Don Hahn (1:47)

Yeah, the 515 out of Newark.

Peter Rosenberg (1:55)

All right, we're all set. Apparently they could. Apparently the Devils concur. It's time to talk Matt Nagy, who spent the last three years as the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs and of course before that head coach. Not so successfully in Chicago, but not the most talented team there ever. And now he's enlisted by Harbaugh to run this Jackson Dart offense in New York. Curious for people's thoughts. We'll get started guys. Let's see what Gilberto in the truck has to say about the hiring of Matt Nagy. What do you got, bud?

Caller/Listener (2:26)

What's up guys? Peter Hahn, Don. First off, I wanna, I don't wanna, you know, veer off But I wanna apologize to you, Peter, and to Han and to Don, okay? For the other day, two weeks ago, before the storm, that Friday of the storm, I was bored out of my head. I was stuck in traffic and I wanted to hear more sports. And you guys were talking about an impending storm that really came down. You guys did an outstanding job. Thumbs up. You notified everybody. You stood on it. You prepared your listeners. And I just want to tell you I'm sorry I acted like a schmuck.

Peter Rosenberg (3:07)

It happens.

Caller/Listener (3:08)

We all should be nominated. No, no, listen, hon. I should be nominated for that guy on Thursday, okay? And just one little naggy issue, okay? Don, you're a connoisseur of information in every sport. So are you, Han. And Peter, you don't like behind either, and I value your opinion, but come on, man. Nagg. Come on, Don. Maggie, what is. Let me know your thoughts. Man, they suck.

Alan Hahn (3:35)

Listen, he's a failed head coach. So what? He's not the head coach of the giants. He's their O.C. and you saw. Listen, did Trubisky do anything in Buffalo? Has he done anything in his career that was a bad pick? He didn't pick him in Chicago. He got what he could out of Justin Fields, won a Super bowl in Kansas City. I know that's Andy Reid's team and all that, but. And from what we see is that Andy Reid called, the Giants, recommended Nagy to Harbaugh. So, listen, I'm willing to see. Is it sexy? No. Is it guaranteed to work?

Peter Rosenberg (4:10)

No.

Alan Hahn (4:10)

But I think people look at this as always, a failed head coach. Most coordinators are failed head coaches or soon to be failed head coaches. That's why they're coordinators. They're either too young to be a head coach yet and then they become a head coach and fail, or they.

Peter Rosenberg (4:24)

Failed as head coach and go back.

Alan Hahn (4:25)

To being an oc. So I'm not going to look at him as his failure as a head coach in Chicago and say, this is a bad hire for the Giants. And if you have faith in Harbaugh, why wouldn't you have faith at his.

Don Hahn (4:36)

Selection and Andy Reid? Do you believe Andy Reid surrounds himself.

Alan Hahn (4:41)

With terrible coaches and Andy Reid's not sabotaging the Giants? Andy Reid's at the stage of his career now where he wants to do good things for good people. He's got a relationship with John Harbaugh. He's not gonna steer him wrong. Now, does that guarantee it's going to work? No. But what is there to hate other than it just doesn't jump off the page.

Don Hahn (5:00)

I don't know. Well, again, it's. At least it's experience. It's not somebody you've never heard of. Right. It's not somebody that hasn't done the job before. I mean the jets certainly cornered the market on that. How'd that look, Let me.

Alan Hahn (5:15)

In all honesty, let me ask you. We all pay attention to Kansas City. How could you not? They're on national television basically every week. Did they fail offensively this year because they're OC or did they fail because they didn't have a ton of talent, they had an aging tight end, they had any great wide receivers. And, and it looked like they were in a downward spiral, which happens to Dynasty.

Don Hahn (5:37)

And then, and then Mahomes got hurt.

Alan Hahn (5:40)

Right.

Don Hahn (5:40)

So yeah, I agree. Look again. But it's because you're. Look, you got the headline, the head coach, the CEO. You got him now again the defensive coordinator. It's somebody that he's worked with, that he trusts, that he knows. Is it a. Was that a big headline? You want an all star coaching staff, I understand, but don't you trust this guy? This is the coach you wanted. You were celebrating this guy now five minutes into his tenure because he didn't hire somebody that you felt like was the best guy available, that now all of a sudden it's like up. No. This terrible hire. Really you know more than John Harbaugh. Step forward if you are, if you're the guy that knows more than John Harbaugh, please call and tell me why you know more than him.

Alan Hahn (6:28)

And, and also, and I haven't heard yet, but the opinion that I value even more than anybody is what did Jackson dart thing.

Don Hahn (6:35)

Yeah. That matters.

Alan Hahn (6:38)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (6:38)

And we probably won't find out, but that is a clearly important piece here. I guess we'll, I guess we'll be able to gauge halfway through the season how he's vibing well.

Alan Hahn (6:48)

And, but as far as how he feels about it, you got to feel pretty good about it. I don't think Harbaugh is going to hire an offensive coordinator that his quarterback doesn't want. Now he might be indifferent to it, don't know a lot about it and open minded about it. But you know, I as. Even though he hasn't accomplished anything in the NFL, it doesn't help the Giants if they went out and hired an OC that doesn't work well with their future quarterback. Right. So I would think that they're going to get along just fine. Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (7:16)

I mean no matter how you Cut it. Things this year were not what you dream about for the Chiefs.

Alan Hahn (7:22)

And, and listen, Charlie Weiss, they're still the Chiefs. Now, Charlie Weiss Jr. Would have been sexy, right, because of who his dad is and where he came from, Mississippi, ole miss and LSU. But he wasn't going to leave LSU.

