Hour 3: Sam Morril joins the show

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast Summary

Episode: Hour 3: Sam Morril Joins the Show
Release Date: April 22, 2025

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with a vibrant introduction featuring host Alan Hahn alongside Don LaGreca and Peter Rosenberg. The trio welcomes comedian Sam Morril, who brings a lively energy to the discussion, including a lighthearted commentary on enjoying whiskey during the show.

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Bodega Cat Whiskey with Kaley Cuoco

Guest: Kaley Cuoco
Kaley Cuoco delves into her venture with Bodega Cat whiskey, sharing the brand's origins and the challenges faced during its inception. She humorously recounts an incident where a Twitter troll accused her of stealing the name "Bodega Cat," to which she responded by generously offering the name to him. Kaley emphasizes the authenticity and quality of the whiskey, linking it to her passion for supporting local businesses.

Notable Quote:
Kaley Cuoco: "[...] we got a drinking podcast. And I was like, hey, that'd be cool if we had a whiskey." [01:36]

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Kaley's Comedy Career and Carnegie Hall Performance

Kaley shares insights into her stand-up comedy journey, highlighting her upcoming show at Carnegie Hall. She reflects on the challenges of touring, including running out of energy after multiple nights on the road. Kaley discusses her comedic style, aiming to receive immediate feedback from audiences, which she prefers over the delayed responses akin to writing a book.

Notable Quote:
Kaley Cuoco: "I like that because it gives you, like, instant I suck, which I'm fine with." [04:45]

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Knicks Playoff Analysis

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the New York Knicks' performance in the playoffs. Kaley, a diehard Knicks fan, expresses her frustrations and hopes regarding the team's strategies and player performances. She critiques management decisions, such as the handling of key players like Brunson and Porzingis, and reflects on the team's historical context compared to the gritty 90s Knicks.

Notable Quotes:
Kaley Cuoco: "New York sports fans are psychotic. [...] I loved Porzingis, but you gotta be patient with these teams." [07:11]
Alan Hahn: "It's hard to argue it now." [21:25]
Kaley Cuoco: "I ride and die with this team, so I'll be watching, I'll be believing." [37:31]

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Caller Insights and Fan Perspectives

Listeners call in to share their viewpoints, adding depth to the discussion. One caller, Evan from Connecticut, attempts to inject positivity by comparing current series situations to past Knicks scenarios. Another caller, Adam from Staten Island, vents his frustrations about the team's bench strength and consistency, highlighting concerns about player reliability in crucial moments.

Notable Quotes:
Adam: "The bench stinks. [...] I don't have confidence in almost everybody when it comes to making a big shot at the end of the game." [35:15]
Evan: "There's so much room for improvement. We have players on this team that can rise to the occasion." [34:16]

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Comparisons to Historical Knicks Teams

The hosts and Kaley draw parallels between the current Knicks lineup and legendary teams from the 90s. They reminisce about the tough, gritty playstyle and the emotional connection fans felt with players like John Starks and Marcus Camby. The conversation touches on missed opportunities and critical decisions that have shaped the team's present state.

Notable Quotes:
Kaley Cuoco: "The 90s Knicks played with blood, sweat, and tears. [...] They played like they cared about us, and we cared about them." [19:16]
Don LaGreca: "Everyone hopes this one day will happen, but do you think if they ever win that your fandom will change?" [19:35]

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Optimism for Game Three and Future Prospects

Despite the setbacks, there is a glimmer of hope for the Knicks. The hosts discuss potential adjustments and strategies that could turn the series around. Kaley remains optimistic, believing in the team's talent and the possibility of overcoming current challenges.

Notable Quotes:
Kaley Cuoco: "The fact that it was that close gives me hope. [...] I think they're going to respond." [37:21]
Peter Rosenberg: "They're crushed at the free throw line last night." [20:38]

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up on an encouraging note, with Kaley expressing unwavering support for the Knicks and anticipation for game three. The hosts acknowledge the emotional rollercoaster of being dedicated fans and the importance of maintaining hope and positivity through the highs and lows of the season.

Notable Quote:
Kaley Cuoco: "We are questioning the heart of this team right now. [...] I ride and die with this team, so I'll be watching, I'll be believing." [37:31]

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Key Takeaways

• Kaley Cuoco's Ventures: Exploration of Bodega Cat whiskey and her stand-up comedy career, including a performance at Carnegie Hall.
• Knicks Performance Critique: Detailed analysis of the Knicks' playoff performance, management decisions, and player dynamics.
• Fan Engagement: Insightful perspectives from listeners, highlighting both frustrations and hopes for the team's future.
• Historical Comparisons: Drawing lessons from the 90s Knicks to inform current strategies and fan expectations.
• Hope and Optimism: Emphasis on believing in the team's potential to overcome current challenges and succeed in the playoffs.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Kaley Cuoco: "I like that because it gives you, like, instant I suck, which I'm fine with." [04:45]
• Alan Hahn: "It's hard to argue it now." [21:25]
• Kaley Cuoco: "We are questioning the heart of this team right now. [...] I ride and die with this team, so I'll be watching, I'll be believing." [37:31]

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This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and in-depth sports analysis, making it a must-listen for fans of the Knicks and followers of the hosts' dynamic conversations.

Transcript

[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don LaGreca]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers. All right, it's the big 5:00 hour with Don Lagreca and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. We got calls a lot of people want to talk to Knicks. I just don't feel like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, that's an interesting take. I like where you're at, but Sam.

[Alan Hahn]

Morrell came in here to join us and he brought some whiskey. And so I feel like just popping it right now and just getting after it. I mean, it's 5:00 somewhere. In fact, it's 5:00 right now.

[Don LaGreca]

So do it, man. First one passes out, loses.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, I'm not kidding.

[Don LaGreca]

We just eliminate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm saving this for the weekend. No, I'm coming off. What do you mean you coming off of a Vegas?

[Alan Hahn]

Where's the John leave? Is our boss gone for the day?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're going to crack yours open, huh? Give it a swig.

[Alan Hahn]

Should I not?

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you go swig right from the bottle, I'll be very impressed.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, but then you ruin it for everyone else. If you want to share, that's share.

[Don LaGreca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Did you not bring bottles for everybody?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I did.

