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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
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Peter Rosenberg
Don 504 on this President's Day Monday talking about it all like you dream about NBA All Star solutions. Richard believes you could replace the NBA players with cute animals and they could play instead. Maybe you have a suggestion. Maybe this is a great, great opportunity to use the bullpen coyote. We don't know but they got to come up with something done.
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Don Hahn
Bullpen coyote was, was before its time.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, they weren't ready yet for the bullpen coyote.
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Don Hahn
No, I don't think we were ready to have that convert. We weren't ready to go to that extreme. Now it feels like we would hear somebody out with that idea. It was a joke when you said it. Now I think we fast forward 10 years later. You know what, we're going to put it on the table. We're going to see. We just have to check with with PETA to make sure that no animals are being mistreated and go with it.
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Peter Rosenberg
But by the way, so it is official. We'll get the US And Canada on Thursday. That's an ABC vehicle there, Doug. Yes, it's an ABC vehicle for the final in the four nations. But the US Plays tonight is Tonight's an ESPN vehicle as well, right?
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Don Hahn
No tnt.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, they're both tnt. It's a TNT double header.
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Don Hahn
Okay, TNT double header. Game is meaningless. Sweden's already been eliminated. We already know the matchup. So there's a couple of guys that are banged up for Team USA including Matthew Kachuk, Charlie McAvoy who are not going to play. So Ranger fans, Chris Kreider will get a chance to play in four nations for the first time. So this won't mean anything because we're already set us.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Don Hahn
The other story that I think deserves some conversation is Montas being out for the next six to eight weeks. And that's not nothing because not only is he going to be out six to eight weeks, but then he's gonna have to go through spring training. So we're probably not going to see him until sometime, you know, maybe May or June. So the Mets might be in the market of trying to find another pitcher. I find it interesting that there are people who thought that it was an awful signing and now he's hurting. They're like, oh my God, they're really going to miss him. What's the truth? But they are going to miss him because they were hoping that he would be able to contribute to the beginning of the season and he will not. Quintana is still out there. I guess they can kick the tires on that. Or do they just go at McGill in the rotation or somebody else that might make the roster during the course of the spring and just try to survive without him until he's able to come back. So, um, it'll be interesting, the Holmes trying to make the rotation here going from closer to starter. So if that doesn't work out, you could be shorthanded. I think they will be active to try to find a pitcher to replace him. But it's not nothing. Peter, no matter how you felt about him as a pitcher, you still lost a starter for a significant piece of the beginning of the season. So we'll see how they address it.
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Peter Rosenberg
Let's hear from Mendoza on the Montas situation.
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Don Hahn
Frankie Montes dealing with a LAT strain. He's a high grade LAT strain, so he's shut down from throwing six to eight weeks. He's on his way to New York right now to get a PRP injection. So that's what we got. So what is it? February 17th. So say it goes the full eight weeks. That means he could start throwing again. Do extended spring training in April 17, mid. Mid April. Which means I guess it's possible you can get him back at the beginning of May. And remember the Met. The Mets got off to an awful start last year. They look like they were out of it. In June. So we were just talking about meaningful, meaningful regular season. Baseball's a long, arduous season that if you do get off to a slow start, the Mets proved you can get up from it. So I don't think they have to panic. But you still need five starters. So we'll see how it shakes down and how they decide to address this.
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Peter Rosenberg
Let's talk to the people, Don, on the very, very busy phones. Let's start with Chris in the UPS trucks. Been on hold for a while. What's up, Chris?
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Chris
Hey, what's up, guys? Listen one, Peter, congratulations on your baby. I do agree with you. Richard is a hundred percent bugging out the. It has to go back to east versus west. That whole team LeBron versus team KD killed it. Now, I got a solution that you guys have not talked about. Everybody has not talked about something so simple. Or all the threes that are being thrown shot during the game. You take a point away for each missed shot.
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John
One point.
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Chris
Not two, not three. Just take one point. Each steal, you take away one point. And that will change the whole dynamic and the whole competition of every single. Every single game. It won't be so give and take. If you take. If you shoot 15 for 35, guess what, you just minus 20 points throughout that whole game. You lost 20 points. I think that is what they're gonna. They should do because they're not gonna.
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Don Hahn
Get rid of the three.
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Chris
They're not going to take away the corner like Michael K is suggesting. They're not going to do that. Take away a point, something so small that will change the whole game. Take care, guys.
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Don Hahn
Now, is he saying for the All Star Game or for every game?
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Peter Rosenberg
You mean. Yeah. You mean All Star Game, right? I assume he means All Star Game, but I still don't know.
