Hour 3: Knowing Your Bases

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Knowing Your Bases

Date: March 31, 2026
Podcast Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Theme: New York Sports, Mets-Yankees Drama, Relationship "Bases," and Sports Culture

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Episode Overview

Hour 3 of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg podcast dives into iconic sports debates, the nuances of team chemistry (with a special focus on the Mets' clubhouse drama between Lindor and Soto), and a spirited, hilarious dissection of the metaphorical "relationship bases." With classic banter, listener calls, and plenty of pop culture asides, the hour is a lively ride through the intersection of sports, society, and humor. The show maintains its trademark blend of sarcasm, sports insight, New York edge, and sheer entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Music & Cultural Banter (00:44–04:41)

• Huey Lewis & "We Are The World" Stories
  • The hour kicks off with a lively discussion about Huey Lewis and observations from the "We Are the World" video.
    • Don: "Michael gives this look of like, what in the hell is this guy doing? Who is this?" (02:57)
    • Peter: "Then you got Bruce, like, he's giving birth out of his butt—but he's Bruce Springsteen, so nobody says anything." (03:55)
  • The hosts jokingly compare and contrast the musical quirks of iconic artists, segueing into how perceived legends get away with more simply due to reputation.

2. Celebrating Stan Fischler’s 94th Birthday (06:01–08:38)

• The crew pays heartfelt tribute to renowned hockey writer Stan Fischler, emphasizing his impact both professionally and personally.
  • Alan: "If not for him, I would have never had my first television experience... he was always willing to give you a chance." (06:33)
  • Peter: Highlights Stan’s dual passions—hockey and the New York subway system—mentioning Fischler's books on both topics. (07:22)

3. The "Relationship Bases" Debate (08:45–13:33; 27:25–30:00)

• Semantic Sports-Relationship Metaphors:
  • The show launches into a spirited debate about what each "base" represents in romantic/physical relationships.
    • Don: "You're focusing on the wrong part...the thing that we're all in lockstep about is what is at first and then second." (09:26)
    • Peter: Disagrees with “second base” definitions, insisting: “I just cannot in good conscience put those two things on the same base.” (09:13)
• Societal Consensus (“What’s Second Base?”):
  • Don: “Society...has never...I've never heard someone say that.” (13:09)
  • Highlights on-air and production team polling—universally, Peter is outnumbered regarding “what’s second base?”
  • Frequent callbacks throughout the show and calls for a “podcast-only” discussion to drop their broadcast constraints and speak freely.

4. Mets Clubhouse Drama: Lindor vs. Soto (17:52–22:54)

• Caller Tessa’s Question: (17:52)
  • Raises concerns about potential tension between Mets stars Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor, specifically after a perceived snub (lack of handshake/hug on Opening Day).
    • Tessa: “Is Soto fitting in going to be the problem, or does the culture have to adjust to him? Because if it comes down to ego vs. chemistry, that’s an issue for the Mets.” (18:49)
• Host Reactions:
  • Peter: “When you want the world to know you don’t like that person, what you’re doing is, I want you to be on my side when the blank hits the fan...” (20:35)
  • Alan: “This gets cleared up very easily—if there’s nothing there, in a few days we’ll see them hanging out and that’s the end of it. Or, weeks will pass, and we’ll know it’s real.” (21:25)
• Cultural/Clubhouse Dynamics:
  • Discussion about leadership responsibility (the expectation that Lindor, as de facto leader, must address the issue first), and speculation over whether Puerto Rican-Dominican cultural rivalry may influence personalities. (30:10–31:07)

5. Jets, Geno Smith, and "Promised Land" Quote Outrage (32:15–36:15)

• Caller Cameron’s Question (NFL context):
  • Refers to Aaron Glenn’s “Geno can lead us to the promised land” quote, originally interpreted as hyperbole.
    • Alan: “When you see it out of context...the reaction is, ‘What promised land?’” (32:15)
    • Peter: “They're just trying to send the message to the tanking Jets world...we got Geno Smith to help us win games.” (33:53)
  • After playing the full Glenn quote, consensus is that Glenn simply means Geno can help the Jets be competitive, not that he’ll deliver a Super Bowl.
• Broader Sports Communication:
  • A reminder that media-sensationalized snippets often warp intent and context.
    • Alan to Cameron: “Did you change your mind now, when you heard it in context?” (34:57)

6. More Classic Nostalgia and Callbacks

• Random Patriots & NFL Player Debates (36:32–39:52)
  • Lighthearted “strange pull” conversation: which obscure Patriots players from the early 2000s would be odd references today? (Mike Vrabel, Ben Watson, Deion Branch, David Patton, etc.)
• Relationship Longevity & Sentiments:
  • Alan: “You know what I want? I want to live one minute more than my wife...I can’t live without her.” (45:44)
  • Podmates roast him with affection: “That’s very nice, Peter.”/“Now that’s cornball.” (45:52–45:59)

7. College Basketball Nostalgia & Yukon-Duke (47:01–49:52)

• Caller Richard: Old-school memories and lauding “four-year guys”: Dantley, Ewing, Ford.
  • Focused breakdown of Yukon’s impactful play and what separates clutch shooters.

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• On Music Icons & TV:
  • “You walk away from the label meeting going, nah, we’re all set here.” – Don (01:39)
• On Stan Fischler:
  • “If not for him, I would have never had my first television experience...he was always willing to give you a chance.” – Alan (06:33)
  • “His two passions: hockey and subways.” – Peter (07:31)
• On “Second Base” Debate:
  • “I have never...interviewed the greatest porn stars of all time...no one has ever in their life, said what Peter said was second base.” – Don (13:09)
• On Mets Chemistry:
  • “That first handshake was not nearly as warm and exciting as the rest of these.” – Alan (20:10)
  • “If you’re Lindor...you’re the one that needs to set that tone right away.” – Alan (22:13)
• On Living Long:
  • “It’s a level of arrogance to discuss.” – Peter (45:33)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:44–04:41 - Banter on music, "We Are the World" video, and generational pop culture.
• 06:01–08:38 - Stan Fischler's 94th birthday tribute and his impact on the hosts.
• 08:45–13:33 - “Bases” debate; origins, societal agreement (or lack thereof), and comic escalation.
• 17:52–22:54 - Calls about Mets soap opera: Lindor & Soto’s chemistry, leadership, and clubhouse dynamics.
• 27:25–30:00 - “Bases” debate revisited with more nuance and lighter, off-air wishes.
• 32:15–36:15 - Geno Smith “promised land” media coverage and the dangers of decontextualized quotes.
• 36:32–39:52 - Patriots nostalgia and what constitutes a “strange player pull.”
• 45:44–46:45 - Alan’s “one minute longer” with his wife and the affectionate crew reactions.
• 47:01–49:52 - College basketball history, four-year greats, and breakdown of Yukon-Duke tourney moments by Richard.