[Don LaGreca]

Very nice.

[Alan Hahn]

Sam brought Bodega Cat whiskey, which. You've heard the commercials here on the station, and every time I would hear it. I know how big of a Knicks fan you are. I'm like, is this named after call Anthony Towns? Because they call him Bodega Cat. But then I realized that's a thing in New York.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Some guy. Yeah, I. We've had the whiskey for years. It's impossible. Like so much red tape when you start an alcohol brand. Like, we don't know we're open micrs in the whiskey game. We don't know anything. But then when Cat got trade here, I tweeted like, oh, Bodega Cat. And Some guy, like, was trolling me. He's like, I came up with that. He had, like, seven followers on Twitter. I was like, I didn't see it, dude. I'm sorry. But he was, like, harassing me. Followers. He was like, admit you stole Bodega Cat. I'm like, you can have it, dude. I'm sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wait, so you guys have been running this with this for a while?

[Kaley Cuoco]

It's been years, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's only. When did it start getting manufactured?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Well, we had it for years. We had this guy who just, like, over prom. We don't know Mark Norman and I don't know anything about business. We're like, you know, we got good at our career by talking to strangers in bars on stage. So we're not, like, savvy businessmen. So we just have a drinking podcast. And I was like, hey, that'd be cool if we had a whiskey. And he's like, no. No one would do that for us. And, like, our email box was, like, filled with distillery people. And then we just went with a random. We didn't do any research. We went with a random guy for the first time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He seemed nice.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah. But he didn't know how to do anything, so we had to move on. We final. Who's, like, getting us in places now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's. How is it, Alan Delish.

[Kaley Cuoco]

It's good whiskey. I mean, I love it.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it's got the perfect burn.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really.

[Alan Hahn]

Right on the money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I love this.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And also, tickets for your show at Carnegie hall, on sale tomorrow.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, that's a big one. I'm fired up, man.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's pretty cool, man.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah. I've never done it. I've done, like. I've done the Beacon. I've done MSG theater. Never done Carnegie Hall. So that's like.

[Don LaGreca]

Is this the biggest venue for you?

[Kaley Cuoco]

MSG Theater's bigger, but I'm doing a bunch of stuff.

[Don LaGreca]

Talking about from Prestige, right?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I don't know, dude. Delirious Eddie Murphy and MSG Theater, dude. That's pretty iconic to me.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I don't know. That's got the Ceiling name.

[Don LaGreca]

That's the problem. I get, like, with the old Paramount now. It's what the Hulu Theater then was the. It was.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, now it's the MSG Theater.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

It was changing, like, the name of the Carnegie Hall. Listen, you're. You know better than I do. I just say, like, as just a fan.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, you're right. This is the biggest. Buy tickets, please.

[Don LaGreca]

This is.

[Kaley Cuoco]

This is it.

[Don LaGreca]

That's still, you're talking about some of the best venues in the country, man.

[Kaley Cuoco]

It's. Dude, it's awesome. Yeah, no, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm excited, man. It's like. It's hard. I've been on. I've been on a tour bus for, like. I just got back, like, nine straight nights. So at certain point, you're just like. You're like, oh, I don't have it anymore. You just. You run out of gas. You know, it's.

[Alan Hahn]

You tell me. It's just. You need load management. Just too many minutes for you.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I want to be more of a kawaii type of comedian, I think, dude. No, I'm struggling. Like, by night nine, I was in Minneapolis, and I was like, that was probably my worst show. They were not a good crowd. In my defense, they kind of sucked. I was, like, pandering, too. I was like, Randall and Dante. And they're, like, applauding. I'm like, all right, let me get on their side. And then just. Mediocre set, for sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How do you.

[Alan Hahn]

It's the people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How do you like night in, night out? One of the things I've always found interesting about comedians that's different than people like us who like to entertain on the radio is your desire to go up and risk it time after time after time.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But what's the risk, really? I mean, like, you see the Face it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You see the faces of displeasure.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I kind of like that, though, because it gives you, like, instant, like, gratification or instant I suck, Which I'm fine with. I like that because, like, you write a book, you don't know if it sucks till it's published. Like, I tell a joke, I know if it's good immediately.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Kaley Cuoco]

You know, and, like, I kind of like that, you know?

[Peter Rosenberg]

But don't you have certain jokes that you'll try on a given night? And they. Like, in Minneapolis, they fail, but in Brooklyn, they.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I have a joke that keeps bombing. But Chris Rock, Louis CK And David Tell have all quoted that joke to me, and that's the only reason I keep telling it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And yet the crowd does not seem to like it.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, I have a joke. I'll tell the joke. Tell it, I say. My girlfriend used to get mad at me because I'd be on the road and I'd come home and I'd be a mess. I'd come lazy. I don't want to clean them. So she'd pick up after me, and she'd be like, God, you're a slob. Why don't you just hire a housekeeper? And I'd be like, the same reason I don't get a prostitute. You're crushing. Doesn't work.

[Alan Hahn]

How does that know?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I don't know, but, like. But I saw Chris Rock at the Knicks game, and he was like, oh, that housekeeper joke. I was like, all right, I'll keep it. You know, if Chris Rock says, you got to keep it.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

You left. I left, Don.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I. I thought it was funny.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Don smiled. He's more of a smile.

[Don LaGreca]

Genuine.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, right.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, that wasn't genuine. I'm sorry. I'm having a little bit of whiskey. I might have laughed out loud.

[Don LaGreca]

No, I just. It's a genuine response. I'm not trying to follow the crowd. I got this whole bit. I do, because whenever.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he'll.

[Don LaGreca]

Athlete or a coach tells, like, something remotely funny, all the reporters are.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Like, overly laugh because they're like, oh, he'll like me. It's a, like, me laugh. So I kind of go over the top of that. I try not to be that guy because I'm always afraid that my laugh is not gonna be genuine. So I try to be. That was my genuine reaction, which I thought was positive.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I felt good about it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Shut up. Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

You find like, all right, that's a great date night. Going to see a comedian. So is that, like, a guy, maybe guilt. Doesn't want to laugh in front of his girlfriend or wife because they'll be insulted. You think might be that.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I say that sometimes. I say, that's. That's one for the dudes. Yeah, I think they do a little bit. I think they're like. If it's a first date, they're like, I don't want to laugh too hard at that joke. You know, I've definitely had a few of those before.

