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Peter Rosenberg
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
Don Hahn
That sounds like heaven to me.
Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
in the big city. Don Han and Rosenberg with you till 7 o'.
Geno Smith
Clock.
Don Hahn
The Mets got rained out, so that means full frontal. Two more hours.
Peter Rosenberg
I know I bring this up only like once a week. Once every two weeks. I just wanna say for the record, I don't think for most people the term full frontal means a complete radio show. I mean, you say it, you have now started saying it where you just know. You just treat it as if that's what people know. When you say full frontal, it means a full radio show.
Don Hahn
I'm not seeing an issue here. You're not making any kind of point.
Peter Rosenberg
I just wanna remind people that it's not about nudity. It's about the show is gonna go till 7 o', clock, which is our scheduled full showtime.
Don Hahn
No, I understand that. Understand that we have a video vehicle here with the YouTube. I don't think anybody's expecting nudity when I say it. I think they know what I'm talking about. And I just decided to take a little ownership of that.
Peter Rosenberg
You say it. But it's now the only phrase that we say for a full show.
Don Hahn
Well, it's the only thing I say. It's my thing. Why can't I have a thing?
Peter Rosenberg
Don, I want you to have the thing. I just need to tell people in case.
Don Hahn
Do you really think you need to tell people? Are there people that are right now?
Peter Rosenberg
You know what? Call us right now if you listen to the show. And when Don says full frontal today. Have you ever been confused? 1-800-919-3776, Don, it is 5O', clock, the holiest of hours. But I did, I did miss one thing, though. For the talk about it.
Don Hahn
Go ahead.
Peter Rosenberg
Very briefly, my friend Chanel's, who's a wonderful person who helps me out on a lot of stuff. Her mother passed away last week suddenly.
Don Hahn
I'm sorry to hear that.
Peter Rosenberg
Very sudden only 69 years old.
Don Hahn
Okay, that's very young.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, very young. And instead of my friend Chanel going on her, her bachelorette, a party because she's getting married in a few weeks.
Don Hahn
Oh, that's tough.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it's. It's a Friday the 21st, I believe. Actually, I'll be working for. I may have to leave a segment early because I have to get to the wedding. But instead of going to a bachelorette party, she's now, you know, handling her mother's funeral arrangements. Terrible scenario, Don. She goes to JetBlue, who's the airline she has traveled for her bachelorette party. And it's a monstrous bachelorette party. I want to say I've never heard. She has too many friends. She has a 24 person bachelorette party. That's a lot of people. No, it's. You got to trip the triple. They're all traveling. I couldn't find 24 people like me enough to travel for me. I want to be clear right now.
Don Hahn
Well, you might have had 25. You might have had 24 people come to the party.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, if it was local. I mean, listen, I couldn't get you guys to show up on a bed. But, but you know, you think. Anyways, that's neither here nor there. So she goes to the airline. And yes, it happens to be JetBlue, which is just. I love a JetBlue person. But this, by the way, I hear these stories about all the airlines. So no one's, no one's above it. By the way, none of you advertise with us. So I have no loyalty. And she goes to them with all the proof of stuff which you're supposed to. They charged every one of the people who were going on her trip $135 change fee to be applied to the credit. So they all, they can change their ticket, but they've all lost $135.
Don Hahn
That's robbery.
Peter Rosenberg
It's robbery. It's, it's.
Don Hahn
And she showed the death certificate and everything she had, everything looked like George Costanza taking a Polaroid.
Peter Rosenberg
She has all the paperwork and says, I have whatever you need. You know, assuming they would just, you know, do the right thing and no, they want to charge. So. And it's so short sighted. These companies, the airline industry is floundering and they, they don't see the forest of the trees, Don. They'd rather take the 135 from each person and have all these 24 people not be interested in flying your airline again.
Don Hahn
Exactly.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, why not? They'll all still fly with you. They'll. They'll take the trip at a later date. Just at least give them the full credit. They're not even saying give cash back, but don't take $135 out of the credit. You can't just give them the credit. It's still money going to you.
Peanut
Yeah.
Don Hahn
And not because, oh, I just decided to change my mind.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah, we like the next weekend better.
Don Hahn
You know what? You know. You know where this all started, I think, Peter, where was during COVID because so many people were canceling flights. And then once everything kind of settled down, people were, like, still saying, oh, yeah, I got Covid. I can't fly. You got to give me my money back. And they finally just decided, no, Covid is no longer an excuse. Sorry. Because people were using it. I just wonder if that was all the money that was lost during that time of people that canceled their flights and then never flew, that they're now just being really stingy with it. But I was passing away.
Peter Rosenberg
Can you imagine, though?
Don Hahn
Don't show the death certificate. Listen, there's a party. We booked 24 flights. As crazy as that sounds for a party, I'm showing you the death certificate of why we're not going.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, the person cannot go. Right.
Don Hahn
Here's the death certificate. Like, that's not. Oh, we decided not to go. Or say, you know, claiming somebody got sick or like, no, this is it. What else are you supposed to do? Still go.
Peter Rosenberg
That's the thing. There's no option. So it's just.
Advertiser/Announcer
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's just so frustrating when you hear of companies doing things like this today. And can you imagine if you had told the people flying in the early days, Don, like in the 60s, the early 70s, that one day the seats would be like, you can't fit into them. The prices would be through the roof. You'd have to pay for a bag. You'd have to pay to select your seat. But I have a question. Why am I buying a ticket if I have to pay when I'm selecting my seat? Was there an option I could be on the plane with no seat.