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Don Hahn
I feel. No, listen, I want to be able to follow what's going on. And how am I. You'd be talking about. There'd be games like. Wait a minute, the score is 2 to negative 10. That would be. We. I think again, we're trying too hard, bro.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. I think, guys, if all we're looking for. Here's the thing, we're trying to come up with ways to trick people into caring. I do not. I think you'll agree with me, Don. The path here is not tricking people into caring. It's coming up with a game that they could actually care about. That's. That's what the NHL did. The NHL is not tricking anyone. They said, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna try this international competition instead. And look organically, the people care. Don. I don't think they can try to legislate carrying in with wacky rules.
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Don Hahn
I just maybe how embarrassed the NBA seemed to be this weekend. Will the players, like you said that with the slam dunk that Giannis and Ja now want to get involved, like, that's what you need, is that maybe the players will just show some pride and say, I don't want my sport getting bashed. I don't want. I don't want the sport that I love to now be thrown under the bus here and have hockey all of a sudden take attention away from us. Can it get to that point, like, let's guys, let's show some pride here. We represent the NBA. It's an All Star game. We're here because of the guys back in the past that cared about this. Let's care. How do you get somebody to care about something they don't care about? It's like trying to get somebody to fall in love with you. I mean, you try every flower, you try to say all the things you got to say, you try to impress them, and then at some point you're like, all right, it's not working out. Like, how do you get somebody to care about something they don't care about? Maybe this weekend. That's the first time as a hockey fan, that's the first time I was able to stick my chest out and go, wow, look at this. Look at the attention that's on us here on this Saturday. How often do I go on social media and see the NBA getting bashed and the NHL being praised not by hockey fans, but by all of sports?
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Peter Rosenberg
You know, everybody seemed to have the same thought. Let's go to Calvin in the Heights. What's up, Calvin?
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Don Hahn
Hey, Peter.
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Calvin
Congratulations, Dawn. I'm a huge fan of you. But I have. I have to disagree with a comment you made earlier about the World Baseball Classic and in hockey. I love the idea what hockey did is a win for them. But to be very transparent, the United States right now in the competition, they're not the dominant country when it comes to baseball. Even when the World Baseball Classic is done, when the fate on when they put up the odds, the favorite was actually the Dominican Republic. I feel like Japan has an easier route to make it because they have less competition in that side of the side of the world. But if you look at the players, players for players, or all the All Stars, it's like a dream team. What the Dominican Republic can put. And the US can put that as well, but they won't be favorites.
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Don Hahn
But, but that's. But is every great American player participating?
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John
Of course.
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Calvin
Look, last World Baseball Classic, the only one that did not participate that was great was Aaron Judge. But Dominican Republic didn't have Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Ramirez, and that kind of equals out. You didn't have a job, but that. You're talking about one Vladi.
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Don Hahn
But it's still our sport right there. The, the whatever country, even Japan. All right. Or, or one of the. Whether the Caribbean country. Do they have a league that everybody wants to go play or do they come here to play? The majority of Major League Baseball players are still American born. Correct. It's getting better. And the competition level is getting better. I agree with you. But it's still considered our sport. Yeah, other countries can beat us. It can happen. But for the most part because of.
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Calvin
The writing of the. It's your sport because we're playing here in the US but if you look for talent, like I can tell you, because the players already are announcing who's going to participate. They in social media saying Vladi announced he's going to play first base. Jose Ramirez, you have Manny Machado, Tattis, his contract. Julio Rodriguez is participating. These are superstars.
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Don Hahn
What country, what country is better than the United States?
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Calvin
I just said it. The Dominican Republic has a favorite. They have a better lineup and a better team.
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Don Hahn
So you see. But they might put together a better team. But we still more American born players than the Dominican players. You couldn't have a whole Major League Baseball full of Dominican players.
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Calvin
No, no. It's impossible to have a whole 32 teams full of Dominican players. But are you saying a tournament like a World Baseball Classic, like we're doing now with the four nations, it could work in baseball because the World Baseball Classic has a competition. Venezuela could put out a great team as well. Japan could put out a great team and the competition will be just, just as good.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, I mean, listen, you make a very good point, but at the same time, I just don't think we ever would be looked upon as the underdog. Now maybe we do get to that point. That's why I do think the World Baseball Classic is gaining traction because of all the reasons you said other countries have shown that they can beat the United States, that it's not a given anymore. That's why it's getting better. But it's still our game. Like we feel like in the United States with hockey. We feel like we're an outsider. It's not our sport where it's Canada's sport. And in other parts of the world, they believe they're the best at it. And so we have to feel like every time. That's why 1980 was such a huge upset. Even if there might be baseball as.
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Calvin
Well, though respectfully, that's how other countries feel. Like when you hear the Dominican players or the Japanese players, they feel like they have the best, the best team when it comes to the world's way. That's why the US has put out their best players and announcing.
