Hour 3: NFL Draft & Knicks

Summary

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Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: NFL Draft & Knicks

Date: March 23, 2026
Hosts: Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Key Topics: NFL Draft, New York Jets & Giants quarterback situations, Knicks performance, sports culture, and fan experiences.

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Episode Overview

This hour dives into the NFL Draft strategy debates for the New York Jets and Giants, focusing on quarterback prospects like Ty Simpson. The hosts field passionate opinions—both their own and from callers—on tanking, coaching, and front office decisions. The back half transitions to the Knicks, examining their dominant performances, playoff positioning, and the ever-persistent doubts of New York sports fans. The episode also includes lighter banter about fan experiences, VIP perks, music for rainy days, and sports culture.

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NFL DRAFT & THE JETS' QUARTERBACK SAGA

Should the Jets Draft a QB This Year or Wait?

• Alan Hahn pushes back on the idea, popular among pundits like Dan Orlovsky, that the Jets should "kick the can down the road" and wait for next year’s draft for a quarterback.
  • "This notion that you should try to lose is hysterical because you’re the Jets. You have cornered the market on losing...you could do a Ted Talk." (01:41)
• Hahn lists other franchises (Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Arizona) also likely to need QBs, emphasizing competition and the fallacy of "just tank and it'll work."
• Peter Rosenberg strongly agrees, underscoring the unpredictability:
  • "Nothing is a guarantee. And every year you throw away..." (02:54)

The Hard Reality of Tanking

• Alan Hahn points out that tanking is “easy in March, but as a fan in October...hell no.”
  • Describes cycles of Jets optimism and the pain of another wasted season (03:12).
  • "The offseason is the easiest time to be a Jets fan because there's all hope, optimism, and...‘we gotta lose for another season’...then you get to October, November, and you’re miserable and hate everything." (05:11)

Callers Weigh In

• Larry, West Orange jokes:
  • "If the Jets tried to lose, they’d probably make the playoffs...because they can’t do anything right.” (04:34-04:42)
• John, Mawa outlines why he likes QB prospect Ty Simpson, highlighting his coach’s son pedigree, size, and mechanics.
  • "He needs to sit. So let him sit. And if things turn bad, I'd love to see us lose all our games next year and try again…But I'm kidding here." (07:07-08:59)
  • Defends Simpson's rough Georgia game as a result of being injured and sick.
• Hosts follow up: Both challenge the guarantee of finding a better prospect next year (Dante Moore, Arch Manning).
  • Peter Rosenberg: "You're telling me next year after going 0-17, when it's even deeper and darker, we're 1000% sure on the draft?" (09:22)

Coaching, GM Decisions, and the Simpsons Debate

• Hosts examine the “chicken and egg” issue for the Jets:
  • If the team tanks and fires its coach, can they attract a top replacement?
  • Importance of current GM “Muji” and his track record is highlighted.
  • Alan Hahn: “The biggest thing for any GM is the draft…this is a big time right now for Muji.” (06:15)

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GIANTS, THE DRAFT, & CAM SCATTERBOO

Gambling & NFL Draft Needs

• Caller Andrew, Long Island brings up Giants' first-round options (Sonny Styles, Downs) and draft strategy.

  • Also cites concerning legal gambling stats (03.3 billion bet on March Madness) (12:13, 12:28).
  • "This could be a pandemic among young men…It’s a little scary." (12:42)

• Alan & Peter analyze Giants’ likely draft approach:

  • Styles (LB) is seen as a “Harbaugh fit.”
  • Hahn: “I always feel like…go with talent best available… but there are areas and holes you want to fill.” (13:50)
  • Rosenberg: “It totally depends on the level of talent versus what the need is. Like, it’s situational.” (14:30)

Flag Football vs. NFL Talents

• Caller Matt, Long Island: Makes a witty comparison between NFL and flag football, likening it to Djokovic trying pickleball:
  • “Given enough time, Djokovic would probably be better…these NFL guys aren’t gonna waste their time preparing for flag football.” (15:30)
  • Discusses a flag QB claiming he’s better than Mahomes at flag, leading Rosenberg to quip: “It’s a different game, I know it better.” (17:06)

Cam Scatterboo Drama & Streaming

• Giants RB Cam Scatterboo: Debate over his NFL potential following injury; callers and hosts discuss how “grit” and “IQ” have defined his value.
  • Peter Rosenberg: “He’s a guy, because of his grit and determination, was excelling…the worrisome part is if he’s affected [by injury].” (19:00-19:32)
• Scatterboo's CTE Joke & Streaming:
  • Scatterboo’s comments joking about CTE and asthma on a stream drew outrage.
  • Hahn: “You don’t realize, oh, this is being recorded, being consumed. And out of context, no one realizes that we’re just effing around.” (21:18)
  • Rosenberg: “He’s not a rocket scientist…he likes to go on stream and talk a lot of yin yang. So we’re gonna be here again. I’m guaranteeing it.” (21:50)
  • All agree he needs to be more careful due to his public profile.

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KNICKS: DOMINANCE, DOUBT, & FAN EXPERIENCE

Knicks Rout the Wizards – Numbers & History

• Alan Hahn on Knicks’ 32-point romp over the Wizards:
  • “It’s the eighth time this season they’ve beaten a team by 30 or more...No team in Knicks history has ever done it eight times.” (29:03)
  • Compares to 1970 championship team – but thinks it’s also a sign of weakness in today’s NBA.

Season Narrative & Post-NBA Cup Malaise

• 23–9 start (3rd best 32-game record in the league), then 2–9 post-NBA Cup, now riding a 22–7 stretch (2nd best over that span).
  • Hahn: “We do amplify losses…and even when they’ve been winning lately, we’ve been amplifying what doesn’t…what we don’t like about the winning…” (30:56)
• Knicks now have the No. 1 defense during their recent 22–7 run and are approaching 2nd place in the East, holding the tiebreaker over the Celtics.
  • Yet, “the eye test tells you…there's things about this team that I just don't know if I can believe.” (33:32)

Knicks Fan Doubt, Playoff Outlook

• Peter Rosenberg: “And yet, you still have the feeling for a lot of fans…watching them the last few weeks, you don't feel great, right?” (35:09)
• Recent wins (incl. ugly ones vs. Nets) reflect out-talenting weaker opponents, but not always total dominance.

Knicks vs. Pelicans Preview

• Hosts predict favorites, discuss missing Vegas line (36:18-36:54), and share plans to attend and meet up at the Garden/Delta Club (37:00–38:50).

