Don La Greca (2:21)

No, no, I expected it. I really did expect it because I think the betting public is looking at this as Sean Payne's a hell of a coach. The game is in Denver and what got lost in the win against Houston, Drake May didn't play well. He turned the ball over three times, fumbled as well, and it was lost because it was such a miserable performance by C.J. stroud that that's all anybody talked about. If he plays, I'll tell you what, if he plays the way he played last Sunday, on this Sunday, they're losing. So that's why I think it's a good bet. Now, even with three and a half, you still get the hook. So I totally see if the Patriots win this game. I could see it being a great game. They win by a field goal. So I. It's a drastic move, but I think it makes sense. I think it shows respect for where the game is being played and who's coaching the Broncos.

Alan Hahn (3:18)

Yeah, the look ahead before we knew about Bo Nicks and everything else was actually favoring the Broncos at one and a half. But the Bo Knicks news comes out and now you're like, wait a minute, Jared Stim, he hasn't thrown a pass all year. So that right away makes you just heavily. Everybody heavily favors. The Patriots got up to five and a half, which that definitely felt like way too much. But now down to three and a half makes it now still Denver's the home team, so there's still a home dog in a championship game. That's a rarity. But you're right. And you point out, pointing out May in the postseason, like during the regular season, he led the league at a completion percentage of 72% with just eight fumbles over an entire season and only three of them lost. Right. In the playoffs, his completion Percentage is down to 59%. As you mentioned, Don, he has six fumbles in the playoffs, three of them lost.

Peter Rosenberg (4:12)

He's putting the ball on the ground.

Alan Hahn (4:13)

So all of a sudden.

Peter Rosenberg (4:14)

Yeah, well, listen, I was pretty clear about this yesterday. You know, Allen, if Allen. We'll see what Alan does here. I mean, as we know, I'm technically out of reach. There's discussion about if I were to somehow gain all the points on Allen this week, would we maybe do something fun for the Super Bowl? I don't know what's going to happen, okay? But I like Denver for all the reasons Don just laid out. The. To me, probably the best coach in the. In the whole thing. And that's tough to say, though, because McVeigh is McVeigh, but Sean Payton is. He was coveted and paid a grip to go to Denver for a reason. This is the reason to be in a spot like this where, respectfully, to Mike Vrabel and Drake May and everything the Pats have accomplished this Year they are up against a incredibly well coached team with a great defense in a, in a home game. That's a hard place to play not just because of noise but because of altitude. It's over 3. That's why I'm going to go with Denver to play this thing close in the end because I just really think it ends up being an ugly close game. Now I will say three and a half is different than four and a half like that. That is a significant jump. I am, I would not be shocked. It would not shock me if it ends up falling between the three and a half and the four and a half like that is a really significant number to see. To see move. But every part of me thinks this should be an incredibly close game and I certainly hope it is because I hate both of these teams with a passion.

Don La Greca (5:43)

Now you look at Bo Nix in the win against Buffalo and that game went to overtime. 26 of 46 to 79, three touchdowns, one interception. Now I doubt very seriously Stidham's going to go out and throw the ball 46 times. So you're still talking about Bo Nix who had 20 incompletions through a pick. Now I, if they are conservative with it, try to run the football and just ask him not to lose the game. He's played the NFL before so it's not like he's completely, I mean he's only made what, three, four starts but you know, he's, he's been in the league. I just, I've always said I think the gap between Bo Nix and, and Stidham is not as gargantuan as would be for other backup quarterbacks. His only is what is his only second year in the league. So it's a, it's a gap. Just judging by how much it moved for, you know, Vega, it usually doesn't move four or five points the way it does.

Alan Hahn (6:38)

No. That's a sweet.

Don La Greca (6:39)

But yeah, I do think it's. I think they can devise a game plan in their own building that they could still find a way to win this game or at least stay within.

Alan Hahn (6:50)

Three points and think about it again too. It's it. You're talking about the coaching aspect of this and having two defenses that were top four in the league in scoring defense, keeping teams under 18 points. Both teams were holding teams under 19 points a game throughout the regular season. So the expectation is you're going to play conservative. You're going to rely a lot on your like you're going to tell your deep like Jared Stum is not. You're not asking him to win the game for you. Right. You're not asking him. You're asking him not to lose the game for you. Don't turn the ball over. Keep it simple. And Sean Payton will desire devise a plan. Now you also have to wonder if the, the un. The unknown of Stidham is what makes it more difficult. Like does that make sense? It probably doesn't. But to say like it's actually a little more of a challenge for the Patriots because they don't know it.

Peter Rosenberg (7:41)

What do you expect that is true.

Alan Hahn (7:43)

What do you like all of us for?

Peter Rosenberg (7:45)

No, we can all sit here and say like Jared Stidham bum. The truth is we've no one's seen him. I mean, well, it's not even that.

Alan Hahn (7:51)

It's like you don't know what they're going to do now. At least with Nicks you have a whole season of this is what they do.

Peter Rosenberg (7:57)

Well, that's what I'm saying. What tape, what tape do you have really on Stidham to know what they're going to do.

Alan Hahn (8:02)

Right.

Peter Rosenberg (8:04)

And it was it four games. We said guys that he's played, he's.

Alan Hahn (8:06)

Played in his entire career. Yeah. But not one this year.

Don La Greca (8:09)

And also when you take a look at when they found out there was bone. No bonix. We found out immediately after game.

Alan Hahn (8:17)

Literally right afterwards. Yes.

