Hour 3: The List Reaction

Summary

Don, Hahn & Rosenberg Podcast

July 8, 2026 | Hour 3: The List Reaction

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Episode Overview

Theme:
This lively hour continues Don, Hahn & Rosenberg’s rolling conversation on actors and athletes who are more recognizable by a single character or role than their real names. Listeners call in with their own suggestions, and the hosts riff on each one, blending pop culture debates with quintessential New York sports chatter. The show pivots around the “list” discussion but also features a significant segment addressing Michael Kay’s public retraction of a Yankees rumor. The tone remains energetic, sarcastic, and self-effacing throughout, with rapid banter and plenty of nostalgia.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

"The List": Actors Known Only by Their Characters

(00:44–18:53, 33:14–46:30)

• Listeners participate with calls about famous characters whose actors' names most people don't know.
  • Luke Skywalker / Mark Hamill
    • "That is Mark Hamill. And I thought, he really didn’t play any other character in anything else you would remember." – Peter (02:11)
    • Discussion on animated work (Joker) but consensus is on-screen it’s all about “Luke.”
  • Mr. Bean / Rowan Atkinson
    • “There’s nothing else but Mr. Bean. I hate him. I want to punch him right in his stupid face.” – Don (03:00)
    • Comic debate on how even with Johnny English, Atkinson’s face is synonymous with Bean.
  • Norm & Cliff from Cheers
    • “Sitting at the bar, everybody yells, ‘Norm!’” – Caller Jim (05:36)
    • The hosts banter about John Ratzenberger (“Cliff”) being the “better” example, mostly due to his voice work and minor on-screen recognition.
  • Sylvester Stallone ("Rocky") & Arnold Schwarzenegger ("Terminator")
    • Dismissed since both actors have such a wide-ranging career and are globally recognizable beyond a single role.
  • Mr. Rogers
    • “But that’s his name.” – Rosenberg (10:17)
    • Hilarious 'mic drop' gone wrong as the character and actor's name are the same.
  • Mr. Belvedere / Christopher Hewitt
    • "Can you say Mr. Belvedere’s first name? ... The actor’s name is Christopher Hewitt." – Peter (12:14)
  • V.I.C.I. (“Vicky”) from Small Wonder, Alf, and other 80s TV icons.
  • Al Bundy (Ed O’Neill) and Napoleon Dynamite (Jon Heder)
    • “That’s Al Bundy, though.” – Peter (14:58)
    • “Napoleon Dynamite ... I can’t remember Napoleon’s real name right now.” – Don (15:12)
  • Radar from MAS*H / Gary Burghoff
    • Noted as one of few who played his TV part in both movie and show formats.
  • McLovin from Superbad / Christopher Mintz-Plasse
    • "It’s not even the character's name. It’s just what’s on the ID.” – Rosenberg (34:19)
    • The group agrees McLovin transcends all as “the new Animal House” for a certain generation.
  • Columbo / Peter Falk; Matlock / Andy Griffith; Gilligan from Gilligan’s Island / Bob Denver
    • Each brought up as examples where the character eclipses the actor’s name, especially for younger audiences.
• Meta-Notes:
  • Debates on what counts—does body of work invalidate a “one-role” status?
  • Banter about outliving one’s character and show, e.g. Mr. Belvedere, and random trivia like character first names.
  • Explorations of tier-ranking for comedy actors and Ferrell movies.

Notable Quotes & Bits:

• Don (03:00): “Mr. Bean. You know, there is nothing else but Mr. Bean. I hate him. I want to punch him right in his stupid face.”
• Rosenberg (34:00): “It’s really, it’s the only time you say McLovin. … I have no idea what his name is.”
• Don (02:10): “Oh, that’s pathetic.” (Riffing Peter for not naming Luke Skywalker)
• Peter (13:00): “Aloysius. Just like Patrick Ewing.”
• Caller (13:48): “Vicky, Vicky, the robot.” – Prompting flashbacks to 'Small Wonder'
• Don (43:03): “He made that cameo in Seinfeld.”

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Michael Kay's Anthony Volpe Retraction

(22:37–32:31)

• Context Recap:
  • Michael Kay reported Volpe refused to play second base in the minors; later, he publicly apologized and clarified he’d gotten it wrong.
• Kay's On-Air Apology:
  • "My apologies go out to Anthony Volpe for any angst that I might have caused him by a story that kind of exploded early in the morning..." (24:03)
  • Explained he trusted old sources, but after rechecking, confirmed “it never happened.”
• Discussing Journalistic Responsibility:
  • Rosenberg: “You trust sources, right? ... He’s not talking to just anybody.” (25:08)
  • Peter: “I always say where there’s smoke, there’s fire ... Why hasn’t he played somewhere else?” (25:31)
• Speculating on the Yankees’ Handling of Volpe:
  • Debate whether Volpe’s lack of position change is talent-based, coaching inertia, or personnel trust.
  • Rosenberg: “If those numbers matter, then why wouldn’t you start to say, 'Listen, we probably gotta move him to second base or something?'” (26:38)
  • Peter: “There’s something more to this than just 'that’s not true.' He’ll play anywhere ... or he can’t.” (26:43)
  • Consensus: Volpe's “runway” is running out, likely headed for a fresh start elsewhere.
• Yankees Shortstop Carousel:
  • Discussion about prospects (Lombard), position battles, “landlocking” young talent, organizational regret about not pursuing other free agent shortstops (Seager, Story).
  • “But at some point ... you just, you can’t have holes like this. You just can’t. And there isn’t anybody that’s going to say, boy, I wish they gave him a chance. They gave him more than plenty of chance, for sure.” – Rosenberg (32:51)
  • Emotional undercurrent about Volpe’s Jersey background and family being lifelong Yankees fans.

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More List Submissions, Nostalgia & Pop Culture Deep Cuts

(Throughout the episode)

• Callers continue proposing their “mic drop” examples, leading to playful banter:
  • Columbo, Matlock, Gilligan—derivation between actor/character recognition across generations
  • Peter (36:23): Shares backstory about Jonah Hill following him on Instagram—until Hill’s account vanished.
  • Ongoing jokes about celebrities who follow back everyone (“Melissa Joan Hart ... she follows like 300 million”).
• Movie rankings (“Blades of Glory” as lower-tier Will Ferrell), appreciation for random celebrity cameos (Elvis Costello in “Talladega Nights”), and the fading line between a character and actor’s identity.
• Tangents on mid-80s sitcoms—Small Wonder, Alf, Happy Days, etc.—and why they encapsulate cultural eras.

