Hour 3: Super Bowl & Brady's Watch

Summary

Podcast Summary: Don, Hahn & Rosenberg – Hour 3: Super Bowl & Brady's Watch

Hosts: Don LaGreca, Alan Hahn, Peter Rosenberg
Release Date: February 10, 2025
Duration: Approximately 46 minutes
Platform: ESPN New York, Podcast App

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1. Eagles' Dominant Super Bowl Victory & MVP Debate

Timestamp: [00:34] - [04:26]

The episode kicks off with a passionate discussion about the Philadelphia Eagles' commanding Super Bowl triumph over the Kansas City Chiefs, concluding with a score of 40-22. Don LaGreca emphasizes the sheer dominance of the Eagles’ performance:

• Don LaGreca ([00:36]): “The Eagles win their second championship. Now they have two Super Bowls. A bit 40 to 22 is not even close to really what that game was. That was a true dominant performance.”

Alan Hahn brings up the contentious topic of the MVP award, suggesting that defensive standout Josh Sweat deserved the honor over the quarterback Jalen Hurts, despite Hurts' impressive statistics.

• Alan Hahn ([00:36]): “I just Josh Sweat should have won MVP. His numbers look good at 1722.”

Peter Rosenberg, however, defends Hurts, arguing that his pivotal plays were crucial in securing the victory.

• Peter Rosenberg ([02:07]): “I think Jalen Hurts did enough to be the rightful MVP.”

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2. NFC East's Historical Dominance in Sports

Timestamp: [04:26] - [10:03]

Alan Hahn passionately advocates for the NFC East as the greatest division in sports history, highlighting the success of its teams:

• Alan Hahn ([04:27]): “…the greatest division in the history of sport, the greatest division in the history of sports is the NFC East. And this does add to my argument for that because now the Eagles have two Super Bowls and the Giants have four Super Bowls and the Commanders have three Super Bowls and what are the Cowboys up to? 5.”

Don LaGreca counters by comparing it to the American League East in baseball, noting the Yankees’ dominance and lack of parity.

• Don LaGreca ([03:46]): “There's no super about the American League East. The Yankees have all those World Series, the Red Sox have a couple and then the other one and then that's it.”

The conversation delves into comparisons with other divisions and sports, reinforcing the NFC East’s unparalleled success.

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3. Chiefs' Super Bowl Performance Critique

Timestamp: [08:19] - [10:03]

The hosts analyze the Kansas City Chiefs' shortcomings in the Super Bowl, focusing on their defensive lapses and strategic errors that hampered quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

• Don LaGreca ([08:19]): “He should have known he was going to be there. He didn't see him and that's on him.”

Alan Hahn discusses how the Chiefs' inability to pressure Mahomes without compromising their pass coverage led to critical mistakes and turnovers.

• Alan Hahn ([12:05]): “If you can get pressure without having to blitz... you're winning pretty much every game you play.”

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4. Saquon Barkley’s Departure & Giants' Management Issues

Timestamp: [32:46] - [37:03]

Post-advertisements, the focus shifts to Saquon Barkley's move from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles. The hosts dissect the implications of this transfer, critiquing the Giants' management and celebrating the Eagles' strategic acquisitions.

• Alan Hahn ([04:26]): “…they have a general manager that knows what he's doing and has put together a team that right now looks incredible.”

Don LaGreca draws parallels with other sports trades, highlighting the emotional toll on fans when a beloved player departs.

• Don LaGreca ([13:22]): “It's a rare thing… it's generally a divorce. This certainly didn't feel like that.”

The discussion underscores the importance of effective management and strategic decision-making in building a championship-worthy team.

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5. Fan Reactions & Social Media Dynamics

Timestamp: [37:03] - [43:57]

Listeners call in to express their frustrations and opinions on the Giants' handling of key players and management decisions. The hosts engage with these perspectives, offering their insights and further critiquing the organization's strategies.

• Caller ([42:12]): “I have no problem watching him win on the side, I didn't have a problem with that.”

Don LaGreca emphasizes the need to focus on systemic issues rather than individual player movements.

• Don LaGreca ([43:17]): “They let Saquon go because of the situation they were already in. And that's what you should be upset about.”

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6. Tom Brady's Public Image & Criticism

Timestamp: [28:25] - [32:46]

A heated segment discusses the public's backlash against Tom Brady's flamboyant watch, juxtaposing his on-field performance with off-field perceptions.

• Don LaGreca ([28:25]): “But I didn't think he looked bad, I didn't think he sounded bad. I thought he was fine.”

Peter Rosenberg defends Brady against the excessive criticism, arguing that the negative sentiments have gone too far.

• Peter Rosenberg ([29:15]): “We've now the pendulum has gone too far the other way… he's fine.”

The conversation highlights the challenges athletes face in managing their personal brands amidst public scrutiny.

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7. Callers’ Perspectives on Team Dynamics & Coaching

Timestamp: [43:57] - [46:15]

Listeners share their views on team management, focusing on the Jets' offensive line issues and the overall performance of players and coaches. The hosts dissect these critiques, offering nuanced takes on leadership and team cohesion.

• Alan Hahn ([43:15]): “And why? I believe, because I watched Hard Knocks, that Shane didn't believe Philadelphia was interested and he got hoodwinked there.”

Don LaGreca underscores the importance of transparent and proactive management in retaining talent.

• Don LaGreca ([43:57]): “They could have traded him… they got nothing for him.”

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8. NBA News & Ownership Changes

Timestamp: [40:11] - [44:38]

Briefly touching on NBA developments, the hosts discuss the recent arbitration ruling favoring Mark Lore and Alex Rodriguez in the takeover of the Minnesota Timberwolves.

• Don LaGreca ([40:35]): “…Alex Rodriguez over Glenn Taylor as the next majority ownership group of the Minnesota Timberwolves.”

Alan Hahn and Peter Rosenberg commend the new ownership's potential impact on the team's future success, citing star player Anthony Edwards' promising career.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Don LaGreca ([00:36]): “The Eagles win their second championship. Now they have two Super Bowls. A bit 40 to 22 is not even close to really what that game was. That was a true dominant performance.”
• Alan Hahn ([04:27]): “…the greatest division in the history of sport, the greatest division in the history of sports is the NFC East.”
• Peter Rosenberg ([02:07]): “I think Jalen Hurts did enough to be the rightful MVP.”
• Don LaGreca ([13:22]): “It's a rare thing… it's generally a divorce. This certainly didn't feel like that.”
• Peter Rosenberg ([29:15]): “We've now the pendulum has gone too far the other way… he's fine.”
• Alan Hahn ([43:15]): “And why? I believe, because I watched Hard Knocks, that Shane didn't believe Philadelphia was interested and he got hoodwinked there.”