Don Hahn (7:33)

Apparently, he wasn't five minutes.

Alan Hahn (7:35)

And he's 32 years old, so he kind of fits into what get the fans excited, Peter. But I don't think that was a doable because of the whole, you know, going with Lane Kiffin to LSU and no pro experience at all. So as exciting as that would be because of the lineage and all that, I mean, it's just as scary because he's never done it on the professional level.

Don Hahn (8:00)

Again, we're talking about this right now. Out of the three of us, level of concern, one to ten.

Alan Hahn (8:10)

One.

Peter Rosenberg (8:11)

Yeah. I don't have any concern about it.

Don Hahn (8:13)

Right. Like, so, like anybody else that wants to turn this into something, you're just basically manufacturing your anger, not.

Alan Hahn (8:21)

Listen, Kingsbury would have been sexier and fans probably would have gotten excited. Does that necessarily mean it would have been the better hire?

Don Hahn (8:34)

No, we don't know that it would have.

Peter Rosenberg (8:36)

It would have excited people more, but it wouldn't have meant anything. It's just none of us get this stuff.

Don Hahn (8:41)

The truth is, we're going to debate coaches. We must be bored. Coaching staff. We're bored if we're debating coaching staff.

Alan Hahn (8:48)

Well, that's the thing. Full disclosure, Right. There's not a lot going on today. And we were talking about an open. And we're like, how about, like, are we really going to open like O.C. it's like, no, they got the Big Kahuna. They got John Harbaugh. Okay. Have faith that he's going to have the right guy. If, if they, if they hired Nagy over Harbaugh, then I can understand the concern.

Don Hahn (9:10)

That's different.

Alan Hahn (9:12)

But his failings as a head coach in Chicago doesn't, doesn't matter to me when he's going to be the oc. There's plenty of failed head coaches.

Don Hahn (9:21)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (9:21)

That were outstanding defensive and offensive coordinators and vice versa.

Don Hahn (9:26)

Now, let's, let's, let's. Before we get back to calls, let's just. Because reset some of the NBA trade deadline stuff because it has been a pretty busy day today and we're two days out now. Yeah. And we still have two more days, but teams are starting to make some moves here and there's some things that just, you know, get my spidey. Senses are tingling. Right. So Minnesota, the Timberwolves, who are said to be hot and heavy for Giannis, they made a very interesting move. Mike Conley, who's a veteran guard on a big expiring contract, they moved him, got nothing back, so opened up a roster spot and some salary cap space, moving him in a three team deal with the Pistons and the Chicago Bulls, who have been very busy today. The pieces there look it up, but the one that matters the most is the fact that Conley left Minnesota and it opens up a roster spot and some more wiggle room under the salary cap or within the salary cap, which is why keep an eye on Minnesota as they continue to try to pursue Giannis. Boston. I'm sorry, not Boston. Chicago has been busy. They also moved Nikola Vucevic, the big lumbering center who's still a really good player. The Celtics picked him up. What does that mean? Boston not selling. Boston buying. Now, Vucevich is an expiring contract, but they're getting another big man there. Did that tell you they're right there with the Knicks right now in second place in the East. Boston's kind of telling you we're not going anywhere. So we're trying to get some pieces to help us continue and put a scare into some of the teams in the east, especially with Jayson Tatum kind of hanging out there, although I still don't think he's gonna play. And then watch this one. Now, Wendy's been pushing this for a while now, the last day, and he keeps talking about it today. And it's the fact that the Cavs know that ain't it. What they have, it ain't it. And one of the pieces that they want to move is Darius Garland, who's had injuries. He's constantly hurt, but listen to the name that they might make a trade for using Garland, James Harden, who told the Clippers he wants to be traded. Why? Because the Clippers are trying to be careful with contracts. He's not due an extension, but he's eligible for one in the off season and they've already kind of made it clear we're not doing that. So James wants money and so he now he wants out. And there's going to be a team that's always going to try to make make it better. So watch the Cavs and what they might be doing over the next couple of days, but that's one certainly to keep an eye on. So a lot of this stuff is starting to percolate. The warriors are still trying to get Giannis Draymond Green could be dangled. Jaren Jackson Jr. The center. He was traded to Utah. Knicks were interested in him, but again, too rich for their blood with the contract. Knicks are still trying to do smaller things. We shall see. But it's been starting to percolate, trade deadline stuff in the NBA. And the one thing I would say remind everybody, watch Minnesota right now, because while we all still believe Giannis likely the easier trade is this summer. Minnesota might not want to wait because they don't want competition for him. They might be ready to go all in right now.

Peter Rosenberg (12:31)

Let's keep this convo going, shall we?

Don Hahn (12:33)

Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (12:33)

Let's go to Rob in Florida, who wants to do some Knicks talk. What's up, Rob?

Don Hahn (12:38)

Hello.

Caller/Listener (12:38)

What's up? I think the Knicks should not go after Giannis, because when the east is wide open, you get Giannis. You're taking away this year. And how do you know that next year, next couple years, if you have Giannis, the East will get better. So now you've lost your chance of going to the finals this year and even in future years, get players like Najee Marshall, Od Alvarado, Donnie DiVicenzo, lesser players, that's all you need.

Don Hahn (13:05)

You.