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Tone & Style

• Friendly, irreverent, deeply New York, with sharp humor, familial ribbing.
• Fast-paced, digressive, but always circles back to sports and life.
• Engaged with callers and listeners, amplifying community/tribal sports radio feel.

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Summary Takeaways

• This hour blends classic sports radio staples—music riffs, sports metaphors, team drama—with distinctly New York flavor and self-aware entertainment.
• The Mets’ leadership question looms amid an early-season culture clash, echoing broader themes of ego vs. chemistry in pro sports.
• The ongoing “bases” debate spotlights both generational and social shifts in how youth discuss relationships, and how radio shows can leverage innocence and innuendo for engaging content.
• The show deftly handles both serious and lighthearted topics, demonstrating why local sports talk remains both insightful and entertaining for its core audience.

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Transcript

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, back 502

[Alan Hahn]

in the big city.

[Don Hahn]

In the big city, if you will.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, and I will.

[Don Hahn]

On what was a a nice day that got like sort of increasingly rainy vibey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was thunder showers in the forecast.

[Don Hahn]

Did they ever. Have they come?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. We've been stuck in the studio. I have not been outside.

[Alan Hahn]

How dare you. I feel cozy and happy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get it. I'm just saying we haven't been able to see.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm happy to be stuck with you.

[Don Hahn]

Wow. Oh, Huey Lewis Stuck in the middle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the song. That's the song that plays on our wedding dvd.

[Alan Hahn]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's for like when the menu nice.

[Alan Hahn]

Just playing in the background. Everybody just happily talking. Yeah. I'll be happy to be stuck with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You familiar, Peter?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, I am, of course. But not my favorite Huey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Alan Hahn]

Definitely not a But a nice I'm not a go to Huey.

[Don Hahn]

Huey's another one that like the Oregon Trail that like in the label meetings describing what Huey Lewis of the News is going to be. I think you walk away going nah, I think we're all set here.

[Alan Hahn]

Wasn't that wasn't their first album called Sports?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that was like their.

[Don Hahn]

That was like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that was later second album or

[Alan Hahn]

third one of their.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but they're definitely one of the

[Alan Hahn]

randomly called four Sports. Oh, four. Right. Well I see he did like the

[Peter Rosenberg]

golf Working for a Living. The first song was. Was good. Working for a Living. Working.

[Don Hahn]

He has a lot of. He has a lot of great songs. I'm a fan now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We can't hear.

[Don Hahn]

Is that true?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he needs like a box like he was on Kimmel or Fallon or something like last year or something. He's got like a put up like a box on the desk so it could to modulate the sound because he

[Alan Hahn]

can't hear anymore clearly from.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, from just all the rock and

[Alan Hahn]

roll back and when you're Doing concerts like, you know, the singers are wearing what we wear the ifbs. And that's some. If it's.

[Don Hahn]

Well, you know. But no, but he. He might have been from an era where they weren't getting to wear the good in ears. And maybe they were wearing stuff that just wasn't good or nothing at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the drummers always had it because they were the closest to the speakers. But what? The guy, you know, 15ft ahead didn't need it. Of course he did.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Crazy.

[Don Hahn]

So now. Yeah, now everyone wears the molded in ears. And I think it creates a much better situation. I love Huey Lewis. And also can't stop laughing at that video of We Are the World. When they're all sitting around hitting their parts and Michael hits his part and then it gets to Huey Lewis and he's like. And we. And Michael gives this look of like, what in the hell is this guy doing? Who is this? Like, it's just different level. We all. We all do things differently and do them well. But what this guy's doing is not.

[Alan Hahn]

Doesn't he follow Cyndi Lauper?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, the whole spot.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. He does the stand together as one. And that's when, like, Michael. They're supposed to do the We Are the World there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And Michael's looking at him when he does it like.

[Don Hahn]

But when Cindy's not exactly, you know, Celine Dion either.

[Alan Hahn]

So, I mean, she hits full Cindy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But to defend Huey Lewis. All right, he was. It was. This is 85. The band's been out for like two years.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you know, then you got Bruce, like. Like he's given birth out of his butt. Right.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he's Bruce Springsteen, so nobody says anything.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Fair. Right. Not. And then you got, you know, and then you got Bob Dylan, God love him in like a Members Only jacket. But he's Bob Dylan. He could have spit in the microphone every day. Like, why didn't I think of that?

[Don Hahn]

No, Dylan's horrible. And there's nothing vocally good about it at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everybody's, like, in awe. Like, oh, my God, Bruce. Oh, my God, Dylan's here. Boy. You know, Huey just being Huey, but because it's 1985 and he's like. He's barely known Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, if that was Dylan or Springsteen next to Michael Jackson, Michael would be like, oh, boy, this is amazing.

[Don Hahn]

I think Michael. Yeah, that Michael impression was even worse. I thought Michael.

[Alan Hahn]

That was a different Michael.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, behind the scenes Michael.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? That was Neverland. Michael.

[Don Hahn]

Wow. You really got in there.

[Alan Hahn]

What?

[Don Hahn]

You know, it's a fair point.

[Alan Hahn]

Not that choice of words.

[Don Hahn]

Well, listen, there's. There are other drops that are even worse. If I was to bust that up, you know, it felt like music for kids.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Don Hahn]

I was a big kids guy, though.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, of course you were.

[Alan Hahn]

We got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got Jacob. But you didn't help with.

[Alan Hahn]

Of course you were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, Jacob, by no fault of his own, just like stumbled into something, something and you had to like, put the spotlight on.

[Don Hahn]

Don't miss this, by the way. Both of us were completely unaware of what was happening. Like, I wasn't thinking you were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seriously.

[Don Hahn]

As God is my witness, I meant because of the age. Jacob was talking about his appreciation for an album called Kids. And I know Jacob's age, so my. Of course you were was. Of course you were. You're the exact age that it was

[Alan Hahn]

aimed at and it just didn't.