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Conclusion

In this engaging episode, Don, Hahn, and Rosenberg provide a comprehensive analysis of the Super Bowl, delving into the Philadelphia Eagles' strategies, the historical dominance of the NFC East, and the significant impact of player movements like Saquon Barkley's transfer. Their candid discussions on management decisions, player performances, and public perceptions offer listeners a deep dive into the intricacies of professional sports. Balancing expert opinions with passionate debates, the hosts ensure that both avid and casual sports fans find valuable insights throughout the conversation.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisement segments and non-content sections, focusing solely on the substantive discussions to provide a coherent and informative overview for those who haven’t listened to the episode.

Transcript

[Alan Hahn]

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[Don LaGreca]

This is the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Alan Hahn]

That sounds like heaven to me.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen live weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app and your smart speakers. All right into the big 5 o'clock hour we go with Don Lagreca and Peter Rosenberg. I'm Alan Hahn. 800 hour. 93776 is the number for your calls. So the Eagles win their second championship. Now they have two Super Bowls. A bit 40 to 22 is not even close to really what that game was. That was a true dominant performance. And here's one thing guys, I just Josh Sweat should have won mvp. I know Hertz has two passing touchdowns. He had the unbelievable throw to Smith. He had the tush push. His numbers look good at 1722. I understand it. But when they tell the story of this super bowl will be less about wow. Jalen Hurts was unstoppable versus one of the greats ever. Patrick Mahomes had the worst game of his career and he did so because that Eagles defense.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But here's why.

[Don LaGreca]

He's all day long. Six tackles, four quarterback pressures, the most on his team. Two and a half sacks and three quarterback hits. Come on man. That is not enough the dominance.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it's not to me. If you could give it to the entire defense I'd agree with you. But since you have to pick one player as good as he was, was he better?

[Don LaGreca]

Shouldn't the defense have gotten the cred so you you get the best player on defense and give him the mvp and the whole defense shares it because this tell me I'm wrong that this game wasn't about the Eagles defense more than it was anything else.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think that's the biggest story of the game. But I don't think any one player did enough to be better than what Jalen Hurts performance was. I really bless you. He the fact of the matter is when it was time to break that game open perfect 50 yard dime to end it like he he picked his spots Don and was really good.

[Don LaGreca]

I I can't argue I saying that I. I hear you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It was a defensive game but I think Don Jalen hurts did enough to be the rightful mvp.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, because you just can't give it to the entire defense. I wish you could. Same could be argued about the Giants first Super bowl because of how good you Minor and Tuck were. You know the quarterback is going to have an unfair advantage in this and they always skew more offense. Defensive players have gotten it but it's going to take a couple of pick sixes like we saw in that cowboy Steelers Super Bowl 30 years ago. So I don't have a problem with it. The fact that I predicted it probably is why I don't have any kind of a problem with it. But this guy. You know what I was thinking about the other day, Peter, or not the other day last night is we've been talking about how I believe the greatest defense in the history of sport, the greatest division in the history of sports is the NFC East. And this does add to my argument for that because now The Eagles have two Super Bowls and the Giants have four Super Bowls and the Commanders have three Super Bowls and what are the Cowboys up to? 5. There's not another division that matches that. I think in any sport where you can look at those four teams. And the Giants are God awful right now, but they all represent. Well, like every division always has that one outlier. Right. Like the north is great. Ravens, Super Bowls, Steelers, Super Bowls, Bengals have been to a bunch of Super Bowls. And then you have the Browns. Right, Right.

[Don LaGreca]

There's no super about the American League East. The Yankees have all those World Series, the Red Sox have a couple and then the other one and then that's it.

[Alan Hahn]

But the Yankees open, right? Yes, but there's a couple. And the one that I will say that when we talked about is the AFC west with the Raiders championships and the Broncos championships. Now the Chiefs and now the Chiefs championships. But then you have the Chargers who have gone to a couple of Super Bowls but haven't won. But you know, getting back to how could you root for the Eagles? I have no love for the Eagles and I did not root for the Eagles yesterday. But there was a part of me that enjoyed seeing the Chiefs go down the way that they did. And anything right now to summarize my rant from the 3 o'clock hour and go back to the podcast if you want to relive it.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh no, no. Everybody. Don just said that really low.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's.

[Don LaGreca]

You want to go back to the podcast, 3:00 hour, first segment. You don't want to miss that rant from.

[Alan Hahn]

I appreciate that. Is just that, you know, hate all you want on. You can't root for the division teams. And I hate the Philadelphia Eagles, which I do. And I did not root for them to win the game. Although I did enjoy Kansas City getting beat up. Is that right now? Anything that embarrasses the Giants I'm for because maybe that will wake them up. Because it's not about, oh, you won a few games here and that's why you don't have Jaden Daniels or you did this or that because you lost Saquon Barkley. It's that you just don't have the management in place to be great. And that's why great organizations don't tank. Philadelphia didn't tank to get where they are. They didn't get Jalen Hurts in the first round. They didn't tank to get all those great defensive players. They have a. They have a general manager that knows what he's doing and has put together a team that right now looks incredible. And they were in a place to be able to take on Saquon Barkley and maybe pay a little more than they should because they knew they were close. San Francisco did the same thing, but it didn't work out. But it worked out for the Philadelphia. The Giants weren't in that place. So get mad at where the Giants were when that decision had to be made. Not the fact that they let Saquon go because they could have kept Saquon Barkley. This wasn't going to happen. They could have tanked last year and got Jaden Daniels. This wouldn't have happened. What happened to the Commanders wouldn't have happened because right now I don't see the management that Washington and Philadelphia have. That's what you should be mad about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's. It's a great point. Don also was right that the Eagles, that the Chiefs could be had. You know, we spent a lot of time talking about how great this Chiefs team was over the last couple of weeks. And then, Don, you go back and relook at the year they had and it's like maybe they weren't exactly what everyone said, but to the Eagles of it all, am I now allowed to.

