thing is truly turned around. So if you're Aaron Grant Glenn, if you think about you, Aaron Glenn, do you trust that Woody Johnson will be patient enough to see the whole process through? See, that's the thing you got to also think about like if you can get a veteran, if you get a dog like Joe Burrow, that the quarterback position is locked down, you know what you got, he's one of the best in the league, then that accelerates the whole process tremendously.
- [33:47]
Don LaGreca
Oh yeah.
- [33:48]
Damian Woody
And you don't have to worry about now we know that Joe Burrow has. He's had his injury history, we know that. But there's no denying that Joe Burrow is one of the top five quarterbacks in the game. No question about that.
- [34:02]
Don LaGreca
All right, so they might be able to figure out the quarterback with the draft currency they acquired. Do they have the coach.
- [34:13]
Damian Woody
That'S an incomplete. We don't know. Like, listen, I'm a fan of Aaron Glenn. I think Aaron Glenn has been schooled, you know, schooled around some great people. I think his whole demeanor has been, you know what? I need to install this culture because this whole organization needs a culture shock. It just needs a shock to the whole system. I think that's part of the reason why they traded away sauce gardening and Quinn and Williams, they're great players, but we didn't win with them. This whole organization needs a wake up call and so we're not going to find out exactly what we have in Aaron Glenn until next year, maybe two years, two seasons from now. Because this is a, this is a complete good job. Make no mistake about it.
- [34:59]
Peter Rosenberg
I know. Regardless of what Muji said this week.
- [35:01]
Alan Hahn
But. Yeah.
- [35:02]
Peter Rosenberg
Now how do you feel about the theory that I came up with this week week, Woody, which is that if you're a Giant fan, I believe I'm fine with the team losing out as long as the quarterback plays good because I'm ready to move on from Dable. But if I'm a Jet fan, unless you're in love with one quarterback, I'm rooting for this team to win the second half of the season and see that they want to play for this coach. What do you think about that?
- [35:27]
Damian Woody
I like, like, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I've always said when it comes to the Giants, this season has been about. It was about the quarterback. I think from the, from the early samplings that we have of Jackson Dart, they got a guy, they got a guy that can, that can do some things, that can lead the organization moving forward. And then they got to figure out the quarterback situ. I mean the coach situation, which we'll know more in the next nine, 10 games, whatever it is. I think as far as the jets concerned, I think you want to see if you're Aaron Glenn. I'm taking account. Okay. Still playing for me and who's not. Because I need to know who I'm going to be carrying with me beyond this year. And that's to me, it's what the, the remaining games are going to be about. Who am I, who am I going to ride with on you Know who am I going to ride with as far as these players that's been accustomed to losing around here. That's what I would need to see if I'm Aaron Glenn, right?
- [36:22]
Don LaGreca
Because you want to know if you got a coach. The only way to find that out is if you win games. And if you really want to change the culture, you got to win. Now it's going to be hard when you loot, you trade two of your best players, but you got to change the culture. You got to start winning games especially you know, the way they won before the buy and then you make the big deal and you beat Cleveland, which is certainly on the table. You got to start winning games, man.
- [36:44]
Damian Woody
You have to start winning games. You know, and I've had many a coach just tell me, tell me this not and I believe it to a te. Before you can really learn to win, you got to learn how not to lose, right? And I think that's the, that's what the jets have got to learn right now. That's what Aaron Glenn got to keep pounding in the head. Guys have to learn how not to lose stupid penalties, turnovers, things that when people say the Jet, you know, the jets are just being the same old Jets. We got to eliminate all that type of stuff before we start truly winning football games.
- [37:24]
Peter Rosenberg
How can you tell me I'm dying this year? As you can imagine as a Commanders fan, how do you, how do teams get like Buffalo and Kansas City and Philadelphia where with the amount of injuries in this league they managed to be this consistent D. It seems impossible. How do teams get that way?