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SPORTS CULTURE, VIP & FAN EXPERIENCES

The Perks of the Delta Club

• Inside scoop on luxury sports venues:
  • Delta Club at the Garden described as exclusive, “free everything,” where celebs and ex-Knicks mingle (39:45–40:10).

Music, Mood, and Rainy NYC Days

• Banter about Anita Baker and music that “fits the weather” (45:09 onward).
  • Alan Hahn: “Sometimes weather dictates music…today felt like Anita Baker.” (45:33)

Italian Dessert Discourse

• Comic argument about pronunciation of tiramisu.
  • Rosenberg: “Let’s not act like tiramisu sounds Italian; it sounds more Japanese than Italian to me, who speaks neither language.” (41:59)

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• Alan Hahn (on Jets tanking): "You have cornered the market on losing...you could do a TED Talk.” (01:41)
• Caller Larry: “If the Jets tried to lose, they’d probably make the playoffs.” (04:34)
• Peter Rosenberg: “Nothing is a guarantee. And every year you throw away…” (02:54)
• Caller Matt: “NFL guys aren’t going to waste their time playing flag football.” (15:30)
• Rosenberg (on Cam Scatterboo): “He’s not a rocket scientist…I’m guaranteeing it [another streaming controversy will happen].” (21:50)
• Alan Hahn (on Knicks fans): “The eye test tells you there’s things about this team that I just don’t know if I can believe in them being a team that’s there at the end.” (33:32)
• Caller Danny: “Being a fan is such a disease. It really is.” (51:30)

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IMPORTANT TIMESTAMPS

• [01:41] – Jets’ tanking debate and why it’s not a feasible strategy for future QB drafts.
• [07:07-08:59] – Caller breaks down Ty Simpson’s strengths and draft logic.
• [12:13, 12:28] – Giants draft chat & gambling stats.
• [19:00-21:50] – Cam Scatterboo’s future, CTE joke controversy, and streaming risks.
• [29:03, 30:56] – Knicks’ historical win stats and the peculiar duality of fan confidence.
• [36:18–36:54] – Preview Knicks-Pelicans; hosts discuss going to the game, Delta Club perks.
• [41:59] – Tiramisu pronunciation debate.
• [45:09] – Music-for-weather banter (Anita Baker & rainy days).
• [51:30] – Who are true suffering fans, caller’s commentary on fandom as a “disease.”

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SUMMARY

This episode is a quintessential slice of modern New York sports radio—a mix of hard analysis, wit, and genuine fan emotion. The hosts dissect the high-stakes, often cynical world of NFL team-building as it plays out with the Jets and Giants, balancing call-ins from knowledgeable and comedic fans. They pivot seamlessly to the rapidly changing Knicks season, mixing numbers with the city’s trademark skepticism. The banter is brisk, irreverent, and packed with both nostalgia and contemporary dilemmas, ultimately capturing the pulse of sports life in New York and beyond.

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Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New

[Alan Hahn]

York app and your smart speakers. It's 502 in the big city, a big empty chair sitting next to me. We are in the five o' clock hour. We have calls to get to 800-919-3776, conversations to get to involving the Knicks, of course the jets that we've already had discussions about. Richard called earlier about some type of NBA anti tanking draft idea stuff. I saw something on social media last week that I found really interesting that we could certainly throw out there as well. And for those that are just again, you're going to push back on the Ty Simpson point that Dan Orlofsky was making this morning on get up and other places apparently and saying that the jets need to wait till next year and you'd rather them get a quarterback in next year's draft. And I keep saying to you, like who? Like there's no guarantee and even Arch Manning isn't a guarantee that Arch Manning light up college football this year. Like right now there's a lot of what he could be, but it doesn't mean that's what he is. Okay, but you also think about this. You are one of several teams that are going to be doing the same thing if this is what you want to do. Those other teams of Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Arizona, am I missing anyone that's going to need a quarterback next year and they want to go in the draft? Like it's not going to be like where you're the only team and there are teams that are going to do whatever it takes to lose as much as they possibly can. So this notion that you really can easily kick the can down the road now you are the Jets. You don't have to try and have a bad season. You for the majority of 16 years you've done it pretty well and you've been trying to win. So this notion that you should try to lose is hysterical because you're the jets. You have cornered the market on losing and how to I mean, you could do a TED Talk, but they have to tell themselves if they like what they see in Ty Simpson and especially if you're getting win, that the Rams might like him at 13. You got to think about it. You got to be prepared to do whatever it takes at some point to get out of losing and start heading towards the right direction of winning.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So couldn't agree with him more because it is. Nothing is a guarantee. So. And every year you throw away. I just.

[Alan Hahn]

I argued so Friday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't know who the coach is, by the way, if you have a terrible coach, too.

[Alan Hahn]

We all know that cycle, the vicious cycle I was on. I went, you know, visited, you know, Rick and Dave at Rickleball on Friday

[Peter Rosenberg]

because you're a professional team player.

[Alan Hahn]

And we got into it about it because the two of them just act like this is just the easiest thing to do. It's not. It's easy in March, but as a fan in October, hell no. Because all you're gonna do is scream and yell about another year wasted and all this money wasted. This is what you asked for. But if you have a GM and you believe he knows what he's doing and he's starting to build a roster that looks like it could be capable. Capable and could win, you don't know what you have in a coach.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You.

[Alan Hahn]

You think he's a bad coach because it was an awful season. But this is a guy that probably walked into a situation thinking, I got this, and then realized, I don't have this, and looked around at his staff going, I don't have any experience on my staff. I gotta get guys to know what they're doing. He made a huge mistake all last season with the coaching staff. He built with him thinking he knew more than he did his approach with the media. Aaron Glenn made lots of mistakes, but the worst part is if you don't learn from him. He learned from them. At least we hope he does. And so who's to say that he doesn't make the right decisions this coming season? And they are a competitive team, but it's the same as guessing whether or not you could have the quarterback of your future with the third pick in the draft. You don't know. These are all variables. I want the constant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Larry, West Orange. Larry.

[Caller]

What up, Alan? If the jets tried to lose, they'd probably make the playoffs.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, it's funny. It's so funny.

[Caller]

They can't do anything right.

[Alan Hahn]

So funny. And it's so true. At the same Time. Right. It's so funny.

[Caller]

And so might be their best. It might be their best way to get to the play

[Alan Hahn]

is try to tank. And fate says, oh, no, they never do anything.

[Caller]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Because they never get. They like, they never get what they want. Right. So I want to lose this year. Oh, you're winning. You're winning. Yeah.

[Caller]

I'm not a Jets fan, but every August, I love their optimism.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all we got.

