Hour 3: Spike Lee joins the show

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Spike Lee Joins the Show
Released May 6, 2025

In the third hour of the "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" podcast, ESPN New York hosts Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, and Peter Rosenberg welcome special guest Spike Lee. The episode delves into a rich tapestry of topics ranging from Spike Lee's relationship with New York sports, his filmmaking endeavors, personal anecdotes, and lighthearted debates on pop culture.

Introduction of Spike Lee

The episode kicks off with Don LaGreca and Alan Hahn discussing recent significant events in New York, including the Knicks' impressive Game 1 victory in the playoffs and the glitz of the Met Gala. Amidst the buzz, Spike Lee makes his entrance, bringing his unique perspective to the table.

Don LaGreca (00:44):
"We had the Knicks with a big Game 1 win and the Met Gala where Spike Lee had a face-off. What do I do?"

Spike Lee's presence adds a dynamic layer to the conversation, blending sports enthusiasm with cultural insights.

Knicks Playoffs and Spike Lee's Choice

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Spike Lee's decision to attend the Met Gala instead of being present at the pivotal Game 1 for the Knicks. The hosts probe into his reasoning, exploring themes of loyalty, timing, and personal commitments.

Don LaGreca (01:11):
"My Knicks are in the second round of the playoffs against the ball teams. Or the Met Gala where nozzles gather."

Spike candidly shares his reasoning, balancing his passion for sports with the allure and importance of the Met Gala.

Spike Lee (02:50):
"No choice. But I wanted to go with her. She cannot go there alone. That's not a good look."

This decision sparks a deeper conversation about balancing personal life with professional interests, illustrating Spike Lee's dedication both to his family and his love for the Knicks.

Spike Lee's Involvement with the Knicks

Alan Hahn delves into Spike Lee's strategic thinking regarding the Knicks' playoff chances, highlighting his analytical approach to the game.

Don LaGreca (04:23):
"Now, did you go into this series like house money, we got no shot, or did you think and dream big that maybe there was a scenario in which they could possibly win the series?"

Spike Lee discusses his optimism rooted in the Knicks' potential to overcome the Celtics, emphasizing key moments like three-point misses that could tilt the balance in their favor.

Spike Lee (05:02):
"They might not shoot as many threes, too. Joe Missoula."

He praises the Knicks' coach Joe Missoula, reflecting on their collaborative relationship and shared aspirations.

Filmmaking and Collaborations

Shifting gears, the conversation explores Spike Lee's illustrious career in filmmaking. He reminisces about working with Denzel Washington and touches upon upcoming projects, showcasing his continuous influence in the film industry.

Spike Lee (13:32):
"Yeah. Number five first mo better blues. Malcolm X. He got game basketball, class."

The hosts express admiration for Spike Lee's body of work, with Peter Rosenberg particularly highlighting the anticipation around Ryan Coogler's success.

Peter Rosenberg (14:24):
"He's something else, huh?"

Spike Lee shares a personal note about screening a film for Coogler, underscoring the interconnectedness of influential figures in the industry.

Personal Anecdotes and Family Ties

Spike Lee opens up about his family background, particularly his father's influence and his relationship with his cousin Malcolm. These personal stories add depth to his character, illustrating how his upbringing in Brooklyn shaped his passions.

Spike Lee (16:18):
"I was there as a witness. So that's what I go by."

He recounts witnessing historic Knicks moments firsthand, blending personal memories with broader sports narratives.

Pop Culture and Lighthearted Banter

The hosts engage Spike Lee in playful debates, such as ranking Knicks' greats and discussing the aging of actors like Delroy Lindo and Danny Glover. These segments infuse humor and relatability, making the conversation engaging and multifaceted.

Don LaGreca (22:19):
"He's playing the African general. He's hilarious."

Spike Lee humorously addresses comments about his appearance and the timeless look of certain actors, highlighting his ability to navigate playful teasing with grace.

Taco Tuesday Debate

In a spirited exchange, the hosts and Spike Lee tackle the classic "Taco Tuesday" debate—crunchy versus soft tacos. This segment showcases the camaraderie among the hosts and their ability to balance serious discussions with light-hearted topics.

Caller (42:16):
"Crunchy tacos or soft tacos? I'm a crunchy taco guy, but she does soft tacos."

The debate peaks with humorous exchanges, reflecting the show's dynamic flow and the hosts' chemistry.

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode concludes, the hosts reflect on the intense Game 1 and speculate on upcoming games. Spike Lee's nostalgic recounting of past Knicks' championships ties back to the present, emphasizing the enduring spirit of New York sports.

Spike Lee (18:16):
"I was there, a witness. So that's what I go by."

The discussion wraps up with predictions for future games and a heartfelt acknowledgment of Spike Lee's contributions both to cinema and the vibrant New York sports scene.

Notable Quotes

• Spike Lee (02:50): "No choice. But I wanted to go with her. She cannot go there alone. That's not a good look."
• Spike Lee (05:02): "They might not shoot as many threes, too. Joe Missoula."
• Don LaGreca (22:19): "He's playing the African general. He's hilarious."
• Spike Lee (18:16): "I was there, a witness. So that's what I go by."

Conclusion

This episode of "Don, Hahn & Rosenberg" masterfully blends sports, culture, and personal narratives, offering listeners an engaging and insightful conversation with Spike Lee. From playoff strategies and filmmaking insights to playful debates and heartfelt stories, the hosts and Spike Lee create a vibrant tapestry that resonates with both sports enthusiasts and cultural aficionados.