Don La Greca (8:18)

So this they didn't find out on Wednesday or Thursday. Scrambling they've had all week for Sean Payton, one of the best coaches in the NFL to game plan knowing who his quarterback is going to be. Work on it all week long. Now listen, there's a disadvantage. They'd rather have Bo Nicks, no question. But I think considering the circumstances, it was the best case scenario. They had as much time as humanly possible to prepare. It's a good coach. I think that he could find a way to get it done. Now there'll be moments where a play can't be made because he's a backup quarterback. He doesn't have a ton of experience but the idea is to not put him in those situations and hope the defense gets some turnovers which May has been providing in the postseason. Remember they gave up 30 points to Buffalo. I'm sorry. Drake May's got a really bright future in this league. He's not Josh Allen. He's not yet. So I think this could be a fun game.

Alan Hahn (9:13)

Yeah. And Denver's defense, you know, they do 71 sacks so far on the entire season. Second highest quarterback pressure as well, so for May, this is, you know, it's. He's going up against what's going to be a tough defense and a tough place to play and the biggest game that he's ever played in his professional career, maybe in his entire football career.

Peter Rosenberg (9:36)

You know what I wanted to quickly.

Don La Greca (9:37)

Ask you, Alec, as you played, but we could all put ourselves in situations that Stidham is in right now, like what's expected of them? Like there's going to be pressure, right, because you're playing in a championship game. But really sometimes that puts you in a really, a less pressure filled spot when no one's expecting you to do anything. You saw the line move. Does that give you an air of, hey, nobody's expecting me to win this game?

Alan Hahn (10:00)

No, no, he's.

Don La Greca (10:02)

So I don't feel a lot of pressure in. Because what do you really honestly expect him to go out there and do?

Alan Hahn (10:06)

Well, what he has to do is trust the game plan. And you have a great coach that you can do that with, right? So you have that. But. But no, as an athlete, you're. You always are going to feel that pressure because A, I don't want to lose the game for my team. I want to give us a chance. Right. He knows Bo Nix is not playing in the Super Bowl. So if we win this game, I'm also going to play in the Super Bowl. So you're feeling that like, you know, like, yeah, I. So you have to just be on script and don't do anything crazy. I don't want to turn the ball over. I don't want anything stupid. But you're also dealing with a Mike Vrabel who's a great coach and a really good New England defense that you're, you know, that might make you make mistakes because you're just not ready for it. This is a tough spot for this guy. But Sean Payton, who spoke with the media, had very interesting things to say. He expressed which he should full confidence in Jared Stidham. Here's what he said.

Don La Greca (10:57)

That'll be our approach. I mean, hey, he's got this calm demeanor that I think suits him well. He's played in big games. You know, I said this at the start of the season. I felt like our two was inside the best 32. And I think everyone feels that way.

Alan Hahn (11:14)

Think about that. Our two meaning quarterbacks, we're inside the best 32, which is saying that our backup is better than someone else's starter, which I guess among the worst teams in the NFL. It's not exactly the worst take. But he, you know, he had us a week to get him ready. He feels pretty confident in him and I love this. So we're going to go with the back and forth now between these two teams, which has been great. I played you the John Franklin Myers stuff earlier because he said that. Well, let's play it again. For those who might have missed it, John Franklin Myers, the former Jet defensive player was talking about Stidham and he compared him while he's running the scout offense to which is this is weird because he wouldn't have run the scout offense. But let's just listen. If John Franklin Myers compare Stidham to the quarterback he's going up against in this game.

Peter Rosenberg (12:03)

The thing about Stitty, he knows what he's doing. He understands why the coach is calling.

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Alan Hahn (12:27)

To that again, as some people considered that was him comparing him to May. What he's saying is all year he was running scout offenses better than the opposing quarterbacks could run it. That's kind of what he's saying. There got a lot of confidence in him, clearly.

Peter Rosenberg (12:43)

Now, I don't know. Obviously Vrabel hasn't been there very long, but I'm sure some of the coaching staff has been around in New England long enough to remember Stidham's days in New England, which has to be some. I mean, listen, he wasn't doing a lot, but he did get in with the Patriots in 19 he played in three games and in 2020 he played in five games. Listen, it was a total of 48 attempts as a Patriot. But either way, guys, you know, the way they treat this whole thing, that's information. There are guys there who have information on city somebody.

Alan Hahn (13:22)

Vrabel wasn't there, but obviously plenty of.

Peter Rosenberg (13:25)

People are around who know.

Alan Hahn (13:26)

Yeah, yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (13:26)

And not to mention it's the Patriots, you know that. That's right. City, they're recording things, taking air out of balls.

Alan Hahn (13:34)

You know what they do. Peace, Diddy. Here's Sean Payton, though as now, of course, Broncos fans hearing the news that you're starting quarterback Sean P. Steady, Combs. You're right on. You're. You're right on the verge of being in a Super bowl, had a great year. And then this happened. So the head coach of the Denver Broncos was asked if he had a message for Broncos fans.

Don La Greca (13:54)

Well, they're gonna have plenty of rest after this one.

Alan Hahn (13:57)

Two weeks.

Don La Greca (13:58)

This is a team at the line of scrimmage that does a lot. Josh is his f fantastic at putting together good plans offensively. I mean, let's go just as the huddle begins until the ball snap.

Alan Hahn (14:11)

Okay, so they're going to rest easy, have plenty of time to get ready for the Super Bowl. So Mike Vrabel was asked what he thought of what the opposing coach said.

Peter Rosenberg (14:19)

I think we're plenty motivated for the game. I think that our players are continuing to build confidence through the week.

Don La Greca (14:25)

So I'm really excited to go out there and play.

Alan Hahn (14:30)

Not a lot of trash talk there. And how about Kayshawn Booty, one of my favorite football names. Not that you guys need any extra.

Don La Greca (14:37)

Motivation, but did you see the Sean.

Alan Hahn (14:38)

Payton quote insinuating that Denver fans will.