[Caller]

Every August is the year they're going

[Alan Hahn]

to turn it off season. The off season is the easiest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, it depends which fan you talk to.

[Alan Hahn]

But the off season is the easiest time to be a Jets fan because there's all hope, optimism, and there's also the notion of we got to lose for another season. That's all right. And then you get, like I said, you get to October, November, and you're miserable and you still have half a damn season to go. And you hate everything about being a Jets fan. And you don't want to remember that you're the one that said we should lose. And then you don't get the draft pick you want. You get somebody else. And it. Rinse, repeat, right? Rinse, repeat. So I thought.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And again, what would you do? So if next year, if this coming season, you completely end up, you know, belly up and let's call it tanking. 2 and 15.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So what do we do with Glenn now? And let's say you go get the quarterback.

[Alan Hahn]

2 and 15, he going, how do you survive?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So. So then we're getting.

[Alan Hahn]

So now you got to find a coach who wants the job, which, by the way, I told you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And a coach. A coach that's going to be suitable for the new quarterback you're drafting, which you hope.

[Alan Hahn]

But this chicken and egg thing here now, again, I think they have a gm. I think they have a gm. I really do. So far, we're going to find out. Muji has proved a lot so far, but you're absolutely right, because the biggest thing for any GM is the draft, which, you know, Joe Douglas had at times had decent drafts. But this is a big time right now for Muji, and that's what I'm curious. I'm curious to see. And the Simpson thing is a really interesting thing to follow, mainly because some of our ESPN NFL experts are pretty high on him. And our warning teams that you don't want to pass on this guy. You can't. You can't draft him and say, I'm playing him right away. That you can't do. But you shouldn't leave them on the table because you think you can do better next year. What these guys are telling me is you might not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to. Let's go to John in Mawa. Hey, John.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, how are you?

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, John.

[Caller]

Longtime Jack and I'm a fan. So what I, what I root for is not going to change anything that happens on the field. I need one of two, three, two or three things to happen. I love Ty Simpson. I would love to draft Ty Simpson this year. He is the exact same size as Brock Purdy. He's an eighth of an inch shorter than Bo Nix. He's got better mechanics than Mendoza. He's got a better arm than Mendoza. He reads defenses. He's the son of the coach. He's good. And we draft him and he needs to sit. So let him sit. And if things turn bad, I'd love to see us lose all our games next year and try again. And I'm. But I'm kidding here. I would love to. I watched a lot of Ty Simpson this year. He's got a really, really good head on the show. I really, really.

[Alan Hahn]

You're a perfect guy to ask them because a lot of the people that have called have just said they don't like them and then they don't really give you reasons why, but you like them. So I want to ask you then, how about the Georgia game, the Indiana game, especially that Georgia game. He did not look good in that game at all.

[Caller]

First of all, he was hurt towards the end of the year.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, he was. That's true.

[Caller]

He was hurt towards the end of the year. He also was sick. So he lost like £20. So if you saw him in the beginning of the year, he was, lighten it up. Like off the charts. He's got a. He's got a better arm than Mendoza, which people like. It's crazy. But he's the same size as Brock Purdy. Right? You can win with Brock Purdy. You can win with Bo Nix. I think he's probably a little bit better than Bo Nix. Would take Bonix on my team right now. And again, as Jet fan, I don't care what anyone thinks about me, about. It's an embarrassment if we went 0:17 next year and I got Dante Moore next year be just as happy. But I would love to get Simpson this year and use those three picks next year for a wide receiver, a linebacker, you know, like really use that draft capital to do something.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I completely understand it. That's a great call. And I Think you'd be happy to get Dante Moore after an 017 season? I wouldn't. Wouldn't you want, like, I don't know what Dante Moore is? Unless. So you're sure telling me that is like having an unreal season next year?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, but also, remember, even if he does have an unreal season. So you're telling me,

[Alan Hahn]

oh, God bless.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're telling me that you're going to go to Ty Simpson? We're not sure. Who knows? We can't even touch him. We have two picks in the first round. We can't use one on him. But next year, after going 0 and 17, when it's even deeper and darker, oh, we don't have a coach anymore. We're getting a new coach. We're 1000% sure on the draft that's his year, though.

[Alan Hahn]

That's my point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's never going to be that.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not. And then, like I said, now you're drafting somebody into a situation where you have to hire a coach. And I'm telling you, unless it's Arch Manning. And Arch Manning had a great year because, you know Manning, he comes from good stock. Right. You know, he's coming in and he's got a ton of support from the Manning family to make sure he is not going to fail at the NFL level. Maybe a head coach would say, I'd take that job. But this is not a franchise that is going to attract like, even Mike Tomlin. If he wanted to get back into coaching next year with all the options he's going to have, you think he's going to look at the jets and say, oh, yeah, that's where I'm going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But if you win here, you never

[Alan Hahn]

have to pay for a meal in New York City again. Well, he's Mike Tomlin. He already doesn't have to pay for a meal. Oh, he was sitting courtside at the Garden for no reason. Just came to a game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He did.

[Alan Hahn]

What day the warriors game was two Sundays ago. Last Sunday? No, because I was up doing radio, so I wasn't down by the court.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, would you. If you. If you had been near him, I would have. You would have said, hello?

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You would have said, hey, Alan Hahn.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

ESPN New York.

[Alan Hahn]

Harbaugh was at a game that I also called national radio. It was the Rockets, and I again, I was up in the radio booth, so I was not down near the court. So I. I would have gone up and said hello to Harbaugh, too. Like you, it's the right thing to do people are around, you go say hello. You're like that.

[Caller]

I'm not. No, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I drive a dog Strat.

[Alan Hahn]

You definitely do that, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I do.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the right thing to do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I generally make the contact because also, you never know what happens. Sometimes they know you from something, and then you're like, oh, and you have a little rapport. They got a little relationship. And the last time I decided not to do it, regrettably, because I thought, I'll catch him at the next thing. I'd met him before and thought, I'll meet him again. Another time. It was Kobe, two weeks before he died.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. He was right in front of us the whole game. I sat there watching him the whole game in LA. You know, the famous game, the LeBron game. The LeBron Luca game that Kobe and Gianna came to. He was greeting everybody, and my manager was like, let's go say hello.

[Alan Hahn]

LeBron hugged him, right? Yeah, yeah. During the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And my manager was like, let's go say hello to him. You should say hello. And I was like, man, he's just. He's just so in his zone right now. I just want to let him have. There'll be another time. I've interviewed him before. I'll get to see him again.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't ever think that, you know, you won't get a chance again. So it's a lesson. Let's go to Andrew in Long island or on Long island, to you and me. What's up, Andrew?