[Don Hahn]

It came out. It felt like music for kids.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Don Hahn]

I was a big kids guy, though.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, of course you were. It's not great. As we said before, you next year

[Alan Hahn]

you get away with nothing on this show.

[Don Hahn]

How else is that supposed to age?

[Alan Hahn]

No quarter given on this show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, did Jacob ever wear his clothes backwards?

[Don Hahn]

No. Different conversation.

[Alan Hahn]

All right.

[Don Hahn]

Different day, different artists, different music with

[Peter Rosenberg]

all this going on. And I don't want to forget because the Show's only till 6:30.

[Alan Hahn]

Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I want to wish a happy 94th birthday.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, my God.

[Alan Hahn]

To the maven, Stan Fishling and the man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Still going at it, still writing articles. He's living in Israel now, so we don't get a chance to see him that often, but he's still around the hockey world, still making comments, still, you know, getting people to call me and like, ask Don what he thinks of Joe Sakic and who. Who now plays like Jose, like he still can't get enough of the sport. And he's a gentleman and he's a scholar and he's a fantastic human being. He's a lovely 94 years old human being.

[Alan Hahn]

And if not for him, I would have never had my first television experience because he would come up to me during a game and say, intermission, come down to the studio. Because he would do intermission on some of the Islander games and he would want a guest and he would have me sit with him and he would. We would just talk about the first. The first period or whatever it was, and it was like the first real TV experience I ever had and it was because of him. And he. And I would say, I'VE never done this before. Oh, you'll be fine. Just sit down. Just, you know, we'll just talk. He. He was. He was always willing to give you a chance. And he was always willing, if you needed, just to talk some hockey or get some perspective. Whatever it was, he couldn't wait to talk to you about it. And he was the first one, anytime you had any type of achievement, the first one to call you to congratulate you. So what a terrific human being he was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you may you. A lot of people may not know this. His two passions. Maybe. Alan, you don't know this. He's written books about both.

[Alan Hahn]

I do know that hockey and.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And subways.

[Alan Hahn]

Love his book on the subway.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Infatuated with the subway system in New York.

[Don Hahn]

The man loves the subway. That's what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And listen, it's not nothing. I mean that there's a huge history there.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It doesn't interest me, but the book is interesting. He's all the IRT and all the story behind it. Not the same year, but he trolley cars. He shared a birthday with perfectly fitting Gordie Howe. Whenever it was Gordy Howe's birthday, I knew there was Stan Fish's birthday. So. Happy 94th. 94 years young.

[Caller or Guest Aaron Glenn]

Stanfish.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's a run. You signing up for that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Michael wouldn't take it, right, Peter?

[Don Hahn]

No, no, I think he would.

[Alan Hahn]

You gotta take man.

[Don Hahn]

I think if he's being serious, I'm gonna text him. He's going to say no because he likes to be that guy. But like I think if he's being serious, any human who wouldn't take 94 is out of their gourd. You'd have to be completely deranged. Like worse than the broker who told me that he was going to let it go and I might comment. Didn't land. That's. That's 94 you take 10 times over.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Again, Stan Fischler is 94 today. Do you take it send? Let's see.

[Podcast Host Don Hahn]

Wow.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Michael. Michael, I had texted earlier about your thoughts on second base.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you say?

[Don Hahn]

He does not agree with you either.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, well, what does he say?

[Don Hahn]

He was saying that what Don was saying would be getting. He believed getting tagged up between second and third.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that's not a thing.

[Don Hahn]

It's not a thing. But he was on board that it was not second. I think there's a universal belief in second. And that's the part that you're not getting.

[Alan Hahn]

Really need to write.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I gotta tell you, I'M just saying I understand. I understand completely where you're going, but I just cannot in good conscience put that those two things on the same base. They're completely different.

[Don Hahn]

But you're focusing on the wrong stages of the relationship. You're focusing on the wrong part. It's not about the two things that are on third. We can argue about those things whether they're on third or not. I think the thing that we're all in lockstep about is what is at first and then second. It starts there, and then we can get to third and have a conversation

[Peter Rosenberg]

about home is that home is the destination.

[Alan Hahn]

Home is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what you're arguing is there needs to be more than four.

[Don Hahn]

No, I'm arguing there needs to be. You know, yes, it is possible that that four, that may be a home run includes a multitude of things.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that can't be.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I mean, it is. Let me ask you this, though. Don't you consider any of the things that end up at home being a great night, like it kind of is

[Peter Rosenberg]

a home run on the stage?

[Alan Hahn]

No, you can't do that, Peter, because.

[Don Hahn]

Why not?

[Alan Hahn]

The whole idea of the home run.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Is that there's no further to go.

[Alan Hahn]

You went all the way, quote all the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So there's. There's a certain state made. If you looked at it from a relationship standpoint. That's the. That's. That's it. Right.

[Don Hahn]

That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's. There's no place else to go.

[Alan Hahn]

No, can't go any further. There's no fifth base. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. But. So you're focusing third and home. But I'm sorry, if the. If the other thing happened, There's a. There's still a destination between the third and fourth. Yeah, I hear a big difference between third and at home.

[Don Hahn]

Listen, we can all have a conversation about that and we're happy to have that conversation with you. What none of us will agree with you on is what you said is at second base. That is the one thing we're all coming together on the logical place. But it's not. But the thing is, the society. Joe, have you been told already? And real quick, Joe, I'm looking at Joe Leo, the Nets fan. Joe Leo, do you agree that you've never heard of what Don said is second base? You've never heard of that. And what you've heard of Anthony, does he agree with what we've all said? Second base is? And you agree that is second base. So Joe Jolio's another person girl's number,

[Peter Rosenberg]

and he calls It. And it's not like a tire company considers that.

[Don Hahn]

By the way. And by the way, Don, you've told us stories. You've told us some stories of your high school lore. Joe's gonna stop coming in here. You're acting as if it. You're acting as if in high school you were, like, in a boy band. I mean, from the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's how I'm the perfect person to break this down.

[Don Hahn]

Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because I was. Because I was not a home run hitter.

[Don Hahn]

You were dreaming.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Percentage was what they would call poor, but yet I still lived in that time and I still hold it to that standard.