Transcript

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[Don LaGreca]

In the big city. Don Legreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg. Don Hahn and Rosenberg take you up until 7:00. Lot going on last night you had the Knicks with a big Game 1 win and the Met Gala. And Spike Lee had a face off. What do I do? My Knicks in the second round of the playoffs against the ball teams. The Boston Celtics, the dream matchup we've been thinking about salivating about since the trade during the off season. Or the Met Gala where nozzles gather. Gather.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, well, that's not just.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no, no. I mean, I don't need. People wore pianos. Stop.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was Andre 3000.

[Don LaGreca]

I understand and I respect them. And he's a great musician, bad dresser, but just the great. Spike Lee joins us, always humbled by his presence.

[Spike Lee]

How's everybody doing?

[Don LaGreca]

Good, how are you? You must be excited about the Nick you missed.

[Spike Lee]

I'm floating in orange blue skies.

[Don LaGreca]

Now let's get right to you know me.

[Spike Lee]

I gave that to Steve and A. Smith, so just. Yeah, we know the record state.

[Don LaGreca]

Now let's get to the bottom of this. You know me for a long time and I have fun with you with the fraud stuff, but how. How difficult a decision because I know how important the Met Gala was last night and the theme of it and the charitable aspect of it and.

[Spike Lee]

Can I ask you a question?

[Don LaGreca]

Yes.

[Spike Lee]

Are you married?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Spike Lee]

Told you I've been married. I've been married 30 years. And I didn't want to end last night.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I told you.

[Don LaGreca]

I said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I told Spike. I said to die.

[Spike Lee]

We got invited to be an honorary committee.

[Don LaGreca]

That's it.

[Spike Lee]

My pupil wife, Tanya got addressed. That's it was over.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Spike, listen, I said there are two things. I said, number one, the theme last night, it might have been something Spike was interested in being a part of. And I said number two. And we just the other day we were discussing would Michael K. Skip a Yankee game for the Met Gala. And I said, no matter how much trash he's talked about it, if his wife Jody, got the invite, he's going.

[Don LaGreca]

He has to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's skipping the Yankees. And I had a hunch, Spike, that this was a similar situation for you. You didn't have a choice last night.

[Spike Lee]

No choice. But I wanted to go. You know, I wanted to go with her. She cannot go there alone. That's not a good look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. Did you have the phone out at the table, though? How'd you do that?

[Spike Lee]

Well, I had. I had a phone.

[Alan Hahn]

Boom.

[Spike Lee]

So I just kept looking at the scores, and I was the only one.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm sure a lot of people were in on it.

[Alan Hahn]

Was there a part last night? Because it did go pretty late. The game. The game got interesting late. Were you still there? And did you have to contain yourself when Brunson starts knocking threes down and now all of a sudden you're thinking, they can win this game?

[Spike Lee]

All I was getting on my phone was the scores. Not necessarily. Who's doing what. Oh, and then, you know, someone told me, because I was eating and said, we're down by 20. I said, WTF?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You thought. You thought you were lucked out, but.

[Spike Lee]

And then there's a whole bunch of us were. We were Nick fans. So everybody had a reason why they're at the Boston Garden, but we were there. We were Nick fans. Last night, Met Gala. And it was a beautiful thing.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, was it just because of the attention? You didn't want to be rude, but we have the technology. We could have watched it on your phone instead of having to check the school.

[Spike Lee]

Yeah, I'm not that. I'm not that technically.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, talented. You've directed Academy Award winning movies.

[Alan Hahn]

You can't figure out you need a better assistant.

[Spike Lee]

My grown children have to turn on the TV for me.

[Don LaGreca]

Now, did you go into this series like, house money, we got no shot, or did you think and dream big that maybe there was a scenario in which they could possibly win the series?

[Spike Lee]

No, I knew. I knew that we have a greater chance to win if we get steal game one in the Boston Guard. And we did that. And then, I mean, how many three points did they miss, man? What kind of standard offense?

[Alan Hahn]

They missed 35, 45, spike. They missed 45 threes.

[Spike Lee]

Well, they're not going to miss another 45, but also they might not shoot as many threes, too.

[Alan Hahn]

So they took six.

[Spike Lee]

You know, Joe, Joe. In fact, I love their coach. You know, he came to my office in Brooklyn, you know, so he's a good guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Joe Missoula.

[Spike Lee]

I like him a lot. But here's the thing, though. My new film starring Denzel Washington heard about this. It's called Highs, the lowest. And game six is a Saturday, and the next day I'm flying to France, so there's a situation we could win game six in the Garden for have to go to France for the film, the world premiere.

[Alan Hahn]

Wow, that would time out nicely. Now, I do have to let you know that while Dom was taking you to task. Now you know our good friend Mike Greenberg at espn, right? Greeny?

[Spike Lee]

Yeah, yeah. Good guy. Good guy.

[Alan Hahn]

Great guy.

[Don LaGreca]

We were.

[Alan Hahn]

We were discussing you. We showed the. A picture of you at the Met gala today on get up and showed what you went.

[Spike Lee]

You dropped out.

[Alan Hahn]

We showed a picture of you from the Met gala on get up this morning. We showed that picture. And Greeny then, you know, couldn't believe. He also was incredulous that you would not be at game one. Nick Celtics. And then he said, now you know how this works. They won. He wasn't there. He can't go to game two. That's what Greenie said. Are you going to game two?

[Spike Lee]

Haven't decided yet. Haven't decided yet.

[Alan Hahn]

Are you superstitious like that, though, that you would say, all right, they won without me, maybe I shouldn't go?

[Spike Lee]

Here's what I'm superstitious at. When you walk with somebody, you can't split the pole. That's some Brooklyn stuff.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I get it.

[Caller]

And you can't.

[Spike Lee]

You can't toast. Well, somebody's. You have an alcohol and gas water. You can't toast.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, all right, that's it. But you don't. But it's not about whether you went to a game or not. See, Greeny feels like you shouldn't go to game two on luck. Like, because they won game one without you there. And if you go there, you could mess up the mojo. Are you feeling that or you don't.