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on, Peter? How you doing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

How you doing, buddy?

[Alan Hahn]

Andrew?

[Caller]

Pretty good, thank you. I want to talk about the Giants with their draft. But before, I just want to give you two quick gambling stats. One's on the March madness. They predict 3.3 billion in bet, which will be a record, of course.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, my God.

[Caller]

And then ready. In 2025, 167 billion was almost spent on legal gambling in the country. That's the problem. I saw that on cnn. I'm like, holy crap.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Like, yeah, this could be a pandemic among young men and stuff. It's a little scary, you know, when you see that.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, it's like I said, you gotta. You gotta be careful what you do and make sure you're doing it on illegal. Illegal apps.

[Caller]

You gotta be responsible. Like when you say, don't drink and drive, be responsible when you drink.

[Alan Hahn]

Correct. Correct.

[Caller]

Same thing, but ready. He's gonna talk about the Giants now. In their first pick at pick five, they can go with Sonny Styles, if he's available, of course. And downs, I mean both might be available and they'll have a good choice to make, but either way they're going to get a blue chip player on their first pick. And I was just wondering if they make a pick later like in their second round pick, you know, a few down to try to get like a third round pick or even an early fourth round second pick. Because I noticed when they get an extra pick, they obviously have a little bit more value, but they definitely meet the needs that they need. Like they gotta address linebacker, they gotta address offensive line of course though, cornerback, wide receiver, and they get that in the first four even without making a trade. So I was just wondering what you guys thought of that in your opinion on it too.

[Alan Hahn]

I, I think Styles is the right pick there. Especially when you consider Harbaugh being like the, the, you know, he's all about building a tough front defensively. That's always been the physical defense physical kind of player. He'd be a, I mean he'd be a great fit at linebacker with what they've got up front after that. Like, honestly, I always feel like, yes, of course it's need, but I still think you go with talent best available on a lot of cases. I mean there are target, there are areas and holes you want to fill. I mean they still need where they need help at corner. They need, you know, I don't know about wide receiver though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It depends. I think it totally depends on the level of talent versus what the need is. Like it's situational because you can't always go best talent on the board if you know you really have an existing need and you don't have a need at all at the talent that's out there. I don't know. Tough man, they don't give these jobs.

[Alan Hahn]

Just keeping up line of scrimmage is always important to Harbaugh. And so just keep in mind that's going to be not just an area of starting quality depth quality that they'll probably put a lot of investment in that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's go to Matt on Long island also. What's up Matt?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up guys? How you doing?

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, man.

[Caller]

A couple quick things. First of all, that the intern didn't know any those movies is insane. I mean you could make Pulp Fiction quotes itself right out of the gate. You know, my girlfriend's a vegetarian. Pretty much makes me a vegetarian. Just keep giving the million of them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I never even use that one. The light work.

[Caller]

Couple quick things, one about the flag football in. It's funny in regards to the NFL guys maybe thinking they had a shot playing flag football, which I could completely understand. The. It's like. It's like putting, you know, women is prime, I guess. Novak Djokovic against the best pickleball player in the world. And saying play. It's kind of the best comp I could think of. And in that given moment, the pickleball player might beat Djokovic. But if you give Djokovic times, prepare for pickleball itself, he'll probably be better. Like, these guys aren't going to waste their time playing flag football.

[Alan Hahn]

But yeah, that's. That's exactly. It is. Like how much of these. Because it's. It's a lot of muscle memory and instinct that happens that when you know the rules and how to play, it's a smaller field. We know that. And there's certain things that you just can't do. There's no contact. You can't hold off. All the things that an NFL player is used to doing, just instinctually used to doing. You have to break all of those habits. And then what? Go back to the NFL and then re. You know, re. Bring those habits back. It does sound like to me, really hard to do. I give these guys. They're the flag football guys. I give them credit for saying they're insane, but I love it because their whole thing is none of this is our game. Like, just because you play in the NFL doesn't mean you're. What was the quarterback. The one quarterback said I'm better. Yeah. He said I'm better as a flag football quarterback than Patrick Mahomes.

[Caller]

Right. And can I get one quick shine?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, respect the confidence. Yeah, go ahead.

[Alan Hahn]

Why? He said it was because I know the rules.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

I know this game. He. He doesn't. So I'll be better than him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? Because it's a different game.

[Alan Hahn]

He's not saying he's better at the NFL game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's saying this is a different game. I know it better.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you got, Matt?

[Caller]

So one quick thing. I'm. I'm a huge Giants fan. It's a little bit of a piggyback on the last call.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Caller]

But the. The. I'm a huge Scaboo fan. Like me and my buddy Dylan, he was on Scaboo from the. From the get go after that huge game against Texas especially. He saw. He has that. That dog in him kind of. And when we got him in the later rounds, he called me immediately, was screaming, scottaboo like everyone else is now. But given the injury, I mean I, I think at 5, I'm, I agree with Alan, kind of what you said. I think it's more of a talent, talent question. And, and as opposed to, you know, what we need. I, I love Jeremiah Love here and I don't, you don't know how I, I, I don't know the scatter boost, health and all that stuff. So I mean Jeremiah love or trade back. I'm not sold on Caleb downs in terms of the draft positioning. Like, yeah, great running back has shown to make a lot more impact than great safeties in generally speaking, like there's much more available options of great running back throughout history. Like there's, when you talk about best safeties of all time, you got Ed Reed, Ronnie Lott, Paul Malu. You can name seven hall of Famers, right, that are potential hall of Famers right now that are running backs. I can't name seven safeties that are hall of Famers right now.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I mean again, when you think of Harbaugh though, you certainly think about defenses that are mostly line of scrimmage, but also his team's, you know, linebackers, safeties, like that's, it's everywhere, hard hitting players, right. So that's big. And also of course the IQ players at safety. But I mean when you say IQ

[Peter Rosenberg]

players, Scatter boo is the first guy that comes to mind.

[Alan Hahn]

But I still think scatter is going to be part of what they do going forward, especially how close he is to the quarterback.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're not the biggest scatter boo if and we still haven't gotten to his boo boo from the weekend. But the biggest scatter boo if to me is, is that this is not a guy who is a guaranteed NFL success story. He's a guy who because of his grit and determination was excelling. The worrisome part is, is just if he's short shelf life, he's, well, if he's affected, like I don't know that that guy has so much extra talent that he could have afforded to lose 20% of what his legs can give him. That's my concern.

[Alan Hahn]

We're going to find that out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we're going to find out.

