Hour 3: Old Timer's Day & NBA

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary
Episode: Hour 3: Old Timer's Day & NBA
Release Date: August 8, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg

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1. Introduction to Old Timer's Day and the Yankees’ Strategy

The episode kicks off with Peter Rosenberg and Ty Butler delving into the upcoming Yankees Old Timer's Day. Peter expresses skepticism about Derek Jeter’s absence from the event, questioning the Yankees' decision to move Giancarlo Stanton to the outfield. He remarks, “I just don’t think it has a long shelf life” regarding Stanton’s new role (01:00).

Notable Quote:
Peter Rosenberg (01:35): “Old Timers Day. No Derek Jeter, no Jeets. No Jeets.”

2. Derek Jeter’s Absence and Fan Reactions

The hosts discuss Derek Jeter's decision to skip the Old Timer's Day, citing his daughter’s birthday party as the reason. However, Ty Butler points out inconsistencies in Jeter’s scheduling, suggesting the real reason might be different. The conversation highlights fan frustration and media criticism, especially from figures like Boomer Esiason.

Notable Quote:
Ty Butler (02:35): “The man, by the way, Derek Jeter is what, 54 or something? 57 ways.”

3. Host Athleticism and Light-Hearted Banter

Peter and Ty take a playful detour to rate each other’s athletic abilities. They humorously assess their own and their colleagues' prowess in various sports, emphasizing the show’s light-hearted and competitive spirit.

Notable Quote:
Ty Butler (17:54): “If we're being honest, it's not talked about enough hosts. I'm not going to get into breaking down every producer. This show's the most athletic show.”

4. Listener Phone Calls: Yankees Fandom and Perspectives

Several listeners call in sharing their experiences and opinions about the Yankees and Old Timer's Day. Mike from Queens humorously recounts a coincidental mix-up regarding the event’s date, while Dave expresses his evolving fandom, transitioning from disliking the Yankees to becoming a supporter over the years.

Notable Quote:
Dave (19:19): “I've subsequently become a Yankees fan maybe in about 2011, 2012. Does that make me a fraud?”

5. Personal Anecdotes: Ty Butler’s Encounter with Kobe Bryant

Ty shares a heartfelt story about attending Kobe Bryant’s final game, highlighting Kobe’s legacy both on and off the court. He reflects on Kobe’s transformation into a dedicated father and how witnessing this brought him a sense of peace and admiration.

Notable Quote:
Ty Butler (38:54): “Kobe found his way as a dad. And I was like, that's so nice that he's like in a really good place.”

6. NBA Christmas Day Games and Coaching Opinions

The discussion shifts to NBA news, particularly the announcement of Christmas Day matchups by Sham Charania. Peter and Ty debate the frequent selection of teams like the Knicks and dissect their opinions on Lakers' head coach J.J. Redick, criticizing his coaching style and energy.

Notable Quote:
Peter Rosenberg (36:33): “Can you win a championship if he's your second best player at that salary? And I keep landing on I don't think so.”

7. Addressing Host Injuries and Continuing the Conversation

Towards the latter part of the main content, Ty mentions dealing with a leg injury, adding a personal touch to the discussion. This leads into more light-hearted exchanges and reflections on recent sports events, maintaining the show's engaging and personable tone.

Notable Quote:
Ty Butler (44:07): “I've been walking all through the airport. I definitely did more today than I've been doing.”

8. Summary and Transition to Advertisements

As the main discussions wrap up, Peter and Ty prepare to transition to advertisements, maintaining their characteristic banter and camaraderie. They recap key points and set the stage for upcoming segments.

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Conclusion

In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, the hosts thoroughly explore the intricacies surrounding the Yankees' Old Timer's Day, Derek Jeter’s absence, and broader NBA topics. Through engaging discussions, listener interactions, and personal stories, they provide insightful and entertaining perspectives that resonate with both sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

Key Takeaways:

• Yankees Strategy: Skepticism over the sustainability of stretching Giancarlo Stanton's role.
• Derek Jeter’s Absence: Mixed fan reactions and media scrutiny regarding his non-attendance.
• Host Dynamics: Playful assessment of athleticism highlights the hosts' chemistry.
• Listener Engagement: Diverse opinions from fans enrich the conversation.
• Personal Stories: Ty’s encounter with Kobe adds emotional depth.
• NBA Insights: Critical views on coaching decisions and game selections.

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Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments have been excluded from this summary to focus on the core discussions of the episode.

Transcript

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. That sounds like heaven to me. Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, it's our number three of dhr, Ty Butler, Peter Rosenberg. We're in Florida today. Sunny Florida just happened by coincidence, but we're here getting it popping with you. 800-919-3776. Talking to y' all HR on ESPN at Rosenberg Radio. Ty D. Butler, the phone lines are filled, but before we get to the phone calls, want to get into some. Let's do a little potpourri. How about this? We started talking about the Yankees last segment. I am not at all confident in this. Stanton move to the outfield being something that they can sustain. Like it's sounds great because you don't want to lose his bat with Judge coming back as a dh, but I just don't think it has a long shelf life. The Yankees, of course, back in action tonight against the Houston Astros. I just don't look at this situation as one that's going to, you know.

[Ty Butler]

Old Timers Day tomorrow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Old Timers Day. No Derek Jeter, no Jeets. No Jeets.

[Ty Butler]

Why not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, he says his daughter's birthday party, you know, gotten in the way, but do a little quick research.

[Ty Butler]

Uh huh.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Daughter's birthday is not till next weekend.

[Ty Butler]

Well, he decided to have the party on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Decided to have it. And they're celebrating the 25 year anniversary of them beating the Mets in the World Series. Your boy Paul o' Neal is going to be out there.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, it's me, Paulio. Just excited to be there. Polio. Polio. String cheese. That's what they call me now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Another station here in New York came down hard on Jeter for not that's any old time.

[Ty Butler]

I wonder what station that was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you feel the same way? Like you take exception to it at all? You feel like he's being an elitist or is it not all that big deal?

[Ty Butler]

Give me a break, losers. The man, by the way, Derek Jeter is what, 54 or something? 57 ways.