[Don Hahn]

But I'm telling.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not dumb this down. This is the reality. Of course, Google kids don't even leave their house anymore.

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

But.

[Don Hahn]

No, but, Don, I've been having this conversation. I don't know if you know this. I've been doing the radio thing a long time. I've been doing the podcast. I have so many conversations with so many people in front of microphones about so many topics, and back in the day, so many inappropriate topics. Porn star interviews, endless conversations about all of these things. I have never. And I've interviewed some of the great porn stars of all time, put them in the hall of fame. They're all stars. I've never. But I mean real, actual stars. No, no one. I agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Character actors.

[Don Hahn]

No, you're right, But I know C.J.

[Peter Rosenberg]

walsh of porn.

[Don Hahn]

You're right. You're right. But I'm talking about. I'm talking about the ones who deserve. The ones that deserve to be in a special place in history. The Gianna Michaels, the Sarah Js, the people who have made Jacob's face lit up. These are icons.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I understand.

[Don Hahn]

No one has ever in their life, and these are people. I don't know if you're aware of this. They got ahead of the base curve pretty early. They've. I've never heard someone say that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, you know what? I think that if I had a chance to really break this down, I would win them over, because I think I have a winning argument.

[Don Hahn]

I understand, but it's not. But Alan, will you explain to him during the break, it's not about the argument. It's just that that's not what society.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no. I. I think we. We have to have this offline discussion or maybe podcast type discussion.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Love what you did.

[Don Hahn]

So, speaking of lots of bases, I have the Mets starting lineup. All right, this is your amazing starting lineup, brought to you by Ramsey Mazda. Now, Don, this may be the actual position of what you're talking about, okay? Between second and third. The shortstop leading off is Francisco Lindor. I think he's right there, Don, his best friend, batting second and playing left.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what we got to figure, correct?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's possible that Soto said, you know what?

[Alan Hahn]

Go to third base.

[Don Hahn]

Boba Shet is playing third. And batting third, Lou Boba. Yeah, Lou Bob is batting cleanup, playing center. Young playing first, batting fifth. Viento, sixth in the dh. Simeon, second base, batting seven. And I believe it's pronounced Ben. Yay.

[Alan Hahn]

No. Yep.

[Don Hahn]

He's playing right and batting eighth.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to help him, Benji? Yeah, Benji. Or just Ben?

[Don Hahn]

Are you giving any E or are you just going Ben?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, I think his nickname is probably Benji, but it's just Benji. Wouldn't you call him Benji, though? Like he's. Yeah, of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

Like. Like that'd be the nickname in the room.

[Don Hahn]

But Torrens catching and batting ninth, and Kodai Senga on the hill for your Mets.

[Alan Hahn]

Are you. Are you watching this closely? I mean, you got a game to do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

So not even a little?

[Don Hahn]

Not even. Not really.

[Alan Hahn]

It looks like nothing. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm always second screen between periods as I'm going to walk around the garden and tell everybody what we mean by first base. Second base, third base, home.

[Alan Hahn]

I know if I have a game when the Yankees are playing, I'll probably have it on my. On my screen. No. Second screen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait a minute.

[Alan Hahn]

But not every fan, because all of

[Peter Rosenberg]

a sudden you want me to listen. Listen.

[Don Hahn]

Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You want me to pull a John Shambi when John Shombie had two baseball games on, all of a sudden he started calling the one off the tablet.

[Alan Hahn]

That was funny on the air. That was funny, Peter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You want me to start talking like Rangers, Devils, and all of a sudden, Lindor RBI single.

[Don Hahn]

I would. Well, I would be tickled for the show.

[Alan Hahn]

It would be great for the show.

[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's do it.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, let's go.

[Don Hahn]

Including Tessa and Wes Caldwell, who we had so much fun with at Calandras a couple of weeks ago. What's up, Tessa?

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the call. I appreciate it. Don, you know I was devastated that you were sick, right? Like, in my mind, I don't care. Get like a throw up bag. I don't know, Put like a warm rag in your head. And I wanted you there, but I was just so happy to still be able to meet Han and Peter. So it was nice, but I'm definitely gonna try to make the next calendar event so I could just listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everybody's like. Because I started getting tweets from people saying, you know, the, The. The. The heart is far. Like, Like I was not showing up. Listen, you can't have like a meet and greet get together when. When you're. When you're as contagious as I was. That. That's all I know.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

I heard you the day before. I was happy you didn't come, but selfishly, I still wanted you to wear a mask and come, but it's okay. But I understand. I'm just joking around. But it was. I even told Han and Peter. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, I'm so sad, Don. Not here. But it'll be another event, so I'll definitely be able to make it and be able to meet you. But I'm happy you're getting better now, even though, you know you still have baby cooties a little bit. But, you know, Alan stayed there. I would stay there with Don. It's okay. Get the cooties.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

It's all right.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

But I did it. Okay. But I did want to make a point. Like, as a Yankees fan, this whole, like, Soto and Lambert thing is hilarious. But as a baseball fan, I wanted to really be serious for a second, a quick second, and, you know, make a comment and ask a real, like, important question. Like, I feel like it's kind of slow down the beginning of the baseball season sometimes. We need things to talk about. Whether it's a talk, argue, whatever. Great. But late in the season, I do feel like, you know, as a Yankees fan, if I was in a Mets fan predicament, I would feel like, well, what's really going on here? We shouldn't be talking about this any longer. Like, I feel like Juan Soto is a generational bet. That's why I was upset when he left us. But I do feel like he's that type of talent. That's no doubt. But he chose this comfortable setup. He knew exactly what he was walking into. And I feel like Francisco Lindor, he's been holding it down as a leader, a team first guy. Like, he just has such a bubbly personality. Like, I like him.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

He's.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Since he became a man. So this is my question, and this is like, what I really be thinking about. Like, what's going to be a problem? It's Soto fitting into that culture over there, the Mets, or will the culture have to adjust to him? Because if it really comes down to guys like, ego versus chemistry down the stretch, that's not going to be drama, that's not going to be beef, that's not going to be.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

None of that.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

That's going to be a problem and a real issue for the Mets. And I think it's going to come down to that because I think that it is about Soto's ego. I think he feels like Lindor do need to, like, bend me, kiss the ring and all of the. Man, I'm this, I'm that. And I don't think that's what it's about over there. They got to come to the table together to try to help the Mets win. And I'm talking this as a. I don't. I don't care. I want them to lose. I'm just saying as a sports fan, baseball fan, like, you gotta like, everybody see what happened with Kobe and Shaq and what, what it could have been, you know what I mean? But neither one of them could come to the table. So it's like, when it comes to this, I feel like they literally need to come to the table and just like, really put it to the side. They don't have to be friends outside of the field. But for the, like, you just draw an unnecessary attention, guys. You get what I'm saying?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, the thing that bothers me about it is why. Why can't you just keep this to yourself, right? You don't have to like everybody, but when you're on the field, like, what happened on opening day, where you just see he went out of his way to not dap up and hug Lindor. Like, that's like wanting to let people know we got a problem.