[Alan Hahn]

Say.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Were the Commanders the second best team in the NFL? Could we at least played with the Eagles? We showed up and played a football game. The Chiefs didn't even show up. Play a football game.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, I don't, I don't necessarily think that the result would have been the same had the Commanders played yesterday?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know because I don't.

[Alan Hahn]

Know if you have the defense.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And maybe Spags would have done better with the Kingsbury offense than he did.

[Alan Hahn]

But if you were to rank this, if this was college football back in the day and you were ranking the teams at the end of the season and not just lazily saying who went the farthest, I don't think I'd have a problem with saying the Commanders are two.

[Don LaGreca]

The Commanders are somewhere up there. Yes, because they had an epic finish this season. But we also have to include two weeks of conversations. And I do believe in motivation. I know it's an intangible, but even the players, the Eagles players, especially on the defensive side, we're talking about the fact. The same thing you guys were talking about it. They were sick of hearing about this dynasty and the three peat and all that stuff. They did not blitz four guys. That's it took on an offensive line that was banged up and they dominated physically. Like, think about the ferocity they played with that set the tone at the start of that game was something we haven't seen since, I guess the Seahawks and what they did to Peyton Manning in that super bowl with the Broncos.

[Alan Hahn]

And what the Buccaneers did to the.

[Don LaGreca]

What the Bucks did to Mahomes, he probably used that. I'm sure Vic Fangio probably used a lot of that as a foundation. But the players themselves talked about how that was a bit of a motivating factor, that they were tired of the talk, they didn't want to hear about it anymore, and it had them fired up. I don't know if they had that same feeling when they were playing the Commanders in the championship game. Yeah, they were just trying to win a game. This was two weeks of enough already and they couldn't wait. They were ripping the door off the hinges to get out there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Pardon my ignorance, by the way. I mean, we covered the super bowl last week, but in this market, I'll be honest, we were kind of overwhelmed by the NBA more than this. Were the Chiefs expected to have this level of struggles in the offensive line?

[Don LaGreca]

No. Well, yes, they had. They were banged up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They were banged up. But like, people knew that they literally wouldn't be able to stop anyone.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, remember we had Sal Palantonio on him. That's when I said to him about getting at Mahomes feet as something to watch. And Sal said, yes, absolutely. That's something that they're going to try to do is more in the middle. Because while Mahomes is good at running, even though he looks funny when he does it, when you mess with his feet, just like Tom Brady. Same thing when you mess with Tom Brady's feet. What the Giants did to Tom Brady is the very same thing of what they wanted to do to Mahomes. And Sal said that was something that if you're the Chiefs, you have to be worried about.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But nowhere's my question. Do you look back at all at games like a five point win against the Falcons?

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not going to revise the touchdown.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A touchdown win against the Raiders, you can't revise the. They squeaked by the Broncos. They squeaked by the Panthers. Don, they squeaked by the Panthers.

[Don LaGreca]

You can't revise the season. They still got.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a Super Bowl.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But it proves Don's point that they could be had.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen to me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

These were fluky wins. They should have been 10 and 7.

[Don LaGreca]

You think a a fluky win against a Buffalo Bills team that looked like a team of destiny that was finally going to break through, they still couldn't do it?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No. That well.

[Don LaGreca]

Come on. They still got some wins. The AFC was stronger than the NFC this season.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That is a real good catch. That game is one catch away from the game. But again, flukey doesn't matter.

[Alan Hahn]

Michael brought this up earlier. Whether it's fluke or whether it's just knowing how to win, I think it's part of the conversation. They're a very good team and if they get any breaks, they're going to take advantage of it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Alan Hahn]

But I think the one narrative that was put to bed is getting all the calls because outside of that first offensive pass interference, which I thought was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

A brutal call, I thought was the right call, though.

[Don LaGreca]

You hit him in the face.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, but they're not making that call. But it didn't matter. They didn't get any calls. Matter of fact, the Eagles look like they got the call. So I don't know whether that was the motivation of hey, let's reverse that narrative or whatever it is. But then they had a couple tough defensive holds.

[Don LaGreca]

Give the Chiefs killers.

[Alan Hahn]

Because this is what happens when teams don't get blown out. They hang around, they know how to win. They're going to get the calls and they're going to take advantage of them. But now they got punched in the face. And that old Mike Tyson line, everybody's got a plan till they get hit in the face or hit in the jaw, whatever the Line is they got smacked in the face and they didn't have an answer because I ended up being right but way late is that I thought they could be had it just it was the right team to take care of it and the Bills just didn't have the defense to do it. But real quick, how do I hope you did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Everything you just said is so on point and true. But here's the part that Mahomes has to eat. In spite of the bad offensive line play. That's not his fault. The pick at the end of the half. Was that an offensive line?

[Don LaGreca]

He got hit. But like you're talking about the pick six.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, the pick inside their own ten because the picks.

[Alan Hahn]

That's the one he got hit was inside the 10 and that was also.

[Don LaGreca]

A great pick six.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Great play.

[Don LaGreca]

He didn't see him and that's on him. He should have known that was zone coverage. He should have known he was going to be there. He didn't. The other one you're talking about though, he got hit. That wasn't where he was intending to throw the ball. He was under duress throwing that ball.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it odd play calling at that stage it just seemed like such a.

[Alan Hahn]

Alan, you said it. If you. If you can get pressure without blitzing because you can get pressure on.

[Don LaGreca]

Hey did.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he didn't.

[Don LaGreca]

What are you talking about?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm rewatching the throw.

[Don LaGreca]

Which one are you. Let's say again. What are you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he doesn't. He doesn't get.

[Alan Hahn]

He's taking a look at which one. There's a little bit of pressure inside the 10.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This is the one inside the 10.

[Alan Hahn]

The offensive lineman is pushed into him.

[Don LaGreca]

Listen, one guy hits him in the hip as he's throwing the ball.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, he definitely had something.

[Don LaGreca]

That's his own guy pushed into him as he's throwing the ball. The hip turns his whole body and now he's way off on his.

[Alan Hahn]

Nine times out of ten the defender probably.

[Don LaGreca]

Did that look like a Mahomes thrown ball. That was a terrible throw.

[Alan Hahn]

But Allen hit the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I hear. Listen, when you said he got hit, I didn't picture that. And he still threw the ball over the middle of the field inside your.