Caller/Listener (13:06)

You need to fill out your bench. Why would you give up Cat and McBride and Bridges? Go up to lesser players and then you have a shot to win. Now your windows longer to win. That's what you got to do. Forget Giannis. We don't need him. We need players of Dante DiVincenzo, Najee Marshall, Otto plays of that caliber. That's what we need.

Don Hahn (13:28)

All right, Rob.

Peter Rosenberg (13:29)

Thank you.

Alan Hahn (13:29)

Well, I'm not. I'm not throwing Giannis away, but I just don't think the timing is right because I think this team's got a chance to make a run, because I do agree with you. You want to strike while the iron's hot. The Eastern Conference is wide open. I think this team is good enough to compete, to get to a final, and who knows what happens? But during the off season, you may assess and go, you know, I think we need a little extra, and I think we can get Giannis. I'm not throwing that opportunity away, guys, but I just think right now this team deserves a shot without disrupting it. I don't need him right now, but they may eventually need him.

Don Hahn (14:02)

Yeah, and. But you know what? They do deserve also, Don, as you're saying, they deserve some pieces to upgrade the bench.

Alan Hahn (14:11)

Oh, I'm the one telling them not.

Don Hahn (14:13)

To make it right like that's. The thing I think they deserve. Well, I think I'm using your words, though. Like, I think they've earned that more than they've earned. Yeah. Really shaking up the roster and bringing in a megastar who. Him and Brunson will have to figure it out pretty quickly. Right. Like, they. I think that's something. You look in that room, they've won six in a row. They're trying to make it seven tonight. Kind of getting the. Getting the turbulent ride that they had for 11 games behind them, they're steady again, and it's like, you know what? We want to not only believe in you, but not disrupting it. We still feel like we got to make some moves to. To upgrade so we have a deeper bench and we can get more out of this team.

Alan Hahn (14:53)

I think there are some deals you make because your team's not good enough to win, and there's some deals you make because you believe they are good enough to win.

Peter Rosenberg (15:01)

Right.

Alan Hahn (15:01)

And I think what you're asking for is the latter little maintenance moves because you think this team can make a run, not a big gargantuan move because you think they can't.

Peter Rosenberg (15:12)

Let's go back to the people. Let's go to Derek in Washington Heights. Derek, what's up, man?

Caller/Listener (15:17)

Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. What's up, number? Number one. Thanks, Peter, for the shout out. Last time I called, you said I was funny, and I swear to God, I ate that apple for, like, four days straight.

Peter Rosenberg (15:32)

You know what? Rock with it. Enjoy it.

Caller/Listener (15:35)

Dude, it was the best. I went on Spotify, I got, like, the transcript. I downloaded it, I sent it to my friend.

Don Hahn (15:45)

See, and for you was a passing comment. For him, it changes.

Peter Rosenberg (15:48)

What did you say? What did you say that was so funny? Remind me.

Caller/Listener (15:52)

I don't even know, dude. I was on one. I don't even know, bro. I have no idea. Dawn early, hbd, Pal. I'll say that. You know, HPD has a different meaning when you put pal on the end of it, too.

Peter Rosenberg (16:09)

Pal is like a middle finger. Yeah. You might as well just give someone the middle, right?

Don Hahn (16:13)

You think it is? Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (16:14)

Hpd, pal. Yeah, it's like.

Don Hahn (16:17)

Yeah, it's like. It's.

Peter Rosenberg (16:18)

It's like calling someone boss. It's like when your cab driver calls you boss. You know what I mean? It means nothing.

Sponsor/Advertisement Voice (16:23)

Chief.

Don Hahn (16:23)

Yeah. Chief is worse.

Caller/Listener (16:26)

Chief is worse. So I just want to say a little bit about the Knicks. I mean, I completely agree with Don's analogy of the hot girl at the dance. The pretty girl dance. I don't know what we're even thinking about. And any Knicks fan that would think otherwise I think is just kind of stuck in this paradigm of being an old Knicks fan where we're just like, guys, we have the.

Don Hahn (16:54)

The goods.

Caller/Listener (16:54)

Like, we're Sydney Sweeney. Like, we can. Wow, we can just sit here and let it come to us, man. Like, we don't. We don't need to be desperate. I mean, desperation is not an attractive fragrance, you know, to Alan's point, because, Alan, you're the expert, and I will always defer to you. I am no Nick's expert by any stretch. Chemistry, man. Like, that's a word that we really have to keep in the back of our minds is chemistry. We have it. Let's keep it. And, you know, I mean, I. I loved your little. Not little. Not to demean that, but I love the thing about Draymond Green, you know, that is a person who I would say would either could significantly add to our chemistry. A lot like Charles Oakley kind of scenario. But even if he went. And I know that you guys talk about, you know, it's complicated, but.

Alan Hahn (18:08)

It was so good. Just.

Don Hahn (18:09)

He's gonna have to own this one now that he's not gonna eat this apple for three days.

Alan Hahn (18:14)

Well, I. I love him, but, you.

Peter Rosenberg (18:16)

Know, if he's a fan of the show he was making, I think that getting played off is almost as good as the compliment.

Don Hahn (18:21)

Equally. Equally important if.

Alan Hahn (18:23)

If he takes it in the spirit.

Don Hahn (18:24)

In which it was met. I thought we were on another call. It really did feel like a second call. Yeah, well, this is. This is the Bobanj hour, so.

Alan Hahn (18:33)

Yeah, listen, it's kicking in now. Get home from work.

Don Hahn (18:37)

I love it.

Alan Hahn (18:38)

Get a little Taco Bell.