Breece Hall
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
So why are you making me pay for every single seat? I have to pay for 37F. Now, listen, I'm not flying 37F. Look at me. But at a time when I was. Seriously, that's crazy.
Don Hahn
I know. It used to be so much more luxurious, and it was never. I'm not saying inexpensive, but it just seemed like he got a lot more for your flight. And Listen, most people nowadays, Peter, like, a lot of people are flying because they have to, you know, whether it's business or because of emergencies. Like, there's probably less a percentage of people flying because they just want to, you know, and it's. Listen, it's. It's a lot, man. It's crazy. I mean, I go through traveling, you know, with the Devils and with the Rangers before that. It's. It's. It's crazy bag. You should see the things that I'll stuff into a carry on before I'm going to pay money to have a bag.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, I mean, the length to which you'll go.
Don Hahn
Yeah,
Peter Rosenberg
I feel you. I do everything to avoid having.
Don Hahn
The only time I'm taking a carry on if I'm not on the Devil's charter is if, like, I'm going to. I got no choice. I'm going out for eight days, and it's like, there's no way. But otherwise. And even when you have the carry on, if, God forbid, you're group four, there's no overhead room anymore, and you still have to check the damn bag. You're lucky if you'll be able to pick it up at the gate. Otherwise they'd just have thrown it in baggage. Anyway, you still got to go and get it.
Peter Rosenberg
Natalie and I are going on vacation. We're going to Mexico. You and I discussed this. Yeah, because you're good. Because you can't drink the water.
Don Hahn
I'm good. So it's a big deal.
Peter Rosenberg
We're going to Mexico on the 8th of August for a week. And in booking the trip, even though the business class is not, like, particularly special on either of these flights down, you know, like, they're the regular ones. They're just like, two seats together. There's no sort of bed or any sort of crazy thing. But I did it mainly because traveling with the baby, to be stuck in one of those mini rows like I just did to Europe, both ways. We booked Maya a seat, and we had a coach row. And I'm like, oh, it's fine. We'll have a whole row. There's no room in front of you to do any. You can't physically move with the baby. So while she's under two, even though my parents are gonna yell at me that it's too dangerous and I shouldn't do it, I have a plan, and I'm gonna have it handled. Don't you worry about it. We're gonna enjoy having Maya in lap while we can for another few months. So we bought Two business class tickets instead. So we can at least have a tiny bit of room on the flight to, like, be able to, like, stand her in front of us for a moment if we need to, or, you know, God forbid, feed her a meal. There's just no room to do anything. And by the way, it's not as if coach tickets are cheap.
Don Hahn
No, it's not.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, when we booked our tickets to go to Italy in coach, it was like, oh, nothing. No, it was. You're still talking about $1,100, some insane amount of money. So it's just we are the consumer, currently is treated like garbage. It's like the conversation we always had about jet season tickets. It now applies to everything. We all keep spending the money, so they don't care. But the problem with travel is you can't really stop. No, I mean, everyone wants to take a vacation. Unfortunately, God forbid, like my friend Chanel, people have reasons. They. She had to go fly to Belize because her mother was there and passed away. There's always gonna be a reason you to travel. So the airline companies can give you worse service, less space. This is our talk. I'm sorry. We did a second talk about it. What do you want? It's Tuesday, for God's sake. But it's really.
Breece Hall
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's a nightmare. And I know I give you a hard time about, why don't you guys travel more? You know, what, you're doing it right.
Don Hahn
No, it's a big expense and. And uncomfortable, you know? And then you talk about how traveling via air was easier than, like, wasting the time to drive, how early I got to get to go through security and all that. Like, if it's a. If it's a driveable place like Boston or DC Forgot. I'll just drive. By the time I get my car and head to Boston and you head to the airport, get there on time, go through security, taxi on the Runway, hopefully not get delayed. I'm halfway to Boston before you even
Peter Rosenberg
take off, believe me.
Don Hahn
And then when I pull up to the hotel, I get into the hotel, you. You land in in Boston, you land in Logan. Now you got to get in a cab to go to the hotel. I'm sleeping by the time you land, but by the time you get to the hotel, but you are under this whole illusion that you had more convenience, that what you did was easier and faster. Meanwhile, I get in the car and drive, and I'm there five hours, Bang. Door to door, sleeping in the bed. Four and a half hours. You might have been in the air for 50 minutes. But how long before. How long through security? Exactly? How long did you taxi on the Runway before they let you off the plane? How long do you have to wait for the bag? How long do you have to wait for a cab? How long was the cab ride to the hotel?
Peter Rosenberg
And now I. And also this Thursday, for example, when I fly to Minneapolis for SummerSlam, you know, you're praying you take off, because who knows what this weather's gonna be like for a few days. And once things get backlogged, it's just a mess. By the way, I saw my friend Chanel posted on Twitter that JetBlue DM'd her the exact same offer. Come on, guys. I'm not trying to be the big media personality bullying a company, but you gotta do right by people, man. At least travel. Having to deal with travel when you've just gone through a tragedy, it is the wor. Travel in the best of circumstances is a headache in the best of circumstances, Don. Let alone when you're dealing with the worst things that happen in life. If you can't show compassion, then what are we doing?
Peanut
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
What are we doing?
Don Hahn
At least let you on the plane first.
Smalls
Really
Peter Rosenberg
crazy.
Don Hahn
That was a good one.
Peter Rosenberg
We had to do a secondary one. Shut up. Shut your mouth. We. I'm seeing the drops load up already. For. Some drops are loading up.