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Don Hahn
Right? Because it's starting to get to that point. No, you're right. We're starting to get to that point, but it's still, it still feels like it's ours.
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Peter Rosenberg
Where hockey I can put.
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Calvin
I will highly disagree because so many, even our pools announced that he's going to be the manager for the. These players are coming out and announcing that they want to play.
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Peter Rosenberg
But you're like, Calvin, I feel like you're arguing almost two things. You're arguing, you're kind of arguing whether or not they should feel like it's their thing to lose. Don is just arguing. That's how people see it. He's not even arguing like, yes, the US is hands down the favorite. He's saying the problem is from a US Fan. Because I think, Calvin, what you're saying is, are Dominican fans gonna be into it?
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Don Hahn
Yes.
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Peter Rosenberg
Venezuelan? Yes. Japan. We already saw it. Well, I think we're talking about is getting Americans to care. And I don't know that Don's wrong about how America.
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Don Hahn
Right. Because I think to this point, America doesn't feel threatened. But it's starting to change. As you just said, the WBC was a thing. Last year when Ohtani took on Trout, that was a thing. People paid attention to that. So it is growing to that point. But for a long time, a lot of people grew up, an American born baseball player doesn't think about playing internationally. They don't think about going to the Olympics and playing. But a hockey player knows, wait, we're talking over each other. A hockey player grows up saying, I want to go to the NHL, but I also want to go to the Olympics. I want to be able to compete internationally. Baseball players growing up here don't think that that might change over time because as you said, other countries are threatening us. They're actually being better than us. And that might change to where my son decides to play baseball. He might think about, I want to play in the World Baseball Classic. That's a thing that takes time. But as a young hockey player, you're thinking about representing your country in the Olympics. You're thinking about playing in the world, playing in international baseball classes. Well, no.
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Calvin
The problem is with the Olympics in baseball. The best placebo players during the Olympics when they play, are in or are playing during the season. So they cannot participate in the Olympics. That's why the World Baseball classics is so good, because you have the professional players participating in the world Baseball.
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Don Hahn
Right, but it's going to take some time, man. I mean, a lot of the. Listen, the north, the four nations is brand new, but international hockey is not brand new. International baseball to somebody in the United States is a brand new concept. All they think about is the World Series. They think about Major League Baseball. That's how the United States views baseball. That's not necessarily how the United States views hockey. That there are other aspects. There's been more international play. The biggest hockey moment in the history of this country happened in the Olympics in 1980. That's how a lot of fans have basically know about this sport. That's not where it is in baseball. Fast forward a few years from now, guys. That might change because the international players are better. But right now, most Americans don't think internationally when it comes to baseball. The World Baseball Classic is not a big deal. But I think that can change. But I'm sorry, right now to most baseball fans, they're only thinking about their team in the World Series. They're not thinking about anything else.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, we were kind of. Listen, he makes some good points and I do think that we could get to the point where people really do care that much about in baseball. But by the way, fun conversation and I appreciate Calvin being so passionate about it. The truth is, baseball is not really the problem we're talking about. We're talking about the problem with NBA All Star Weekend.
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Don Hahn
Right? And. And the bet one of the best baseball players on the planet didn't play in the wbc. He didn't care enough about it. But Sidney Crosby's representing Canada. Nathan McKinnon is representing Canada. McDavid's playing in this thing. The Kachuk brothers are playing in this thing. It is not the same on baseball level that Aaron Judge didn't play. Now maybe that'll change.
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Peter Rosenberg
Let's go to John in the car, who wants to talk NBA All Star Weekend. What's up, John?
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John
What's up, fellas? Peter, first let me just say congratulations, man. And welcome to the girl dad fraternity, bro.
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Peter Rosenberg
Thank you, brother. I'M happy to be here.
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John
Absolutely. Absolutely. God bless you. I tuned in earlier when Tessa was talking about the, the juggernaut sports, youth sports. I just, she, she mentioned gymnastics. Let me add youth track and field to that because I coach my daughter who you've. Track and field in the tournaments. I mean the, the, the, the meets and the hotels and traveling and this and that and the other. It is, it is a bear, man. It really is in the track meets all along, like from 8:00 in the morning to like 5:00 in the. It's like, it's literally like a full day's work. And so I just wanted to add that. But, you know, you know, I'm sitting here telling you about this. Meanwhile, it paid off for me because my daughter is currently in college on an athletic scholarship and she's on a track team. So, you know, it's an investment, man. You know, but you, you got to be committed as a parent. Now. The All Star Game, fellas, you know, it was an awful television product over the weekend. It was just awful. And I think it might be time for the NBA to consider abolishing it. Now, I know with TV contracts and the networks and stuff like that, they probably won't do that. But honestly, if we're being honest, the NBA All Star Game jumped the shark maybe about a decade ago. Maybe about a decade. In fact, I think Jump the Shark has jumped the shark, you know what I'm saying? And no matter, the problem is no matter how many bells and whistles you try to put around All Star Weekend, no matter how many celebrity use celebrities, you try to come and get and participate and they'll all do it. But the bottom line is people want to see a good competitive game. And body language tells, tells you a lot. And the players bottom line, they don't want to play.