[Peter Rosenberg]

57.

[Ty Butler]

Hey Siri, how old is Derek Jeter.

[Anthony Pusey]

He'll be 53 next Saturday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Derek Jeter is 51 years old.

[Ty Butler]

You're close.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just turned 51.

[Ty Butler]

He's 51.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you wish Derek Jeter a happy birthday?

[Ty Butler]

I did not. That's a great point. Derek Jeter is 51. He's going to have a lot of old timers days. He's got young kids.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hope so.

[Ty Butler]

I certainly do. And he's no longer with another team. I think he's done doing that. He's got young kids. We know that. Leave the guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Old timers days. Whenever you're celebrating the anniversary of a.

[Ty Butler]

Champion, bro, it's the Yankees. Every year they're celebrating the anniversary of a championship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold up now he's. He was.

[Ty Butler]

Last year was 15 since 09. In a few years it'll be 20 since 09.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you're saying Yankee fans are spoiled. Brad, since we should approach.

[Ty Butler]

I'm just saying he has. Jeter has an anniversary every frigging three years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which. Which sounds great until you realize the Lone World Series MVP was that championship against the Mets in 2000. He was a pretty big part of it.

[Ty Butler]

How was he a big part of 01?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They lost in 01.

[Ty Butler]

What about 02?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They didn't make the World Series in 02.

[Ty Butler]

What about 03?

[Peter Rosenberg]

03? They made the World Series and lost.

[Ty Butler]

So there's not a celebration for a while is what you're saying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

04. Are we going to celebrate 04 when they blew that three? Nothing leading the championship series.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, that'll be an interesting anniversary when they do 25 years since the worst defeat in the history of sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you don't really feel away about it.

[Ty Butler]

So this is the last one to get to celebrate from the core four. I guess that one for 25, but then there's 30. In fact, they're going to roll into 30 any. Any day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but World Series MVP Old Timers Day. They're actually. And so my, my theory was he doesn't. He has said for a while he does not have any hope or any like interest in playing in the game.

[Ty Butler]

Is it. Is it. Sorry, is it 96? 98, 99? 2000?

[Peter Rosenberg]

96, 98, 99, 2000.

[Ty Butler]

So hold on. So real quick, isn't the 30th of 96 two years from now? Like what are we really. This is ridiculous. This is a nothing. Anthony, am I wrong here? Am I getting this wrong?

[Anthony Pusey]

I'm not upset about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

2000 means something.

[Ty Butler]

It does. But there's so many with that team.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But 2000 means something because he's the face of it. He was the mvp.

[Ty Butler]

He doesn't care about the mvp.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's not who he is against the mats.

[Anthony Pusey]

Look, they also used to play an actual game. Now they're going to play softball, right? This isn't a thing.

[Ty Butler]

It's not even a real thing.

[Anthony Pusey]

I give credit to the Yankees and anybody that's going to be there. I used to go with my dad all the time. It's not. I've gone where they haven't played the game. It's not the same.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me ask you. And they're playing the game now. So. Anthony, a softball game?

[Anthony Pusey]

I don't think they're even playing a real game. I think it's a softball game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it a softball game?

[Anthony Pusey]

I'm 96% confident that it's softball.

[Ty Butler]

That has to be 96%. A high percentage for Anthony Pusey.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And how do we get to 96?

[Ty Butler]

It's the first year of the Core Fours championship run.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But here, my theory was because they're bringing back the game, and he has no interest in playing in the game. He doesn't want to be the only guy. That's just like, I'm a lot of.

[Ty Butler]

This on the table.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So that's what I thought.

[Ty Butler]

Probably I was on the table.

[Anthony Pusey]

I take it back. Brian Hoak has a story, says it was a traditional game. I know they were talking about playing a softball game, thinking that that would get everybody involved. For people like Jeter who didn't want to participate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Any merit to that? Anthony, he doesn't want to play in the game. So how foolish would it look if he's the only guy that's like, I'm above all of this.

[Ty Butler]

I think it doesn't want to look that way.

[Anthony Pusey]

I think it's a. I would say this whether he's thinking about it or not. I don't think it's a good look if you go and don't play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, exactly. So. So I rather not show up.

[Anthony Pusey]

Is it convenient that, like, you know, I could schedule a birthday party around the time such that if there is a game, which there they have this year, that I won't look like I'm. I don't want to be a part of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You think he waited until, like, the date came out? It's like, this is a good time to schedule a birthday party. Could have. Oh, man. That's like Hannah.

[Anthony Pusey]

But by the way, I don't. I don't think that that's I really don't think that's a bad thing.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't. God, there are a lot of Yankees.

[Anthony Pusey]

He was just there last year.

[Ty Butler]

They were. People were really upset about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait. I was driving in listening to the case show shout out to him back from his only four day. Some of us take a month, you know.

[Ty Butler]

You know. You guys don't remember these old drug commercials they used to have back in the day. I learned it from watching you. That's how. That's me in Vacation with Mike.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There was a guy and I'm not making this up. Ant you were listening to the show. He was emphatic about how done he is with Derek Jeter because he's not attending Old Timers Day tomorrow. If you playing this up for radio, that dude was like legitimately aggie.

[Anthony Pusey]

If you bought it, if you bought a ticket expecting to see Derek Jeter, I get it. I understand.

[Ty Butler]

But you're also dumb. If you're. If you're that big a Jeter fan, you should have known there's a chance he's not showing up. Am I wrong?

[Anthony Pusey]

There were a couple of events that old that. That former Yankees went back to, especially when it was part of the Marlins, that he didn't go. He gave a little video. So this is not uncommon. And I don't. It doesn't change my opinion of Derek Jeter, to be honest with you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But didn't. Wasn't the reason back then. He thought it was poor form.

[Anthony Pusey]

Yes. To be now it's. Now it's another reason.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So he's just. I mean he's been back twice. Right. Like the hall of Fame.

[Anthony Pusey]

And he was there last year, wasn't he?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, he was there last year, I think. But listen, Jeter is not the most nostalgic legend of all time. We know that. Okay. He's not Mr. Warm and Fuzzy.

