Hour 3: Rodgers, Old Cars, Metal Music

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Rodgers, Old Cars, Metal Music

Release Date: February 13, 2025
Hosts: Don La Greca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Platform: ESPN New York and New Jersey

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1. Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets Split

Timestamp: [00:30]

The episode kicks off with Don Hahn delving into the recent and unexpected split between Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets. He questions the timing and necessity of the Jets' decision, especially considering that the team hadn't solidified their next quarterback choice.

Don Hahn ([00:30]): "Was it too soon to do this? Did they need to put this announcement out and make it official when they don't know who their next quarterback is?"

Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg echo these sentiments, expressing frustration over the Jets' recurring struggles to maintain a stable quarterback lineup.

2. The Jets' Perennial Quarterback Crisis

Timestamp: [02:05] - [07:13]

Rosenberg and Hahn dissect the Jets' persistent issues with quarterback management. They reflect on Rodgers' tenure, highlighting the failed "Camelot" era and attributing the team's downfall to a mix of injuries, poor decisions, and a seemingly cursed franchise mindset.

Peter Rosenberg ([02:13]): "And also we can now assess what an absolute disaster it was. Who would have thought it would turn out this poorly?"

Don Hahn ([04:14]): "And there's nothing you could do with the juju. Right? It's just, all right, that's it."

The conversation underscores the Jets' inability to develop and retain effective quarterbacks, drawing parallels with past seasons where promising starts were derailed by unforeseen circumstances like Rodgers' Achilles injury.

3. Comparison with the New York Giants

Timestamp: [10:07] - [13:33]

Shifting focus, the hosts compare the Jets' quarterback woes with the Giants' struggles in maintaining a steady quarterback presence since Eli Manning. They critique the Giants' drafting decisions, particularly the oversight of promising quarterbacks like JJ McCarthy, which left them scrambling for replacements.

Peter Rosenberg ([08:57]): "With the Giants, with Saquon? I say, don't be mad that they didn't sign Saquon, be mad that they never were good enough to keep them."

Hahn and Rosenberg emphasize the importance of not just drafting talent but also fostering an environment where quarterbacks can thrive, as exemplified by successful franchises like Philadelphia.

4. Drafting and Developing Quarterbacks

Timestamp: [13:06] - [16:37]

The discussion transitions to the intricacies of drafting quarterbacks, where Hahn highlights the necessity of having the right coaching staff to nurture young talent. They debate whether recent draft picks, such as Shador Sanders, possess the pro-ready qualities required to lead a franchise.

Don Hahn ([15:20]): "The one thing that I think is prevailing about him is that he's the most pro ready mentally and physically."

Peter Rosenberg adds that while some quarterbacks show promise, the real-world application of their skills remains to be seen, drawing comparisons to other notable QBs like Trevor Lawrence and Patrick Mahomes.

5. Personal Stories: Old Cars and Generation Gaps

Timestamp: [17:00] - [32:24]

Shifting gears from sports, the hosts engage in a nostalgic conversation about their first cars, reminiscing about classic models like the Dodge Aspen, Gran Torino, and Volkswagen Beetle. They reflect on the independence that came with driving and contrast it with the younger generation's reliance on services like Uber.

Peter Rosenberg ([27:10]): "I'm just sitting there crying, holding the baby. Cause it's different when you're 26 and you have a baby."

The dialogue paints a vivid picture of past automotive culture, highlighting the transformation in how younger generations perceive driving and personal transportation.

6. Listener Engagement and Humorous Banter

Timestamp: [33:06] - [43:57]

The episode becomes interactive as listeners call in with comments, leading to humorous exchanges. Notably, a prank call involving a hypothetical discussion about Yankees' strategy prompts laughter and light-hearted teasing among the hosts.

Peter Rosenberg ([36:55]): "Don't cry, get back on the field."

These segments showcase the hosts' chemistry and ability to entertain beyond serious discussions, adding a relatable and fun dynamic to the show.

7. Final Thoughts: Transition Back to Sports and Legacy of the Franchise

Timestamp: [44:00] - [49:39]

Wrapping up, Don Hahn shares his admiration for the Brooklyn Nets' coaching staff, praising Jordy Fernandez for instilling a winning mentality despite the team's current standing. The conversation circles back to the core theme of leadership and culture in sports franchises.

Don Hahn ([47:12]): "Jordy Fernandez is a phenomenal. They hired a terrific coach. He is first. He's on point."

The hosts conclude by emphasizing the importance of a strong coaching foundation in building successful teams, reinforcing the episode's initial discussions about the Jets and quarterback management.

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Notable Quotes

• Don Hahn ([00:30]): "Was it too soon to do this? Did they need to put this announcement out and make it official when they don't know who their next quarterback is?"

• Peter Rosenberg ([02:13]): "And also we can now assess what an absolute disaster it was. Who would have thought it would turn out this poorly?"

• Don Hahn ([04:14]): "And there's nothing you could do with the juju. Right? It's just, all right, that's it."

• Don Hahn ([15:20]): "The one thing that I think is prevailing about him is that he's the most pro ready mentally and physically."

• Peter Rosenberg ([27:10]): "I'm just sitting there crying, holding the baby. Cause it's different when you're 26 and you have a baby."

• Don Hahn ([33:04]): "What’s the most underrated part, in my opinion, the thing I was most proud of in that performance..."

• Don Hahn ([47:12]): "Jordy Fernandez is a phenomenal. They hired a terrific coach. He is first. He's on point."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Don, Hahn & Rosenberg, the hosts provide a comprehensive analysis of the New York Jets' ongoing struggles with quarterback management, using Aaron Rodgers' departure as a focal point. They intertwine technical sports critiques with personal anecdotes about vintage cars and generational shifts, offering a balanced and engaging narrative. The blend of serious discussion and playful banter ensures that listeners are both informed and entertained, making it a valuable listen for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

This is Don Hahn and Rosenberg. It's not a surprise that the jets and Aaron Rodgers are splitting. And then we now put ourselves back into that dance of who's it going to be? And I think that's been the biggest problem here with what a lot of people are feeling with this is. I don't know if many people say they shouldn't move on from Aaron Rodgers. You have a new coach, you have a new gm. They want to have their stamp on the organization. Aaron Glenn clearly wants this to be. I'm the voice and there's no other bigger voice than me. But you have him in house. You don't have to do anything till June 1. Was it too soon to do this? Did they need to put this announcement out and make it official when they don't know who their next quarterback is? Don Hahn and Rosenberg on 8 80, ESPN. And that's the question is that they make the announcement now and it's not a surprise. We all saw this coming. Well, kind of had a feeling this was coming and now it's official. Aaron Rodgers, that era is over. And while a lot of people want to talk about. Okay, reflect on it. No, no, there's nothing to reflect on. Camelot was an off season two years ago. After that it was a disaster. It did not work. The injury and everything else. Some things out of his control, some things in his control, and some things were just the jets jetting. But now we're at that point, guys, where it's that phrase I saw in the, in the, in the release moving in a different direction at quarterback. It feels like that has been the motto of the New York jets for 50 plus years. It's been just constantly trying to find that guy and we're back on that boat again.