[Alan Hahn]

Own 50 yard line. Irresponsible. But the point is is that when you're able to get pressure without having to blitz, this is what happens.

[Don LaGreca]

Yep.

[Alan Hahn]

Because if you can get pressure. If I blitz well then Mahomes knows where the hot receiver is. Take advantage of it. Eat you alive. If I can just send four and get that kind of pressure, you're winning pretty much every game you play, Right? And no matter what quarterback we saw happen to Tom Brady, we saw it now happen to Mahomes twice. Is that what. And you did see, sometimes he was able to scramble, buy more time. But when you have that many bodies that think about it, that means you have seven guys in coverage with only four putting pressure. And within two seconds, not going to be anybody open.

[Don LaGreca]

And within two seconds, he had to have a decision run or throw because he had no time because they were closing in around him.

[Alan Hahn]

And if he throws, you're going to get guys that are just aren't going to be open, and that's going to lead to.

[Don LaGreca]

And then there's the Hopkins drop, which should have been a catch that was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was bad.

[Don LaGreca]

That was probably six. Kelsey had a drop that they never has. Like, they were also, like, uncharacteristic things that happened early on in that game. But what happened after the game, everybody is what Don referenced. If you're a Giants fan, I don't know if you look away or you just look with apathy, but Saquon Barkley is now a Super bowl champion. He talked about getting to hold the Lombardi Trophy.

[Alan Hahn]

She looked pretty in person, I tell.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You that, you know, you think about it, it's better.

[Alan Hahn]

It's better in person than it is in Madden, I'll tell you that. Playing as a kid. But it's everything you dream of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm just happy to be able to.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, hold it, give it a.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Kiss, and, you know, be world champs.

[Don LaGreca]

It's a rare thing, right, when a player leaves the market and you almost are left to be happy for him. Because a lot of times when a player leaves a market, he leaves because he takes the money to go somewhere else or he doesn't want to be here anymore. Like, it's always. It's. It's generally a divorce. This. This certainly didn't feel like that. This felt like, you know, again, what John Maris said, if he ends up with the Eagles, I can't. Won't be able to sleep. But the nightmare started with him showing up in Philadelphia, and then it ended with him holding up the Lombardi. And I'm not sure. Again, I don't know how I would feel about this if, like, the. I can't even think of an example. The closest thing I can come with is if Garrett Wilson ends up somewhere else and wins the super bowl next year. I won't know how to feel either. I'll feel the Same way like, well, the jets failed him. Good for him. He went somewhere and won. That's the best I could do.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, they're really. But it's not close because these are usually cap sport type of decisions, especially in football because the cap is so unforgiving. There's a lot more forgiving. In the NBA there would have been more money to give him because he was your draft pick.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

You know, in the NHL there's a little bit more flexibility with the cap. It continues to go up each year, although I think it's a lot closer to the NFL. But the NFL is such a hard cap and there's so many players you've got to deal with that you make those types of decisions. It's unfortunate, but you do. And that's why I really felt like the Pete Alonso was a parallel. The Mets were able to give a little more than they wanted to because they didn't have the same restrictions. If the Mets had the same restrictions cap wise, if there was a cap, then maybe they would have been able to just be cold hearted and say, all right, he's gone. But they had that little bit more flexibility that you just don't have in football. And usually when you let a guy go, I don't have it in front of me. But just knowing in my mind's eye, thinking of football, it usually it's the right decision. Yeah, you know, you don't really see free agents. You saw with Randy Moss in New England. There's a few occasions where the free agent really turns you around. Most of the time it ended up being the right decision by the organization. This was, I think, the right decision where the Giants were. But the fact that the Giants were that bad and never could take advantage of his talent other than that one year in 22 where they won nine games and still got blown out by, you know, of all teams, Philadelphia is.

[Don LaGreca]

Sorry to cut you off, but I'm thinking of it. Is this what it would feel like a Detroit Lions fan watching Matthew Stafford win a Super bowl with the Rams?

[Alan Hahn]

Yes. Gets traded, that's probably the comp.

[Don LaGreca]

And they win right away.

[Alan Hahn]

That's probably the comp.

[Don LaGreca]

And that's got to be almost like you. Part of you feels good for a guy that you rooted for and were happy for, but the other part of you is discussing with the fact that he couldn't do it for your franchise because your franchise is a mess.

[Alan Hahn]

It's a great comp. It's probably worse for Lions fans because you had for a long time For a lot longer.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Alan Hahn]

Now you did get Goff and you did turn around with Goff eventually. You had a one win season with them. But then, you know, you were on the cusp of a Super bowl just quick, right? So maybe that makes it a little easier. And the Giants have just been God awful, but yeah, that's probably the best comp. Good job, Al.

[Don LaGreca]

Vinnie and Staten Island. Vinnie.

[Caller]

What's up, guys? How you doing?

[Don LaGreca]

Good.

[Caller]

I want to make one point on the jets, one point on the point on the Giants. First Shane and Dable. You still got time to get rid of them. Get rid of these guys. They're going into the season as lame ducks. There's no way you could turn this around. It's done. It's like being married and your husband or wife is cheating on you 30 times. It's not gonna work with these two guys. They had a chance. That they did with Daniel. Jones was disgraced. But they did with Barkley was a disgrace. You could have had Jones, Barkley and neighbors. You could have a nice three there. They never realized you got to build an offensive line before you do anything. Philadelphia shows that. Sorry. Look what Philadelphia did with Mackay Beckton.

[Don LaGreca]

They threw the guard. Yeah.

[Caller]

An all pro guard. Why couldn't the jets figure that out? And the thing with the jets, there's only two quarterbacks you could go after right now. Donald ain't coming back. Daniel Jones ain't coming there. It's either Justin Fields or Kyle Tras to Tampa. Those are the only two guys. Tyrod Taylor is a human bandage. He's 37 years old. He's not young, Don. He wasn't pretty old. He started. He'll be 37 years old next year. He's old and.

[Alan Hahn]

But there's only. You're only talking one year. I mean, it's not like he's got a lot of mileage on him. He's been a backup quarterback for most of his career.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, well, it's. He does get hurt, like in the craziest ways. And then he just loves Kyle.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's 35.

[Alan Hahn]

And the thing that frustrates me about 35 is not old for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

For a backup quarterback. You could have three more years. Cousins around the same.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, so I'm not.