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Final Yankees Segment & Closing Thoughts

(43:37–46:30)

• Previewing Yankees-Rays, pitching staff issues, and the existential anxiety of having to rely on an "opener."
• Don & Rosenberg double down on sports talk:
  • “You’re also putting a lot of pressure on Cole to give you a couple of innings tonight … that’s going to be a bit of a problem.” – Peter (45:03)
  • “Mets baseball next." – End of episode pivot (46:30)

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Quote | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:44 | Start of actor/character “list” conversation | | 03:00 | Don on Mr. Bean: “I hate him. I want to punch him right in his stupid face.” | | 05:36 | “Norm!” from Cheers call | | 10:17 | Caller’s “mic drop”—Mr. Rogers (prompting laughter) | | 13:00 | Character trivia: Mr. Belvedere, Vicky from Small Wonder | | 14:45 | Al Bundy and Napoleon Dynamite discussions | | 22:37 | Rosenberg transitions to Michael Kay’s Volpe retraction story | | 24:03 | Michael Kay’s quote: “My apologies go out to Anthony Volpe...” | | 25:08 | Rosenberg discusses how sports journalists use sources | | 26:43 | Peter: “There’s something more to this than just ...” | | 32:51 | Rosenberg: “But at some point ... you just, you can’t have holes like this.” | | 34:00 | McLovin/Superbad section | | 35:28 | Jonah Hill/Nostalgia sidebar | | 41:18 | Caller: Columbo and Matlock nominations | | 45:03 | Peter: “You’re also putting a lot of pressure on Cole ...” | | 46:30 | Show wraps with Mets baseball handoff |

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Memorable Quotes

• “It’s not even the character’s name. It’s just what’s on the ID.” – Rosenberg on McLovin (34:19)
• “He dropped his. By the way, show is over.” – Don, after a failed mic drop call (10:30)
• “If those numbers matter, then why wouldn’t you start to say, ‘Listen, we probably gotta move him to second base or something?’’ – Rosenberg (26:38)

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Summary Takeaways

• Pop Culture and Sports Intersect:
  The episode is a rapid-fire mashup of sports debate and TV/film nostalgia, blending audience participation with hosts' encyclopedic memory of pop culture.
• List Topic Remains King:
  The quest for the ultimate “character identity” actor dominates, from Star Wars to Superbad, sparking deep-dive discussions and a blend of humor and generational perspective.
• Yankees Gossip Dissected:
  The Volpe retraction segment provides an honest lens on sports rumor, accountability, and behind-the-scenes decision-making in major league baseball.
• Classic Show Banter:
  Hosts’ easy camaraderie and ability to riff seamlessly between calls, sports, and film makes this hour energetic and engaging, even for those outside New York or non-sports fans.

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For fans of New York sports or anyone who loves the blend of nostalgia, pop culture, and honest, sometimes snarky, discussion—this episode distills what makes Don, Hahn & Rosenberg a reliably entertaining drive-time listen.

Transcript

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[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Rosenberg]

of the big city Don on a Rosenberg with you until 6:30. Then it's Mets and Royals. What's up the Mets sleeve today? What kind of wacky way are they going to lose or win today it is. There's nothing. Like sometimes when sports is bad, it's entertaining like there's nothing. I'm sure there weren't proud. The Royals were not proud of the little league home inside the park home run that the Mets got. But it's fun to watch just because guys throwing the ball all over the place and runs being so. I mean 1612 yesterday Yankees striking out. But we've hit on something with actors that you would meet and only know them by their character and not their name. And the phones are blowing up and I tease Kadeem because he's got one that Allen should have been the first right out of the box.

[Don]

You know what Kadeem and the Shabbat shamed of himself.

[Rosenberg]

You're on Donna Rosenberg. Let Alan know what he should have guessed.

[Caller]

Alan, I'm not going to lie. I was always disappointed in you. But gentlemen, good afternoon. Great meeting at the parade the other day but the one that I had Luke Skywalker, I mean I don't know.

[Peter]

I thought of that and thought to myself there's no way if I say it these guys are going to jump me because it's a Star wars thing. So I left it in the holster.

[Don]

Oh, that's pathetic.

[Peter]

I definitely. That is Mark Hamill. And I thought he really didn't play any other character in anything else that you would remember.

[Rosenberg]

No animated series. The Joker, he's.

[Peter]

He's. But still like he's really never done anything on camera as himself.

[Rosenberg]

We wait a minute. What do you care if we make fun of you?

[Caller]

No, no.

[Rosenberg]

You could beat us up, right?

[Don]

You say look at me how my house is working Out.

[Peter]

Right. But. But it's not. It was more of. I was true. This is me again. I'm trying too hard. I'm like trying to never think we.

[Rosenberg]

We.

[Peter]

Of Luke Skywalker. No.

[Rosenberg]

We.

[Don]

But it's huge.

[Comcast Announcer]

That's a.

[Don]

It's a really good one.

[Peter]

I know. Domino.

[Caller]

It was brought up in the meeting too.

[Don]

It was brought up, by the way. So Ballard believes he has a mic drop moment.

[Ad Voice]

I don't.

[Don]

I don't hate it.

[Rosenberg]

Mic drop. But you think it's a mic drop.

[Don]

I think he didn't say that. He said my. He said it's his number one. I think it's. It's tough to argue.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don]

Strong. Mr. Bean. You know, there is nothing else but Mr. Bean. I hate him. I want to punch him right in his stupid face. You just hate his face.

[Peter]

But it's so dopey.

[Rosenberg]

What is his first act? Rowan act.

[Don]

If you. If you had done the multiple choice, I would not have done that. I would have said the only line would have went to nowhere.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don]

I have no idea.

[Rosenberg]

I think about it. It's good. The reason I won't say drop the mic.

[Caller]

I.

[Rosenberg]

Was there ever an attempt to do anything else?

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

You know, I'm trying to think. I'd have to go.

[Don]

He owned.

[Caller]

But that's the thing.

[Don]

His is almost so strong. You can't do anything.

[Rosenberg]

Wouldn't Borat be sort of like that too?

[Ad Voice]

No.

[Don]

I mean, at some point. No.

[Peter]

I know he's done other things.

[Caller]

Johnny English apparently never. Along with Mr. Bean.

[Don]

No. Sacha Baron Cohen.

[Peter]

I know. Sacha Baron Cohen. But I mean, though it dies.

[Don]

That's this week. That's very relevant and right now.

[Peter]

Because if you think about. How many people would just think that. Well, because not everybody consumes everything that an actor does that.

[Don]

Okay.

[Peter]

That is what's the most thing that you see. And you yell that because it's easier than remembering Sacha Baron Cohen.

[Don]

That is actually really fair. Even though he's, like really successful for a lot of things. You're correct.

[Peter]

I understand.

[Don]

The only problem is when you see him, he would never look like Borat. So you wouldn't even do it.

[Peter]

Then you'd say.

[Don]

You would go, who is that again?

[Peter]

You'd say Ricky Booby. Then you'd say that.

[Don]

That. By the way.

[Ad Voice]

That's right.

[Don]

By the way. What a great. What a great scene that is.