[Rosenberg]

And also we can now assess what an absolute disaster it was. Who would have thought it would turn out this poorly?

[Don Hahn]

Everybody thought so. Disney wanted to believe it would be this much of a disaster. Oh, I had so many people calling in, like about how you're going to regret this. It's a disaster. I talked to people in Green Bay. They're like, oh, he's such a pain.

[Peter]

No, no, no.

[Don Hahn]

I kept saying, oh, it's gonna be great. They haven't had a guy this good. Don, listen, it was.

[Peter]

I don't often. No, I do sometimes. I don't always get on my high.

[Don Hahn]

Horse, but when I do, I said this was.

[Peter]

I said this was going to go terrible. I said, and of course you said, what's your reason for that? It's just because it's the jets. And you weren't wrong. It wasn't a fair take, but I think I did feel the way a lot of people felt. Which this is going to go really bad. But the fact that it started with an instant horrifying injury, right. And ended that. No one could have fathomed it being this bad.

[Rosenberg]

But that's it though. But that's the reason we don't have a moment. We don't know how 2023 would have went down if he didn't get hurt.

[Don Hahn]

Exactly.

[Rosenberg]

And for all we know, that team would have made a run. They had talent, they had a great preseason. Aaron Rodgers was saying and doing all the right things and then he tore his Achilles and it all fell apart. So you could sit there on your high horses of fancy. I told you this was going to happen. Okay. You would have been right had he had just been what he was in 2024, in 2023 and just never was all that great, never won a big game then you could say that. But this all went sideways when he tore his Achilles. Now if you want to blame them for the poor offensive line, if you want to blame them and say, well, that's what happens when you get a 39 year old quarterback. But when they got him, the logic told you they're a better team. They won seven games without him with Zach Wilson. So if he can. If he can recover from the Achilles, which he got off to the slow start and it never took place. If the Achilles didn't go, what would the 2023 jets had been and maybe they would have been a 10, 11 win team had gone to the playoffs and be able to build off of that going into 2024. It all went wrong. Four plays in I. It just.

[Peter]

It.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's so Jets. But no, you can't hang on the rim and say I told you so. Who saw that coming? I thought a failure was going to be. They'd be good but not great. They'll make the Playoffs and they'll lose in the first round or they'll. They'll win nine, 10 games and miss the playoffs. I didn't think this was going to happen, that he would. Basically they give him credit for the win against Buffalo because he was the starting quarterback, but who would have thought in two years he would win five games? Come on. Nobody had that on their bingo card. Nobody.

[Peter]

These are the nightmare things that happen when you're part of a cursed franchise. That's the word I. This curse is the word. This is like. This is like when I saw after the 2012 season and I saw RG3 crumple on the field, his leg destroyed, I went, oh, well, no, we can't have anything. We're cursed. We can't have anything. Rogers falling apart this way. Don. I know, I know we can't believe in magic or voodoo or whatever, however you want to describe it, but there's something broken about this franchise. And none of these quick fixes can do anything here.

[Rosenberg]

Just can't. And there's nothing you could do with the juju. Right? It's just, all right, that's it. And then if that's the case, then why even bother rooting for the. I've always never got to change.

[Peter]

You got to find New Jersey.

[Rosenberg]

However, where we can blame the jets that it went as sideways as it did was not having a viable backup quarterback when Rodgers went down.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Rosenberg]

That's where they were being stubborn. Oh, well, what bad can happen? Nothing ever bad happens here.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, we had to have. We had to have. His buddy Tim Boyle, had to be the third quarterback. Tim Boyle.

[Rosenberg]

So that's, that's because maybe, Peter, if they had. If they had Tyrod Taylor, if they had a good backup quarterback or decent backup quarterback, then Maybe they win nine, 10 games and salvage it. They won seven games.

[Don Hahn]

Done.

[Rosenberg]

My big joke is they won seven games with Venus de Milo as quarterback. They didn't have any other option. It was an embarrassment. That's where you blame the Jets. But as far as the tearing of the Achilles, that's just. That's so Jets. But I can't blame anybody for that. It was worth the try. And I still believe in my heart, Allen, that Woody Johnson sits there and would probably do it again. Because for two years all we did was talk about the Jets. For a team that didn't do anything for two seasons, they dominated the summer of 2023 leading into getting Rodgers national games, all the national games, the hard knocks, all the attention for two garbage seasons, all we did was talk about the Jets. I'm sure Woody's back there going, hey, wow, look at my irrelevant franchise all of a sudden became pretty relevant. But for all the wrong.

[Don Hahn]

If you ask the Nets, would they do it over again with Kyrie and KD as a big of a disaster that turned into.

[Rosenberg]

I gotta tell you, I don't know what the logic is. It was worth the try though, right?

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, of course.

[Don Hahn]

And the jets still try it.

[Rosenberg]

Who thought there'd be a vaccine issue? And still.

[Don Hahn]

And the injuries, don't forget the injuries.

[Rosenberg]

You're a half an inch away from that being a three instead of a two and you're advancing. Who knows where they would have gone had that not been a point.

