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Don Hahn
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Alan Rosenberg
This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
That sounds like heaven to me.
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Alan Rosenberg
Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.
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Unknown Speaker
As promised. I have news, ladies and gentlemen. Took some work, took some talk, took some thought, took some cojones there, I said, took some people stepping up. But we listened to the people. We've heard what you said. And from this day forth, like it always should have been, the evening nightly news known as ENN will take place at 6:00. This is not nothing all feels right in the world again. We did it yesterday and it felt so good, so good, so natural. And everyone's been saying that since we, since we started the Don Hahn and Rosenberg vehicle. It was like, hey, if you're gonna do enn, can we get back to 6:00 like it should be? Well, it's been heard. The answer is yes. See you at 6:00, baby.
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Peter Rosenberg
Hot six.
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Unknown Speaker
That's exactly right.
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Peter Rosenberg
A full six. It's I want to cry. That's how happy I am about it.
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Unknown Speaker
By the way, when I texted, when I texted Don a couple days ago and Alan about like, hey, I think we need to like really go hard at this. Don's direct quote was I said, do you guys agree? And Don said, and I quote, I'm willing to take lives for this.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yes, that was an exact quote. It was from that.
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Peter Rosenberg
Not exaggerated.
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Alan Rosenberg
Well, no lives were lost.
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Unknown Speaker
No lives were lost.
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Alan Rosenberg
That's a good sign.
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Unknown Speaker
Killed nobody.
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Alan Rosenberg
Nobody had to be killed. Which is a good sign.
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Peter Rosenberg
It just makes sense. It always worked at 6. 4:30 seemed awkward. Not long enough. Just too early in the show. 6:00 is just the perfect time to kind of wrap up the day.
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Alan Rosenberg
Evening nightly news.
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Peter Rosenberg
So it is back, baby.
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Alan Rosenberg
You're welcome.
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Peter Rosenberg
And don't worry, 4:30 is going to be more than taken care of. You're really going to love the creativity that we've all put together. Oh yeah, 4:30 is going to be special in itself.
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Unknown Speaker
Right?
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Peter Rosenberg
But I'm just going to tell you as special as it's going to be, it pales in comparison to an ENN at 6.
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Alan Rosenberg
It's an institution. Let's be your reactions. 800 now 193777, because we can do.
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Peter Rosenberg
Two hours on this.
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Alan Rosenberg
Want to hear the people because everybody complained about it. So you got what you wanted. Now let's hear from you. But let's also discuss what we saw from the Mets. Oh, that's not well done. Again, all kidding aside, four, three loss in the, in the 10th, they do rally. They were down three nothing. They rally in the eighth, they get some clutch hitting and no surprise, Pete Alonso in the midst of all of it. And so now they're tied. The one curiosity I had was them going into the ninth and using Edwin Diaz.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's interesting, right?
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Alan Rosenberg
It was tied on the road.
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Peter Rosenberg
On the road. Because you want to save him for a possible closing situation. They did have the heart of the order coming up in the top of the 10th, which would then make me believe, you know what? Then I'm going to want to have the beginning, have Diaz close it out. But I guess maybe the logic was. And I didn't hear from Mendoza because we were on the air during the post game show. Was it the fact that he just, he wanted to make sure that there was a top of the 10th because he had Soto and Alonzo coming up in the top of the 10th. No, Soto was going to lead. Soto was going to be at second.
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Alan Rosenberg
He was the second. Yeah, he was the ghost.
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Peter Rosenberg
I've got my MVP leading off of the runner on.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, Alonzo walked.
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Peter Rosenberg
Right. They pitched around him.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
Because the one good thing about like watching on that, it was he walked on a 3.1 pitch. The pitch he swung at was, was, was out of the strike zone one. And oh, they were not pitching to him because, you know, they wanted to make sure they can get the force. And then they got a double play.
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Alan Rosenberg
And winker, winker grounded into the double play. But still you had Soto at third with Nimmo up and two outs. He still had an opportunity. He pops out and he popped out foul palp.
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Peter Rosenberg
And Soto went over five with three.
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Alan Rosenberg
Strikeouts, which, yeah, that's not a good day.
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Peter Rosenberg
Unlike him.
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Alan Rosenberg
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
So it's one of those things like wouldn't you have rather lost 3, nothing then come back with the 3 runs in the 8th inning only to lose it in the 10th?
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Alan Rosenberg
I do like Reed Garrett came in, just everybody. Those who are just joining us, Reed Garrett comes in the game. He threw three pitches. The third pitch was a sharp line drive by Ty France and they scored the ghost runner from second ball game.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. So you can't even afford to make any kind of a mistake. You've got that. Really the mistake is, is that they had first and second, nobody out in the top half of the 10th inning. He didn't score. That was your chance to put up a three spot and then. And then give your relief pitching a chance to be able to have a margin for error. Didn't happen. But they left a ton of guys on Soto. Like I said. Oh, for five with three strikeouts. Alonzo hit again. But here's the disturbing part. Lindor did get a hit. He got that rally going in the eighth inning, so give him credit for that. But he's batting.239. Soto 3.231. And again, not great today, but, you know, Alonzo's got two hits. Winkers got two hits, but, you know, got Nimmo batting.203. Taylor, who's going to play quite a bit now with Siri out, we didn't get a chance to talk about that.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, I'm losing the middle of his.
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Peter Rosenberg
Leg fracture, so he's going to be out for quite some time. So Taylor's going to get a look at Center Field. He's batting.163. Beatty's batting.175. That's with two hits today, and he's batting.175. They're just not getting a lot of production outside of the top three. And even the top three, it's really been Alonzo. Right. Lindor is kind of in his April swoon like he usually is. Soto is a shell of himself right now. They've got. They were 11 and 5, and I was happy about it yesterday, but if you're not going to hit, it's going to come back to haunt you a little bit. So I would think they're going to hit. The big concern coming into the season was that they should hit. Will they pitch well? So far they've pitched well, not hitting. So a couple of losses. You know, it's the first series they've lost since the opening series against Houston, so I'm not going to freak out. 11 and 7 is still good, but you lost to a lousy Minnesota team. And I was listening to Michael today. Their major concerns in Minnesota, they're not. They're drawing flies. They had 19,000 today, but they had like 11, 12,000. I know it's cold, but it was 53 degrees. First pitch last night. There's 11,000 people in the building. I mean, I didn't look at the attendance, but I'm sure the wild had like 19,000. Right.
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Unknown Speaker
So not great.
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Peter Rosenberg
There's a lot of problems there.
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Alan Rosenberg
Let's see if I can get the attendance today because there's 19,000. Afternoon game you saw. Yeah, 19, 7, 2, 1.
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Peter Rosenberg
So that's not bad. But still we were celebrating. He's still having under 20,000 people. No, but it's been cold and all that. But 53 at first pitch, you kind of get that in New York too, right? I mean, it's April, it's the middle of April. What do you expect the temperature to be? But that's their problem. But so something to keep an eye on. They got, they got to get, got to get Lindor going. And then last night, you know, you got a 2 nothing lead. Lindor boots a ball allows a run to score, opens up a two run inning, tie the game. And the Mets never really recovered from there. And then two nothing. Two two became six two and or five two. And they tried to climb back into the game, made a five, three. But you're still chasing your tail if your offense isn't going to. You just can't rely on Alonzo every single night. Soto's got a hit, Lindor's got a hit, Nimmos got a hit. And I think they will. But right now it's starting to cost you games, man.