[Spike Lee]

You know my. You know my answer. That is what, 1970? Game 7, New York Knicks versus LA Lakers. I was at the game, so everything else, I'm not. I was out. I was at a first championship. 13 years old.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Spike Lee]

Oh, so that. That's how I answer that question.

[Alan Hahn]

I would also answer it like this. You were at the Garden for game five against Reggie, and all that went down and you went to get.

[Spike Lee]

Let me finish this, okay?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, please do.

[Spike Lee]

The morning of game. The app at the morning after game five hours on the front page. Of the Daily News, Newsday and New York Post saying front and back covers saying I was the reason Knicks loss. And if, if John Starks didn't go crazy game six, I would have had to move. Every time I see John Starks, I give him a hug. And right now he's like, spike, no more hugs. I know, I know, I know, I know. And that game, that game, I think it would have been a punk move not to go to Indiana. And before, when I landed, they were all kind of pressed. And then the guy didn't go straight to me. I went to visit. Mike Tyson was locked up, so all the inmates were killing us. I mean, no, let me change. Let me change that word. Yelling at him, screaming at him. That man had to do a little detour right there. Look at the end of that game. You remember that game?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Spike Lee]

Indiana was ahead and the ushers lined the court with rope to keep the fans of storming the court. And then my brother John Starks got hot. Yeah, he won the game. Came back to the Garden for game seven.

[Alan Hahn]

And that was, that was the Ewing. That was Ewing put back dunk. And I was asking this question the other day, Spike. So Brunson's shot against the Pistons, you know that incredible three pointer that he hit where he shook Thompson. You've seen some great shots. Obviously, Ewing's put.

[Spike Lee]

You can't leave LJ.

[Alan Hahn]

LJ's four point play. Right. Like, think about all these.

[Spike Lee]

Alan Houston in Miami.

[Alan Hahn]

Where would you put Brunson's now among all those, I have Willis Reed's first jumper in 1970, Game 7 as the best shot in franchise history because of what it meant.

[Spike Lee]

Well, here's the thing though, because I was there when he drank is the thing he got. I got. That needle he had was the kind of needles that give horse.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Spike Lee]

So it took. It takes time for that, for that drug to get in the, you know, bloodstream. So all the players were doing a layup line. And I swear my mother's grave, this I've never, I've been a lot of sporting events. World Cup, World Series, Super Bowl. I've never heard a crowd cheer as loud when they saw Willis come out and he was dragging his leg and he had, he hit his first two shots warming up. But here's the thing, though. The entire Laker team stop. They were frozen and turned around and see Willis limp to where the Knicks were doing a live line. Everybody is funny. I was in LA for Kobe's Memorial and I saw Jerry West. I brought that up. You said Spike, you didn't see it. I kept my layup going. He was lying, stopped frozen.

[Don LaGreca]

We're talking to the great Spike Lee here on Don Hahn and Rosenberg. You hear Brunson shot that Alan asked you about.

[Alan Hahn]

Where.

[Don LaGreca]

Where does Brunson rank for you among the great Knicks.

[Spike Lee]

Here's the thing. I'm getting to the age where comparing who's the goat and this and that, it's just for me it's pointless, you know, to me, Jordan's a goat and everything else you guys argue about, you know, you got, you know, you got, you know, to talk Ray and stuff like that. But here's the thing. Jalen Brunson not done. No, he's not done. So I'm not gonna start comparing, you know, who's the greatest. Knick. Well, how about putting Brunson's not done.

[Alan Hahn]

Do you put him in the category now though, already? Do you start to move him into all time?

[Spike Lee]

Oh, yeah, first class. He's in there. Well, I'm not gonna unreal. Not just rank who's who's what and who's when and where, but he's in there.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. I get to the age now where the better thing to do is could he play in. He looks like a guy that you can plug into that to that 70s championship team.

[Spike Lee]

That is a very good point. And that goes with all sports. It's different eras, you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So who's your Brunson's obviously so lovable. Spike, who's your favorite non Brunson on this Knicks team?

[Spike Lee]

I'm not going to answer that question. I could talk about the old team. Well, Frazier, my guy growing up, well.

[Caller]

Tried.

[Spike Lee]

And he's still doing it. I mean, years old, a man I, I still idolize Wolf Rager.

[Alan Hahn]

Me too.

[Spike Lee]

Winning is spinning and winning. No, growing up in Brooklyn. Growing up in Brooklyn, Walt Frazier. And you know, I wasn't even mad when Earl of Pearl came. Here's the thing. When you grow up a kid and you idolize his people, then you're a grown and you get to meet them in person. It's amazing. I mean, I got to meet Willie Mays and that was my guy baseball, William Mays. And my guy was name of two. And Ali. Those are my guys. Ali, Frazier, Willie Mays.

[Don LaGreca]

That era was crazy.

[Spike Lee]

Those are my guys growing up in Brooklyn. And you get to meet them and they like your fields too.

[Don LaGreca]

You met all of them.

[Spike Lee]

You can't beat that.

[Alan Hahn]

Speaking of which, what was it like working with Denzel again? Like you said you have highest to lowest, right?

[Spike Lee]

Yeah. Number five first mo better blues. Malcolm X. He got game basketball, class. And then Inside Man. And the crazy thing is that I didn't know two people told me Inside man was 18 years ago, but then they told Denzel's the same thing for us. Like, it's like Inside man was like last week.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, that feels like a recent one. That was the most that just happened.

[Spike Lee]

Yeah. Yeah. 18 years old, so. 18 years again. So here's the thing. Our relationship, you know, we don't have to be in the other space. You know, he lives in LA and on New York. And then, you know, so we don't see each other that much. You don't really hang out, but we see each other, you know, it's number love, L, V E.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do you have any thoughts on the incredible success that Ryan Coogler is having with Sinners and just.