Don Hahn
You turn coat for.
Peter Rosenberg
For. For enn. It's going to be some good stuff today.
Anthony
Oh, cock the march. Drop. Whatever it is. Drop madness that we call it. That's what we're going to do.
Peter Rosenberg
No, we know Drop madness is dead as a door. No, it's back.
Anthony
I heard.
Don Hahn
Peter, look at me. It's back.
Peter Rosenberg
It's back.
Peanut
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
You mean it?
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Anthony
I already did the work up until like two weeks ago, so I might as well.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, all right, well, we. But now we still have to come up with a new plan because we can't. No, we can't rely on Twitter. Oh, well, no, no, we're gonna have to find help.
Don Hahn
But here, here's the. Sure, we'll come up with a plan, but we had to make sure that these drops are preserved. So the work is still being done. But then we'll figure. We'll figure out another way. I'm not crowning a champion who got 16 votes, right?
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no.
Anthony
It'll be 10.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, listen, guys, don't worry. Don't worry. I'm telling you right now, I'm dead ass. My boy. My guy, my ace, my homie. My friend, young man named Olu, who does all of my validate me posting and which you may if you. If you follow me. You probably see a lot of it because he posts basically every day. We are going.
Don Hahn
He.
Peter Rosenberg
He is a whiz. I will have him when we get to like. I'll bring it up to him soon and he will come up with a site for us or a way to do it. We are not playing these reindeer games. Don. Are you willing. If we need to. If we need to cough up a few bucks.
Geno Smith
Whoa, whoa.
Peter Rosenberg
I know, Calm down. Just a few bucks to have him build a site for it. I'm talking, you know, just a quick 20 grand, something like that. I'm just kidding. But no. If we had to give him a couple hundred bucks to say, hey, can you just give us something? Just something that. Where we can house these audio clips and take votes. That's all we need. This isn't rocket science. I think that's money well spent because we can't do the Twitter. And Anthony. Anthony's already stretched to the limit. He's gonna break. His arms are gonna snap off, stretch him any further.
Anthony
Also lack of interest. But yeah, the other part, too. Thank you, Peter.
Don Hahn
We can't. We can't base it on your interest. Yeah, that's not interest.
Peter Rosenberg
Has nothing to do with this, right?
Anthony
No, we would do nothing on the show.
Peter Rosenberg
That's right.
Don Hahn
But so a couple of hundred three ways.
Anthony
Let's. By the way, let's be very clear, because I can't.
Don Hahn
Jacob, Peter, or Anthony to.
Anthony
I never killed this. You guys did. And I just said, okay, we're good. I don't want. I don't have to do this anymore. Sounds good to me. And then you said, why did we kill it and forgot that it was you guys.
Don Hahn
Well, because we were in the moment. You never make. You never make decisions in the moment.
Smalls
Yeah.
Don Hahn
And we were frustrated, and of course we were done. But now we hear all these glorious drops and we want to celebrate.
Anthony
We'll be back here again.
Don Hahn
And now Peter is offering us, for a small fee.
Peter Rosenberg
Small fee.
Don Hahn
A chance to be able to do this right.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm gonna send him a voice note during our next commercial. I'm gonna explain. You know what? I'm gonna do it right now. Commercial, Commercial. I'll say it right now. Hold on.
Don Hahn
All right, here we go.
Peter Rosenberg
All right. Hey, Olu. What's up, buddy? I'm on the radio here with Don. You can't hear him, but he says hello. We wanted to know we do a thing every year called Drop Madness where we have our. You may have already seen this on my pages before, but we have audio clips compete against each other and people vote. We've been using Twitter as the way for people to vote, and it's terrible. And people don't interact with it. Do you think you could easily make an app or website or some sort of way where you could upload these short clips and people could vote and we could tally the vote? You son of a gun. Someone called in the middle of it.
Don Hahn
First of all.
Anthony
Did they know you're doing a radio program?
Smalls
Yeah.
Don Hahn
How about the radio program?
Peter Rosenberg
You know what?
Don Hahn
They didn't know you were doing that.
Peter Rosenberg
It's DJ Cassidy.
Breece Hall
Drop.
Don Hahn
I don't know.
Peter Rosenberg
Great guy. I don't know who that is. You shouldn't. But, you know, Jacob probably does or he maybe does, and he's staring blankly.
Don Hahn
Time zone. Does he not know?
Peter Rosenberg
He started off Cass. I thought he was going Cass. When I was like, oh, I know. No, no. DJ Cassidy, you know, the guy who does pass the mic.
Don Hahn
Hanging with your reindeer games and your little hip hop parties and your little hashtag, yo, yo.
Anthony
That's that guy, right?
Don Hahn
Pine shown half is like covens.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I'm sending him the voice dart anyway, and then I'll see what I. What I just.
Don Hahn
Fine, I guess.
Advertiser/Announcer
All right, let's just.
Don Hahn
How high are you willing to go, money wise?
Peter Rosenberg
What?
Don Hahn
250.
Peter Rosenberg
What, between the three of us?
Don Hahn
Yeah, I think.
Peter Rosenberg
I think depending how much work it is for him, if the three of us have to come up with 500 bucks between the three of us, it's like 150 plus a person.
Don Hahn
Listen, I could afford it, right?
Peter Rosenberg
The question is, do you care? So hold on. So the question is, Anthony, this is important for you to hear, okay? Don wants to bring back Drop Madness enough to drop drive you crazy. So you have to do extra hours for free. Like you have to work after hours. Oh, listen, do all the work.