Don La Greca (14:40)

Have some extra rest for the Super Bowl?

Alan Hahn (14:43)

So they have two weeks for the rest of. Does that matter to you guys at all?

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Alan Hahn (14:48)

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Don La Greca (14:53)

Now, guys, the line is now moved back to four and a half.

Alan Hahn (14:57)

Wait, already?

Don La Greca (14:59)

Already? So are they listening to this show?

Peter Rosenberg (15:01)

Probably.

Alan Hahn (15:03)

That was quick.

Peter Rosenberg (15:03)

Either either that or some smart money just went that other way. A nice big stack of cash just got dropped off in an envelope. Floyd Mayweather just stopped by the book, you know, and, yeah, dropped off some cage.

Alan Hahn (15:13)

Well, you guys, Fortinbaugh texted me because I asked him, like, how did this. Where did this begin? Where is it now? What do you think? Just because he's so good. Joe Fortinbaugh, of course. And he said, again, the thing opened, Denver minus one and a half. And obviously the Knicks injury changed everything. So the high point, he said, you know, again, so it's plus 5.5 and that's. He said the pros bought it at Denver, taking the five and a half on Wednesday. And then the line quickly moved. So that's. He's feeling like that was the easy play. Does that impact any decisions that we're going to make later in this hour? Because we have to play. We have to play the current line. Right?

Peter Rosenberg (15:57)

That's all we can do.

Alan Hahn (15:58)

So the current line for a second was three and a half. Now it's back to four.

Don La Greca (16:01)

Yeah. Well, we still have a couple of segments on, you know, my. Who knows what it'll swing to again. But I made the pick when I did the work today. I was working off of four and a half.

Alan Hahn (16:13)

Sure did.

Don La Greca (16:14)

Well, we found out about three and a half, so.

Alan Hahn (16:17)

Yeah. Well, the other game is. We're not talking as much about the other game. Hold on.

Peter Rosenberg (16:22)

Before we get to the other game, let me ask you a question. Last thing on this. Do you guys happen to know who Stitty's father in law is?

Alan Hahn (16:29)

Yeah. Father in law.

Peter Rosenberg (16:31)

Yeah.

Alan Hahn (16:32)

What do you got for me?

Peter Rosenberg (16:33)

Go steady's father in law is Tad Brown who is CEO of the Harris Group. Basically. He's basically. Stitty is Don's boss is what I'm saying. Stitty is basically steady could basically tell Don to get lost if he wanted to because part of the devil's ownership group. CEO of the. Of the ownership group. Hey lookreka. Open your mouth. So I guess what I'm trying to tell you is no matter what money finds money in the words of someone we know well, Don. And no matter what happens to old Stitty on Sunday, I got news for you. It's going to be just fine.

Alan Hahn (17:09)

Oh yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (17:10)

How crazy is that? Thaddeus Brown, CEO of the Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertainment Group Sixers Devils. He was CEO of the Houston Rockets. So steady's gonna be all right either way, guys.

Alan Hahn (17:22)

Yeah.

Don La Greca (17:23)

And commanders too. No, bless.

Peter Rosenberg (17:24)

Yeah. I don't understand it doesn't say that he's part of the commanders though.

Alan Hahn (17:27)

Well, he can't.

Peter Rosenberg (17:28)

Oh no, no.

Alan Hahn (17:32)

I'm just saying. But that, that it's amazing. That's an amazing connection.

Peter Rosenberg (17:36)

I got rich people. They just find more rich crazy. And look at the yo yos we are. We found wonderful people.

Alan Hahn (17:45)

Not rich. But we're rich in life, man.

Peter Rosenberg (17:48)

That's right.

Alan Hahn (17:51)

That's what matters. Rams Seahawks is steady holding at Seahawks laying two and a half steady. The most compelling thing about this game has to be the curiosity of Sam Darnold. Right. He did not look good against the Rams for most of three of three and change quarters. But man would have finished it out last time they met back in December when the crazy finish 16 points in the. In the fourth and then obviously going for two and overtime they get the dub after they went down by a touchdown. You know this is again another guy biggest game of his football career in this spot against the Rams team that's been there, done that a young defense. That's very good. McVeigh trying to go three and oh in championship games. Can Sam Darnold do it?

Peter Rosenberg (18:40)

It's. It's such an incredible legacy building game. I mean, you realize that if Sam were to lose this game, and as we know, guys, it is very easy in this league to never get back championship games. Even with Seattle. As much as we feel like we were always there, they're always there. When were they really last there?

Alan Hahn (19:00)

2014.

Peter Rosenberg (19:01)

That's. I got news for you. Jump that into the. Jump, jump that forward into the future. 12 years. Sam Donald ate the quarterback. So even for the teams that get the chance to do it often, it's not often.

Alan Hahn (19:12)

Yeah.

Peter Rosenberg (19:13)

And if Sam were to lose and Seattle loses this game as home favorites, you know, there's a good chance you never get back and maybe you do something else here or there, have a good season, blah, blah, blah, you probably have a nice little career. You go to the super bowl, you lead a team to the super bowl. And if somehow you were to win that super bowl, it's an incredible story for a guy who was, you know, stuck in the worst of situations here, bounced around and now ends up in this spot. I think it's a lot more pressure on Sam than it is on Stitty, who's going into this game being like, you kind of have every reason to fail. Don, I think with the success you've seen from Sam Darnold the regular season, you expect that he should be able to show up in this spot.

Don La Greca (19:54)

I hope so. I'm rooting for him. But I've been talking about the experience of Matthew Stafford, by far the most experienced quarterback in all of the postseason, and yet you barely beat Carolina, you barely beat Chicago.

Alan Hahn (20:08)

Right.