[Alan Hahn]

We're going to start having the OTAs and workouts and he's going to be part of it. He said that's what he wanted to do and he'd be back on the field, which is remarkable. But I think their running back room is pretty good. They still have Tyrone Tracy, right? He's still on the team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tyrone Tracy, I think, is very good.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, they just underappreciated.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So they still have a good running back room. But again, is if Love feels like a generational player, do they take another running back that high in the draft?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's. That's.

[Alan Hahn]

That's knowing that what it's going to cost you in about three years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, listen, I got to give Anthony Pusa credit. Credit, because he nailed it. When the Cam Scatter Boost story started moving around over the weekend, that during, like, some sort of stream he joked about, or maybe some people couldn't tell whether or not he was joking, he said he didn't believe in cte. And then the part where that let me know he was joking was then he also said he doesn't believe in asthma. And he's like, come on. I mean, just breathe. Which, by the way, oddly enough, I saw another person on the Internet make that joke last week, which makes me feel like it's not coincidence. Like someone's copycatting jokes here.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Or maybe it's. That's exactly what it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Anthony. So Don was red hot in our text.

[Alan Hahn]

Red hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, he was ready to cut Scatterbill.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. No, no, literally, he cut his fat ass.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was right. Honestly, he was right there about Scatter, but with the CTE thing, he was disgusted by it. And then Anthony, you know, he said. I said, oh, that's a big take for Monday. And Anthony jumped in the text and said he will 100% have apologized by the time we get on the air on Monday.

[Alan Hahn]

Nailed it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know Anthony would be responding with his apology within, like, two hours. I didn't know what I was saying. I'm joking. That's by. And the apology came.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, if you watched it, it does seem like he was being silly.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, he was. He was like. Like when you mess around your boys and you're just, like, trying to one up the other one with a one line, and he's just laughing even though you're not being serious. But you don't realize, oh, this is being recorded, being consumed. And out of context, no one realizes that we're just effing around. Like, we're not really being.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And they're gonna have to figure this out because he streams all the time.

[Alan Hahn]

All the time. Like, listen, he did drink out of his own shoe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We remember that.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's just be clear for a second, guys. Cam, if hopefully he has a long, fruitful NFL career.

[Alan Hahn]

Sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And if he does that here in New York. This is not going to be the last time that he has to apologize for saying something yo, yo on a stream. Probably because he's not. With respect, I say this completely respectfully. And you know, because I'm saying it's respectful. He's not a rocket scientist. Okay. He's a hard hitting fullback and he likes to go on stream and talk a lot of yin yang. So we're gonna be here again. I'm. I'm literally. I'm guaranteeing it.

[Alan Hahn]

When do we get.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So just prepare for it.

[Alan Hahn]

When do we get to a point where we recognize. Not that you want to excuse it because look, you still have to be accountable and responsible as a human being. But there are certain people that you know he's not. Right.

[Caller]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's not being. And it's not serious.

[Alan Hahn]

So when they do stuff, it's. Instead of getting mad, you just go, he's not right.

[Caller]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

And you know he's gotta apologize because like I said, it doesn't mean you accept it. You can't just say, oh, that's just Cam. No, it's still not right. He's got eventually own it. But it's also. Let's not go crazy and think he really believes what he's saying. That's the part I think it all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It will all his influence can't be

[Alan Hahn]

that big that other people are going, I agree with Cam. He knows what he's doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The guy who drank from his shoe.

[Alan Hahn]

Exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So listen, I think it's all about how far you go. This was a stupid thing to say. I listen, it's a football player joking about cte. Is it great?

[Alan Hahn]

No, it's not bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But it's get up from a bull. Let's just hope. Someone should just tell him like, hey, dude, I know that he said he doesn't know how long his football career will last and the streaming thing is going to be lucrative for him. You'll have a whole lifetime to stream. Bro. I know you want to take advantage of the moment.

[Alan Hahn]

It's really amazing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But you're a New York Giant. Dude.

[Alan Hahn]

This is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would just focus on this being a New York Giant thing. Dude, you are loved by the fan base here. You're a really great player. But as I mentioned, he's talented. He's not so talented that he can just do whatever he wants. He has to work his tail off to be this guy. Focus on getting yourself back together. The streaming time will come, I promise. You got plenty of time to stream 1-800-919-3776 more your calls. We still haven't got a Knicks on, which we got to get to. Big night for them last night. Sanjan Rosenberg, ESPN New York I'm big on having the right game plan on the ice and at home, which is why I use Viking Pest Control myself. As the pest control provider and proud partner of the New Jersey Devils, Viking has been protecting homes for over 45 years with expert pest control service and solutions tailored just for you. From ants and cockroaches to rodents, stinging insects and backyard mosquitoes, Viking keeps pest out of your house and out of the place. Play Bundle pest control with mosquito services and save big one call one company. Total peace of mind. Visit vikingpest.com Viking Pest Control Protecting your

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[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcast. Walking on a drizzly day in New York City down in Soho with this song. Guys on YouTube can't hear this, but it's Anita Baker.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it feels good too.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Feels really nice.

[Alan Hahn]

It's just perfect, right, for this weather. Go home, cozy up, you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know what else is perfect for this, brother? Another song.

[Alan Hahn]

This is and We're Almost There by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it. Tell me it. Tell me it doesn't feel like springtime baseball weather here, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Who's Batter up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Remember a couple weeks ago we were talking about being on the roof and hanging out. Weather's here.

[Alan Hahn]

That ended quickly. When the next time we're going to have anything near roof potential weather?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, it's not good.

[Alan Hahn]

How we look? Oh, Thursday it's gonna be 67, but rain. No, no, no. Over the weekend the high is gonna be 43 or 49. Take your pick. Next week, more clouds, high of 60 or 53.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Dude, gonna end up. I promise you we're gonna be in mid April before it's good. Mid April.

[Alan Hahn]

There's still evidence of snow in my neighborhood in certain areas. Dude, it's been evidence like a little bit, but it's still.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This has been so trash. Let's just be. I mean, this has been terrible. And here we are now in spring into late March.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it is just nowhere near.

[Alan Hahn]

Still got the puffer, still got to wear it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is not what you want, folks. It is not what you want.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't love it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What you do want, though, if you're a Knicks fan, is to start winning, beating bad teams like the Wizards by a million points. And that's exactly what they did yesterday.

[Alan Hahn]

32. You know, it's. By the way, listen to this one. It's the eighth time this season they've beaten a team by 30 or more points. Eighth time. No team in Nick's history has ever done it eight times. The team that did it seven Times. You might have heard of that one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Alan Hahn]

That had, like, Clyde and Willis and Debusscher. That's the team that won the 1970 championship. They're pretty good. Like is. And I don't want to say it's a sign of how good the Knicks are. I almost want to say it's a sign how bad the NBA is. Eight times you beat a team by 30 or more. It's insane. I think it's 12 times they've beaten teams by 25 or more.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's pretty impressive stuff, man.