Anthony
I'm well aware, Peter, of what this is going to mean for me.
Peter Rosenberg
So it's just. So I just want to. But I want to point this out. So Don cares enough to ruin your life?
Anthony
Yeah, absolutely.
Peter Rosenberg
But when I'm like, want to throw in 150 bucks so we can do it properly. No, I don't care that much, by the way. Just enough to ruin Anthony's life.
Anthony
Listen, if your guy could tell me, hey, this is how you do it. I'll build it.
Peter Rosenberg
That's too much.
Anthony
No, I'll do it. I'm not gonna skirt the work.
Peter Rosenberg
No, but he does code and stuff. He knows, like, how to do this stuff.
Don Hahn
You presented it in such a way that, yeah, I think I could pay 150.
Anthony
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Then we come up with five hundo and you say, hey, can you handle the site for us? I think that's money well spent. If we want it to, like, be good. And we could say, hey, it's drop madness.com or whatever it is. You play the drops, you vote for the drops. If we. Assuming we could do it like that, I think it's worthwhile. I do like it. And if it all fails.
Don Hahn
Just think about it like that, Don.
Peter Rosenberg
We have somebody to blame. It won't be Anthony.
Don Hahn
It won't be any of our faults. It won't be like the.
Peter Rosenberg
But we just blame Olu.
Don Hahn
We just blame Olu.
Peter Rosenberg
Even if the site's great and functions fantastic, we still blame Olu.
Don Hahn
So it sounds fault. It sounds to me, though, because, listen, I know I'm not good at math, but I'm halfway decent at it.
Peter Rosenberg
Sure.
Don Hahn
You're not a big math guy. If you're telling me 150 bucks, then I guess the extra money is going to be out of your pocket.
Peter Rosenberg
You mean 150?
Anthony
150.
Peter Rosenberg
200? Is that what you're saying?
Don Hahn
So the extra 50 will be you because you threw 150 at me?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, it's like, it's. What is it? It's 160 something. 167.50 or something. You said you're the math guy.
Anthony
There's one person to blame. If this goes sideways, it's myself for allowing this to happen. That's the only person that will be blamed.
Don Hahn
Ultimately, we talk about our listeners as family. They want it, so we should give it to them.
Geno Smith
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
I think the people who love our show, you know, truly love our show. I think that they. That was a deep statement that I just made. I think the people who love our show love Drop Madness and don't want it to go anywhere. That's right. I just think. I really think Twitter has fallen off as a medium. I barely interact on it. I consider it just a bot farm and nonsense. Like, literally, when I sit here, the only time I'm on Twitter is when I scroll it during our show. And basically, it's just, like, different pictures of butts and cleavage. That's all it is.
Don Hahn
You didn't.
Anthony
That sounds like a you algorithm.
Peter Rosenberg
No, it is a me algorithm, Anthony. I own that. I know who I am. Just the same way Twitter knows me. God bless, but. God bless me. Bless. But at the same time, it used to show me some things of relevant and relevance, and now it's like. It's just ass.
Don Hahn
I had to drop Nancy's car off to get serviced and I took an Uber home.
Anthony
Oh, Peter, this is.
Don Hahn
And because I've got so much on my phone, Uber disappeared on me. To redownload the Uber, I had to get rid of a couple of apps.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, no, he's out of stuff.
Don Hahn
One of the apps I got rid of was Twitter.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, well, who needs it?
Anthony
What is on. Peter, what is on this phone?
Peter Rosenberg
No, what is on. It's.
Geno Smith
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's. I don't.
Anthony
He can't download the app.
Peter Rosenberg
He's got all of Hillary Clinton's emails.
Anthony
That's where they went.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, they're on Don's phone.
Don Hahn
Come on. You know this. How many pictures of Maya do you have? You must have some clearly enough to
Peter Rosenberg
keep all the apps on his phone. Yeah, but. Yeah, but you got the cloud, Don. That's why you gotta have some stuff up on the cloud.
Don Hahn
No, they all. It doesn't it all go to the cloud?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, yeah, but. Are you utilizing the cloud or are you still just saving it all on your phone?
Don Hahn
No, did I take a picture and it's done. What do I got to do with it?
Anthony
Oh, boy.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, okay.
Don Hahn
All right, you know what?
Peter Rosenberg
You know, let's take a moment.
Don Hahn
Later in a week.
Peter Rosenberg
No, let's regroup. Let's take a breather. Let's regroup.
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Don Hahn
People spoke One of the people, the quarterback of the New York Jets, Geno Smith,
Geno Smith
I want to start by saying, you know, I really feel like coming out of OTAs. I feel like we built some positive momentum and, you know, really, really happy with, you know, where this team is right now. You know, I really hate the fact that, you know, something I was a part of could have been a distraction for, you know, this team, my teammates, this organization. Because a lot of hard work has been put in and a lot of guys have put a lot of work in for us to be in a good spot as a team. You know, I'm happy that, you know, I'm able to put this behind me, looking forward to moving forward and just continuing to build day by day with my guys. You know, I really appreciate being a part of this team, a part of this organization again and I look forward to just building every single day in training camp, getting better as a team, getting better as a player and continuing the positive momentum.