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Don Hahn
They don't want to play.
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John
They look like it. It looks like it. You get a more competitive game. They were talking about Rutgers on the bro. I mean, a Rucker park on the broadcast. You would get a more competitive game in West 4th or in Rucker or at Dyckman, you know what I'm saying? So I think, I think it's, it's. I think it might be over because.
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Peter Rosenberg
Again, it probably is.
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John
The bottom line is the players don't want to play in. The television product was terrible. From the audio. I don't think it was produced, you know, really, you know. Well, it was just bad. It was just bad all the way around.
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Peter Rosenberg
Thank you for the call, John. We appreciate it. Yeah, it's. I can't speak to the production. The part, the few minutes I saw looked like regular, you know, TNT production and had the regular bells and whistles. But I think we're trying to find ways to put lipstick on this pig. And as Michael K. Might say, Don and I just don't know that there's enough lipstick in the world to do it. That's why what we're talking about today, an overall complete format flip. Now, they tried it, Don. With what they did this year, I think this year had the adverse effect. It feels like they cared even less about it.
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Don Hahn
Right.
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Peter Rosenberg
So. So I don't think that this multiple game playing to a point total is it either. I mean, listen, like I said, I didn't watch it live. I was watching Saturday Night Live. I flipped over and watched the highlights later. It felt very similar. Like Steph is just rolling down the court, popping up threes. Which by the way, it's double bad. Not only is that bad because it makes an All Star game boring, it's double bad because that's practically what regular season NBA games already feel like.
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Don Hahn
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Stamatis
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Peter Rosenberg
Free.
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Stamatis
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Don Hahn
Okay.
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Peter Rosenberg
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Stamatis
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Calvin
Yeah.
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Stamatis
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Don Hahn
You might as well call it A.
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Stamatis
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Peter Rosenberg
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Stamatis
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Don Hahn
Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.
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Peter Rosenberg
I didn't listen to anything you just said.
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Don Hahn
Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.
- [22:37]
Peter Rosenberg
Well done. We are working from home on this holiday Monday and I was just privy to. To my second official blowout from the baby.
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Don Hahn
Blowout?
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. You familiar with that term that. That existed prior to your kids? I know it.
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Don Hahn
I mean, I can assume what it is.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, that's. That's. That's exactly what it is. Second. Second one. We had not had it up until three days ago. And now we had back to back periods of like two days with no poop. And then something just unlike something ungodly. Something wrong. It's like something from the, from the Exorcist.
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Don Hahn
What you're saying, it is funny early on. It's adorable. And then it's like, oh my God. Toxic.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, no, this isn't. This is not. We're not at the toxic levels. From what I've heard about when you start giving the baby solid food, but just the amount that comes from the.
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Don Hahn
Oh yeah, is.
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Peter Rosenberg
I mean, Anthony, what I'm. What I'm describing is you open up the baby's outfit and you see it coming out of the front, you go, how did this get here?
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Don Hahn
Typically that doesn't happen.
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Peter Rosenberg
That's what you're. It's not what you're going for.
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Don Hahn
Hasn't been my experience.
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Peter Rosenberg
What would you personally.
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Don Hahn
Yes, exactly.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah. No, it's not. It's not usually my hope either, but boy, it is. It is an interesting experience. You really. It is unbelievable, Don, to think about a time when your Kids give you a hard time, like, later in life, like, based on the things that you see when they're days, weeks, months old and the things that you do for them. The idea of them one day turning around and like, screw you, dad. I'm going to the Arcade Fire concert. I'm trying to come up with a generic concert that a kid might want to go to. I don't know. Playboy, Carti. I don't know. You get the idea.
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Don Hahn
It's an old dice bit from the day of the laughter died. I can't. I've got to clean it up. But it's like you, you know, your kid gets older and says, hey, dad, you know, can I borrow the car keys? Like, no, you know, I don't think it's a good idea. It's a little rainy out. Well, blank you, dad. No, no, blank you. That's. I didn't wipe you when you were a kid. You know, hey, I'll do all this for you, but it's what you sign up for. There'll be a point. I haven't reached it yet, obviously, but everybody keeps warning me that there'll be a point where there'll be a lack of appreciation. But right now, you're still.
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Peter Rosenberg
You're still super dad. They're loving you still. You're still very popular.