[Don LaGreca]

I do. It's. I'm not putting a lot of energy into this conversation because of what it's about. It's. It's a bridge. Like, I'm not going to get caught up in. He's 34. He'll be 35. Who cares it's a year. Who cares? And if he gets hurt, who cares?

[Alan Hahn]

It doesn't, it doesn't matter.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Whatever.

[Alan Hahn]

You're not all in on this year the way you would be if Aaron Rodgers.

[Don LaGreca]

You're not giving him a five year contract. You just, you need somebody to play the position that isn't going to, you know, isn't going to be overwhelmed by it.

[Alan Hahn]

But what I take exception to the caller is that need to recognize and fix the offensive line. That's the scary thing. They have, they signed two free agents. They have drafted offensive lineman high. Where do you think Evan Neil was drafted? Yeah, you know, so they have addressed. It's an issue and, but they haven't done a good job.

[Don LaGreca]

Not great.

[Alan Hahn]

If, if they ignored it, then you'd have a kick comment.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Are you saying they said they drafted them high or they drafted them?

[Alan Hahn]

I believe that it was both because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They may have been off that for some of these.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, here's the thing.

[Don LaGreca]

We get.

[Alan Hahn]

I'll say a lot of that. Listen, I think, I honestly think Shane's a good guy. Gave myself and Peter time during camp. He does not like, look like he partakes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You didn't get, you didn't get that?

[Alan Hahn]

I didn't get a sense.

[Don LaGreca]

He ever got feeling that? No, no.

[Alan Hahn]

Maybe he should maybe take some acid maybe, you know, expand your mind a little lsd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Then you can start to see things right, man.

[Alan Hahn]

Trip a little bit. Maybe, maybe, maybe trip into a good draft pick.

[Don LaGreca]

Kevin in New York. What's up, Kevin?

[Caller]

Hey, you guys are killing me over here. You're right. Shane is too much of a square to be doing it in the app, as Mike would say. But real quick, you, you, Han was saying that he didn't know too much of about a comparison of, you know, Saquon leaving the market and then going.

[Alan Hahn]

Over to Philly and winning a championship.

[Caller]

But how would you guys, if the same thing happened with Juan Soto leaving.

[Alan Hahn]

The Yankees and then the Mets make the World Series and he's holding up.

[Caller]

The trophy at the end of that season.

[Don LaGreca]

I can answer this as a Yankees fan, Kevin. I, I would. Juan Soto was a mercenary. This is not like Saquon was a draft pick that you brought into the organization as a young player and he had years with you. Like Juan Soto was here for a minute, like in the history of the Yankees. He's here for a minute. Danny Tardable was here longer. Like, think about it. Like he was not here long enough for it to really resonate. Like, ah. Like it's not like if Jorge Posado went to the Mets or something like that. Like that's like give me somebody that Andy Pettit became a Met and won a World Series.

[Alan Hahn]

Well, here's that would kill you. Lonnie just tweeted. How did you feel when Revis won the super bowl with the Patriots?

[Don LaGreca]

I was disgusted. I was where you were. I was disgusted with him because of how everything became about money with him. It was never comfortable relationship. He always was looking for the next content.

[Alan Hahn]

He didn't go to New England. He eventually ended up.

[Don LaGreca]

Exactly.

[Alan Hahn]

It was not apples and apples, but it's close.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. Going straight to the rival and then winning immediately. That's one thing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It did feel gross, that one. It felt a little gross.

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[Don LaGreca]

Listening to the Don Han and Rosenberg podcast.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don LaGreca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. Don, you know anything about this?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Odon, remember?

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, this is ll, right? No, no, Cool J.

[Don LaGreca]

This is digable. We just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Unfortunately.

[Alan Hahn]

Why do I know who that is? Because he said I'm cool like that, and that's who it is. I always thought that was LL Cool J. I didn't know. I'm being honest.

[Don LaGreca]

That's fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Be honest. No, no, wait. I think you will. I think you would notice.

[Alan Hahn]

I know the song. We went through this one time, and I accidentally thought it was.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, you're right. And so you thought it again.

[Don LaGreca]

There's something to. I don't know what it is. And it's just that era, the horns, the jazz, the beat, the bass lines.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like something like that makes you feel like that.

[Don LaGreca]

What is that? What was that? What was that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's described as Peter. Grunt.

[Don LaGreca]

Grunt. That's grunt. That's your grunt. Excuse me, Don? Yeah? Can you rate that grunt?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a specific grunt. What was the grunt for?

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, I don't think we need context for it.

[Alan Hahn]

I think we just need to leave.

[Don LaGreca]

It as it is.

[Alan Hahn]

Oh, well, context is important for me to be able to rate the grunt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's an old grunt.

[Don LaGreca]

I feel like a grunt needs that a little more.

[Alan Hahn]

If he's lifting a jug of milk is an issue.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know what that grunt came from. I don't know, but it was a grunt.

[Don LaGreca]

But, Don, a grunt for a grown man has to have a little.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't you want to know what it was for before you. Yeah, I think it's not great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think it might have been, like, almost a throat clearing more than a grunt.

[Don LaGreca]

Oh, that's different. That's different.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, they're not in my house. I wasn't lifting up cement blocks.

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, I don't know, just sounds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't like what you're doing. And by the way, why the hell did you make Me stand between you? While we're getting rid of grievances here, why the hell, when we're posting, posing for a picture, you have me stand between you and Wally?

[Don LaGreca]

Because.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What kind of rib is that?

[Don LaGreca]

Because if we put you on the outside, it's worse. It's. Yes, yes. You've got to be in the group within the picture. If you're on the outside of that, it looks weird.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don. Don. You think it's better off me being a foot shorter than these two? Begins in front of us 8 inches. No, in front is different.

[Don LaGreca]

Like the family put us.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He put us. Put me between them both.

[Alan Hahn]

I think it. I think it's the only way to go. I don't know why, but being at the end just doesn't seem to.

[Don LaGreca]

When you're shorter, it doesn't make sense.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes, that's your grunt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I really bought that. I just really.

[Alan Hahn]

That's. That's it. What happened there?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but, you know.

[Alan Hahn]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Wow. I really bought that. I just really. I think that's still a replay of the grunt. Yeah.

[Don LaGreca]

I liked it better when I didn't.

[Alan Hahn]

Know it was you clearing your throat.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Alan Hahn]

You.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When you thought it was me working really hard at something. I get it.