- [37:45]
Damian Woody
Well, listen, a lot of it has to do with the organizations themselves. Number one, you have to, you know those organizations you speak of have great ownership. They have tremendous front office. Coaches are top notch coaches. And then the organizations that you spoke of, they have dudes at quarterback. They got guys that basically lifts up players around them. When you have all of those things working in your favor, that's how they have. That's how they're able to have sustainable success.
- [38:21]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it just blows my mind this year when, when you see your team get like destroyed by injury and you.
- [38:25]
Alan Hahn
See the team fall, it's just the one piece. You can't lose.
- [38:28]
Peter Rosenberg
But no, but the thing is that's.
- [38:29]
Alan Hahn
What it is because if, if the Chiefs lose, lost Mahomes.
- [38:32]
Don LaGreca
True.
- [38:32]
Peter Rosenberg
That is true.
- [38:33]
Alan Hahn
You're not making a playoffs, right? If the Bills lost Josh, if the Bills lost Josh Allen.
- [38:38]
Peter Rosenberg
Now the teams we're talking about all have their quarterback.
- [38:40]
Alan Hahn
There might be one like, if you think about it, right, because Lamar Jackson has been out. Look at the Ravens, like, it just feels like the one position you can't lose everywhere else. If you lose pieces, you can survive. If you have that force multiplier at the quarterback position that, as, I think, as D. Wood said, just raises everybody else.
- [38:56]
Peter Rosenberg
That's a great point.
- [38:57]
Alan Hahn
Have you, have you had a chance to get to the island and watch, Watch a hockey game? Because that kid is special, D. Wood.
- [39:04]
Damian Woody
I have not, but it is on my to do list. I will be. I would definitely be going because I've heard the same thing. Like, this Schaefer kid.
- [39:12]
Peter Rosenberg
Yep.
- [39:13]
Don LaGreca
Is.
- [39:14]
Damian Woody
Yeah, he's the real deal. So I'm looking forward to getting out to ubs.
- [39:18]
Don LaGreca
Well, I'll tell you what, you don't even have to go that far. Monday, this very Monday. Monday, the Islanders are going to be at the Rock. Come say hello to me. Maybe we'll break bread.
- [39:26]
Alan Hahn
Are you, Wait, they are, Don.
- [39:28]
Damian Woody
There. There we go.
- [39:29]
Don LaGreca
There you go. Right?
- [39:30]
Alan Hahn
Don's getting you tickets, D. Wood. Look at that.
- [39:33]
Don LaGreca
There we.
- [39:33]
Damian Woody
There we go. Can I, can I come into the booth, Don?
- [39:36]
Don LaGreca
Well, I'll put you on the air.
- [39:37]
Alan Hahn
How about that? Oh, how about that air? You know what? I'm free.
- [39:42]
Damian Woody
My go.
- [39:43]
Peter Rosenberg
No, Alan, get your grubby hands. Situation.
- [39:47]
Don LaGreca
Wait, Alan to Allen. How about a little remote from the Rock?
- [39:50]
Peter Rosenberg
Whoa.
- [39:51]
Alan Hahn
I'm, I, I, I don't hate this.
- [39:53]
Don LaGreca
Yeah. And Damien, would you swing by, come on the air. We'll have a good time.
- [39:58]
Damian Woody
Absolutely.
- [39:59]
Don LaGreca
All right. That.
- [40:01]
Alan Hahn
I say we do it.
- [40:02]
Don LaGreca
All right, well, we'll, we'll work on this. Off the air.
- [40:04]
Alan Hahn
Working it out.
- [40:04]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, I gotta be here, guys, right? I gotta be here.
- [40:07]
Peter Rosenberg
True.
- [40:07]
Alan Hahn
Peter's mad now.
- [40:08]
Don LaGreca
You've got to go farther than anybody. You're out on Long Island.
- [40:11]
Alan Hahn
But yeah, but if I gotta, I gotta, I have to catch this, this team, and I haven't had a chance to catch. Catch him yet.