[Don Hahn]

But my point is, is like that's why you, you take these shots when your franchises like that, that are desperate, that are just. Again, the jets are. They're in the dregs. They can't get out of it. And they've tried over and over again to get out of it. Even Rex's years that feel like the glory years, the glory years are losing in the championship game, that's not glorious. That's supposed to be the beginning of something. When you reach that far. Not. That's the best we did. And that's the problem is that you hang on to that rather than what you can build. They, they are, they, they are so desperate. And then the year after that, what do they do? They start swinging for fences. And that's when you make your mistakes. It goes with bad decision making, it goes with bad leadership, and it goes with a culture that is what Peter said is cursed. And I'm sorry, Don, you are looking at it from an analytical standpoint, which is what you should, because you have no motion in it. I do. And so when they got Rogers, I had the hope with hopelessness because I had nothing to base it on. I was just hoping this might stick. That's. There was no foundation for me to believe that it would. Because no matter how great of a quarterback that he. If Patrick Mahomes demanded a trade to the Jets, I would not say to myself, well, they're going to be great for the next 10 years cuz they got Patrick Mahomes. I would wonder what the hell's wrong with Patrick Mahomes. Something's going to happen. Something bad is always going to happen because it always does.

[Rosenberg]

What did I, what did I say about. With the Giants, with Saquon? I say, don't be mad that they didn't sign Saquon be mad that they never were good enough to keep them.

[Don Hahn]

Exactly.

[Rosenberg]

The jets the same thing. Don't be mad that they went after Aaron Rodgers. Be mad that they were in a position to have to go after Aaron Rodgers because they whiffed on Zach Wilson.

[Don Hahn]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

If they don't zip on, if they don't screw that up, if they don't whiff on Zach Wilson, they wouldn't need to try the Hail Mary and Aaron Rodgers. It was still worth the try because there was no other alternative. Don't tell me all the Derek Carr. Look what happened with Carr in New Orleans. They're trying to get. He hurts his shoulder. They're trying to get out of the car game now. It was worth the try, but who thought he was going to get hurt? It's just one of those things, man.

[Don Hahn]

And now we are in a place where both franchises are looking for the franchise quarterback and they could end up having to try to get the same guy. We could see these two, whether it's a free agent or whether it's a guy in the draft. They might both be vying for the same guy. And who's going to get the guy first? Who's it going to be? At least the Giants had Eli Manning, but even now he's becoming their Joe namath or Ken O'Brien. Like they haven't had a steady quarterback since Eli and now they're going to search again.

[Rosenberg]

They only had the one swing and miss with Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones.

[Don Hahn]

They, they. But that obviously was the swing and miss. It's there. Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez was a miss that high in the draft and he only lasted as long as he lasted and the first two years were not because he was so great. This is not like what you have in Jaden Daniels. Well, Mark Sanchez, God bless him, was play action pass in a run game like this wasn't. He wasn't doing what Jaden Daniels did. So I know that was not like your answer. That was a miss that high up, trading up.

[Rosenberg]

But they also didn't help the situation because like as you said, they did go to back to back championship games.

[Don Hahn]

Not on his arm.

[Rosenberg]

Not on his arm. But he also didn't make the mistakes. I mean, got to give him some credit, right? He's the quarterback that was in the final.

[Don Hahn]

Schottenheimer knew what to run. Right.

[Rosenberg]

But. But the fact that he didn't grow is what's been said for decades with this team is then why can't they develop these guys? Why do you think Philadelphia is so good. They don't have a ton of household names on that defense. They've got, they've taken chances. I mean, you look at the guys.

[Don Hahn]

That, you know, I still push household names, right? The guys they drafted are from Georgia and Alabama.

[Rosenberg]

No, I get it. But it's not like they, there's no.

[Don Hahn]

Those are, those are some of the top defensive players in college football.

[Rosenberg]

But they drafted in the secondary. When you usually don't do that, you know, you go out and get a free agent running back, you usually don't do that. You draft shorter wide receivers, usually you don't do that, but you get guys that just fit the way they do things. Your franchise quarterback is a guy they were able to take in the second round. And you've been to two of the last three Super Bowls and you've just come up a Super bowl championship. Because why you've got a general manager, knows what he's doing. You can develop players. There's no easy fix. Guys in sports, especially football, you draft these guys. But what are you going to do with them? Are you going to make them better?

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

You know, why didn't Becton work here with the jets, but then he goes to Philadelphia and he works now, is that because he went to a team that was good and he finally tried and cared and lost some weight, or did they know what buttons to push on the guy?

[Don Hahn]

So it starts with what we were talking about the other day. Stop chasing stars and get yourself a coach. Get the best coach, get somebody that sets a standard. And now when I get a player, I have a guy that can teach and develop and make them better. Because that, you're right, that does not exist here. And that's been a big problem, especially at quarterback. And so you have a defensive minded head coach, you have a young offensive coordinator that's never been a coordinator at the NFL level. And now if you're going to draft, let's say they want to draft Shador Sanders and the jets are at seven and they have to like with Mike Tannenbaum said, do what I did. Okay? So you got to trade up in the draft with a team that isn't going to draft the quarterback, give up assets, future assets to go to Jacksonville or even if New England would even want to help you, which I doubt. So Jacksonville would have to be the team and see if they'll help you get ahead of the Raiders. So you could get Shador Sanders. But do you have the right people in place to develop Shador Sanders? Because you get the guy defensive minded.

[Rosenberg]

Head coach, is he the guy that.

[Peter]

You'Re in love with? Not just the guy who's available right now? Because I.

[Don Hahn]

It has to be that you're right. So you don't do it if it's not the guy. It's like let's say they love Sanders but not Ward. Then the Giants take Sanders. Ward's on the table and you don't love Ward, you're done.

[Peter]

So A, do you love the player? And B, are you in the position to develop the player?

[Don Hahn]

Well, first is get the player. Then figure out how do I get the right one year to teach this guy.

[Peter]

One, do you love him?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Two, can you get him? Three, can you develop him?

[Don Hahn]

And what. What with. With Daniels? Because that right now has become the example of everybody in the league wanting something like that. Was it Cliff Kingsbury? Was it as simple as they got together? And it worked. It was perfect.

[Peter]

Well, I think it's two things. Three things maybe with Jaden Daniels. One is who he is. So I think the people who knew him knew, like I was saying to you guys the other day, the freakish stuff he does. He literally at 6am every day going and doing virtual reality. He's on a different dude. I don't know if you guys noticed how much Jayden Daniels talked last week. He did like every bit of press during the Super Bowl. You know why that is? He didn't do a thing all year. All he did was his local like the required commander's press conferences. Nothing else. Not a commercial, not a thing. So he's an animal. Number one, he's focused. Kingsbury I think is the perfect guy for that. It's obviously worked out. And three, and this is such a big one. It's the pieces Adam Peters added to make a guy like that comfortable. Was there a huge market in people dying to get Austin Eckler? I don't know. But that was a nice piece to give a young quarterback to get comfortable. So it's a. You have to do several things, right? They don't often turn into something right away. Are people really that sure? Everyone all is completely sure that shirt your Sanders is a star in this league.