[Don LaGreca]

Of course, Rock finds it fun.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all. That's the endorsement you're looking for. Does that experience, though, being on the stage telling the immediate response, does that change how you are as a sports fan? You're a diehard Knicks fan. Do you look at the players differently because you kind of understand the mistakes, the boos, and all those things that can come with being an entertainer.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah. But also, like, you got to be patient. Like, New York sports fans are. We're psychotic. I mean, we will turn on you in a second. I. I think of Porzingis all the time when they drafted him, just the booze, and it's like, that guy's a 7:3 guy who can shoot threes like he was. I love Porzingis, but. Yeah, man, you gotta be patient with these teams. But it is tough. Like, right now, there's definitely. You feel it because you know that Brunson's window isn't forever. You know, he's shorter than me. He's a tiny dude, and he takes a beating. You just think of, like, Iverson and guys like that who just take a beating, go into the rack. So, yeah, we want to see him thrive. We want to see, you know, Brunson, Hart, og Like, I love this nucleus. I'm just. I'm nervous. Tell me about it.

[Alan Hahn]

Last night. So you were on the road for nine days?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Was that the first time you back in the building? Yeah, for game two. So you didn't see game one?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I saw it. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You didn't. You were at game one.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I got home, like, that Saturday afternoon. So I got home and went just straight to my apartment and just collapsed on the couch with a couple friends. And we're playing.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. So you watched on tv.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I watched.

[Alan Hahn]

So the first time you were back in the building is game two?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So what did you see? What? What. What are you. Give me the fan analyst view of the Knicks loss last night in game two.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I knew missing Hardenstein would. Would hurt. I just knew, like, that toughness is irreplaceable. That guy was a brick wall. And I loved how he played. And Mitch is a beast, but we didn't even play him in the second half last night, which I didn't get. He was. Detroit is a tougher team than us, objectively. They just are tougher that, you know, they didn't even play Stewart last night. Those dudes are like. They remind me of, like, 90s Knicks type players. Like, they're. Thompson is so annoying. That dude bugs me like flop.

[Alan Hahn]

Thompson is. No, Beasley is the guy who's got the punchable face.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah. He could shoot the lights out every time he shoots. Like, Hardaway doesn't scare me for some reason. Maybe because I watched him play for us.

[Alan Hahn]

You know his weakness, right?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oh, my God. I remember when we signed him to 4, year 72. I just looked at my phone. I was like, oh, no. And a girl was there at the time. She goes, who died? Like, she let someone die. But I was like, no, we just destroyed our future. Yeah, because. What's his name? The old geez. What's his name?

[Alan Hahn]

Phil Jackson.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, it wasn't him. It was the other one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was Post Phil.

[Alan Hahn]

The other. The other bad G.M. let's see. Grunwald.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, after Phil.

[Alan Hahn]

Scott. Perry.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, I like Perry. It was Perry. God, I can't believe it was a guy who never worked again after the Knicks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I remember that deal specifically being like, oh, Tim Hardaway Jr. Is a nice player. Four year, 72 million, huh? That's.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I knew it was over. I knew it was over then. So, yeah, I mean, I was so crushed when we lost Hardenstein because I just knew, like, you guys like that help you win championships. Toughness in the playoffs is everything. And I knew we weren't going to get. I DMed with him a little bit when he was on the Knicks, and I messaged him, dude, the season. I was like, dude, come by the Cellar tonight. It's going to be a really good show. And he goes, oh, man, I would have, but I'm in Houston. I was like, would have. Like, you just say I'd come back next time. But he said, would have. And I was like, it's over. He's gone.

[Alan Hahn]

He gone.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I felt like it was. That was more painful than a breakup. Cause I knew this would impact me more day to day, you know, like, his toughness. Losing Dante and Randall killed me, too. Cause people love to trash Randall, but, like, he was another dude who would give you everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Night in, night out.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He never like, I love Cat, but it's the exact opposite of Randall. You know, Cat's an artist as a shooter. This guy is like Dirk from three. But, you know, Randle would do a lot of questionable stuff, but he gave you everything.

[Peter Rosenberg]

His effort level was never in question.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Tobias Harris is guarding Cat. That shows you how much respect the Pistons have for him. Cat should be cooking him every. Every time.

[Alan Hahn]

So whose fault is that, though? Is that him for not demanding the ball?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Should demand the ball?

[Alan Hahn]

Or is it someone else that's going, can we get. Can we get our guy the ball? Like, nobody can guard him. Can we get.

[Kaley Cuoco]

So you felt like, like Brunson was being, like, kind of old school.

[Alan Hahn]

I think they were being stubborn. I think it was about, let's foul out Thompson. I'm going to prove to these officials they're going to make them call foul. I think Thibodeau got caught up in that, and I think Jalen got caught up in put the cape on and be the savior again.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And it wasn't recognizing in the mo. Like, how did no one recognize zero shots? Our seven footer is being guarded by a guy. Six, eight, who isn't known for defense. Maybe we should give him a Ball?

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, he's known for fleecing front offices and getting paid.

[Alan Hahn]

Hey, he's from Long Island.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He's a good player.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You brought this up, though, about the fan base here.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And one thing that always drives me crazy as an adopted New Yorker, not from here, but been here almost 20 years, is there's this mentality of, like, but if you win in New York, it's the best thing ever.

[Kaley Cuoco]

For basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They say it for every sport.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, it's for basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But meanwhile. But is it worth it? Is the trip to getting there worth it? If you're one of these guys, like, if you were an athlete.

[Alan Hahn]

Here's the problem.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Would you rather come here? Do you not think one Knicks championship is worth, like, three Laker championships based on how much they've won?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Lakers, I don't think, are the fairest example, because I do think being great in LA is pretty great. Like, I do think if you're. If you're a signature part of a Laker team.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, I answer Maybe.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Maybe like 10 years ago. You know, Knicks championship is a different level. We haven't won in 53 years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it would be amazing.

[Don LaGreca]

But I think the same for. For teams that haven't won. Like, if. If Rogers had come here and won a Super bowl with the Jets, I think he would be up there.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Okay. But the jets are also a tortured fan. You can't compare Yankees champ to a Knicks championship.