[Don LaGreca]

But, yeah, I like that drop anymore now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't like being deleted. I didn't like being between Alan and. It felt like.

[Don LaGreca]

Sorry.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It felt like what I should do is stand on the outside of you, but further in front of you to make myself taller. Maybe that's the key. But between you, it looks like.

[Don LaGreca]

Or we just get you a box.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Excuse me?

[Don LaGreca]

We'll just get you a box and you can stand on the box.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Got it? Sure. Well, that's not my problem.

[Don LaGreca]

No, no. I mean, like, to stand on, like, a step.

[Peter Rosenberg]

An apple. An apple cart. I got to tell you people in the comments. I looked at comments on our page. Never do that.

[Don LaGreca]

Don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got it. I just want to let the people who hate me know right now, you got to do better than. Look how short Peter is. It's not in my insecurity wheelhouse. I have things. The random height that we were given. Like, if you were to be like, oh, my God, look how out of shape Peter is next to Alan.

[Don LaGreca]

Right. Things you can control.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's like, oh, you know what? You're right. I could go to the gym and look better. I'm not working hard enough. Okay. You being like, look how short you are. It doesn't bother me. It's not a picture.

[Alan Hahn]

It's Stealing pay for the size of his head. It's lazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's just so. And also like, oh my God. So wait real quick. You think that I successful person at 5 8am gonna feel worse because you're a loser at 6 1, like the person saying this, I don't care.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, you don't know they're six'one and.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't even know that you're six'one.

[Don LaGreca]

They could be small also, which is worse.

[Alan Hahn]

That's self hate.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the worst hate.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes, but that's why you don't look at comments.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I know, but I thought they'd be positive from our events.

[Don LaGreca]

It's amazing how people like. Did you see the stuff about Tom Brady last night?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hmm?

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, was Tom Brady that bad? I thought it was fine.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The game was bad. Brady was fine.

[Don LaGreca]

They were ripping on him for his face, his expressions. They were talking about how he's had too much work. And then did you see the watch, by the way?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Don LaGreca]

$700,000 watch.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, good.

[Alan Hahn]

He makes $35 million.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, I'm just saying.

[Alan Hahn]

But he chose a Casio. But he chose making my own watch.

[Don LaGreca]

To wear that watch in this broadcast when everything else was black, gray, white shirt. And then there's this watch that is disco ball just jumping off his wrist.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, really?

[Don LaGreca]

And I thought that was a nice.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Little flex, by the way, as he should listen.

[Don LaGreca]

But I didn't think he looked bad, I didn't think he sounded bad. I thought he was fine. But the comments, they were killing him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We have spoken a lot on this radio station about Tom Brady being overpaid for that job and it's ridiculous. And Don and I are always in lockstep about why do you pay. Why do you pay a color commentator for football that much money when Baron Rocky could call the game and it would get the same thing. That being said, we've now the pendulum has gone too far the other way. The level of hate for Brady is too much. He's fine.

[Alan Hahn]

He's pretty good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is he worth 35 million? No, but are you going to tell me, like he can't hold a candle to Greg Olson. Calm down. He's pretty good.

[Alan Hahn]

Let's relax.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's going to be just fine.

[Don LaGreca]

By the way, don't you think his perspective in a Super bowl, right. As a guy that's won it a lot.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh my God.

[Don LaGreca]

It might be a little more valuable than Greg Olson. Well, this is.

[Alan Hahn]

This is what? This is what Fox been there. Fox paid for that. The guy that's on the field is being compared to the guy that's up in the booth.

[Don LaGreca]

Great point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by the way, last night when it was 24, nothing. All I'm sitting there thinking is, well, Brady was down 25 at halftime.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And this guy's down 24 at halftime. Let's have a conversation about it now. You want to talk about wasted money and you want to talk about overexposed. We'd spent a lot of time talking about the chiefs being overexposed. The amount of Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey.

[Don LaGreca]

Say it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Do we still need Gronk?

[Don LaGreca]

Not only.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hold on. Not only on the desk. Not only on the desk, but still in every commercial, like pain. Who is the exec going? This guy's good. There was a moment yesterday. My wife goes, Natalie goes, who is that? She goes, who is that guy?

[Don LaGreca]

She doesn't know Gronk.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't know who Gronk is?

[Alan Hahn]

Wow.

[Peter Rosenberg]

She was like, I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

That is a better person for it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I went. I went. I went. I went, that's. That's Gronk. She went, he looks like he needs to be hospitalized. I went, I don't even know what that means.

[Alan Hahn]

No, but it's good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And he was standing there. They did a random shot during halftime, and they were all standing up because they were preparing the.

[Don LaGreca]

Doesn't button the jacket. It drives me crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's standing up. He doesn't know what to do with his hands. He. Listen. He's a lovely man. I don't think Gronk's a bad guy. Why do we still need every patriot? Why we've been getting fed all of them for. So Rodney Harrison has been bad on TV for 20 years, and now we're gonna get 20 years of Gronk being bad.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know why you need as many people as you have there. It does seem ridiculous. By the way, if you made $80,000 a year, the comp would be paying $1,600 for a watch. So that is strong.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's a lot. If you make 80 grand and you cop a $1,600 watch, you're flossing.

[Alan Hahn]

But it's assuming he paid that watch.

[Don LaGreca]

Well, he also could be just as we know, costume jewelry. This does happen where you rent things, you know, people will wear jewelry and you don't really own it. Right. Like, there's no that world, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The highest level rich athlete world. Now their watch competition is a huge deal.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, that's. That's like the secret thing it's, it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It'S like it's trading cards that you wear for obscenely rich people. Which, by the way, makes me feel bad because I have a watch I'm very proud of that my wife gave me. It's an expensive, beautiful watch that my wife works, Worked very hard to earn money for and give me. And now when I wear it out, I love it, I'm proud of it. But I'm like, if I was in a circle with these people, they'd feel bad for me.

[Don LaGreca]

They'd look at you like, they'd be.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like, dude, put that. You're embarrassing yourself better than I paid.

[Alan Hahn]

Sorry for the pun. Face value for that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Who, Brady? Yeah, it totally depends. There's a world in which no or.