Don La Greca (20:08)

So it's not like he's been overly impressive, but he's found ways to win games and in tough places. I mean, Carolina not as tough at Chicago. The elements. Elements should not be an issue in Seattle, although that's probably a tougher home field than Chicago and Carolina, although Chicago is not easy to play in the finding ways to win. So you've got a Super bowl head coach, you've got a Super bowl quarterback that's finding ways to win. But I think potentially both these games could be absolute classics.

Peter Rosenberg (20:41)

But it's hard to.

Alan Hahn (20:44)

Would either of you agree?

Peter Rosenberg (20:46)

Sorry, Al. Real quick, do you guys think that the criticism of Stafford basically, hey, Stafford's a great quarterback, but how could you not be great in this offense with Devonte Adams and Puka Nukua? Like, you arguably have the two best receivers in all of the game. Is there any argument to Stafford season being, well, really good? A bit padded by the fact that he has what he has.

Alan Hahn (21:16)

Yeah, but I mean, did you see.

Don La Greca (21:17)

How many touchdowns he threw, for God's sake.

Alan Hahn (21:19)

I mean. Yeah. Like other. Other teams have. I'm sorry, Hertz has AJ Brown and devontae Smith. Right.

Peter Rosenberg (21:29)

He does.

Alan Hahn (21:29)

Like, that's pretty good. Like that. You could. Pretty good teams that have guys that are. Atlanta's got a ton of talent on the outside. Right. They have. Like there are teams that have talent that they just couldn't get it right.

Peter Rosenberg (21:41)

But this is.

Alan Hahn (21:42)

This is good. But this is.

Peter Rosenberg (21:44)

But this is.

Alan Hahn (21:45)

Last year looked like he was dumb. Dumb. No.

Peter Rosenberg (21:47)

Well, exactly. But he wasn't there. So. So you're right. So then Stafford deserves credit for the reemergence of Devonte Adams. Although Devonte was. He was with the Jets.

Alan Hahn (21:56)

I mean, he was with his guy, Aaron Rodgers.

Peter Rosenberg (21:59)

I know, I know. But. But also let's.

Don La Greca (22:01)

They're both of the Jets.

Peter Rosenberg (22:02)

Many. They were both on the Jets. They were both poisoned. The well was ruined.

Alan Hahn (22:08)

But I'll say this.

Peter Rosenberg (22:09)

People believe Puka Nukua could be the best player in football this season. Like that is a thought.

Alan Hahn (22:14)

He's been fantastic. I think they both kind of. It's. It's. They both rely on each other. Right. I think the receiving core makes the quarterback look great and the quarterback is taking advantage of the receiving core. I think you can say that both, both things are true. And that was what leads him to be the runaway MVP this year. Right?

Peter Rosenberg (22:33)

46. You said it. 46 touchdowns. I mean, you're right. It's an impasse number.

Alan Hahn (22:39)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, now, again, the winner of the NFC Championship do we feel like would be the easily the favorite for the Super Bowl? Is the NFC going to dominate once again?

Don La Greca (22:51)

You heard what Stephen A. Said today. Stephen A. Said that the, that the super bowl is the NFC Championship game.

Alan Hahn (22:58)

Are we buying that?

Don La Greca (23:01)

Well, certainly if Denver finds a way to win, there'll be a massive dog in a Super Bowl. And considering. Well, the Patriots won't be massive, but either way, Rams, Seahawks will be the favorite. You would think.

Peter Rosenberg (23:16)

Well, is there. Is there a fair comp to be made? Here's the one thing I'll push back on with Steven's point. There's a comp to be made between Seattle and New England.

Alan Hahn (23:26)

Yes.

Peter Rosenberg (23:27)

Like these are. These are both teams that had a really good year.

Alan Hahn (23:30)

I mean, two good and a. Two good defensive teams, two good coaches and then quarterbacks who are who got to prove it but have had good seasons. Yeah, I think those two would definitely kind of line up.

Peter Rosenberg (23:45)

But here's, here's the look ahead lines.

Alan Hahn (23:47)

If it interests you, okay, if it's.

Peter Rosenberg (23:50)

Seattle and the Patriots, it would be Seattle minus three and a half. If it's Seattle and the Broncos, it would be Seattle. Wait for it. Nine and a half. Damn. If it's the Rams and the Patriots, the Rams would be minus three. And if it's the Rams and the Broncos, double digit minus eight and a half for the Rams. No, they have, they have Seattle as the stronger team in the futures.

Alan Hahn (24:20)

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Peter Rosenberg (24:21)

But Seattle's a slight favorite this weekend, so.

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Yeah, well, we still got to play the games and we got to make our picks. That's coming up.

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Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Don Han, Rosenberg, ESPN New York. We'll get back to your calls at 800-919-3776. We got our picks coming up for the weekend as well. But speaking of the weekend as we are preparing for it, we want to prepare you as best we can for it. Is a winter storm coming this weekend? It's going to be very cold tomorrow before the storm even hits. And to get into a little more just to get you ready for it, our good friend, friend of the show, you see him on News 12, Rich Hoffman. Joining us right now, meteorologist extraordinaire Rich, how you doing?

Rich Hoffman (27:33)

I'm doing okay. Just getting ready for a little snow. It's been a while.

Alan Hahn (27:38)

It's only been a week. What some what is the first thing that you are telling people about this storm that's coming and what to prepare for? Like when did you expect it to hit, how much for the area as well?

Rich Hoffman (27:54)

Heading up from southern New Jersey, it's overnight Saturday and then it overspreads New York City, Long island into the Hudson Valley during the day on Sunday. So once you get past 8 o' clock Sunday morning, you want to kind of stay home a little bit. I know a lot of people are traveling on Sunday, want to watch some football games and stuff. But it comes down really heavy Sunday afternoon. Poor visibility, 1 to 2 inches per hour. A good old fashioned snowstorm at that point. And then we head towards Sunday evening. We watch some mixing especially along the Jersey shore out towards Long Island. And by the time this is done, I'm telling my friends and families, be prepared for about a foot of snow. Hudson Valley, maybe 15 to 18 inches. And that's one of the things we'll be watching through Sunday into Monday morning.