[Don LaGreca]

When the Mets finally win after going since 86. And obviously you saw with Messier, with the Rangers after that long drought, you get a long drought, you've got a chance to do it. Are you a Fire Tibs guy? If they don't get out of the.

[Kaley Cuoco]

First round, it's tough, man. I mean, I think he can't lose to the Pistons. I agree. This team can't lose to the Pistons. If they beat us. They're playing with house money right now. This is a great situation for the Pistons. You can't. Yeah, I think if you. If you lose this series. And I love Tibbs, I'm not calling for his head, but, like, you can't. You can't get upset like that. Like, think of the great upsets in playoff history. Avery Johnson, Mavs, Warriors. I'm not saying it's the same discrepancy, but to me, it's close. That we are a far talented, more talented team than the Pistons. They're just out toughen us.

[Alan Hahn]

I think you're 100% and off and you're. And you're just playing dumb. Offense, like defensive, I think they're fine. They held a hundred points like it. To me it's the offense that. And you remember, remember the middle of season when the offense was one of the best in the league. Like it was beautiful basketball. Even Clyde on the broadcast was like, this reminds me of my teams from the 70s.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And you know some idiot on this station said this is the best five unit, five man unit that they've had since the 70s.

[Kaley Cuoco]

That was you.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know who that was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was you.

[Don LaGreca]

That was Alan.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, that was. Who the hell is that guy?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Well, the difference between this team and the 90s Knicks, with the 90s Knicks would beat you up and, and I as a.

[Alan Hahn]

But that offense was terrible. They were bad offense. Of course those were not fun games to watch.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, but that team went to the finals, dude.

[Alan Hahn]

Twice.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Twice. Yeah, well, different teams though, right?

[Alan Hahn]

99 was much different looking teams.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But you know the, the 90s Knicks, like there was something about that team last year about having Mitchell and Hardenstein together. Like, man, I liked having. And then, then when you have Josh Hart, that's like house money. You're playing with Josh Hart, we're like these like nine rebounds. He can get you a game or more. Yeah, that's even this.

[Alan Hahn]

You're talking you up, but you're talking about is Dante getting in Halliburton's face because Halliburton's trash talk, it's. It's Hartenstein. The minute somebody knocks Brunson down, not helping Brunson up, but like bumping the guy who knocked him down before he helped.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I love that.

[Alan Hahn]

The little things that just sent that message of don't mess with us that you don't see now because this team instead, when that happens, one guy's yelling at the reference, another guy is talking to the coaching to the bench, someone else is going to pick the ball up. Like there's no, there's no connection.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

And I feel like that's the thing that's kind of missing. And I don't, I don't know where it goes. What I want to know from you, Sam, is your origin story. I always ask fans for their origin story. What, what made you a Knicks fan?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Honestly, the, the. My first, My brother was a Knicks fan. And then that 90s starting five at Derek Harper Starks, you know, I love Mace. I know he was off the bench, but Oak Ewing, I mean Hubert shooting threes like that got me into basketball. I loved the way they played. I thought they were just like Gritty and tough and I mean, yeah. That to me was like. The NBA in the 90s was awesome. It was just so many. I still remember the NBA and NBC. Like that theme song, that vibe you felt when the game came on. I'm mad that I'm mad the Sonics aren't a team anymore. Just as like a child. Did you see.

[Alan Hahn]

How did you guys hear this story? The Gary Payton won't let the Thunder.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I love it.

[Alan Hahn]

Retire his jersey.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I love this.

[Alan Hahn]

Because he said I didn't play here.

[Don LaGreca]

No, exactly.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He's disrespectful to the city of Seattle, which I love Seattle, that's like. I think it's a great city. There's a theater there called the Moore. It's like one of my favorite theaters in the country. Bill Burger shot his last special there, the one on Hulu. Seattle. The vibes in Seattle are so good. But the fact that they have, like, the Kraken now and they don't have a basket, get them a team.

[Alan Hahn]

I think when they get Vegas, they'll do Seattle.

[Don LaGreca]

They're 32.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Leave Vegas in Seattle.

[Alan Hahn]

That's what they'll do. And then, like, Memphis will go east and they'll find some other reason to put somebody.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Memphis, New Orleans will be east. How about Memphis?

[Alan Hahn]

The same as the Knicks. Whatever.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Vibes about 50, dude.

[Alan Hahn]

No, that's true.

[Kaley Cuoco]

That was crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

Also, the lower seed. They had to play their way in. But still. But going back to the 90s thing. Do you. Do you remember. I don't know how old you are.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, I'm 38.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, okay. Yeah. So you're fairly young. So I don't know if you have much memory, though, but that. The thing that I remember most from those from that era was the. The first game of the playoffs when they came out and you're like, yo, these dudes shave their heads.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

And they're wearing blacks now. Everyone wore white sneakers back then. Nobody wore different colors. They had black sneakers, black socks, and shaved their heads. And they came out like they were playing in. Like they were in the yard. And I'm not talking about, like, backyard. I mean, you know, this was in prison.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, they came out like they had a razor in there.

[Kaley Cuoco]

You know, it was their lip thug vibe to it.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, my God. Like, you were like, oh, my. We're killing everybody.

[Don LaGreca]

Tyson, I love just like Tyson.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I mean, Starks, like, look, we're an emotional fan base. I remember when Starks headbutt Reggie. Was it the right thing to do?

[Alan Hahn]

No, of Course not.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But I loved it. I was like, hell, this is irresponsible. It's going to cost us a game. But, hell, yeah. Like, I love John Stark so much. Like, you know, that era was so. And then I. The next era with, like, Spree and Houston.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, it's another pretty good group, man.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, that was Camby. They were just cool. And Childs and Ward, it was just like they were almost like the what Mitch and Hardenstein are for big men. They were like that for guards. But you have nose guards.

[Alan Hahn]

97, where they go crazy, where PJ Brown versus Charlie Ward has no. No need to do what he did.

[Kaley Cuoco]

If I see P.J. brown today, I will give him a glare. I still hate him for flipping Charlie Ward. How dare he? That was. That was.

