Hour 3: NFL Expectations

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast: Hour 3 – NFL Expectations Summary

Episode Information
Title: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Episode: Hour 3: NFL Expectations
Release Date: August 7, 2025

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Introduction and Banter
The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter between the hosts, Don Hahn and Peter Rosenberg, discussing personal preferences and favorite movies. Peter passionately declares New Jack City as his favorite film, sparking a humorous exchange about its significance and the actors involved. This segment sets a relaxed and engaging tone for the episode.

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Main Discussion: NFL Predictions and Team Analyses

Giants vs. Commanders Week 1 Showdown
The primary focus centers on NFL expectations, specifically predicting the outcome of the New York Giants versus the Washington Commanders in Week 1.

• Peter Rosenberg's Prediction:
  "I’m getting more confident that the Giants will win Week 1 against the Commanders... the Giants have a vastly improved defense, and Washington is facing a Terry McLaurin situation."
  (04:03)

• Don Hahn's Counterpoints:
  Don challenges Peter’s prediction, emphasizing Washington's strengths and the potential for Terry McLaurin to return to form. He states, "Terry's gonna be playing... both sides feel like they’re going to get this done."
  (04:27)

Key Factors Discussed:

1. Player Performance:

   • Russell Wilson: Don mentions that Russell Wilson is expected to be fresh and potentially impactful early in the season.
     (04:12)

   • Terry McLaurin: Concerns about McLaurin’s availability and performance, with Don highlighting his critical role in Washington’s offense.
     (05:09)

2. Team Dynamics:

   • Giants' Defense: Peter points out the Giants' improved defensive lineup as a significant advantage.
     (04:27)

   • Washington's Running Game: Don acknowledges Washington's underrated running back room but notes recent additions like Laramie Tunsil may bolster their offensive efforts.
     (06:14)

3. Historical Performance and Future Outlook:

   • Giants’ Recent Games: Don analyzes the Giants' past performances, such as their victories over Minnesota and Detroit, contrasting them with their loss to Philadelphia.
     (09:03)

   • Washington’s Potential Regression: The discussion touches on Washington’s over/under win expectations, with Don estimating it at 9.5 wins, suggesting a possible regression from their NFC Championship appearance.
     (10:42)

Betting Lines and Win Predictions:
Peter and Don delve into the betting odds, debating Washington's over/under being set at 9 and a half wins, which Peter argues is optimistic given their starting schedule.

• Peter's Stance:
  "Have a chance they’re picking number two... but the Giants over under is five and a half for wins this year."
  (11:50)

• Don's Analysis:
  Don counters by discussing Washington’s capabilities despite the optimistic lines, asserting that the team may not regress as much as the odds suggest.
  (12:04)

Overall NFL Expectations:
The hosts explore broader NFL trends, including changes in team strategies, player performances, and potential upsets throughout the season. They emphasize the unpredictability of Week 1 and the importance of key players returning to form.

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Callers and Host Interactions

Throughout the episode, callers such as Anthony Pusick and Ty Butler engage with the hosts, posing questions and sharing insights about NFL teams, player performances, and personal anecdotes related to the sport. These interactions add depth to the discussion, allowing for diverse perspectives on the NFL landscape.

• Ty Butler's Input:
  Ty shares his thoughts on the Jets' prospects, highlighting their potential to surprise teams despite a challenging schedule.
  (43:06)

• Anthony Pusick's Contributions:
  Anthony discusses team dynamics and player expectations, offering a critical view on Washington's offensive strategies.
  (06:14)

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Social Media and Celebrity Culture Discussion

In a shift from sports talk, the hosts delve into the peculiarities of social media behavior following a celebrity's death. Don and Peter critique the tendency to post photos and celebrate deceased individuals online, questioning the authenticity and motivations behind such actions.

• Don's Perspective:
  "It's some black mirror stuff... We have lost sight of what things are."
  (24:25)

• Peter's Agreement:
  "Things are, I think, validation... everything."
  (24:28)

This segment provides a thoughtful commentary on modern social media practices, contrasting it with the episode's earlier sports-centric discussions.

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Closing Remarks and Final Banter

As the episode wraps up, the hosts continue their engaging banter, reflecting on personal experiences, favorite moments, and teasing future topics. They maintain a balance between humor and insightful commentary, leaving listeners with a sense of camaraderie and anticipation for upcoming episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• "The Giants come in, vastly improved defense." — Peter Rosenberg (04:03)

• "Terry's gonna be playing. So this whole thing is done on this idea..." — Don Hahn (06:21)

• "People do anything to go viral, just even in death." — Don Hahn (25:26)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, listeners are treated to an in-depth analysis of NFL expectations, particularly focusing on the Giants versus Commanders Week 1 matchup. The hosts provide balanced perspectives, enriched by engaging interactions with callers and occasional detours into broader cultural topics. With a blend of sports expertise and personable dialogue, this episode serves as a comprehensive guide for fans looking to navigate the upcoming NFL season.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I can't do that.

[Don Hahn]

You want. You won't break even on a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not doing it. Not today.