- [40:16]
Don LaGreca
Peter, just hop on a train, man. Newark, New York, Penn Station. To Newark Penn Station. Bang, bang.
- [40:23]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. I don't hate it.
- [40:24]
Don LaGreca
Yeah.
- [40:25]
Peter Rosenberg
You know me. You know, Alan, we might maybe between us finishing up the show and puck drop, grab a little dinosaur wing, a little snacky snack. Come on over there.
- [40:33]
Alan Hahn
Like, I think we can sit with D. Wood, have a meal.
- [40:36]
Peter Rosenberg
Come on.
- [40:36]
Alan Hahn
The gentleman watch Smokey. I love it.
- [40:38]
Damian Woody
Let's do it.
- [40:39]
Alan Hahn
All right.
- [40:39]
Don LaGreca
Let's do it.
- [40:40]
Alan Hahn
They were always good, man. Thanks so much. We're going to work out Monday.
- [40:43]
Don LaGreca
Yeah, we're going to work it out.
- [40:44]
Kevin Clark
All right.
- [40:45]
Don LaGreca
So good.
- [40:45]
Alan Hahn
All right. The Damian Woodard report. And he said I wasn't crazy. He said I wasn't wrong.
- [40:50]
Don LaGreca
No, this is, this is starting to build.
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Peter Rosenberg
And there's a chance.
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Don LaGreca
This has got a far feel to it.
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
- [43:23]
Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Alan Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. You guys know what time it is, right?
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Peter Rosenberg
Telly time.
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Alan Hahn
It's game time. And it's brought to you by Tully Mardu Irish Whiskey. Because when it's game time, boys, it's telet time.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's Tyler.
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Alan Hahn
There's only one game on tonight. Locally.
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Don LaGreca
That's it.
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Alan Hahn
There's only one thing for you to watch. Watch tonight. It's your homework, all of you, that when you are done consuming this show, consume. Don legreco and the Devils on msg. They're at the Rock. That's prudential to you and me. And they're taking.
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Peter Rosenberg
I know it well.
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Alan Hahn
The Montreal Canadiens at 7pm that's the puck drop. Little 705.
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Peter Rosenberg
Puck drop. 708.
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Alan Hahn
708.
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Don LaGreca
We got an extra anthem.
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Alan Hahn
Look at you. You got eight minutes to go from our show to msg.
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Don LaGreca
Sure.
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Alan Hahn
And watch the game. Eight minutes. You know you gotta use the facilities. Get yourself a drink.
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Don LaGreca
You got enough.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's all you have enough time for?
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Alan Hahn
That's all you got time for. But that's it. That's all you got tonight. No excuses. Listen to Don Lagreca on the call. Devil's Canadians, msg, seven o', clock, Tullamore. Do the original triple distilled, triple blended, triple cast matured Irish whiskey. Be sure to grab a Telemardu or try the new tullam or du. Honey, during today's action, glasses up to enjoying telemardu responsibly. Eight minutes to pour a tullamore Dew.
- [44:49]
Don LaGreca
Now, who the devil's playing there, Alan?
- [44:53]
Alan Hahn
Sorry.
- [44:53]
Don LaGreca
Who the devil's playing?
- [44:54]
Alan Hahn
I said the Canadians.
- [44:55]
Don LaGreca
Right? So you know what that means.
- [44:57]
Peter Rosenberg
Nancy's in the house with.
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Don LaGreca
With.
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Peter Rosenberg
With children.
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Don LaGreca
Now, family is here today.
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Peter Rosenberg
Are the kids Devils fans or Marco? Because I know Jalen's checked out Blue Blanc and Rouge.
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Don LaGreca
Marco still needs to be won over. Maybe tonight will be the night.
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Peter Rosenberg
Where would he. Does he not have a hockey?
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Alan Hahn
Why does he still need to be won over because Dad's the voice of the team.