[Rosenberg]

No, I've heard people say that all the quarterbacks that were taken in last year's draft would be taken before any of them in this one that we've.

[Don Hahn]

Heard that only pushback I will have is this with Sanders. Is I from a lot of stuff that I've read and I've listened to a bunch of podcasts over the last week or so, just to get caught up on this. And I've watched Sanders as much as I could during the college season.

[Peter]

I've watched him a handful of times as well.

[Don Hahn]

The one thing that I think is prevailing about him is that he's the most pro ready mentally and physically. Like. Like when it comes to his ability. First of all, he'd be a great Giant or Jet because he never has an offensive line. Right. He's already used to that. But his ability to process, he stays cool, doesn't. Doesn't panic, rarely makes a bad throw. Ridiculously accurate, like all the things you want. And then he's kind of grown up in the pedigree of a pro and a star. So this isn't something if. Especially coming to a big market, you think he's gonna be caught up in the lights and cameras and action.

[Peter]

No, he's had it the whole time.

[Don Hahn]

For him, this is like. Yeah, whatever. Like, that's. That's a regular day for him. He's got cameras following around his whole life because of his father.

[Peter]

So he could.

[Don Hahn]

So he feels like a guy that he could hit.

[Peter]

But we're not sure that he's a guy.

[Don Hahn]

Well, of course not.

[Peter]

You're not sure, but very rare.

[Don Hahn]

We thought Trevor Lawrence was a generational chemist. How's that working out, by the way?

[Peter]

I still think.

[Don Hahn]

Right.

[Peter]

I still think Trevor Lawrence is going to be a very good quarterback if.

[Don Hahn]

They get right in that organization.

[Peter]

But is he what they thought he would be?

[Rosenberg]

He's not a camp miss. We're still waiting. He did parlay into a big contract, and Jacksonville still hopes that they'll get the most out of it. We haven't seen it yet. And then, you know, the greatest quarterback ever in some people's eyes, Patrick Mahomes, was taken 10th overall.

[Don Hahn]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

Josh Allen was not the first quarterback taken in that draft. But you look at last year, the.

[Peter]

Two that people talked about last year, though, are both turning into guys. Daniels and Williams are both guys. I mean, I think Caleb's going to be a guy, so it certainly looks like that.

[Don Hahn]

He certainly hopes so. But he also had his, you know, his issues as well. Jay in Staten Island. What's up, Jay? Oh, hey.

[Peter]

Hey, guys. How you doing? I love you guys.

[Don Hahn]

Don.

[Rosenberg]

Happy, happy birthday.

[Peter]

And I'm one of those guys, those jets fans who's done with Rodgers, too.

[Rosenberg]

So I'm happy to see him go. But real quick, the Jet, we're talking about drafting quarterbacks.

[Peter]

And the jets drafted a quarterback in 2024.

[Don Hahn]

I know it was a fifth round pick.

[Peter]

I know it was the previous regime.

[Rosenberg]

But this kid has been sitting in a quarterback room with two vets, one.

[Peter]

Of them being Aaron Rodgers, for the last year.

[Don Hahn]

I mean, wouldn't they.

[Peter]

Wouldn't it be the fair thing or the right thing or the smart thing at least to give him a shot, see what the kids got, rather than.

[Rosenberg]

Talking about picking a quarterback in a later round this year?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, Jay. And a lot of people ask about it, and it's certainly the right thing to ask because this was a guy who was a Heisman finalist. This was a guy that everybody loved. He was his team. Look, the minute he got hurt, and that was a gruesome injury, many got hurt. His team completely tanked and should have never been in the playoff. Like it was. Like everybody got upset and it was clear he was everything for that team. He has not. He was great. Remember, he just spent a whole year and he has never been. He has not been on the field. He's still recovering from the injury. So they have no idea what he is physically as an NFL player. And so you can't just go, oh, he's our guy. They've got to give him at least a year to just practice. But Jay, don't get back.

[Rosenberg]

Don't sleep on the fact that you might get your wish where you start the season with Tyrod Taylor as your starting quarterback. Jordan Travis has a great sprint, a great preseason. He's the backup and then eventually is given that opportunity, though the only two quarterbacks the jets have that are under contract, everything else to me is air. If I'm the Jets, I don't know who I could draft. I don't know who I can get in free agency. I know who I want, but that doesn't mean those guys will agree to come here. So the only, the only certainty, they know, and any good general manager will tell you, they don't deal in hypotheticals, they only deal in the reality. And the reality is they have two quarterbacks that are under contract. So if they feel like they want to give him a chance and they like Tyrod Taylor as a quarterback, don't be surprised about opening day. Those are your quarterbacks. And if Travis doesn't work out, don't have a great season, then you draft a quarterback or you kick the can down the road. Don't just take a quarterback because you feel like you have to take it. The one thing that's so frustrating about this conversation about the draft guys is we don't know how these general managers feel about these quarterbacks. No one has said they're a can't miss. And even if they did, that doesn't mean it's true. As we talked about with Trevor Lawrence, I don't know how these two general managers in New York feel about these quarterbacks, Right. I certainly don't have enough knowledge to tell you that they're can't miss. I know the Giants and Jets need quarterbacks, but I don't know if these guys are the ones that we saw the Giants.

[Don Hahn]

We saw the giants pass on JJ McCarthy, who they spent a lot of time with in the draft process. They passed on him to take a more higher end talent at another position. So if they were desperate to get a quarterback, basically anybody but Daniel was like, basically the refrain, right? They just knew for Dable he was done. But they didn't take McCarthy. They could have just to. Just to take a guy. But they didn't.

[Rosenberg]

They didn't.

[Don Hahn]

And that tells you that unless you love him, you don't take him. And I think that's the same situation the jets would be in. And For Travis, he's 6 1, 200 pounds, like he's dislocated ankle, fractured ankle. It's a lot to expect them to suddenly give him the ball. He's got to prove that he could just get back and play football again before you can even start penciling him in in your top three, let alone to be a guy to consider giving him the ball.

[Rosenberg]

We've asked Susan about it, we've asked, there was somebody else with Rich Samini. And when we ask it, it's almost as if. Why did you even ask? He's not even on anybody's radar.