[Alan Hahn]

So Joe Wallace jumps into the crowd, just starts putting, like, putting knuckles all over PJ Brown. But that cost you a chance to play the Bulls that you thought you could have beaten for a championship that year. Then 98, the injury happens. 99, they get far, but everybody's banged up by then. 2000, they're on their last legs. They get one more shot at, and then it's over.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I hate it.

[Alan Hahn]

So the problem with those teams is they just. They couldn't get out of their own way.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, dude. I mean, I still. I have that anger in me to the Heat, and it's a different group now. But, like, I was at Ewing's retirement night and the nosebleeds. I remember booing Alonzo Morni. I was like, I hate this guy. Screw him. You know, it never goes away. Like, maybe I've softened a little bit because the time has passed, but, like, those wounds never heal. And, like, I was talking to someone yesterday who was like, why do you care so much about the Knicks? I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it reminds me of my own failures. Maybe you think about, like, I don't know why I care so much because I love the Yankees, I love the Giants, I love the Rangers. But none hit me like, the Knicks. The Knicks. For some reason, like, I have so many emotional memories of coming so close. And it's not just about not winning. It's the way you don't win, where it's like, I thought they played with a lot of class in the 90s. I know you said, like, we talk about, like, whatever, thugs, but. But they played like Mason played like he represented the city.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oakley played like he gave everything. It was like blood, sweat, and tears. Like, they played like they cared about us. And we cared about them and that. And that was a connection we felt. So when we don't feel that in New York, we're just hurt. It just hurts us a little bit, you know, that's the way to put it.

[Don LaGreca]

Everybody hopes this one day will happen, but do you think if they ever win that your fandom will change?

[Kaley Cuoco]

No, I love it. I just love basketball, too. So, like, I mean, dude, I was at the Liberty finals games. I'm all, I love the. I love New York basketball. There's something about it to me that, like, I think is so cool. Even though, Damn. Sabrina shot 1 of 19. I was like, what am I watching?

[Alan Hahn]

You know, you were watching.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was Stark's, like, right there. It really was.

[Alan Hahn]

We've seen it.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Stark's like, but they were said it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Worked out, and it worked out.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, but. Yeah. So where.

[Alan Hahn]

What are you feeling now then with this series? It's one one. They get. You got game three Thursday. Yeah, I know last night was depress, and we don't like the way the team looks right now and all that stuff we're saying, but do you. Do you still have faith, though, that something can be made of this postseason? Or did last night shake your confidence?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I might.

[Don LaGreca]

I.

[Kaley Cuoco]

My confidence is not shaken, but I do look at some of these matchups. Like, man, I think Orlando, if they were healthy, would have been a tough matchup for us, too. You got, like, Jalen Suggs, if he were healthy. They're another team that beats you up physically. We've lost the physicality. So that worries me. Like, I like. I like what Bridges does. I love his durability. He and Towns don't get to the free throw line enough. And that's something that worries me against a team that's this physical.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They were crushed at the free throw line last night.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Crushed. And they're accusing Brunson of flopping the whole time. Meanwhile, we got crushed in free throws, you know, and part of the problem is Bridges loves to fade away. Towns loves to kind of fade back. I do miss that Randle bully ball a little bit. I know he didn't always make the right decision, but, like, Randle was weirdly emotional in the way New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was perfect.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He booed us. I was kind of like, I don't know. I kind of get it. I kind of relate to doing the wrong thing and then feeling, you know, so. His imperfection. His imperfection I found kind of charming. Randall, I thought he seemed like a good guy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was getting to a point for me. Where I thought he was being under appreciated for someone who was going to be a classic Nick like a lunch pig, he did.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He gave us life.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He started this thing that we're in right now.

[Alan Hahn]

It's hard to argue it now. The only thing I'll point out, I try to remind people this, and I know you know this.

[Kaley Cuoco]

You're so positive on tv and I need it. You're. You're like. You're halftime stuff. And when you come on, I'm like, I need to hear Han be positive. So no, truly, like you and Wally have a very positive.

[Alan Hahn]

We try to keep it real, but we try to do it with like a smile on our face, I guess. But the truth is that if Hartenstein the Knicks couldn't give him more, right? They gave him most. They were by rule allowed to give him. Other teams were allowed by rule to give him more. It was up to him to say, I love it here in New York. Enough to leave 20 million on the table. Now, for a guy who.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Three years more than that though, because the taxes and OKC guy, A guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Who'S three years prior was literally no. 1 in the league. Like almost one foot out the door. You can't leave 20 on the table. Like we understand it. So he did. So now you have a hole at center and Mitchell Robinson had surgery. So he. Your center was Julius Randall at 6 9. You were going into the season like that.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

So when the town's trade came available to you days before training camp, gun to your head, you say no.

[Kaley Cuoco]

It's a tough one to say no to.

[Alan Hahn]

And when they say we're not doing it unless you give us Steven Shenzhou. Cause that's what Tim Connelly gm, that's what he said. He knew, he knew it would hurt him because they were like McBride, like, no, give us Steven Chenzo. They knew that would hurt them.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, it hurt Mitch. I'm pissed. Mitch didn't play at all in that second half yesterday.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't get it.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I don't get it.

[Alan Hahn]

I know.

[Kaley Cuoco]

See, that's why I look at Tibbs lack of making adjustments. Like sometimes you're like, okay, campaign, save the day. In game one were the adjustments in.

[Alan Hahn]

Game and Brunson together were so good for seven minutes in the fourth quarter. Game one didn't play together at all in game two.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Not at all. So I don't. I kind of don't get it. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but like, I don't want to be beaten By a team that has Tim Hardaway Jr. Starting. Like, I just don't. I think, also I think Beasley's a. He scares me way more than Tim Hardaway Jr. His jump shot seems automatic.

[Alan Hahn]

Not in the second half.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He couldn't hit him yesterday.

[Alan Hahn]

He is Mr. May. He is not Mr. October. He is Mr. Maybe.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah. This team's just so big. And the fact that they have, by the way, shows you how much respect they have for Brunson, that they're putting Thompson on him because that guy is a monster and true. But I'm so sick of watching him go. Every call, you know, challenge, challenge. Every time they all do it, it's a body slam. You're body slamming a tiny dude. What are you doing? Yeah, I think Brunson, you know, he's going to come out. It's about like, okay, we know you can score, Brunson. We know you're the best finisher in the game. You're the. You are the clutch player of the year. You got to get the other guys going now, too. Yeah, you got to get Cat going. You got to get Mikhail going. You got to make sure that OG has a decent offensive night because we all know OG might not be 100% right now. He's going. He's going all out on Cade, and in game one, he had him in prison. You're not going to get that. Cade's a hell of a player. You're not going to get that.