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Don Hahn
It'll turn at some point. You're starting to see signs. Just a little bit. Little talk back. Once they start getting opinions, that's when you're in trouble.
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Peter Rosenberg
Are you the more popular parent?
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Don Hahn
Yes. Just because I'm not around as much. And I might have a tendency to say yes when Mommy says no, because that's already happened. Where Marco or Jalen will ask, can I have this right? And then I hear. I hear Nancy in the background. I already said no, because they know that I'm the yes guy. And that's where, you know, Daddy's mama, Jace. Because my, you know, Nancy obviously has a whole plan and I don't. Sometimes I'm not privy to the plan. I'm a typical guy. Like a pool player, like an amateur pool player is just trying to get the shot that's there. The professionals are four or five shots ahead, right? Nancy's four or five shots ahead. You're not allowed to have that cookie because of this, that and the other thing. And I'm maybe I'm not either. Either not privy to the plan or just didn't pay attention to when it was first installed. Probably the latter.
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Peter Rosenberg
Did you see Jordan Ronan's post earlier today?
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Don Hahn
About the D. Oh, there was a. There was a few of them.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, he put up a poll basically saying, oh, yeah, yeah, would you trade picks if you're a Giants fan to get the number one overall pick? And the fans overwhelmingly said, no, no, we got to keep those picks. Which is interesting. It's evened out now. Anthony, how close is it now? The poll is still going on, but.
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Don Hahn
It'S now 52% say keep the picks. Earlier in the day, it was much more towards keeping the picks, but I think we will start to see that this is much more even amongst Giant.
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Peter Rosenberg
Fans of what they feel like they should do.
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Don Hahn
But you're asking, do you like these two quarterbacks? That's what it really comes down to, right? I mean, that you're asking an interesting question, but ultimately the question you're asking is, do you want either of these two quarterbacks? And if the answer is no, then it's either trade down or take somebody else at three. But don't move up. But if you love one of these quarterbacks, and quite frankly, I don't have enough information to even feel like I can answer the question. That so. No, I don't. I wouldn't think to even know how to answer it. If you don't have any knowledge or an opinion on either of these quarterbacks, then how could you answer it?
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, you can't really give a good legit take on this if you haven't watched the quarterbacks in a real way. But if you love one of the quarterbacks, then the idea of holding on to picks if there's a quarterback out there you love is crazy.
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Don Hahn
Well, let me ask you this. We've done enough conversations about this and heard and done a ton of interviews on this subject. Is there any consensus that either of these quarterbacks are going to be right?
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Peter Rosenberg
I have not heard that. If it's there yet.
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Don Hahn
Now, even if they. Even if there was, doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be true. But I have not heard anybody say can't miss. I haven't heard anybody say, I would take this. I don't. I think that there's a general blah about these two quarterbacks, and if you feel the Giants should drate up with that information, what you're saying is, I think we're so desperate for a quarterback, I'm willing to mortgage the future on a complete unknown. I can't do that. I'm hoping that my general manager has more of a clue. I can't say with any kind of confidence that they do, but that's the hope is that they have a conviction on somebody. The way Ernie, of course he had a conviction on Eli. As wrong as it was the conviction the jets had on Mark Sanchez. And then you do whatever you got to do. I have no problem with it. If somebody were. If I found that information that Shane believed in his heart that Shador Sanders is can't miss, has to have him. Hey, it's his job that's on the line, so I'll trust him. But I haven't heard anything like that.
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Peter Rosenberg
Let's hear from Mike in Rockland County. What's up, Mike?
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Don Hahn
Hi, Mike.
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Mike
Hey, what's going on, guys? First of all, I love you both. You have no idea, either of you, how much you've gotten me through over the course of the last however many years. And yeah, the new dynamic with Han is great. It's been seamless and thanks for that. Listen, I'm calling regarding the Stanton injury. Someone called in earlier and kind of attributed his injury to the swing and the torque. Yeah, that was causing the injury. I'm going to coin something from Peter.
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Peter Rosenberg
Love you, man.
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Mike
Respectfully, I'm a personal trainer. 56 year old muscle guy. You don't get tennis elbow symmetrically on both sides at his age from normal baseball activities. You just don't. You get it from lifting weights, which I obviously can't fault him for. I mean, he's a beast. He looks amazing. What I have issue with is more with the Yankees. I mean, I had heard that he had had this issue at the end of last year, that's what they're reporting anyway, that he was, you know, going through this at the end of last year. Every time I had tendonitis or tennis elbow, my doctor would only say, you know, stay out of the gym, you gotta rest, you gotta rest. So my question is not with Stanton. You know, obviously I have the same mindset as him as far as, you know, working out, but what in the heck was going on in the off season? This should be over by now. Anyways, love you guys. Keep it going. You're amazing.