[Spike Lee]

That's. That's my brother. That's my brother.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's something else, huh?

[Spike Lee]

Yeah. In fact, I'm getting. I'm getting ready to screen a film for him at 7:00. And his beauty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wow. Really?

[Spike Lee]

Hello.

[Don LaGreca]

We lost you for a second.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're screening. You're screening the film for him today.

[Spike Lee]

Seven o'clock.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Spike Lee]

Tight. The lowest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, wow.

[Alan Hahn]

Where.

[Spike Lee]

What's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's the address? We coming through. I'll bring popcorn.

[Spike Lee]

It's a private screening.

[Alan Hahn]

That's all right. We won't tell anybody.

[Don LaGreca]

Exactly.

[Spike Lee]

But here's the thing, though. Me and I'm so happy for Orion and what he's done. And here's a gangster movie that. Here's the gangster move, which he did. He owns. He can own his film in 25 years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep. He gets full ownership after 25 years.

[Spike Lee]

And that's gangster?

[Don LaGreca]

I gotta ask you. It's been debated. I've thrown out. I think it's obvious that I think right now, forget about the winning in the clutch. I get Jeter is going to win that debate. But I think Aaron Judge is a better ballplayer than Derek Jeter. Is that an outlandish thought to you?

[Spike Lee]

I know both of these guys. What are we doing here? What are we doing? What we doing? What we doing? What's the matter?

[Don LaGreca]

What's the matter with you? You're a trailblazer in the movie. You got guts making movies and you don't show any on sports radio.

[Spike Lee]

The Lees were the first black family to move in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn. And back then, Cobble Hill was stone Italian American. So what you doing what you doing. What's the matter with you?

[Don LaGreca]

But just.

[Spike Lee]

And that's where. And that's that. That's where the seas. From the seeds of do the right thing and jungle fever came. You know, being the first black family in the Italian neighborhood in Brooklyn, New York.

[Alan Hahn]

I believe it. Yeah. You could see. Well, you could see the influences there for sure.

[Spike Lee]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But did you grow up.

[Alan Hahn]

Made it relatable though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, did you grow up physically, super physically close to your cousin Malcolm?

[Spike Lee]

I mean, that's my father's, my uncle's, my father's brother. Son. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, my father kicked me out the house I was living with. With Malcolm and the family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Malcolm was an incredibly successful director in his own right, of course.

[Spike Lee]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So, you know, we got to win. We got to win this game.

[Alan Hahn]

Give me a prediction. And now they won game one. What are you seeing now? Like what are you feeling in this series? Because every fan, especially somebody been a.

[Spike Lee]

Fan of the Celtics.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Spike Lee]

And also they get behind that their fans will start born them.

[Alan Hahn]

Imagine that you watch Boston, Boston fans booing their own team.

[Spike Lee]

You think that's never happened in the history of sports in Boston?

[Alan Hahn]

I certainly know it has.

[Spike Lee]

Come on. Buckner had to leave. What are you talking about? I was at that game too, when it went to his legs. The last road Shea Stadium, man.

[Alan Hahn]

And that. Yeah, that was in New York, though. It's a totally different story. But. But this. You're right about the pressure.

[Spike Lee]

Why you think he had to move?

[Alan Hahn]

You're right about. But they forgive them since right when they won the World Series. Wasn't that a whole thing?

[Don LaGreca]

That was a thing.

[Spike Lee]

He moved out already.

[Alan Hahn]

He didn't move.

[Spike Lee]

He moved. Idaho, somewhere like that.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, well, this is what we're going to do. We're going to keep an eye on the sidelines at TD Garden, the other.

[Spike Lee]

Guard, and we're going to see my guy, Al Palagonian.

[Alan Hahn]

All right, let's see if you are there.

[Don LaGreca]

They'll show you.

[Alan Hahn]

And. And then we'll see how the game ends and then we'll know whether or.

[Don LaGreca]

Not you're there or not.

[Alan Hahn]

He followed through with the luck or not.

[Spike Lee]

But gentlemen, I hate to repeat my soul, but May 8, 1970, hours of game seven.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It happened.

[Spike Lee]

It happened. I was there, a witness. So that's what I go by. I was there for the first world championship of New York Knicks and I had the original band hung in the garden in my office.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's his worst Original one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Spike Lee]

You look at my Instagram, you'll see.

[Don LaGreca]

And that. And that's the scene in Crookland, right?

[Spike Lee]

Oh, yeah, my. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My father had a concert that night, and he told me, my father. My love of sports comes from my father. He said, go, go, go, go, go. My mother said, no, no, no, one last thing. Because we were talking about the Mets. Last thing, I promise.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay.

[Spike Lee]

Back in the day, the World Series were day games. They weren't on their games. 1969, New York Men's versus the Baltimore Orioles. Games 3, 4, and 5 won Shea Stale. We split in Memorial Stadium, first two games.

[Don LaGreca]

Yep.

[Spike Lee]

My mother says, spike, you're going to school. My father's. No, he ain't. He's going to the World Series.

[Don LaGreca]

All right, so. So declare.

[Spike Lee]

My love of sports comes from my late father.

[Don LaGreca]

So you're. You're so. So say it right now for all to hear. You're more of a Met fan than a Yankee.

[Spike Lee]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I don't hate. Look, I got, I got, I got. I. Look, I don't hate the Mets.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, you were at the World Series of 69. You were the pole that went between Buckner's legs. You just referred to the Mets as we.

[Spike Lee]

No, I didn't say we. Yes, you check the tape. Check the tape. Go to the audio tape.

[Don LaGreca]

Going at Spike.

[Alan Hahn]

Appreciate you, man. Thank you.