[Anthony Pusey]

He introduced Cece at the hall of Fame. It's not like he's got bad blood.

[Ty Butler]

With the Yankees, but. Exactly. But it's not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's this guy. Like they're. They're mad cool.

[Ty Butler]

But it's not like he's disconnected completely either. People are just. People really got like bent out of shape and were screaming about this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. A lot of people who are upset and at the other station, dude called him out, said he's an elitist. And Jeter actually fired back at the.

[Ty Butler]

Guy who was just tell me I'm not like these people. Who was the guy? You know me. I call out everybody.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Boomer Esiason it was Boomer. Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Boomer is maybe the most holier than thou person in this market. And that's saying a lot in this market.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Jeter's like, yo, all you had to do was text me and find out why I'm not coming. It's not that hard. And I think he walked it back.

[Ty Butler]

Damn, he walked it back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

By the way. So Boomer stepped out, insulted Jeter for no reason. And all Jeter did was put over Boomer by making him look good and say, you could have just texted me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I've got a birthday party for my daughter.

[Ty Butler]

No, but even just saying to Boomer on a text basis, he responded by making him look good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

That's a really nice response by Jeets.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you're not one of these guys who thinks that we have to say the other station? It's like sacrilege.

[Ty Butler]

No, I'm aware of what the fan is. It's a pretty popular New York thing. And Boomer Assassins a well known figure, and I've called him out a million times. I think he's a nozzle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So executives actually think that if you utter like the acronym no here, it's.

[Ty Butler]

Never been a big deal. I've never. At this station, I've never had anyone say like, oh, we don't like to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Say that, but, like, gonna send people over there.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, that's like the old school philosophy of radio. I think it's silly. I think whatever makes the best content.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You should do.

[Ty Butler]

So. I don't, I don't. But, like, I just. I don't know why it sometimes feels like people like Boomer and others in this market are, like, playing a stereotype. Like, you really have to be the like. Come on, Cheetah. You got it.

[Dave]

You.

[Ty Butler]

What are you doing? Do you love the team or not? Like, and you really care? It's Old Timers Day. Yeah, I just don't. And by the way, I don't even. I don't think about Old Timers day being for 51 year olds. To me, old timers. And I could be wrong because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I think that the most important piece of this is that they're honoring a championship team that he was a part of the face of. But again, and by the way, I agree with you.

[Ty Butler]

How many more times are they going to honor Tibbs, though, that he was on? If he skips all of them? Let's talk.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So here's another element. There were people thinking that maybe this is like him. I think Allen might have said this like, he might be protesting cashmere because we know they don't have the best relationship.

[Ty Butler]

That's equally stupid on the other side.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you're calling Alan stupid?

[Ty Butler]

No, I'm saying it's a stupid. That is an unrealistic. Protesting cashmen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, he's just like, I'm not. I don't approve of what's going on.

[Ty Butler]

No, that. That. I'll tell you one thing. Derek Jeter does not care that much about what's going on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was on national television.

[Ty Butler]

Well, that's his job, because they pay him handsomely to do so. But, like, do you really think. If you guys really think Derek Jeter or a rod is losing sleep about what the Yankees are doing on a given season, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think they are.

[Ty Butler]

No, they are not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think they are living and dying with every pitch.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. I'll tell you what. Alex Rodriguez is living and dying with the play of one team, the Minnesota Wolves.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that is it. Which also kind of looks phony. He's gotta look like he knows when to celebrate. And I know this is, like, nitpicky sometimes. He's. He's like, sitting courtside and he's celebrating first quarter, Anthony Edwards, three pointer. And it's like, bro, come on, we've got three quarters left.

[Ty Butler]

Calm down.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I get. He's excited as an owner, you know, but even.

[Ty Butler]

Even so that these got very few of them, truly. I think cece cares about the Yankees. I think cece cares about how they're playing. He has relationships with the players who are on the team. Like, him and Judge are still close. Like, I think it's a different kind of thing for cc.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It wasn't a rod. Like, I could. I could totally be making this up. But wasn't he Anthony brought into spring training as, like, an assistant, a specialist?

[Ty Butler]

At some point he was. Yeah. That's not the same, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he cares deeply.

[Ty Butler]

Deeply. That's a bit of a reach. All right, let's go to the phones, talk to the people, shall we? Man, every. Everything's. Every line is full. We have.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's diversity.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. True diversity here. Let's start. Let's start. Since we're talking Yankees right this second, let's start with Mike in Queens, who wants to talk about the boonies we just heard.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yikes.

[Ty Butler]

Hey, Mike.

[Dave]

Hey. What's going on? Hey. Very good timing. So I just left work, and my wife and daughter are away in Florida for my daughter's dance stuff, and she knows I was going to The Old Timers game tomorrow with my dad. I got on the phone with her, and I said, because I talked to a buddy I'm gonna meet, and she said, I think Old Timers days tonight. I was like, no, that's tomorrow. She was like, who are you going with tonight? And I feel like I had the same boonies answer.

[Ty Butler]

What?

[Dave]

I just. It was. The timing was perfect. That's all. That's it. I love you guys. You guys do a great job. That's it.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Ty Butler]

Look, He's. He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think that's a drop that has to stay on the show.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, I know that. That line. I think that's gonna. I think that'll last till Don and Alan are back. That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a real use that in different situations.

[Ty Butler]

Joe and Chappaqua wants to shed some light. I probably on the Dave Rothenberg conversation. Hey, Joe.

[Dave]

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the call. So, yeah, you were talking with Rothenberg earlier about his kids and their athletic ability. I did read somewhere that that comes from the mother, so that does explain a lot.

[Ty Butler]

Well, listen, I don't know if that's true in every case. You know, Shador Sanders might want a word, but in this case, I know it's true because, guys, the fact that he has a son who's going to play college baseball. Have you seen Dave Rothenberg swing a bat?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's awful.

[Ty Butler]

It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, he's not as bad as Ray. My man Ray Santiago.

[Ty Butler]

Well, no one's that bad. Respectfully, Ray is the worst.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But that was like. That was like a level of bad we've never seen before.

[Ty Butler]

No, no, it was. And listen, I say that as someone who embarrassingly grounds out in Don softball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Game every year, but at least you're making contact.