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Alan Rosenberg
When does it though? Like, when you think about it, when does it. Does the lack of production in the bottom of the order, even middle of the order, if you think about this team, when do you reach that point where it starts to become alarming? Because there are guys that you were hoping, you know, the Vientos thing is probably the biggest concern of all. You're really hoping that he would have picked up where he left off. That's not happening yet. You know, Winker hasn't really done anything yet. Right. Like there's certain guys that you thought were going to pick up where they left off. We're going to be part of this, this lineup. And instead it's really been a lot of pressure on the first, basically three batters you got in your lineup on, on Lindor, on Soto and on Alonzo. And Alonzo has done a ton. Yeah, Soto's done nothing.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's 18 games. So in 162 games, season 18 is not enough of a sample size. So you ask when is it a problem? We start getting into May and weather gets a little warmer and these guys still aren't I don't know what you do about it. Not saying you got to blow anything up, but you know, Beatty and Vientos, they don't have like major resumes. Vientos kind of came together in the postseason. Yeah, but it's not like the back of his baseball card says, oh, don't worry, he's going to hit. He's still a kid. Beatty, I don't know if you're going to say that. Soto, I'm not worried about. Soto's too good. The resume is just too sterling for me to sit there and go, oh, I think Soto's going to have a bad year. Lindor always gets off to a slow start. So, you know, Lindor is going to hit. You know Soto's going to hit. Alonzo's hitting already. Nimmo, I have, I have confidence in. But Vientos, Beatty, you know, now Taylor's gonna have to play a lot with Siri being hurt. Acuna is still a kid. I mean, what's Acuna going to be? He's batting.263. Not bad. But, you know, again, this, he's still building a resume. So you asked me when I get concerned, usually everybody says, let's peek in on Memorial Day, find out where you are. I probably peek in. Let's give it another couple of weeks. May 1, you get through the first month of the season. Starts to warm up a little bit. Got a nice four game series at home against the Cardinals. If. Give it a. Give it another couple of weeks. If we come back two weeks from today and we're in May and these guys still aren't hitting, Soto's still not hitting.
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Alan Rosenberg
Then the alarm goes off a little more.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. Then I start to really say, hey, this is too much of a sample size here to not be concerned about it.
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Alan Rosenberg
Here's Carlos Mendoza after today's loss, which again, they lose the series.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, I think it was a combination of both. You know, we didn't play good baseball for the first half, but then coming back in the eighth, putting a rally together against one of the better arms, you know, from then, it was really good to get back in the game, but overall, you know, we couldn't close the deal today. You know, we didn't get the job done. Yeah, I think we just got to play better.
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Alan Rosenberg
And Lindor, Here's Lindor. This is from, as you mentioned, he had the. He booted that ball. Here's him, you know, just having that accountability that you want about, you know, him misplaying that ball kind of Got.
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Peter Rosenberg
My eyes got a little blurry. I don't know if it's the weather, but it's unacceptable. What's happening right now is unacceptable. I got to be better. And it's not to the standard of the Mets half and definitely not to the standard I have of myself. And it's been two games already that cost the team, so got to get better for sure. All right.
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Alan Rosenberg
That's important for him to say.
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Peter Rosenberg
If you're going to be a leader, you got to be held yourself accountable. And he sounds down on it, so you got to. You got to love his reaction to it. Right? Own it. And he's always been that kind of player. That's why I think he's kind of like the true leader of this team, that he's a veteran, he's an all star and he's. He's got tons of accountability. You can hear it in his voice. He. Yes, listen, they may have lost the game anyway. It was two nothing. It was early and again was, I think the bottom of the fourth inning when he committed the error. But they get out of the inning two nothing, go to the fifth. You know, I think, I think they find a way to win that game instead. All of a sudden, 2, 2 becomes 3, 2 becomes 4, 2 becomes 5, 2. And with the team struggling offensively, it becomes a big hill to climb. But he had 12 errors last year, Alan. He's got four already in the first 18 games.
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Unknown Speaker
So the one yesterday too is just. It's just so rare to see not even Francisco Lindor. It's rare to see a starting shortstop in baseball make that error. It was an absolute routine ground ball.
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Peter Rosenberg
You're out of the inning.
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Unknown Speaker
That's it. Instead it's a run scored innings, inning.
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Peter Rosenberg
Continues, they give him another one, another base hit. And it's.
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Alan Rosenberg
When you're a guy who's notoriously a slow starter, there's baseball again. It's such a marathon, right? But there's this thing that you're known as a slow starter, so, you know, you're a slow starter. I always wondered why that perpetuates. Because it's like, don't, you know, your brain, you know, like, yeah, I usually get up to bad start. So let me do something to change that instead of it just being, well, you know, he always gets off to slow starts and you just accept it.
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Peter Rosenberg
But how do we know they're not changing it and it just still continues to happen. I remember was that way with the Yankees. It was like literally the calendar would change to May and he'd be a different person. Like it's such a mental game. It was just flipping from April to May. That was all it took. So doesn't it get in your head? I always get off the slow starts. Really don't want to get off to a slow start. Start adding pressure and it starts to build. Oh, we're off to another slow start again. I'm sure adjustments are made, but just one of those things I. There's got to be a reason for it when it's every single year. But I just think it was one of those things that you allowed to get into your head and now you can't get it out. But luckily for baseball, there's a ton of games, a ton of times the calendar is going to flip. May, June, July, August. So it'll eventually. And the fact that they're still have a winning record through all this, they didn't bury themselves. I still think that's a good thing. Even with these couple of losses still 11 and 7.
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Alan Rosenberg
Getting off to a good start, you know, didn't exactly play a murderer's row of opponents, but it's. You're supposed to beat the teams you're supposed to beat and that's what you're.
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Peter Rosenberg
Doing or did as a Met fan, when you see your season end, it did like an 07 because you couldn't beat the Marlins. You know how many times the Mets have just not been able to beat the teams they were supposed to be. So I'm not going to apologize for having an easy schedule to start the year, you know, but I'm not going to sit here and tell you that it didn't help. You know, what would their record be if you were playing, you know, the Phillies to start the season and the Giants and the Dodgers and the Padres. You're probably sitting here, you know, it's 7 and 11 if you can't hit, you know, but. And again, listen, the cold. Everybody's got to deal with it, right?
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
And they did have three games in Miami, so there was no issue there. So. But I do think all offenses are a little skewed. You're going to start to see things get going. Even the Yankees, they had that big, you know, moment against Milwaukee. But you know, I still think they can hit a lot better than they have. They play well. Yeah.