[Don LaGreca]

Thanks, man.

[Alan Hahn]

The fact that you go at him and he loves the jiggle.

[Don LaGreca]

Adam 69, 86.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's an insane thing. Now, listen, like, he's a New York fan.

[Spike Lee]

Clearly.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen, I think New York is playing something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think. I think sometimes in our fun with the show, we can be unrealistic about fraudulent things that can happen over a lifetime. In sports, it does happen, right? But spikes, Mets, Yankees thing is tough.

[Alan Hahn]

There's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because he never moved, right. Like, he's been here the whole time. It's pretty much once one got hot.

[Alan Hahn]

But you know what his Mets thing is? His Mets thing is National League, Brooklyn Dodgers. The Dodgers left Brooklyn. The Mets were sort of like the replacement. I get it. But that's like the Mets had, like. It's almost like a soft spot in his heart. Even though the Yankees became his team.

[Don LaGreca]

Fraud thing is a me thing. I hold people to a different standard. Doesn't mean you're a bad guy, because he's clearly not a bad guy. I just love that one of the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Greatest American filmmakers who ever lived, wearing.

[Don LaGreca]

His Yankee hat, talking about knowing Jeter and Judge and then, you know, Waxing poetic about being there in 69.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's everything.

[Don LaGreca]

Say, wait, we could check. He definitely said we, you know, so.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But Don, you want to know things? You mentioned Crooklyn. I'm going to blow your mind. So the great, the underrated and fantastic actor Delroy Lindo is in Sinners.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay, how old is he now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So hold. So he plays a character, plays a musician, and he looks like Delroy Lindo. You don't see Lebron James. You don't go like, Lebron looks older. Of course. No, no, but you don't. When you see Delroy Lindo in this film, you don't go, oh, my God, like, he got so old. You just go, oh, he looks like Delroy Lindo. Right?

[Alan Hahn]

That's a good point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So I looked it up. Do you know how old Delroy Lindo is right now?

[Don LaGreca]

God, I would think he's early 70s.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's gotta be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's 72.

[Don LaGreca]

Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which is Don, I did the math. And Crookle, he was only 42 years old.

[Alan Hahn]

He looked 50, 60 years old.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, no, he looked 60 in Crookland. He looks the same as he looks right now, right?

[Don LaGreca]

No, he just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's looked 65 for 30 straight years. 72, still not old.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what? You know what a role. It's not a great movie, but he does a great job in it. He's in it for a very short period of time. You ever see Congo?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but not for a very long time.

[Don LaGreca]

But he plays like the African general. He's hilarious.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And let me guess, he looks 65 years old.

[Don LaGreca]

He looks exactly. He doesn't age at all. But I've seen in Crookly where he comes home and says, you know, the Knicks won the championship and his dad's playing like, poker at the table or the kitchen table. And that's him.

[Alan Hahn]

He's like.

[Don LaGreca]

He says something like, yeah, yeah, it's a great scene. And every time he brings up that he was there in 1970, that's where he got that scene from.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's so cool, man.

[Alan Hahn]

He's like, Danny Glover's another actor that has been old forever, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Glover. Yeah, I met Glover last year, remember?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, yeah, I went to a party.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he was there.

[Don LaGreca]

I think about Lethal Web.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He got old up, by the way.

[Alan Hahn]

He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's now. He's now.

[Alan Hahn]

But he was always old.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And when I said it, when I saw him, he said, you know what?

[Alan Hahn]

He said, I'm too old for this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He said, I'm too old for this. Saturday night at 10 o'clock.

[Don LaGreca]

The theme of Lethal Weapon, which came out in 87, is that he turned 50. Now, I don't know if he was really 50 in that movie.

[Alan Hahn]

Was he 50 in that movie?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Which. Which movie?

[Don LaGreca]

In. In Lethal Weapon?

[Alan Hahn]

The first one.

[Don LaGreca]

The first one.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, well, that means he was playing older then. He had to, because the first one's what, 85? 84?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, well, I thought the first one was 87. I got to look it up. But still, it was very, very.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, Spike's fun. I'm glad he could give us a few minutes, but that was great.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

I don't know.

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[Alan Hahn]

7:58 Sunset.

[Don LaGreca]

That's crazy.

[Alan Hahn]

But we're not going to see it, Unfortunately. But still. 758. We're there. Like we're there now. We're in this. We're in the sweet spot.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, Winter's garbage. Let's be honest.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, we hate it. Winter's only good. Winter's only good from. Was it December 21st? Right. Is that the solstice?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think so.

[Spike Lee]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

It's only good from there until. What about January 6th, 7th, 8th?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like holidays, maybe the second.

[Alan Hahn]

And then for Dunn, then let's get to spring. Agree.

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, because you want to do stuff. You want the sun to be out.

[Alan Hahn]

And you want a life, not sunset at 5:02.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, it's so depressing. And I always felt bad for like those people like that, like, have to be at work at like 6 or 7 o'clock in the morning. Like they're driving to work in the dark. They're driving home in the dark. It's depressing. Like you live in Alaska and we.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don'T even get snow anymore.

[Alan Hahn]

Have you been to Alaska?

[Don LaGreca]

I have.

[Alan Hahn]

Not in that time of year.

[Don LaGreca]

Have you?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes, I was in Anchorage in December one year.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What bet did you dream about?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I did it. Butch Goring was coaching over there and I went. They sent me to do a story on them and I spent a couple of days there. So there was a I'm in a hotel. The restaurant's like, literally a city block down. And I go to the. Go to. Walk out the door, walk down the block for dinner. It was obviously. It was dark. 20 hours out of that. And as I get to the door, the doorman's like, where are you going? I go on to dinner. Going to that restaurant right there. He goes, I'll call you a cab. I go, no, no, it's right there. I go, I'm from New York. We used to walk and. Don't worry about it. He goes, you're going to need a cab. I'm like, it's right there. It's not that big of a deal, okay? I took maybe 10 steps out the door. I couldn't breathe. My lungs were freezing. Like, literally, like, I was struggling to draw breath. Turned around, came back in. He goes, want me to get you that cab now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I say this respectfully, Alan. I say this respectfully.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What kind of jackass are you? You didn't. I mean, he was literally in Alaska, but it didn't cross.