- [45:18]
Don LaGreca
I know. I. I think he is. It just that he's still in that age.
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Alan Hahn
He plays a cool.
- [45:23]
Don LaGreca
He's less than a month away from being 8. He's gonna have to declare on all these teams.
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Alan Hahn
Can we have him on the show? Can we have like an official. You know, like when a student. You declare your school.
- [45:33]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Alan Hahn
You pick a hat. Put the hat on.
- [45:35]
Peter Rosenberg
Wow, I like that.
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Alan Hahn
Three hats in front of him.
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Don LaGreca
How about this? How about this? Because it was a while ago that we did the fraud alert Friday open, but it's fraud. He's gonna be home tomorrow because he's got no school. We're going to. How about we get him in live to do a live fraud to see if he sounds any better?
- [45:54]
Alan Hahn
I like it.
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Don LaGreca
And we'll get him. And let's get him to declare.
- [45:57]
Alan Hahn
You wanted to get him to declare tomorrow?
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Don LaGreca
Yeah, to declare. Hockey, baseball, Wednesday.
- [46:02]
Peter Rosenberg
When's the birthday?
- [46:03]
Don LaGreca
December 5th, I think.
- [46:05]
Alan Hahn
Is December 5th a weekday? Because I think it'd be really fun to put him on video. It doesn't be live. And have him choose. It's a Monday.
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Don LaGreca
Oh, and I got a game. I'll be at the Rock and I'm gonna try to get him there for his birthday. But let's do this. Kind of like when a high school guy kid declared with college, picks his school.
- [46:27]
Alan Hahn
And then you could be the mom. Remember the mom that got up and stormed formed out because he picked the wrong school. He picked the school.
- [46:33]
Don LaGreca
Listen, we can lay all the hats out, right?
- [46:35]
Alan Hahn
I think it'd be great.
- [46:36]
Don LaGreca
That's Yankees, Jets, Giants, Eagles. Because again, the Eagles, there's gonna be a sway there. His best friend Bodhi's an Eagle fan. Do you even need to.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, why bother with it?
- [46:44]
Alan Hahn
We gotta have a talk. We gotta have a talk with Bodhi. Hey, listen, Bodhi, take a walk.
- [46:48]
Peter Rosenberg
Talk to me, buddy.
- [46:49]
Alan Hahn
All right.
- [46:50]
Don LaGreca
But he's got to be a Devil fan.
- [46:51]
Alan Hahn
No, I mean, that's what I mean.
- [46:53]
Don LaGreca
His favorite color is orange. So he does throw favorite Flyers out there.
- [46:56]
Alan Hahn
Everyone just moved to Philly then.
- [46:59]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, he's Eagles, he's Flyers. We got a problem.
- [47:01]
Alan Hahn
Don't do this.
- [47:02]
Don LaGreca
Well, again, he's got to declare. He's got a month I liked.
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Alan Hahn
I think we should do this again. I don't think we may do it live. I don't want to put the kid under any pressure. Take video of him choosing this hat. And I wouldn't even do it if I were you, I would let Nancy do it because he'd probably feel away if you were staring at him with those. You know, you have a very aggressive stare sometimes. Right. Doesn't he? Sometimes you just feel like, like, geez.
- [47:26]
Peter Rosenberg
Man, looking into my soul.
- [47:28]
Don LaGreca
Right.
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Alan Hahn
So have Nancy do it video. It's a. You don't even know the result. And then we play it on the air. Can we do that on the YouTube? Are we able to play video on the YouTube? Anthony is saying, yes, we are.
- [47:42]
Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
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Alan Hahn
All right. This should be fun. I love it.
- [47:48]
Don LaGreca
Thanks.
- [47:49]
Peter Rosenberg
Talk to some people. Yeah.
- [47:50]
Alan Hahn
800-919-3776. Marco is in Charlotte. Not Marco of Don Lagra fame, but Marco in Charlotte. Hey, Marco.