Don La Greca (28:39)

That's pretty incredible.

Peter Rosenberg (28:40)

So is there a word like in Other words, do you think that when we get to Monday, it ends up being a somewhat straightforward just big snowstorm and by Sunday evening, I mean, by Monday evening we're sort of shoveled out and moving on, or is this going to be more crazy than that? Because we know in the south, obviously there's a lot of concerns about the ice and all the other things it could do. But are we looking for more into just a straight ahead snowstorm that after 24 hours we kind of get past?

Rich Hoffman (29:08)

For most of us, it is kind of straight ahead. There will be some ice and this is going to be a good week for pond hockey. We're going to have so much cold weather after this. So this is a little bit different. Where, you know, a lot of storms lately, it melts the next day, this snow that comes down is going to stay for a while. So that's one of the things that's.

Alan Hahn (29:26)

Going to be different.

Rich Hoffman (29:26)

It's going to be so cold beforehand and so cold afterwards that we, we could have lows by the end of next week below zero. So this snow is not going to go anywhere anytime fast.

Don La Greca (29:36)

Now I was wondering, is the timing of this good from the standpoint that we're talking about Sunday, everybody stay home, hunker down. Are we able as communities to be able to get ahead of this, start the plow as it's coming down so that by the time we get to the rush hour Monday, we can have things cleared out?

Rich Hoffman (29:56)

Yeah, absolutely. By that point, you know, they're going to start keeping up with it. Sunday afternoon they'll do a couple of passes out on the road and then by Sunday night it starts tapering off, especially in New Jersey and then out towards Long Island. By late morning Monday, Montauk is starting to move out. So I think there'll be possibly school delays Tuesday morning to looking at that. I know my son just got his Chromebook being prepared for Monday with, you know, virtual school nowadays. So, you know, that's one of the things I think, I think a lot of people are trending to because it's going to be cold. So do you want to send your kid out there waiting for the bus? Is it not going to come if there's going to be a delay? So I think there's going to be a lot more virtual days on Monday.

Alan Hahn (30:38)

Is there anything to the fact that Saturday is going to be we. I saw a low of nine in New York City, eight on the island and you know, obviously the outskirts of the city, a low of that high of not even getting to 20 degrees on Saturday. Having it that cold before a storm like that, does that change anything when it comes to what, what we end up not winding up getting as far as you already told us about a foot, but also the fact that with the ground so damn cold, that would it make it more difficult to clear the snow?

Rich Hoffman (31:08)

What's going to happen initially with when it's that cold? Compared to all the other storms we got, the first inch of snow is going to be ice right away. So people like, ah, it's slightly snowing, there's only an inch. They're going to be slipping and sliding from the Garden State Parkway to lie heading up north. That's the problem when it's so cold, 1 inch of snow could be much worse than 6 inches when it's that cold. To start off with, is there any.

Don La Greca (31:32)

Version in which we question.

Peter Rosenberg (31:34)

Sorry, go ahead, Peter.

Don La Greca (31:35)

I'm sorry, I. Was there any version in which we.

Peter Rosenberg (31:39)

Don'T get the, the entire thing? Like is there any. There are a bunch of different models. Is there still a version in which it turns out to be much ado about nothing? Are we definitely getting slammed with at least, you know, 6, 7, 8 inches?

Rich Hoffman (31:52)

All the computer models, you know, if you do the weather geeky stuff, the European, the NAND model, all of them have a good thump of Snow before say 5 or 6 o' clock on Sunday. And that's anywhere from about 4 to 8 inches of quick burst. And the question is, what could change? Do we get a mix? Do we get a little bit of rain? And that's later. So that's the worst part of the storm. You're looking at 1 to 2 inches of snow per hour Sunday afternoon. And then what happens, you know, Sunday night where, you know, maybe it fizzles out, maybe it's a little rain or a little bit of mix. But that first part of the storm, all the models are in agreement that we're going to get a quick burst of heavy snow to start.

Don La Greca (32:30)

All right, so my self serving question is the Devils are in Seattle for a Sunday afternoon game with the plan of leaving after the game and probably getting into Newark around midnight Sunday night into Monday morning. Is that doable? Is that still on table or am I going to be leaving month sometime Monday from Seattle?

Rich Hoffman (32:52)

You're probably going to be leaving Monday because you know commercial flights that are flying out, they're not going to have planes here. So they don't want to leave them here and get them stuck here. So they're going to try to keep them out of the tri state as long as possible.

Don La Greca (33:08)

Well, I am on a charter so that does, does that help a little bit?

Rich Hoffman (33:12)

That does help a little bit. Depending on if there's any ice. But it's, you know, you may be able to get in, you know, or delay, they may delay it a little bit. So instead of midnight you may get in by 4 or 5 o' clock.

Peter Rosenberg (33:24)

Monday morning and back out in Seattle, back to self serving. You think I'll be able to get on a flight to Toronto at 7pm Monday. What are your thoughts?

Rich Hoffman (33:39)

7Pm Monday night. If, if the planes here you'll be able to fly out. That's the key. A lot of planes, they get them out of here first. But if your planes in the local airport, you're going to get out of here Monday night.