[Peter]

And it's just a whole.

[Don]

His character in that movie could have been.

[Rosenberg]

It is one of the most amazing cameos in movie history when he. When he visits him at his house and Elvis Costello is just sitting at the table. Nothing. Just sitting at the table. Was that. Was that Elvis Costello? And then that's it. That's the only.

[Peter]

It's not in.

[Don]

I love stuff like that.

[Rosenberg]

I. I just love. The other day. Flew him in, put makeup on and.

[Peter]

Or maybe he was around completely. You want to be in the scene.

[Rosenberg]

It must have been just. He was visiting somebody. Make it random, but just in typical will thorough fashion. Just turn around. He was. Was that Elvis Costello?

[Peter]

It's literally all I've ever wanted was to just be like a random guy in a scene in a big movie where you're just sitting there and the only people that like, people that know you will just go, was that. Was that just Don? Right?

[Caller]

Right.

[Peter]

Like if you were in just a random scene where you say nothing, you're just sitting there, but everybody that knows you just says that. Was that Don McReca?

[Rosenberg]

Jim. And Carmel's got a really good one too. What's up, Jim?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Classic from the 80s. Sitting at the bar, everybody yells, norm.

[Rosenberg]

Norm.

[Peter]

Yeah, that's very, very good.

[Don]

I thought about it, but I know Don too well, and I know he'd immediately just say George went.

[Peter]

And that would be it.

[Don]

So it's. It is a. It is a good. I mean, honestly, Cliff. And Cliff is the better one because I got no idea.

[Peter]

John Ratzenberger, right?

[Caller]

Is that how it's.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Good poll. That is outstanding.

[Don]

Not only a good poll.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, that makes sense for all the lack of guesses.

[Peter]

I love me some Cheers.

[Rosenberg]

I guess so. And he was also.

[Peter]

He's the voice in every. Every Toy Story. He's. What is he. He's the pig or something. Toy Story.

[Don]

Oh, he's. I didn't realize. He's a big Toy Story.

[Rosenberg]

Do you know the. What's his name again? From Cliff. The Cliff from Cheers.

[Peter]

John Ratzenberg.

[Rosenberg]

John Ratzenberger. I think up until recently, I could

[Peter]

be saying it wrong for.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know. The first one he was in was his voice was in every Disney animated movie. Even if we just throwing him to say one word. Like Coco.

[Peter]

No, no.

[Rosenberg]

He says like one word.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And that's it. Like they put it every single lot. Yeah, I think. I think the streak ended recently.

[Peter]

But they just saw Toy Story 5 with Cali. He's in it. Is he the same character?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Peter]

The.

[Rosenberg]

It's the bank and. And the guy that played Norm was in a movie with Michael Keaton from 1986 called Gung Ho. You ever seen that?

[Peter]

Oh, yes.

[Caller]

What?

[Peter]

Why, Peter?

[Caller]

Why?

[Don]

You know, layout.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Don]

Until you got till 5:22.

[Peter]

What happened the.

[Don]

Disrespected him even. I've referenced it on the show.

[Peter]

Oh, have you ever heard.

[Don]

Have you ever seen Gung Ho?

[Peter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Wouldn't exactly fly today, but I. I enjoy.

[Peter]

Wouldn't work today.

[Rosenberg]

Real time.

[Caller]

Away with it.

[Comcast Announcer]

It's.

[Peter]

It's one of those movies that. Why don't we ever see that on, you know, free form. Why is that never. I mean, by the way.

[Don]

And by the way, the point of the movie is the right point.

[Caller]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don]

It's just how they get slightly insensitive. There are some moments that you go, that's not. But there's. But it's also supposed to be like George went is he says a lot of the inappropriate things in the movie. He's supposed to be an Neanderthal.

[Peter]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

He's also trying to hold on to

[Don]

his job and hold on to his job. And they're upset because the car dealerships bringing all these guys from Japan. And so you. You can imagine what ensues in this early to mid-80s film. But it ends up being. It ends up being a tremendously funny movie. And I love. And a great story in the end. I love Michael Keaton movies from that.

[Peter]

Same, same, same.

[Don]

There, there. By the way, this. This list, it's so many. There's so many things that, yes, you know the actor's name. Then there's another. It's almost a different list. They're a huge actor. You absolutely know their name, but their character, they will still always be, no

[Peter]

matter what they're in this.

[Rosenberg]

There are people that, I don't want to say misunderstood, but I did get a lot of Sylvester Stallone, like Rocky. There's Rocky.

[Don]

That's so dumb because Rambo's almost as big. Right.

[Rosenberg]

But I think up until Rambo, he definitely got that. Like I got earlier.

[Don]

Up until Rambo, that was like 85 was the first one.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, it was a.

[Don]

That's a pretty brief window.

[Rosenberg]

No, I know, 45. The first Rocky movie was 76.

[Don]

No, no, Rambo. And first Rambo's like 83.

[Peter]

First Rambo was earlier 82. 83.

[Rosenberg]

I got Arnold Schwarzenegger, Terminator. But I'm sorry, there's just too much, too much. Too much of a body of work.

[Don]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

But you might get a yo, yo. Scream, hey, Terminator. But you know, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger. You're not going to forget Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Don]

I think when you see Arnold, so much bigger. That's Arnold.

[Caller]

He was a governor.

[Don]

That's. That's the governor to you and me. And then obviously wrestlers deal with it all the time. That's different because they take the name for their life.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

RC in Jersey, you're on ESPN New York.

[Caller]

Gentlemen.

[Rosenberg]

What's up?

[Caller]

Okay, I got three. I got three for you. First one, Steve Austin.

[Peter]

Six Million Dollar Man.

[Rosenberg]

The Six Million Dollar Majors.

[Don]

That's the characters. Lee Majors. I'm sorry, the actors.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

Second one is a guy that you would call by the movie name. The only guy you would ever think of that you would call him by the movie name Scarface.

[Rosenberg]

That's Al Pacino.

[Don]

It's Al Pacino, dude.

[Rosenberg]

Al Pacino was in the Godfather.

[Don]

Rc, it's Michael Corleone.

[Caller]

All right. I saved the best for last.

[Don]

I don't want to say you're not. You're not stupid.

[Rosenberg]

No, I'm sure people do.

[Don]

I thought scarf. I was like, Scarface is. But then you got Michael Corleone.

[Peter]

It's just too big.

[Rosenberg]

All right, what do you.

[Caller]

All right, this is. Drop the mic. I'm gonna hang up after.

[Don]

I'm worried about your.

[Peter]

Drop the mic.

[Caller]

Go ahead, Mr. Rogers.

[Rosenberg]

But RC, that's his name.

[Don]

You know what? Drop the mic. Yell down, Mr. Roger.

[Ad Voice]

Turn around.

[Rosenberg]

Cause that's his name.

[Don]

Fred Rogers.