[Alan Hahn]

But that's what they do when they're on. They can make a joke of it. And they did the colic thing at the end of the game again. I know everybody was more invested in St. John's in a tournament last night. I'm not going to pretend anybody was like, I can't wait to watch Knicks Wizards tonight. So trust me, I get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a tough one to.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. But they were running away with it in the fourth quarter as that you're supposed to do. And so the bench comes in. Tyler Kohlik comes in the game with, like, five minutes to go, and he's just lighting it up. Three upon three upon three, and the place is going ballistic. He had 42 points in the G League game earlier in the day. And then he walks out on the Garden Court and drops another 1153 point day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is happening?

[Alan Hahn]

It's just so. It was so bizarre.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What a crazy thing.

[Alan Hahn]

But again, it's the Wizards. They're not very good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not. Oh, that's how you're going with it? They're going with.

[Alan Hahn]

They're not very good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is.

[Alan Hahn]

They don't do basketball well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is quite the description that you just gave.

[Alan Hahn]

No one scored 83, though. So they're getting better at that, you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, if you could hold. So if you can hold the best player to less than 80, think under

[Alan Hahn]

80 is the way to go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the way you want to go.

[Alan Hahn]

So the Knicks record.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Give me. Give me the stats.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, this one really stood out to me because we do amplify losses. And even when they've been winning lately, we've been amplifying what doesn't. What we don't like about the winning so much winning that we are criticizing the things we don't like about the winning. This is where we are now, March of 2019. You would be so disgusted. But here we are, first 32 games of the season. The Knicks went 23 and nine. That's the third best record in the league through the first 32 games. So they had a nice start to the season. Then you remember after the NBA cup, they hit a wall. Started New Year's Eve, they lost a tough game in San Antonio where they actually scored a ton of points. But Justin Champagne had like 11 threes he couldn't miss. I remember they lose that game. So from New Year's Eve, for the next 11 games, they lost nine of them. So they went two and nine. Bad stretch, 11 games, bad stretch. Since then, 22, seven, which is the second best record in the league over that stretch. So an 11 game tailspin, or whatever you want to call it is the difference of a season that. I mean, would they be higher in the standings than third, fifth best record. Just an 11, just that little stretch. And again, it's that post NBA Cup. Isn't that just malaise?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just can't believe that's actually a thing.

[Alan Hahn]

It really is though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because if you not that much more basketball, how can you.

[Alan Hahn]

But it was the travel, it was the fact that they had no breaks, no time off, and the intensity of that game, believe it or not, when you're like trying to play for something and you give everything you got and the next day you're like, hey now, after that celebration where you guys were out all night, like having fun celebrating, now we're gonna go to Indiana and play a game on the road.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know. And I.

[Alan Hahn]

And they were just like. And they were just in this daze they couldn't get out of. I watched it happen. Like all of a sudden they just had no gear. And then they found their way out of it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It sounds ridiculous, but the stats back it up.

[Alan Hahn]

You can't deny it. So it's a real thing. So also to point out that over Those last. This 22 and 7 run that they're on right now is the fact that they have the number one defense in the league in that stretch. They now have moved into a place where their offense is third, their defense is fifth, net rating is fifth. When you're top five in those three categories, you're generally considered an elite team. But it's amazing. I give you all these numbers and yet all of us who have watched the Knicks lately are like, yeah, but. Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah, but it's sort of been the feeling, like the numbers tell

[Alan Hahn]

you this is a really good team, but the eye test tells you there's things about this team that I just don't know if I can believe in them being a team that's there at the end. I don't know if it's the fact that it's too close to us and we're not used to this and we're just looking for things to find wrong or that the numbers, for some reason this year can't be trusted. I don't know what to make of it, but that's where they are. And so they're now in a place because the Celtics lost last night to the Timberwolves and Tatum had a rough game overall. He had a good third quarter, but mostly struggled. And with the Boston loss, the Knicks are now a half game back of second. It's basically just in the loss column. And they play the Pelicans. Tomorrow finishes the seven game stretch of teams with a losing record. If they win that game, they will now move into a virtual tie for second. The next game for Boston is Wednesday against the Oklahoma City Thunder, which we all know is not an easy game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'd say not if they lose that game.

[Alan Hahn]

The Knicks now hold second place in the East. Nobody saw that coming. And so it's, it's second place is still sort of there. It's still a reality that they could get the second seed. And who knows what Boston, you know, is going to look like because they've got some tough games to play. And then the two teams play each other. The Knicks own the tiebreaker already. No matter what happens when they play each other on April 8, if the Celtics win, it still doesn't matter. The Knicks own the tiebreaker. So if they finish with the same record, the Knicks would get second place in the East.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And yet you still have the feeling for a lot of fans and I talked about this with fans over the weekend, that watching them the last few weeks, you don't feel great, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Because the starts have been a little soft. They have played some teams that are weak and they have just basically out talented. They out talented the Nets on Friday night. They didn't do the Nets, God bless them, played their hearts out in that game, gave it all they had and they still weren't good enough to beat a Knicks team. That is, Dom was batted the bunny for most of the night. It was just sitting there, just smacking him around. And then it's like, all right, we got to finally put this team away. And even then they left the door open and the Nets fumbled away an opportunity to win the game. And they were crushed losing that game. And the Knicks were sort of like walked off the court like, yeah, that was ugly. But hey, we got the win. Like, it was almost like they're. They are taking care of business, but it isn't at the level they should be. And even Mitchell Robinson's like. Like, we've got to have a better approach than this. We gotta be better than this. Of course they play the Wizards. Their approach was right. And they blew him off the. Blew him off the court.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, late second quarter for the blow. New Orleans off the court tomorrow, too.

[Alan Hahn]

New Orleans is a sneaky good team with a bad record, but, yeah, I completely agree.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What do you think the line is tomorrow? I'll tell you, but what do you think?

[Alan Hahn]

I'm going ten and a half. No, not that high.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not that high.

[Alan Hahn]

I might go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm gonna tell you.

[Alan Hahn]

Six and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm going seven and a half. Give me nine and a half.

[Alan Hahn]

What do you got?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'm gonna tell you right now. And I'm gonna be at this.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm not looking.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know how they perform when I'm in the building, too. They care.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Knicks are. Do not have a line.