Don Hahn (18:40)

I'm learning this time that this is definitely, like, this has become a very consistent thing with this show, and I love it.

Alan Hahn (18:45)

If our. If our sales department.

Don Hahn (18:47)

Oh, please.

Alan Hahn (18:50)

We would have it. We. Our studio would be sponsored by a dispenser.

Don Hahn (18:54)

How could it not be?

Alan Hahn (18:56)

Because our audience loves weed.

Don Hahn (18:58)

Yes.

Alan Hahn (18:59)

Loves it.

Don Hahn (18:59)

Loves it.

Alan Hahn (19:00)

Loves it more than sports, probably. We should do a weed binge after the football season is over.

Don Hahn (19:06)

Tremendous.

Peter Rosenberg (19:09)

You mean the binge is just weed?

Alan Hahn (19:10)

Yeah, don't be. The NFL bench is the weed binge.

Don Hahn (19:14)

Oh, it'd be great.

Alan Hahn (19:17)

I was pointing out new dispensaries that are popping up.

Peter Rosenberg (19:22)

We are officially the show of high. Let's see. Let's see. Who's high now? Let's go to.

Alan Hahn (19:28)

Or how high?

Peter Rosenberg (19:30)

Let's play how high? Manny in New Jersey. He seems high. What's up, Manny?

Caller/Listener (19:35)

I'm definitely not high. I'm definitely not hot. Now that's not my name, by the way. Now, just in case my employer is listening.

Don Hahn (19:41)

Gotcha.

Caller/Listener (19:42)

Of course you ratted me out, Pete. So I heard earlier. Alan, I hate ads just as much as you are. Possibly more.

Don Hahn (19:51)

Dude.

Caller/Listener (19:52)

So I gave Anthony a browser where you guys. It's perfectly legal, is not illegal or anything like that. Just don't want to give them ad an ad that's for your sales department. But you guys can use it and avoid every single YouTube ads for free. You shouldn't be paying for that. You guys are given them your data already, so.

Peter Rosenberg (20:15)

Yeah, just.

Caller/Listener (20:16)

Just consider that he has it.

Don Hahn (20:18)

Okay, great. Yeah.

Caller/Listener (20:20)

And if he needs me to repeat it, you could use that. And also, I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Richard Manhattan is to your show what Kramer is to Seinfeld. And I. Wow. Anyone noticed that?

Peter Rosenberg (20:33)

Richard Manhattan.

Alan Hahn (20:34)

Hi, Richard.

Caller/Listener (20:36)

He. He is Kramer. I mean, he talks about his favorite train station. Station stop. He just comes up with these random. He basically slams the door to your show every five o'.

Don Hahn (20:47)

Clock.

Caller/Listener (20:47)

Every five o' clock hour and just said something completely. No, John Frenchie Fuqua.

Peter Rosenberg (20:54)

He's not wrong. There you go.

Caller/Listener (20:56)

Hey, that.

Don Hahn (20:57)

That.

Caller/Listener (20:57)

That's all I had. Hopefully that's helpful for you guys because I hate ads as much as you guys.

Don Hahn (21:01)

It's brutal. But that.

Alan Hahn (21:02)

That.

Don Hahn (21:02)

That would be very helpful. Thank you.

Alan Hahn (21:04)

That was nice.

Don Hahn (21:06)

Of course now if it. I end up losing all of my money. No problem.

Peter Rosenberg (21:15)

You're not gonna lose all your money. You'll be just fine.

Alan Hahn (21:18)

Now, how do you.

Peter Rosenberg (21:18)

You don't think that is Kramer a bit too complimentary for Richard? I love Richard.

Don Hahn (21:22)

Oh, no, it's very on. I think that's on brand.

Caller/Listener (21:25)

Take it off. Take it all off.

Don Hahn (21:27)

Cheap burger.

Peter Rosenberg (21:28)

Cheap burger.

Caller/Listener (21:29)

Cheap burger. No Coke, Pepsi.

Don Hahn (21:32)

Guys, I. I just came across something that if I. If I could. No, no, no. It's definitely not Teesworthy. But already, I guess. Did Anthony see it? I put in our group chat, but I'm thinking about sharing it with the world.

Alan Hahn (21:47)

You should.

Don Hahn (21:48)

So at Unh, they have a Frank the Fan Halbert fan favorite award.

Alan Hahn (21:56)

Okay.

Don Hahn (21:57)

It's a hockey team. It's the hockey team award.

Peter Rosenberg (22:00)

Okay.

Don Hahn (22:01)

And is it. Is it bad if I stop the ballot box with all of our friends voting for Zach?

Alan Hahn (22:08)

I'm sure anybody else given the vehicle would use it.

Peter Rosenberg (22:11)

But would he want that?

Don Hahn (22:13)

Yes.

Alan Hahn (22:14)

All right, well, that's your answer?

Don Hahn (22:16)

No, no one works harder than he does.

Peter Rosenberg (22:18)

But, but hold on. But you're thinking through this as a dad. If he finds out it's because you, You. You stuffed the ballot box, would he be happy or like dad?

Don Hahn (22:26)

He'd love it.

Peter Rosenberg (22:28)

You're sure?

Don Hahn (22:29)

He'd love it.

Peter Rosenberg (22:31)

All right, well then if you know the answer that confidently, I think you answer your own question.

Alan Hahn (22:35)

Done.

Don Hahn (22:35)

So I think I'm gonna share the. The link.

Peter Rosenberg (22:37)

Where do I do. But I. I saw you mention this in our group chat, but I don't see it.