[Don LaGreca]

You just see like, he was yelling at John Starks during the game.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

He gets so focused. You can see he's motivating himself every time. And I just think he just. He wants to take the whole team on his shoulders. But in that position, you got to facilitate. You got to get other people involved. We were asking the question, is it because he wants it all on him or does he not trust his teammates?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Well, it might be the latter, unfortunately. But you think you're right being a facilitator. What do we talk about as the greatest Nick performance ever? Walt Frazier, 36 and 19, right. That's 19 dimes in the biggest game. So, yeah, you better get your teammates going. And I worry that, like, sometimes you see him sometimes reluctant to pass it to Bridges on those three point. But, you know, Bridges is pretty efficient from the corner from three.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But man, he missed a lot of open looks yesterday and that. And. And you see Hart is reluctant to shoot and. But Hart, for some reason, to me, like, he levels up so much in the playoffs. Normally he hits those like shots when they play fast. Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

When it's, when it's slow is when. That's when he's. He's hesitant. He talks about that, how he's more of a rhythm kind of speed guy. You want to hang out for another segment? Yeah, we'll take calls a little bit like that. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Alan Hahn]

Race the sails. Race the sails.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching.

[Alan Hahn]

Over. Roger, Wait. Is that an enterprise sales solution?

[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Alan Hahn]

Full [e-mail] thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your PODC past. All right, so Jacob Perry, one of our producers, did the research. The Tim Hardaway contract was Steve Mills. Yeah. Want to turn his mic on?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oh, am I not on? There you go.

[Alan Hahn]

This is a problem, right? Mill. Steve Mills.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, he. He never got another gig. I don't think.

[Alan Hahn]

I think he needs to send to Boston. He did real well.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Send him to Boston to break up that perfect Nucleus.

[Alan Hahn]

But here's what you want. You want the Celtics to finally like whatever they've got going on to be on the downslide when you're finally figuring it out.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I like that they got Porzingis and Holiday for nothing. And we had to give five firsts for Mikhail Bridges. It's insane. Same with the Luka deal. It just makes Me furious at all times.

[Alan Hahn]

If you think about that trade. Yeah, like, assess this one, Donnie. The Bucks thought they blew up the NBA by acquiring Damian Lillard. They thought, oh, yeah, flip the whole league on its head. We got Dame. Nobody thought. Everybody's gonna pry Dame out of Portland. They got him to put him with Giannis, and in doing so, they traded Jrue Holiday away, who was part of their championship team. Portland decides, we don't really want to keep this guy. He's a veteran. Why would we want anybody? Good, because Portland just wants to be bad.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

And so he just gets flipped to the Celtics, Celtics and this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And are you kidding?

[Don LaGreca]

That's what happens.

[Alan Hahn]

A guy who literally rich get richer. If you took a moment and said, we need a player that would fit exactly what the Celtics need, that's Drew Holiday. It's insane.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's perfect. But also, don't forget, and I'm a Celtics fan, when the Smart trade happened and Porzingis came back from Washington, that.

[Alan Hahn]

Was a heartbreaker, wasn't it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was heartbreaking. And I wasn't like. At the time. I was like, oh, my God, yes, we've added poor Zingis.

[Kaley Cuoco]

A lot of people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's how people felt that people did feel that way. But I felt like we were emotional.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Because he was like your Josh Hart. He was like an emotional. I'll give. I like Marcus Smart a lot, the way he plays.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, I thought the trade was heartbreaking for us. We've gotten a championship and are solid. He's now. He goes from being a core part of a team to now he's just.

[Alan Hahn]

Bounced from team to team Memphis to Washington, and. And I've talked to him about, you know, where you'd really help New York.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But he's not better than Deuce at this point. I don't think Deuce's shot is so much more, I think.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you also want. You just want someone to play people hard. Every possession, he plays people hard.

[Alan Hahn]

Like, you think he's letting a guy roll dice on center court.

[Kaley Cuoco]

That's why I missed Hardenstein. I thought he would have pushed somebody down. I didn't care for us just letting him. I understand that we've messed the Hawks up every time since, and that's our way to be silent and internalize it. But I want to see a little drama.

[Don LaGreca]

But in that moment, you want do something?

[Alan Hahn]

Absolutely.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I want to hate the Celtics so much. But, like, I met Jaylen Brown, I did this, like, fashion show at the the Apollo, and I had to do stand up in, like, a fur coat. Like, oh, we all.

[Alan Hahn]

You did a fashion show at the Apollo.

[Kaley Cuoco]

At the Apollo. And not my crowd. Believe it or not, I think of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You as a fashion play.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Dude, I bombed so hard. I was like, oh, boy, I'm bombing. So I'm like. And Jaylen Brown walks in. In the. Into the back room after my set. I'm like, oh, they're. This is all I need is for a Celtic to rub it. Relish in my bomb. And he walks over to me and I'm like, oh, I hate this guy. I hate him so much. And he's like, dude, that was hilarious. I'm like, damn it. How. Damn it? I don't wanna, like, cool be a bad guy. And I talked to him for, like, 20 minutes. He was like, the coolest guy. And I was like, damn. And I told him. I was like, just so you know, I hate the Celtics. So, like, what we're having right now is not real. I'm a Knicks fan. And he was so cool. He was like, give me your least favorite Celtics ever. And he's like, like, Garnett. I was like, no, Pierce obviously over Garnett. Garnett's hilarious. And I love uncut gems. So, like, I can't hate Garnett at this. And also, Garnett's the dude that, if he's on your team, he's like that, like, prime Joaquin Noah guy, where you're like, this is my favorite player ever. Like, he's so. He's so good.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But Pierce drove people nuts.

[Alan Hahn]

I know Pierce with the bowing, et cetera. Yeah.