Don Hahn
Peter, there is the prodigal son aspect of this. You know, he had been here earlier in his career. You know, I wouldn't say coming back a conquering hero. He did have success in Seattle, but the last couple of years, last year in Seattle, there's some conquering and that one year in Vegas, not good. But it seems like the attitude is right. You know, obviously he was addressing the off field stuff that he was worried would be a distraction. It looks like he's been able to overcome that and now we'll see. Listen, if he plays like he did the bulk of the time in Seattle, with the weapons the jets have, with an improved offensive line, they should score some points. It'll just a matter of what Geno Smith you're going to get. But it seems to me, Peter, he's got the right attitude.
Peter Rosenberg
I'm not mad at it. I mean listen, we got to. Things are going the wrong direction. Can we start getting them to head the opposite direction? I think he sounds like at least he's still focused, he's still on the right path. And obviously the first story now sounds like it was maybe really not an accurate depiction of what was going on.
Don Hahn
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
And then maybe the second thing was just sort of a random circumstance. It's not that big a deal. You add them up. It looked like a really not great start. But it sounds like his head's on.
Don Hahn
Sorry.
Peter Rosenberg
Thank you. Thank you Griffin. Sounds like his head's on. Screwed on right and the right way.
Don Hahn
Which way is it going to go Peter? Is it going to go Ryan Fitzpatrick or is it going to go Justin Fields? I'll have to wait and see.
Peter Rosenberg
I'll say this, it can't be Fields. I'd be shocked.
Don Hahn
I know but remember last year as all this team might be able to win seven, eight games, just a few. We both were high on Justin Fields. We felt like the change of scenery. He's got some talent. He was a high pick. Maybe he finds it. He never did, you know. So Geno Smith's kind of the same thing. Is he going to be the way he's in Seattle or is it going to be the way he was last year in Vegas? We'll see if he's the way he was in Vegas. This will be another four win season and they're going to. And they're going to, you know, obviously draft the quarterback but they're going to show Aaron Glenn the door if he plays like he did in the beginning of Seattle. This is a team that Maybe can win 8, 9 games be in the hunt for a playoff spot. So we'll see Geno Smith on the jets expectations.
Geno Smith
You know, I have high expectations for the team. I believe we have not only the right guys in the locker room but you know, the coaching staff in the front office and you know there's a lot of things to be positive about. You know, as a Jet fan and as a player and as a part of the organization, I expect us to go out there every single day be who we are. Which is a team full of, you know, hard working men, guys who love the game and a lot of talent, a lot of talent on street the team as well. So I look forward to building with these guys. I look forward to being a part of this team and seeing where we could take it.
Don Hahn
There's an opportunity to Go back where it failed to go back to prove people wrong. He's only 35. It's not like he's, you know, an old man here. I think there's. There could be something left to be the bridge quarterback. All right, get you through this season, then. Whoever the quarterback is next year, whether they, you know, trade up or it ends up being a not so great season and you're able to draft the quarterback without having to make a trade. Either way, there's a new quarterback next year that he can maybe mentor and then maybe play a second season. We're already seeing, I guess it was announced in Vegas that Kirk Cousins is going to be the starting quarterback, and it's not going to be Mendoza. So, like, maybe just airing on the side of a. Let's not throw kids to the wolves here. And maybe Geno can be that. That's the best case scenario. That's the hope that Geno Smith can have a chance to maybe win some games here and then be that bridge quarterback for the next guy. Let's see here. How is he viewing his opportunity with the Jets?
Geno Smith
You know, God has blessed me to be able to play this long, and I view each and every opportunity, each and every day as a blessing. It's truly a blessing and a gift from God. And so every day I get a chance to go into this locker room with my teammates, step on that field, my teammates, to be coached by, you know, great coaches. I just. I'm truly humbled by it, and so I don't look too far ahead. I know that there's a lot of work to be done, and I'm extremely focused on making sure that we do the right thing as far as the process goes, and let everything else handle itself, as I've always done.
Don Hahn
Gino, how is it working with Glenn?
Geno Smith
AG has done a great job at laying out the blueprint for this team.
Peter Rosenberg
Just laying out.
Geno Smith
He wants to take us and it's our job, job to bring that into manifestation. But I love it, man. I think the world of this organization, I think the world of Coach Glenn, I think he's a great coach, outstanding coach, and like I said, it's our job to go prove him right.
Don Hahn
You know, Breece Hall's still here. You maybe didn't think that at times when it looked like he was going to get traded or he'd want to be out of here because he didn't get a contract. Well, Breece hall is still here and a major weapon for this team. And he spoke and he spoke about Stability within the organization and it's good.
Breece Hall
Yeah. I just feel like in the past we've had a lot of craziness and turmoil and stuff, a lot of switch over turnover. And I feel like now with the guys we've brought in and the people we have, coaches we have, with the change of the staff and upstairs and through our coaching staff, you know, I just feel like it's a lot more organizational stability which helps the players, because I feel like the players are only going to be as good as the organization is. You can't have good players and not have a stable organization and still have a good team. So I feel like now AG's done a great job, Woody's done a great job. Mood has done a great job of getting the right people in place. And I feel like that's very big positive for us because it's going to seep down into us players and help us as well.
Don Hahn
Now, help me out here, Peter. I don't want to sound like Michael K. Complaining about names and stuff. Aaron Glenn, it's two syllables, okay? AG
Peter Rosenberg
is a thing. They're all running with ag.
Don Hahn
I don't like it.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, but I'm telling. It's AG is a good. It is. It's. It is a known list. I'm not ranking it as high as AJ or DJ or mj. But AG is a thing.
Don Hahn
I know it's a thing, but if your name is, you know, Armageddon Galusa fall off, then you know what? AJ is probably a lot easier to say it's Aaron Glenn.