[Don Hahn]

Not in the radar.

[Rosenberg]

That doesn't mean he's not on this regime.

[Don Hahn]

It would be great surprise if he just suddenly shows up and now he's balling out and by some point mid season you're like, wow, he's really showing us a lot in practice now. But he's got to get on the field first, which has not happened yet.

[Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

It takes me back to the car.

[Don Hahn]

Like, what do we got? What did you, what did you drive back then?

[Rosenberg]

The first car that I ever had was my mom's Dodge aspen.

[Don Hahn]

Aspen dodge aspen.

[Rosenberg]

79 dodge aspen.

[Don Hahn]

I gotta see this. Let me see.

[Rosenberg]

The first car that I ever purchased with my own money was a 75 Gran Torino for 500 bucks.

[Don Hahn]

Gran Torino.

[Rosenberg]

What a mess that car was.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I've seen the Aspen.

[Rosenberg]

That was a mom car. But you know.

[Don Hahn]

Well, yeah, I guess it depended if you had the four door, then it was a four door, not a coupe. Cause the coupe had a little bit of a muscle car look to it.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, this was a four door. It was a mom car. That was the car that. It was a 79. So my mom bought it when I was 11 years old and that was taking me to baseball practice and football practice and all that. Then after the Gran Torino fiasco, Gran Torino, which was just a mess, had all kinds of problems. For another 500 bucks I got a 1974 Galaxy 500. And then that 74 yeah. And then that one, that one. All of a sudden, like, there was these blue fumes that were coming out of the air condition.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, the Galaxy. Look at this.

[Rosenberg]

Because my dad wanted me in a car that I would survive any kind of accidents. These were like, well, this, this is.

[Don Hahn]

This is definitely a tank. So the Galaxy that you driving is akin to the car that my first car, which I, I basically I inherited. My dad's 79 Oldsmobile Delta 88.

[Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Don Hahn]

And this was seriously, like, you could drive this into a brick wall and the wall would fall down. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

There was like, no, there was no chance that anybody would be harmed except who, whatever you hit, because these things, like, they were tanks. And then my dad gave me with a lap belt, his Chevy Impala station wagon.

[Don Hahn]

Impala station wagon.

[Rosenberg]

This thing was a monster as well. My father, My father told this story.

[Don Hahn]

Oh my God, that's an unsightly vehicle.

[Rosenberg]

During the gas crisis, which is what was like 78.

[Don Hahn]

78, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

There were lines for gas. Gas was like, the prices were astronomical. My dad bought a Volkswagen Bug. Like he can go like, for three bucks, he can drive for like two weeks.

[Don Hahn]

How'd you fit in it?

[Rosenberg]

And my dad loved that car. He beat the hell out of it. The thing was tremendous, like a Beetle. Like the actual things were built like the, like it's engine in the back. Not complimenting, but people say that it was kind of. It was invented by Hitler because he wanted a car that can drive on any terrain, can float in the water and stuff. And then, you know, Volkswagen made the Bug. Then it came here to the United States and it was great. But the problem is the trunk was in the front and you wouldn't survive hitting the curb.

[Don Hahn]

No.

[Rosenberg]

So my grandfather, my mom's father said, no, no, I'm giving you my car. You're not driving around. And I forget what it was, but it was just some sort of like beast that was. It was like got two miles to the gallon. And my father was all upset. Ltd, you know, now he's spending a hundred bucks for gas a month when he was spending like six bucks. I remember. Got him so old that I remember.

[Don Hahn]

What's the oldest car you remember your parents having?

[Rosenberg]

Well, my. When the first car that they ever had was a Dodge Cornet. Check that out. That was kind of a sports.

[Don Hahn]

My father.

[Rosenberg]

That was nice.

[Don Hahn]

Well, my father, My father had the station wagon version of the cornet.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Don Hahn]

Which was, which was not a sports car.

[Rosenberg]

So that was probably, that was probably a 67, maybe yeah, this one was.

[Don Hahn]

Like a 73 or something like that.

[Rosenberg]

So that was. That was a really nice car. That was kind of like a sports.

[Don Hahn]

My mother had the, the Dart.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, I remember that.

[Don Hahn]

And that was. It was a coupe. And this thing was. Was kind of fun. It was the slant six engine, which was. It was not the eight cylinder monster. Like, it was easier on gas, but it had a little pep.

[Rosenberg]

Do you remember what I was gonna say is that there was times where like I had $5. I get $5 worth of gas.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, I remember that.

[Rosenberg]

You get like half a tank, quarter tank, you know. But now I don't know if anybody.

[Don Hahn]

You remember gas at 99 cents, right?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Don Hahn]

99 cents a gallon, regular gas.

[Rosenberg]

But I would go and get, you know, throw 10 bucks in, 5 bucks in, whatever, and you were good. It's. It's weird the what I'm finding out from who you probably know. I lived to get my driver's license. I counted the days to get my driver's license. And I was never like a car guy, Alan. But I wanted a car. I wanted to drive.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

There's a generation of kids now, they turn 17, I don't care. I get Uber. Like, they, they don't feel the. Doesn't end the same drive. That's a car.

[Peter]

I read it's not hitting the same.

[Don Hahn]

One of the. One of the. Well, it used to be a magazine, but now, you know, everything's online. I don't know if it was time or one of them did a whole study on the generation, whatever the generation is now and how they're seeing the numbers are declining in new drivers at the first eligible age. Massive decline. Like, a lot of them just don't want to be bothered.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's a different.

[Don Hahn]

Used to be a rite of pass.

[Rosenberg]

Because I will tell you why. And this is unless I'm going to get really deep in the weeds here, but it's going to come out.

[Peter]

I think we're already there, by the way.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, come at me, bro.

[Peter]

We're already doing car talk, but this.

[Don Hahn]

Is good car talk.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's like I loved my parents, but there was something about the independence of being able to be on my own, to drive, take myself wherever I want. Your music, I don't think. I think there's a generation of kids that they'll stay home till they're 40. Like, they don't care. But there was a time where it's like, when I'm 18, I'm gone now. I wasn't necessarily gone. I went to college. But that feeling of, I'm ready to be a man now. I'm ready to be able to make my own decisions. One of the coolest things when I drove is I was able to go to places that I can only go to when my parents took me. Like, I'd go to the mall, I would drive to a restaurant that I only went. My parents went to be able to walk into the Kurth Cottage over on Kurth Cottage? Yeah, over on 46 and go in there and have a meal without my parents being there. Now I just think there's a generation of kids, you know what? I'll stay here till I die.