Don Hahn (22:42)

You just click the link.

Peter Rosenberg (22:43)

I don't see the link.

Don Hahn (22:45)

I should be right up. Right, right above. Oh, it's an Instagram link. Wait, wait, wait. Stand by.

Alan Hahn (22:54)

I went to the Instagram story, then clicked on the link inside the story, then voted.

Don Hahn (22:58)

That's the problem. I will. I will send you.

Peter Rosenberg (23:03)

Right, but that's impossible.

Alan Hahn (23:05)

Right?

Don Hahn (23:05)

This is. This is old man. Well, he can't get on Instagram, so that's a problem. Yeah. So here you go. Ready? Ready?

Peter Rosenberg (23:11)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (23:12)

Just click. Click that once it finally goes through. There you go. Click that link. Boom.

Peter Rosenberg (23:19)

Look at this.

Don Hahn (23:20)

Let's let him. Let's let him get a dub. He needs a dub. He. He desperately needs something.

Peter Rosenberg (23:25)

He needs a win 5 Zach Hahn.

Don Hahn (23:27)

Let's go. Let's go.

Peter Rosenberg (23:29)

And it's. Hold on. Done.

Alan Hahn (23:32)

Submit. Bang.

Don Hahn (23:34)

He is. He is beloved there, despite the fact. Doesn't really play a lot well. But he's one of those, like you just. It's hard not to root for him. So, you know, what year is he? He's.

Peter Rosenberg (23:47)

He.

Don Hahn (23:48)

Well, he's a sophomore.

Alan Hahn (23:49)

Okay.

Don Hahn (23:50)

You know, but he's, you know, it's like he's. He's like Rudy. Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (23:57)

If Rudy. If Rudy's dad instead of working in the coal mine was. Was a marquee sports broadcaster. Get up every week and his life living in a mansion on Long Island. Yeah, I think it's exactly like Rudy.

Don Hahn (24:09)

Rudiger, you know, had a whole family.

Alan Hahn (24:11)

Of no motivated losers.

Peter Rosenberg (24:13)

Don, do you remember Rudy going home to his parents house and having a football stadium in the backyard?

Don Hahn (24:20)

In comparison to hockey, I'm like a nobody.

Peter Rosenberg (24:27)

That is true.

Don Hahn (24:27)

The devil's general manager son's on the team, Peter. NHL sons are on this team. Draft picks are on this team. He's Rudy in this world. He shouldn't even be there and yet fought his way all the way into the lineup.

Peter Rosenberg (24:46)

Well, don't forget that Don did after the last time we talked about Rudy, decide that Rudy's family was a family of frauds.

Alan Hahn (24:55)

They were a bit. I mean, the brother. Brother steals the girlfriend away.

Don Hahn (25:00)

Your take, Don, your take has gotten. There's people that are so mad, especially Notre Dame. People really do not like.

Peter Rosenberg (25:07)

Well, they think it's real life. Philadelphia the other day. Don Philadelphia is so deranged as a city, they not only have a fictional character on the stairs, you know, in the city when you get to the airport, it wasn't enough. They had to make a secondary fictional Rocky statue in the airport.

Alan Hahn (25:24)

Was that from Rocky 2?

Peter Rosenberg (25:26)

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Don Hahn (27:46)

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter Rosenberg (27:49)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

Don Hahn (27:51)

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

Alan Hahn (27:59)

Yeah, so many good songs by Triumph. This is one of my favorites.

Don Hahn (28:02)

Yeah, like the good fight. Yep.

Alan Hahn (28:07)

You know, I'm not gonna get on Peter Bernardo and try him, but I do enjoy Rick Emmett was the lead singer and then they're. I think they're. Because he also played guitar because it was three piece. So he was the guitar player. The bass player always had like a Toronto maple leaf jersey on.

Don Hahn (28:24)

You love that.

Alan Hahn (28:25)

Love it. Had me at hello back in the day. And now they're on tour again, the 50th anniversary tour. Which kind of makes sense because when they were doing hits in the early 80s, it was like that's 40 plus years ago. So we're getting old, brother.

Don Hahn (28:46)

I feel it.

Peter Rosenberg (28:48)

Dude, I think my friggin Internet just went out in my apartment.

Alan Hahn (28:53)

Really? Well then explain us hearing you.

Don Hahn (28:57)

Yeah, we can't see you because my.

Peter Rosenberg (28:59)

My Comrex is running off of like it's off the weed. No, my. My Comrex is running off of, you know, a hotspot.

Don Hahn (29:12)

Oh.

Peter Rosenberg (29:13)

But yeah, my. My wi fi just completely conked out.

Don Hahn (29:17)

Oh wow. So we don't get to see that.

Peter Rosenberg (29:19)

Well, yeah, but it's also. That's all. What about the fact that that's in addition to the fact that my water is out in my building right now as you speak.

Don Hahn (29:27)

Oh, this things are going well. Water and Internet, the two essentials.

Peter Rosenberg (29:32)

What's next?

Don Hahn (29:33)

Well, we don't. You don't want to know.

Peter Rosenberg (29:36)

Let's. So someone else want to choose some phone calls for us? I don't have that option.

Alan Hahn (29:42)

Well, that would probably have to be Anthony.

Don Hahn (29:44)

All right, Anthony. Dealers, dealers. Choice dealers. How much tomatoes in Astoria?

Alan Hahn (29:49)

He's been on a while.