[Don Hahn]

Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even like cupcakes. I'm not big on sweets to begin with.

[Don Hahn]

That's not your heart. That's not your hard temptation. What's the hard part for you? What's hard for you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Temptations will probably just be like fried food, fried chicken.

[Don Hahn]

Really?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go over to grandma's house.

[Don Hahn]

We're talking a lot about race today. Yeah, this is. My man just said, oh, you know me. It's gotta be the chicken.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That fried chicken. Big Mac and cheese.

[Don Hahn]

They be calling you, man.

[Ty Butler]

It be calling me. It'd be calling me.

[Don Hahn]

Come on, buddy. Come on, buddy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, I've got.

[Don Hahn]

This is really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo. That's my favorite movie of all time. New Jack City.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, one of the better movies.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Favorite of all times. A bit much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on. Who are you to judge my favorite movie of all?

[Don Hahn]

You know, that's a bit. But, like, hold on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's my personal preference.

[Don Hahn]

I love New Jack City. All right? I've seen it a thousand times. I've been. I've literally been a fan of it since before you were born. Literally. But. But the part. But that teacher you killed.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was my mother.

[Ty Butler]

That was my mother.

[Don Hahn]

Judd Nelson can't be in your favorite movie, bro. And ice tea of that era. This isn't today's iced tea. That was ice tea. Had literally. He walked out of the acting class onto the set. He was like, I still have my notes in my hand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wesley Snipes, though. See, I want it to be. And we got to get to sports. I want it to be growing up. This sounds crazy. I wanted to be in that mob life.

[Don Hahn]

I'm surprised it didn't work for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aspirations.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. You come off as someone who would have fared really well in the gangster space. I'm surprised you ended up being a sports talk radio nerd instead. Who, according to Rock, who's the guy who calls you Urkel?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Eddie and Rocklin.

[Don Hahn]

To Eddie and Rocklin. You're a long ways away.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's how I fell in love with General Hospital. A mob show.

[Don Hahn]

I don't have time to find out what you mean by that, but I am curious. General Hospital's a mob show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It is. The foundation of the show is mob Sonny Corinthos.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's how I got into it.

[Don Hahn]

That's the origin story of General Hospital.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You guys laugh at me. I'm watching soap operas.

[Don Hahn]

But really it's a gangster show is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's now deviated from that. Like, significantly deviated from it. But at its core.

[Don Hahn]

You know what always weirded me out about. About the soaps? They always feel like every scene feels like the music and mood is like dark. Like everything's dark on a soap opera. It's so rarely light. Like actually feels like authentically light. It's. You know what I'm saying?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ironically, there's a guiding light show.

[Don Hahn]

I'm aware. All right, so you had a question for you, Sports Quay. We're into the callers. Some of the all Stars on the line. You said you had a sports question for me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, so day by day I'm getting more confident and it's not really a hot take, but in my assertion that the Giants will win Week 1 against the Commanders, I think it's the perfect confluence of events. Russell Wilson, freshest he'll be all season. You, you look at me a certain way. I'm not expecting him to be great, but that's the freshest Russell Wilson is going to be all season.

[Don Hahn]

Great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Giants should have beaten the Commanders twice last year. Historically, they own them. Week one, we know it's the toughest week to bet because you just have no idea what's going to happen. It's like the most anything can happen on the schedule.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it's barely. It's barely football.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So the Giants come in, vastly improved defense. The Commanders be on the lookout for like over exceeded expectations hangover. And now you've got this Terry McLaurin situation. So I'm feeling better about my prediction that the Giants are going to upset your Washington team in week one. And then I'm driving in, or wasn't driving in, but I was Driving earlier today, listening to Barton Carlin and my man Harry Douglas was on the show and he was asked this question. Which team could take a step back this year?

[Don Hahn]

A team that actually could fall off, in my opinion, could be the Washington Commanders because of the Terry McLaurin situation. This is a team that was sixth on third downs. They were the number one fourth down conversion team in the NFL. They went 20 of 23. So if I'm an offensive coordinator and I'm Cliff Peensbury, do I feel confident going forward on fourth down if I don't have my number one wide receiver? Better yet, look at that roster and you say to yourself, who on that roster, from a receiver standpoint, can do the things that Terry McLaurin did for us a season ago or could do the things that Terry McLaurin has done his entire career being in Washington, playing with multiple quarterbacks, on and on and on Again, he's been the most consistent and the most constant for that organization, especially one that wasn't too sought out prior to last season. And I would also say this. There's already a lot that Jaden Daniels has to make up for when it comes to Washington. All the deficiencies. Last year, he was the leading rusher. He had 891 yards rushing. He led the Washington Commanders. That football team was 30th stopping run last season. You want to know who made up for those deficiencies? Jaden Daniels. So now to ask him to make up for that deficiency and not having a number one wide receiver, I don't think that's right for the Washington Commander.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think they can be had week one.

[Don Hahn]

Well, all right. There's so many ways for me to break down this horrible, horrible take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, coming at Harry Douglas. I love it.