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Alan Rosenberg
Last night what we saw from the Yankees is what is the opposite of what I've been complaining about, the all or nothing offense. And the two nights ago it was four solo home runs. Last night Was actually base hits and base running, getting runners on and getting them over and getting them in. Like, that's. That's how they manufactured their offense last night. That was kind of promising. And tonight you get Clark Schmidt, you know, so he. At least you get that piece of your rotation back and see if you know what he feels like and what he looks like out on the mound. But I don't think the Yankees are. Other than judge who's been phenomenal. Volpe's been good. Rice has been good. Although he was quiet last night.
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Peter Rosenberg
Goldschmidt's been good.
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Alan Rosenberg
Goldschmidt's been. He's. Yeah, he's been. Yeah, he's been.
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Peter Rosenberg
Bellinger struggled.
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Alan Rosenberg
Bellinger has been. He's on the. He's on the interstate right now.
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Peter Rosenberg
God, just.
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Alan Rosenberg
He's on i80.
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Peter Rosenberg
It's not. He says he's not going to eat wings for five years.
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Alan Rosenberg
Five years? Well, what's with the five years?
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Peter Rosenberg
I don't know.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, he was just being dramatic, but I. When you feel that nauseous, though, I get that. I get feeling.
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Alan Rosenberg
You put five years on it.
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Peter Rosenberg
I remember doing the morning show with Mike Greenberg, and he. I don't know why he did this, but apparently he had, like, tuna tartar, and he didn't realize that, like, the night before, the restaurant had a power outage, so a lot of the food had turned and they didn't realize it. So he ate, you know, raw tuna, and it wasn't good. He said that when he was going through the food poisoning, there was a moment where he wished he died.
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Alan Rosenberg
I was there.
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Peter Rosenberg
So if it's that bad, then I can see.
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Alan Rosenberg
Have you ever had food poisoning? Like, at that level?
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Peter Rosenberg
Not at that level. Thank you.
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Alan Rosenberg
I was in San Francisco.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh. On the road.
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Alan Rosenberg
I was. I would. And I. Instead of going to lunch with everyone, I had some work to do, so I stayed in the hotel room and I ordered room service. Thought that'd be safe.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's what got him with the wings. Room service.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah. Got a salad. And in the salad, I decided, you know, a little. Little shrimp would be great. Or it was actually just like a seafood medley kind of thing.
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Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
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Alan Rosenberg
Just ate it without thinking. Just ripping right through it. Doing work. Whatever. Nick's Warriors. So at the old Oakland. What did they call that?
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Unknown Speaker
Coliseum?
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Alan Rosenberg
No, no, Whatever they called Trash heap. Yeah. It was the old dump of the arena that they had and was feeling it in the middle of the game and just absolute disaster. Just barely got the game in. Back to the hotel. Spent the entire night, I passed out twice. One time, fell, cracked my head on. In the bathroom on the vanity.
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Unknown Speaker
Did you invent the flux capacitor?
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Alan Rosenberg
Out cold. Yeah, exactly. But, Don, that night, there was one time for sure, when I thought, like. Like, I feel so sick that I think, like, if I throw up one more time, I might die because it's hard to breathe. And I said, and I would not mind it. How bad I feel. Almost missed my flight to la. Like, barely made that flight. And spent the rest of the day in bed in L. A. Brutal. Like, just.
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Unknown Speaker
Is that the worst feeling of.
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Alan Rosenberg
I don't want to feel like this anymore?
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Unknown Speaker
No. When you're going through it and, like, everything feels insane and, like, when you're picturing regular life, you can't even. Like, it's so bad. You might have only been nauseous for two hours, but when you're in the throes of it, it's hard to even imagine not feeling like it because it's so bad. I had it happen to me once, and it was the day of a really important basketball game, and I. Not only did I play in the game, I hit the game, winning shot.
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Alan Rosenberg
How.
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Unknown Speaker
And won the championship.
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Alan Rosenberg
Really?
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Forever. They've called it the flu game, but really, it was food poisoning.
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Alan Rosenberg
The. The.
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Unknown Speaker
There was a moment in time.
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Alan Rosenberg
See what you did there, Utah? It was a job.
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Unknown Speaker
And a lot of times, was it.
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Alan Rosenberg
Pizza that you got in the house.
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Unknown Speaker
And people. People think I pushed off on the game winner. I didn't. I didn't.
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Peter Rosenberg
But. So I guess that's why he's so dramatic about not ending for five years. Then didn't say, you're never going to have them again. You might as well get so delicious that. You know what? I was near death. But you know what? Five years from now, I think I'll be able to get back on the horse.
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Unknown Speaker
Why don't you just go? I can't imagine myself eating them again. Because you're going to one day.
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Peter Rosenberg
Can I ask this? I've always felt this is because I'm always a negative person, that whenever an athlete said they had food poisoning, the first thing I think of, they just.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah. Night out. You good? You all right?
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Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
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Alan Rosenberg
It was such a powerful cough. He couldn't reach the cough button.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, my God. I was just gonna lose Peter. Now, did we go to break? Did we just, like, end the show if he dies?
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Alan Rosenberg
If he passed out, what do we do? In the midst of talking about, like, wishing we were dead because of how sick we Felt two weeks ago, we.
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Peter Rosenberg
Rolled right through it.
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Alan Rosenberg
If he just went right down on the ground, what is the protocol actually? How do we handle this?
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Peter Rosenberg
Do we have a protocol for death?
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Alan Rosenberg
Like, what would you do if he just.
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Peter Rosenberg
I guess we just go to network.
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Alan Rosenberg
If one of us just passed, like, right to the floor, how much detail.
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Unknown Speaker
Do you want about what just happened?
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Alan Rosenberg
Do we stop?
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Peter Rosenberg
I want a lot of.
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Alan Rosenberg
He's still going through no cough button whatsoever.
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Peter Rosenberg
When you're ready, let us know. Raise your hand or something because I need, like, he can talk. Oh, yeah, there's always that.
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Alan Rosenberg
No, I wanted to see what's gonna happen. But we bring the audience in on everything.
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Peter Rosenberg
But I always think that they went out in the town. They're saying it's Food Porch.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
But whenever I find out, I remember, like, Bobby Holy missed a playoff game in Ottawa. Peter's leaving. So I guess we're a little concerned now.
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Alan Rosenberg
No, I'm very concerned.
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Peter Rosenberg
All right, we'll give you an update coming up. Bobby Holy Playoffs, Rangers, Senate Devil, Senators. He got food poisoning at the hotel. When you hear that a player gets food poisoning at a hotel, do you begin to think that the hotel is in on it? Wow, right? Like, hey, they're fans.
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Alan Rosenberg
Like Bart used to say about the hotel that the jets stayed in in Rhode island, that the Patriots fans, everybody knew where it was and they would. They do all kinds of stuff all night long to keep you awake.
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Peter Rosenberg
Some super fan chef at a hotel.
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Alan Rosenberg
Knows, does something in the food, the.
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Peter Rosenberg
Other team, I mean, it would really. It's the height of it. I mean, not only the fireable defense, you'll never work again.
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Alan Rosenberg
Oh, God, no.
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Peter Rosenberg
Are you telling me in the hundred plus years of professional sports that's never happened?