[Peter]

So you're saying you feel you would turn on Bobby Brown's My Prerogative, play it as loud as you could and just drive around doing nothing?

[Rosenberg]

I don't think I'd play that. I'd probably play, like, Slayer, Raining Blood. But the message is the same, is, like, time to move on. And then I'd run out of money.

[Peter]

You're gonna do what you want to do.

[Don Hahn]

Raining Blood.

[Peter]

Not exactly my prerogative.

[Don Hahn]

So. So 80s jersey.

[Peter]

But it is true. The kids are not. The kids are not having sex is down among teens. Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Is it really true?

[Peter]

Post Covid teen pregnancy is down a bit.

[Don Hahn]

Well, that's a good pos.

[Peter]

But. But. No, no, of course. But they're seeing in the numbers that kids are less interested in the. The physical. Everyone now is texting so much. There's so much conversing through screens that.

[Don Hahn]

That you're.

[Peter]

It's actually having an impact on how much people are actually physically being together. And I wonder if that relates to the car stuff too, which is not the same desperation that we had to do all of the above.

[Don Hahn]

It's a whole other generation.

[Rosenberg]

But I looked forward because we were outside.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, man.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Because my dad was like, yeah, you can have a car. Go. Go buy it.

[Don Hahn]

Get a job. What was this? What was like the strip in Jersey? Like, Deer Park Avenue with Long Island. Like, that's where you'd go on a Saturday. And like, all the, like, everybody who had tricked out cars and, like, you know, the real muscle cars and stuff, you'd see everybody just kind of peacocking up and down Deer Park Avenue. It was like, the coolest place to be for me.

[Rosenberg]

It was the mall. Go to the Willowbrook Mall. There was just. There was.

[Don Hahn]

I was just there this weekend.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that did well, because of the blue laws, Bergen county, they were closed on Sunday. So if you wanted to go to the mall on a Sunday. You'd have to go to Willowbrook and Wayne. And there was a video, plays fun and games. Hang out there.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, that's.

[Rosenberg]

And then I talked about the hangout with the Dairy Queen.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, sure. But I'm talking about, like, the Strip. Like, as if it's just the road that everybody knew. Like, this is if you had a really nice car, right. Souped up, you brought it here, and you drove slow.

[Rosenberg]

We didn't have that in Hawthorne. We had people with the cars. But the big moment, like, cruising up and down the strip in Seaside Heights, we went down the shore.

[Don Hahn]

I guess that's what it is.

[Rosenberg]

You know, go to the mall like that. It's like. But none of us had. I remember one of my buddies in high school had a 68 Camaro.

[Don Hahn]

Nice.

[Rosenberg]

That was. That was nice.

[Don Hahn]

Nice. Yeah.

[Peter]

But by the way, that's. That's when you can really pinpoint our age difference. Like, if someone had a 68 Camaro when I was in high school, as a senior in 1997.

[Don Hahn]

No, no, no.

[Peter]

You'd be like. It would be like. It would be.

[Don Hahn]

No, it's not an old car. That's different. It's like having a Box Nova. That's not like, oh, that's your dad's old car.

[Peter]

That's not what I mean.

[Don Hahn]

It's having a classic car. That must have been kept well. And having a car like that is a.

[Peter]

But, Don, you graduated at what year?

[Rosenberg]

86.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Yeah. But having a 68 and 86 is different than having a 68. 97. That would have been, like, such a relic. I'm not saying wouldn't be cool. It's just no one could have it. It's an impossible thing.

[Don Hahn]

Back then, you could. You worked on a car like that, though. You could. You can't do that today.

[Peter]

Well, yeah, we did have a. We did have shop at my high school. That is true. That was a thing people would have been.

[Don Hahn]

Shop was a drive.

[Rosenberg]

What he's trying to tell us is him have one of his buddies in high school. Having a 68 Camaro would be like us in high school, somebody rolling up with a Model T. We had to crank the engine before it started, like.

[Don Hahn]

Right out of, like, a Three Stooges.

[Peter]

Or a Flintstone car. Your feet are actually on the ground. I don't even know everybody pushed.

[Don Hahn]

Pop the clutch.

[Rosenberg]

Pop it.

[Don Hahn]

800-91937. We probably should get back to sports.

[Peter]

We don't care, but let's Talk to the people.

[Don Hahn]

It would be good.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, it's sports, I'm sure. People. People like cars is not that much of a.

[Don Hahn]

Well, I guess you're.

[Peter]

By the way, we are entering a pretty. Just everyone watch out. Next few days, you're gonna get some wacky radio. It's a quiet time here.

[Don Hahn]

Griffin in Connecticut, though, wants to ask about the list. Hey, Griffin. Hey, guys. This show is off the rails every single day.

[Rosenberg]

Sorry, same thing.

[Don Hahn]

No, but that's. That's what makes great radio. That's what makes great radio. Because you get everybody liking the show. We don't care what we talk about, it just makes great radio.

[Peter]

Oh, thanks, Chris.

[Rosenberg]

You know what, Peter? I'm wondering if you thought about Gil.

[Don Hahn]

From Beths and Hearst, because I love that drop. It was so funny the way Don reacted, and it was you the whole time. Dom was, like, gonna lose his mind, I thought.

[Peter]

Can we hear it? We have. You have a Gil The. By the way, Griffin, thank you for your call.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you.

[Peter]

Yes, Gil was considered because that involved Don screaming.

[Don Hahn]

Oh, here it is.

[Peter]

I originally was trying to troll Michael, but Don is the one who really went off.

[Don Hahn]

So this is what. What Griffin was referencing. Yeah. Gill and Bensonhurst.

[Rosenberg]

Gil.

[Peter]

Michael, this is Gil and Bensonhurst. Listen to me, Michael, please. Please don't hang up. Please listen, okay? Last night, this whole thing would be different if Joe Girardi. Aaron Boone. If Aaron Boone had had the presence of mind to pinch hit for Gary Sanchez in the first inning.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Goodbye.

[Don Hahn]

Gil.

[Rosenberg]

He said no, guy.

[Peter]

I lied.

[Rosenberg]

Goodbye. Get off the phone. Get off the phone. Goodbye.