[Don Hahn]

It's a bad take. It's a bad take. Number one, Terry's gonna be playing. So this whole thing is done on this idea of like, what are you gonna do without Terry McLaren? You won't. You won't be doing without Terry McLaren. I'm gonna go with the report from our colleague Diana Rossini just two days ago saying both sides really seem to feel like they're going to get this done. It's just not done yet. So I believe it will get done. You know, people who are serious about sitting out, in my opinion, and really might not come back, they don't show up to camp to like, take pictures with fans and walk around. I don't. I see this getting worked out. So that's my number one. Number two, the running, the Football thing. I do think they have one of the most underrated running back rooms in the. In the sport. But there was a problem last year, however. They went out and got a guy. There's this Laramie Tunsil character that they added to the left side. They're going to be a better team running the football. Brian Robinson underrated my opinion put the ball on the ground a couple times and there was a lot about that. Austin Eckler still had more in the tank that the people haven't really seen that much. And why are we acting as if Debo is just going to stink? He's not. We've decided last year so we decided it won't. It couldn't be different in Washington.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not a fat shamer, but the dude looks fat. He showed up to camp like put on. Put on some weight. You looking like Jock Peterson. Jock Peterson, my man Jock Peterson the other night. So look, I. I'm not saying Washington won't be good. That's not my take at all. I just think that week one they can be had. And the case for the Giants is fresh out the gate. Defense looks awesome. Dable looks closer to the guy who a couple years ago was the coach of the year.

[Don Hahn]

It could happen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Russell Wilson just plays average quarterback football. They beat the team that last year. They should have beaten twice.

[Don Hahn]

Should have beaten twice is a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on man. Like it's an interesting. Neighbors is like dropping a ball on fourth down. We're not having to kick her.

[Don Hahn]

What happened in the second game that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Was a close game.

[Don Hahn]

Was that the one that Malik dropped it though or. That was game one. That was the first game. That was the field goal game where Malik Neighbors dropped the one ball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then in the second game it was another close game. Would they win by six?

[Don Hahn]

Listen, what you're saying is a possibility. Week one is a complete toss up. And you know, if you have a team that has not found its groove yet like Terry's getting there, sure it's. I'm not. It's not the hottest take of all time but this huge step back Jaden made up. So for so many deficiencies they want a few close games that probably should.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Have been split Bengals, the Bears. Like there are a lot of games last year that. But real quick there is a correction to be had.

[Don Hahn]

Sure. But like for example, the. Everyone knows I talk about the Giants from a few years ago. The Giants beat Minnesota who was a very average playoff team and then they went to Philadelphia and literally. No, literally because I had Giants fans Coming up to me and they tried to like laugh in my face and act as if the commander's loss in Philadelphia was similar to the Giants loss. It wasn't similar. The Giants were not in that game from the opening drive. Right. The game was over literally before they got the ball. The game was over. Okay, so that's not a fair comp. The Giants taking a step back versus Washington, who went on the road and beat Tampa, who's not special. I'd probably put them as better than Minnesota from the year. From the Giants year. And then went to Detroit and beat who many people thought was the best team in the NFC soundly on the road and then, truth be told, against Philadelphia. I don't care how this sounds. People can shout me down all they want. They made mistakes and they deserve to lose. They put the football on the ground. But let's not act like the Eagles had solved the commander's offense. They just handed the ball back to the Eagles a few times and ended up getting losing to a better team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but when people talk about a regression like that is obviously a negative connotation. The regression simply is. We don't think you're getting back to the NFC team.

[Don Hahn]

But that's not what. That's not what. Harry Douglas. Harry Douglas quotes sound a little stronger.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, so let me ask you this. What do you think Vegas has the over under and wins for the commanders this year?

[Don Hahn]

Well, I think I remember it. Nine and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nailed it. That feels awfully low for a team that was just in the NFC championship game.

[Don Hahn]

But. But that's be okay. Well, then I guess you and I aren't really arguing because them winning 10 or 11 games to me wouldn't be a regression. That would just be another really good year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or Vegas is saying it's on the table. They win nine games. Nine and a half. So it's on the table. They're a 9 and 8 football team.

[Don Hahn]

9 and 8 does would feel like a regression. A step back. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And all I'm saying is, you know.

[Don Hahn]

Vegas had them at last year. It wasn't. It wasn't near where they ended up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I wasn't like four and a half. Five.

[Don Hahn]

I think five and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All I'm saying is week one that's in anything can happen week.

[Don Hahn]

But that's why it's not a hot take. Yeah, you're right. Yo. Week one and week 19, 18, when I can't keep track anymore. Week one and week 18 are the same thing. What are you picking? What are you really.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's hard. It's really hard to bet. But I guess the point of this conversation.

[Don Hahn]

What's the line right now? Washington minus three?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I think it's seven and a half, actually. They're more than a touchdown favorite.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I do not like that line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But the point I'm trying to make and why people locally should care is like, how do the. You see the Giant schedule to start the season? It's at Washington, it's at Dallas, then you're home for Kansas City, and then it's home for the Chargers.