[Alan Hahn]

We don't have a line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not on espn. I don't see a line. That's strange.

[Alan Hahn]

Where else can we find a line?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I see today's lines.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no lines up for tomorrow. I'm sure there is a line on a betting website on FanDuel, for example. FanDuel.com local.

[Alan Hahn]

That would be the place to go. Injuries, I'm guessing might have something to do with it. They have not released the injury report yet. That's why.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, it's a great time, though, for me to tell you guys that ESPN New York is teaming up with Calandra's Bakery to give away a pair of tickets to see the Knicks take on Charlotte on Sunday, April 12. Super easy to enter. Listen up, Jersey. Just stop by Calandra's Bakery, 234 Bloomfield Ave. In Caldwell, New Jersey, before April 7 to enter in person. It's all brought to you by Calandra's Bakery in Caldwell, home of fresh bread, classic Italian pastries. Trust me, the tiramisu is incredible. And traditions baked daily. I'm excited. I haven't been to a Knicks game all year.

[Alan Hahn]

Where are you sitting?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sitting on 11 0. Like. Like. Looks like 15 rows off the floor. And the 107 or something.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, when are you getting there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I want to get there as early as possible after here because we. We have tickets to the Delta Club.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I want to get there as quickly as I can.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. You're gonna hit your boy up when you get in the building?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I will hit you.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Oh, so she's your boy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can you. Will you come meet us at the Delta Club?

[Alan Hahn]

I am.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay. No, God bless.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. I'm on the court telling on for pre game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God bless.

[Alan Hahn]

As you know, I'll be leaving the show at. As I usually do a pre tape.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Then at 7, we open the pregame show. I'll be on the court for that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And then where do you go? I love. Like a 15 minutes before I got to do. I do a hit for the game broadcast after introductions.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So where do you go?

[Alan Hahn]

I'll be right there by the Delta Club.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the Delta Club.

[Alan Hahn]

The studio. Little studio Right by the Delta Club.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a studio right by the Delta Club. Well, I'm thinking. I'll tell you. Can I tell you the truth? You know your way around this very well for people, by the way, for the average person. Normies like us. Not Alan, because he's an insider.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm a worker.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've only been to the Delta Club years ago when I had a friend who had a plug.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How would you describe the Delta Club? It's like the invite only.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. It's like a VIP. It's the coaches club at MetLife. It's the same thing. It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but it's not.

[Alan Hahn]

It's. It's a ticket experience. It's part of a ticket that you would get. It's a. It's the ability to go into, like, a back area, but it's food.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But they keep the Delta Club experience. Like, for example, I say this respectfully because, you know, I love Barclays and I have a great time there. Barclays has that club experience that's like 500 people.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, it's huge.

[Alan Hahn]

Everybody gets to go in.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everybody goes in there. And the real clubs at the Barclays center are the smaller clubs and the little restaurant they have right off the court.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes. Which is really nice. Which is great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's fantastic. It's a carbone menu. It's like. That's a. But they have. But their club is more like. Grab hot dogs, pay for beers at the bar.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Delta Club. I don't know what they max out the people at, but it's not a lot.

[Alan Hahn]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it's free. Everything.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it's very high.

[Alan Hahn]

You're gonna see people and there's gonna be people. There's people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I saw Woody Allen in there once. Like, it's. It's where the people are, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So former Knicks all over the place.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So the question is, if I. I'm gonna leave here at 6:58. I'm gonna get to the garden at 7:15. I still think I'm gonna go there first and probably miss the first 10 minutes of the game.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, that's not a bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right? Yeah, I got to.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, you'll be fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then I'll go back at halftime.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. So you go in. It's the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the horn. It's the. What are they called? The Pelicans are not sick.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it is the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the Hornets.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the Jazz. It's the New Orleans Jazz.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is the Bobcats. I don't know. The pel.

[Alan Hahn]

Pete Maravich is putting. I put on a show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Alan Hahn]

I made it here for a Ranger game. Getting off the show, not missing a minute. So you could probably make Delta Club get something to eat before the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can still basically get it because the game will tip at, like, 7:35.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Yeah. Give me a heads up once you get up the escalator.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right.

[Alan Hahn]

And I'll see if I can find you before I got to do my hit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go. God. Blah.

[Alan Hahn]

You know what I mean? And then we'll see where you're sitting. We might be near. Near each other.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God bless.

[Alan Hahn]

Everybody loves this. They can't wait.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because everyone's going to be a part of this.

[Alan Hahn]

They're so excited that we're going to meet up at the Delta Club.

[Peter Rosenberg]

God bless. We got to work out our plans, folks.

[Caller]

You got the job, dad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that drop is going to be dangerous. I don't even want to hold on, Edgar. And White Plains. What's up, Edgar?

[Caller]

I know I'm being that, but what's. What's tiramisu? I've never heard it referred to as tiramisu.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tiramisu made it sound Japanese. Tiramisu.

[Caller]

That sounds. Didn't say that. You said tiramisu. And I said, what is this Japanese thing he's talking about? Then I hear Calandra's Bakery, and I go, oh, he's talking about tiramisu.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he was, you know, Peter all about himself. So it's tiramisu.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, exactly. It's not. It's not Terry Yusu.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, exactly.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's tiramisu.

[Alan Hahn]

Tiramisu.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Edgar, are you an Italian gentleman?

[Caller]

I am not, but I didn't marry an Italian woman.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How would she.

[Alan Hahn]

Italian adjacent.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Exactly. So, like, Anthony, I could ask you this too. How do Italians actually say it?

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I'd say tiramisu.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tiramisu.

[Alan Hahn]

You had that emphasis on the me

[Peter Rosenberg]

on the wrong syllable. Tiramisu. But the thing is, Edgar's right. He's being that guy. But he is right. But like, can we just for a second, let's, let's not act like tiramisu sounds like an Italian word. It sounds more Japanese than Italian to me, who speaks neither language. Let's not pretend like that sounds Italian. Where did it come from?

[Alan Hahn]

Italy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want to. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know if you agree with me, but like I do feel like sometimes weather dictates music. Oh yeah. And there's certain days where you just know what mix to go to. And this today felt like Anita Baker. Like if you ask what's the weather

[Peter Rosenberg]

like Anita Baker, It's Anita Baker outside.

[Alan Hahn]

Can I tell you what like smoky

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anita Baker is not like a big, a big part of my life should be. I'm not, I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's.

[Alan Hahn]

You think Natalie like that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't. I don't know if Natalie knows Anita Baker at all.