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Don Hahn
Well, I don't know if he hung up because I would like to ask him a question. Is that all right? Maybe it's not the torque that is the weightlifting, but are the Yankees looking at it as. That's his value. He's just really strong and swings hard and the only way he can do that and be valuable to us if he hits the gym and just becomes a monster and that if I, if I tell him not to lift weights because of the tennis elbow, then he's not going to be the same player. And at this stage of his career, when you look at him, doesn't he just look like everything that you're not supposed to do as a baseball player? Big, bulk up. The swing is just so vicious. But that's how he's able to connect and hit so many home runs. Because, look, listen, when he's off, guys, he's missing the ball like, like three feet. I don't think he's a great. He's, he's the Mike Tyson of batting. Like, if there's a science to swinging, it's like Mike Tyson. There was no science of boxing. He just beat the hell out of you. He just, he just would punch you as hard as he could. That's how I look at Stan. He just hits the ball as hard as he can. So if I scale his weightlifting back, if I get him to be more of your average swinger, then I, then I'm not getting Giancarlo Stan. So why bother that? I would love to be able to interact with the call. I'm wondering if there's something to that.
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Peter Rosenberg
Well, I just. Wouldn't it be weird, though, Don? You've been jacked this long now. You're in your early 30s, mid-30s, and you've been jacked for years. Do you really have to still keep actively lifting all the time to keep that, like, at least most of your strength? Like, I would just think he wouldn't have to be at it so often.
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Don Hahn
But when you watch him swing, doesn't it look odd to you?
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Peter Rosenberg
He's. He has an unusual swing.
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Don Hahn
Yeah. It's almost like he's. It's hard to even explain how he swings. It's all upper body. It's. It's all just the strength that he has. And that's why sometimes you can fool him. And when he's off and just not seeing the ball as well, he's just swinging as hard as he can and he misses it and he looks foolish, but when he does connect, my God, the ball sails 400ft easy. So listen, Yankees know what they're doing, and I think they know what they have in Stanton and they're just trying to make it work. They're trying to piece it together. That's what Cashman said last year. Just. It is what it is. He's at an age, right. He's got a body type that just tells you he's.
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Peter Rosenberg
He's going to break down 1-800-9193776. It's funny, Don. We've gotten. That's the phone line if you want to, want to talk about anything including the NBA All Star debacle or the four nations success. It's interesting. As excited as people seemed over the weekend, we've. But, and I guess this just speaks to human nature and that we are negative people in general. We've gotten way more calls today crushing the NBA than praising how great the game was Saturday night.
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Don Hahn
Well, we were talking for Thursday. Yeah, well, you just said there's, there's a, there's a negative draws. People, they want to complain more than praise. The game was a couple of days ago. And I'll be interested to see the lead up Thursday. Like when we do the show Thursday, what the level of interest going into the game is going to be and then what the reaction will be after the game on Friday. But I think we're kind of two days removed from the game. I think people were excited about it, but yeah, we usually skew negative. Right, because there's, there's more NBA fans than, than hockey fans. Nobody's debating that. And even though hockey had its moment is probably still more people that want to complain about why their NBA all star game was robbed from them and looks ridiculous.
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Peter Rosenberg
So yeah, no, I imagine when Thursday comes we will feel it. But I am curious to know like how much. How do you pronounce this gentleman's name here? Anthony on line one. Stomatis. Stamatis in Astoria. How you doing, friend? Yeah.
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Tony
What up, Pete? How you doing, bro?
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Peter Rosenberg
I'm good, man. How are you?
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Tony
Fantastic guys. Pleasure to be on the air. So I'm calling to just basically say how the NHL got it so right and the NBA got it so wrong. I mean it was a weekend that I was looking forward to. I'm a big fan of both. But that hockey game was everything that you hope for in hockey, if you're a hockey fan. It's basically. It could not have been better. You know, the gloves dropped. Not was it nine seconds, three fights. You know, I'm an old school guy. I love that stuff. And you know, the fact it was brothers made it even better everything about it than the game itself being a two to one classic. I mean you could not ask for anything more from the four nations concept, right? Then you fast forward to the NBA just a disaster. It was nothing worth watching. It was boring. It was. You know, I don't even know what else to say. So here's my suggestion. I think that basically Speaking when I think that your environment kind of controls it as well, I know it's a little far fetched, but when you watch these games in Europe, right. I'm not going to pick anywhere in particular. I'm just going to think of Serbia off the top of my head because I know that Yogic is from there. But if you see these clips from these countries, their basketball games, it's unparalleled. The crowd, the crowd noise, the chanting, the cheering, the screaming, it's in cohesion. It's incredible. And Pete, you know, because you're a wrestling fan, like when they go out, when they go overseas, these crowds are something that you just are not used to seeing here, you know, And I think there's something to be said for that. And maybe they should consider just doing the United States versus Europe again, you know, whatever, USA versus World, and maybe do it over there. Because if the one thing we've seen, the Canadian atmosphere was amazing the other night, even though the United States won. And I'm just kind of thinking along those lines and I was kind of curious as to what your opinion is on there.