[Don LaGreca]

The same thing happened.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The guy's saying, you're not good.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. He was warning me ahead of time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And you're like, no, no, I got it.

[Alan Hahn]

I was like. I was like, 28, 29. Like, I was like, buddy, we got this.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is so.

[Alan Hahn]

The arrogance of it was very new.

[Don LaGreca]

Being from New York. Like, listen, I'm not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We got everything.

[Don LaGreca]

And it's. I, believe me, get. We get cold in New York. But there's certain places that happened to me in Winnipeg, Portage in Maine, which is the main intersection in Winnipeg. And they joke about it. It's like an urban legend that it's the coldest intersection in North America. Because you'll walk out of the hotel. I forget what hotel we stay. It's a Fairmont, and it's within walking distance of the arena. And then everybody tells. Don't walk to the arena. We've got underground stuff for a reason. And you walk out of the hotel and you're like, it's not bad. And then you turn, and then the wind hits you, and literally, you can't breathe, people.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, no, no.

[Alan Hahn]

I know it's crazy, but it does.

[Don LaGreca]

Incredibly cold. So I'm sure, like, Alaska, Winnipeg, these places.

[Alan Hahn]

The guy's face was great. He handled it just as you would expect. We just went, okay. And just stared at me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go ahead, bud.

[Alan Hahn]

And when I came back, he's like, need that cab? Didn't change his expression. He was just deadpan the whole Time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, because you're not the first moron.

[Don LaGreca]

He's telling you what the temperature was. Like, actual number.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, no, it was minus double figures. But I. More than, you know, like more than 10. It was 20 something. 30. Whatever it was, it was not inhabitable.

[Don LaGreca]

Gary Frazier wrote in his book, the Old NHL.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, sure.

[Don LaGreca]

That there was a game where they landed in Winnipeg, like in the dead of winter, and it was minus 98. And they said, do not expose any of your skin. Like if you're outside, that's where you get those ski masks. Like, like literally wearing sunglasses. Like if you expose any. It's frustrating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What?

[Don LaGreca]

These are obviously Buffalo, Winnipeg. Howie Rose's line was always that the reason there's a Winnipeg is because Canada was jealous they didn't have a Buffalo. That's. And it's a great. But it's a great. Obviously these cities were founded like in July, like as you're. As you're walking across.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, you mean like the frontier? Like frontiersmen.

[Don LaGreca]

Like when you decided to plant the flag and say, this is where we'll settle. Gorgeous here. Because if it was in the middle of winter, you would have just kept walk.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, no, walking, running. You wouldn't go that way.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I'm just saying at some point. But yes, you know.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, this is. These places were discovered in July when it was, you know, a balmy, like 63 degrees and no humidity. It was gorgeous. And you thought, this is a wonderful place.

[Don LaGreca]

Wonderful.

[Alan Hahn]

And then September came.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. And then. Can we leave? No, we've already.

[Alan Hahn]

No, we're stuck.

[Don LaGreca]

We've already built the shed. It's shed. I don't know, what would you call it? Those mud huts that they had? Braveheart.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There have been 217 Italian popes.

[Alan Hahn]

I guess it's very popular.

[Don LaGreca]

You could have said a thousand.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't know there were that many Popes.

[Alan Hahn]

We've never had an American Pope, right?

[Don LaGreca]

No. Are you kidding?

[Peter Rosenberg]

They want someone like Wise.

[Alan Hahn]

There's only been one in the Americas and it was the last one. Yeah, it was South America. Right. He was technically German.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Will any of the betting apps allow you to put money on the Ivalis?

[Spike Lee]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

No offshores.

[Don LaGreca]

You'll go to hell. But you could do it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I won't. I'll be a fab. I won't even be affected one way or the other.

[Alan Hahn]

Does it affect you at all?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It won't affect me at all. No more for you.

[Alan Hahn]

It's literally like betting on baseball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'll equally go to Hell, for betting, maybe, but it won't be any different than, you know, betting the world.

[Alan Hahn]

I think that's a test from God. We have contenders, by the way, on abc.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's why I'm watching, because I like this guy. He's from the Congo. I like.

[Don LaGreca]

He may be the first ever pulp of color. And there may be the first Asian Pope as well.

[Alan Hahn]

So we have a Hungarian here. He's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Doesn't excite me.

[Alan Hahn]

No. You don't like Cardinal Peter?

[Spike Lee]

No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No disrespect, but half my family's Hungarian.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, but they showed the picture of that guy and said, that was the Pope. Two popes ago, you wouldn't have argued.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, boy, I'll tell you what, some of the popes of my lifetime really all look like the same guy.

[Alan Hahn]

They really do. I gotta be honest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They've all seen the same John Paul the Blank.

[Don LaGreca]

That's my fault. No, but, but, but that's the one when it was the Yankee Stadium.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's your Pope.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. Well, he had the head lean. Everything was always off to the side. Yeah. You think Dolan has got a shot one day? Just. The guy's. The guy's all over New York City, but very popular.

[Don LaGreca]

I think they hate Americans. Honestly, he could.

[Alan Hahn]

He could host a talk show. There's no question.

[Don LaGreca]

I think he has.

[Alan Hahn]

No. I mean, like.

[Don LaGreca]

No. I mean, I think he did a show on abc.