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Alan Rosenberg
It's had to have happened. Clearly had to have happened.
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Peter Rosenberg
And there's always the plausible deniability. It's never like just one chef or, it wasn't me. These wings were fine. I don't know what happened.
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Alan Rosenberg
They know who delivered the food, and they'll start from there.
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Don Hahn
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Unknown Speaker
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Peter Rosenberg
But step into a Warby Parker store.
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Unknown Speaker
And you'll see it doesn't have to be. Not only will you find a great selection of frames, you'll also meet helpful advisors and friendly optometrists. Yep, many Warby Parker locations also offer eye exams.
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Peter Rosenberg
So the next time you need glasses.
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Unknown Speaker
Sunglasses, contact lenses, or a new prescription, you know where to look. To find a Warby Parker store near you or to book an eye exam, head over to warbyparker.com retail thanks for.
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Alan Rosenberg
Listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Unknown Speaker
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
- [23:58]
Alan Rosenberg
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm alive if anyone's worried, he's back. I recovered. It was it was a perfect confluence of some physical events that happened at one time, and it led to an uncontrollable cough and the following was unpleasant. And here I am. I'm good though, guys. I'm Good.
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Alan Rosenberg
Relieved, are you? Very.
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Peter Rosenberg
I am. I didn't know what was going on.
- [24:28]
Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, I was a little worried there.
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Unknown Speaker
You were concerned.
- [24:30]
Alan Rosenberg
Then we said it like, you good. And then you storm out, you grab your jacket, slam the door. Got a little dramatic. Felt like one of those, like those shows, you know, those. Those so called reality shows where all these people are in the same place and the drama all begins and somebody always storms out of the room and everybody has to now stare at each other going, what just happened? That's what it felt like.
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Unknown Speaker
But in this case, Andy Cohen.
- [24:54]
Alan Rosenberg
Come on, explain it all to us afterwards. You know, something like that.
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Unknown Speaker
In this case, it was just a freakish cough attack. Perhaps. Perhaps some slight vom.
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Alan Rosenberg
Oh, no, let's leave it there. Yeah, we're good. That's a little TMI there. How about instead of hearing about this.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, let's hear about that.
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Alan Rosenberg
How about we hear about the Yankees lineup brought to you by Surfer.
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Unknown Speaker
You know what, Don? You sure you don't want to go back to the Bomb?
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Alan Rosenberg
I don't. I like this. Yankees looking for the sweep against the Royals.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, boy.
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Alan Rosenberg
And the leadoff batter, Paul Goldschmidt. The first baseman, Cody Bellinger, batting second. He's in right. Aaron Judge. I know you're surprised. In the three hole, he's your DH tonight. Jazz Chisel will be the cleanup batter at second. Anthony Volpe batting fifth. He's at short. Austin Wells. It's batting sixth. He's the catcher, Trent Grisham, who has had himself a terrific start to this season. He's your center fielder. Jason Dominguez, my favorite Martian. He is the left fielder, batting eighth. And Oswald Peraza, the third baseman, who needs himself a bat desperately. He is batting ninth. Clark Schmidt. That's right, Clarky. He is on the mound.
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Unknown Speaker
Is that a thing?
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Alan Rosenberg
I don't know. Boone always does the nickname.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, but Clark, he's a bridge too far.
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Alan Rosenberg
What would you call him? What do they call Schmitty? Come on, Anthony, you know all these nicknames.
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Unknown Speaker
No, Jacob, it's Schmitty. It's Schmitty.
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Alan Rosenberg
It is not Schmitty. I'm guessing Schmitty. Schmitty. You can't do Schmitty because it sounds too much like the other thing.
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Unknown Speaker
No, it also sounds like you don't.
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Alan Rosenberg
Want that as a nickname. How is. He's pretty Schmitty.
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Unknown Speaker
Let's be honest. It's all bad.
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Peter Rosenberg
You know what?
- [26:32]
Alan Rosenberg
That performance was kind of Schmitty. It's gotta be Clarky or something. Well, anyways, I'll tell you what. Aaron Boone did talk about getting Clark Schmidt back. Maybe he gives us a little nickname here.
- [26:43]
Don Hahn
Really excited.
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Alan Rosenberg
He's a really good pitcher. You know, we've seen him grow before our eyes over the last several years and really, over the last couple years.
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Peter Rosenberg
Really establish himself as a really good starter. And he's important to our team and excited to get him back.
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Unknown Speaker
Tonight.
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Alan Rosenberg
They just went pronouns on us. Well, that was the Yankees starting lineup, brought to you by Certapro Painters. When choosing a painting professional for your home or business, the choice is simple. Choose happy. Choose Certipro Painter.
- [27:07]
Peter Rosenberg
Kind of a scary moment in the Met Twins game. At the top of the seventh inning, Taylor hit a foul ball down the first base line and hit Hunter Wintlestadt right in the temple. Oh, and now we know how hard these balls are hit with. 90 miles per hour. 60, you know, that's what, 90ft.
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Alan Rosenberg
How old is he?
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Peter Rosenberg
Probably. Probably our age.
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Alan Rosenberg
You think so?
- [27:30]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. I could double check, but I mean, hopefully he's okay, man. But like right in the side of the head, you could see the video.
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Alan Rosenberg
That's concussion.
- [27:38]
Peter Rosenberg
And they were working on him for a little while. Obviously, we're flying blind here, as we said, with no Snyder.
- [27:43]
Alan Rosenberg
Wendell Stat is born in 71. He's my age, 53. So he doesn't look it right on.
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Peter Rosenberg
The side of that. It looked like right in the temple and like a medieval. Before he hit the ground, people were rushing out like they knew that this wasn't a glancing blow. Scary, man. It's funny because they want the first and third base coaches to be wearing a skull cap at least, right?
- [28:19]
Alan Rosenberg
Yep.
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Peter Rosenberg
But his umpire, who's right alongside them, they're not obligated to wear anything. I wonder if that's all of a sudden.
- [28:24]
Alan Rosenberg
That's interesting. That's a good point. We've got netting up now. You got the fence in front of the dugout.
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Peter Rosenberg
Now, obviously the home plate umpire is well protected, but, you know, guys, down the third or first base line and a coach. A coach, actually, these coaches are all former players. Umpires necessarily aren't. I don't.
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Unknown Speaker
You don't. The location of the ball is horrifying.
- [28:45]
Peter Rosenberg
That's really where it is. Like right. Right in the tempo.
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Unknown Speaker
It's like the.
- [28:49]
Alan Rosenberg
He sees it coming too, though. You see him start to flinch before the ball makes contact. Like he. He's well aware this thing's coming for his head.
- [28:56]
Peter Rosenberg
Yeah.
- [28:56]
Unknown Speaker
He starts to try to get his hand up right as he's moving instead.
- [29:00]
Alan Rosenberg
Of hit the deck, man.
- [29:03]
Unknown Speaker
Well, the thing is these.
- [29:04]
Alan Rosenberg
These umpires get update on him.
- [29:05]
Unknown Speaker
Generally speaking. They're not spring chickens.