[Don LaGreca]

Yes, 50 million plus people are watching. They're seeing it on his wrist. It's clear. Like, you can't not see it, right? So.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I bet it works out. But he does. Like, like, like Brady is friends with the Jay Z's and he's friendly with all these people. There's a chance he wanted to just go out and buy it and just floss. That's what these guys. If you have that much money, what the hell else are you doing with your money?

[Don LaGreca]

Let's go to John at Tom's River. Hey, John.

[Caller]

Hey, how are you?

[Don LaGreca]

What's up?

[Caller]

Real quick. Just wanted to jump on the, on the Saquon point. So I, you know, I. For the last two weeks, I went back and forth about who I'm supposed to root for as a Giants fan in the super bowl, each team, whatever, I had issues with both sides. But the one thing about the Eagles was that, you know, I have no problem with Saquon. I have no beef with the guy. He did everything right here. He was our guy and they let him go. So, you know, I, I have no problem watching him win a ring. I was not rooting for the Eagles. I ended up with literally not rooting for anybody. But, you know, watching him win on the side, I didn't have a problem with that. And just real quick, one of the callers called an earlier and tried comparing it to the Juan Soto situation. I think that's literally the worst comparison I've ever heard. I mean, you're talking about one guy that's drafted and stayed here and did everything right. One guy was here for literally a year. One guy begged to stay here when it was at the end.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And the other guy, after the World Series, said, no one has any advantage or something like that. You know, the worst comparison I've ever heard.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. But. And it did go wrong in the relationship, but. Although worked out very well for Saquon, but he was offered a contract and turned it down. So. And I'm not saying he didn't have a right to do that, but in the end, when it came down to the 11th hour that we saw in Hard Knocks, he wanted to stay, but there was a contract refusal earlier that could have kept him a Giant if he wanted to. But again, I'm not mad at him. I'm not. But I think he said it. Well, the caller, I'm not rooting for him for the Eagles, but as it turned out, you could be happy for Saquon. I just think the Giants got to get back from the dead before we can start saying, I hate this team. I hate everybody.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, you can't. You can't have a rival if you suck. That's the biggest problem. Matt and Brewster. What's up, Matt?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. How you doing? I wanted the guy who just. I agree 100 with the last caller. And what about the guy who brought up Makai Becton? I'm a Jets fan. Well, where's the talk about the jets did want to move him to guard. He refused. He tweeted in all caps, I'm a left tackle. He was a bum. He was £400. Now he goes down to the Eagles.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it's like, thank God. I'm so happy I got away from the Jets.

[Caller]

Another guy who just, like, makes us look terrible. And he was the problem. That was not a bad pick.

[Don LaGreca]

If he showed up on time and.

[Caller]

Showed up at £320, not 400.

[Alan Hahn]

Right. But it's hard. It's hard for the jets to look like a winner in it because everybody will say, well, you know what? If you were better, he probably would have been more motivated to be ready. Now, that's still a bad job out of him. No question. But the jets, he's still going to look like the good guy because he got what he wanted. He got out of a bad organization, went to an organization that was able to get him to lose weight. He then shifted because these players will make sacrifices.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah. He knew he had no other option.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

When they told him, we're going to play you a guard or we're going to move on. You're going to go play a guard.

[Alan Hahn]

It's still. But you know what? I'm. You know what I'm saying, Matt? It still ends up making the jets look bad because they couldn't get the most out of them and Philadelphia could. Even though we know why Philadelphia could. Because they were winning and the jets were losing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. As usual, my life story.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah. It's not right. I'm not going to defend the player, but this is where. This is where you're at.

[Don LaGreca]

That is such a Jets fan. What he just did there.

[Alan Hahn]

But I feel bad.

[Don LaGreca]

I feel you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But also why. Yeah, why? Why wasn't Makai able to be that guy in New York?

[Alan Hahn]

Do you think he was always hurt?

[Don LaGreca]

No, he got. His knee was bad. His knee was bad in the game. He was having trouble with that knee in the game.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, but why did he seem more excited and motivated to get to a new place? You have to take some ownership from him, but you have to take some ownership of what was happening here. That made him feel even more motivated to prove himself when he got a new opportunity.

[Alan Hahn]

Because I think players are willing to make sacrif for winning teams and not losing teams. Like, what are you giving? All right. I'm going to sacrifice. I'm going to do everything to get on the field. What are you going to give me in return? A five win season, a four win season, a three win season.

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Alan Hahn]

You go to Philadelphia, the team was in the super bowl, you know, two years earlier. And now I got a chance.

[Don LaGreca]

I got winners all around me.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't think it's. I think you should. You bust your butt no matter where you are. But in a perfect world, by the.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way, that's a perfect world.

[Alan Hahn]

But that's not the reality. Right?

[Don LaGreca]

Right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. No. No one does that.

[Don LaGreca]

Trust me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I work at two different radio stations. One treats me one way and has a certain situation one way and guess what? I put in the effort.

[Don LaGreca]

Really? Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the one that we work at. I hope you feel that way. So I care about this place. The other place I care about. But there are certain things that they were to ask and go to make it. This is just.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What are you saying that. What are you making a face for?

[Alan Hahn]

I was. I'm just. I have an analogy. I'm not sure I want to make.

[Don LaGreca]

It, but I see you do it.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah, it does. Very Orlovsky of you.

[Don LaGreca]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You say it out loud about the other one.

[Alan Hahn]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They'll never know. They don't know what I do.

[Don LaGreca]

They pay so little attention to you.

[Alan Hahn]

So the tree falls in the forest.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Don. Don. I had a. I had a. I've been at the radio. I've been at the other radio station for. I said this on the air on my other stage.

[Don LaGreca]

I said it on the air too. Okay. I don't know.

[Alan Hahn]

I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I 97 for 18 years I had a baby. I posted a picture of my baby wearing a Hot 97 onesie. They didn't notice it. There wasn't a, there was no congratulations, no public congratulations that their 18 year mourning vet had a baby. I've shared it with my audience. My audience went through my divorce, they went through fertility. They went through the whole journey with me. I have the child. My audience is so excited. Do you think a great gift came in the mail?

[Don LaGreca]

Maybe it's, maybe it's not them. That's your grunt.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I assure you it's them.

[Don LaGreca]

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[Don LaGreca]

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[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't listen to anything you just said.

[Don LaGreca]

Catch the show on demand whenever you want. Just subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts. So we have a little bit of NBA news here, guys. And it is, it does have a.