Alan Hahn (33:53)

So Rich, we're in a business where we're talking with Rich hoffman from News 12. If we're in a business that, you know, before super bowl, before the local teams are playing big games, if we're out somewhere, you know you're going to hear hey, what do you think about the game tonight? What do you think about the team tonight? All that stuff, right. I imagine this time of year or anytime there's storms, of course, but this weekend you can't go anywhere. I'm sure people are probably like asking you for the inside there. I know what you're saying on the air, but what's really going to happen, Rich? How much do you get that and how much like do you have to explain that like what Peter asked you? We always wonder, they're telling us afoot. But I don't know, we could end up not getting that. And we're all, you know, it's much ado about nothing. How much of that do you deal with?

Rich Hoffman (34:42)

It's every day, even on a bright and sunny day. People are complaining lately. But the biggest thing for me now is now having young kids trying to get the kids out and enjoying the snow. That's the toughest part. But you know, this is, you know, all these little storms there at the super bowl, that's what we get paid for to make sure we're keeping everybody safe. You know, I miss the days of being able to go out skiing and enjoying all the snow. But now I'm in front of a computer, you know, for eight to ten hours a day tracking all these models. I'll be up tonight, I'll be up tomorrow. I'll be live at 5am Sunday morning on News 12. So you know, that's one of the things that we're watching. And, you know, we're trying to update all of our social media. You know, that's everyone who wants it now. What's happening right now. What changed with the models now? And our audience is becoming more intelligent of being able to read the computer models. So it's a good discussion and more people are interested in. So it's. It's a great job to have with social media, with all the streaming stuff that we have now. You know, we have News 12 New York that streams. We have all of our Facebooks and social media pages that have fun as well.

Alan Hahn (35:48)

Well, it's. That's why we have you on, to make sure that everybody has the latest. So we appreciate it. Get back to work. And by the way, text me first if you know anything new on this storm.

Rich Hoffman (35:59)

Well, I will. I will tell you this. You know, like I said before, pond hockey. I know you guys are big hockey guys.

Alan Hahn (36:04)

Yep.

Rich Hoffman (36:04)

By the middle of next week, we'll be out on the ponds playing a little hockey with the kids.

Alan Hahn (36:07)

This is awesome. I got the rink in the backyard, so Stephanie will be very happy to hear this. Thanks so much, Rich. Appreciate you giving us a few minutes.

Rich Hoffman (36:15)

Hi, guys. Don't Forget, tune into News 12. Guys. Thanks a lot.

Peter Rosenberg (36:18)

Appreciate you, man.

Don La Greca (36:19)

Sure.

Alan Hahn (36:20)

Yeah, we will here on the island. No doubt about it. So not only are we getting the storm, but, you know, normally after we get a big snowstorm, you do get that. All right. Starts to melt and everything cleans up. He's making it sound like this snow's not going anywhere for a while because it's going to be so cold it's not going to melt.

Don La Greca (36:39)

Yeah. We've got a solid week of under, you know, 32 degrees.

Peter Rosenberg (36:43)

Yeah.

Don La Greca (36:43)

This is going to hang around. That's why getting out in front of it's going to be so important, because you don't want to be shoveling 12 inches of snow. Guys, when it's like, parts of it are frozen and it's, like, really stuck and heavy, that's where you get in a lot of trouble. So that's why I was asking him if they could be out ahead of it as it's going, make sure you plow. Maybe you go out and you shovel when it's only a few inches and then go back out and shovel again. You might wake up Monday morning, you might have, like, 12 inches of frozen snow that you're not going to be able to move. DP text, by the way, I sent it to you guys.

Peter Rosenberg (37:17)

No. Here we go.

Alan Hahn (37:18)

Great reading that. Not knowing that it was from Rick first was really concerning. And then I remembered it was what. What Don wrote in the group chat. I was like, wow, Don's going there. And then I realized that you're just the vessel, aren't you?

Don La Greca (37:33)

I'm just forwarding Rick's.

Peter Rosenberg (37:35)

I gotta tell that one. I. I want to call Don a bad guy in this one.

Alan Hahn (37:39)

We can't read that.

Peter Rosenberg (37:41)

I actually want to say. I think. Don't. I think you owe me an apology. I think you probably should have thought better affording this. I'm going to give you a minute to think about it.

Alan Hahn (37:51)

Peter, you did have a line that when you were asking a question about being slammed by. I'm sure Jake will find it.

Peter Rosenberg (37:59)

No, we know it was going to be a draw.

Alan Hahn (38:01)

That was a moment.

Peter Rosenberg (38:02)

But Don, I'll give you a second to reconsider whether you should have actually forwarded that. That's the kind of thing you do to a friend. But it went there. I laughed yesterday.

Don La Greca (38:12)

Humor in it.

Peter Rosenberg (38:13)

Well, yesterday I laughed. But when it. When you get in specific and now we're talking spouses, it starts to get.

Don La Greca (38:19)

Well, why do I have to protect Rick?

Alan Hahn (38:21)

This one was.

Peter Rosenberg (38:23)

It's operating right in this. Is it protecting Rick or protecting me?

Alan Hahn (38:26)

Well, but you know, you know he says. He says this to Dave on the air. So he's texting this, but he says these things to Dave. You're not the only one that's. That's a target here, Peter. These are.

Peter Rosenberg (38:40)

This is.

Alan Hahn (38:41)

This is material that Rick uses against his own co host. But he says it.

Peter Rosenberg (38:46)

But we choose Peter.

Don La Greca (38:48)

Does make a pretty valid point that I probably could have kept it to myself.

Alan Hahn (38:52)

You could have left that alone.

Peter Rosenberg (38:53)

You could. He could have edited. Don could say, you know what? Not for my guy. No, not today. I know Joe Judge. So far, I'm a little worried I'm nailing Aaron Glenn.

Alan Hahn (39:03)

That was one. Wasn't that yesterday? Oh, no, that's when you were deciding. That was two days ago. And we were great.