[Ty Butler]

But no, it's the first pitch I just ground out every time. Watching this man swing and miss in softball repeatedly is very challenging.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here's my question for Ray, and I love Ray, which is. It's weird. Every time you feel like you're, like, almost offending someone, you got to throw in that you love them.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, yeah. I knew where we were going.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did Ray know that he was that bad prior to agreeing to play in the softball game?

[Ty Butler]

It's a great question. I think so, though, because he played in it multiple times, so why would.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You not just, you know, I'm gonna sit this one out, y'. All. They pull a Derek Jeter plan a birthday that weekend, just don't show up.

[Ty Butler]

I couldn't agree with you. Anymore. He should have recognized the situation. He absolutely should not have shown up and swung the bat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You can't.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, I think Dave can't throw a football very well either. Although we had an athletic competition though. You remember a few years ago we went. We went head to head in a bunch of sports.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who won that? I don't remember.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, it was me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You won that. Now, DPA, RJ's pretty good at athleticism. DPHO, you'd say saving the show.

[Ty Butler]

Athleticism wise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like athletically, you know, Rick's pretty great at softball.

[Ty Butler]

Rick's a great athlete. I hate his guts, but he's a great athlete. If we're being honest, it's not talked about enough hosts. I'm not going to get into breaking down every producer. This show's the most athletic show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you, Alan and Don.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, there's no true embarrassment in the group.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So Bart Carlin, I've never seen.

[Ty Butler]

I don't know, maybe I'm judging Carla.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Looks like we're judging based on.

[Ty Butler]

I am. Because if there was like a, you know, if there was a running, jumping, you're thinking, although, look at me this week. So who am I to talk? But. But you know, Carlin plays golf. I know that. I just don't know if he does anything else athletically.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And golf's not really an athlete.

[Ty Butler]

That doesn't mean.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So like some people have said, golf is not really a sport.

[Ty Butler]

So if we were to score it on average, for example, the morning show, I'd go ahead and give Rick a ten. Right. And I'd give Dave a three. So they end up averaging to six and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

You go to Barton Carlin, It's a similar situation. I'm going to go even lower. I'm going to go 10 for Bart again, two for Carlin. They're six now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now we get to K. K is.

[Ty Butler]

Just a four sitting on its own. I may tell you he did this and he did that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But state.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. And particularly current state. Four or five, you get to afternoons. Allen is a probably a nice eight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Allen's pretty good.

[Ty Butler]

I think Don is probably a good seven and a half.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's doing the kick boxing.

[Ty Butler]

I'll put myself consistently like a nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Six, six and a half in the celebrity basketball game.

[Ty Butler]

And let's be honest, and on national tv, just bang, knock down a long range jumper. Who else done that on this radio station?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You also tried to jump up a.

[Ty Butler]

Few stairs and badly injured myself. That is true. But I am. Here's the Thing about me, I'm capable of playing everything. Excel. What do I excel at? I can shoot the basketball. All right. I can hit a tennis ball pretty good. I can throw the baseball. I can do it all. I'm not great at anything, but I, there's very little I will embarrass myself in and that's why I like. So the average of our show, that 8, 7, 6, 15, 21, we end up being a 7. And I think we end up winning. I really do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The most athletic show on the stage.

[Ty Butler]

That's, that's my, that's my personal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hey, Dan Grass is at night at.

[Ty Butler]

7Pm I don't think Dan is going to surpass 7.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's a runner though.

[Ty Butler]

That is not athleticism though. But it's great for your endurance.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, but burning calories, capable of, you know, moving. Yes.

[Ty Butler]

Getting away from a bad guy. That's fantastic. I'm truly happy for him, but I just don't know if it's athleticism. Let's go to Cody in San Diego.

[Dave]

Oh, hey Cody. Thank you for picking up. Hello guys. Peter and Ty. So I've got a fraud Friday involving the Yankees and my fandom towards them. So I was born in 1991. I grew up loving baseball in a baseball home. Went to more Mets games than Yankee games. My dad was a Cubs fan. In 2001 I became a Diamondbacks fan. I was completely against the Yankees, totally against the buying of players, etc. I've subsequently become a Yankees fan maybe in about 2011, 2012. Does that make me a fraud?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Come on man. Wait, so you were a Diamondbacks fan in 2001 when they won the World Series.

[Dave]

So I, I, I hated the Yankees so much. In 2001 I became a Diamondbacks fan. Stuck with them for say 5, 6, 7 years? Ish. Continue to hate the Yankees. I actually went to numerous World Series clinching games. I was actually at the 04 game where the Red Sox blew them out in game seven or whatever. I've been through many games and I hated the Yankees, but I've come around to love them.

[Ty Butler]

No, this isn't even. Cody, this isn't even a conversation.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The story doesn't even make sense.

[Ty Butler]

Cody. This is not even hit the gavel.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hit siren about this story makes sense. He's a Diamondbacks fan in 2001.

[Ty Butler]

No, because he hated the Yankees. But he hated the Yankees so much he became a Diamondbacks fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But then how do you go from hating a team to becoming a fan of that team?

[Ty Butler]

I don't Know, I guess it's hate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Watching like you start watching them more. He's a fraud.

[Ty Butler]

That was a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He knew and he said too, but. But then he tried to throw a little 2011. You became a Yankee fan in 2009 when they won the World Series.

[Ty Butler]

The whole thing is embarrassing. Jonathan in LA called us yesterday. We didn't get to him. He's very loyal. We love Jonathan in la. What's up, Jonathan in la.

[Dave]

Hi, guys.

[Ty Butler]

Hi, guys.

[Dave]

Peter. Good having you back, Peter. And great show, by the way. All weekend long, man. You guys done a great job. Oh, Peter, you forgot man. On your athletic resume. 247 champion, baby. That was a good day. To our truth.

[Ty Butler]

It's a great point. Celebrity Game Champion. A lot has happened.

[Dave]

And you know what, Peter? I've been. I got a question for you, Peter. Two questions. So I was watching yesterday the. The Netflix, the wwe, like behind the scenes, man. I thought it was. It was gonna be a little man. Kind of boring. It's pretty good, man.