Peter Rosenberg (29:50)

Oh, I love that.

Alan Hahn (29:51)

What's up, baby step? Don?

Caller/Listener (29:55)

Alan. Peter, how you doing?

Don Hahn (29:56)

Good, how are you?

Caller/Listener (29:58)

All righty. Alrighty. All right, so check it out. I'm calling about the Knicks. I just want your opinion on my thoughts. So I recall when Julius Randall was in trade rumors prior to the cat trade. You know, he was a multiple time All Star, he came here, made a name for himself and when the rumors were flying, people were, some were forward, some were against it, but in the end they made the move and they upgraded from town, from, Sorry, from Randall to towns.

Don Hahn (30:24)

Right.

Caller/Listener (30:24)

I feel like this is a very similar situation where we have a multiple time All Star again and, you know, you have the ability to upgrade again. To me, there's no doubt in my mind that Cat to Giannis is an upgrade.

Don Hahn (30:38)

Right.

Caller/Listener (30:39)

I think that's safe to say. So you, you know, this is where we are. It's like going from. From good to better to elite. And I think this, you know, right this moment, he's playing well and, you know, but I think that by doing this well, it's kind of changing the way people are viewing it. Like we're okay where we are, but if he gets traded somewhere else. And end of the year, Cat does what Cat does, where he kind of like, you know, he's just not the tough, you know, alpha guy that will looking for in the paint. And look, man, go back and watch game six of his finals appearance, that'll tell you what you got to know about who he is and what we need to go over the top. That's, you know, that's how I view this whole scenario.

Don Hahn (31:21)

Right.

Alan Hahn (31:22)

But it's not a question of whether get to get him and just when to get him. Is it worth blowing up this season to get him or do you roll the dice, anticipate him not getting dealt and ant dealing with this in the offseason. Are the threats real? Now? The news, Allen, that you told us about Minnesota makes it very interesting.

Don Hahn (31:42)

Yes.

Alan Hahn (31:43)

Sounds like they're going to make a run. Now, that doesn't mean they're going to get them, but it sounds like they are trying.

Don Hahn (31:48)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (31:48)

To make an offer and they've got less than 46 hours to get something done. Does that move the needle for Leon Rose?

Don Hahn (31:56)

I don't think so. I, I have this strange feeling that they are prepared to lose him at the deadline. I don't think they'd be as passive in the summer if they don't at least reach the NBA Finals. They might have a different approach in the summer. I'm just saying I am based this off of just speculation. I don't have any inside information, but I just, I don't. I think if he goes at the deadline, they, they will live with that.

Alan Hahn (32:33)

Well, and Giannis has to be careful here too. Okay. He wants to be a Nick and we talk about how it benefits the Knicks to wait till the off season, and if he wants to be a Knick, just wait till the off season. But I guess the negative for Giannis, and maybe this was. Gets him a little nervous, is what if the Knicks make a run and say, beat Oklahoma City or the spurs or the spurs or the Nuggets or whatever.

Don Hahn (33:01)

Right.

Alan Hahn (33:02)

Well, they're not going to be trading for you, and now you missed your chance. Like, so I'm wondering, is he thinking that? Or, hey, they lose to Oklahoma City, but they lose in six games. And, like, you know what? I think there's a way we can still do this and not have to bring in Giannis. So there's risks being taken all over the place, but I think the common denominator here is that they're going to need them in the off season. We'll evaluate this run and we'll say, yeah, we could still use Giannis.

Don Hahn (33:38)

Yeah, I think that's always been the plan.

Alan Hahn (33:41)

Yeah.

Don Hahn (33:41)

Like, I really do.

Alan Hahn (33:43)

So why stray because of Pat Riley, or why stray because, oh, Minnesota just freed up cap space. Well, also.

Don Hahn (33:50)

But what if you just can't make a deal right now? Like, what if. Because you're going to need a third or fourth team, and that's complicated. And there might be third or fourth teams that are like, we don't want to do that right now.

Alan Hahn (34:00)

And when I hear the fans say, we got to do this because there'll be another losing out on a star. It's not losing out on a star if you're the one that's says, no, we're good. This isn't being snubbed by the superstar.

Don Hahn (34:12)

Remember, they said no already once they were there. Giannis wouldn't, you know, like, from what I understand, there was, like, again, Giannis could have just told the Bucks, I want to be traded, and that's where I want to go. And, you know, he didn't want to be the bad guy. And there's a lot of things that we've heard from that August situation where, you know, they talked. And to me, once you're talking, that means that something could happen. Nothing happened. And so the opportunity was there, and Giannis and the Knicks, neither one of them could force it to happen, which tells me that there was a no there somewhere from somebody. And so if you did it once, right?

Alan Hahn (34:55)

And fans got to realize, this isn't the same old Knicks. This isn't the desperate Knicks.

Don Hahn (35:01)

Well, by the way, you have a star. His name is Jalen Brunson, the big star. He's One of the best players in the league.

Alan Hahn (35:06)

And you have a team that went to the, to the, the third round last year.

Don Hahn (35:11)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (35:12)

And a team that I think you got to feel really good about getting to the finals this year. Yes. So this isn't, you know, some seven seed hovering around 500, not going anywhere.