[Kaley Cuoco]

And he was so clutch. Like, I mean, people forget how good Pierce was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was a killer.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He was a killer in the playoffs. He was one of the most big shot. It's like that Chauncey Billups effect where, like, you just. I mean, that's how I feel about Brunson. I think Brunson is a way better playoff player than he is. Like, he knows when to rise to the occasion. That's why I love him.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't realize how much opposing fans hate Jalen Brunson.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oh, I do. Like, I hear it. You do? Okay. Of course, dude. Shane Gillis is texting me during the Philly series last year. Just. I can't say the words on this radio probably. But, I mean, he's just like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He hates him.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He's like, she sucks. He's the worst. Like, you know? But then, of course, like, I was on busting with the boys at pod and Shane calls in to trash the Knicks, and he's calling Josh Hart, like, all these kinds of things. And then I saw Josh Hart reposted. Like, damn. I guess I can't like Shane Gillis anymore. And Shane texts me. He's like, damn, I like Josh Hart.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's there to say about Josh Hart? Like, Josh Hart, he's like such a lovable to me. I mean, if you're playing against him, he's a lovable.

[Kaley Cuoco]

He's just drunk talking trash. I mean, like, that's why I love him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Why don't you ask how did Shane Gills end up a redneck from Philadelphia, by the way?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Because he's from, like the. He's not from the sticks. From the city.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. So the sticks.

[Alan Hahn]

He's from.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's from redneck Philadelphia. Yeah, he's from Pennsylvania.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Shane is very progressive considering where he came from. You don't understand. No, Shane is hilarious. And he's. But, like, he doesn't even care about the Sixers. He's just talking. They're like his, like, fifth favorite sports team. He's like. He's like Notre Dame. Eagles. Eagles, Then probably Phillies. I don't. I think the Sixers are like number five.

[Don LaGreca]

There's an area of Pennsylvania that my wife calls Pensatucky.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

People have a bunch of versions of that.

[Don LaGreca]

So, yeah, that's probably what we're talking about.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

You want to get a call or two? Want to talk to Nick fans?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

All right. Evan in Connecticut's got some. What you're looking for, which is positivity.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I need it.

[Alan Hahn]

Come on, Sam. Evan, talk to Sam.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's go.

[E]

Yeah, I'm trying to inject some positivity to everyone here. I'll be showing brief fans, especially New York fans, like to look into past situations to compare current series that teams playing.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I already know what he's going to say, by the way.

[E]

Ties a game under a minute. Okay, good. Then the Pistons miss and the Knicks hold for final shot. And then they win the game. Right. Kind of reminiscent of last year against the Sixers. Game two, and you can't believe it. Up two.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, yep.

[E]

Great situation. But it didn't happen. But that's okay. Okay. Because the last time they won the first game but lost second game in the first round was against a JB Bickerstaff team.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I knew he was going here.

[Alan Hahn]

The difference there is that the first two games were where?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Cleveland.

[E]

Cleveland.

[Kaley Cuoco]

That's okay.

[E]

That's okay. Because here's the thing.

[Alan Hahn]

We're Going back to your building, though.

[E]

That's okay.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm just trying to. I'm sorry. I'm bringing facts. My bad.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But it was also against a team that wasn't ready, and maybe this Piston seems not ready.

[E]

It's okay. Everything that we talk about the Knicks, we always have tibs in the back of our mind of how things are managed, game plans, all that. David Bickerstaff is cut from the same cloth.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[E]

He's not that much different. And this next team is a better offensive team than that that team was when they played against the Cats. All I'm trying to say is we have not seen this team play up to its highest potential. Okay? They've been playing down to the competition many times. This is probably the most frustrating 50 win team in NBA history.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not feeling great so far.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Where's the positivity, by the way? I hate to jump on what you're saying, but that Cavs team we out. Tough dude Mitchell Robinson beat up Jared Allen.

[E]

I'm just trying to say what has been noticed and how this team can be better. There's so much room for improvement. We have players on this team that can rise to the occasion. We have multiple players on the team that score 25, 30 points any given time.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[E]

Peter is gonna have the opportunity.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You should have played an hour ago.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Remember when he said, I'm gonna keep this brief?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There were so many lies.

[Don LaGreca]

Positive brief, by the way.

[Kaley Cuoco]

When he said. He kept saying, it's okay. It felt like when someone like. Like zips a body bag over your head and you're like, it's not okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not. It means I'm dead.

[Don LaGreca]

You gotta.

[Alan Hahn]

It's not your fault. It's gonna be your fault.

[Don LaGreca]

It's. You'll meet somebody.

[Alan Hahn]

Adam in Staten island is coming from a different direction. He's a depressed Knicks fan.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Okay, Adam, welcome.

[F]

Guys, listen, the bench stinks. And the bottom line is this. You know, we have guys on any given night, like Campaign, who can give you what he gave you, and that will never equate to consistency because they ultimately stink. They have no bench. And honestly, I don't have confidence in almost everybody when it comes to making a big shot at the end of the game. Did you have any confidence in Bridges, even og, as good as he'd been playing to make that big shot? It's like, we don't have that guy now. And I've said this before to you guys, even losing Divincenzo and Hardenstein. Although Hardenstein was not our fault. It took away two guys who were injected into the starting lineup that were really bench players. They were injected into the starting lineup because of injury, but those were solid bench players, role plays. And let me tell you, Defincenzo. I always felt like he's going to hit the three when he. When he was shooting.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[F]

All last year, I always felt confident in that guy. I don't feel that way about anybody on that court. I don't know what to say. I mean, I. Listen, I'm one of those fans that I love my teams, I'll roof them forever, and they'll make me miserable 90% of the time. And the Knicks, their bench just doesn't have it. I don't. I don't know what they were thinking going into the season with this bench or at the trade deadline. Deadline. Not trying to get somebody for the bench. Anyway, that's me. That's. It's just a miserable experience.

[Kaley Cuoco]

But the bench won the first game. You got it. I mean, I know you're saying they're inconsistent, but campaign won us that first game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What a tale of two phone calls.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Isn't that amazing? At least he got.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, they're both. They were both bad in different ways.

[Alan Hahn]

He got to the point, which is all that matters. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That he's just more.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I relate. I relate to that. That depressive energy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. He's broke.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I'm also hungover as hell right now. So that's like, you know, I felt that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Combination's rough.