[Rosenberg]

Mr. Rogers. He thought it was a drop the mic moment. He dropped it on his head.

[Don]

He dropped his. By the way, show is over.

[Don Hahn]

Show is over.

[Caller]

This always happens to us.

[Don]

I know that, Roger. That was a fantastic call. That was.

[Rosenberg]

RC brought it.

[Don]

Everyone was worse than the next.

[Rosenberg]

It's a great call.

[Don]

He did Sylvester Stallone. Completely wrong. No. Was that what his first one was? What was his first one?

[Rosenberg]

No, it's.

[Peter]

No.

[Rosenberg]

Well, Scarface was his second.

[Peter]

No, no, the first one was Terminator. No.

[Don]

Now, what was the first one? Because I know it was wrong. They were all wrong. All three.

[Rosenberg]

No, you remember. No, the. The majors.

[Peter]

Oh, yeah.

[Don]

How was that? Before my time.

[Rosenberg]

No, they would have. They would have yelled out $6 million, man.

[Peter]

Because he was also in the other.

[Comcast Announcer]

What was.

[Peter]

The next show he did was the stuntman guy.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, the fall guy.

[Peter]

Fall guy. Yeah. So like. No, he's a well known actor.

[Don]

Yeah. So no.

[Caller]

But.

[Rosenberg]

But still not awful.

[Don]

Not awful, no. Progressively worse. And then it ends with Mr. Rogers,

[Rosenberg]

which he would have turned around and just stuck out his hands and Glad to meet you.

[Don]

Glad to meet you.

[Caller]

His name.

[Peter]

I love how proud he was, though, of that call.

[Don]

I thought he was gonna say Mr. Bean again.

[Rosenberg]

But in defense of RC, he probably just didn't know that that was his real name.

[Caller]

So.

[Don]

By the way, I think Belvedere is a drop the mic.

[Rosenberg]

That all.

[Don]

It is a huge show.

[Rosenberg]

He's still with us.

[Peter]

I don't think Belvedere. He was kind of older back then.

[Don]

He is with us. It's a miracle.

[Caller]

He.

[Rosenberg]

Again, I. You know, I bet.

[Don]

I bet he's been gone for 20 years.

[Peter]

20, you say? What do you say, Don?

[Rosenberg]

I would not be surprised if he died a year after the show was over. I have a feeling. I don't think he lived long.

[Don]

By the way, here's the shocking take, though.

[Peter]

Go ahead.

[Don]

It was drive by. Oh, yeah. It wasn't natural causes. He had beef.

[Caller]

That's what I'm saying.

[Don]

I think Belvedere was taking.

[Peter]

First of all, can you say Mr. Belvedere's first name? If you know the character's name, the character's first name. This. This blows my mind. You. Only you won't come close.

[Don]

No.

[Peter]

First of all, the actor's name is Christopher Hewitt.

[Don]

Christopher Hewitt.

[Peter]

He is no longer with us.

[Don]

And what year did he die?

[Peter]

August 3rd, 2001.

[Don]

Right between. What did I say? I said 20 years.

[Peter]

He said 20.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

The show's off in 1990s, so I win. I bet you he still died young, though.

[Peter]

79 years young.

[Don]

Yeah, but he was a little on the young side. But.

[Rosenberg]

But it was a brick. It was the Bob Euchre vehicle.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Don]

Oh, you kidding me?

[Peter]

But very bizarre character name. Lynn.

[Don]

Lynn. I didn't know that.

[Rosenberg]

How did you know that?

[Don]

Lynn Belvedere. Yeah, I remember that.

[Rosenberg]

Aloysius Belvedere.

[Don]

Aloysius.

[Peter]

Aloysius. Just like Patrick Ewing.

[Don]

Lynn Aloysius Belvedere.

[Rosenberg]

Well, there's Lynn Swan. It is a can be a man, by the way.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Peter]

You're not, you know, I mean, just. You're creating a character and you're going,

[Don]

but by the way, Patrick. Patrick's Jamaican.

[Peter]

Patrick aloysius Ewing.

[Don]

And Mr. Belvedere's British.

[Peter]

Yep.

[Don]

So there's the Aloysius.

[Peter]

So there you go. Yeah.

[Charles Barkley]

Yeah.

[Peter]

All right. So dead since 2001.

[Caller]

Yeah. All right.

[Rosenberg]

So that's not in 79. That's. That's. That's young.

[Peter]

Ish. Yeah.

[Don]

Michael's not taking it.

[Peter]

Wait, wait, wait. The show ended in what year?

[Rosenberg]

90. So he was in the 60s?

[Peter]

Yeah.

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[Rosenberg]

So went from 85 to 90 so

[Peter]

he was in his he 5 year old 60s. And then. All right, that makes sense.

[Rosenberg]

And again, that was that time period where if you were 60, you might as well be dead.

[Don]

What about Vicky?

[Peter]

Vicky, Vicki, the.

[Don]

The robot.

[Peter]

Oh, God.

[Don]

You remember that TV show?

[Peter]

It was. What was it called?

[Don]

Small Wonder.

[Peter]

Small Wonder.

[Rosenberg]

Oh my. That wasn't an iconic show.

[Don]

But Vicky was a thing though.

[Rosenberg]

No, Vicky was a thing. Small Wonder. Alf.

[Don]

Alf was.

[Rosenberg]

There was like a three year period when I was like, I would say sophomore year of high school till I graduated. I didn't watch any television because it was so bad.

[Don]

I was.

[Rosenberg]

Not because it was bad. It's just that I was young. I just got my driver's license. I was.

[Don]

Now that's the era where I'm a child and I'm.

[Rosenberg]

It's all doing that.

[Don]

That's.

[Rosenberg]

That's a big deal because it's huge. You know. You know what?

[Don]

You're huge to me.

[Rosenberg]

You know what that was for you was what Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley3's company was for me.

[Don]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

Was like. That was right in my wheelhouse where I'm watching all those shows.

[Peter]

Pietro chimed in. No, no, no. Trying to help out.

[Caller]

Oh, oh.

[Rosenberg]

I thought it was going to assume

[Peter]

gave us two options.

[Caller]

Ready?

[Peter]

The first one, Al Bundy. People see him now, I know he's

[Don]

not wrong, but he is in.

[Peter]

He also was in another big modern film.

[Don]

No, he's been in a lot of

[Peter]

big things, but when you see him.

[Rosenberg]

Movie.

[Don]

That's Al Bundy though.

[Peter]

And then the other one was Napoleon Dynamite.

[Rosenberg]

That's a great dad. Yeah.

[Don]

You know,

[Peter]

by the way, on vacation he's doing this.

[Don]

Rick, I plain old hate your guts,

[Rosenberg]

but not a fan.

[Don]

But damn it if I don'. That's a great point. I don't. I can't remember Napoleon's real name right now.

[Rosenberg]

Hater.