[Alan Hahn]

It felt. It didn't feel warm. Like, again, if everybody else came out and it was just did the same exact. Just by moving over, but because everyone else wasn't a handshake embrace. Handshake embrace. At the very least, if not other things, that's what made everybody stop and go, wow. That. That first handshake was not nearly as warm and exciting as the rest of these.

[Don Hahn]

So which.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which tells me this, that when you want the world to know you don't like that person, what you're doing is, I want you to be on my side. Then when the blank hits the fan, you're going to be on my side. You don't think that happens in the clubhouse? Guys, like, all right, are you a Lindor guy or a Soto guy? Like, even if you don't openly petition for that, you are going or campaign for it. You're going to have people that are going to side with one or the other. Does that sound like the chemistry? You want to go out there and win a championship? So, again, I don't want to blame Soto for this, but he's the one that treated Lindor like that. I don't know the whole story, and maybe he deserves to be treated that way. I don't know. But suck it up. At least pretend you're trying to let the world know I don't like this guy. How did. How does that help anything?

[Alan Hahn]

Doesn't.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, this is going to be. Listen, this gets cleared up very easily, by the way, just to be clear, if they gotta ask him if there is nothing there, like, it's literally just the media being ridiculous, social media being ridiculous. Guys, in three days, we'll see them hanging out and kicking it, and everyone goes, well, that was ridiculous. Or weeks will pass, we'll never see any interaction with them at all. They won't dispel it at all, and you'll know it's true.

[Alan Hahn]

Yep.

[Don Hahn]

That's just a. That. That's the bottom line. We will have an answer on it one way or the other. Guys, if everyone was wondering if there was a story, it actually just happened. It literally just happened. Everyone was speculating. Did me and Michael K really hate each other? Oh, I went on the air and ruined it forever. Like, nope, sorry. I know it's funny, but no, we don't hate each other, guys. It's ridiculous. That's all you got to do.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's as simple as again, guys covering the team are going to see this as becoming a topic and the first thing you're going to do. And I mean the clubhouse, they're in St. Louis, right? So the clubhouse open. Yeah, so it's already open. Those conversations should be had right now, like, let's get to it. And if you're Lindor and you are the de facto leader of this team, you're the first guy that's got to talk about it. It's up to you. If Soto doesn't want to talk about it, if he's not as easy to get anything out of him, fine. But Lindor, who's been here for a while, you're not the new guy. You're the one that needs to set that tone right away.

[Don Hahn]

Exactly.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, we're good. No, everything's fine.

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Note we will be off at 6:30 for Rangers pregame and starting at 7. Rangers Devils can only be heard one place and that's the ESPN New York app. You download the ESPN New York app, you download the app. So you're all ready for tonight's 7pm puck drop. Rangers Hockey It's New York Rangers hockey and it's only on the ESPN New York app. The Mets continue their series with the cards coverage on 880 at 7. We just gave you the lineup for that. Knicks rockets coverage on 1050 at 7:30. Isles Sabres in Buffalo at 7:30. Next Hornets which you really wow. I mean to say you dream about it is a lie. And the Yankees continue their series with the Mariners at 9:40. Tullamore Dew the original triple distilled triple blended triple cast matured Irish whiskey Be sure to grab a Tullamore Dew or try the new Tullamore Dew. Honey, during today's action, glasses up to enjoying Tullamore Dew responsibly. And with all that, we go to Danny on Long Island.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, perfect.

[Don Hahn]

Hey, Danny.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

Danny from Long island, who's just back from a five day whirlwind trip to get rescue my mother from the beautiful

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

weather of Florida to bring her back

[Caller or Guest Danny]

to Long Island Spring.

[Alan Hahn]

And here we go.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

So listen, Darla, a couple of things. One, you're completely right about Van Halen. I grew up more than you guys. The Jump was my least favorite Van Halen song. Playing a lot of the greatest hits on my. On my player in the morning. Almost underrated when you put, when you line up a lot of your best

[Alan Hahn]

songs, Danny, the early stuff, 1, 2, women and children first. Those albums are insanely good.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

And I have a warm spot in my heart for some of Sammy stuff too. He was more of a rocket, like David Lee Ross. He wanted to take the band a different direction. That eventually led to the breakup. Secondly, you're wrong about the. About home, first, second base. And I refer to my guy Meatloaf, who put it beautifully to lyrics in 1977 with the help of Phil Rizzuto. Paradise on the Dashboard Lights. We all know what home is. Elaine Bennett even knew what home was when she told Keith Hernandez. I check with the third base coach because I don't think he's waving you in. There is only one. There is only one home. And if you look at the picture of Lindor getting thrown out to play today with the gloves smushed right in his face, that's what it looks like when you try to call home and got rejected.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

That's the look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, then you're leaving out everything then.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

No, listen, it's the final destination.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

I'm sorry.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, we're not going to go

[Caller or Guest Danny]

any further than that.

[Alan Hahn]

That's literally. We're all trying to go home. We're all trying to get.

[Don Hahn]

Why don't you just go home?

[Alan Hahn]

Just go home.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

But I will say for your home.

[Don Hahn]

But I will say, yeah. In terms of what this whole ridiculous, archaic concept is supposed to be, Alan, you're right. Like, that's why I conceded the point because it was based on this archaic. You know, you're teenagers and you're thinking about this home destination.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

My point that I was trying to make of how you argue. It's all the same. That's more of an older point in life when you're Just saying what equals. What equals a good night was had. But what you're talking about, what you know what that means. And you're right, you can't remove the significance of that thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

This would make such a great podcast that will never exist.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, if we could only just do this as a podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I, I agree that I am kind of looking at it from the stage of where are you in the relationship? How about that? Rather than what happened last night?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, sometimes it's not even a relationship.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, sometimes the relationship is. Was it, was it hour? Was it minute 15 or minute 30? You know what I mean?