[Don Hahn]

Bye.

[Rosenberg]

Bye. Gil. God, I can't talk to people. Bye. Bye.

[Don Hahn]

Pinch it for Gary Sanchez in the first inning.

[Rosenberg]

Then why was he in the lineup? Gilbert, stop. Just don't dial the phone, please. Or have the nurse not dial the phone, okay? Gilbert, I. I just don't understand. Michael, we gotta stop. We know. I. Andrew, screen them out. I. We can't do it. We're on for another three hours. It can't be done. Screen them out. I'll take an Islander call. I'm not gonna do this today.

[Peter]

Keeps getting worse. It keeps getting better.

[Rosenberg]

I'll go ready. I'll get ready for the Ranger game. I'll sit in the corner like Blair Witch with my notebook and I'll write all the numbers down for the Capitals. I'm not gonna sit here for three hours and talk to moron baseball fans. You're not gonna pitch it for a catcher in the first inning and then leave yourself with just one Catcher for the rest of the game. Austin Romine's gonna hit a grand slam home run. Why? He's 0 for 2 in the history of the postseason. For God's sakes, stop it. Scream out.

[Peter]

But the most.

[Rosenberg]

Weren't you at, like, I was at.

[Don Hahn]

You were on the road for this?

[Rosenberg]

I was at the Penn Verizon center, whatever they call it now. And I can just imagine, you know, like, Joe Bin and Otti at the next booth getting ready for the game. Just hearing me, like, scream, smoking Al Coken was terrifying.

[Peter]

So I. So, so, so Al Coke. So real quick, the most underrated part, in my opinion, the thing I was most proud of in that performance, I think it was like a year or two into Boone, me doing the intentional slip up of Girardi. I mean, Aaron Boone, just to sound like an old man. I think that part's really slept on. But, yeah. So what happened was me, Andrew and RJ knew this conversation about pinch hitting for Sanchez had been getting bigger and bigger. And so at some point during a commercial, we were like, what if we did a pretend caller and he suggests that Sanchez get pinch hit for the first inning? And I think we thought we were going to troll Michael more because Michael was getting mad at Yankee callers. So I recorded it, right? I recorded it during a break, and then RJ Played it back. So when we. They put Gil up on the phone screener, Michael goes and hits it. There's really no one there. When he hits it, they hit play on the machine, and the two of them are just interacting with the recording. That's why when I have that part of the beer, I'm going, please, please just hear me out. Please, please.

[Don Hahn]

You knew they'd be yelling at you.

[Peter]

So I'm just, like, making it up. And they felt no prank has ever worked that well. Like, it just completely worked.

[Rosenberg]

So frustrating to hear you. How did we not know it was you?

[Don Hahn]

He sounded like. I was just telling you. You sounded like you were trying to, like, sound like Richard, right? Like the way Richard does when he. When he. When he talks and he. I got. He does that a lot. Sounded very Richard. And that's the part that I also was surprised that you guys didn't kind of catch on. This sounds like a prank call, but it actually. That. Yeah, that went very well. That was a very. Screen them out and then you just losing your mind.

[Rosenberg]

But I just got better. I just took it right out of Michael's hands. Michael was prepared to do it, but I jumped it.

[Peter]

Yeah, you had to get it yourself.

[Don Hahn]

Thank you. Made it even better. More your calls coming up. We have lots more to get into. Of course Stephen A has a problem with the Knicks. I think I can guess what it is. Aaron Boone talking about one little issue happening with the Yankees and there's a question about them which continues to be who's playing third? Bregman. Not going to be him. He's in Boston now. Stay with us. Don Hanna, Rosenberg and Don, you have some Sandwell for me friends?

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[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, that's speed, Dave. How happy Don is, Peter, look how happy he is.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah, he finds his happy.

[Don Hahn]

If he had a tail, it would be wagging right now.

[Peter]

You know, once he starts feeling those tunes. Do the kids like the metal at all?

[Don Hahn]

Yeah, that's true. Do you play it now?

[Rosenberg]

I do. They.

[Don Hahn]

They.

[Rosenberg]

They like some of it they're into. My daughter loves Imagine Dragon.

[Don Hahn]

Okay, that's good.

[Peter]

Imagine Dragons.

[Don Hahn]

It's plural. There's more.

[Rosenberg]

There's multiple dragons for them. I don't. It's okay. But the one that did. The one song that my daughter's in love with is the Panic at the Disco song, the House.

[Don Hahn]

That one.

[Rosenberg]

What's it called? It's House of. But it's a pretty.

[Don Hahn]

I know the one you're talking.

[Rosenberg]

It's a pretty good song.

[Don Hahn]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

They laugh it. You know what they like when I play that music because they laugh at me. The way I react, you just start to fire my head and get all fired up.

[Peter]

And there's a good chance, in fact, I would, if forced to predict, I would say they'll probably never understand it. It will probably always just be a thing of like, oh, my God, that's the crazy music dad likes.

[Don Hahn]

You know what's funny, though, is it's.

[Peter]

A pretty specific music.

[Don Hahn]

You know how nostalgic you are about your parents music. You grew up in the very much. So when you hear it, it makes you think of them and for me it's like the Beatles. Right, right. That always like I think of a moment in time because it's the Beatles. It's. It's them, it's Beach Boys. Like that was always their music. And I can't imagine your kids hearing like some death metal song and going, ah, I'm getting a little emotional.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, because I try to play them the songs, by the way.

[Peter]

By the way. I think it's so true. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that's ever going to happen.

[Don Hahn]

No.

[Rosenberg]

But I. But there's songs that I play. You know, my favorite all time song is a couple of them. Blood Feast, American pie by Don McLean. I think that's great.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

We saw Sweet Psalm live.

[Don Hahn]

Sweet Song, which was great.

[Rosenberg]

And Bridge Over Troubled Water, which I want played at my funeral.

[Don Hahn]

Sounds of Silence.

[Peter]

You're making. Well, because you know what?

[Rosenberg]

It would be silent. I'm on my way to a eternity of silence.

[Peter]

You don't know that.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe my daughter loves Imagine Dragon.

[Don Hahn]

That's good.

[Rosenberg]

Multiple dragons for them. If I don't know that I'm good.

[Don Hahn]

We having the dumbest conversations. This is.

[Rosenberg]

I'm sure what people.