[Peter]

Yes.

[Don]

No, it's not Hater. Not Bill Hader.

[Caller]

He.

It's.

[Rosenberg]

It's definitely an a.

[Peter]

Something along those lines.

[Rosenberg]

And I think I told you guys, we watched it with the kids. Napoleon Dynamite. You could watch with the kids. There's really nothing.

[Caller]

Yeah, John Hader.

[Peter]

John Hater.

[Don]

John Hader Yeah, I said Hater with

[Rosenberg]

the D. No, he was in that ice skating movie with Little Ferro.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Was there anything else?

[Don]

That was the only. That's, that's all I remember.

[Rosenberg]

That's. You know what?

[Peter]

That's terrible.

[Rosenberg]

I'm sure he still gets that today. Napoleon.

[Don]

Oh, I wonder.

[Caller]

He was in Bench Warmers. That was kind of funny.

[Don]

He was in Benchwarmers.

[Caller]

Oh, that.

[Rosenberg]

You know what? Blades of Glory.

[Don]

That was the name of the Blades of Glory.

[Caller]

Blades of Glory. Great move.

[Don]

That's great's. Gonna be a little bit strong.

[Caller]

Oh, tremendous.

[Peter]

It's hilarious. It's hilarious.

[Caller]

I don't think anybody that hasn't seen it is allowed to come back into work tomorrow, by the way.

[Don]

We've all seen it for what. What tier? What tier Feral movie is that, though?

[Rosenberg]

It's the lower.

[Don]

It's. It's three. He's got your three.

[Peter]

Tier Three.

[Don]

I mean, he's got five tiers. Be clear. There's some fours and fives.

[Peter]

I'll tell you what, Ferrell's got some lines in that movie.

[Caller]

Oh.

[Don]

I mean, every movie. Feral.

[Rosenberg]

We.

[Don]

We. What? Hold on. I'm sorry. Middle summer, right?

[Peter]

Emotional.

[Don]

We were watching the other day. It was. It was. We were about to watch a movie before we started the movie. We watched Obsession, by the way.

[Caller]

Was it good?

[Don]

We. Oh, fantastic.

[Rosenberg]

I have to see it.

[Don]

We paid the 1999. We rented it.

[Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Don]

It's worth it. Do it tonight or don't come to work tomorrow. Oh, no, Don. We just. For whatever reason, I just went on YouTube to kill time while me and my friends and Natalie were hanging out, and we just ended up on east and Eastbound and down to outtakes.

[Peter]

Oh, my God.

[Don]

Do you have you watched the outtakes before?

[Rosenberg]

I have.

[Don]

Remember when Will Ferrell is Ashley Schaefer, Basically Ric Flair. He just looks like Ric Flair. Yes. And he goes, I was making love with my wife, and my youngest son Gabriel walked in the room. She said, stop. I said, no, let him watch. Let him learn the way I learned. And they just can't keep it together. Craig Robinson, Danny McBride, they're all staring, and he just keeps crushing them every single take. Oh, he's so good. But I haven't watched his new show at all. I have not watched one moment of the new golf show with. With Will Ferrell.

[Caller]

No.

[Don]

Have you?

[Rosenberg]

No. You know how I like everything about golf except.

[Don]

I know. And it. But yet I haven't watched it at all.

[Rosenberg]

Mendy. I. I had this as an honorable mention. I didn't bring it up. Was Radar from mash. Gary Berghoff.

[Peter]

That's a good one.

[Rosenberg]

He was in. He was in the movie. And then he ended up playing one

[Peter]

of the few that did both.

[Caller]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

And he also was in what is considered the shortest run of a sitcom in the history of television.

[Charles Barkley]

Hmm.

[Rosenberg]

They spun off. They had a couple of spin offs

[Peter]

off MASH after mash.

[Rosenberg]

And then they had one called Walter after he went left, he went home, they had a show. He goes back home and then he

[Peter]

gets to start lifestyle, tries to assimilate.

[Rosenberg]

The pilot episode aired on the East Coast. Something happened that day. So by the time it was supposed to air on the west coast, whatever breaking news, they never aired it on the west coast because they broke into the news and they canceled it after the pilot and then that was it. So it didn't even make it through its first day. But that is a great one, Mendy. Terrific job and a lot of people saying Rowan Atkinson. Somebody else just chimed in with the Napoleon Dynamite. Okay, good stuff. Good stuff. That was a lot of fun.

[Don]

You know, we'll see. We'll try to get back to sports. I'm looking at the phone right now.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, there's a lot of people chiming in about this.

[Don]

Here's what you have. You have five calls about the list and then you have the Mets gave Soto too much. Do you understand why it's hard to take the Soto call?

[Caller]

To be fair, he called when we

[Peter]

were talking about it.

[Don]

It's not his fault.

[Rosenberg]

I get it.

[Don]

No, we'll talk to him. We'll talk to him before 6 o'. Clock.

[Rosenberg]

But while we're doing that, you're supposed to tell us on what you're going to be betting on when soccer comes back.

[Don]

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[Don Hahn]

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[Caller]

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[Rosenberg]

So driving in today, listening to Michael and I guess Michael said back on Monday that he was told by two different people that Volpe didn't want to play second base. He only wanted to play shortstop, and that's why he's only played shortstop. Joel Sherman has also reported that too. Well, today Michael opened his show, basically apologizing for getting that wrong. Here's Michael.

[Caller]

I want to take this time to clear up something that I said on yesterday's show that kind of exploded. And I want to start off by apologizing, because people sometimes do get things wrong. I said. And it was kind of, you know, in the middle of a long soliloquy about Anthony Volpe that I heard from a couple people and that there were rumors out there that he was asked to play second base in the minors and didn't want to. Well, the two people that told me were people that I respect and usually give me good information. And I didn't think it was that big of a deal to say, you know, in retrospect, it is a big deal, especially, you know, the way Anthony has had people coming down on his head about the way he's played and why is he still, you know, the shortstop for the Yankees, whatever the case may be. That's just. That was dumb on my part, not realizing that the enormity of anything you say about Anthony Volpe and how it's going to be received. Well, I got a phone call today from somebody in the know, and no, it wasn't Brian Cashman. For all the people on social media that are jumping me, it was not Brian Cashman. And the guy said to me, you know, that stuff that you said about Volpe, it's just not true. You should. You should check with a couple more people now because of the couple of people that told me that I respect. I didn't check with more people, and obviously, in retrospect, I should have. And then I made a couple of phone calls, and I was told that that never happened. So my apologies go out to Anthony Volpe for any, you know, angst that I might have caused him by a story that kind of exploded early in the morning. And then I sent out a tweet later on, said that, you know, after checking out, it was not, in fact, the case that he was not asked to play second. Now, Joel Sherman of the New York Post, I guess the day before had written something similar. He has not retracted what he said. I'm just saying that after checking further and the people that I spoke to today, they said, you know what? That didn't happen. We tell you, if it did, that didn't happen. So. Because it was people I respect, and people have told me yesterday were people I respect, too. But when you dig deeper and you, you know, you find the specific people that you should be asking, and then it comes out that that wasn't the case, well, then I'll say that I was wrong.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, you trust sources, right? I mean, he said he talked to multiple people. And I've known Michael for 25 years. You know, he's not talking to just anybody. He's talking to somebody that he's trusted. It has given him information before and it's gotten it right. So good. Goodbye, Michael. But I also don't, you know, fault Michael, cuz he's got good connections. And if his connections have been trusted before and it's multiple connections, but it