[Ty Butler]

And that show is awesome.

[Dave]

I can't wait to. I can't wait to see the last two episodes. And also, do you get confused a lot with Sam Roberts? Because my son was like, oh, look, Peter. Like, no, it's not Peter. Do you know who I'm talking about?

[Ty Butler]

Oh, yeah. We're very good friends and we get confused all the time by listeners and it is like. It's super annoying. I'll tell you why. Because I'm much better looking than Sam.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, man.

[Ty Butler]

No, I love Sam.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's how I feel about when people. People confuse me with Mikel Bridges.

[Ty Butler]

That you're you. That you're better. You are much better looking than me. But the thing is, I think a lot of times people don't like, like Sam. Oh, yeah, you're much better looking. I'm looking at this guy. You're much better looking. And I bet your jumper's cleaner too. Is the weirdest jumper. But thank you, Jonathan. But yeah. Oh, no, sorry, go ahead. What are you gonna say? Oh, he's got. When they. The second they hear the thank you. Not Jacob's ready to chop your.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but that's good.

[Ty Butler]

No, it's way. You should be. Wow. Wow. If I knew any. If I didn't know better, I would think you were calling out Johnny Culture. Because you listen in the morning and you know he leaves people. You know, he leaves that line open and you as a radio guy, you probably hear it. Yeah, that like we say goodbye to the person and you could just hear the Phone line still open. And then I'm like, thank you. Thank you, Steve. And then I'll see John, like, oh, oh. But no, I love Sam. And from. I don't mind getting confused with him in the sense that him and I both worked our tails off to make it to wwe and we got there at the same time. And he's a radio guy. I'm a radio guy. We both, I think, have great respect for what the other one does. I'm the one who told Sam, you got to shave your head because he used to have. Sam's a host on Sirius. We're also on the same channel now on Pro Wrestling Nation. Sam used to have this long, curly hair. I was the only real enough friend to say, it's time. It's time. The hairline is time. And he thanks me to this day. But then Ty, after he shaved the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Head, the unintended consequence.

[Ty Butler]

Then he ended up adding a beard. Now we have the same silhouette from a distance. So last week on WWE tv, one of the wrestlers solo Sikoa was like, what's up, Sam? On tv?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm like, how do you react to that on television?

[Ty Butler]

Well, he's a heel. So I let it. Like, I just under my breath was like, no, I'm not. I looked at Biggie and I went, I'm not Sam.

[Anthony Pusey]

He also could kill you.

[Ty Butler]

Well, he could kill me, but that's neither here nor there. But. But that's the part that's frustrating because I love Sam, but, like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You got to do something to shake it up.

[Ty Butler]

Well, I added glasses.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That doesn't.

[Ty Butler]

I added glasses to the look. You guys should get, like, jacked up so no one could ever confuse us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or do the Marcus Stroman durag.

[Ty Butler]

That's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Imagine.

[Ty Butler]

You know what? That's an interesting take. Wait, you mean like when Vince McMahon and the. You've seen the ECW.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ty Butler]

You guys go Vince with the durag. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what we gotta do. The do rag.

[Ty Butler]

That is a way to distinguish myself so they know Sam looks like me, but I'm the one with the do rag. I like what you've come up with. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. Will come back and talk to more of you. The phone line's been jammed and Ty, talk to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want to. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I disagree with your take, by the way. That. Or maybe it wasn't your take. I'm just assigning it to. You didn't like starting the album off with the emotional, you know, the mom.

[Ty Butler]

That wasn't my take.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, that was someone else.

[Ty Butler]

That was Rory and Mall.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Ty Butler]

Or one of them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I liked it.

[Ty Butler]

There was one. It was Mall.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I liked it. I don't really agree with a lot of Mall's takes.

[Ty Butler]

I love Maul. But I also disagree with a lot of. But that's what makes him a good. A good host. When you. When you enjoy someone but you don't agree with their takes, I think that's what makes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are his thoughts on Drake's latest IG post?

[Ty Butler]

I mean, he probably loves it. He loves everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you think he put the actual like button on the post?

[Ty Butler]

He has to. He loves all things that Drizzy does.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Can I throw some news at you real quick?

[Ty Butler]

You have news.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sham Charania just announced the NBA Christmas Day 2025 on ABC and ESPN. And you, as I'm saying it, nailed the Knicks opponent.

[Ty Butler]

I did. Because that game is always a slog.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Last year was the Spurs, Cleveland Cavaliers at the New York Knicks.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, like you dream about the noon start.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's a great game.

[Ty Butler]

It's a great game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But also, why is it the noon start?

[Ty Butler]

It's always the noon.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Spurs, Thunder, Rockets, Lakers, Mavs, warriors and Wolves Nuggets. I feel like we get Wolves Nuggets every year, let's be honest.

[Ty Butler]

Because the weird thing is the Knicks always get tossed in the early one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But why are they putting them in that noon spot? I always do, but they're. It's a different.

[Ty Butler]

It's. I don't think it's that. I think it's like an MSG thing. I seriously do. I. Maybe MSG on Christmas, they like to have their employees home or something. I don't know. But, like, it's always that slot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just don't understand.

[Anthony Pusey]

The only east coast game that's the.

[Ty Butler]

Only east coast game, only pure east.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Coast game is the opening night NBA Rockets at Thunder. So we get Durant going back to OKC against the defending champions. That's sexy.

[Ty Butler]

That actually is pretty good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then you get warriors at Lakers. Did new and improve Luka Doncic.

[Ty Butler]

I love how that's playing out right now. I hope he's you for Luca. Yeah, absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

When everyone started hating, like, there was just like, such. I hated how Reddick threw him under the bus when the season ended. Like, he really, to me, was very like, Redick has this way. And this is Duke. You know, it's Duke. Redick has this way of carrying himself. Like Aaron Glenn. Like, you don't have rings jingling and jangling in the pocket. My G. Don't talk about Luka. Needs to be in better shape. Like you had. You had a great. Compared to me. J.J. redick had a great NBA career compared to you. Compared to me, compared to Luka Doncic. You need to be quiet and be somewhere else. So, like, with the fact that, like, immediately. I get it. You can argue that the fact that Luka wasn't able to play two ways in the playoffs made them a more susceptible team. But, like, you know, he was giving them 30 a night. He's doing Luka Doncic things. How much more are you getting from.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. Something just dawned on me that I didn't quite put together two of the teams I root for. I just don't like their head coaches. Like the vibes. No I went to Knicks, Lakers, as I do every year. Maybe I shouldn't say this, but. So I'm in the press conference room, and I just didn't love Reddick's energy.