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Peter Rosenberg
My first thought that I had and Stamatis, thanks for the call. The first thought that I had the other day when we started talking about the possibility of some sort of thing like this for the U.S. i mean, for the NBA. For me, Don, the first thought was, how could we get it overseas? That if you try to do a new format for the NBA where you come up with some cool concept and it's different nations all being represented, but you put the game in Philadelphia or New York or Houston, I think it's still going to feel like All Star Weekend. I think the way to start it off, Don, in a way that would truly jump like out of like the television and you immediately would go, oh my God, this is dope. Put it someplace that's never dreamed of getting an All Star Weekend. If you do that, the visual and the point that he made that Stomatis made about wrestling is a good one. They put these wrestling pay per views in countries that have never gotten them before. And all of a sudden, Don, a card that if it had been in Cleveland, would have been a fine show. You end up watching the show and being blown away as a fan just by seeing the hype of the fans there. I do think that the, the NBA, whether they change format or not, could really benefit from getting out of the US for All Star Weekend. I really do.
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Don Hahn
I have a retort coming up.
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Peter Rosenberg
You do?
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Don Hahn
Yeah.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, boy. And we got a couple lines open at 1-800-919-3776. President's Day Monday. Peter and Don taking you till 7:00 on 880 New York.
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Peter Rosenberg
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- [39:29]
Peter Rosenberg
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- [39:38]
Peter Rosenberg
Phone lines open at 1-800-919-3776. Gonna have a few more days, no NBA action. Picking back up what Thursday and then. Dom, when does the NHL get going again?
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Don Hahn
Saturday. It's quite a break, which is interesting. Because the championship game is Thursday in Boston. So there's gonna be a few teams that are gonna have to, you know, get on, get on a plane Friday morning and go right to their venue for their next game. So it's pretty. So I'm not sure why it was Thursday and not Wednesday. Maybe there's something on ABC and maybe Wednesday's programming is not something that ABC wanted to get out of. And Thursday's a little lighter, I'm not sure, but I thought they'd have a little bit more of a buffer. But the Rangers will be in Buffalo on Saturday for a 5:30 face off. Nancy's birthday, by the way, so.
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Peter Rosenberg
Oh, what a dream celebration for her.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, it's. I gotta. It's been really good couple of weekends here being free. But the Rangers have a 5:30 game on Saturday and then they got a 1:00.
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Peter Rosenberg
Are you on? Are you on pre or post?
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Don Hahn
Pre and post. Yeah, for both. My next game's 28 February against Toronto. Then I. Then I get a bunch in March, which I'm excited about because it's. The playoffs are on, man. The Rangers have 27 games left when we come back and it is going to be on. Now, the thing about moving the All Star Game to a European city, let's not forget the corporations that get involved in this. I was told a long time ago by the NHL, when I said, why don't I just give up the All Star Game? He's like, no, the NHL All Star Game is a chance for them to schmooze clients, come to the arena, go watch a game. We're gonna go to that particular city and wine and dine you. There's a lot of people in the building that are corporate sponsors, people that work in the league. Like I don't know the percentage in the NBA, but the 19,000 people were at that game on Sunday. I wouldn't doubt that you were talking. Maybe 6 or 7,000 are there because they got comps, corporate sponsors, friends of friends. Like so really, how many actual NBA fans are in the building? Are they willing to sacrifice that so you can actually get some real fans in the building? If they went to someplace like Madrid or Munich or something like that. Not right.
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Peter Rosenberg
Because immediately you're losing a lot of the corporate people who are just not going to do it. Even though it'd be awesome.
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Don Hahn
It's like a Super Bowl. Like the building holds 80,000 people. Like how many are truly rooting for the two teams that are playing in that building? Right like 70%, 60%. So it was kind of the same for All Star Games.
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Peter Rosenberg
Yeah, it would probably be a big corporate hit. Although I do think in the long term it could be a great situation. And sometimes I think it is about seeing the forest through the trees. Let's go to Tony in the car who's got an idea of how to freshen things up. What's up, Tony?
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I
Hey, how you doing, Peter, Don, how are you, man?
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Don Hahn
What's up, buddy?
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I
Just want you know, I've been listening to you guys for so long. Since early 2000, Peter. Since when? You used to come on before Baba Bobby Condors and Java on Sunday night or Saturday night? Sunday night.