[Peter]

I've been with my daughter, I've been playing. I find myself at the mixed little playlist I've made that I play when I'm like burping her and hanging out at night.

[Don Hahn]

Nice.

[Peter]

Is most. A lot of it comes from my parents. It is that.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Or artists of my parents. Even if it's songs that I personally like chose myself A lot of Paul Simon. Getting a lot of play in there.

[Don Hahn]

Hell yeah. Yeah. I made a playlist with Callie and she likes to dance and she'll grab. When she was little, she would grab my hand and take me like into the open space on the floor and she'd want to just keep spinning her around.

[Peter]

Have you.

[Don Hahn]

I kept this playlist and now when I listen, I can't listen. I just weep. It's emotional.

[Peter]

Can you. By the way, Natalie's already. Natalie laughs at me. She walks in on me crying with the baby all the time.

[Don Hahn]

It's okay.

[Peter]

I'm just sitting there crying, holding the baby. Cause it's different when you're 26 and you have a baby.

[Don Hahn]

I'm sure they're freaking out.

[Peter]

Yeah. When you're 45 and you have your first child, you've already thought about it for so many years that when I hold her and I'm thinking about like how fast Time is gonna go with her. I just cry right now.

[Don Hahn]

Bruno Marsal.

[Peter]

Which one?

[Don Hahn]

When I see your face.

[Peter]

I don't even know if I know this Bruno Mars song.

[Don Hahn]

How do you not know that? Bruno Mars.

[Peter]

Do I know it? Is it a big one? I'm just not remembering what it is.

[Don Hahn]

You'll know it if it's just the way you are.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Don Hahn]

Have you those lyrics? That's it.

[Peter]

Have you thought about this Is. I don't want to scare you, but have you thought about the father daughter song for you and your daughter at her wedding?

[Don Hahn]

And can you even go with Emma? I'm gonna leave it up to her, but yeah. I mean, there's each one, like, each one, I think, but I won't get through it. No. 0.

[Peter]

But has it crossed your mind, like, picturing the moment?

[Don Hahn]

No.

[Peter]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Well, not yet.

[Peter]

One more question. Have any of your daughters yet had, like, quote, serious boyfriends?

[Don Hahn]

Emma did a little.

[Peter]

But the fact that you say a little.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. She had one guy. He was, you know, he's a nice kid, but nothing serious.

[Peter]

But, like, not one that became, like, part of the family.

[Don Hahn]

She's just her and her friends, like, it's not really a thing. Like you said, that generation, they don't really do that. They don't date a lot.

[Peter]

And. And Emma, the older one, she hasn't had a guy who's, like, for two years is coming to the house. He's at every holiday. No, nothing like that.

[Don Hahn]

Nothing. Nothing to that level. Got it. She's trying. I'm sure she's efforting.

[Peter]

How do you feel about, like, are you ready for that? Like, are you comfortable with the idea of, like.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Zach's got a. Zach's got a wonderful girlfriend. I love her.

[Peter]

A little different, though, isn't it?

[Don Hahn]

It is, but it's still something.

[Peter]

But it is something.

[Don Hahn]

It warms you up, the idea, like, so. But for Emma, I would love that. For Emma, I would, but I want her to find that. But I love the fact that she's incredibly picked. Good.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don Hahn]

She should be like. Absolutely. It's the way it should be.

[Peter]

Damn right.

[Don Hahn]

Yeah. Rob is in West Iceland. What's up, Rob?

[Peter]

Hey, Rob.

[Don Hahn]

Cool.

[Peter]

Good song.

[Don Hahn]

That would have been good.

[Peter]

Bring it back up again. Oh, yeah. He finds his house.

[Don Hahn]

If he had a tail, it would be wagon right now.

[Peter]

What was. What was he gonna say?

[Don Hahn]

He would want to talk muscle cars with Don. Well, but Brian's been waiting forever, so let's get to Brian in New Jersey. Hey, Brian.

[Peter]

Sure is That a heartbeat, Brian.

[Rosenberg]

Hope it doesn't stop.

[Don Hahn]

Sorry, guys. I'm here. There it is.

[Rosenberg]

What's up, Brian?

[Don Hahn]

How you doing? Hey. Hello, family. How you doing? Good. Don, Happy birthday.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you, buddy.

[Don Hahn]

Big fan. Long time for years. So just want to shout out some. Can we talk about the Brooklyn Nets? Playing defense.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

Playing defense.

[Peter]

What?

[Rosenberg]

I won five out of six now.

[Don Hahn]

Yes, I will. Brian, I'm going to tell you something that I know you've probably heard from other people, but not a lot of people are talking about the Nets. I have, I have friends on that staff, a coaching staff. So I do keep an eye on them. Jordy Fernandez is a phenomenal. They hired a terrific coach. They got it right with him. He is first. He's on point. When I, when I've watched him coach games, he's on point. He makes great decisions when they challenge. It's smart. Everything that he does, you, you can see how he challenges his players. Aggressive he is. When it comes to, like when they play in games, they're trying to win games and all that stuff. For a franchise that ain't trying to win, like, they're not trying to win. They don't want to win. And he's going, well, we're going to win anyway. I mean, you know, they have 20 wins. What was their over under for the season? It couldn't have been more than like it was 19, 18, 19. Oh my God. So he's already hit the over. And again, all they keep doing is taking players away. They're not adding players. So I think if you want to feel good about the Nets, what you feel good about is that you've got a coach and they've got a lot of assets. They're going to try to get some play. They got to do it. They got to, they're going to have a high draft pick. At least they're going to hope they do. So there's, you know, there's reason for hope. But I'm, I am very impressed with Jordy Fernandez and that coaching staff. That is a top notch coaching staff because these guys are playing for their roster spots beneath you. You know, listen, Brian, no offense. There's probably guys that you hope don't make the team next year. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don Hahn]

You know what I mean? Like, like you're, you're trying to upgrade a winning culture. You don't lay down and teach winning culture. It's a great point. And that's what they do. They, they compete, that team. Thank you, bro. I know, guys, you know, we don't spend a lot of time in the Nets. They're not a very good team right.

[Peter]

Now or a popular team.

[Don Hahn]

They they, they do have a coach, though. There's no concerns about what they had. Jordy Fernandez and his coaching staff. That is a legit group. They when they get players, will be a hard they're already a hard team to play against, but they're going to be a good team. They just got to get players now. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know the sausage is made, man. I just want to know it's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter Weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.

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