- [48:03]
Damian Woody
Hey, crew. I wish I was Donald Greco's son, to be honest. Wow, that would be nice. But anyway, Alan, I.
- [48:13]
Peter Rosenberg
I agree with.
- [48:14]
Damian Woody
You in a certain sense. I, I listen to everything that you say with Woody and I agree with you. I think Joe Barrow will be super fun.
- [48:23]
Peter Rosenberg
But I have one rebuttal to you.
- [48:25]
Alan Hahn
Good.
- [48:26]
Damian Woody
Aaron Rodgers is all the things that you say with him is exactly the same thing that we say before we traded for Aaron Rodgers.
- [48:36]
Alan Hahn
Right, but Rodgers was 40.
- [48:37]
Damian Woody
And what happened?
- [48:38]
Alan Hahn
But Rodgers was 40.
- [48:41]
Damian Woody
Yeah, but Boro is always injured.
- [48:44]
Don LaGreca
Well.
- [48:44]
Alan Hahn
Because he has a bad offensive line. The Jet offensive line is actually pretty good. He's had. He's had bad. He's had bad luck. He's had bad. Marco, I know it's hard. We're all going through it. We're afraid to love again. We're afraid to trust. I totally understand it. But this is in his presence. Prime megastar that if you could do it, I think you got to see what's the. What's the cost? Because we got plenty of money. Like all it is is money. What's the cost? You got to see if you can get them at least to answer the phone. Joe in the Bronx. Joe.
- [49:23]
Damian Woody
Hey guys, thanks for taking a call. So the only issue I have is your bringing an injury prone quarterback to the MetLife turf.
- [49:35]
Alan Hahn
And you know that's an accident.
- [49:37]
Peter Rosenberg
Waiting said the same thing. Agree.
- [49:40]
Alan Hahn
How many quarterbacks were the ones that got hurt on the turf? And don't say Rogers because that's because somebody fell on.
- [49:46]
Don LaGreca
No, but listen, it happens, right? I mean, so you can't. But you're going to find any excuse. Well, it's this, this becomes the conversation from yesterday. Well, it's the Jets. Anybody that gets going to get screwed up right far have injured his shoulder. Everybody ends up finding a way to get hurt. You know, Joe Namath had bad knees. So, so everything. So don't, don't try to do anything because anybody. They get it.
- [50:07]
Alan Hahn
Just. That was the next thing I was going to say. So then do nothing, because anyone you get could get hurt.
- [50:13]
Don LaGreca
Anybody you draft is going to be a bust. Anybody you go out and get is.
- [50:16]
Peter Rosenberg
Going to get hurt.
- [50:16]
Don LaGreca
So I listen, is Joe Burrow injury prone or was he in really bad offensive line and got hurt? I don't know what to tell you, man.
- [50:26]
Alan Hahn
I'm sorry.
- [50:26]
Don LaGreca
Gotta do it.
- [50:27]
Alan Hahn
The guy's that good. By the way, here's how injury prone he is. His first season, okay, he only played 10 games. 16 games. 16 games. Then he had another season where he only played 10 games. Then 17 games last year, now this year, yes. So what are we talking about? 12? Is it. Is it 12 games total in 6 years until this season. Now this season again, I get. I get this season. But it's not like every year he's hurt. He's had more seasons that he's played the whole year. So I, you know, listen, Rogers was old.
- [51:01]
Don LaGreca
Favre was old. Exactly. Not age. No.
- [51:04]
Alan Hahn
My God, he's in his prime. Like I. The apprehension, I understand, because we're all afraid to trust and we're all afraid to love. And I get it. He's 28 years old. He'll be 29 in December. This would be the time to do it. If there was ever a time.
- [51:19]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I'll tell you what it's the time for.
- [51:20]
Alan Hahn
What is it the time for?
- [51:21]
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Alan Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80. ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.