[Don Hahn]

It's Washington minus six and a half, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, so it's come down since I last looked at it.

[Don Hahn]

That's a big line.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But at Washington, at Dallas, home for Kansas City, home for the Chargers, immediately you're like, yo, that's oh and four.

[Don Hahn]

But not necessarily, is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is what I'm saying, because you can't the first week.

[Don Hahn]

Listen, I don't like them to be much better than 1 and 3.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not.

[Don Hahn]

But they could get to 2 and 2. I wouldn't be. I'm not shocked. If the Giants get to two and two. I'm not shocked.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think there's no chance they're beating Kansas City.

[Don Hahn]

But are you. You're sure Kansas City comes out hot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because of how they lost?

[Don Hahn]

You think they're going to start this year smoking?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. This is like a different Kansas City team.

[Don Hahn]

You know what? I. Yeah, I think you're probably right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hope that, that because, remember, they were able to get away with not being.

[Don Hahn]

Because they were coming off the super.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bowl because they were winning. Now you just got embarrassed. So I think I almost give them no chance to win that game against the Chiefs, the Cowboys, as long as Dak is healthy, they're not beating them. So those are the two losses right off the bat that I say you're not winning. Commanders and Chargers is where you. You kind of feel like, all right, we have a chance here. And that's before we get to the Saints, where the Saints are probably the worst team in football. So I don't know, man. I just feel that that game right there, Week one, right off the bat, that's their best chance to have fans, like, be excited early. It's the best fan, by the way. So the Giant over under is five and a half for wins this year. The only team worse than that is New Orleans. So there's a chance they're picking number two.

[Don Hahn]

Only five and a half is the second worst in the league.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, tied with a couple of other teams.

[Don Hahn]

Right, Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But four and a half is, like, the low point with New Orleans. So there's a chance, man, we're doing the same thing, looking ahead to the draft and. And I'm just trying to, like, game plan a way for us to not get there. Like, how do we avoid us having the same conversation again with the jets and the Giants?

[Don Hahn]

You're praying is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm praying.

[Don Hahn]

I believe there was a New Jersey resident man named Jon Bon Jovi living on the prayer. I think he wrote. Yeah. Something about how you're feeling. And I get it. I've felt this way every year. It's in some ways even worse.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that makes your job more fun. If they're good, bro, I want. They're not beating your team.

[Don Hahn]

I want the Giants to be good. I want the Giant. It's a nightmare. And by the way, it's not even fun when the commanders are good. And neither team here is good because people just get mad when I talk about them. So, I mean, don't get me wrong, the great Chris Russo can be on the air here for 30 years talking about, of all teams, the San Francisco Giants. You talk about a team distant from this market, the commanders might as well be in the market compared to the San Francisco Giants. I mean, I guess there is a history, but you get the idea. At this point, it's completely distant.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's also division rival elements. Giant fans don't want to hear you waxing poetic about the commanders, but at.

[Don Hahn]

Least there's a relevance. They're connected.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

What the commanders do matters in this. In this market. We'll see. Listen, I do have fears about a commander. Step back to some degree, but it's to be expected in a year, too. I do think Jaden's still going to be very, very.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's awesome. I've got no questions about him.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like a.

[Don Hahn]

It's a dude.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's awesome. He's. He's incredible. Jackson Dart we did here today is going to be starting in the preseason, so that's exciting, right?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Maybe we'll hear from Jackson Dart during the old ENN coming up at 6.

[Peter Rosenberg]

O', clock, which Anthony actually is able to do today because we don't kick him to the curb for our point.

[Don Hahn]

But it was the right call, wasn't it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Don Hahn]

What.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just kidding.

[Don Hahn]

We wouldn't have had this from New York. I'm not supposed to Say that. No, it's okay. We got it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's all good.

[Don Hahn]

But. Yeah, but we're live radio. I can't say no, don't say it again. We're gonna run out of dump time. But that's a bad word. That's one of the words.

[Ty Butler]

Stop. Stop.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, the beginning part of that could be a drop, like in one of our intros. Listen, From New York. You're telling me that's not just a drop on its own, it was not great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Maybe part of enn. But you're not from New York, you're from Maryland.

[Don Hahn]

I know, but.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So here's the thing with Anthony. Doing enns, what do these interns do? You know how sometimes in baseball you become concerned with DHS because it's like they're not playing the field, so they're not all that engaged. That's how I feel about Anthony. If he's not doing E and N, like, do we have full peak engagement? Anthony Pusick?

[Don Hahn]

You know what? I hate to say this. I think you're doubting his professionalism. That's the part that I don't like, is you're. And by the way, can you really trust a guy who goes, I don't really like cupcakes? Who doesn't like cupcakes? I'm right there with you, Ty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

See?

[Don Hahn]

What does that mean? You don't like cupcakes? I'll wipe the icing off and just eat the cupcake as is. You don't like icing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm not.

[Don Hahn]

What about regular cake? Regular cake?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm doing the same thing.

[Don Hahn]

Did you get one of these?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nope.