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Alan Rosenberg
He's 53.
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Peter Rosenberg
I got it, by the way. Yeah. Mendoza said after the game that he is okay. But I will tell you this. And it's when I was growing up, man, and even into me, he's 53. Even. Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
He's moved. He ain't moving like Alan Hahn 53.
- [29:23]
Alan Rosenberg
Yeah. I say it's a little bit of a different 53. I will say that.
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Peter Rosenberg
What I was saying is, is that growing up, you had, like, morbidly obese umpires. Like, these guys look like they good old days.
- [29:32]
Alan Rosenberg
It was almost like that's. You were supposed to be that way. Like when you saw a fit umpire. Like, that's weird.
- [29:37]
Peter Rosenberg
At least now these guys are a little bit better conditioned. But like, back in the day, my God.
- [29:41]
Alan Rosenberg
Oh, it was just disgusting salope.
- [29:43]
Unknown Speaker
That's what I like. That's. That's baseball suit.
- [29:45]
Alan Rosenberg
There was nothing like. I'm thinking like the pitching coaches or managers that were just absolutely sloppy jogging out right to the mound for the discussion. And they would always do that little. The fat fat guy jog.
- [29:58]
Peter Rosenberg
Fat guy jogging.
- [29:59]
Alan Rosenberg
That was so baseball. Like, just to see. See, that alone was just entertaining. See, baseball's not the same anymore. Can't even get. Can't even give me my large running.
- [30:10]
Unknown Speaker
Give me my large umpire. By the way, you know, I'd like to speak on those. I don't know if those of us in the Husky community, Alan, are keen on you laughing at fat guy walking. I mean, Don, hear me out.
- [30:21]
Alan Rosenberg
What was the line?
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Unknown Speaker
Little too tall, little too thin? What? I don't know if I'm approving. Allen's laughing at the Husky community. Don, you're a part of our community.
- [30:31]
Peter Rosenberg
No, he's not.
- [30:31]
Unknown Speaker
Look how fit he is. It doesn't matter, but it's tremendous. You don't spend years that repug, and all of a sudden it's gone. He's part of the community.
- [30:37]
Peter Rosenberg
But I don't know if I ever did the fat guy little jiggle walk.
- [30:42]
Unknown Speaker
No, no, that's not what I mean. I mean, do you approve of someone this tall and thin saying that they like sitting back and being amused?
- [30:49]
Peter Rosenberg
Listen, that's the perks of it, man. Right?
- [30:51]
Unknown Speaker
No, I think the perks of fellow fatties is that we are able to laugh at things. I don't think the skinny community can just come and laugh at us whenever they want. If you haven't ever Been laughed at for being fat. I don't think you get to laugh at others. I've been called. Oh, I've been. You have to.
- [31:11]
Peter Rosenberg
The victor goes to spoil.
- [31:13]
Unknown Speaker
That's more. In our case, the opposite. But you get the idea.
- [31:16]
Alan Rosenberg
We've all been laughed at for something that's different. Come on. The Hangover. It's funny because he's fat. The best line.
- [31:24]
Unknown Speaker
Listen, it hits different when you're as thin as Alan. Don, Am I wrong? It hits a little different. It hits different when the thins say things like that just made me think.
- [31:31]
Peter Rosenberg
Of a top five. Like top five quotes from the hangover.
- [31:36]
Alan Rosenberg
That just. You couldn't say them on radio.
- [31:39]
Peter Rosenberg
Probably not. You fat Jesus.
- [31:42]
Unknown Speaker
What about. What about. What about top. Top five. Top five quotable top five quotes from like modern day comedies, you know, and.
- [31:52]
Alan Rosenberg
You could just take it from one franchise. But even have to go with. But you could again, like there's. There's just too many. You couldn't do five. The five greatest lines from comedies in the last 25 years. Just this century.
- [32:06]
Peter Rosenberg
Wow.
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Alan Rosenberg
Oh, Lord.
- [32:08]
Unknown Speaker
Well, 25.
- [32:08]
Alan Rosenberg
How many that don't make it.
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Peter Rosenberg
And something about Mary.
- [32:11]
Alan Rosenberg
Oh, yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
That's not making in 25 years, though.
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Alan Rosenberg
Wedding Crashers. Wedding Crashers.
- [32:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, no. Something about Mary Wood. 98.
- [32:18]
Unknown Speaker
Neither would dumb and Dumber.
- [32:19]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, you know what? I think we actually. You'd rather go back 30 if you're doing that. No, no. If you're doing. If you're doing 25, you're making it a hell of a lot easier.
- [32:28]
Alan Rosenberg
Wedding crash.
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Unknown Speaker
You're taking out Dumb and Dumber. You're taking out a lot.
- [32:33]
Peter Rosenberg
Take it out like Billy Madison.
- [32:34]
Unknown Speaker
Billy Madison. Shampoo is better. Is out of the conversation.
- [32:38]
Peter Rosenberg
Boom.
- [32:40]
Unknown Speaker
Also, it's. To me, it's also. What are the most usable? What are the. What are the lines that are most usable?
- [32:47]
Alan Rosenberg
You deliver them.
- [32:48]
Unknown Speaker
You do that with the kids, right?
- [32:50]
Peter Rosenberg
I do it when I'm. When I'm giving the kids a bath. I always say that. That's. Yeah. Boy, I cleaned it. Stop looking at me Swan.
- [32:57]
Unknown Speaker
That will. Stop looking at me Swan was a big deal for a long time. Just to be clear, that was. Stop looking at me.
- [33:04]
Peter Rosenberg
Old school.
- [33:04]
Alan Rosenberg
I mean, just old school's in there. Old school's in there. Barely, but it's in there.
- [33:10]
Peter Rosenberg
Oh, three.
- [33:10]
Unknown Speaker
I mean, again, bad Santa's in there, but barely.
- [33:15]
Alan Rosenberg
Wow.
- [33:15]
Peter Rosenberg
Bad Santa. I don't. I don't know.
- [33:18]
Alan Rosenberg
This would be an impossible list to me.
- [33:20]
Peter Rosenberg
Hey, Bob, Talking about the. The elves.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. But no office space no, no, no.
- [33:27]
Peter Rosenberg
Tell you what, the comedies, comedies have taken a bit of a beating because you could rattle off classics.
- [33:32]
Alan Rosenberg
Not funny that when's the last classic funny movie.
- [33:35]
Unknown Speaker
I just, I just think they're not getting made in the same way. I think that they ultimately what started getting the movie industry became about huge franchise action, kind of crappy horror and the comedy stuff. Kid comedy is kind of gone.
- [33:51]
Alan Rosenberg
It's become kid I guess the big.
- [33:53]
Unknown Speaker
Ones but not teen comedy. You want teen and up. You don't want kid.
- [33:57]
Peter Rosenberg
If you're gonna go late 2000s the most like modern ones that really you're gonna go obviously the Hangover. Right on.
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Unknown Speaker
There's something about mary's that's.
- [34:08]
Peter Rosenberg
That's 98.
- [34:08]
Unknown Speaker
Oh that's saying like first one's 98.