[Alan Hahn]

What?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he's out there.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm talking about, like, Phil Donahue style, where he's, like, in the crowd and he's interviewing.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. The baby's yours.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got the amount. The amount that. The amount that Dolan is out publicly. Kentavius Caldwell Pope has a better chance than he's got. There's no shot.

[Alan Hahn]

Okay, we should get him on. Anthony, get him on. We should have him on, see what he thinks.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He doesn't have much going on right now.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he's going to be busy in a.

[Don LaGreca]

No, when he gets back, he'll tell.

[Alan Hahn]

Us the whole story. He's a big Yankee fan. There's rules. He can't text us. He can't wait. We should get them off.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They all go there and, like, wait. Yeah, Everyone has said go there.

[Don LaGreca]

Do you now?

[Alan Hahn]

This is spaghetti, I'd imagine. I've got a couple of Catholics. Right. Like, we should get them on a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There are a lot of Catholics who have shows. I don't know if you can go on everyone's show.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, you can come on ours. He's a Yankee fan.

[Peter Rosenberg]

True.

[Don LaGreca]

The record. What's the record for the longest decision? I found this out this morning, and it happened in, like, 1230, so it was, like, a long time. Like the year 1230. One time ago.

[Alan Hahn]

It took that long to get to White Smoke.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, yeah. How long was the wait? That's the record. The record. Do you know?

[Alan Hahn]

Days?

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know. How many days?

[Alan Hahn]

You're asking me. Then you know the answer.

[Don LaGreca]

I know the answer.

[Alan Hahn]

So it's not.

[Don LaGreca]

I have to.

[Alan Hahn]

It's clearly not days, then.

[Don LaGreca]

No, it's not days.

[Alan Hahn]

Months?

[Don LaGreca]

No.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, my God.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. The longest. It took three years.

[Alan Hahn]

Three years. They got the right decision. What did they do all that time?

[Don LaGreca]

I don't know. Just whatever you did back in 1230, not much.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, this video I just saw put out by msg.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, God.

[Peter Rosenberg]

MSG put out a video of Alan watching the end of the game. You should talk to someone about this.

[Alan Hahn]

Why am I going to.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They made you look like a complete yo yo.

[Alan Hahn]

A yo yo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Everyone else is sitting like a professional doing notes, and this guy's jumping up like a fanboy yo.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know if I jumped.

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's a jump.

[Alan Hahn]

I think I was watching the last. The last play, which was the inbounds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I told you. I told you. You still love this team this much. Look at this. Look how excited you are. The steel. Look at that. The double fist pump after Bridges makes the steal. Oh, no. Look, Wally clapped at least, but his clop is more like. All right, let's start the show.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, he played for the Celtics.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, we don't. We don't claim Wally. Respectfully.

[Alan Hahn]

You don't claim Wally.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We don't claim Wally.

[Alan Hahn]

How dare you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, I'm not saying he's unwelcome, but we don't. We don't claim Wally.

[Alan Hahn]

But you should see Peto. See, Peto can't handle the good things when they're. When things are going bad.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Peto looks like he's not even.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, he's getting ready because, you know, the minute the game's over, we go right on the air. There's no waiting. The game's over. We're allowed to go right on the.

[Don LaGreca]

Air at the end of the video. You can see.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, we're sitting. You're getting ready, but I'm tucking it in.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, somebody's.

[Alan Hahn]

I am. I. I am watching that. Just because you want the game to be over, like, end this thing, right? Because I've got, like, an early wake up. We're already late. It's overtime. Like, let's go. So I'm. I'm like, you're pumped. You're three seconds to go. All I'm saying is if he catches and shoots a three or they foul him, like, I'm going to kill somebody.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got to tell you, that was a sick play to end the game, though.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, I give it up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bridges ending the game by ripping the ball out of that incredible.

[Alan Hahn]

Think about he only had eight points, three or 13 shooting. So, right. You look at that right away and you're like, oh, my God, this guy. Right? But he had, what, seven rebounds, six assists or eight rebounds, seven assists, three steals, two blocks. In 52 minutes, you're going to tell me this guy didn't have a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He was unbelievable last night. Like I said in our group chat yesterday, screw the draft picks. He got you a win last week, and those are critical moments. Yeah, But I got to say, it's a. It's a weird. I guess they were maybe looking Tatum first. It's a weird look for the final shot anyway, to throw it across the court. Across the court where Brown, if he gets it, is going to be stepping backwards. Like, from 29ft.

[Alan Hahn]

All they had.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I guess that's all they had.

[Don LaGreca]

They were trying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tatum.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Tatum didn't even really make.

[Alan Hahn]

So you think that's bad? Should we take that down? Do I look bad? No. Does that make me look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it makes you look human.

[Don LaGreca]

And I honestly think that the reason that Alan was up pumping his fist was because he's like, we just doubled our audience. Because watching a post game after a loss is tough.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that is so true.

[Don LaGreca]

People are probably running to watch that post game after that game.

[Alan Hahn]

Trust me, you feel it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right?

[Alan Hahn]

Who's. Again? I want everybody to turn on MSG after every playoff game, Right. No matter what, win or lose, because we do a great job. We break it down, all that stuff. But when you lose games, there are times where you're just like, I don't want to hear about it. Like, it's true.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I go both ways.

[Alan Hahn]

A huge fan of Jack Curry. I love the yes Network and what they do with Yankee games. There are times after a Yankee loss, I'm like, I'm all set. I'm out. Like, I can't.

[Don LaGreca]

It's tough. I mean, some people just like to just revel in their pain.

[Alan Hahn]

The masochist and why.

[Don LaGreca]

But no, I. I need to hear Boone explain it.

[Alan Hahn]

Even though you know exactly what he's gonna do.