[Peter]

also go with him. I'll go with this. I always say whether smoke, there's fire. So there's a reason to think that maybe it's not entirely accurate, but maybe there is something to it. Right? Because why hasn't he played somewhere? Why haven't they tried him in different areas? And if I'm not mistaken, I thought in spring training. Am I wrong? Because I know he was hurt. But who was, who was playing second? Who was. Or third? Somebody was playing third. Or was he down in the Miners playing third?

[Rosenberg]

No, he didn't. He only played short with the Patriots.

[Peter]

It was. I know Lombard was playing third.

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[Peter]

All right, so again, there was a lot going on in the spring, but. But for me, I like there's always that where there's smoke, there's fire. And it is kind of curious that it's never even come up as an option when Caballero, as we've seen when he starts at short, the Yankees are a better team. And if we're looking at numbers, why do some numbers matter and some numbers don't? If those numbers matter, then why wouldn't you start to say, listen, we probably got to move him to second base or something?

[Rosenberg]

Well, they, they obviously think he can't play it.

[Peter]

Well, then he clearly they can't. And then. You don't want to say that publicly.

[Rosenberg]

You don't want to say that.

[Peter]

Here's what happens is, you know, we wanted to move him there, but he can't. Right? Like he can't do it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter]

And so you don't want to kill the. Like, that's why there's something more to this than just I remember that's not true. He'll play anywhere. He's willing to or he can't.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I went to a couple of Patriot games early in the season and I remember asking Michael, like, why is he playing short? This is an opportunity for him to play another position.

[Peter]

Caballero's doing probably not strong enough.

[Rosenberg]

Or second. Like, I'm not saying the Patriot Games don't matter. Those guys want to win games. But ultimately, you're double A affiliate of the Yankees, you're gonna do whatever you're told, right? If I want him at second base, he's gonna be second. I want the pitch, he's gonna pay. That's the way it works, right? So Michael said he's gonna talk to Volpe. Volpe was apparently caught off guard by all this, as Chris Kirschner from the Athletic reported that Volpe said, quote, when I was getting optioned, I told Boone I'd play catcher. I would do literally whatever the team needed. And that's the truth. Volpe said he was caught off guard by the story that he refused to play second base. Now, this also could be a semantics thing where maybe he was never asked, but the intent was he doesn't want to do it. He's never said that. We've never asked him, but we just know that he wouldn't be good at it or it just wouldn't work. So they could say with a straight face, hey, never. We never asked him. There was probably never a conversation. Why would Volpe ever go to the Yankees and say, I don't want to play another position and then go play for the Patriots or Scranton or get traded away?

[Peter]

Who's to say he was asked this year? Who's to say he wasn't asked in the past?

[Rosenberg]

He might have asked his agent, like,

[Peter]

one time was he kind of said, no, I'm a shortstop. And then from that point, it's like, well, you know, he refused to play anywhere else that could have been from two years ago, three years ago. We don't know, but doesn't change. The most important part of the conversation involving him is that the clock's ticking.

[Caller]

Like, let's.

[Peter]

Like we. You are reaching that point now where the understanding is that his future here is not for long. That's what's most important. All this other stuff becomes in the ether, because in the end, it's no longer, to me, the Runway. You need to give a young player to prove himself, because I think that Runway was given to him. I even said last year, he deserves it. You got to give him more time. I know Cashman wanted to as well. Then Cashman's tune changed last year at the end of the year and going into this year where he first was saying, nope, that's his spot. And then it became, well, you know, somebody beats him out for it. So that's the reality. The reality is here's a young Player that they thought they might have hit on that they brought up early and they have not hit on. And it's clear that they need a break. It's clear Volpe needs a fresh start somewhere else. And I imagine on the horizon we're

[Rosenberg]

going to see it happen. And just that you organizations want to hold on to their guys. They drafted him, came up through their system and remember when they brought him up, guys, there was a lot of options free agent wise at shortstop they could have pivoted to and they didn't because they didn't want to landlock Volpe.

[Peter]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

So now as you survey it, it's not just he isn't worked out. Who could we have had that we passed on because we wanted this to work. So I understand them wanting to make it.

[Don]

Who was it?

[Peter]

They was a Trey Turner.

[Rosenberg]

Who was it? No, it was.

[Peter]

Who am I thinking of? He went to the. He went to Texas.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Yes. It was Seager.

[Rosenberg]

Seeger. Yeah. Right. Seeger. I. I don't know if they would have ever.

[Peter]

I thought he said it in your ear too.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I know. He did not. He's. But I, I should have remembered anyway.

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

No, Seeger was, was one. I, I don't know if they would have ever gone the route. Who was the, the Rocky that ended up on the Red Sox. He wouldn't have worked out.

[Caller]

Story.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter]

Story was.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if they would have gone there anyway.

[Peter]

Story loves Jeter.

[Rosenberg]

But there was a few guys that they could have pivoted to. They didn't. And I remember when on the K show Michael would always say they don't want to landlock Volpe. They don't want to landlock Volpe because Volpe was going to be the next.

[Peter]

You don't want to do. Now you don't want to landlock George Lombard.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that's why I. Kidding. Yeah.

[Peter]

The way they talk about him defensively already ready already.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Peter]

And the problem is the bat. You don't want him to turn into Volpe exactly where he's just can't. He's not ready offensively. And then eventually that offensive struggle that is going to happen to a young player affects his defense. But it seems like Lombard's a little bit more tough minded.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Peter]

And a little more swag to him and confidence. What did I tell you about those guys? You're bottom of the order guys. You can't. You can't have soft minded guys. You've got to have gritty guys at the bottom of your order because they're the ones that are going to go through slumps, but you can't have that affect their defense. And with Volpe, what do we see when his offense isn't going, his defense goes to crap, and that can't happen.

[Rosenberg]

But there is nobody, including Volpe's camp, that if they gave up on him, they, they could complain. He didn't give it a fair shake.

[Peter]

No, no, he's gotten, he got a

[Rosenberg]

shot, didn't work out, and I think at some point you've got to cut.

[Peter]

His family's from Jersey, you know, it's a great story. They're very sensitive, they pay attention because they're all Yankee fans. So they hear it all, they know it all. You know that's going on.