Peter Rosenberg (39:09)

You guys didn't know that I nailed Joe Jones, did you?

Don La Greca (39:12)

Hey, but, but. So there was a brief moment. Anthony, you thought that was my joke.

Alan Hahn (39:18)

Well, I read it. I said, why would Don say that? And then I said, oh, wait.

Don La Greca (39:22)

And then now I've read it.

Peter Rosenberg (39:23)

I know who this is from.

Don La Greca (39:24)

It's one thing. It's one thing to tell that joke, but then it send it out to the group that Peter's on. That would be pretty. That'd be pretty.

Peter Rosenberg (39:31)

But that's the problem. What you did see, he didn't even announce what it was. Don just said something absolutely insane.

Alan Hahn (39:36)

I thought Don was getting. It took like two seconds for me to figure out Don was saying this is what Rick would say. So I'm just going to say it now.

Don La Greca (39:45)

No, no, no. It never even occurred to me. But it occurred to Rick.

Alan Hahn (39:49)

Well.

Don La Greca (39:49)

And it is funny.

Alan Hahn (39:52)

It is. But I understand Peter say. I just want Peter to understand that. Don't feel like you're the only one. One that's a target. Because I've heard him say these things on the air, too. It's true.

Don La Greca (40:04)

And we'll don't feel bad that he murdered your wife. He's murdered a few wives.

Alan Hahn (40:10)

Yeah. Yeah.

Don La Greca (40:11)

You don't feel bad, Alan.

Peter Rosenberg (40:13)

Yeah, don't worry.

Alan Hahn (40:15)

Dave also trying to just soften it a little bit for him.

Peter Rosenberg (40:18)

Excuse me?

Alan Hahn (40:18)

Because. Yeah. Oh, here comes another text.

Peter Rosenberg (40:20)

Oh, you don't need to. Yeah, here comes another text. Don't worry. You don't have to soften it too much for Peter. I bet Natalie wishes you do the opposite. Hardy har har har. I'm still in a locker room. I'm 60. Let me whip you with a towel.

Don La Greca (40:34)

Hey, well, you know what, Peter? I'm sorry.

Alan Hahn (40:37)

And we love you.

Peter Rosenberg (40:39)

You know that I. You know that I am. I. I hang out at wwe. I share a locker room with people who. Who could look at Rick and with their eyeballs, murder him on site. He would just melt into nothingness. These are big, strong, tough men. They don't feel the need to destroy me and go after me to assert their tough guyness. But old tough guy, locker room, locker room.

Alan Hahn (41:05)

Rick.

Peter Rosenberg (41:06)

That's what we call him. He's got to show everyone how tough he is. Just go back to being manorexic and being in the gym all day, all right? Eat more than 1100 calories in a weekday. Skinny son of a bitch.

Alan Hahn (41:20)

Let it all out. Sorry.

Don La Greca (41:20)

Because.

Alan Hahn (41:21)

Let it all out, Peter.

Peter Rosenberg (41:22)

He's a bad guy. He's your friend, but he's a bad guy.

Alan Hahn (41:25)

Let it all out. We have pics.

Peter Rosenberg (41:27)

I bet Natalie wishes he would let it all out.

Alan Hahn (41:33)

He's going sandler on us now.

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Peter Rosenberg (44:11)

What's the game called? Football.

Alan Hahn (44:13)

These are the Don, Han and Rosenberg pro picks. Dance Football. All right, I have a question for Don. Peter, you have to lay out on this one because it's about you. Okay, Don, do we want. Since we're picking a three point game and a two point game and there's only Two games to pick. Do we want to give Peter any lifeline at all where he could pick an over under for either game and throw. Throw a point total on that? What do you think?

Don La Greca (44:42)

Here's what. Here's what I.

Alan Hahn (44:43)

Right now, just so everybody knows, you have 85. You're running away with it. Six points. I have 66 points in second place, and Peter has 57 points. So the only way you can catch me is if we have to add points to this thing. Right.

Don La Greca (45:02)

So since we're doing three. Two.

Alan Hahn (45:04)

Yeah.

Don La Greca (45:05)

With one being available, would you allow Peter to have one of his plays being over under, and it could be. Could be a three, could be a two, could be a one. So he's picking the two championship games and an over under.

Alan Hahn (45:19)

Right.

Don La Greca (45:19)

And he can decide the point allocation from there.

Alan Hahn (45:23)

I'd be.

Don La Greca (45:26)

Well, it could keep him alive.

Alan Hahn (45:28)

I guess it could. If we just. So we're just gonna gift a point for him? No one else gets this. He gets to pick it over under one of the games, over or under, and he gets a point. So he has the potential to get six out of the weekend, while you and I can only get five.

Peter Rosenberg (45:44)

I. I think the only thing. It's silly.

Alan Hahn (45:48)

You don't like it.

Don La Greca (45:48)

Well, the only way it worked. Well, it's silly. The way Alan described it, like, that's charity, Right. For that same rule, we get to. We get the pick an over under, and it just. It adds an element for him to be able to get back into it. Not, you know, having him and him alone pick the over under again. That makes. Then. That makes.

Alan Hahn (46:11)

That.

Don La Greca (46:11)

That's giving extra points to people.

Peter Rosenberg (46:15)

Mike is very weird. Like something happened.

Alan Hahn (46:17)

What happened to you, Mike? What'd you do?

Peter Rosenberg (46:18)

Like, it's like. Like the connections feels bad, all tested or something.

Don La Greca (46:23)

I don't know. It still sounds bad.

Alan Hahn (46:25)

You're beautiful.

Peter Rosenberg (46:26)

It was your wire. Now you sound much better.

Alan Hahn (46:27)

I think that's an indication we should start making picks. Wow.