[Ty Butler]

How would you. It's Reddick. It's like he's got terrible energy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Terrible, condescending. I'm above you.

[Ty Butler]

Listen.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you ask him a basketball question.

[Ty Butler]

He talks to you like you're a mom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Like he'll try to talk circles around you. Oh, wow.

[Ty Butler]

It's still hard to lift my leg up, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You were limping around pretty much.

[Ty Butler]

And the crazy thing is it's actually, like, spread. So the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's contagious.

[Ty Butler]

Is that what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the COVID vaccine.

[Ty Butler]

That's what it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That.

[Ty Butler]

That's right. That's right. No, no, it's. What did I. What. My meniscus is here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it was at the back of your knee. Remember? It started at the back of your knee, and now.

[Ty Butler]

I swear to God, it hurts down here in my.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which define you. Bell said could happen.

[Ty Butler]

She's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We've had some great guests on.

[Ty Butler]

We really have. We've done it all. But for the record, I would just want to be clear. I was someplace recently where J.J. redick had been.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ty Butler]

And I expressed not a fan of J.J. redick to him. No, he wasn't there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Ty Butler]

The other people around there who had dealt with him were like, oh, your take is dead on. But the energy he gives that. No, you're reading the. You're reading it right. Well, it's not me. Like, he has. Like he has a rest. How do I say this nicely? J.J. redick has resting bitch face all the time. That's not me misreading it. That is the. That is who he is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But even the first take stuff just. I'm like, this is who the Lakers are hiring as their head coach. Like, that's the type of demeanor and attitude.

[Ty Butler]

Listen, they turned out to have a good year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, they got bounced in round one with Luke and LeBron, so. Sure, I guess, comparatively to.

[Ty Butler]

Well, sorry. The way the season started to where it ended. They pulled it together. And I thought he was completely a wuss. I thought, you know, I said this to you. One of the main things that irritated me about the Bronnie situation was not the nepotism or whatever. I don't care particularly. It makes no difference to me. It was that they were allowing that, like, in a year when you guys should be figuring out how you're going to Win a championship you're worried about. It's nonsense. Ultimately, it's nonsense. It doesn't have to do with the team getting better. You're talking about roster spots for fan. It just all seemed like, yo, yo, bum Chuck, small time small ball. And you're the Lakers. And you had the Celtics at the time before everything the wheels fell off. You thought were chasing another championship to get further ahead of the Lakers. And I just thought the Lakers were kind of goofing around.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then the Celtics also had a hornball as their head coach. But go ahead.

[Ty Butler]

Well, I'm not making this a franchise thing. I wasn't based this on the franchise.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Franchise. On franchise crime. Now, I disagreed with you, but we've had that argument.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I just thought it was yo, yo, they. But that's. That's who they are now. They. They do what LeBron feels like doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which by the way, he might be out like this could be it. Not NBA. But from, you know, as far as.

[Ty Butler]

A Lakers fan, are you Sad about the LeBron era coming to an end? Are you ready to like, get to a next thing?

[Peter Rosenberg]

My question is that, can you win a championship if he's your second best player at that salary? And I keep landing on. I don't think so. Because as good as he is during the regular season and we can go through the numbers, come to playoffs when you're playing every other night, he just runs out of gas and he's taking possessions off defensively. And when you're already dealing with Luka not being a defensive, you know, he's not Bruce bowen. I love LeBron. I love what he brought to this organization.

[Ty Butler]

Can you believe it's been like seven years?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the longest he's ever been with the team, which is crazy to think about.

[Ty Butler]

No, no, no. That's insane. Is that true?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, because he was seven years in Cleveland and now this is going on year eight for him and with the Lakers.

[Ty Butler]

That stat. Guys, please tweet me and tell me if you're like seven.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seven.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, this going into eight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is seven. Because it's 19, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24. Yeah, going into eight. I'm right. It's going into eight.

[Ty Butler]

If you are listening to our radio program right now, please at least tweet me and tell me if this stat just blew your mind. That blows my. Yes. Seven in Cleveland.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ty Butler]

Four in Miami. Four in Cleveland. Going into eight here. So the jersey, his hall of Fame jersey still probably ends up being a cab jersey, right? He spent the most time there overall, but this is the team that he stayed straight.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's.

[Ty Butler]

It's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's bizarre to think about.

[Ty Butler]

Man, can you believe I was at that game sitting right there in the second row.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which one?

[Ty Butler]

When Kobe went to see LeBron play against Luca, right before he died.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, with. And he got the picture with. And his daughter. You were at that game sitting right behind him. Did you get caught in any photos? Yeah, we zoom in. Oh, yeah.

[Ty Butler]

I have one framed in my house.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, the Slam magazine photo that they took. I'm in the background, me and Dip.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you blurred out or is this.

[Ty Butler]

No, it's. It's pretty clear.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's. You should mention that more context.

[Ty Butler]

First of all, it was so incredibly depressing because, like, I was always a huge Kobe fan, which I know is a weird. People don't. Whatever. Everyone thinks I'm a fraud anyway. We all have different players that we. I like. When the Lakers are good, I go to Lakers games. When I go to la, I. Even though I love rooting against the Lakers, vis a vis the Celtics, I enjoy the Lakers because I enjoy the Celtics. Lakers. Je ne sais quoi. The whole there. To me, they're forever connected. Right. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I have a. I have a. I have a Magic all star jersey. I have a. I have the gold Kobe authentic throwback. I have the Magic shooting shirt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Colby. It would have made sense. Colby worked out for the Celtics pre draft.

[Ty Butler]

Really? Hold on. That's the.

[Dave]

Hold on.