[Alan Hahn]

Sometimes it's just, you know, but just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But unfortunately by the, the right bar, the medical aspect of it. So some of the bases takes, you know, more 30, 40 minutes to get to.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Don Hahn]

And from a medical aspect, some of the bases could have more of a long term effect than the other ones. Let's go to Ivan in Connecticut. What's up, Ivan?

[Caller or Guest Danny]

Hey, how are you guys? It was a long time call time is our first time caller. So excited to be here and shout out to Pusick and Jacob in the

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

back and not forgotten.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

But question for you guys, going back to the Soto and Lindori thing. Just a thought. Obviously being a fellow Puerto Rican, you know, Lindor being Dominican and I mean, sorry, being Puerto Rican instead of being Dominican, you think there might be some underlying maybe from the World Baseball Classic that might have to do with it. Just, just a random question to ask because I know you guys were on that, so.

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

But I love you guys. Thank you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

I can't speak to the culture impact. I don't know if the WBC is creating this because this is something that was apparently again, based on reports, nothing brewing from last year. Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know enough about the cultures. Like, is that an instant rivalry? All right, you have rivalry, but this seems like I don't like you.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't care about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I can't even stomach to pretend to like you and give you the hug on opening day, like so. And that's real. Listen, I don't love everybody. I don't like everybody. There's some people I just can't stand. But when I decide to make it public, which I think what Soto did, by the way, he didn't embrace Lindor on opening day and yet embrace guys that been with a team for five minutes tells me he wants the world to know this. And to me that's really showing true hatred. Like, I can't even pretend to like you again, which is fine, but weird. If it's gonna affect the team, then that's when I got a problem with it. There's a. Is a big season.

[Don Hahn]

Let's go to Cameron in Jersey. What's up, Cam?

[Caller or Guest Danny]

What's going on, fellas?

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

How we doing today?

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Good.

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

Good. Hopefully down. I know you were sick, but hopefully you Gucci now you're feeling a little bit better. But I want to first ask because I know. I want to make sure I heard it correct earlier, but did you guys kind of say you felt like it? I think it, you know, a nothing burger, basically, when it came to Aaron and Glenn's comments about Geno Smith and leading them to the promised land earlier today.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, we. So. Because when you see it out of context, which is what was all over social media, just the quote, geno can lead us to the promised land. End quote. That is seen everywhere. The reaction right away is like, what promised land? Like, what are you. What are you trying to say here? Because if we're all wondering what is the promised land in the NFL, we know it's the super bowl.

[Don Hahn]

So.

[Alan Hahn]

So right away it becomes this thing we want to mock until you. It put play the entire quote. And you realize what he's suggesting is he can get us to the end zone, right? We. We don't. We have a quarterback that can actually get us in the end zone. And that in that context, you're like, oh, well, yeah, yeah, that makes sense because he can.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And this was my tease that we didn't get to earlier is that I really think what the jets are trying to send the message out to is we're not tanking this year.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We didn't get Geno Smith to play points poorly so we can get the first overall pick in a quarterback heavy draft. I think they're trying to send a message out, we like Geno Smith. We think we can win some games with this guy. We can score some touchdowns, we can score some points. What was the problem last year with this team? They could not score. There were winnable games last year. That Panther game jumps to mind where they just could. They kept getting stops and they couldn't take advantage of the field position, could not score, could not move the football, could not get a first down, could not explain.

[Alan Hahn]

Fields was bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I think when he says that, he's not talking about the long term. They might only have Geno Smith for one year.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's talking about, we think we can win with this guy. We think we could do Some thing. They're just trying to send the message to the tanking jets world that, hey, we didn't get Geno Smith to help us tank. We got Geno Smith to help us win games. So I think people have completely taken out of context.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm sorry, go ahead.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

All right.

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

And that's why we have communication, because I took it. I was the one who probably took it out of context and didn't hear the full quote. And that was probably more so thinking of. He was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Have you heard it? Have you heard it? Or you just read it?

[Alan Hahn]

Let's play it.

[Don Hahn]

You want to hear it again?

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

No, I just kind of. I just kind of read it short.

[Alan Hahn]

Keep him on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

He changed his mind.

[Don Hahn]

All right. All right, Here is the great Aaron Glenn talking about Gino, something about a quarterback.

[Caller or Guest Aaron Glenn]

And I'm going to say a quarterback with a chip on his shoulder. And listen, he's proven a lot in this league of what he's done, especially when you take those time when he was in Seattle, listen, he fits exactly what we're trying to do. So obviously we've created an identity. The foundation of our offense is pretty good now. Like, I just feel like. Like he's the guy that's going to lead us to the promised land. He's the guy that's going to touch the ball more than anybody else on offense. And listen, I know he had his struggles, and I think a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they have their struggles. If you look at the last five years, the guy has thrown the most interception. I mean, the top guys are up there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I feel like the caller.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you change your mind now? When you heard it in that context?

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

When I heard it in the context, yes. When I first just kind of saw the headline in a quote, I was like, all right, here's another misstep from.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

Right Anglund.

[Caller or Guest Cameron]

And the kind of preface. And just to be honest, like, I'm a Raiders fan. So I was thinking like, oh, if he thinks Gino's gonna lead him to the promised land, then he has something else coming to him. I was just thinking, like, especially because what I was basically coming with was that if we remember his comments last year from. With talking about Justin Fields or talking about, oh, Justin Field, you know, had nightmares. I stayed up late trying to game plan around him when I was in Detroit. And I'm thinking, why put this unnecessary pressure on Geno? Basically putting a target on his back by saying he's going to lead you to the promised land. But after hearing it Then I. Cameron.

[Don Hahn]

But Cameron, in all fairness, you can't base anything surely on your Raiders experience. I mean, 1986, Joe Montana could come to the Raiders and play like hot garbage. I mean, you guys are literally a football abomination. So that's.

[Alan Hahn]

Offensive line whatsoever.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, that's. You can't believe. Don't put that on.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

You're right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're right.

[Don Hahn]

Can't put that all on, Gene. You know what I mean? And I wish you guys the best.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And that's why he said Seattle, because he threw 4,000 yards twice in Seattle. Right.

[Don Hahn]

No one wants to. No one wants to be reminded of the Vegas.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now Smith is not leading to a Super bowl. And that's not Geno's fault.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's older and the team's just not good enough. Probably not even good enough to make the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

But he can get him in the end zone every now and then, which is a far cry from last year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now and then, how many games do they win if. If it approves to being an abomination to. Hey, we score now and then seven wins. Yeah. Now you're a seven win team and you're playing meaningful games around Thanksgiving.

[Alan Hahn]

Wouldn't that be nice?

[Don Hahn]

Well, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, it's 2004 and Pittsburgh is up 3413 in the fourth on Tom Brady and the Patriots. But Tom Brady just had a great and important completion to David Patton for 7 yards.

[Alan Hahn]

So how's that season going to go?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why is David Patton a strange pole?

[Alan Hahn]

He's just.

[Don Hahn]

Is David. Is he not a strange pole at this point? He feels so. 2004, Don, in reality, from. Think about it. David Patton. When are you ever thinking about him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Isn't everybody on that offense?

[Caller or Guest Richard]

Yes.

[Don Hahn]

Honestly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Side of Brady and. Or when he got Randy Moss as a strange pole.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Troy Vincent was playing. Not Troy Vincent.

[Don Hahn]

Troy Vincent. Troy Brown.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Troy Brown was playing wide receiver for them at times.

[Don Hahn]

No, no. Well, Troy Brown was a wide receiver. He played quarterback for them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what? Now you know what? It was a strange.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

You know what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not even remembering.

[Don Hahn]

Let's start over again. First.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All of a sudden I had one of the. You know, the former head of the players association on the Patriots.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, that would explain a lot of things.

[Don Hahn]

Well, no, and by the way, Troy Vincent who was a defensive back playing wide receiver would have been interesting during his career.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that would have been.

[Don Hahn]

But it didn't happen like that. But Troy Brown did, of course. Go play corner. Would Deon Branch at this point be a strange pull.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no.

[Don Hahn]

Deon Branch, not a strange pull.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't think so. Dion Branch is a known.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, he's known as one of Brady's guys.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

What about Kevin Falk? No, no, not a strange pull.

[Alan Hahn]

Not a strange pole.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was he the one that tore up his knee in a flag football beach game or.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that was Aaron Boone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, that was like a basketball game.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Who was the guy that I know Wasn't him. No, I don't think it was him.

[Don Hahn]

Well, now I'm determined. Now I want one of these Patriot guys who you guys would actually consider a true strange one on the 04 team. No, no, no. Just any of them. I don't care. They're all the same, Don.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They don't say I wasn't it all.

[Don Hahn]

No, on offense, you gotta think, by the way, Troy Brown, big pickup.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about.

[Alan Hahn]

How about Mike Vrabel?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if you want to do offense,

[Don Hahn]

though, an offensive, because I would. Because Troy Brown, to someone who's like a kid would be a strange poll. Like. But to us, he was a big part of the early team, so he's not really a strange bull. He just. None of these guys were superb players. They were good players.

[Alan Hahn]

Corey Dillon.

[Don Hahn]

Corey Dillon, Certainty. Now we're getting into a conversation.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. He had good, good years, but. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Cincinnati, New England.

[Alan Hahn]

Cincinnati.

[Don Hahn]

Cincinnati. To you and me. I have to tell you.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

After the break, I do want to hear from Richard. We have not heard from Big Dick on the Yukon Duke game. And you know he's going to have a lot of things to say about that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about Ben Watson?

[Alan Hahn]

Ben Watson's a good one, too.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, the tight end.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

1-800-919377.

[Alan Hahn]

How can we do this? It really is stupid.

[Don Hahn]

No, it's.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's funny.

[Don Hahn]

It's the best that Alan. You want to know, stupid, is that you and I are still trying to get our. The Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday joke over.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, that's. Well, we all know what that. Anybody that pays attention knows what that's a reference to.

[Don Hahn]

I don't. And I do it as an homage.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I do it as an homage.

[Don Hahn]

Who are you doing it to?

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is it?

[Alan Hahn]

Mad Dog.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, that's. That's a mad dog.

[Alan Hahn]

Never says the days of the week normal. He's Monday.

[Don Hahn]

I never knew.

[Alan Hahn]

It's been. I grew up with that. I loved it when you say. My grandmother used to talk that way.

[Don Hahn]

When you say Tuesday is it Tuesday.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all she'd ever say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When I think of Monday, I think of Solomon Grundy.

[Don Hahn]

That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what comes to my mind.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that's a great one.

[Alan Hahn]

He had a good. He had a good run. What was he? What was he?

[Peter Rosenberg]

He played both sides.

[Alan Hahn]

Played both sides of the ball, didn't he?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We were watching something during the break. How did he pronounce Ulysses S. Grant?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, Ulysses.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ulysses.

[Don Hahn]

All right, how about, guys? How about the. How about the catch by David Givens of the.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Yard yard.

[Don Hahn]

He's Batting second point right at Lindor.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

Right ass.

[Don Hahn]

And maybe. Maybe Lindor will be on first when it happens because Lindor is leading off, you know, Right?

[Alan Hahn]

He'll just stop.

[Don Hahn]

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[Alan Hahn]

thing you could do if you were Lindor and I'm Soto? I. I smash one, you have no choice, right? You got. You're in first. I hit one out, walk right off. Do you just take your time? No, no, don't let me get a trot.

[Don Hahn]

Because you're just.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you do?

[Don Hahn]

You're on third base. You just directly walk to the dugout.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

What?

[Don Hahn]

You asked.

[Alan Hahn]

No, Doc, no, that's not petty.

[Don Hahn]

That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's a fireable offense. I'm talking about. What's a petty thing that could just annoy Soto so he can't enjoy the home run. What would be the petty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, the slow trot.

[Alan Hahn]

Slow, slow trot. Possible. So he can't get a good jog

[Peter Rosenberg]

in, and then he passes him and then he's out.

[Alan Hahn]

And then you touch home and you don't even wait for him. Walk right to the dugout.

[Don Hahn]

High five.

[Alan Hahn]

And everybody, everybody, if you hit the

[Peter Rosenberg]

home run, everybody meets him at the plate. Have you. Now, I had text Michael earlier because stan Fischler turned 94. Would Michael take it? Yeah, and he has returned the message. And he text me, I would need more.

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How much more?

[Don Hahn]

Like, he needs more than 94.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, more than 94.

[Don Hahn]

He's. He's a yo yo. I'm sorry. He's a yo yo. Does Michael. Respectfully, time goes fast. I know that. Okay, we all want. We can get Michael's what, 75?

[Alan Hahn]

He's not 65. 65.

[Don Hahn]

All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, Don will tell you, Alan, he deserved that. I can't do it enough times to make him deserve it enough. Am I right, Don?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is true.

[Don Hahn]

He does. I only started this game because he does it to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Don Hahn]

When I. When I turn 40. Oh, Peter's turning 50. It's his favorite thing to do. So he's 75. But no, if he's 65, you're telling me it's 65. Another 30. Doesn't sound pretty good. What are you, nuts? He'd get to see his kids as, like, full on adults with kids. Like, the whole thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he'd be able to be a grandpa. Now, listen, if he knows he's going to be Stan Fischler and still with it and still working and still, then that's a different story.

[Alan Hahn]

That's true. Like, what am I at that age? Because if I'm like. If I'm useless, like, can't move all the problems, you know? I told you, my grandmother, she hit 90. She's like, I'm done. And that was it. She was perfectly healthy. Yeah, but once she hit 90, she let Christmas pass. And then she's like, all right, I'm out. Yeah. For all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For all. You know, 94 could be year seven of wishing that you didn't wake up every single day. You don't know what your life is going to be. So 94, man. Honestly, it's a level of arrogance to discuss.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what I want? I want to live one minute more than my wife.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Alan Hahn]

Because I can't live without her.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's very nice, Peter.

[Don Hahn]

It's very nice, but I wish. That's it. What's the cornball drop like? We need a cornball.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no, no. That's.

[Don Hahn]

That's how I corn pone. What's the.

[Alan Hahn]

That's how I feel. No, I ever heard those stories about the couple where the one or the one and then the next one just goes right away. Is that not the most romantic way?

[Don Hahn]

But then why would you go. But wouldn't you rather go reverse then?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, no, because I can't control when she goes. Yeah, but I don't want to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This whole thing is corn pone.

[Alan Hahn]

She. She has to.

[Don Hahn]

She has to die because I died, Chris.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, I mean, that's the perfect scenario. But you don't know when she dies yet. Maybe you'll die a minute later. Maybe you'll live another 15 years.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know if I want.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You gotta go first. And we're men. Men always go.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, you gotta go first.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what?

[Don Hahn]

You can't go second.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You gotta go.

[Alan Hahn]

I gotta know she's gone.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

No. What?

[Alan Hahn]

This is a weird.

[Don Hahn]

You actually ruined the take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They may actually. He actually made a really nice thing about him.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, he made. He took a beautiful thing and he ruined it. And he's like, yeah, I drive a Dodge truck.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

I don't think this was. You know what I Had to. I had to take it off course

[Alan Hahn]

because you guys are killing me for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's.

[Don Hahn]

Let's clean this up with Big Dick. Hey, Richard.

[Alan Hahn]

I mean, hi, Don.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

Peter Allen.

[Don Hahn]

Robert Woods.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

I think that's what his name was, Don. The guy that ripped up his cell in the sand woods, wasn't it? From New England?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, maybe I got to look it up because I bother you football.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

And you know, Don, I'm thinking about you. If UConn loses the next game of the championship, none of that game will mean anything for us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it will hit completely different. You're right.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Right.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

68 games in the tournament, Allen, you give me one game a year. Like we had the Yukon, Duke game. I don't need Florida. Florida Atlantic. I don't need San Diego State. I don't need VCU, St. Peter's I don't need any of those. George Mason, you give me one game like that. You mention the first NBA floppers. No question.

[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Rick Barry.

[Caller or Guest Richard]

Man, he was terrible. He would get on the reps, flail his arms, put his head back in the 60s. I remember that guy. He was the first complainer.

[Alan Hahn]

Did not know that. I know he was a big free throw guy, but I did not know

[Caller or Guest Richard]

that's why he wanted to go to free throw. To show everybody his free throw. Now you guys mentioned Adrian Dantley. Dantley, Phil Ford and Patrick Ewing are the three greatest four year college ball players that started every game from day one until the day they graduated. Those are the three Bentley, Ford and Ewing Christian. I'm not sure if he started every game his freshman year, but he was great too. Now that brings me up to Cariban. Nobody is talking about the play that Caliban made. Only a four year senior who's played in over 140 college games and I think 16 tournament games. He got the ball after the deflection with 3 1/2 seconds left and had the presence of mind to no look to pass to Mullins. You fellas, the shot was great, but let's face it, any NBA player could have hit that shot.

[Alan Hahn]

Richard, I know you listen to the show a lot. We literally yesterday I think we. Peter and I broke that plate down and we literally were talking about the wherewithal to pass that ball. Yeah, and the fact that Mullins has each set had a better. Like Mullins even said he had just made a three. I wanted to get it to him because he's the hot hand. And he looked at me like, no, you're open, you take it.

[Don Hahn]

It was.

[Alan Hahn]

It was so much about that play that we talked about. And then we had Malachi Smith on it. And what did he do? He said the same thing.

[Don Hahn]

And also we did talk about that. I know, I know. Richard just gets excited. So I don't want to poo poo his whole point, but he threw it at the end. I mean, we know an NBA, any NBA player can make that shot. No, first of all, great shooters in the NBA could make that shot. And could they make that shot with the game on the line? Now you're talking about an even more limited amount. That is a. Yes. He was an open shot from beyond

[Alan Hahn]

NBA three in madness. 45ft, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They said yeah.

[Don Hahn]

I mean 45. If it's 45, that's 10ft beyond NBA three. That's a. That's a very long shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All the pressure and Richard was right. Robert Edwards. Robert was the guy that Rob. Robert.

[Alan Hahn]

Robert Edwards.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Robert Edwards.

[Don Hahn]

Bob Edwards. You and me.

[Podcast Host Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to Madonna and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don Hahn]

I don't want to know how the

[Alan Hahn]

sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

[Podcast Host Don Hahn]

Hear more of Don Allen and Peter. Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Caller or Guest Tessa]

Well, that's cool.

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[Don Hahn]

Maybe there's no catch.

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That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.

[Caller or Guest Danny]

Wow.

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