[Don Hahn]

All right, good. I'm just glad we didn't waste one on you. Wipe off the icing. By the way, what kind of farm were you freaks raised on don't like cupcakes? Anthony, are you with me on this at least?

[Peter Rosenberg]

As you saw, I ate a cupcake and the banana pudding.

[Don Hahn]

Wait, and neither of you had the banana pudding? I mean, I guess Ty is preparing for his decathlon. Dan and Dave over here can't eat anything but Jacob. What's your excuse? Well, I already. You didn't have banana pudding? No, I didn't. But that's the best banana pudding I've ever had, though, so. And yet you opted against. Well, I'm in. I'm a hate studio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think you're questioning his profession.

[Don Hahn]

You couldn't say, anthony, bring me a plate. Do you want me to bring you some during the break?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don Hahn]

Why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don Hahn]

So I will lift my ass in there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh no, no. Matter of fact, Conor. Whenever Conor gets a chance. Hang on. I think he actually his name is.

[Don Hahn]

Colin and he's not here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He read the email from Good Karma that said, when we get to the new studio, food is not allowed.

[Don Hahn]

Oh professional, professional.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There we go.

[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. But are you that somebody?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got that shirt. So that's why you're playing it.

[Don Hahn]

See?

[Peter Rosenberg]

See, her birthday was yesterday too, by the way. Oh yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Damn. I didn't say happy birthday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The anniversary of her death is coming up. August 21st. It's.

[Don Hahn]

It's the end of the summer. I know that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I remember when I was 22nd. I want to say it was like.

[Don Hahn]

22Nd, 23rd, I think it's definitely. All I know is it's end of summer. Remember it well, that was a bad one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tough. The story, everything about the story is depressing. Super shooting a video and I had.

[Don Hahn]

An opportunity to meet her that summer and skipped it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you got to live with that for the rest of your lives. Your life and lives.

[Don Hahn]

Both of our lives.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why do we do that? Every time someone dies, we come up with a story. Like we personalize the story.

[Don Hahn]

It's a natural, natural thing to do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We make it something about us. Well, how.

[Don Hahn]

But see, people overrate that being, like, a selfish thought.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, how do you feel about, like, posting pictures, like, when someone dies?

[Don Hahn]

So now that. See, this is. That is complex. The posting pictures with the dead is a bizarre thing that has happened. And I'm not dissing anyone because I'm sure I've done it at some point and I know people that I love who do it. Like. But, like, I don't get. It's. It's weird. Like, it is a we. We. Like, it's some black mirror. That is some straight up black mirror stuff that when people hear about a celebrity dying, they're going on their hard drive and searching through every picture to see if they have one with them. And if you have a bunch of them and you can prove that you really knew the person. Now listen, if a person dies, God forbid, on a Tuesday, and you really cared for that person and actually, I guess if you really cared for the person, it's kind of off the table either way. Like, you knew the person, you had love for them for real, then wanting to share your grief and celebration of that person makes sense. But if it was just like a celebrity who you met once or twice, and you feel the need to run and post that picture at that moment, it's truly some black mirror. We have lost, like, sight of what.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Things are, I think validation.

[Don Hahn]

That's called everything on Lan Majin.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what it is, everything.

[Don Hahn]

Because you're then going in, you're going back and looking and seeing people liking the photo. Like, how many people liked my photo that I had with so and so about you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which another thing I don't like. Now that we're on the conversation of death, I don't need pictures of caskets like, at the funeral. Let's stop doing that.

[Don Hahn]

Who does that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There are people who do that. Yeah, there's a lot of people that do that at a funeral, man. They're posting a picture, like, of the casket on Instagram.

[Don Hahn]

Yo. I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the weirdest thing. I. I can't imagine being at a funeral and thinking, like, this is what I'm gonna do.

[Don Hahn]

No, it's the craziest. I get it. If, like, later in the day on your story, you post like, the program or something, like you celebrated them. And here's the program from the funeral so people see it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is gravesite.

[Don Hahn]

That's. I have no words. People are out of their gourd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So this. There's like, videos going viral online of.

[Don Hahn]

It was a couple weeks Ago of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This guy was in basketball shorts, like.

[Don Hahn]

Laying in the casket. And he has friends and family. Well, he didn't have. But I guess one of his wishes was to be sprayed with champagne bottles like they won a championship game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This was probably one of the most bizarre things. And it goes to your point that.

[Don Hahn]

People do anything to go viral, just even in death? Yeah. I really don't understand. Even in death. He was like, I still want to go viral, though. Guys, we are living in the matrix. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We saw people celebrating the Diddy verdict with baby oil outside the courthouse.

[Don Hahn]

It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now he's like, you know what? MSG, here we come.

[Don Hahn]

So that's what they're saying about to have that concert. I don't see it happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why not?

[Don Hahn]

I don't know. You think MSG is. You think msg. I guess they'll give anyone the building if you ask for it, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You saw what happened last year.

[Don Hahn]

If you pay. What are you referring to?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Listen, we already got criticized for it. Let's not. Let's not go down that route.