[Don LaGreca]

I don't wait to rush to watch any post game after a big win. Oh yeah, you know, or radio, whatever they would offer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Sometimes. Sometimes like depending on the pain of a loss. But this is more football. Again, because football's weekly. It's different that you kind of want to break elimination.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm watching. If they get eliminated. Oh yeah, then you get that post mortem. But like for a game, clearly the.

[Alan Hahn]

Audience is and I need to see Willie Colon and Bart Scott just shred the jets after a lot. There's nothing better than that. Just watching Steve Gelb sit back and let these two just have at it. There's nothing more.

[Don LaGreca]

He's very good at letting them do that. They've got lots to say.

[Spike Lee]

Out here, there's no one way of.

[Don LaGreca]

Doing things, no unwritten rules, and no shortage of adventure. Because out here the only requirement is having fun.

[Spike Lee]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Alan Hahn]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Alan Hahn]

Up to take another one. Porsche Zingis listed as probable. So the illness that took him out of the second half, I guess, has it under control and should be available for Game two.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Probable still can be. It could be better than probable.

[Don LaGreca]

Does any of the teams that won Game one, do you think any of them take Game two?

[Alan Hahn]

I think Indiana could with. If those injuries hold with the Cavs, that's three starters they have. The Pacers, by the way, have played great basketball down the stretch, but the Pacers have an offense they can score on you just constantly. You have to have enough pieces to maintain that.

[Don LaGreca]

And this is rarefied air for Cleveland, right? Being the best team in the conference, they're not used to. That's a little different.

[Alan Hahn]

Garland's got a toe injury that they don't even know if he's going to play in the series.

[Don LaGreca]

Do you think any of the other three take Game two?

[Alan Hahn]

No, I think Oklahoma City wins for sure.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. Yeah, that's the one.

[Alan Hahn]

I'm pretty again tonight. Tonight, Minnesota. Golden State's going to be real. I think Minnesota is going to win this series like that. That Timberwolves team, they're real good. Like the Pacers, they played really well. They weren't good at the start, but they were very good down the stretch. And so that's. That's a series like everybody. Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, everybody wants to get so much into them. They're small. I don't think that's a series that goes that long. I think Minnesota is going to make quick work of them.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's go to Rich in Rockville Center. You're on espn. New York. What's up, Rich?

[Caller]

All right, boys. So I have two points.

[Spike Lee]

I'll do the second point at the end because gonna fire everyone up but the first one.

[Caller]

Let's taco about a Tuesday.

[Spike Lee]

So let's taco about it.

[Caller]

Me and my girlfriend fight all the time. Crunchy tacos or soft tacos? I'm a crunchy taco guy, but she.

[Spike Lee]

Likes the soft tacos. And I feel like soft tacos are just baby burritos.

[Alan Hahn]

They are really.

[Spike Lee]

Guys deliberate that.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what? I'm good. Let's go to spike in St. Pete. You're on ESPN.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like that you completely throw it out.

[Don LaGreca]

I had to because we were either being trolled or I was going to die of boredom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it is a good question.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a good debate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The question is a good. You don't have a thought on it, though. When you do Taco Tuesday at home? Which one do you.

[Alan Hahn]

I do crunchy. The girls do the soft taco.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I like crunchy.

[Alan Hahn]

I prefer crunchy is all about it. You know what Gracie does? Hang on, I just. She does the crunchy, then gets the soft taco with the cheese inside. It wraps and wraps well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, Taco Bell does that, except they do it with the beans in the middle. That's the Double Decker.

[Don LaGreca]

I never wanted to hear from you anymore. You're on ESPN New York.

[Caller]

All right, enough with the food. So last night was great. I stayed with you the whole time on the post game. Allen. I got a funny Spike Lee story to tell you. Bill Lee, his father was a jazz musician up at Birdland, and I used to go up there and frequent it. And in 2004 or 5, Alan will know better because Lee Nalon was on the Knicks that one year before he went to Israel. And Stephen A. Smith had just come over from, I believe, the newspaper and to work for ESPN outside the 7th Avenue entrance, Spike Lee was there with his son Jackson, who I guess in 2005 was, I don't know, age 7 or 8. And Stephen A. Was there. And I'm talking to somebody, and Spike Lee, here's my voice. He says, you're the other Spike. I hear your voice. Where you live? I said, five blocks from where you live in Brooklyn. He was in Fort Greene. I was at Crown Heights on the edges. And we got to talk. And. And then one day, Alan Hans, hosting a Saturday afternoon show. You probably don't remember this, Alan. And. And you. You. The call comes in, I'm talking to you, and you go, well, let's get the real Spike on. And then Spike, we go, oh, no, no, no. You talk to him. He knows his stuff. I felt so good, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. The other. We said the other Spike, right?

[Spike Lee]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Yeah. If I was in New Jersey then. But that whole story was true with. With. He's good guy. Listen. He saw his films that when Danny Aiello was in do the Right Thing, Danny, you know, was Michael's office, I believe. Yeah. So I was friendly with Jay Black from Jay and the Americans. And Danny Aiello loved a song that one of his guitar players did. Instead of Daddy's Little Girl, Danny's daughter was getting married. I'm sure Michael was at the affair. So it got convoluted where I helped him get the lyrics to the song. And Danny was a great actor. I mean, great actor. And he could sing. He loves to sing. So so all that diatribe. Let me tell you Alan, that post game last night was so good and then I TVs on all night and I come in the morning, I flip it over. I don't know how you do it but you're wearing this powder blue stuff and and you look great and who made the remark? Someone made a face. It was some remark. Oh perfect. Perks talked about having a big rear end or something.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he said bridges was light in the ass. That's what he said. Will you lose them? Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

Enn's next on ESPN New York and ESPN New York app, I guess.

[Alan Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, but I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers.