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Peter
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Griffin
Hey guys.
Don Hahn
Hey guys.
Rosenberg
What's up?
Griffin
That's probably the second best moment in My hockey lifetime, along with one of the Capitals won the Stanley Cup. The excitement and all the Eddie into that game. And then, and then that third period. I know, talk about.
Rosenberg
Why don't you try to give us a call back? You got a bad line and you're on hold for a while.
Peter
And plus, we got it. I agree.
Rosenberg
I never got any video of him twirling his shirt. I did see somebody, one of the, one of the viral videos of somebody watching, it did take off his shirt and twirl it. But I've met Griffin, but it wasn't the grifter. It was not him. John in Mawa. You're on espn, New York. Hi, John.
Caller (John or Tom)
Hey, guys, how are you?
Don Hahn
The show.
Rosenberg
Thank you.
Caller (John or Tom)
Love the game. And I just have to ask you guys, is there any way you could put in a rule? I'm six, I'm a 66 year old white guy. When somebody calls in and says, I have to apologize for my whiteness, Just, just cut him off. It was hockey, it was a game, we loved it. Everything was great.
Peter
The caller didn't apologize for his whiteness. That he didn't do that.
Caller (John or Tom)
He was, he did, Peter.
Peter
Part of it was part of a point he was making. He never said, I'm sorry, I'm white. He said, as a white guy, I think sometimes it's easy to say, to have the privilege to say, hey, let's just concentrate on hockey. I hear what you're saying, but that's not the white.
Caller (John or Tom)
The white privilege is just. I, I'm so done with it. I. My parents.
Peter
Imagine how black people,
Griffin
my grandparents came
Caller (John or Tom)
here from Italy in 1910. Okay, we, we didn't do anything. We're not. I'm 66, I was born in 59. Nothing happened where we didn't do anything.
Peter
So then, so let me ask you a question. Sorry, Don. Allen, just cover your mouth for a minute. I know this crap. So if.
Caller (John or Tom)
Why is it, Peter, Why is it crap?
Peter
Not intense crap? I said I. Let me just say if I did. I didn't mean that. Let me just make this point. If you're saying you're sick of it and your family had nothing to do with this, this always puzzles me. What is it about people talking about the fact that racism exists? What is it about that that bothers you? Like if you haven't been a part of that, you don't believe in racism.
Rosenberg
You.
Peter
That's not what your family did.
Don Hahn
Who.
Caller (John or Tom)
I don't believe. No, no, no, no. I believe. I 100% believe in racism. I Was raised in an Italian family in the Bronx. So I completely believe in racism. What I don't understand is in a discussion about Olympic hockey, why does it need to default to. As a white person, I'm not allowed to enjoy this. I don't understand. That's what I don't understand.
Peter
How did you take that from Doug?
Rosenberg
What he said was, and John, thank you for the phone call. Was that, like, he's privileged to be able to watch this because of his situation. And not everybody is in the same situation that he's in. What I'm saying is even the people in that situation can take three hours and say, let's enjoy this game and not make it about any statements or anything. Everybody's going through what they're going through. You decide you want to make it political or some sort of a statement made, that's on you. But I think what he's trying to. What the caller before was trying to say is, is that I'm privileged to be able to watch this without the same worry that other people have.
Peter
Well, and even privilege to be able to say, either, hey, let me just enjoy this for three hours, or not. The caller is making the point that we're living in times that for some people, they're not able to say, hey, it's Sunday. Let me just enjoy some hockey. They may not. That may not be what their life situation is.
Don Hahn
That is, you say, the only thing that I would say to this, not that I'm adding anything to it, is that there's always been a time like that. It's not. We're living in a time like that. It's always forever been like that. What I think some people would just like to be able to do is out of 24 hours, if for 23 of them or 22 of them, I'm thinking about all the things in the world that concern me for two. Can I just. Just not think about it, right? Just for two. Is that okay? And if that's privilege, two out of 24 hours, just let me enjoy.
Rosenberg
You're right. There's always been. There's always been issues. Right.
Don Hahn
Forever.
Rosenberg
Forever, forever that are way more important than a stupid hockey game or basketball game or football game.
Don Hahn
But sports is yours. But at some point, get away for a minute, just.
Rosenberg
And it's funny because the caller was saying. I think it was the same caller. We're saying, I, I know this is the toy store. That's the point.
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Is there. Can it just be. Let's put all of our differences aside. And let's all have the same rooting interest.
Peter
Well, the thing that does make this slightly more complicated is the Olympics part.
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Peter
Like this would be even, even more ridiculous to talk about when you're talking about professional teams who all just play in a league. The problem is the Olympics are by its nature sociopolitical. Don, what's Michael's way of describing the Olympics? What's the phrase?
Rosenberg
What is it?
Caller (John or Tom)
Commercialism?
Peter
Draped to the flag? The draped in the flag part is a big. A big piece of it. So you can't. That's tied into lots of emotions, feelings,
Don Hahn
Tommy Smith, John Carlos, that the black, Black Glove moment was one. It's very iconic sport moment.
Rosenberg
And that's because they decided.
Don Hahn
Right.
Rosenberg
To make it political.
Don Hahn
Exactly.
Rosenberg
I don't think anybody on the US side had any interest, had any intention of making anything political. But some things happened that other people were able to gravitate to, and they decided to make it political. And that's the issue that I have,
Don Hahn
that's my point, Don, is that when the athlete chooses to do it, that's the athlete's choice to do it. When outside people take the athlete's moment and turn it into something, to me that becomes disingenuous.
Rosenberg
And Peter's right. You know, 1980 was wrapped around what we were going through. It was fresh off of the hostage situation. We were in the middle of a gas crisis, which was obviously affected by the Middle Eastern situation. We were in a Cold war with Russia.
Don Hahn
Yeah, we were in emotional depression.
Rosenberg
But the point was, is that the issues that our country were going through, at least the perception at the time was like 90, 10. Like everybody felt that what was going on, like the Cold War, we were all on the USA side. What was going on with the hostages. We were all on the USA side. So there was no other side. We were all kind of together. We were depressed because we're getting beat up by these other countries. And we rallied together because we're all on the same page. We're not on the same page anymore, and we'll never be on the same page anymore, sadly. And that's what's sad. Because no matter what we go through as a country, whether it's Covid, whether it's 9, 11, whether it's a hockey game, there is always going to be a significant amount of people that will be on the other side of the issue. And that's the problem we have with our country. We can never be united. There is never anything that we're all going to be able to gravitate to. Because we've all gone in the last 25 years. We've gone through some stuff, guys, and nothing's been able to bring us together. Not 9, 11, not Covid, nothing. Because that's the frustrating thing that finally for three hours I was able to sit there and watch my country represent itself and put its best foot forward. And we still couldn't have that moment.
Don Hahn
No.
Rosenberg
And it makes me sick. I'm sorry.
Peter
Listen, I get it.
Don Hahn
Retweet all of it, Don. All of it.
Peter
Take a hard look and think about. We can all have different theories on how we got here, but we are here now. And I would say we've been here
Rosenberg
for about 10 years.
Peter
It's been really extreme.
Rosenberg
I think it's fair that maybe that just. That's just the progression of this country. Because when I grew up, every election was a landslide in my lifetime. So that obviously told you that we were all kind of on the same page because whoever was elected president won easily. But then since the hanging chad, every election has come down to a recount, which tells you how divided the country is because we can't even choose a president anymore because we are so divided now. What made that happen? I don't know. Maybe it's just a natural progression of things, you know, and eventually we'll mature into something else. And I don't know.
Don Hahn
I hope.
Rosenberg
I hope so too.
Peter
God bless.
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Rosenberg
You're on ESPN New York. Hi, Danny.
Caller (John or Tom)
Just the guy Peter wants to hear at this moment. First of all, all us old people, all these old people can stop telling the youngsters how it used to snow back back when we Were kids, we used to get a lot more snow because according to ice flip airport, this is the most snow they've ever recorded. Long island, there was an ice flip airport.
Rosenberg
Who is it? Alan? Did you tweet that or Anthony? Somebody tweeted like we're talking 30 inches.
Don Hahn
30. 30 inches at ice Love airport is.
Rosenberg
Oh my God.
Don Hahn
Insane number for Long Island. It just doesn't make sense.
Caller (John or Tom)
I had 30 inches. I parked both cars in the driveway. So when the plow got done plowing up the snow, I had to go. I had to gut my way through about 4ft of 7 foot snow, but it was. I looked like I was standing in an iceberg. Got it done, took a hot shower. And I'm a worker. That's what I do. You do what you got to do with life.
Rosenberg
Do what you got to do.
Caller (John or Tom)
Listen, I was, I was at the gym yesterday watching the game. Couldn't hear any, any voicing. Just watching the game was all the sets. Everyone was on the treadmills. And poor lady next to me almost, when I scored the goal, she jumped up for a second, forgot she was on a treadmill. She almost got killed. Yeah, because she jumped. Everybody's. No, everybody's got the headphones on. No one's talking, but everybody's watching. And then all of a sudden at once, you just felt like the vibe of it happening. And then I went home and I went on with life prepped. My, my preparations for, for the big storm. And today I was out digging them at work. I didn't realize there was any controversy because when you have a full, happy, active life, you have no time for this nonsense. So I got into the office today, I pop on my favorite show, you guys, and they're talking about it. So I, I see what went on and then I do a deep dive and I see that, that the Patel was in the locker room. So I read about it. He played hockey as a youth. He's a big hockey fan. He's friends with some of the players and they invited him in. And he plays adult hockey still. You know, the name of the team is the Dons, of course. So he said, this isn't some guy who is not emotionally invested in the team in some way. Did he go a little over the top? Yeah, because he's really into it. So if you want.
Peter
A lot of us, a lot of us are into it. A lot of us are into it. We just don't spend $75,000 of taxpayer money to go to the game.
Caller (John or Tom)
Well, see, this is the cc so. But if you would be just as interested if it was in Philadelphia, you'd be just offended. That's. That's.
Peter
I still would think it's not ideal. I still. Danny would think it's not ideal to have someone from, like. Someone like Cash Patel. All right, we're not talking about the.
Caller (John or Tom)
So that's somebody don't. Like random.
Peter
Random person from the administration. Not the president to be there chugging beer in any alternate universe we've lived in. Guys, I'm going to say this right now. Sorry. The FBI director chugging beers would look insane. We would go, what the hell is going on? Why is this happening? But this is where we live.
Caller (John or Tom)
I can go back. I go back over the course of my life. John Lindsay drinking champagne with. With the. With the 69 Mets. I stood next to Ed Koch in a mets dugout in 1986, getting ready to charge the field. Ed Koch would know a baseball from a football.
Rosenberg
That is true.
Caller (John or Tom)
Politicians do that. It's what they do. If it was, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be upset. You're upset because who it was, not because of what he did. That. That's what's bringing the controversy to the issue, in my opinion. I don't have any problem with it. I never thought it was Obama. I would have a problem with jfk.
Peter
You're naming president, not FBI directors. Because if it was J. Edgar Hoover.
Caller (John or Tom)
Oh, come on. People could take jk. Give me a break. The FBI director.
Peter
Danny, Danny, Danny. Are you suggesting that the role of president is viewed by the people the same as every other person in the administration? It's not the same. It was an odd thing.
Caller (John or Tom)
I'm agreeing that it was an odd thing. But in this case, this guy is a hockey fanatic and he was there and he was invited. And the key word is invited.
Rosenberg
But what's interesting is that. And it just shows how polarizing everything is that if in 1980, the FBI director partied with Team USA, no, nobody would know who the heck he was because nobody knows who the FDI FBI director. But now we know all this stuff because everybody is so polarized by everybody that's in a position now.
Don Hahn
Well.
Peter
And there are people out there who feel that there's something massive going on that the FBI director should be investigating every single day, and he's not. So you have to remember there is a huge controversy hovering over our country right now that directly relates to. To the man who was chugging beers. So people can't just forget that.
Rosenberg
Right. But everything like, or, you know, just, just to play devil's advocate, you know, we could be like Obama every year would do his, his March Madness, right? He would take espn, would put it on there and they would have like a half hour. Like somebody could have said, you know, there's a lot of other things going on in the world. Why is he worried about filling out his bracket? We've got a country that it's all, everything is going to be perceived.
Peter
George Bush had his baseball stuff, right? And George Bush, it never was. It wasn't as big a deal. George Bush in baseball, Obama and basketball. Listen, it wasn't as big a deal then. We're now,
Rosenberg
you know, but, but everybody has and I know you, so I know that there's no, not necessarily any agenda, but not, that's not how everybody, I just looks at things.
Don Hahn
I just wish Al Gore never invented
Peter
the Internet, honestly, that you want to be mad at a Democrat. It's Al Gore for inventing the Internet.
Don Hahn
His he's the big, he's the real problem. He's the heel.
Peter
Now we're stuck with this forever.
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Peter
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Griffin
Hey, guys, I'm sorry about that. That was an awful my got really bad that time. I don't even felt like I was underwater.
Rosenberg
Yeah, that's all right. You're back.
Don Hahn
We were worried about you.
Caller (John or Tom)
Yeah, I'm good.
Rosenberg
I'm good.
Caller (John or Tom)
This is better.
Griffin
Now. That moment was probably second. Like I was saying, the second best hockey moment of my life other than when the Capitals won the Stanley Cup. Because Alan and Don and Peter, you all, you all were alive when the 1988 the Miracle on Ice as 26 years old.
Rosenberg
Peter was like six months old but
Don Hahn
embryo.
Griffin
But I'm 26 years old. I didn't see the Miracle on Ice. I didn't see the moment. So in my lifetime, this is the biggest moment of USA Hockey and the. The. The. The overtime goal by Jack Hughes will be the moment. But, Al, you've been always saying you don't trust Connor Hollabuk in a big moment. Well, this was one of the biggest moments ever. And Connor Hollabuck, all the demons that he might have just. Just disappeared in that thing or whatever, he had. The third period, his third period was probably the best period of his career because that. The third period, the. The Canadiens were keeping pressure and pressure and pressure, and he wasn't even allowing anything. And that faith that he made was amazing. But on the two breakaways, too, the way he was able to stop on the two breakaways, Conor Holbrook was a big reason why we were able to win goal. And I was so happy the way he played yesterday.
Rosenberg
Yeah, the McDavid breakaway, it looked like McDavid kind of was too quick for his own good and just ran out of real estate and didn't get a shot off. But the celebrity one was a great save.
Don Hahn
Yes.
Rosenberg
On the breakaway. And yeah, even Alan said he's never been known as a Monday goaltender. That's over. Doesn't look like Winnipeg is going to make the playoffs this year, so he won't be able to show it in this postseason.
Don Hahn
But how do they respond to him, his first game back?
Rosenberg
Well, Auston Matthews, too. Like, you know, Austin Matthews is going to Toronto, Winnipeg.
Don Hahn
Don't you, like, you acknowledge your Olympians when they come back? That always happens, right? The player is introduced or something's happened. Did what? Like, what do they do?
Rosenberg
I think they boom. As crazy as that sounds, right? I mean.
Don Hahn
And Don, I think Frau alert Friday we might have some cases of some Ranger fans who are watching that game and Jack scores. And for a minute, you got to love them.
Rosenberg
I only brought up with Brodeur versus Richter because I'm like, bro Doors, a forever devil lean. He's the goaltender who's going to wear the loss. And I still rooted for usa, but I'm like, here's a bit of a dilemma. Come on. I mean, J.T. miller and Vincent Trojek are not forever Rangers, you know, and. But if somebody out there was upset. Jack, you scored. I don't know what to tell you.
Don Hahn
No, come on. No, but. No, but. But I'm curious of what the judge would say about. Well, that moment.
Rosenberg
I don't. I don't know. And I didn't look to see if Toronto or Winnipeg are home, but there will. The NHL will have resumed, so we'll see. Like, how will those. How Will Winnipeg react to the return of Connor Hellebuck? And congratulations, Kyle. Connor.
Don Hahn
Connor Hellebock, for winning the gold medal at the Olympics. Let's welcome him back.
Rosenberg
The Leafs are on the road in Tampa, so I'm sure he'll get back.
Peter
Doesn't hit the same one I got.
Rosenberg
I gotta check in Winnipeg. All right, just really quick. Tom in Eastchester, you got left than a minute? What do you got?
Caller (John or Tom)
Okay, guys, so this is a call in regard to Friday show. I wasn't listening live. Friend texted me, told me that Brockport was being mentioned. I listened to the show after it was done. I really appreciate you saying Brockport was one of the better suny. Peter, Peter, Peter. To not even know we exist, to not even acknowledge Brockport's existence, I think I'm. Give me forgive you. I am willing to forgive you. Okay, if you can tell me. If you can tell me. There are two ESPN New York radio personalities who are Brock Portal up. If you tell me who at least one of them is.
Peter
Carl.
Caller (John or Tom)
I can forget.
Peter
No, Tom Carlin.
Rosenberg
It's not Carl. One of them used to work with us, Peter.
Caller (John or Tom)
Yes, really. And that to me is troubling, that you can't remember.
Rosenberg
All right, Tom, thanks for the call. We gotta go. Who? RJ Santillo. Really? Talk to you tomorrow at three.
Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Peter
I don't want to know how the
Don Hahn
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ESPN New York | February 24, 2026
In this lively and provocative episode, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg, and Don La Greca take calls and dive into the aftermath of Team USA’s dramatic gold-medal win in Olympic hockey. Candid discussions emerge about privilege and race, the unifying—or dividing—power of sports, and the controversy over a political figure celebrating with the team. Callers from across the tri-state area weigh in, sharing personal stories, frustrations, and memories of sports moments. The hour pivots from deep social commentary to good-natured sports banter, offering the show's signature blend of debate, nostalgia, humor, and New York attitude.
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Memorable Moment:
[26:45 – 27:42]
This episode stands out as an unfiltered portrait of the intersection of sports, society, and politics—delivered in classic New York fashion, with callers and hosts alike contributing raw opinions and heartfelt sports memories. Whether bemoaning America’s divisions, celebrating a “miracle” win, or lampooning the age of internet-fueled polarization, Don, Hahn & Rosenberg offer listeners spirited, authentic conversation with insight and laughter—making for both entertaining and thought-provoking radio.