[Alan Hahn]

If you took Anita Baker and some of her videos of Manhattan Skyline that she can get that she takes. Oh, I like those two together, bud. You know people fall asleep to these videos on YouTube, right? They get millions of views and all it is is just Manhattan skyline and music.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wonder if my favorite she'd make

[Alan Hahn]

so much money just doing that. Yeah, listen, Sundays between Sad Day and Anita Bake.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, do you guys see my.

[Alan Hahn]

That's why Jake and I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you see my post? Did you see my post yesterday?

[Alan Hahn]

No, which one?

[Caller]

Sorry about that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I posted I'm Gonna Let yout Finish, but Swimming by Mac Miller's is one of the greatest Sunday morning albums of all time. What's your Favorite.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And obviously Sade was right. Obviously came up right away.

[Alan Hahn]

Which Sade? Sweetest Taboo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't remember which album.

[Alan Hahn]

Or Pearls.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just saw her name pop up quickly in the responses.

[Alan Hahn]

Pearls. Pearls.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold on.

[Alan Hahn]

Forget it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is how washed I am when it comes to Anita Baker. Anita Baker. Because I really. I didn't grow up in a household where anyone's playing Anita Baker. She's really. What? She's early mid-80s at her Vegas.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, mid late 87. Yeah, she's more like that. What Rapture was the album. Was that the album?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So mid-88. That was 86.

[Alan Hahn]

Heard she's high maintenance, too.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anita.

[Alan Hahn]

Her. She's difficult to deal with. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, divas are.

[Alan Hahn]

Divas are divas. Yeah, Divas are supposed to diva. She can sing, though. I said, you got a voice like that, you could do whatever you want.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but I know this as a hip hop sample before I even really knew the song.

[Alan Hahn]

Really Caught up in a raptor. Yeah. Sound. Sound quality is on point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm doing my best here. It's from the phone. It's from YouTube. But when the beat comes. Hold on.

[Alan Hahn]

Is this the song you're talking about? Oh, I like that. Oh, and then that's another song.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What is the.

[Alan Hahn]

That. That's. That's another 80s song. It's the Juicy. No, no, it's not juicy. No, no, no. That.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you want to get the real one. So, you know, I don't just butcher it. It's understandable. Smooth by Rascast.

[Alan Hahn]

Make me happy. That's what that song is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm living in the fast life.

[Alan Hahn]

No, no, no, no. No mixing up songs. No, that's. That's a different. What you just did. That's a sample from another R B. So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, shout out to Rascast. He has an album. But that was. I was really. I have to admit it.

[Alan Hahn]

Send me that. We're.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Have Jacob pull it up for you, too. The samples. The samples.

[Alan Hahn]

I see the samples now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's Anita. No, the only one that it lists is Anita Baker. It's caught up in the Rapture.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, But a great tune.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, yeah, put that in the system. Put that in the system, Jacob, so we can hear it properly. Not nasty from my phone. I'll take a couple calls here before we get to E M. We got Danny on the island. What's up, Danny?

[Caller]

I was in charge of blasting music in the lobby this morning. What was a little trifecta of Rainy Days and Mondays by Karen Carpenter. That'll work.

[Alan Hahn]

That'll work.

[Caller]

Monday and have you ever seen the rain? I thought that was in three very weather appropriate songs.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Alan Hahn]

How about Orange Juice Jones?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Standing in the ring. Yeah.

[Caller]

Quick note. If Mike Tomlin was at any sporting event this weekend, it would have been at the SEC Gymnastics Championship where his daughter is a top level D1 athlete on the Georgia team.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Caller]

I was flipping as I was burning up my remote control. I'm flipping channels through all these things yesterday and as I flipped through something, I hear Tomlin. So I flip back and it's Tomlin's daughter on the balance beam. There you go.

[Alan Hahn]

There you go.

[Caller]

So good for my comma.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Now, as far as the aforementioned quarterback, you know the jets, the primary goal is to get a quarterback. And this guy Simpson's rank or his rating wherever he should be picked will be determined by what other people think. If nobody wants him, then the jets might get him with the second round, second pick. But the Steelers, now I'm already done with a rise. He's a rising again and I just want him off the team now because we can't put up with this nonsense. And what's the point of bringing him back for another year? So you drafted Will Howard last year. He sat for a year. Now you could put him in a starting role and you can. Castiles could get Simpson. And now if that guy, if Howard doesn't work out, you have Simpson. And plus Simpson would have had the luxury of sitting for a year and learning in a stable organization, you know, and maybe maybe be a quarter because the jets cannot possibly be trusted to take that quarterback and drop him in the starting lineup in the middle of the season on a bad team. If you look at the team the Steelers have and they bring a rookie quarterback in, it kind of reminds me of what Ben Roltersburg has stepped into in 2003. You had it. You had a functioning high level offense and you just asked the quarterback to throw 20 pass a game and had the ball off, which is what you know our defensive keepers in the game. So Simpson would be a great. That to me, what I'm reading about will be a great plan for the Steelers. It's the great draft. Simpson do his ass down. If Will Howard ends up being a quarterback, well then you have, you can trade Simpson. You have, you basically have two people that could possibly either one end up being the franchise. But the jets have to get that quarterback they cannot be planning on. Let's do this this year and then next year we'll do this. And speaking of the Jets, I'm wandering through my son's neighbor in South Carolina. Everyone's got the nice mailboxes 100 yards away from the house and a lot, a lot of Gamecock banners hanging. All of a sudden there's one down Jets. The guy's got a New York Jet batting hanging from his thing in Lexington, South Carolina. I wanted to knock on the door. They do. What are you doing? You broke free. You could have been a Gamecock fan. You could be Atlanta. You're not too far from Atlanta. You got the Jet banner in the middle of the South. I'm like, God, being a fan is such, it's such a disease. It really is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know it can be. I mean, you lucked out. I go Danny lucked out with the Steelers. But yeah, for a lot of other

[Alan Hahn]

sounds like he's going through it now trying to find a quarterback.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's not always easy, folks.

[Alan Hahn]

But he's right about the draft and we all know your value of a quarterback is not based on his ability or his talent or any of that stuff. It's based on need and desperation. And a guy that people say has second round talent could still be a first round pick if there's enough teams that need a quarterback that's right. And are willing to make that move. And if you find out that the Rams want to draft the next quarterback right. Whenever Stafford retires that if the Steelers are just want to keep stacking like you got to, then say to yourself as a Jets, are we willing to let this guy go because we think that's too high to draft him even though we really like him. It's all based on need, not on what you should be as a draft pick.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that's why we see people's draft stock change throughout the off season. What they are in February is not what they are in.

[Alan Hahn]

That is true in April. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter

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