Peter Rosenberg
But then, but then, but then think about syllables. But what do you. Ag, when you do initials for a coach, it's a nice in between because Coach Glenn is very formal.
Don Hahn
I don't like it at all.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, what don't you like about it?
Don Hahn
I mean, you know what, he's barely hanging on, man, let's not throw A rod's different. He's belting 60 home runs. All right, A.G. can. Can you. Can you. Can you win more than you lose in your season and you won five games? Now I'm throwing AG around. Listen, they could do what they want. They can address their coach how they want it. I'm just saying, like, you know,
Peter Rosenberg
I got no problem. Of all the things that I might
Don Hahn
be concerned about, observation.
Peter Rosenberg
I got no issue with ag and
Don Hahn
I don't like it.
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, where do you rank this among things you don't like with the Jetson top 30?
Don Hahn
I. It's just an. Like. I just. It's just a Pet peeve of mine. Like, listen, I love Brandon Tierney. Never called him bt. I can handle Brandon Tierney, I think. Listen, I know I'm dumb, but you know what? I can spit out that name. I don't need to shorten Brandon Tierney. What am I doing? Are words taking years off my life?
Peter Rosenberg
I hear you, but that's different. You're not talking about Brandon Tierney every day. He's going to be asked about Aaron Glenn every day.
Don Hahn
Coach. How about Coach?
Peter Rosenberg
Well, you like that better. Coach is so generic. When people call have someone coach, it could refer to anyone.
Don Hahn
I know who you're talking about. I know you're talking about with a J. I don't know. I just think, you know, let's.
Peanut
Let's.
Don Hahn
Let's. Let's do something first before we have a nickname.
Peter Rosenberg
Yes, this is. I'm gonna give you the opportunity here.
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Peter Rosenberg
I'm gonna give Don the opportunity. This is rare to just punt on this day, to just take a step back.
Don Hahn
I'm a big boy. I can handle myself. I don't need everybody to agree with me. You know, you ganging up on me is only gonna make me want to just double down.
Peter Rosenberg
I know, I know. Now you're gonna double and triple saying,
Don Hahn
I just felt like it's one. One thing, you know, if. If he's been around a while, if he's established himself as a coach and you start. I don't know, man.
Peter Rosenberg
I hear what you say.
Don Hahn
There's a very good chance that by November he's fired.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, he'll be. Then he'll become past tense. Ag.
Peanut
I just.
Don Hahn
It's not that bad.
Anthony
But then the next coach will get a nickname.
Don Hahn
That'll be stupid, too.
Anthony
Old Brick was Brick.
Peter Rosenberg
That's right. Remember Brick?
Peanut
Yeah.
Don Hahn
How did that work out?
Peter Rosenberg
Bricked.
Anthony
Right.
Peter Rosenberg
It breaked. That's right.
Don Hahn
It might as well have been Brick Tamlin at that point.
Peanut
Right?
Peter Rosenberg
We love Brick Tamlin.
Don Hahn
I'm just like, no, this is. This is the.
Anthony
This is.
Peter Rosenberg
That's a perfect example.
Don Hahn
Brick with his perfect beard. All of a sudden they're calling him Brick Gone. Honestly, every Jet player, they should be calling him Mr. Glenn because at least Aaron did something when he was a Jet. What are these guys done
Peanut
Ag. Too.
Don Hahn
It's too informal, man. Just too familiar.
Peter Rosenberg
Thoughts on Doc Rivers? That's a guy who probably wasn't proven, but they've been calling him. Yeah, but he was Doc. Throughout his entire NBA career, he was Doc. Well, hold on. But maybe Aaron Glenn, among players was always Ag. This is what I'm saying.
Advertiser/Announcer
He was.
Anthony
He probably was ag before he was what? Coach Glenn, like, Dable was Dave's. It's just. This is.
Don Hahn
I don't like it. And how did that work out?
Peter Rosenberg
I'll give me one that worked out.
Don Hahn
Did anybody ever call Bill Parcells bp? Oh, love. Love playing for bp. They called them Tuna after he won a Super Bowl.
Anthony
I'm certainly not telling you to like it. I'm just saying that you.
Don Hahn
I don't have to like you have anything.
Anthony
You have had this take before. You don't like the nickname. It's not a thing.
Don Hahn
I'm not a Nick.
Anthony
No, you're not.
Peter Rosenberg
But now you've stolen this bit from Michael.
Don Hahn
No, no, no. I don't steal anything from Mike. No Michael K. Because I'm not. I'm not crazy. Like, we criticize the names and everything he would have made. Even though it would have been inappropriate because her mom died. He would have been making fun of the girl's name that you mentioned. But the bachelorette party, that's not a common name.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, right. No, he can't. He can't hear any name.
Don Hahn
He can't handle that stuff.
Peter Rosenberg
He can't enter any name that's not Bill or Bob. He goes crazy. But imagine if there was like, let alone Skylar Astin.
Don Hahn
Well, how would you feel? It's not exactly the same. I get it. But just follow me here. Bill Parcells, his first year, goes 3:12 and one. All right? Then if you're in Harry CARSON Going into 1984 and they're like, oh, you know, I like. I like Coach Tuna. You're like, calling him Tuna. Yeah, he's. Yeah, because he's a dead fish. They went 312 and 1. He's probably gonna get fired.
Anthony
The counterpoint, of course, is since there's so many nicknames out there, if Aaron Glenn didn't have a nickname, you'd think they'd be more concerned because they don't. They don't. They're not as familiar or comfortable with him as they should be.