Peter Rosenberg (35:27)

It's hard, Don. People are used to being in love with their own sadness. They don't know how to carry. Listen, you know what it is? You've been one person for your whole life and then you got, you know, you got yourself. You saw the commercial with Serena Williams and you got yourself on Tirzepatide. Whichever your choice was, you know, and you're taking the shot. And now you look, you're the best weight you've been since high school. You're no longer desperate for whoever walks in the door. It takes time to get used to it, Don. So they think they got to go chase him, but this isn't a chase situation. Look around. Meanwhile, you're on Ozempic. You're looking great. You know, some other teams here got fat. Pacers, look horrible, really let themselves go. Celtics, you're not sure. They might be a donut away at.

Alan Hahn (36:18)

Any moment, but they could also swing the other way.

Don Hahn (36:21)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (36:22)

Smoking hot again, right?

Don Hahn (36:23)

Right. Well, that's the weird part about the Celtic.

Peter Rosenberg (36:27)

You can't, you can't tell.

Don Hahn (36:28)

They might take Ozempic and Donut away.

Alan Hahn (36:32)

From me being morbidly obese. And they're Ozempic shot away from being in the file.

Don Hahn (36:41)

By the way, this has been a show. I, I just. Can I say, this has been a. This has been a show.

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Alan Hahn (37:39)

Peter could be at times with the commanders, apparently it has never gotten to the level Bart has been with the Pistons. Now maybe that's because the Giants and their commanders really haven't been a rivalry in the time that Peter's been here because you got the Knicks and the Pistons, but apparently Bart's just been a problem with the Pistons on that show.

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Well, and I don't, I don't do the big like yes, I care and it annoys people because I care so much, much, but I'm not a big like rah rah.

Alan Hahn (38:07)

Well, you're not flexing. You just like talking about them.

Don Hahn (38:11)

Bar also enjoys being the heel. He knows it'll piss off Knicks fans and he, he's, he's doing it for, for, for the right reasons, you know. And look, they're in first place. What do you if there's ever a time to cross, this would be the time, right?

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Right?

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Yeah. Not when you get to the playoffs.

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Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

Peter Rosenberg (41:46)

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

Don Hahn (41:47)

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

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That is on the show. Yes.

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Alan Hahn (43:17)

I would, I, you know. No, no offense to the sponsor, but I think I would skip the read if we like literally lost him during the break.

Peter Rosenberg (43:23)

Yeah, no, I probably wouldn't hit a FanDuel and say, by the way, Alan's dead. Let's go. Speaking of betting, let's go to Joe and Rockland. What's up, Joe?

Caller/Listener (43:34)

Hi, guys. Great show. I just wanted to get your feel on Walker against Stevenson for Yards Russian. What you think? And Peter, I'm a wrestling fan over 40 years. I took my grandson to Barkley's first Raw, his first wrestler.

Peter Rosenberg (43:54)

Wow.

Alan Hahn (43:55)

How old?

Peter Rosenberg (43:56)

How old?

Alan Hahn (43:58)

Oh, nice. Perfect age.

Peter Rosenberg (43:59)

Did he love it?

Caller/Listener (44:01)

Oh, he loved it, man. He loved it. He's just getting into it. He loved it.

Peter Rosenberg (44:05)

Oh, that's so fun.

Caller/Listener (44:08)

But like I said, have you been.

Alan Hahn (44:10)

Saying Walker in your reeds?

Don Hahn (44:11)

Peter?

Alan Hahn (44:12)

That's right.

Peter Rosenberg (44:13)

That was the one in the Reefs, so.

Caller/Listener (44:15)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. And one other thing I wanted to ask you. You guys aware that next year's super bowl is on Valentine's Day?

Alan Hahn (44:24)

Yes, we're going to talk about that during Ennis. I don't know what you do about. It's a Sunday, but.

Peter Rosenberg (44:32)

I know what you do. I know what you do. You make lots of dumb commercials about it. Listen, that's what's going to be done. It's going to be unbearable.

Alan Hahn (44:39)

I, I would think now, it's been a long time since, you know, Valentine's Day. It's been that big of a deal. But when you go out to Saturday night anyway rather than the Sunday night. If Valentine's Day fell on a Sunday.

Peter Rosenberg (44:56)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Alan Hahn (44:56)

You would probably go out Saturday night anyway. So I don't know why this would be that big of a deal because who would rather go? Especially if you got kids and you got work the next day. Why would you want to go out on a Sunday night you probably. Saturday would probably be the bigger night to go out anyway.

Peter Rosenberg (45:10)

Yeah, I don't think it's that big a deal. I mean, you know, listen, there's some people who take it Uber seriously. I would think the average person is going to be just fine, man. By the way, when you look at, when you look for prop bets, Don, right, And you start to like, look through the Seahawks, Patriots depth charts. I'm sorry, it's going to age like fine wine for me, Don, that we are going to look at these teams and go, who the hell was playing in the Super Bowl? Like really go through, go through their depth charts and just tell me. I'm not saying there aren't any names, you know, or really good players, but like, this is, it's, it's very unique for what we've had recently to see so few big names up and down at the big positions.

Alan Hahn (45:58)

Well, we are right now in that transition stage where we went from the dynasty of New England and Kansas City where every year was a big time quarterback, big time team. Now we've got the big time teams because Seattle and New England have gone to the super bowl recently. But we're in the transition with the big name quarterbacks. Right? So Drake may, may turn out to be the next great quarterback and we'll look at him from this super bowl the way we looked at Tom Brady in his first Super Bowl. But right now he's not a big name. You know, Sam Darnold's a big name here, but around, around the country he's not a big. Look at all the teams he's been on in the last couple of years. He's on his what like was like five teams with the Jets, Carolina, San Francisco, for a cup of coffee, Minnesota and now he's in Seattle, you know, and, and all the big names are, are gone and retired. So we're in that transition. Eventually these might be the big names. But.