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Peter Rosenberg
Sunday night. I'm still there, buddy. I'm still there at midnight. Thank you, man.
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I
And congratulations. Becoming a dad, man. Real special thing. Thank you, man. Anyway, so with the NBA, they can't just get rid of it, obviously, you know what I mean? Because that's how the team celebrates. It's, you know, it's positivity, prosperity, whatever going on. So I think what they should do is to use several different formats. One, I think they could take from Ice Cube, right, The three and three basketball. Maybe four guys on each team. So you have somebody coming off the bench and. But they'll be playing two games at the same time because you're only using half a court, right? The next time it could be a European put together some of the best European players. The next time it could be all the players that didn't make the All Star. Like how everybody was saying Trae Young should have made it, even though he made it. But all those players that didn't make the team, maybe they could put together a team to play the All Stars. And maybe they could go as far as finding a street ball team. You know, they would have to do their homework to find out. Good quality guys, but just different format. So you, the fan, have something different to look out for every year. And I think it would make those guys, the All Star guys, play harder because they don't want to get embarrassed and loot.
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Peter Rosenberg
So, Tony, I. I think you're on to some things, but I also think you're doing the same thing that we just talked about, which is coming up with ways to try to trick people into caring. Now, I have thought for a while that the three point Shootout and the dunk contest could absolutely benefit. And Don, I don't remember if you agree with me or not. I think both the three point Shootout and the dunk contest could absolutely benefit from mixing in people from different places. Like I. To me, the idea of, you know, Dirk Nowitzki being in the three point shootout at 50 years old, that's fun. Like I have no issue with that. And I think things like that could be spicy. A great dunker who's retired from the league but still has ups, that could be fun. I don't know that I feel that way when it comes to the actual All Star Game, which is supposed to be the best players in this league on display. I think you'd be trying too hard to mix in people who aren't even in the league. Being in the All Star Game, Don.
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Don Hahn
I think it's a lot easier to fix the skills. But then you, you end up having what you had Saturday where you're coming up with things that the NHL did the same thing too with obstacle courses. It just looks stupid. Get somebody to care about the three point. Like you said, if you get, if you. For some reason, obviously Larry Bird's too old, but let's say this was a couple of years after he retired. Get him to participate. Caitlin Clark, get her involved. I think that kind of drums up interest. But as far as the game, I just think it is what it is. The best idea I've heard today. Go back east west, go back to old school and just hope the players care enough. Maybe somebody will score 200 points, I don't know. But I, I've enjoyed today. I really love the fact that our listeners and our family care enough about this that they want to come up with ideas. But honestly I've not heard one idea that does anything for me.
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Peter Rosenberg
Jacob.
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Don Hahn
Not even close.
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Peter Rosenberg
Jacob, when do they have non All Stars in the All Star Game?
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Stamatis
So they used to do like the.
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Don Hahn
Old Timers Day, which was basically like, I guess the. What was like the game before that replaced. I guess the celebrity game replaced this, which was all the old timers would just show up.
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Peter Rosenberg
But that's not in the All Star Game.
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Don Hahn
It's not.
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Peter Rosenberg
That was its own game.
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Don Hahn
Yeah, that was its own game. But I mean that's kind of part of what the guy was talking about. Like All Stars are guys that's not in the league anymore. That's what essentially what it did to highlight some players that we may not know or like the younger generation may not know.
- [47:06]
Peter Rosenberg
I mean it's a cute to me. Something like that again. Sure. Do it on Friday, do it on Saturday, no problem. But when we get to Sunday, this, this only change. Listen, we're all coming up with a million different things The NBA needs one or two superstars to say, I care and I'm going hard. And if you don't go hard, like if John Morant or whoever, what we keep putting on him, if Wemby turns out to be that guy that when he shows up on our All Star Game, he's Kobe Bryant, he's Michael Jordan, he's dunking in your face and yelling at you. He's Sean Taylor destroying a punter in a Pro bowl game. Don, to me, that's the only thing.
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Don Hahn
That fixes this, right? But, but also the deeper thing that I think nobody want to wants to really get into is what Draymond is saying. The All Stars broken because the game needs to be fixed. You know, we're talking about how much do they really care every night in the NBA regular season wise. Now you want them to care about an exhibition game. So how do we get them to care in December instead of coming up with a silly in season tournament to get them to care about games in the beginning of the season? You know, you got half the half the league's trying to tank. The other half doesn't care whether they finish first or eighth. So isn't this obvious that the All Star Game is broken and people don't care because are they going to care about the first game coming back from the All Star game? Did they care about the last game that they played before they went to the all game? So how, how deep is this problem? Peter, thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man.
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Peter Rosenberg
I just want to know.
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Don Hahn
It's good.
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Stamatis
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Don Hahn
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Stamatis
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