Don Hahn
He's an established player. They know him. Aaron Glenn is a real cool, strong name. Right?
Anthony
That's a.
Don Hahn
That's a good name. It's a name to be proud of and assuring it to ag. Like, what, are you trying to save air for the. For the hundred yard dash? How about Coach Glenn? Let's do that. How about some winning, some games? How about Coach Glenn?
Peter Rosenberg
How about the old ball coach?
Don Hahn
Coach Reich,
Peter Rosenberg
now Frankie and Ag.
Don Hahn
God, everybody, it's everybody just too familiar?
Peter Rosenberg
Peter, I see what you're saying.
Don Hahn
I don't think you do.
Peter Rosenberg
I think, I mean, I don't shut
Don Hahn
up and say, hey, I call him
Anthony
Mr. Don Brie Soul.
Don Hahn
Hey, BH on Glenn's second year, I
Peter Rosenberg
wonder what they do call Breeze Hall.
Breece Hall
Honestly, I think everybody that comes to New York, even though he's played here before, it's like you bite off a little more than what you could chew at first. You don't. You know what I mean? Like, you don't realize it. And I think, like, him being the first year, he dealt with the highs of the highs and the lows of the lows. And I just think, like, you know, he knows what to expect, he knows what he wants. He knows what he wants to see out of the organization, out of the players, out of the coaches. So I just think it's very to the point and, you know, very direct. So I think it's very good for us to see that, like, okay, this is a standard. This is what we got to do. This is how we want to police the locker room, the weight room, practices, everything like that. So it's definitely been a little bit better for us, so.
Don Hahn
1-800-9193776 I don't need anybody to agree with me. I'm just giving you my thoughts. I'm not trying to win over hearts and minds. I'm not trying to win anything. I'm just getting my opinion out, that's all. Clearly, the staff does not agree with me. It's just how I feel, that's all.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, listen, you've made your point loud and clear. I hear you. They're going to take it under advisement and we'll just.
Don Hahn
They're not going to pay attention to me. They should, but I'm just.
Anthony
That's just.
Peter Rosenberg
You're not into nicknames.
Anthony
That's dlg.
Peter Rosenberg
That's DLG to you and me.
Don Hahn
No, but. No, nobody's ever called. The only thing anybody's ever called me was Wally used to call me Donnie Pucks. And I didn't love it.
Peter Rosenberg
I like. Well, it's. It's stuck though some degree.
Don Hahn
But, you know, if you're being interviewed by Neil Best, talking about what's it like to be on Don Hahn and Rosenberg, I'd smack you if you said, I love working with Donny Park. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't disrespect me in that way.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I never would. Not if you didn't like it.
Don Hahn
I Don't think I'd. I'd hate you. I'd just be like, what are you doing?
Peter Rosenberg
No, I've called you Donnie Pucks. You didn't threaten to hit me.
Don Hahn
But not in a formal, not in an interview. When they do the 30 for 30 for don on Rosenberg, you're not going to be referring to me as Donnie Pucks or dlg.
Peter Rosenberg
No, I won't.
Don Hahn
Or Sweet Donnie Legee, which I was called by.
Peter Rosenberg
What about Don Juan Greco?
Don Hahn
That's what Stephen A. Smith calls.
Peter Rosenberg
That's right. And I guarantee you, if there was a documentary, he would call you Don
Don Hahn
Juan Lagrecker and it would bother me.
Peter Rosenberg
Really? You don't even find. You don't find it. You don't find it nice to have a nickname? One of the most powerful voices in all of media.
Don Hahn
I don't think he. He knows who I am when he does.
Peter Rosenberg
Where's Don Juan La Greco when I'm looking for him?
Don Hahn
What do you.
Peter Rosenberg
What do you mean? You don't think he knows who you are?
Don Hahn
When he says, well, there's evidence right there. That's to drop the mic. He said my full name. So, yeah, he knows who I am.
Anthony
Correct.
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Don Hahn
1-800-919-3776. Let's go to Peanut. He's in Palm Bay. You're on ESPN New York.
Peanut
Hey, what's up, Don? What's up, Peter? I originally had a topic about the airports, but here in Don talk about Aaron Glenn. That gives me another one to talk about which you guys want to go do both.
Don Hahn
Have fun.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, go ahead, man.
Don Hahn
It's.
Peanut
It's.
Peter Rosenberg
It's July, for God's sake.
Peanut
Okay. All right. We'll start with the airport. Alright, so if it came down to it, you guys are flying like media credential. Like flying whatever the way you fly. Are you giving up your seat to keep a family together?
Don Hahn
Yeah.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, I want to start at the beginning. First of all, there's no media credential on flying, okay? It's just whatever ticket you have.
Peanut
I don't. I don't know any better. I'm just asking.
Peter Rosenberg
Well, just so you know. Sorry, I'm not trying to be a know at all. You're absolutely right. We fly completely regular. Now if sometimes like our job could book the airfare for us and depending on your contract, you could have either business class or coach. Sadly, mine are all coach and I'm upgrading, but you get the idea. Now the question you're asking is.
Peanut
I'm with you, Peter. I go coach.
Peter Rosenberg
No, no, no, no, no. I said they book coach. I now upgrade to first class to business class. But I didn't do that until I was 40 years old. I want to be clear. The pandemic changed me and I can't go back. But the question. The qu. Yeah, you got time. The question remains, would I move? So assuming you don't mean move cabin, like, no, I'm not moving from business class to coach to keep a family together. That's unreasonable. However, any other circumstance in which I would have. Are you talking about, though, potentially going from, like an aisle or window to middle? Or are you saying you're just getting up and switching rows?
Peanut
I'm talking about missing the flight period.
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, it would have to be a situation in which you're traveling with no urgency whatsoever. Like, I don't know how often.
Peanut
I agree.
Peter Rosenberg
Like, did this happen to you? Do you experience this?
Don Hahn
Like, are you talking like, the family and home alone?
Peanut
I passed it up. I. No, I passed it up because I go on snowboarding trips and I go with my family and there's been times where it's been offered and I just. I whistle like, it ain't part of me, you know, but if I really had to, I would, you know?
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. I've never had that situation come up, Dom, where, like, it's a home alone situation and the person's like, I need to get back on this flight because my child is home alone.
Don Hahn
No.
Peter Rosenberg
Do you want my jewelry?
Peanut
Yeah. I couldn't imagine, like. Like, I'm only going on a snowboard trip. If it's a family vacation, like, I'll gladly, like, take a day and change to keep them together. Like, whatever. I'll still go to go snowboarding. It's fine, you know, I'll make it no matter what.
Don Hahn
Respect. I will let you make the comment about the Aaron Glenn, but for me, if there's a flight a little bit, like, let's say it's a 7 o' clock flight and there's a flight at 10 and it's going to keep the family together. And I got. I don't. And no urgency to get there and there's another flight. I'm not, like, coming back the next day. I'm not, you know, switching airlines or, you know, going. I'm not gonna go that crazy. But if it's something, all right, I'll go have dinner or something else that's different. But if I'm gonna. If I gotta wait the next day, go home, come. No, I'm not doing that.
Peanut
I'm also coming at it from, like a broke full route where, like, I really gotta eat it. Like, Where I really can't afford it and. But like, if I really had to, I'll do it to keep a family together, you know, You're a good.
Peter Rosenberg
You're a mensch.
Peanut
You're.
Geno Smith
No question.
Don Hahn
What is your Glen point?
Peanut
All right. The Glenn point. So, Don, you don't like the Aaron Glenn AG nickname, correct?
Don Hahn
Yes.
Peanut
What if he's using that as a way to like, play down to them? To like, be like, I'm a players coach, I haven't won yet. But hey, guess what? Ag means I am the coach. And you will always refer to me as Ag the coach.
Don Hahn
Hey, listen.
Peanut
And we will get there together. That.
Don Hahn
That is a good poem. And that's a little hokey. I. If that's the way he wants to be addressed, like in the in, when he introduces himself, he's like, call me ag. That's a different story. I'm. What are you going to do? He wants to be called aj. I'd be more disrespectful to call him something else. Right, Peter? But just on the surface of what I know, like calling him, it just seems silly. But maybe he likes that. Whatever. Like John Tortorella. He liked being called torts. He didn't like being called John. It's like, so what am I supposed to do? I got to say torts, right? But that'd be familiar if I just called him torts without being told to call them torts. Call him coach Tortorella.
Peter Rosenberg
Now, you know, Michael would. Michael refuses to call people by nickname. He's disgusted by.
Don Hahn
But you know, I think he exaggerated with the whole Lawrence thing with Yogi Berra. But if a guy says, I want to be called ass, you call him what he wants to call.
Peter Rosenberg
Why would someone want to be called ass?
Don Hahn
I don't know why somebody wants to be called A.G. when his name's Aaron Glenn.
Peter Rosenberg
Now you call Kevin Nagandi ass, but that's your choice because he was.
Don Hahn
He was dressing like an angel. He's got a contract.
Peter Rosenberg
He got the job. Is that what you mean?
Peanut
Yes. And.
Peter Rosenberg
Or if someone. If someone died is the other time that you think that it's necessary to call people ass. That's different though, than ag.
Don Hahn
But there's a difference between yes and that.
Peter Rosenberg
Now I should say though, my only issue with AG is to me, there's always only one AG and is the rapper Andre the Giant AG from Ditc from the Bronx. So I always will think, well, there you go. AG of show business.
Don Hahn
I left that part out of my art.
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, you know what? I think that was polite that you let me get it. You know what I mean?
Don Hahn
I may have mispronounced some of those names in there.
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It's good.
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Fit for all times.
Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Producer/Contributors: Anthony, Peanut, Smalls, Geno Smith, Breece Hall
Hour 3 of the Don, Hahn & Rosenberg show covers a lively conversation on airline frustrations, the ongoing "Drop Madness" competition and its logistics, and a spirited debate about sports nicknames, particularly surrounding new Jets coach Aaron Glenn ("AG"). The hour blends signature New York sports banter with musings on sports culture, broadcast in an irreverent, conversational tone.
[00:44 – 11:48]
The hour opens with Peter Rosenberg sharing a personal story of a friend’s bachelorette trip disrupted by a family tragedy and the insensitivity of airlines (specifically JetBlue) when seeking flight credits and refunds.
[13:00 – 20:45]
Debate over reviving "Drop Madness," a beloved show segment where listeners vote for the best radio drops/clips.
[23:28 – 29:59]
[29:22 – 29:59]
[29:59 – 38:45]
This becomes the central theme of the hour. Don is irked by the instant adoption of "AG" as a nickname for new Jets coach Aaron Glenn.
[41:11 – 46:45]
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If you haven’t listened, this episode is a great example of the show’s blend of current sports insight, locker room culture, and the everyday realities of New York life. The wide-ranging nickname debate captures both the humor and the honest takes that define Don, Hahn & Rosenberg.