[Ty Butler]

That wouldn't have helped me at all.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but I'm saying worked out for.

[Ty Butler]

The Celtics is not a thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's got a Celtics jersey. Oh, now we're going to Magic.

[Ty Butler]

I got. Well, they're Mitchell and Ness. I have mad Mitchell nest stuff. Anyways, Love Kobe. In the early 2000s, he was my absolute favorite athlete to watch. Went to his last game in Boston, and when I went and saw that game, it was coincidental, obviously, that he was there. So Kobe walks in. I was in the ESPN seats. So ESPN la, our sister station in la, has like two areas of seats in that building, and they had these two seats that are like, right behind the floor. There's the front row. There's a little gap, and then there's seats. I'm in that seat right there. Kobe walks in, I'm like, oh, my God, Kobe's here. So me and Dipperstein are just watching Kobe. We ended up watching Kobe the whole game. We didn't even watch the game. We're just watching Kobe. Kobe interacted with LeBron. Kobe interacts with Doncic, Kobe and Gianna. We're just like watching them. And Dipperstein, ever the manager, is like, why don't you go talk to him? Because he's always wanted me to, like, you know, introduce myself to people. And I've interviewed Kobe before. Kobe's actually pretty aware. I thought there was a chance we might be able to have a nice chat. And I was like, ah, let me wait till I see him in a situation where I can like, properly talk to him. And it was funny. The whole day, my feeling on seeing him was he is someone who's finally at peace in his life.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, because.

[Ty Butler]

Because history gets rewritten. Kobe was a mess for a while, and his. His brand was a mess, but not only that, he wasn't comfortable in his own skin. He had found his way like he was a dad. He. Kobe found his way as a dad. And I was like, that's so nice that he's like in a really good place.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And then prior to that, got to finish off his career the way he wanted. You know, can't win without Shaq wins the back to back champions. He. He went out on his own sword last year. I'm done.

[Ty Butler]

Last season. Last season was horrifying. But even then scored 60.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And a game that got, I think got moved up to ESPN because that same night the warriors were going for 73, right? So ESPN had to figure out, what do we do here? Did we go for the warriors history or do we go for Kobe? Kobe gets on ESPN, scores 60. Shaq is there.

[Ty Butler]

It was awesome.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Snoop was there.

[Ty Butler]

Kendrick and Top Dog, yo, it was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was awesome. You know what breaks my heart above and above everything, as much as I love basketball, I am never gonna love a player as much as I love that dude. So that's just gone, right? Like just knowing I'm never gonna have an athlete that I love as much as Kobe, it just. It's really, really stinks.

[Ty Butler]

I will tell you this, though. You think you wouldn't because he was your childhood guy. But I will tell you, if one day your jets get a real quarterback, you never know what's still in your heart because I swear to you, I didn't think I'd ever love a player as much as I love Larry Bird or Mario Lemieux. But that Jaden Daniels, number five, if this thing keeps going, could get pretty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But basketball, and it's a close second like football and the NBA are right there like you could.

[Ty Butler]

But because basketball is your sport, Lakers are your team.

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[Ty Butler]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I didn't listen to anything you just said. Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Mustard. All right, let's get some calls real quick. But first, leaderboard updates brought to you by Schweppes. I know Ty's been locked in all day to the FedEx St. Jude Championship.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You know me well.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah. Round two action. Now Tommy Fleetwood finds himself in first place, 13 under Kala Morikawa right behind him at nine. Well, four strokes behind him. Let's see. Scotty Scheffler, seven under. That do anything for you?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Does a lot for me headed into the weekend.

[Ty Butler]

Ricky Fowler at 4 under. How about that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Ty Butler]

We Tony fee now 300. Sure, sure. Let's use dead last. Maybe we should include that. Min Woo Lee is at plus eight. And that is your leaderboard update presented by Schweppes. Schweppes offers a hole in one refreshment experience and is proud to sponsor PGA of America. Enhance your summer with Schweppes Seltzer or Schweppes Ginger Ale. By the way, you pointed out that, like, I was limping earlier, and, like, I've been like, ah, man, that kind of hurts right now. My cat. It's definitely because I walked all through the airport. I definitely did more today than I've been doing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Take the assisted. They give you a wheelchair?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, they asked. They were like, I walked in. I was like, is there anyone who can, like, help me? They're like, oh, like a wheelchair. I was like, I don't want a wheelchair. I would catch a ride with someone, like, in a car wheelchair. I'm not getting pushed by.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Someone's gonna catch a picture of you and throw that on the Internet.

[Ty Butler]

Like, I'm not. I'm not Snoop Dogg. And the Murder Was the Case video.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's definitely making rounds.

[Ty Butler]

You know, if they would let me get in the golf cart or, you know, those carts.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Saw that moving around LaGuardia today.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I see those. How do I get on that? Because, yeah, my leg is definitely humming a bit today from all the walking. Let's hit some phone calls before we get to enn. Let's go to Chris in Rockaway. What up, Chris?

[Dave]

Hey, what's going on, guys? Love you guys. As a duo, I have two quick things. One, on yesterday, you were talking about Jaden Samuels or Jaden Daniels and his second season. And I was curious if you. If you knew what the Latin word, like the meaning of the word sophomore in Latin was.

[Ty Butler]

Of what?

[Dave]

Sophomore. Like a second season sophomore.

[Ty Butler]

Oh, what does sophomore actually mean? I don't know.

[Dave]

Yeah, it means wise fool. And so you used to always, like, tell us that. That for the second season when you play in college, a lot of people kicked off the team because you just naturally go backwards. So I think 9 and 8 in a playoff win should be the ceiling, and that would be a great ceiling for Jaden. And the other piece I just want to mention on Jameis Winston. I'm a Jets fan. Just from core memories. I actually hate the way the organizations run, but I just wish he came to the jets because his positivity is just incredible. And I think the good versus evil of the aura and awfulness and curse of the Jets, I just would love for him to. To be in, you know, the other side of the locker room. I don't know if you see the viral videos with the field goal challenge, but I think it would have Been like the ultimate good versus evil test. And I'll leave it and listen to you guys.