[Rosenberg]

It's not about it being a good kid.

[Peter]

It's not the smartest thing to do, but this is what they're doing. But they've got to know that he's give, he was given plenty of time. It's not working out. He's going to get a chance somewhere else because he's too young to give up on, but it's not going to be here. And at some point, so all this stuff about whether he wanted to do this or wanted to, never mind, it's not working out and it's going to end up being somewhere else soon. And where do they go from here is the most curious thing because it still opens up a spot on the roster and opens up a spot in your infield. All right, Caballero is going to play short. Is Jazz really your long term solution at second base?

[Rosenberg]

No, no. Right.

[Peter]

Is like, is McMahon your guy at third?

[Rosenberg]

Long term, he is very good defensively and can hit some home runs, so he kind of fits what they like.

[Peter]

But is he really what you're doing? So if Lombard is your future, it's short now because if Bolby moves on or is Caballero going to be your shortstop and you keep developing Lombard as your third baseman? It's a lot to think about.

[Rosenberg]

It's a lot. But at some point, again, great kid, great story, but you just, you can't have, you can't have holes like this. You just can't. And there isn't anybody that's going to say, boy, I wish they gave him a chance. They gave him more than plenty of chance, for sure. 1-800-919-3776 Dwayne is in Virginia. You're on ESPN, New York. What's up, Dwayne?

[Caller]

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Great Show.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you.

[Caller]

I think I got the mic drop for you though.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Caller]

How about McLovin?

[Peter]

Not bad.

[Charles Barkley]

It's not bad.

[Rosenberg]

It's not a mic drop. It's not bad.

[Don]

He's.

[Peter]

It's really, it's the only time you say McLovin.

[Rosenberg]

It's really, it's really good.

[Don]

I have no idea what his name is.

[Caller]

Not even me either.

[Don]

And that movie is. And that movie, talking about super bad. It became an iconic movie. And just think about if you're younger than us too. Like this is three guys ranging from 46 to late 50s. Think about if you're 20 to 35, 40 or 15 to 40, that movies like your Animal House.

[Peter]

That's your Animal House.

[Don]

It's all. And it's McLovin.

[Peter]

Yes.

[Don]

Like the ID just says McLovin. Like that's a great. It's close to mic drop, dude.

[Rosenberg]

You know, right there. You know what's so amazing? You might have to read about that. Well, listen, the post went up.

[Don]

We might have to do something.

[Rosenberg]

It's not even the character's name.

[Don]

Nope.

[Rosenberg]

Just what's on the id.

[Peter]

You know what, that's true.

[Don]

Oh, that's a great game. What is McLovin's real name?

[Peter]

What's his character name?

[Don]

That's what I mean, what's the character's name?

[Rosenberg]

You know, character's name, because I looked it up, is Fogle. And when you hear Fogle, you know it's right. So it's Christopher Mintz. Is it Plasse P L A S,

[Peter]

S E. Sure, I'll go with.

[Don]

Or Plass.

[Rosenberg]

Plass.

[Don]

Christopher Plass. He's a Christopher Mintz Plass.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, Mintz slash. Plus he's. Is he from Canada? I'm trying to see where he's from. But anyway, that's what. So he's born in la, so that's a doozy. But that's very great. He's known as McLovin and that when you go to IMDb, that's not the character's name.

[Peter]

It's great.

[Rosenberg]

It is such a funny movie.

[Don]

It's. It's their dialogue throughout. The entire thing is. It's, it's just, it's on fire.

[Caller]

It's.

[Don]

It's an incredible, incredible.

[Peter]

It feels like an ad libbed movie.

[Rosenberg]

What's going on with Jonah Hill? He's now like a stick figure now.

[Don]

Yeah, he got it together.

[Peter]

He was tired of being like the chubby guy from that movie and the chubby guy from this movie. Like that's. He's Just tired of being that guy.

[Don]

Yeah. I mean, he went through a lot of stuff. He did that. He did that show I don't have ever watched. He did that, like, doc about being in therapy. Like, him and his therapist. He did, like, a real documentary about his therapy.

[Caller]

I just.

[Don]

He had a lot of. He had a lot of stuff.

[Rosenberg]

He was great. He lost.

[Don]

He lost his brother tragically.

[Rosenberg]

About.

[Don]

His brother was a really big music industry manager, and he lost his brother tragically. And I. I think even prior to that, he was just a. I think he just struggled with a lot of stuff. I think celebrity was weird for him. He didn't come off as a nice guy. He came off as, like, a very difficult.

[Rosenberg]

Big problem with, I think, was his dad an agent. Like, he. He one time talked about how he was always around celebrities where he just never felt comfortable around, like, normal people because he was always around celebrities between, I guess, his brother and his dad. Whatever, his dad. And people took that like, oh, well, you're above us now. And so he struggled a lot. Moneyball. He was very good.

[Peter]

Very good.

[Rosenberg]

And then this is the End is one of my favorite movies. I just love the Wolf of Wall Street.

[Caller]

The Jump street movies are hilarious. If you guys haven't seen.

[Don]

He's so good in Wolf of Wall Street. You know, he. You know, I don't know Joan Hill at all, but he's a really big hip hop fan.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Don]

Which kind of well documented. And at some point several years ago, I looked and noticed he followed me on Instagram and he didn't follow. You know, this wasn't.

[Rosenberg]

Who's your.

[Don]

Who's your Twitter. Who's the Twitter person? Mike, Madonna or Taye Diggs? He doesn't follow 200,000 people.

[Caller]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Taye Diggs. And who's the other one that we referenced?

[Peter]

There's somebody that draws iced tea. No, there's somebody that follows Everybody.

[Don]

Cena follows 500. Who's the one that

[Rosenberg]

was in the witch show?

[Don]

The witch show?

[Peter]

I know who you're.

[Rosenberg]

The teenage witch.

[Peter]

Yeah.

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[Don]

Oh, yeah.

[Peter]

She follows Every.

[Rosenberg]

Follows like 300 million, by the way.

[Don]

Did you just stumble on one? Yeah, the teenage witch. You can't remember her name?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Caller]

That's a good one.

[Don]

That's a pretty good.

[Rosenberg]

Really? Five is just not enough.

[Don]

But anyways, I noticed that he followed me, and he didn't follow many people. I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. And by the time I thought, let me reach out to him.

[Peter]

Melissa Joan Hart.

[Don]

Melissa Joan Hart. He killed his Instagram account gone.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. He's like, look. Look what I'm following.

[Don]

My life was completely falling apart. But then, you know, oddly, he did that movie on on Netflix a few years ago that was like hip hop adjacent. And there was a character who was like a white guy dj, and many people reached out to me and thought the character was based on me.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, wow.

[Don]

Yeah. And then when I saw the movie, I was deeply offended by the character. I was like, that's what you think my brand is? It was hurtful.

[Rosenberg]

We got to get him on Jonah Hill. There might be something to this.

[Don]

You know what? Let's work on it.

[Rosenberg]

Let's get all the people we've brought up on that are still with us and just get their thoughts.

[Don]

You want to get Fogel on? Yeah, that'd be great.

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[Rosenberg]

All right, last call, crew. Let's get him in before he in. And at 6, Brian in Milburn. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Brian?

[Caller]

How you doing? I wanted to say I have one for y'. All. I never heard nobody mention Colombo. Peter Falk.

[Rosenberg]

That's. I. I thought about that one. That's not bad. I mean, listen, he's been in things, but he's really. If people saw him and he's no longer with us, he would definitely. People would definitely shout out Colombo. But I think people know Peter Falk. But I think it's a good one, right?

[Don]

That's a great call, Brian. I'm sorry, most people know Colombo, not Peter Falk.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, that's all I know him from.

[Caller]

What about Matlock?

[Don]

You know what I got to tell you, he's killing it, though. That's pretty good. Hold on, Matlock. But hang up on him. It was too much noise. Take it. But thank you, Brian. Matlock.

[Caller]

Yeah.

Because.

[Rosenberg]

But Mayberry are like, he was established before he became. From what, though? From a lot of things. Yeah, well, the Mayberry.

[Don]

Oh, he was. He was in. He was in Andy Griffith.

[Rosenberg]

Andy Griffith, Yeah. That's what he's known for. That's the better one than Matlock, by the way.

[Don]

But it's funny, but I think of him as Matlock from a name of the character standpoint. Even though.

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[Don]

He's the dad from.

[Rosenberg]

I guess it depends on. Like I said, if you're, if you're older than me, you're gonna think of.

[Don]

He's the father.

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[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

With little Ron Howard.

[Don]

With little Ron Howard.

[Peter]

Mayberry.

[Don]

But Matlock was a thing.

[Rosenberg]

It was Buck Showalter's favorite show. That's not Madlock. The other one.

[Don]

Oh, really?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Don]

Andy Griffin.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Don]

Is there a joke that I'm not missing?

[Rosenberg]

No, I, I, he was, he was in studio, and we were asking him what his fate, and he said that was his favorite show.

[Don]

That's Fairy Tale.

[Rosenberg]

And I'm like. Then he asked me what my favorite show was, and I said, Seinfeld. He's like, he looked at me like I was trolling because he was in Seinfeld, remember?

[Peter]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

He made that cameo in Seinfeld.

[Don]

Yeah, but why would he be trolling? It's one of the biggest shows of all time.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, but if you know Andy Griffith is your favorite show, you're not watching tv.

[Don]

By the way, isn't that perfect? You were able to be in Seinfeld, but, like, your TV interest is Andy Griffith. So it was like. It was just a thing.

[Peter]

Nothing to you.

[Don]

All that happened was all the. It was the Yankees said, hey, we Yankees PR Said, we have a thing you have to do today.

[Rosenberg]

Now, for him, it might have just been a charity event.

[Don]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Just sit here. We're playing. We're playing the Angels tonight, so just swing by and just do this for five minutes. Cool.

[Don]

Thanks. No problem.

[Peter]

So you have Garrett Cole tonight. I'm curious if you guys wonder like, like, this is a important series with the Rays, right?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

It's all right.

[Peter]

And now you're 1 1.

[Rosenberg]

You're 2 left and you're more. And you're not have a starter tomorrow.

[Peter]

Tomorrow they might go with an opener. They are going with an opener.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, that's right. They, they just Announced it a little while ago. They're going with, how do we feel about this? That you better win tonight, Right?

[Peter]

You think that you really wanted to get three out of four? You didn't want to just take, you didn't want to split.

[Rosenberg]

Excuse is going to be, oh, don't come.

[Peter]

No, come on, Don. Aaron Judge said it himself. Don't yell how important it is. Every game matters. Those were his words, not mine.

[Rosenberg]

Every game matters, but you know you're going to get.

[Peter]

And they lost the division last year around this time as well. And you're going to punt a game.

[Rosenberg]

Well, they can because Rodon's not ready yet. So that's what they're gonna say is we had to go in an opener. Rodan's not ready yet. You know, Cole is just trying to get back from Tommy. Johnny still trying to find it. You know, we got guys going through it right now, but it's a sickness. We're gonna be okay. You don't you think you're gonna hear Panic tomorrow from Aaron Boone if they lose tonight?

[Peter]

I mean, I don't make excuses, and they bring up a great point.

[Caller]

They'll just call up the kid again. You want him again?

[Peter]

Rodriguez?

[Rosenberg]

Well, that was, that was the only other option.

[Don Hahn]

He gets.

[Peter]

Absolutely. Every time he throws the ball, it just goes the other way. A long way.

[Don]

Is that not what you want?

[Peter]

No, you don't want that.

[Rosenberg]

Well, if it goes foul, it's all right.

[Peter]

Yeah, but you're also putting a lot

[Caller]

of pressure on Cole to give you a couple innings tonight. If you're doing a bullpen game, well,

[Rosenberg]

that's it, you know, don't go chasing Cole after five and a third. That's going to be a bit of a problem.

[Caller]

A lot of yarborough tomorrow. Everybody get ready.

[Rosenberg]

Steve in Staten island. You're on ESPN New York. What's up, Steve?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. I was just calling about the list, you guys. I'm surprised, Don. Especially you, because it's a little bit older. Gilligan from Gilligan's Island.

[Don]

I don't hate it.

[Rosenberg]

No, I, I, I don't hate that either. That's very good. What was his name again?

[Caller]

I mean, do you guys, do you guys know his real name? Yeah.

[Peter]

Come on, come on, come on.

[Rosenberg]

I'll know when I get, I'll know when I. Oh, boy, it's, it's such a great city.

[Peter]

Give me his first name.

[Rosenberg]

I disconnect. It's gonna bother me. I know it's gonna bother me.

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[Rosenberg]

But he's it's. It's Gilligan's island, right?

[Peter]

I mean, no, he's Gilligan. He didn't do anything else.

[Rosenberg]

No, he was, he was in a show when it I. And I only know the show because it was on Nick. At night.

[Peter]

Ah, yeah, I know the one.

[Rosenberg]

The many love of Dobie Gillis. Yes, the many loves of Dobie Gillis. He was there and he was like a beatnik. Peter, he had like a little goat. Denver.

[Peter]

He had a pusick.

[Don]

Well, by the way, by the way, hell of a job because I always saw it went Bob Denver like John Denver. Good for you.

[Peter]

No relation.

[Don]

No relation.

[Rosenberg]

Mets baseball next.

[Don Hahn]

Thanks for listening to the Don Hahn and Rosenberg podcast.

[Don]

I don't want to know how the

[Peter]

spot sausage is made, man. I just want to know. It's good.

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