[Alan Hahn]

The Errors Tour Carnegie Hall, December 4 Tickets on sale now. Samuel.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Tomorrow, I think it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, tomorrow. Yeah.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, they listen to the podcast. It's now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. You know what I mean?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, sure.

[Alan Hahn]

So Wednesday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wednesday.

[Alan Hahn]

But it'll be on set.

[Kaley Cuoco]

We got to leave on a more positive note, man. The Knicks, we're taking game three.

[Don LaGreca]

Dude, you feeling good about it?

[Kaley Cuoco]

I know. I hope. No, I don't feel good after that game. But the fact that it was. That we played that badly and it was that close gives me hope. And I played badly for two games.

[Alan Hahn]

And it's been close.

[Kaley Cuoco]

We. We are questioning the heart of this team right now. How do you respond? And I think. I think they're going to respond. I hope they're going to respond because I know we have the talent, but got to get to the line, got to play tougher. Look, I ride and die with this team, so I'll be watching, I'll be believing, but, you know, they got to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Show us and I wonder if there'll be a little less pressure on them away from the Garden, and they'll do better in the face of an aggressive Detroit crowd than sort of the lights of msg.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Johnson likes. He's almost like. It's like sadomasochism, where he, like, likes to be a little, like, beat up. Like, screw you, suck.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think he likes it, too. I think he is one of those guys.

[Don LaGreca]

Hype and energy for an inexperienced Detroit team could work against them.

[Kaley Cuoco]

That's true.

[Don LaGreca]

That building's gonna be up for grabs. People are gonna be really into it. They're gonna be talking up this team for two days before Thursday. Are they gonna be able to handle that? I was in a cocky team to begin with.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah, I was in. I was in Detroit. I just played Royal Oak, a theater there, about 10 days ago. And we're in an Uber talking Nick's. You know, I'm always in, like, Nick's stuff on the road. And the driver's like, screw you. He's like, they're talking trash already. I was like, bring it on, dude. But he was like, you can't hold Cade. And I was like, I like. I like Detroit's energy as a sports city. Cause they're kind of miserable, too. Like, just to be a Lions fan, you have to be so broken that I kind of like. I kind of like them. And I have some friends from Detroit, and they're just broken, so I kind of like them.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, you relate. You understand?

[Kaley Cuoco]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I felt bad. I actually. I felt the Detroit situation so bad that when my biggest. My number one team in life is the commanders. When we were beating him in that playoff game, I legitimately had moments of like. Even though we've been bad forever, I hate that we had to do it to them. They may never get back there again.

[Kaley Cuoco]

If you just don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

That was you. Like, Danny LaRusso gets his leg taken.

[Kaley Cuoco]

I'm sorry.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm sorry.

[Kaley Cuoco]

No. Is that what that moment was for you? My buddy, Alex English, he's a com. Not the basketball player. He's a comic. Alex English, he was a child at Malice in the Palace. Do you know what that does to you as a kid? You're like, am I gonna get beaten up? I love basketball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's when the players come and fight the fans.

[Alan Hahn]

So much fun. This was great, though, Sam.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Thanks for coming through.

[Alan Hahn]

At least we got to laugh through some of our pain.

[Don LaGreca]

You have anything left, or is the bottle empty?

[Alan Hahn]

Well, no. Peter was shaming me, so I had one shot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like the image, by the way, today of Alan Hahn will be on the subway just with an open bottle of whiskey in hand. That's, that's going to be very telling the next series wake up.

[Don LaGreca]

A change in his lap, right?

[Alan Hahn]

Could work.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Could try it every, every cop who watches MSG will understand why he's, why he started drinking.

[Alan Hahn]

Nobody will kick me and say keep it moving, but let's help this guy out.

[Don LaGreca]

Takes this job seriously, man. Sam.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks Sam.

[Don LaGreca]

Appreciate you bro.

[Kaley Cuoco]

Appreciate it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

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[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Alan Hahn]

There thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Kaley Cuoco]

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[Don LaGreca]

Mets Phillies coverage gets underway right here on 880. Immediately following us at 6:30. Devils Canes getting underway, game two at six. Yankees continue their series with the Guardians. Also at 6:00. Tullamore do the original triple distilled, triple blended and triple cast matured Irish Whiskey. Be sure to grab a Tullamore do and try the new Tullamore Dew Honey during tonight's action. Glasses up to enjoying Tullamore do responsibly. Want to remind everybody that even though ENN is coming up at 6 o'clock, it does not necessarily mean that the show is over after ENN because we're going to leave some time to talk some Mets. Going into our Mets coverage at 6:30 right here on 880. So if you want to climb aboard 1-800-919-3776 to talk some Mets, we will be able to take your calls after ENN. I know you're used to Ennis starting at 6 closing out the show and we're off at 6:30. But we're going to leave some time at the back end of ENN to talk some Mets baseball. They win 54 yesterday. Again, the bullpen gives it up. Diaz gives up the three run home run. All of a sudden five. Nothing becomes five four. You're a little nervous. They gave up the lead on Sunday, gave up the lead on Friday, but they still continue to win 16 7. Playing some tremendous baseball. There's a feeling there's a vibe around this team that they just refuse to lose. And Lindor, notoriously known as a slow starter and certainly he did in Houston, what was he like over 13 to start the season? Over 12? Something like that. And now he's just a Home run machine. And there was a moment in that game last night where Gary's like, well, does Lindor does all he do is hit home runs at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game, does he ever hit a home run in the middle of the game? And on the next pitch, he hit the home run that broke the game open at 5. Nothing. And they needed every bit of that to win the game.

[Kaley Cuoco]

5, 4.

[Don LaGreca]

So the Padres hot, Dodgers hot. Giants hot. National League is very, very competitive. But the Mets are holding their own 16 and seven. And that's after dropping two out of three to Houston. They completely bounce back after dropping two out of three to Minnesota. They are a machine at home. 10 and one to start the season at Citi Field. Two more games here against Philly tonight and tomorrow afternoon. So just a reminder, tomorrow we'll begin the Donjon Rosenberg vehicle at 3:00 on 1050, but then we'll convert to 880 as soon as the game is over. So we're looking forward to that.

[Alan Hahn]

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