[Alan Hahn]

Twinge of a local Flavor and friend of the show.

[Don LaGreca]

Friend of the show, yes. Sham Sharania is reporting that arbitrators have ruled Mark Lore and Alex Rodriguez over Glenn Taylor as the next majority ownership group of the Minnesota Timberwolves. So this is now. Because this has been something that has been. They've been at odds. It's been a year, would you say? Has this been about a year this.

[Alan Hahn]

Has been going on?

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah, but. So Laura and A Rod now should be the owners. The board of governors still has to approve them as owners. Of course, that's always the final step, but I'd be surprised if they weren't approved. But Glenn Taylor had made the sale, and then he didn't change the deal. He just decided he didn't want to sell the team and then used reasons that, oh, they didn't have enough money, they couldn't get the money and all that stuff. And some people thought it was because he saw other franchises that had sold and they sold for a lot more and he wanted to get more money. The new. The new broadcast deals were coming and he wanted a piece. So there was a lot of arguing going on. But, yeah, a Rod's gonna be an official NBA owner now.

[Alan Hahn]

That's pretty cool. And they're not nobody, right?

[Don LaGreca]

I mean, it's a good team. Yeah. They have one of the top stars, Anthony Edwards.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I mean, he was already an owner, but now he's an owner.

[Don LaGreca]

You know what I mean? Like, but he's, like, all in now.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So good for him.

[Don LaGreca]

Let's take Victor in New Jersey. Hey, Victor.

[Caller]

Hey, guys.

[Alan Hahn]

How's it going?

[Don LaGreca]

Good.

[Alan Hahn]

So the one thing I was calling in is that I wonder. And I'm sure Mara doesn't listen to me or doesn't get the. But, like, how does he feel about hearing all of these Giants fans that are saying, oh, they. They were going to root for the Eagles because of Saquon Barkley, which even emphasizes the fact that it was such a bad move not to keep him and. And to. I just don't understand why that's the case and why he's complacent in allowing Shane and Dabel to stay on board. And I know it's a Shane decision.

[Caller]

But it compounds on that bad decision.

[Alan Hahn]

And it keeps on compounding because he was accused of meddling and getting involved in what Reese was doing, what Gettleman was doing. And I think he listened to the fans and said, you know what? I'm going to lay out. I'm not going to meddle. I'm going to Let my guys make their decision when maybe he finally should have put his foot down and said, no, no, no, we're not doing this, but please do not now spin that. The Giants would have been better off if they kept Saquon. Now, nobody wanted to see him go to Philadelphia, and I do believe Philadelphia is not playing in that game if they never got Saquon. Even though Saquon didn't really contribute necessarily, he contributed statistically. Yes, he definitely helped them get to the Super Bowl. There's no question about that.

[Don LaGreca]

But don't. The problem wasn't letting him go at the end of the season. The problem was not already knowing we're moving on from him. The trade deadline came that year and they didn't trade him.

[Alan Hahn]

Right.

[Don LaGreca]

They could have.

[Alan Hahn]

And that's the problem.

[Don LaGreca]

They got nothing for him.

[Alan Hahn]

And why? I believe, because I watched Hard Knocks, that Shane didn't believe Philadelphia was interested and he got hoodwinked there. Now, would that have changed his decision? Was that just for the cameras? Oh, he's not going to Philadelphia. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, boss. He's not going to Philly. And he went and he goes right to Philly. That made it worse. But that's what you're upset about. But please do not make the narrative out to be the Giants are in the situation they're in because they let Saquon go. No, they let Saquon go because of the situation they were already in. And that's what you should be upset about. And that's why you should be worried about the future, because the same guys making the decisions. Please, let's get off this whole narrative, please.

[Don LaGreca]

Absolutely true. Frank in New Jersey. Frank.

[Caller]

Hey, Peter. Mike. I'm sorry. Peter and Don. How you guys doing for Michael? Question for Don and Peter. Don, what did you think about Strahan waving the Eagles flag yesterday? I heard today that the Giants got quite an influx of phones calls. Quite upset about that.

[Alan Hahn]

Listen, I don't know what his motivation was to troll the Giants, but it's. It's not a great look. And the lame idea of, oh, well, because I just. I really respect Saquon. Well, you don't respect other players on other teams. I. I thought it was. I didn't like it at all. Awful.

[Caller]

I didn't either. And a great question for Peter, I think, Pete, with the wrestling at the pay per view last week, I kind of sensed that there was a disconnect with Charlotte Flair and the fans, and I think she instantly changed her her skit because of that. And even on the show the other night, again, I saw somewhat of a disconnect. Did you sense any of that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think everybody. Frank sort of noticed that it was odd that it didn't appear that Charlotte was supposed to be getting booed, and they decided to boo her anyway. By the way, Frank Allen's on the show.

[Don LaGreca]

No, it's Don Hahn and Rosenberg. No, it's okay.

[Alan Hahn]

Questions. And Peter was. Was not expecting that question from that caller.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's. He asked wrestling a lot when I was.

[Alan Hahn]

I never know. I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he. He throws in. He like. And I appreciate that he's a wrestling fan.

[Don LaGreca]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But, I mean, I just want. Alan.

[Don LaGreca]

I'm not worried about that. I'm an acquired taste. It'll take a minute for some people, and that's.

[Alan Hahn]

Don't be upset.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He's like, not upset. Alan Han's like, the film. Alan Han's like. It's like lox. A lot of people try lox. The first time they go, ugh, this is disgusting. I never want to eat this again. But then later, they go, you know what? This lox isn't half bad. I'm gonna get lox on my bagel.

[Don LaGreca]

You know, we could probably do better.

[Alan Hahn]

No, I just think he had two questions that he felt that myself and Peter were.

[Don LaGreca]

What I liked is he got to the point.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He does go right to the question.

[Don LaGreca]

Did not waste any time.

[Alan Hahn]

Got a couple of Michaels. He.

[Don LaGreca]

Again, it's muscle memory for some people. It's okay. We'll get through it.

[Alan Hahn]

He made the mistake and then made it again, like two seconds.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, that's the tough part.

[Alan Hahn]

That was tough.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the tough part to get up for.

[Don LaGreca]

I'll find a way to get through it. Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast. I don't want to know how the sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good. Hear more of Don Allen and Peter weekday afternoon starting at 3 on 8 80, ESPN, the ESPN New York app, and your smart speakers.