- [34:10]
Peter Rosenberg
You had like in the early 2000s you had wedding Crashers. You had old school. You had road trip. You got like a bunch of rapid fire ones.
- [34:18]
Alan Rosenberg
Oh, road trip.
- [34:19]
Peter Rosenberg
And then it kind of petered out with the Hangover Bridesmaids like after that even Bridesmaids probably goes back what, 50 years.
- [34:26]
Unknown Speaker
Oh horrible bosses. But that was in there.
- [34:29]
Alan Rosenberg
So here's, here's what you got in our century right now. Hangover. This is ranker Rank these. So let's just see if this lasts. 7:11.
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Peter Rosenberg
And that's 09.
- [34:41]
Alan Rosenberg
Hangover.
- [34:41]
Unknown Speaker
I'm going to ask Chatgpt see how it does.
- [34:43]
Alan Rosenberg
Super bad.
- [34:45]
Unknown Speaker
That's a while ago.
- [34:46]
Alan Rosenberg
Really.
- [34:47]
Peter Rosenberg
That's 05.
- [34:47]
Unknown Speaker
That's 20 years ago.
- [34:49]
Alan Rosenberg
07.
- [34:50]
Peter Rosenberg
Good call.
- [34:50]
Alan Rosenberg
Stepbrothers for sure. 08.
- [34:52]
Peter Rosenberg
So underrated.
- [34:53]
Alan Rosenberg
40 year old virgin. Tremendous. Meet the parents. Let's not forget that. That's right on the. It's 2000 so that barely makes the cut.
- [35:01]
Unknown Speaker
What did I say?
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Alan Rosenberg
Anchorman 04. Old School 03 Wedding Crashers 05. What are we noting by the way? The best of the best is before 2010. Yeah, there's nothing post 2010 here.
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Unknown Speaker
Bridesmaids made bridesmaids 11.
- [35:19]
Peter Rosenberg
But I don't know if it made the list there.
- [35:20]
Alan Rosenberg
No but like some of these two Super Troopers. Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland Dodgeball. That's an 04. Oh, forgetting Sarah Marshall. 08.
- [35:30]
Unknown Speaker
Strong recommend on going back to the 2006 Borat vehicle. The original Borat goodness.
- [35:37]
Peter Rosenberg
So what you're saying if you want there's Shrek's got some great lines man.
- [35:42]
Unknown Speaker
No, I love Shrek's got low key.
- [35:44]
Alan Rosenberg
Eddie Murphy, tremendous line but it's not.
- [35:46]
Unknown Speaker
In this conversation for children. It's a great movie but it's not an adult.
- [35:53]
Alan Rosenberg
That'll do. Don't care.
- [35:55]
Unknown Speaker
I love it.
- [35:58]
Peter Rosenberg
I always thought Bridesmaids was a bit overrated, but people do consider it a class. But if you go, that's 2011. So, like, post 2011, what is like a real classic comedy in the last 15 years?
- [36:09]
Alan Rosenberg
I'm still scrolling and not finding. I'm scrolling here. Elf, Mean Girls, Talladega Nights, Tropic Thunder. These are all before 10. I do not have a post 11.
- [36:18]
Peter Rosenberg
I've always said the quote, and I'm gonna tell you why. You ready? You want to know the reason why people aren't gonna, like, might get me in trouble.
- [36:25]
Alan Rosenberg
Say it. Because I'm with you.
- [36:26]
Peter Rosenberg
But what's a Phillips? The. The guy that directed Hangover? Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips said it. He's like, I got in more trouble for the things that were said in the Hangover that were politically incorrect.
- [36:39]
Alan Rosenberg
Right.
- [36:40]
Peter Rosenberg
But yet I can go make the Joker. People are getting shot in the head.
- [36:43]
Alan Rosenberg
I'm winning a war. No one's. No one cares.
- [36:45]
Peter Rosenberg
People are afraid to be politically incorrect.
- [36:48]
Alan Rosenberg
To offend anyone.
- [36:50]
Peter Rosenberg
To offend anybody. And it has really taken a lot of the fun out of the movie.
- [36:53]
Alan Rosenberg
Just the Hangover during the credits with the elevator. Are you kidding me? I was. We were watching that. My in laws were sitting on the couch. We watched it for fun and I forgot about that.
- [37:05]
Unknown Speaker
I don't remember. What was it nudity or something? I don't remember.
- [37:08]
Alan Rosenberg
It was. It did a lot.
- [37:09]
Unknown Speaker
Oh, they show like the things that were happening.
- [37:11]
Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, yeah.
- [37:12]
Peter Rosenberg
It's not appropriate.
- [37:13]
Alan Rosenberg
The photos. The photos. All the photos.
- [37:15]
Peter Rosenberg
The example that Todd Phillips gave was in the Hangover. We're in their car driving to Vegas and he's reading about where. About counting cards, and he's talking about Rain Man.
- [37:27]
Unknown Speaker
Yes, we know the line. We know the line.
- [37:29]
Peter Rosenberg
And he's like, I get Todd. Feels like I got killed for that. Being politically incorrect instead of it just being a funny line.
- [37:34]
Unknown Speaker
But I want to. Here's what.
- [37:35]
Peter Rosenberg
Hollywood could sit there and everybody's shooting each other and it's like a war.
- [37:39]
Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, murder's fine.
- [37:40]
Unknown Speaker
Can I push back to Todd Phillips, though? Who's not here to answer.
- [37:43]
Peter Rosenberg
Right.
- [37:43]
Unknown Speaker
Where did he get killed?
- [37:45]
Peter Rosenberg
Like what?
- [37:45]
Unknown Speaker
Or do they just not want to make it anymore?
- [37:48]
Alan Rosenberg
Because.
- [37:49]
Unknown Speaker
No, no, never, by the way.
- [37:50]
Alan Rosenberg
I'm not.
- [37:51]
Unknown Speaker
He started directing bigger and bigger movies in his mouth.
- [37:54]
Peter Rosenberg
But what he's pro is that the studios are probably giving him hell and. And clean it up.
- [37:59]
Unknown Speaker
I'm sure they're scared of adult comedies. But here's my. Here's my problem.
- [38:03]
Alan Rosenberg
Well, Tarantino must have felt the same thing because some of the Tarantino stuff is completely.
- [38:07]
Peter Rosenberg
But there is, there is something about like, obviously Tarantino does get criticized for certain things in his movies, but doesn't it hit a lot different in a serious drama than it is in a comic? Comedies are held to kind of a different standard, which is, by the way, stupid.
- [38:24]
Unknown Speaker
The comedies should actually get held to.
- [38:26]
Alan Rosenberg
Because we all know it's jok joke.
- [38:27]
Unknown Speaker
Right. But I just. My question is. It's an easy thing for people to say. That's the reason I'm trying to remember when there was actually real life controversy because a comedy was too edgy. I don't know when that's actually happened. Now maybe the studio.
- [38:41]
Alan Rosenberg
Eddie Murphy, raw.
- [38:43]
Unknown Speaker
Well, sure, Richard Pryor, which by the way. But even then. And like those are things that did not age well at all. But even then, not that big a deal.
- [38:51]
Peter Rosenberg
Do I think that if you decided to make a Hangover now, would it get criticized were there be articles or how inappropriate it was? I'm sure there would be. And people would still go see it and it would still be a hit and would still make money. However, while you're making it, you don't think that these studios who don't want to hear the garbage are just gonna say, guys, you gotta tone it down. And once you start to do that now you've taken. Now great comedy is going there. Like any comedian will tell you that it's dancing on the line, going there and sometimes crossing it. That's the classic humor. And if I'm gonna restrict myself to where I'm afraid to offend people now I'm working at such a disadvantage. Do you know how funny my movie has to be for be able to navigate all of that garbage and still be funny when back in the day I could just make it, not worry about it.
- [39:40]
Unknown Speaker
I don't disagree with you that it would make it a huge challenge. My only disagreement is where has it actually happened? Or was it simply that studios thought we won't make money so we're not gonna do it. We're scared that people will be offended. Thus we're not going to try. Because I think if they did it, nothing would happen.
- [39:56]
Peter Rosenberg
Cancel culture really comes from is that somebody above just doesn't want to hear it. There's no evidence that it would lose any money. There's no evidence that anybody would get fired. It's just that, you know what? I don't want to get the calls. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to see the articles. Is there a way we can do it where we can avoid that? And once you limit yourself in anything, whether it's great radio, great comedy, great movies, then you're putting a governor on yourself and you can't truly be great. You think that there's a coincidence that we can't think of a really classic great comedy in the last 15 years, but yet I could rattle off 20 of them in the span of like a three year.
- [40:32]
Alan Rosenberg
But it's so funny what you said, though. It's basically like Bridesmaids, the Big Short, like that's all you got in the last 10 years or the last 15 years. The silver Linings Playbook wasn't really.
- [40:42]
Unknown Speaker
Neither is Big Short.
- [40:43]
Alan Rosenberg
It's kind of funny.
- [40:43]
Unknown Speaker
Big Short's not a comedy.
- [40:44]
Alan Rosenberg
Yeah, it's not a comedy. That's what they're selling it as though.
- [40:48]
Unknown Speaker
I feel like we're still forgetting a few things for sure, but the fact that they don't come up as much is interesting. I just think if you go back and look at all these movies that were, quote, unquote, controversial, they weren't that controversial.
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Alan Rosenberg
And that's what makes them quotable, because they're fun. I will get to your calls, 800-919-3776. Remember ENN at six like it ought to be. Oh yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
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Unknown Speaker
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Alan Rosenberg
For listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Unknown Speaker
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Alan Rosenberg
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast. I love some Stevie.
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Peter Rosenberg
I think this is his best song.
- [43:58]
Alan Rosenberg
The best song.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh stop.
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Peter Rosenberg
Stop yourself. No.
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Alan Rosenberg
Superstition is. This is up there.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, but it's not.
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Alan Rosenberg
It's not. I don't know if it's the best.
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Peter Rosenberg
Then what?
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Unknown Speaker
It's not.
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Peter Rosenberg
Then what?
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Unknown Speaker
Love isn't. Love is in need of love. Everything from songs in the Key of life.
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Peter Rosenberg
This is my favorite.
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Unknown Speaker
I love. Oh by the way, I'm not trying to say I don't love Superstition. It's just like he has songs that are so, like much, so much more meaningful. I guess Superstition.
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Alan Rosenberg
Not. Don't be the music nerd that names songs that nobody's heard of.
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Unknown Speaker
No, you know what I mean.
- [44:29]
Alan Rosenberg
Don't say everybody don't say. Because if Don had no idea like you you named a song that not everybody knows.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, he absolutely knows it. I promise you he knows it.
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Peter Rosenberg
Jacob, play it.
- [44:42]
Alan Rosenberg
You're a music guy.
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Unknown Speaker
I mean, he's a music guy who's 12 years old.
- [44:46]
Alan Rosenberg
No, no, he's got. He goes deep, man. Yeah.
- [44:49]
Peter Rosenberg
But I would say all I do.
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Alan Rosenberg
Probably Masha Ria more like.
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Peter Rosenberg
Those are, to me, like, the ones.
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Alan Rosenberg
That he's actually singing, like, feeling like he's singing. I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot of other songs that I could name that other people would definitely.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, for the record, Love's in need of Love is the first note on the greatest maybe American album ever made. It's the first track on Songs of the Key of Life. You will know it the second you hear it. It isn't.
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Alan Rosenberg
Don. You ever hear it?
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Unknown Speaker
If he didn't hear. Well, if he didn't hear it, then retire from music, then. Don't talk. You don't have to remember it up your head.
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Peter Rosenberg
Rolling Stone magazine.
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Unknown Speaker
Sure.
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Peter Rosenberg
Okay.
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Unknown Speaker
But now, by the way, on what, a list? Not really.
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Peter Rosenberg
They gave the top 50 Stevie Wonder songs.
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Unknown Speaker
Okay.
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Alan Rosenberg
I like it.
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Peter Rosenberg
Superstition was number one.
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Unknown Speaker
I mean, listen.
- [45:30]
Peter Rosenberg
So all of a sudden, you're done. All subjective.
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Alan Rosenberg
You're done.
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Peter Rosenberg
Can't kill me for saying I think it's the greatest when Rolling Stone has it.
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Unknown Speaker
Hold on. I'm legitimately asking in earnest. I don't remember. Did I kill you or. Basically, I was wrong.
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Peter Rosenberg
You made it seem like me suggesting it was number one was outlandish.
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Alan Rosenberg
And then you went highbrow with like. It's not.
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Unknown Speaker
Play the song, Jake.
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Alan Rosenberg
Only people play.
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Unknown Speaker
Play the song. No one knows, please.
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Peter Rosenberg
Number two. They have signed Seal delivered I'm yours.
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Alan Rosenberg
I would put it there.
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Peter Rosenberg
Number three. Higher Ground, which I also.
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Unknown Speaker
Higher Ground.
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Alan Rosenberg
Great. My Sherry Amore is a good one. I wish.
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Unknown Speaker
Knocks me off my feet up Uptight.
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Peter Rosenberg
Everything's all right. Number four. Number five. Living in the City.
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Alan Rosenberg
Yeah. Living in the City is one of my favorite.
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Peter Rosenberg
Which one did you say?
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Unknown Speaker
Love is in need of love.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, Sir Duke is eight.
- [46:14]
Alan Rosenberg
Sir Duke's okay. It's a little poppy.
- [46:16]
Unknown Speaker
I'm good on Sir Duke.
- [46:17]
Alan Rosenberg
I wish. Should be on that.
- [46:18]
Unknown Speaker
Play the song, please. They've never.
- [46:20]
Alan Rosenberg
No one's ever heard Once in My Life.
- [46:21]
Peter Rosenberg
Fantastic.
- [46:25]
Alan Rosenberg
No, no.
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Unknown Speaker
You don't know the song.
- [46:27]
Peter Rosenberg
No.
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Unknown Speaker
But then you've never listened to the greatest album he's ever made. So why am I having a conversation with you?
- [46:32]
Alan Rosenberg
See what I mean? See, he just said, I'm sorry. This is high Fidelity. He went Jack Black. No, no, it's Jack Black and High.
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Unknown Speaker
Fidelity, by the way.
- [46:38]
Alan Rosenberg
You guys should both.
- [46:40]
Unknown Speaker
Hold on. You guys should Both take the L. You should just take the L on the fact it would be like, hold on. Just hear me out. Let me make my argument.
- [46:45]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean, I'm sure if you just hear me.
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Unknown Speaker
Hear me out.
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Alan Rosenberg
It's not relevant to everybody else.
- [46:52]
Unknown Speaker
But if I jump in and go, guys, let me tell you the best song that AC DC ever made. And then you play the first song on Back in Black, and I go, I've never heard that song. You would go, shut up. I don't want to hear from you anymore.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's all.
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Unknown Speaker
Now, I'm not saying you have to agree it's the greatest song, but the second you make me sound like I'm nuts because I said the first song on Songs of the Key of Life, which is, hands down, his greatest album ever made it is that I agree. That's not a crazy take. I wasn't trying to be that guy. Every. Honestly, almost every song on here I like at least as much as Superstition. That's all I'm saying.
- [47:23]
Peter Rosenberg
But you're. You were being that guy.
- [47:25]
Unknown Speaker
Which part was being that guy?
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Peter Rosenberg
That. That's not one of his known songs.
- [47:30]
Alan Rosenberg
Yes, that's right.
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Unknown Speaker
For people who aren't fan. I'm a fan, though. I go to his concerts.
- [47:36]
Peter Rosenberg
He's missing the point.
- [47:38]
Alan Rosenberg
You're missing the point.
- [47:39]
Unknown Speaker
No, I'm not missing the point. You're.
- [47:40]
Peter Rosenberg
You're telling me that I'm not qualified to make that. That's what you're saying.
- [47:44]
Unknown Speaker
Well, if.
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Peter Rosenberg
Own it.
- [47:45]
Unknown Speaker
If you don't know the song, if you've never heard that song. I don't care what you say about Stevie Won.
- [47:50]
Peter Rosenberg
Well, there you go. That's it.
- [47:51]
Alan Rosenberg
That's it.
- [47:52]
Unknown Speaker
That's it.
- [47:52]
Alan Rosenberg
Right. That.
- [47:53]
Peter Rosenberg
Sorry.
- [47:54]
Alan Rosenberg
That in itself is if. Yeah.
- [47:57]
Unknown Speaker
If you've never heard the first song on Graceland. I don't care what you have to say about Paul Simon.
- [48:01]
Peter Rosenberg
When I bring up a song and Rolling Stone agrees with. Well, no, it's not a. I'm not.
- [48:07]
Alan Rosenberg
That's acceptable, though.
- [48:08]
Peter Rosenberg
Now we've made two points. Gotten it interesting. But Don, have you heard? Or Don, if you took a deeper dive, show some respect. Instead, you just urinated.
- [48:17]
Unknown Speaker
No, Allen's made it worse.
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Peter Rosenberg
I know more than you. No, you dumb animal. Shut up. Hey, you can say whatever you want. That's the way I took it.
- [48:27]
Unknown Speaker
Well, I apologize.
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Alan Rosenberg
You went Kathleen Turner overdrive on us. That's what you did.
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Unknown Speaker
You went too far, Alan. No one knows that song. That was the part where it's like, well, now, where Are we going. You don't know the songs from the greatest album ever made. It's the greatest album ever made.
- [48:41]
Peter Rosenberg
No, everybody agrees with that, but just.
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Unknown Speaker
It's the first. Generally, all you gotta do is hit play.
- [48:46]
Alan Rosenberg
Generally speaking, though, play the beginning of the song.
- [48:49]
Unknown Speaker
Let it go for 30 seconds. We're not getting sued. Here we go. And now he's sighing at it like it's a bad song because he's never heard.
- [48:58]
Alan Rosenberg
It's not about the song now. It's no longer about the song.
- [49:03]
Unknown Speaker
Just give it a moment. It hasn't started yet. Doesn't count, people. Good morning, friend.
- [49:10]
Alan Rosenberg
That's a great song.
- [49:11]
Peter Rosenberg
I've heard this, but this is not. This is not that. This doesn't get played in any kind of rotation. It probably was not a hit.
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Unknown Speaker
I don't even think it was a single.
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Alan Rosenberg
Which is why the point that we're making is. Is like, for the general public, the most, you know, Most famous song 1. You know the most.
- [49:34]
Unknown Speaker
Then let's go with I called to say I love you. Now we're officially at High Fidelity.
- [49:38]
Alan Rosenberg
Character. No, no.
- [49:38]
Peter Rosenberg
That's what I would say.
- [49:39]
Unknown Speaker
He's hurting the argument, Don. You're arguing. You're teamed up with a guy you don't want to be teamed up with. He's making it worse.
- [49:46]
Alan Rosenberg
No, I know, I know. No, now you just made it.
- [49:48]
Peter Rosenberg
It's the biggest song.
- [49:49]
Unknown Speaker
Why is it the go with I called to say I love you?
- [49:51]
Alan Rosenberg
You think that's the one that everybody's go to is just because it was popular, because it was a number one.
- [49:56]
Unknown Speaker
You're just saying. You're saying.
- [49:57]
Alan Rosenberg
That's not what I was thinking about.
- [49:58]
Peter Rosenberg
Is.
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Unknown Speaker
Is the biggest hit.
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Alan Rosenberg
You are Little Man.
- [50:01]
Peter Rosenberg
That's what you're doing. Hits as a gauge. But when a guy has a ton of hits and a song that was not released as a single. Yeah, you could appreciate it. Yeah, but it's probably not going to get as appreciated as the songs that he did release his singles. That might not even be a song. He might. He might not perform it live. Every band's got a song. Oh, no.
- [50:21]
Unknown Speaker
He plays that song.
- [50:22]
Peter Rosenberg
There are bands that I like. I could tell you Judas Priest. Songs that even, like metal fans would be like. I don't remember that song. That I think are amazing.
- [50:28]
Unknown Speaker
But it would never be. It would never be the first track on their biggest album, though. The first track on someone's biggest album is a. It's a known song by people who are fans.
- [50:36]
Alan Rosenberg
I have a question. Do we want to lead into ENN like, no, no.
- [50:40]
Peter Rosenberg
I want to do this until 7 and open the show tomorrow with it.
- [50:43]
Unknown Speaker
By the way, I could do it for the week.
- [50:45]
Peter Rosenberg
No, I'll get me fired. But you know what? I'll walk out with a smile on my face.
- [50:49]
Unknown Speaker
That's exactly right.
- [50:50]
Peter Rosenberg
That it was gratifying.
- [50:50]
Alan Rosenberg
Radio All I know is this, is that the one good thing that came of this is that I know I'll be listening to Stevie Wonder my entire ride home. Good. That absolutely inspired me to do that. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Roasted Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.