[Don Hahn]

No, I'm kidding. Keishian isn't here, but he considered coming for that event. All right, let's. Let's. Lonnie's been on hold for a while. Lonnie? Who's lying? Ty.

[Ty Butler]

What'S going on? Guys, shout out to the company. Of course, as always, Peter. Peter, I don't understand, man. And first of all, Todd, let me get to you. Let me start off with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't do anything to catch it.

[Ty Butler]

You. You. You. You didn't do anything. But, Ty, you gotta stop with the dry snitching, bro. There's a lot of things being known because of you. Like, last week, we knew what Bart was eating because you like distinctly down to a tea, hot sauce and all. Then now you're over here telling about. Now he. From what we been told today, you're not supposed to have food in the building now. So things like that, you gotta like.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, the dry sensation is great. Lonnie, you're not wrong.

[Ty Butler]

Brooklyn, bro, you gotta chill out on.

[Don Hahn]

He sounds nuts, bro.

[Ty Butler]

If they throw some water on you when you walk in the building, you might catch in the flames. Now, Peter, you want to give me a. A booty backhand comment and say, oh, he's a nice guy.

[Don Hahn]

True.

[Ty Butler]

You know, I get you. I get you baby gifts, diapers, get you custom, baby.

[Don Hahn]

That was honestly amazing. I was a beautiful. You're. You're a very sweet and thoughtful man.

[Ty Butler]

I mean, and the reason Why I personally get close when I talk to either one of you. Me, personally, I would love to hug all of you for everything that you do for us. Very sweet, Friday. But personally, why I get closer because I don't necessarily talk that loud, nor do I want to. And every time I talk to one of y', all, it's not about sports, because I listen to y' all every day. I don't need to ask you anything about sports.

[Don Hahn]

Facts.

[Ty Butler]

It's usually because I'm asking you something personal, and I'd rather not have that information out there.

[Don Hahn]

Facts.

[Ty Butler]

That's fair.

[Don Hahn]

That's fair.

[Ty Butler]

That's. That's why I get close. And me, personally, I know my breath don't smell, so I don't know what the hell I was all about.

[Don Hahn]

Well, no, no. Ty threw in that is extra sauce. He went. He went. Oh, you could smell his breath. And I gave him a look. You could. I gave him a look like, nah, bruh. Nah, bruh.

[Ty Butler]

I think. I think what he meant is, like, if he's that close so you can smell it.

[Don Hahn]

That's exactly what. That's exactly.

[Ty Butler]

I. I know my joint don't be humming. And as you can see, I like to make sure. I like to make sure I show up to these events, dress nice so I'm dancing. That's when. About time. I have my breath smelling and all of that.

[Don Hahn]

Hell, no.

[Ty Butler]

Again, I just. I wasn't calling in to defend myself. I was just calling in to let y' all know why I personally get close.

[Don Hahn]

So, by the way, so. So in all fairness. In all fairness, then you don't disagree with me? You acknowledge you are a bit of a.

[Ty Butler]

No, no, no, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Again, I get close because I don't want people in the conversation. I. I usually ask you about your family, the kids.

[Don Hahn]

True.

[Ty Butler]

I don't know, Lonnie.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Personally, I think you need to get a little closer. That's what I.

[Ty Butler]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Not at all. I think the reason why I put. And the reason why I put my hand on your shoulder, Peter, is because, you know, I tend to do that to show the people. Sorry.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, you went.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He went there. You went there. Dropped the flex bomb on him.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, he really. He did give some very thoughtful gifts for the baby. I was touched by that. It was very nice and touched because he touches me every time he sees me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then for you to just disparage his name on the air like that.

[Don Hahn]

I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I simply pointed out that he's a bit of a close talker and he did not deny that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he gave you the reason, so there's some context behind it. It's all good.

[Don Hahn]

It doesn't necessarily help in the moment, you know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And now, you know, going forward.

[Don Hahn]

But does that mean that if we're having a casual conversation, he'll allow a little more space?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he's just saying he's not there for casual conversation.

[Don Hahn]

So if he's just like, hey, man, what's up?

[Ty Butler]

You good?

[Don Hahn]

Like. Cause the truth is you don't have to get close to someone, be like, yo, how's your family?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But see the a, what's up, man? You good? Is why he's grilling you the way that he is. Like you said, like once you see him, first time you see him, he's grilling you. That's his asking of yo, you good. That's what you said.

[Don Hahn]

I guess you're right. He does do the grip. Yeah, maybe. You know what? It's all coming together. You know someone who we haven't spoken to in a while. Let's say hello to Spike and St. Pete. Spike.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, boys. I called for a couple of reasons. I think I'm a numerologist. And Peter, happy birthday. And I called to wish Anthony a happy birthday. It's the program. Yeah, he. I spoke to him.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, good. Okay, good.

[Ty Butler]

I think you and Ty together are my age. You're what, 46, Peter?

[Don Hahn]

I'm 46 now. Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

How old are you, Ty?

[Peter Rosenberg]

32.