Don La Greca (46:30)

Okay, so, right, listen, here's my opinion, Alan. Let's see how this week plays out, and then we can decide, well, two weeks before the Super Bowl Bowl. If we want to add any exotics or anything special for the Super Bowl. What do you think, Peter?

Alan Hahn (46:42)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's fair.

Peter Rosenberg (46:44)

Like, if. Let's see what happens this week.

Alan Hahn (46:47)

Okay.

Peter Rosenberg (46:47)

And then we go from there.

Alan Hahn (46:48)

All right, go for it. Make your picks. Peter, you go first since you're in last.

Peter Rosenberg (46:52)

I don't like how you said it.

Don La Greca (46:54)

But with the accuracy in which you said It.

Peter Rosenberg (46:57)

I've already.

Alan Hahn (46:58)

Exactly what you said.

Peter Rosenberg (47:00)

Yeah, that too. I don't like the accuracy either. I, I am. You know, where I'm at with Denver, New England, what I have the line at now, guys? Is it back to 4 and a half?

Alan Hahn (47:10)

4 and a half.

Peter Rosenberg (47:12)

I'm going to go with Denver to cover the number. I, I'm sure the public will pound New England and I totally understand why. I don't think there's as big a drop off between Bo Nix and Stitty as we might believe because I don't know that we know how great Bo Nix is yet. This is a game that's gonna be one with defense and coaching or at least be kept close that way. So give me, give me Sean Payton to keep it close and make it my three point play because I, it's the game that I just clearly feel more comfortable with. And then I'm gonna go with Seattle. I don't love it. I'm kind of holding my nose here because the Rams, to me, the talent they have at one wide out, all the things but like, my guts been wrong so much that let me just go with Seattle to cover the number at home and go to the Super Bowl. I'm picturing an insane stadium. Don jumping up and down with his new Seattle brethren. You know, the newest member, the newest 12th man, the Legion of Boom, Don Legreca. And I'll go with the sea. I'm going to hold my nose and go with the Seahawks to cover the two and a half points. So give me the Seahawks as my 2 and the Broncos my 3.

Alan Hahn (48:25)

Okay, now, I didn't send my picks to Anthony to make it. To make. To prove that I wasn't gonna just play that defense thing and quarters. Yeah, exactly. And I. This is not easy to do because there's so much like, do I want to have fun or do I want to just play it so safe? How do I want to do it? What's the right way to do it?

Peter Rosenberg (48:52)

You pick what the.

Alan Hahn (48:53)

You give your predictions, pick what I feel. Yes, but, but I can make a case either way on a lot of. On both of these games. You can. You could talk yourself into anything. And so you have to do this. Well, no, because again, do I want to have fun, Don? Do you understand what I'm saying? Do I want to have fun? Now that I know Peter's picks, do I want to have fun or do I want to just make the picks that I know are the picks I want to make?

Don La Greca (49:18)

You make the picks you want to make.

Alan Hahn (49:19)

Exactly.

Peter Rosenberg (49:20)

Got it.

Don La Greca (49:20)

You got to be a man about it. You can't be dishonest.

Alan Hahn (49:22)

Right. Exactly. So again I'll. I'll go with exactly what Peter said again. I'll take Denver. I will take the places.

Peter Rosenberg (49:29)

I'm calling Fraud. Don. I'm calling Fraud. How could he go with Denver? He is the Patriots sick.

Alan Hahn (49:33)

I know.

Peter Rosenberg (49:34)

All year long we get the championship game.

Alan Hahn (49:37)

It feels weird. It feels weird. It feels the whole thing feel doesn't feel right. Two defenses. This is gonna be a low scoring game that May has not. He has been shaky in the playoffs. This is a tough defense. I'm being dead. I'm being deadass.

Peter Rosenberg (49:49)

I believe I will send you a screenshot of text that I again I lost anyway. It doesn't matter.

Alan Hahn (49:55)

So like I just said, I can either have fun and I could have taken the English for fun or I pick what I thought was right. So that's what I'm telling you. Could be mad all you want but give me Denver for three point play at four and a half. Okay, he's in. And then of course for the two same thing. Seattle Rams have played a ton of road games. It's hard to bet against McVeigh and Stafford. I understand that but this, this did what you saw at the end of that game. Seattle figured something out against the Rams no doubt. Sam, you know, might have out figured figured something out to it himself personally. This is a big spot for him and I, I just. I. I've got to take the home team in this game Seattle and it's only two and a half that I'm laying so give me that for two points. And as I said I'm going to make it clear one more time. I could have had fun or I just make the picks I wanted to make. I went with the side of make the picks I wanted to make.

Peter Rosenberg (50:52)

You ruined everything is what you did.

Don La Greca (50:54)

Well, I'll make it quick because we've got ENN coming up. My two point play will be the Broncos for all the reasons you said remember Drake May did not play well last week. I think they'll coach their way Denver into even possibly winning this game but certainly covering the four and a half that's my two point play and I'll go against you guys are going to go with the Rams and the experience of Stafford. They find ways to win. I'm rooting for Seattle. I love Sam Darnold to win this game but I said it from the beginning of the playoffs. With that much experience how do the Rams not take advantage of it. That will be my 333 point play. Now there are a lot of reasons why people buy at Ramsey Mazda. It's their selection, it's their customer service and it's their savings. Lisa New 2025 Mazda CX 52.5 S Select with all wheel drive for 179 for 33 months or buy with 0.9 APR financing for 72 months. Start shopping now at Ramsey Mazda.com choose wisely. Choose Ramsey Mazda. Call 833-853-2970 for lease details. Fin SN 379853 MSRP 33425. 0 Security Deposit APR 14.20 per $1,000 finance and 2226 thanks for listening to.

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