Peter Rosenberg (46:54)

Right now though I, but you never know. It's a toss up. Like it's going to be interesting to look back and obviously there are a couple names that are on the back nine, right. Your Cooper cups, etc. Who names you know, but they're not names you know, but not for, you know, you don't know.

Alan Hahn (47:09)

Cooper cup as a, as a Seahawk.

Peter Rosenberg (47:11)

That could be trivia. If they don't win the Super Bowl. Oh, you could forget right now. If they win the super bowl then you remember. Nice piece of trivia. One for both.

Alan Hahn (47:20)

No, you don't know. Tay Diggs, Stefan Diggs.

Peter Rosenberg (47:24)

Well, that's a great point as a Patriot, you know, and. And it's.

Alan Hahn (47:29)

It's.

Peter Rosenberg (47:29)

It's so interesting because when Stefan Diggs had that. That off season where he was getting talked about for basically all the wrong reasons, and then he ends up, you know, the last couple years haven't exactly been, you know, draped in glory for Stefon Diggs.

Alan Hahn (47:46)

No.

Peter Rosenberg (47:46)

And it ended up making it to my morning show because he starts dating Cardi B. So I'm like, telling, you know, Laura Styles about who Stefon Diggs is, and I'm basically describing him as a guy who's really talented, who kind of flamed out, like.

Alan Hahn (47:59)

Yeah, it seemed.

Peter Rosenberg (48:00)

It seemed like he was the dude. And then he couldn't get along with Josh Allen, and now he's kind of bouncing around his way at the end.

Alan Hahn (48:08)

Of his career, and he might get the ring that Josh Allen ever gets.

Peter Rosenberg (48:12)

Isn't that crazy? Like, you'd say there's a pretty good don. I may throw a bet down. I could absolutely see if the Patriots win the Super Bowl. A Stefon Diggs touchdown. The super bowl could absolutely see it.

Alan Hahn (48:24)

Yeah.

Caller/Listener (48:25)

So Buffalo Bills went out and got who?

Alan Hahn (48:27)

Tay Diggs.

Caller/Listener (48:29)

Stefan Diggs. Because everybody.

Don Hahn (48:31)

And you can use your 30% profit.

Alan Hahn (48:32)

Boost on that, Peter. There you go. Bang.

Peter Rosenberg (48:37)

Yeah, I may. Maybe I'll go both. That'll be the fun one for me to root for. Maybe I go Darnold over on yard so I can root for Sam and a Digs score.

Alan Hahn (48:45)

Well, hopefully you did that one on Monday, because that was Monday's profit boost.

Peter Rosenberg (48:48)

Oh, see, you're so great. Good. You're so good. Now, listen, the profit boost, of course, are one particular day, but Anthony, don't forget, you can still go to FanDuel this weekend and bet whatever prop bets you want.

Don Hahn (48:59)

Absolutely. I'm sure they'll have some deal on Sunday. That's all.

Peter Rosenberg (49:01)

They're all there for you. It's all on the table, like you dream about. Let's take a quick call real quick before we get to a big Anthony Pusick enn. Let's go to Brit New Jersey. Hey, Brit.

Caller/Listener (49:14)

What's going on, guys?

Alan Hahn (49:16)

How are you?

Peter Rosenberg (49:16)

Hey, Brad.

Don Hahn (49:17)

I'm good.

Caller/Listener (49:18)

I had to call because you guys were Talking about the 5 o' clock hour being the bou bond hour. And if you recall, I taught Peter that, you know, he can come down from his high if he took some cbd. And I followed that up with an email to you guys and hadn't heard back. So I just wanted to call follow up because I have an idea about a segment that we could do.

Don Hahn (49:42)

I think it'd be a lot of fun.

Peter Rosenberg (49:44)

Can you give us a quick like 30 second synopsis of the segment idea?

Don Hahn (49:48)

Yes.

Caller/Listener (49:49)

Oh, man.

Peter Rosenberg (49:52)

Drop. Yeah.

Caller/Listener (49:54)

I mean really, it's just kind of talking about how in the sports world cannabis is going to start playing a role in recovery and you know, to get away from open opioids and really about pain management.

Alan Hahn (50:10)

Wow.

Peter Rosenberg (50:11)

Well, you know, I don't know segment.

Alan Hahn (50:13)

But I think it's a statement. Right.

Caller/Listener (50:16)

But there's, there's more in an email if you go through my, if you read my email, Anthony. I forwarded it to all three of you.

Peter Rosenberg (50:26)

Take a look.

Alan Hahn (50:26)

See.

Peter Rosenberg (50:26)

Thank you, Brit. We love Brit. And I can't wait to hear that drop at Ennis. The old man that she said did not hit the the same way the idea did, which sounded pretty reasonable. I do think there's potentially a lot of upside to marijuana and cannabis, however you want to describe it, helping people with a lot of the pain stuff that obviously opioids are just terrible for.

Alan Hahn (50:51)

Right, Exactly.

Peter Rosenberg (50:52)

And not only from an addiction standpoint, but destroying your body standpoint.

Alan Hahn (50:56)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (50:56)

And that goes back to yesterday's conversation when we had the caller, Don, who called up and said that he goes overseas and eats Burger King. And it's like, well, everything we do here is wrong. Just assume if we do it here, it is the wrong thing to do.

Don Hahn (51:09)

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

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