[Ty Butler]

Okay. I just turned 79. So you're still beating both of us. Yeah, well, I'm one year ahead. That don't mean much. You get older. But the one thing about Ty Butler, you know how big a fan I am, he's pragmatic, he's pious and he's thoughtful. And his career, like your career, is skyrocketing in many venues. And I'll tell you another thing I noticed. I didn't know he was on sny and I looked through some stuff and he's a good looking guy, man. I'm telling you, it's. It's all in front of you. And Peter, you already made, made your mark. And I'll leave you with this because it's, it's very interesting with, with the sports talk. I'm a basketball guy and I watch a little bit of baseball. It's tough for me to watch baseball growing up the way I watched it. And I don't know how it work out with these robotic umpires. But I had a little granddaughter just born two weeks ago. So Maya has a little. Little playmate. Yeah. Named Leighton Jane. That was my little lj. Unfortunately, I couldn't go up and visit it because my health's pretty bad right now. But we'll figure that out next week. But my point is, you guys together, so you're seven. You were 41, 32 and 46. So you're 78. You guys together got making magic. And I'm not blowing smoke up your rear ends because I know you're both. And it's different. This is a different show. This is not sports. This is people talk. So you could be on a soap opera and you could be on a late night show where one of the guys just got booted off. And I know you tried that. Peter, I don't know what happened. You never explained what happened on that late night show. You around, which I really enjoyed because I like you.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Ty Butler]

Whatever happened, did it just not get numbers or what?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, it didn't. It they. Format wise, we really tried to make it like a long form kind of show. And that. That's not really where the Internet was going in that for that kind of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Show was this complex.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. So we did like. We did multiple segments, but it was all one long thing, which isn't something that's really done online. Usually it's either one long interview or.

[Ty Butler]

No. People don't have patience. But I recollect you saying this is what you wanted to do. Besides the music and the wrestling and all the other things you're an expert at so called. You said this is what I wanted to do. I wanted to do a talk. And it resonated in my mind. And I've kept it that way. And I don't know if it'll ever reappear because unfortunately, I'm on the 19th old. You kids are in the middle of your life. The attention span. I see with my own four. My own four. My oldest daughter wrote a book and it's been published and she's 49 years old. And the attention span. Tell me a little bit about it while you can read it. Click on this. Here's the link.

[Don Hahn]

No, you're not wrong, Spike. That part is challenging. But I am glad that you have found this version of the show different. This is why I love the Summertime, because you get a chance to try out some different, different stuff. And listen, I'll be totally frank with everyone because everyone already knows this about me. I don't see sports talk the way everyone else here or everywhere or anywhere else really sees it. Like, I don't see sports talk as the default. And I just, one of the things I enjoy about Ty is that he enjoy you at least seem to enjoy rolling with the flow. I don't think the default position on sports talk radio has to be serious. Like to me, that's always the default position that, as we were taught it is like, what's the serious angle today? What is what's happening in the news? I'm like, we, we are no different than Entertainment Tonight. Like, we're talking about. Like, everyone tells me, like, wrestling's fake. It's all fake. As I've said many times, if the Yankees beat the Red Sox, we don't invade Massachusetts. Okay? It's all just pretend fun. Basically. Grown children take a stick and smack something and everyone talks about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A couple of years ago, Dodgers fans were literally invading Yankee state, by the way, I remember that story.

[Don Hahn]

And then they really took it to the next level in the World Series and just celebrated on your field. It was completely disrespectful. But I do, I really do enjoy like leading with fun and letting the sports kind of organically show up when they show up.

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[Ty Butler]

Are you feeling more fulfilled now that.

[Don Hahn]

You'Re back to work on August 15th?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ty Butler]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

Not a great look for us.

[Don Hahn]

That would be entertaining though. All right, I want to hit every. I want to hit every caller here, so I better be start with Richard first because.

[Ty Butler]

Peter Tighe, who's that lady? Isley brothers. October of 73 and that's when the Mets, when the Oakland A's were in the World Series. That was the number one song at that time. Great song. That is a great song. Great, great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I love the noise that Richard picks when he first gets on.

[Don Hahn]

No one better. He's got the best noise.

[Ty Butler]

See you guys. One of my favorite of all time songs. Isley Brothers. Who's that? Okay. Did you see Bednar yesterday? He looks like Goose Gossage.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You loved it.

[Ty Butler]

I couldn't believe Boone. I've been telling you guys for years, leave the pitcher in if he pitches a good eighth inning. There's no rule that says a closer has to go one inning. The guy threw 42 pitch. You're never going to see that again. Boone went up to him on the mound in the ninth, looked at him in the eyes. That was old time baseball. That was Billy Martin baseball. That was what they did, Peter. That's what they did. Ty, in the old days, games were played from the heart. That was wonderful. And then look across the way at the Met game. Did you see the fans give that guy, Gavin Williams a standing ovation? He threw 126 pitches. Jesus, that was unbelievable. I was rooting for him. 126 pitches and he was still going. But of course he didn't get it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, Richard, can I say something real quick? I know you got your long list of things. Yo, you had a, you had a great take on Barton Carlin earlier.