[Ty Butler]

Thank you. Chris. I, it's an interesting, interesting thing about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The definition of sophomore wise got a wise fool. Yeah, yeah, very interesting. I didn't know that until I just looked it up.

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I pulled a Dave Rothenberg during Stump. Rothenberg. You asked the question, you just look it up.

[Ty Butler]

No, that's not what happened. That's. This is different. You didn't break any sort of. Let's see, let's. Speaking of Dave, let's hear from Dave. Not Dave Rothenberg, Dave the person.

[Dave]

Yeah, guys, thanks. 30, 35 minutes ago. Ty, you said a call a cold K everything. You don't know the name, whatever. Okay? So when you do a show, if you're going to refer to someone, use their name because you can remember everything I said which you wrong. Why don't you remember my name is Dave and clues. Because I remember your name. I don't say, oh Mr. Show today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don't come, don't come on chatting like that.

[Dave]

Okay, okay, okay, so let me talk to you about my.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, the caller I heard. I did not remember your name. It was not a sign of disrespect. I did not remember your name. You called the talk. Yeah, but like TI said you started with some bull, so stop it.

[Dave]

No, there we go. Why is it bull? Because it's opposite you.

[Ty Butler]

No, cuz it's a reach.

[Dave]

Hello, why, why is it both of his opposite your tape? Listen, Derek Jeter, okay, He has kids, okay? Wow. We all have kids. He can bring his kids, right? He has private planes many times in old time as they brought children many times.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, cornball, you sound like you're cornier than me.

[Dave]

You're cornier than me. Listen, let me tell you, I'll go toe to toe with you any minute, okay? You're way cornier and people don't people know that. But let me tell you this, that's not, we're not trying to take hits on each other here, all right? Because it's not like that. It's a talk. It.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I'm taking hits on you because you came. Hi Dave. Good night. Good night. Good night, Dave. Good night.

[Ty Butler]

I, I kind of didn't pay attention to the first thing he said. The first thing he said was that you referenced him and you didn't reference his name.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His name. I, I, I like legitimately did not remember his name. I said I was listening to the K show and it was someone who Called in and he was irate about Jeter not attending Old Timers Day. And he's. He thought that I was doing it out of a sign of disrespect.

[Ty Butler]

You should have memorized. When you heard him, you go, that's Dave from Queens. And sometimes people are a little.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Guys, come on, man.

[Ty Butler]

And by the way. Don't, don't. Everybody's got kids, all right? And guess what? And you don't have the opportunity to play an Old Timers game, Right? None of us do. To us, it would be the biggest deal in the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He should have brought the kids.

[Ty Butler]

Derek.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yankee Stadium. Come on.

[Ty Butler]

Derek.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Serious. Had a serious phone call.

[Ty Butler]

Derek Jeter has the opportunity to be a part of Old Timers Day every year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that a serious phone call?

[Ty Butler]

Well, no, it's not weird to bring your kids, but, like, that doesn't solve the problem.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The entirety of the phone call was ridiculous. They were coming at me because I didn't remember.

[Ty Butler]

It's Dave from Queens, for God's sake. I think he made a salient point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he's saying, I know you have this birthday party scheduled, Derek Jeter, but maybe you should rethink that and bring your kids to Yankee Stadium, because how dare you not miss the Old Timer's Day. Come on. Is that a serious phone call?

[Ty Butler]

If. If you cared about going, then moving. Your daughter's birthday is obviously on the table. That's you. That's not hard. You could do that. Hey, baby. Sorry, it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But he doesn't have to, and he doesn't want to go obligated to do that.

[Ty Butler]

Like, I just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And this is the dude who I said, who was.

[Ty Butler]

When is it enough for you people? By the way, Judge, it's. It's not enough. And I get it, because he hasn't performed in the playoffs. Derek Jeter may be the greatest Yankee playoff performer of all time. It's not enough that it doesn't come to Old Timers Day. When is it enough? Who. Who gives you enough?

[Peter Rosenberg]

And yes, Dave, you are cornball.

[Ty Butler]

You don't seem in the day from Queens.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, he's just. There's a couple of things that, in the heat of the battle that I got to remember. I got to remember who I am, what I do right? Who I pray to at night. I gotta remember.

[Ty Butler]

You gotta keep your. Stay focused.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Gotta keep myself disciplined, because that's the type of phone call that'll send me off the radio.

[Ty Butler]

By the way, you got very. It's funny, that wasn't one that Would have bothered me as much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just don't like the way he came at me. You came at me crazy. That's the. That's the problem. That's the problem. You came at me on some energy. That was crazy.

[Ty Butler]

It's so funny.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't feel that way.

[Ty Butler]

I'm not triggered usually by the way they come at me. It's the. What did they say? Because sometimes it sounds like they're gonna come at me crazy, but then what they're saying it about is benign and I don't care. But when. That's very funny.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The energy was wild off the rip.

[Ty Butler]

The energy wasn't great. It wasn't great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But anyway, game time.

[Ty Butler]

But you know, I have strong theories about black men and white men having different lines of offense.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We go in the race route.

[Ty Butler]

It's true. It's true. Because there are certain things that white guys will say to each other and it's nothing. And I've said it. And then I said it to a black guy and they were like, did you just invite me to your genitals?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, that's great.

[Ty Butler]

I'm like, I said, that's my brother yesterday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a no. No, you can't. You can't say that. Game time. Brought to you by Tullamore Due Irish whiskey. Because when it's game time, it's Tully time. The Mets visit the brewers tonight Coverage immediately following me at 7:30. I think I'm on with Peter until 7:30 tonight, so that should be fun.

[Ty Butler]

Let's see how that goes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, I think we have a drop for this. Jacob, are you staying on with me until 7:30?

[Ty Butler]

Yeah, I should.

[Dave]

He.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He.

[Ty Butler]

Look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's.

[Ty Butler]

He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The Yankees host the Astros at 705. The Liberty visit the Wings at 7:30. Tullamore, do the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured average whiskey. Be sure to grab a telemore. Doer. Try the new Telemurdo, honey. During today's action, glasses up to enjoying Telemardu responsibly. Enn is next on 880 ESPN.

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