[Don Hahn]

About what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So because pitchers don't throw as many innings anymore, he said, yeah, on a complete game.

[Ty Butler]

I said, you know what, Ty? I grew up with sport baseball statistics. We knew the number of shutouts to complete games. Okay, you can't have complete games anymore. Let's make it seven. An incomplete game. So we know at the end of the season, max freed through 13 complete games, seven inning games. That's great. That and the other fact, instead of five innings for a winning pitcher, let him pitch four innings yesterday. Tie. Ohtani pitched four great innings, eight strikeouts. He left with the lead. Of course they lost the game, but he should have gotten the Win if they won the game. He pitched great. Four innings, one run. Let's short and it's a four innings now, you know, you got to make the statistics still mean something. That's what the fans love. They don't want to see a cy young winner nine and 16, when he could have won another six or seven games because he didn't pitch enough innings or whatever. He didn't pitch the fifth inning if he pitched four pure good innings. Give him the win if he deserves it. So I say they change it to four innings and complete games at the end of the year. Peter, we love to see how many complete games we love.

[Don Hahn]

But baseball ends up ruining the numbers, and I had to hang up on them or we wouldn't get to anyone. Chauncey, what's going on?

[Ty Butler]

Hey, what's up, guys? So I just. Just to start off, Ty, you're kind of like the current situation with John. With John Carlos stand on the Yankees stand of the station. Like you're elite and we need you in there full time. We just don't got a. There's just not a spot at the moment. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Argue there were slots, but, you know.

[Don Hahn]

By the way, you could argue there are people here who lobbied for him to get a slot. But that's neither him which the days.

[Ty Butler]

The day is coming. No doubt the day is coming. But also, Peter, underrated move by you yesterday. Yesterday I defended the interns yesterday. They. They couldn't breathe the same air as you. Why they get airtime today. Use them as chess pieces as a part of your scheme to, you know, celebrate Anthony's birthday, to patch up your mistake. That's an underrated, weaselly move.

[Don Hahn]

I will go to my deathbed saying that today's performance by the interns legitimized everything I said yesterday. And Ty won't tell you the truth because he wants to make good radio off the air. I said, my man, are you not surprised that all these interns just walked out after I asked them to say? He was like, I won't lie. That's. That's crazy. He. I'm sorry, I have to air you out. He said, it's crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Joe. Chauncey walking out when we. When he offered to, like, help celebrate Anthony's birthday is wild. That part is wild.

[Don Hahn]

It helped my take age.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I don't. I don't. I'm not defending, like, his commentary yesterday because I thought it was, as you said, Weasley, sleazy. He sounded, like, privileged.

[Don Hahn]

And it's the Opposite, but it's the opposite of that. But keep going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But go ahead, Chauncey.

[Ty Butler]

Well, I agree. If they agreed to stay and they walked out in that, that is, that is messed up. But maybe they're doing it as revenge from yesterday.

[Don Hahn]

I don't know.

[Ty Butler]

I can't speak for them. But next, my point on the jets is they. Why did they or Ty. It's more of a Jets fan question for you. Why is it that you don't expect seven or more wins when they had back to back seasons of seven wins with historically bad quarterback play and apparently a worse coach?

[Don Hahn]

Last year wasn't historically bad last year. I got bad news for you.

[Ty Butler]

No, no, not last year. Oh, the two, the two, the two years with Wilson and Salah. Bad quarterback and bad coach. So if you're saying you. They can't get to seven wins, you're different, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're playing, they're playing the NFC north this year. That's a different schedule.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. And there's no, there's gonna be a lot of tough outs there. Let's go to Jose in Brooklyn. What's up, Jose?

[Ty Butler]

Good afternoon, Ty, Peter, shout out to the company. And I definitely got a good kick out of the conversation. You guys were going back and forth with the, with the bad guy stuff. Hilarious. But I wanted to bring up, you know, Ty's hall pass. Did I hear a sharpie? Was like. Was my hearing correct on that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you got a hall pass?

[Ty Butler]

Me, Do I have a hall pass?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm talking, I'm talking to Rosenberg.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

I think my past life has precluded me. I don't think I get a hall.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ashanti's one of them One Jacob, you know, that's one of them ones.

[Don Hahn]

A lot of people would know.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Honestly, it was just the sideburns that always threw me off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ashanti in her prime, man. Now I was hating a little bit when now they got back with her, I'm like, come on, man. At a versus.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, that was crazy.

[Don Hahn]

That's super crazy.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, it happens. But I wanted to talk about the jets also. I don't think I'm kind of looking at this as not going to be a nightmare, nightmare situation if we win seven to eight games. I think that's kind of, you know, where, where this team's roster is at. But we'll see. But we will see. I do think that this team, even though it doesn't look like it, even though it doesn't have all the hype, I still think that this team is still very talented and could possibly, you know, surprise a couple teams, which is what I'm hoping for. But wanted to thank that up and keep getting the muscles up, Ty, because I see you getting to that Nelly status, man. Have a good one, man.

[Don Hahn]

He could be the next Nelly. We will. We will see. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart, smart speakers.

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